If one were to start a side game and spend no more than $100 USD total (vs MSRP), what would you get?

The $100 USD has to cover (at full MSRP):
- rulebook
- minis for two players
- any required accessories (e.g. counters)

At this price point, we're talking about a very small skirmish / starter battle, but what would you get?

just to eb a smart ****, Black reach or my favourite macragge

I really liked Mordhiem,and IIRC the starter box cost about $60 and had everything you needed to start playing.
Of course that was many moons ago and honestly I don't even know if it's still available.

You know, it doesn't have to be GW...

JohnHwangDD wrote:You know, it doesn't have to be GW...

Even between GW and the competition...I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that fits the bill.

Maybe AT-43: Operation Damocles.

Or something like Incursion, but really...not much comes to mind.

BFG but don't you already play that?

Firestorm Armada makes your cut if you're only buying your own fleet. Their starter fleets run abut 60USD each and rules are about 25. Now if you have to buy two starter fleets, that's out of your range.


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Oh, and Arcane Legions or D&D minis, of course, if you're REALLY desperate.

Infinity. Rulebook might be 30$, but anyway the rules section of the book is downloadable from the website in a pdf file. Thats 0$ in rules.

3 bucks for some D20 dice if you don't have.

About 30$ each starter = 60$

And the other 37$... maybe some blisters to make the armies a little bigger. Or buy material for scenery.

http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity_ENG/

FITZZ wrote: I really liked Mordhiem,and IIRC the starter box cost about $60 and had everything you needed to start playing.
Of course that was many moons ago and honestly I don't even know if it's still available.

Great game!

At-43 is great(I think it is around $90)

Cheers

All things Zombie

Book = $20 ish
Survivor models = Whatever your willing to spend
Zombie Models = $10-$15 Bag-O-Zombies (100 models)

Hell, you even have money left over for Beer and Munchies.

If you can still find it, Space Hulk. Then AOBR or the WHFB equivalent depending on which you fancy.

Malifaux is easily under $100 and getting great initial reviews. Sadly, I don't get to delve in until Christmas (so sayeth my wife).

As no one else has mentioned it . . . if you can find it at your FLGS or ebay, a copy of the CBT Introductory Box Set and Total Warfare in hard cover runs to ~$75. If you cannot find the intro box, or dislike the plastic starter 'Mechs, $100 can still get you Total Warfare and enough metal minis to get both players started.

Brik Wars... using Lego minifigs.

rules are free... www.brikwars.com

-P

You can get Incursion for $50, and spend the other $50 on 4 blister packs of Nazi zombies, US power armor, or what have you. They have a deal right now where you can get the rules and all the models for $165, but that's a bit over the spending limit of this thread I'm afraid.
http://www.incursiongame.com/products/package-2#feature

I'm pretty sure anima tactics comes in at under $100 but I can't comment about the gameplay.

Alpharius Walks wrote:As no one else has mentioned it . . . if you can find it at your FLGS or ebay, a copy of the CBT Introductory Box Set and Total Warfare in hard cover runs to ~$75. If you cannot find the intro box, or dislike the plastic starter 'Mechs, $100 can still get you Total Warfare and enough metal minis to get both players started.

DING DING DING!

Plus, you don't even have to buy Total Warfare if you don't want to. Plenty of fun to be had with Quick-Start rules only. 24 'Mechs (albeit low quality), rules, and a pretty sizable universe info book for $40. Hard to beat that.

porkuslime wrote:Brik Wars... using Lego minifigs.

rules are free... www.brikwars.com

-P

This, and if you don't already play it, SW Miniatures

@Vlad: How do you find the SW minis? I have a few of them around but never got around to them. I love what WotC has done with Saga Ed. and wonder if the minis game is as well thought out.

Battletech, if they are still selling it. The box set with the 30 mechs.

Unsurprisingly, a good Halo Actionclix game requires only 5-8 packs, and no need for Rulebooks!

Sad thing is, however, that they are random, but I find the game to be fast and fun.

Manchu wrote:@Vlad: How do you find the SW minis? I have a few of them around but never got around to them. I love what WotC has done with Saga Ed. and wonder if the minis game is as well thought out.

