Following on from the Dakka 2010 thread in the discussion forum and the success of Platinum Devil, a 40k tournament has now been booked for the weekend 21st and 22nd August at Warhammer World, Nottingham!

We are looking at 4 games of 1000pts to be played on the saturday, with the sunday being left blank for free play that you can arrange yourselves on the saturday.

If you want to sign up, please confirm in this thread or by PM. Please note that all those expressing an interest must confirm their attendance ASAP to allow confirmation of the booking details. When you confirm please state which army you intend to use (the mission briefings will be tailored accordingly and don't worry, I'm not playing so I'm not gaining an unfair advantage!).

You will need the following:

Rulebook, Relevant Codex, FAQ's (we will be using GW official and INAT).
Army (obviously ) with 2x copies of your army list.
Mission Pack - Available below. MAKE SURE you print out the intro and your army's pack and bring it with you!!! If your army does not have a mission pack let me know and I will upload one for you.

Any questions please let me know. This thread will be updated nearer the time with more details as we get them.

Many thanks to ArbitorIan for his help with the arrangements, hope to see you there!

C_C


Players - there are 24 spaces available. Currently 19 places are full and all of those are confirmed. If you wish to attend let me know ASAP stating which army you will be using.

Guest - Legoburner ALL HAIL!!

Judges - Chimera_Calvin (that's me...)

Albatross (ORKS)
Ketara (GUARD)
mattyrm (MARINES)
Panic (GROTS)
ArbitorIan (DAEMONS)
Arakasi (ORKS)
endtransmission (GUARD)
SilverMK2 (CSM - NURGLE)
notprop (GUARD)
IanSturrock (DARK ANGEL MARINES)
mercer (ORKS)
Taloncab (ORKS)
ceorron (ORKS)
Battlecannon it phil (GUARD)
Tantras (CSM)
croggy (GUARD)
Titan (MARINES)
Corsair (MARINES)
Yiawchuah (MARINES)

Pending unforseen circumstances, I'll be there but not playing. I'll need a team of people to rough up other dakka members though so that my mod/admin powers are not made worthless in the real world.

Great! look forward to meeting you. As for the roughing up, I know a few people

Count me in! Erm, not for the 'roughing up' part, you understand... well, depends on what you're offering, I suppose!

I'll ask mattyrm, but he's already said he's deffo up for it, so can I make that +1?

Dang, just had my pilgrimage to WHW for the 40k doubles. Is there a way i can tentatively sign up until i know for sure if i can make it?

I'll be there! And don't worry Lego, I do security work part time. I'll make sure no-one questions your godly authority.

@holidayhalflife - as long as we know for definate before august.

@albatross, I'll put it down as +1 for now but get Mattyrm to confirm please.

Chimera_Calvin wrote:@holidayhalflife - as long as we know for definate before august.

Yeah, i'll know within the next week i reckon.

So long as no one minds someone who is terrible at the game coming along, I will see if I will be free on those dates (ie I will check with my wife when I get home ).

Ok pending as to weither or not I have a new Job I got made redundant last week still have my job at Orange we are all leaving on April 15th..

I need to let you know by August 1st yea?? so pending that I have dont have another job or am training in a job at that point I'll let you know.

Plus anyone else from Bristol going??

Aye ill come. I went to WHW year before last when i was at Center Parcs in Sherwood for a weeks holiday.

The place is pretty sweet, and the museum is cool, the only downside is that Bugmans Bar doesnt sell ANY real ale!!

No real ale?! In a Dwarven Bar?

I cant see Joseph Bugman knocking back twenty pints of Carling lets be fair.

Anyway, i shall of course be there with bells on unless someone close to me dies, and then ill probably just come anyway. Put my name down.


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Oh an pimpalotz ask MDG, iirc he is from Bristol. Also id like him to show up as he is a liberal and i want someone to argue with while im sat in the bar between matches.

yeah,
Count me in. I've got to arrange cover at work but that shouldn't be a problem.
I also think we should set the points to 1250pts.
1500 will mean that games get rushed while 1000 is a little low...

I'll be playing either Grots or Necrons...

Panic...

Aww you had to choose that day, the one i can't make. . I voted anyway.