Last I remember there was a big hublah over this incredibly powerful mini but other than that, the game was incredibly well balanced and thought out with a very nice ruleset that didn't really have any ambiguities.

I haven't played in forever though, but when I did it was a lot of fun. I recommend playing a game or two!

:edit: HaloClix was actually pretty fun too, and now I bet that it is super cheap.

Isn't DND a minis game these days? There you go.

@malfred: Already suggested it. To follow up, it's getting somewhat easier to pick what you want with the revealed big monster packs they're doing nowadays. Still, ugly minis.
@vlad: Very cool. I have enough to play a little skirmish I think. Just need to find a willing opponent. ::calls to weary fiancee:: "Hey, honey, what are you up to . . ."

Chaos in the Old World, Martians, Zombies, War of the Ring (can't recommend this one enough), Space Hulk.

Hmm... Interesting range of suggestions.

I have Mordheim & BFG, and think both of those are excellent. OTOH, DnD minis, Star Wars minis, and Clix-related stuff has no interest for me. I've looked at AT-43, but it didn't quite catch my fancy.

So far, I like Infinity and Malifaux as small games with nice minis. For not a lot of cash, either of these could good little side games to play. They remind me of Warmachine way back when it was first released many, many moons ago.

If it were your $100, what would you guys be buying?

Fleshing out my Sisters army maybe although I'm kind of at an impasse for direction there. I'm also tempted by that new Tyranids battleforce but that would just be giving into the delirium that accompanies new codex fever. I'd probably spend $35 of it on the Radical's Handbook for DH (via Amazon) and save the rest to buy more presents for the family. Edit: I certainly would not buy any of that Inifinity or Malifaux stuff.

I'm thinking a game with lots of mini-games that is fun to play with other people. Thanks.



Enhanced Kre Alkalyn

Operation Damocoles : http://www.miniaturemarket.com/inc/sdetail/57112 $60 dolla
And for $52 dolla more you can choose 1 of these:

Manchu wrote:@malfred: Already suggested it. To follow up, it's getting somewhat easier to pick what you want with the revealed big monster packs they're doing nowadays. Still, ugly minis.
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Well I didn't really mean the miniatures game. I meant that the RPG is played out very
tactically these days.

Oh yes, it's much more a board game than in AD&D but not much more if any than 3.5 was.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Hmm... Interesting range of suggestions.

I have Mordheim & BFG, and think both of those are excellent. OTOH, DnD minis, Star Wars minis, and Clix-related stuff has no interest for me. I've looked at AT-43, but it didn't quite catch my fancy.

So far, I like Infinity and Malifaux as small games with nice minis. For not a lot of cash, either of these could good little side games to play. They remind me of Warmachine way back when it was first released many, many moons ago.

If it were your $100, what would you guys be buying?

If it were MY $100?

I'd be starting Infinity, just like I currently am

Cool backstory, cool armies, cool models. It looks like it'll be terrain heavy and focused mostly in that regards...but so what? Terrain's easy.

Not sure if this fits, but someone put DnD so this can't be way off base.

BUT for $34.97 from the WarStore





You can get it and its expansion, Growing Hunger ($34.99 on Amazon), for under $100

Used to be my favorite game till my group played it too many times.

Here's the Board Game Geek link

Everyone should check it out, I guarantee it'll get on the table a lot

Since there have been several boardgame suggestions and even D&D qua RPG, I just want to clarify: are we only talking miniatures games or any type of game that might involve miniatures? Because if this is open to board games, that's a whole other can or worms.

Notionally, I was thinking to limit to minis games, rather than board games.

If I had wanted board games, I'd be at BGG or another BG site.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Notionally, I was thinking to limit to minis games, rather than board games.

If I had wanted board games, I'd be at BGG or another BG site.

Just go with AT-43 . You can use them for IG veteran if you get bored.

I strongly recommend following your gut on AT-43. I pushed my reservations aside and ended up very disappointed. That was when it first came out (no Red Blok at that time, much less corporate zombies) but every time I see Karmans I know I'm not missing anything.

Any 10mm historical (Warmaster Ancients, Blitzkrieg Commander for example) should come in less than that. Or DBA will easily.

Naval historicals can be cheap too, especially Trafalgar as your fleet won't stretch much over 10 vessels.

At this stage, since I have all my GW and PP stuff, I'd have a look at Warcanto's stuff or get into a historical, probably using the plastics from wargames factory or warlord.

Sticking with scifi? AT-43 and Infinity are my suggestions as well.

If you're open for other genres...

Gutshot!
Arcane Legions
Malifaux
Warlord

There are quite a bit of mini games out there that can be played for around $100 or less.

Monsterpocalypse. PP is even offering a huge 2-player starter deal right now for $50+shipping that would get you everything you need for casual play.

Flames of War Open Fire! plus a blister of infantry for each side, gives you enough for basic games and whatnot.

Aeronautica Imperialis can also be played for under $100,-- or whatever, just get the main book, three or four packs of fighters and you can play basic games.

Check this thread which has similar recommendations.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/269410.page

lord_blackfang wrote:Monsterpocalypse. PP is even offering a huge 2-player starter deal right now for $50+shipping that would get you everything you need for casual play.

Excellent game, looks very simple but is surprisingly complex. Really appeals to the Godzilla fan in me

Pig Tickler, a fun little game. Matakishi has some extra rules on his site which really improve it.

Best rule book for skirmish gaming ever is 5 usd...

Songs of Blades and heroes ( they have scifi themed stuff also)

Miniatures... heres the kicker you can use what you want from who you want... you can even pick scales 28mm or 15mm.

You will need to make 3 measuring sticks and some dices... thats about it.

The 95usd you saved you can send them this way.

Uncharted seas would run you less than $100 for two navies and the rules...

Tacobake wrote:Battletech, if they are still selling it. The box set with the 30 mechs.

I think the current box set is being phased out for the 25th Aniiversary version due out in the 1st Q 2010. It will include 2 more higher quality minis in it.

Although no Battletech box has had 30 minis in it. The current version has 24, the old 3rd Edition had 14 (I think), and CityTech had 16.

LunaHound wrote:Just go with AT-43 . You can use them for IG veteran if you get bored.

I already have 5k+ pts of IG, with good number of IG models. I don't need more IG that don't match my existing IG.
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Manchu wrote:every time I see Karmans I know I'm not missing anything.

Yeah, the space gorillas are the number one push-aways of AT-43 for me.
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torgoch wrote:Any 10mm historical (Warmaster Ancients, Blitzkrieg Commander for example) should come in less than that. Or DBA will easily.

Naval historicals can be cheap too, especially Trafalgar as your fleet won't stretch much over 10 vessels.

Thanks for the suggestions outside the SF/fantasy arene, tho I think I'm going to limit my historicals to FoW.
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Tunnel Rat wrote:If you're open for other genres...

Gutshot!
Arcane Legions
Malifaux
Warlord

There are quite a bit of mini games out there that can be played for around $100 or less.

Any comments on your favorites above? What you liked / didn't like?
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BrookM wrote:Flames of War Open Fire! plus a blister of infantry for each side, gives you enough for basic games and whatnot.

Aeronautica Imperialis can also be played for under $100,-- or whatever, just get the main book, three or four packs of fighters and you can play basic games.

I have Flames, but I suppose I could add a FoW starter box to the pile...

AI doesnt seem as rich as some of the other suggestions (I'm specificially thinking of Infinity and Malifaux), Also, I'm not sure how good it is as a pseudo-historical dogfighting game. Can you comment?

Where do you find Hell Dorado? I've looked at the Warstore, Miniature Market and various other online stores and I can't find it.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Tunnel Rat wrote:If you're open for other genres...

Gutshot!
Arcane Legions
Malifaux
Warlord

There are quite a bit of mini games out there that can be played for around $100 or less.

Any comments on your favorites above? What you liked / didn't like?

Gutshot! (Hawleg Productions)
PROS: It's a western theme- a fun departure from sci-fi and fantasy. Quick and easy rules you can either have 2 players play 2 small groups of minis or have 10 players play 1 mini each (which is a blast!).
CONS: It's a western theme so not many people will like the genre. It's similar to Infinity that it NEEDS terrain.