Edit- hang on the 21st and 22nd are a thursday and friday. Do you mean 23rd and 24th?

August 21/22 2010 are sat/sun. You need to put up a new calendar

I'm in!

Hurrah! I'll let you know which army closer to the time, though. It depends what I've built and what size we go for...

Panic wrote:yeah,
Count me in. I've got to arrange cover at work but that shouldn't be a problem.
I also think we should set the points to 1250pts.
1500 will mean that games get rushed while 1000 is a little low...

I'll be playing either Grots or Necrons...

Panic...

IMO, 4 games is a bare minimum for a tournament. This means we only get an hour and a half for each game. Since this is meant to be a fun, casual thing, I don't want to have to rush every game, but I think 1250 is still a comfortable amount in an hour and a half.

Do we add a '4 x 1250' column?
Or do people want to stretch it over both days?

I'll have to check my summer schedule...

I'd say give the option of stretching it over both days.

I've not much interest in forking out for more hotel costs in Nottingham, but if you run a one day 40k tournament then my sentimental streak might be strong enough to make me bring my Tau out to play.

I'd consider it, time/money/uni work (as an MSc my dissertation runs over into october) allowing, could be quite cool, what would be the policy on non-dakka members being accepted.

Count me in - Orks of course (no way I'd have anything else ready...)

@Leigen_Zero - we can only get 12 tables, so thats a max of 24 players.

How this will work is I will update this thread every few days with a players list. Once this reaches 24 then any extras will go on a reserve list on a first-come-first-serve basis in case anyone from the original 24 drops out. If by deadline day we do not have 24 people signed up then we will open up the event to non-dakkaites.

As far as the event goes I think we need to stick to a one day tournament and leave the sunday free for people who want to do anything else (if we run a 2-day tourney then everyone has to commit to going both days, which may not be practical).

As for the 1250 option, I see what people mean but having run events before, its not a case of 4 games, each 1.5 hours. By the time you get everyone in, account for late arrivals, take down time from each game, set up for the new game, allow a decent lunchbreak and still have enough time for a chat and a pint at the end of the day...

It sounds harsh, but we are not allowed in before 10am and have to leave by no later than 6pm (standard opening hours). That gives us 8 hours max. If we play for more than 4-5 hours of that experience guarantees we will have all sorts of problems! So we need to come up with a format that fits that time-frame.

Hope this is ok with everyone - 4x 1000 is ahead by a nose!!!

I should be OK to attend.

I don't mind teaming up with someone for a 2 player entry if there are more than 24 people. So long as someone doesn't mind a huge handycap

Leigen_Zero wrote:I'd consider it, time/money/uni work (as an MSc my dissertation runs over into october) allowing, could be quite cool, what would be the policy on non-dakka members being accepted.

All they have to do is create an account and they're a dakka member. Easy

But what do I bring Catachans or Marines?? hmmmm

I'm going to bring my CSM, as they are the only army I currently have painted fully in anything like enough numbers to make up 1000 points and I doubt that I will get much painting time in between now and August to make up another army.

Damn work and game table making taking up all my painting time and room!

Indeed I got 3 days 12 hrs coming up and what have I done to expand my Catachans....?

Built my Master of Ordinance and a 3 man sharpshooter group and thats it! he looks good I'll admit that but I have to paint my first Platoon and buy 5 Ogres to convert into Ogryns and on top of that prime and paint my Valkyrie plus make my mind up about some Catachan themed Stormtroopers then theres the potential Blood Angels paint scheme for all my unpainted marines. (Enough to make a seperate army Devestators need a head change and commander needs a honour guard but then that would be finished (But thats all going in another thread when I figure out how to take decent pictures)

I dont even know if I have a legal Platoon and Company Command.... But my missus buying me my Imperial Guard Codex for our first anniversary (Paper one) should solve that.

I have plenty of time I can do this only working 3 hrs a day next month so plenty of time to devote to painting and converting!.

Count me in. Not sure if it'll be Guard or Red Scorpions yet though...

I would be happy to play either of them, based on your P&M blogs

Why not do an allied force if you can't decide?

I'm sure I'll be bringing both anyway,, though if last week is anything to go by, my Guard would spend the entire game shooting their own guys rather than the enemy!!.
I just need to decide which one to finish 1000 points of first!