Arcane Legions (Wells Expeditions)
PROS: IMO has some really great game mechanics, some of which I wish the other games I play had(especially Warhammer fantasy). If you are a Warhammer player, you should at least try it. A 2-player starter set will only run you $35.
CONS: There are 3 big ones: 1) The minis aren't that great. Quality is definitely not up to par with the rest of the pack. 2) There are only 3 factions. 3) The fact it is labeled as a collectible game hurts it. People quickly push it away (like myself at first) as soon as you see/hear 'collectible'. But, if buy the starter set and a bundle set (brick of 8 boosters; do not buy individual boosters) you are guaranteed an entire army set.

Malifaux (Wyrd)
PROS: Instead of using dice, it has a unique gameplay with fate cards. Small faction boxes = happy wallet <which, in turn, could lead to> small faction boxes = multiple faction purchases. Steampuck type theme.
CONS: The fate cards is quite different and might throw people off especially if they are set in their dice ways. People might not like the steampunk theme and the stylized minis.

Warlord (Reaper)
PROS: Fairly easy skirmish rules and fun, quick games. If you live in the U.S. the minis are really inexpensive not to mention metal.
CONS: The minis are a mixed bag due to dealing with different sculptors although since the recent 2nd edition release, their minis have been improving for the most part. I have a lupine faction and mainly consists of Rackham's Wolfen mini.

Gutshot!, Arcane Legions, and Malifaux were reviewed on the D6 Generation podcast. Pretty helpful and insightful review.

Thanks for the capsule reviews.

I guess I'll hunt down the podcasts for more info.

I used Heroscape and it worked for me on my GF!! Yes Yes its a "Boardgame" but its not like Last Night on Earth which is also a hit with her by the by

I had Heroscape, and it wasn't bad, but the problem for me was that Heroscape was too much wanting to be like 40k / Nec / Mord / SBG / WM, which I already have plenty of.

As far as boardgames go, I like Battlelore very much and might suggest that to you guys.

Secrets of the Third Reich.

Incursion.

Superfigs.

Pulp City.

Spinespur.

Blue Moon has a few neat games in the Chaos in Carpathea, Chronos, and London themes, as well as some incident based horror games. NOW they has a few good loads of zombies, as well.

If you like the superhero genre for skirmish, I would second the suggestion for SuperSystem (Superfigs are the models). For 10.95 USD, you can own the pdf of the rules, the official Superfigs line of figs have been put into a freebie pdf (so you don't have to make up your heroes/villains if you don't want to), and you still have 85+ dollars to buy your team(s) of Supers. Or you can use whatever you have around already, saving you even more!

I use a mix of figures from over a dozen lines, and we generally build our teams around 8 models, so you'd have plenty of cash to purchase what you wanted...

Other than that, I'm currently painting up my second Malifaux crew.

-Vilegrimm

Grot, I wouldn't actually put Secrets of the Third Reich in the list of "under $100 USD".

You can get 'starter sets' that contain models for specific scenarios fairly cheap from West Wind(Brainwurst! and Sniper! are favorites, personally) but you'll still end up paying a decent amount for an actual army for both sides.

I think Spinespur has a fluff accessibility problem.

Though I do like some of their minis...

Warmachine: You can get 2 battlegroups for 49.99 each, which include a warcaster and warjacks. Quick start rules are included.
Pros: Awesome game system. Established player base. Compatible with Hordes
Cons: Expanding from the battlegroup gets expensive

Hordes: You can get 2 warpacks for 49.99 each, which include a warlock and warbeasts. Quick start rules are included.
Pros: Awesome game system. Established player base. Compatible with Warmachine
Cons: Expanding from the battlegroup gets expensive

Others I know of are already mentioned above

Mattlov wrote:

Tacobake wrote:Battletech, if they are still selling it. The box set with the 30 mechs.

I think the current box set is being phased out for the 25th Aniiversary version due out in the 1st Q 2010. It will include 2 more higher quality minis in it.

Although no Battletech box has had 30 minis in it. The current version has 24, the old 3rd Edition had 14 (I think), and CityTech had 16.

I stand corrected.

How about Inquisitor?

How about the GRIND...Warjacks playing Bloodbowl for $69.99. Although it is a type of board game, it can be an entry into the Warmachine World...

JohnHwangDD wrote:
If it were your $100, what would you guys be buying?

Warmachine. Rules are currently available for free as pdf. Models come with stat cards. Buy $50 each of two factions your off...

I'd be taking a look at the Polemos Napoleonics, produced by Baccus 6mm - both because they're a local firm, and because I would, at some stage, like to get into historicals to some degree.

For ~£73 (outside of the EU), you get the following:

* 1 x Polemos Napoleonic Ruleset (Second edition).
* 1 x Polemos British Army Starter Pack.
* 1 x Polemos French Army Starter Pack.
* 2 Sets of pre-cut bases.
* 1 x British flag sheet
* 1 x French flag sheet
* 1 x Painting guide for British and French armies
* 2 x Farm buildings and plinths.
* 1 x Large House and Plinth

If we assume 1806-1812, the army starter packs seem to include:

British
# 10 Units of Foot, each of 24 figures
# 6 Units of Heavy Cavalry, each of 9 figures
# 3 Units of Light Dragoons, each of 9 figures
# 3 Units of Hussars, each of 9 figures
# 4 Artillery pieces
# 3 Command Bases

French
# 10 Units of Foot, each of 24 figures
# 4 Units of Cuirassiers, each of 9 figures
# 4 Units of Dragoons, each of 9 figures
# 2 Unitss of Hussars, each of 9 figures
# 2 Units of Chasseurs, each of 9 figures
# 4 Artillery pieces
# 3 Command strips

Not bad, to my mind.

BLOODBOWL


Bloodbowl IS a complete game. (not a starter set from a bigger game)
Bloodbowl have very strong player base.
Bloodbowl is probably the funniest, if not the greatest wargame ever.

Nobody else plays that game.

On the topic of Warlord, $100 dollars can set you up with the rules (which contains army rosters for all of the major factions) as well as two small forces. The rules are twenty dollars, so that would leave you with forty dollars per army. That's enough to get a leader, four or five grunts, and a small monster. I don't know if I'd reccomend starting with $100 though; you could do it, but starting with say $150 would work better. On the pluss side, the online community (found on Reaper's website) is fairly strong, and Reaper has a free army builder on their site.

fsm wrote:.

Good game right there!!!

Best game that uses miniatures for under $100?

Since it doesnt specifically say a wargame, I have a few good one board game suggestions:

Cave Troll $20-$30 depending on where you shop

Claustrophobia $40-$65 (keep an eye on this Space Hulk in fantasy land game, I think its going to be a fad, if not be really hot for a long time)

*ahem*....Space Hulk is technically under $100 and its..okay I guess.

War of the Ring about $50ish

Anima Tactics price varies depending on how much you buy (like all wargames) but you can get two very nice factions for under way below $100. Plus, its also a wargame. Very underrated at that.

Dysartes wrote:I'd be taking a look at the Polemos Napoleonics, produced by Baccus 6mm - both because they're a local firm, and because I would, at some stage, like to get into historicals to some degree.

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Here are pics of some of my Baccus 6mm Russian army.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-299-1139_6mm%20Russian%20Napoleonic.html

These are based up for the Marechal de l'Empire rules which are for big battles, the bases are 60mm square. The other rules are the General de Division which use a base 60mm wide by 30mm deep. Both sets of rules are in the same book. You can play Marechal with General bases by just putting two bases into a single unit.

If you want to get into games under $100, play General. If you like it you can move up to big games with Marechal later.

http://www.baccus6mm.com/

M_Stress wrote:BLOODBOWL


Bloodbowl IS a complete game. (not a starter set from a bigger game)
Bloodbowl have very strong player base.
Bloodbowl is probably the funniest, if not the greatest wargame ever.

I second Blood Bowl. The rulebook is free and online.

jp400 wrote:All things Zombie

Book = $20 ish
Survivor models = Whatever your willing to spend
Zombie Models = $10-$15 Bag-O-Zombies (100 models)

Hell, you even have money left over for Beer and Munchies.