If there's still space etc. I might tentatively add my hat to the ring.

Let me know if we're 'full up' or not! Cheers!

Still plenty of space left Rinkydink - you're on the list!

Were you planning on adding a list of all those attending to the first post?

^^ That's a grand idea, and also, maybe the armies that will be represented...?

In that case, put me down for Orks.

I am going to update the first post with a list of attendees later today. As far as armies go, if people have publicly said what they're taking I'll put that info up, but if people want to keep it a surprise that's fine too!!

I'd love to come but can't confirm for def until nearer the time. Will be Adeptus Mechanicus (IG counts as if people are ok with that)

I'll give my army details later on, based on what everyone else is taking - not in a powergamey way, but to try and get a bit of variety. (If three people are taking Guard armies, I'll bring Daemons. If everyone takes Daemons and Marines, I'll bring Squats, etc.)

Also, how are you looking at modelling/painting/sports scores? Am i right in thinking that everything used at Warhammer World has to be painted and based? This will affect army choice for some people...

I'd like to come, not actually been to Warhammer World yet, even though Nottingham is not that far from Brum.

Never played in a tournament before, so I imagine I'll be terrible, but if I bring along Orks or Chaos I can't help but have a good time.

Hope you don't mind new Dakkaites jumping in

Hi Ian, even Warhammer World is not bothered about painted/based stuff (although it would be nice if people made an effort).

As far as 'soft' scores go, I was thinking of a fairly standard 80% generalship, 10% sportsmanship and 10% painting/modelling split. To save time on painting/modelling I'll just do a 10 point ticklist and each army will be scored once in the day (by a judge so there can be no chipmunking).

The 'awards' (such as there are, its not like we're giving out prizes beyond a certificate and maybe a pint...) will be as follows:

Best Overall (based on all three scores)
Best General (just on generalship)
Best Sport (just on sportsmanship)
Players Choice (vote for best/coolest army)
Wooden Spoon (worst generalship score)
Most-fun-had-by-anyone Award (the player who gives out the highest sportsmanship scores and therefore enjoyed all their games!!)

@BishopGore - the more the merrier. As long as people enjoy the day I'll call it a success no matter how well people do!

The spoon is mine!

If you successfully lose this tournament, there will be spoons.

Ketara wrote:If you successfully lose this tournament, there will be spoons.

Woo!

I hope to get in a few practice matches to brush up on my knowledge of the rules before August. Though for that I may have to brave the horror that is my local GW store :(

Ok that gives me 6 months to finish a tactical squad and a land speeder... :S

hmm possibly, let me check my diary!

mmm, 1500pt point games are winning in the poll but a couple of people have said so far that they only have 1000pts available.

Also, there have been more poll votes than people who have posted in this thread!! If you are not intending to go could you please not vote, so I can get an idea of what the players who will be there want to do? Thanks.

You could always do a PM to people who have said they are coming, asking which they would prefer, and whether they have the models to make up the points or not.

yeah,
Also Chimera_Calvin you need to think about setting a age limit? or maybe make a rule that younger dakkites must be accompanied by a responsible adult at all times.

Has WarHammer World got rules on younger gamers?

PAnic...

C_C count me in please.

I voted for 4x1000 for 4 games rather than the points total.

I have a Guard army I would like to use. I Could put together a Tau force or prehaps a RT ork army with enough notice (say 4 months for painting?).

I would assume that GW will not take kindly to non-GW minis do you have any guidance from them on this?

Right, I appear to be able to make it so count me in! Does anyone know of a nice cheap hotel in walking distance?

covenant84 wrote:Right, I appear to be able to make it so count me in! Does anyone know of a nice cheap hotel in walking distance?

I too would be interested in knowing the location of some relatively cheap beds in the area

Or do I start a new army........................CRINGE!!

OK, a few points to answer!

Age limit - good thinking, Panic and a problem that had not occured to me. There is a minimum age of 12 for in-store gaming that as far as I know applies to Warhammer World as well, so that would have to be the bottom limit. For 12-17 year olds I think we have to say must be accompanied by an adult (from over 4 years of teaching I can tell you that permission forms are not worth the paper they're written on if a parent decides they want to sue you - and I'm not prepared to take the risk!)

Hotels - there is a travelodge about 10 mins walk from Warhammer World (Nottingham Riverside) and lots of hotels in Nottingham itself, although parking is a nightmare in town so check the hotel has parking available!

@notprop - You don't need to have painted armies to play at Warhammer World. As part of the saturday tournament we will have a painting/modelling score but it will be very basic so don't worry if stuff isn't finished!

@BOSS_PIMPALOTZ - there are two small creatures sitting on your shoulders. On the left is a demonic Tom Kirby saying 'give in to the plasticrack, spend more money on new toys....muuaahahaaa...', whilst on the right is an angelic Andy Chambers saying 'focus on what you have, make it great, stay true to your first 40k love...*choir*...'

I'll give the poll another day or two and then make a call on the format. If anyone has any really strong objections to one or other option please let me know!

If you're looking for a hotel in Nottingham, they don't come any cheaper than the Gresham hotel. It's faded, hasn't been redecorated in 50 years, and by the station, but it's about £33 a night for a room with a single bedroom with a shower. The breakfasts are pretty good too.

Sounds good to me.

Thanks for the hotel info.

Wish I could come, but its kinda three hundred miles away. :(

I just thought I'd post in this thread.

I hope to be there -- will check with my wife later, make sure we're not already busy that weekend... I will bring either Nids or Dark Angels, or borrow my son's Ork army, depending on what's needed to give a bit of variety.

Incidentally, the station is about a 20-min walk from GW, from what I recall, but it's a really nice walk along the canal towpath, so that hotel sounds spot on.

I voted 4x 1000pts because I'm a bit intimidated by 1500pts, but I can always flesh out my boyz for 1500pts if that's the will o' the people. It's not like the date is looming

I went for 4x1000 just so that you get to meet and play more people (and hopefully armies).

As by some margin now the oldest UK dakkaite still posting, I will attend and grumble at you all about the good old days.

Not sure what I will use. Probably Tau.

I've set up the alternate tournie over in Cantebrury now if those of you who were planning on attending that too want to take a gander. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/275792.page

Good luck with your event Ketara, I hope all goes well. Sorry I won't be able to make it (My missus is due to give birth mid-march) but all the best to all who can attend.

When you've finished the event could you post a report? I'd be interested to hear how it went

I will of course be playing my only army, the bane of elitist nerds everywhere, my beloved Ultramarines.

In the interests of continuity, can we come up with a crazy name for this tournament as well?

Bronze Beastman? Metal Manticore? Copper Goblin?

Anyone?

Daemon Dagger?

I don't think it could have the words Golden or Daemon in it... And Platinum and Devil are already taken by Canterbury's tournament in April.

However, a cursory look at the periodic table turns up three beginning with 'D'.

Dysprosium Dwarf, anyone?

How about Brazen Daemonette?

Oh, that's a good one....

The Silver Bolt tourney (followed by shouts of Dakka Dakka!)

On a side point - do people mind if armies include 'counts as' models - thinking in particular my knight counting as a leman russ - weapons are the same, it's just taller than usual and not quite as long. If not I may need to get a new russ model. Also my demolisher has a hull mounted cannon rather than turret mounted. Will this cause problems at all?

Thanks.

Morning chaps.
Im really sorry but im going to have to pull out. Turns out Baby mark 2 is on its way. Birthday is gonna land roughly in september. Now considering how early my son arrived number 2 could be as early so i can't really plan to go away. No Games day for me either.

Sorry about this. Good luck to you all in all your games though.

-HHL

@covenant84 - this is supposed to be a fun day more than a hardcore tournament. As long the model in question is a proper conversion rather than a 'counts-as' in the traditional sense of subbing one model you do have for one you don't, there shouldn't be a problem.

The only caveat would be everything must be WYSIWYG and the model must be of a similar size to the original. If in doubt PM me with details and I'll let you know.

@holidayhalflife - sorry you won't be there. I'll update the list when I get the chance. Good luck with the little 'un and see you next time around.

As for the name, perhaps the 'Comfy Sofa of Skulls'?

yeah,
Ok I've confirmed time off work.
yayy! I'm now a deffinently coming to this!