My thoughts exactly. Any Two Hour Wargames ruleset easily meets this. I especially recommend Chain Reaction. Free rules and you can use existing miniatures if you want! Total price? $0

Infinity is another good suggestion. But get lots of terrain!

AT-43 is a solid gamey game, but seems to be dying a slow death (much like Rackham in general, unfortunately).

The Sword and the Flame with miniatures from Old Glory.

StarGrunt2 (15mm - 25 mm sci-fi combat - primarily infantry instead of vehicle heavy), Dirtside 2 (micro armor sci-fi) and Full Thrust (spaceship combat) are all free downloads of great games. I printed out Dirtside 2 for around $7 with a coil binding and plastic covers at the local print shop.

That leaves you $90 for minis. If you go 15mm, you can easily field nice sized forces. Even in 25-32mm figures, you could buy a couple of decent sized forces. If you want micro armor (for DS2, for example), you can get a platoon of tanks/APCs for around $10/platoon. Spaceships are very plentiful and fleets are reasonably priced from various companies, too.

http://www.groundzerogames.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=9&id=29&Itemid=50

ya im gunna second some of the things mentioned with my best (as 'best' as an opinion of mine can be lol) suggestions for you...
not granted i havent played any of these too extensively, but ive looked into them all myself and heard alot from people who have...

1: AT-43 - as an alternative game, you dont gotta spend days painting to have a fun, good looking game...
2: Monsterpocalypse - awesome and fun and monsters blowing gak up... what else do you need...?
3: Malifaux - a change from your standard mini gaming with nice models and relatively low model count needed for good games...

privateer4hire wrote:StarGrunt2 (15mm - 25 mm sci-fi combat - primarily infantry instead of vehicle heavy), Dirtside 2 (micro armor sci-fi) and Full Thrust (spaceship combat) are all free downloads of great games. I printed out Dirtside 2 for around $7 with a coil binding and plastic covers at the local print shop.

That leaves you $90 for minis. If you go 15mm, you can easily field nice sized forces. Even in 25-32mm figures, you could buy a couple of decent sized forces. If you want micro armor (for DS2, for example), you can get a platoon of tanks/APCs for around $10/platoon. Spaceships are very plentiful and fleets are reasonably priced from various companies, too.

http://www.groundzerogames.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=9&id=29&Itemid=50

Second the recommendation for various GZG games. You can buy the rules used for cheap, or print for free, and the "official" figures are cheap. Better, they are all "generic" in the sense that 90% of what you can buy from what ever company can be made to fit the rules, so with a little work you can have your IG fight Copplestone Neo-Soviets, or epic tanks fight Brigade Miniatures tanks. Cherry picking your favorite miniature lines to make your forces is a nice feeling after being in the "GW Hobby".

Plankwalker wrote:Excellent game, looks very simple but is surprisingly complex. Really appeals to the Ghidorah fan in me

Fix'd



Ghidorah

Blast! You win this round Ghidorah...

+1 on Malifaux and Warlord. And Warmachine.

Not sure if anyone mentioned Legends of the Old West (though I did see Gutshot!). Between rules and figs you still come under $100.

The various Rattrap games (Gloire! .45 Adventure, Fantastic Worlds, etc.)--rules themselves are inexpensive and then you just need to find the figs themselves (and there's a lot of nice, cheap AND good options out there for these games).

Pretty much any of the decent skirmish games out there. And there are plenty of free rules out there (No Quarter, No Limits, Chain Reaction) that are excellent and allow you to use figs you already have. So there.

+1 All Things Zombie.

If you stick to skirmish scale games -- which only need 5-20 figures per side -- it will never cost too much.

The side benefit of spending less on figures is spending less time on painting -- which can change into more time on building nice terrain pieces.

Descent: Journeys in the Dark, plus an expansion or two.
Lots of miniatures, lots of fun.

I also strongly second getting Battletech though Battletech is an outdated games stystem , its great if you are already into it, via old Battletech or any version of Mechwarrior. If you are completely new to the franchise look elsewhere, nostalgia rather than gameplay bulks out the appeal.

I'm suprised nobody's actually mentioned necromunda, especially since with a little bit of light conversion work, you can make a gang out of IG plastics pretty easy, and for much cheaper than the metal models they use....