Now I just have to plan a hotel and transport.

I'll be playing Grots.

Panic...

I am confused:

This is August 2010 correct? If so, I am there

Gwar! wrote:I am confused:

This is August 2010 correct? If so, I am there

Yup, August 2010 in Nottingham, and there's also one in April in Canterbury on the other thread....

You mean we'll get to see the Gwar himself? This will be an event!

Yes, yes you will. Perhaps. I have yet to decide if I shall arrive upon a veiled Palanquin carried by the 3rd borne daughters of the common class.

You mean this is you?

Ketara wrote:You mean this is you?

Damn right!

So, any decision on 1000 vs 1500?

09/02/10 Update!!

Right, sorry I've been away a bit (combination of work and being ill).

Time for some updates. The first post now has all 16 people who have said they want to come. If you are on this list and cannot come please let me know ASAP. Also be aware we now have a maximum of 8 places remaining, so if you want to go, or know someone who does, let us know soon!

Also, if you want to change your intended army or have not decided yet, please post/PM as soon as you can.

The format has been decided as 4 games of 1000 points. The voting was pretty even (a few more voted for 1500 but it was not overwhelming). The reasons for the decision were:
1. Some people who wanted to attend either don't have 1500 points of stuff, or at least don't have it painted.
2. More games equals more games. One of the reasons for doing this is so we all get a chance to meet IRL, so the more people you get to play against, the better.

Finally, a big thank you to Gwar! who has volunteered to be a judge. This will let me focus more on running the event so hopefully the day will run smoothly for everyone.

Any questions, as always let me know and I'll see you all in a few months.

C_C

I will be playing CSM.

And woo for Gwar!

Chimera_Calvin wrote:
Finally, a big thank you to Gwar! who has volunteered to be a judge. This will let me focus more on running the event so hopefully the day will run smoothly for everyone.

Um, good on you, Gwar, but do you mean a painting judge or a tournament referee??

So not only can we not actually PLAY against Gwar, but our tournament is now referreed by the strictest RAW poster on the site?

:/

ArbitorIan wrote:

Chimera_Calvin wrote:
Finally, a big thank you to Gwar! who has volunteered to be a judge. This will let me focus more on running the event so hopefully the day will run smoothly for everyone.

Um, good on you, Gwar, but do you mean a painting judge or a tournament referee??

So not only can we not actually PLAY against Gwar, but our tournament is now referreed by the strictest RAW poster on the site?

:/

Who says I Wont be playing? Not MY fault that every ruling happens to be ruled in my favour! Don't worry, ya'll get to play me

Remember, judges are not there to tell you how to play.

They are there to provide an impartial verdict on rules queries that players cannot resolve between themselves when asked to do so.

Judges will intervene only when invited to by the players, or in cases or flagrant cheating.

When the event packs are issued nearer to the time,
guidelines will be included regarding rules judgements (and painting judgements too).

Does the Judge Guidelines allow for liberal beating with the Rawstick for failing to play GWarhammer correctly?

Gwar! wrote:Does the Judge Guidelines allow for liberal beating with the Rawstick for failing to play GWarhammer correctly?

RAW? Like,

- Models without eyes cannot shoot
- Doom of Malantai is not a Zoanthrope and cannot use its powers, as they refer to 'the Zoanthrope'
- Eldrad is not a farseer, and cannot use Farseer powers, which all refer to 'the Farseer'
- 'Moves like Jump Infantry' does not mean 'can Deep Strike'
- In various psychic powers, including Warptime, THE PSYKER ITSELF must roll the dice. (That's the model, not the player)
- Leman Russ Battle Tanks do not have battlecannons
- Infantry Platoons and Rough Riders are the only units available as Inducted Guard.
- Wobbly Model Rule means models can move in any direction, including into mid-air, and then be removed from the table, as long as both players know where they should be.
- Terminators in Terminator Armour cannot Sweeping Advance, but anyone else in Terminator Armour can.

Can anyone remember the one where you can't actually start a game because of RAW?

Awesome list

If there is a need for it, I'd be happy to be a painting judge.

Ditto to lego burner, if i can help or anything just let me know!