That, and the rulebook is free through GW's specialist Games website.

Arcane Legions: $35.99 over 100 minis
Han infantry pack $14.99 over 40 minis
Greek Infantry pack $14.99 over 40 minis
Han booster pack 5-11 minis $11.99
Greek booster pack 5-11 minis $11.99

Well under 100 bucks with tons of minis and three armies so have at you!!

Anima Tactics. It's an amazing game and the starters don't suck by any means. You can download all the rules for free, and at $10 to $12 a model with 6 models being a tournament army, it's a great value too. There are some big minis that are up to $30 but are by no means necessary to play, and you can stay competitive easily without touching them. I recommend getting 3 models a side to start with. PM with any questions!

The MechWarrior Clix game. The rules are free and $100 will easily buy you two decent sized armies on ebay.

kadun wrote:The MechWarrior Clix game. The rules are free and $100 will easily buy you two decent sized armies on ebay.

Any Clix games are cheap because Wizkids is no longer in business as of October 2008 (I think)...other companies are trying to buy out the rights to their products but I guess Mr. Weisman is just too greedy to let go...

Warlord Imp wrote:

kadun wrote:The MechWarrior Clix game. The rules are free and $100 will easily buy you two decent sized armies on ebay.

Any Clix games are cheap because Wizkids is no longer in business as of October 2008 (I think)...other companies are trying to buy out the rights to their products but I guess Mr. Weisman is just too greedy to let go...

I thought I heard something on the D6G recently that some of the Clix game lines are on their way back into active support?

Kitchen table.
1x ping pong ball, rec pack of 6 incase of crushing lost, etc.
6x Red Solo plastic Cups. ONce you advance in skill you may need the additional models. * more Red Solo cups

Beer to suit.

Rules online.

http://www.beerpong.com/beerpong_rules.htm

Did anyone mention Full Thrust? I forget the name of the company, but you can get all their books for free in pdf now.

Full Thrust is the Space version of space ships, they also have versions for tanks, intintry like 40K and a few others.

You make your on ships if you wanted, and I find it very fun. Just google Full Thrust and you should find thier home site.

Again, it's free now, so you can't go wrong. You can buy thier mini's or use others.

Balance wrote:I thought I heard something on the D6G recently that some of the Clix game lines are on their way back into active support?

Negotiations are in limbo. D6G is pushing for the release of the Heroclix lines. Wizkids is non-responsive. They did release the Thor's Chariot model but no futher releases as yet. I heard there were 3 offers as soon as Wizkids stopped production in 2008. BTW, I used to compete in the world championships for 2 straight years before they killed Mageknight.

Back on topic, I like the Malifaux and Warmachine BUT I do not like metal models. I prefer plastics. I know Warmachine is getting into plastics but not enough for me to jump on the WM bandwagon. I am serioursly looking at Mantic Games BUT they only have the Undead (to be released) and Elves released. Also, has anyone played the game? Is it something that will grow?

@Warlord Imp: If your dislike of metal models started with the GW metals like myself, then I'd be happy to mention that most other game companies have MUCH better metals.

And I'd also say Malifaux, I think it's the perfect game for this. It's also awesome in every way. A small warning though, some masters require a steep learning curve, while others are very straight forward, don't mistake it for some being over powered and under powered.

LunaHound wrote:Operation Damocoles : http://www.miniaturemarket.com/inc/sdetail/57112 $60 dolla
And for $52 dolla more you can choose 1 of these:

gha cool, im really moe intrested in the terrain and the APV's
but if its a good system id play it for that cheep. best of all it comes ready to play and no painting right????

more info please....

Yep it comes with what you see in the picture.
Everything other than the floor / table its sitting on.

Zatsuku wrote:@Warlord Imp: If your dislike of metal models started with the GW metals like myself, then I'd be happy to mention that most other game companies have MUCH better metals.

And I'd also say Malifaux, I think it's the perfect game for this. It's also awesome in every way. A small warning though, some masters require a steep learning curve, while others are very straight forward, don't mistake it for some being over powered and under powered.

My main issue is the weight...but with the burning need to paint, I just may get into the Malifaux world...I'm actually liking the Neverborns...