Like ArbitorIan, I am somewhat taken aback at the choice of referee....... however, I have to drop out as this is too proximate to the ETC so good luck with that.

If people don't want me there just say so and I won't go.

I don't doubt your knowledge of the rules, which is far more detailed than mine.

However, a referee is there to inspire confidence in players that they will get good resolution to any disputes they have. Not to tell them that their Eldrad model can't use its psychic powers.

Gwar gets my vote.

I won't judge a person based on YMDC - that way madness lies!

I'm not worried as long as Gwar promises that if something is clear cut against the spirit of the game (i.e., the Eldrad thing), he won't rule the slowed RAW way instead of RAI.

Albatross wrote:Gwar gets my vote.

I won't judge a person based on YMDC - that way madness lies!

I agree - I'm only teasing...

It'll be fine...

Can someone PM what this Eldrad thing is? Im curious. Did a search couldn't find any post specific to it.

It's quite simple. Eldarad should not be allowed to use farseer psychic powers, because his unit name is not 'farseer' therefore he does not count as one.

OK, can we please stay on topic

As far as the running of the event goes, if people have specific questions/problems please PM me - don't start haranguing people on an open forum.

I have had a number of offers from people to help with various aspects and am grateful to all of them. Organising an event is frought at the best of times, please don't add to my woes by moaning. Ultimately, all judging will be fair, impartial and compatible with the spirit of the event.

This is not a Throne of Skulls tourney, this is a chance for a bunch of gamers who would otherwise not get a chance to play each other to get some games in the magnificent setting of Warhammer World. The tourney format is being used because it is by far the easiest way to ensure that everyone gets in plenty of games - and to act as a spur to ensure everyone brings the best looking and best equipped army they have.

The judges will do what judges do at every event - namely let you get on with the game. If you and your opponent have a disagreement you cannot resolve, ask a judge to clarify the situation. Examples like the 'Eldrad is not a Farseer' are clearly not issues you would ask a judge to rule on, because irrespective of the RAW, no-one is sufficiently anally retentive to pretend that Eldrad can't use his powers.

Ultimately, the day will be what you make it. If you ask the judge for a lot of rulings, don't then complain if you are on the receiving end of a lot of rulings.

[/dad's best telling off voice]

I'd consider coming with my Zulus but ah well they aren't exactly GW models so whats the rules on that?

@Chimera_Calvin - But we can still get drunk though, yeah?

Albatross wrote:@Chimera_Calvin - But we can still get drunk though, yeah?

We'd better, or I most certainly won't be coming

In all likelihood I'll be bringing my Orks. And possibly my girlfriend.

She's much scarier than my Orks.

Drinking and Girlfriends FTW

Llamahead wrote:I'd consider coming with my Zulus but ah well they aren't exactly GW models so whats the rules on that?

Although this event is happy and friendly and would probably love to have Zulu guard, it's taking place at Warhammer World, which is basically like a GW store. I don't think they allow non-GW miniatures....

I would like to throw my 30yo Newbie hat into the ring!

It's been so long since I played, I might as well be!

Should be back in practice by then though hopefully!

*Edit* I'll be playing Chaos!

I would also like to bring my extremely rusty skills along. Just getting back into the swing of things.

Will be bringing my Tau.

I'm now umming and ahhing between Orks and Space Wolves... I loves meh puppies and have painted up a couple of models this week and loving the change from Green. I assume it's ok to decide nearer the time?

UPDATE 22/02/10

The first post has just been updated with the latest list of who's going and what armies they are taking.

Sorry torgoch can't make it (but many thanks for the interest - hope to see you at an event in the future)

There are now only 6 places left unless anyone else drops out, so please let me know ASAP if you want to come - remember its a 4-game, 1000pt tourney on the saturday with sunday available for free-play.

Also, 7 players have still not picked their armies, we currently have 4x Orks, 2x CSM, 2x Guard, 1x Marines, 1x Sisters and 1x Tau if that helps you to decide.

As always, if there are any questions/changes let me know.

See you all in august. C_C

I'm definitely coming; just need to see how many immolators i can fit into 1000pts now

I'm off to the Bloodbowl GT in a couple of months with a bunch of people from my local area; once we get our hotels sorted, I'll post up a bunch of links/info for everyone! If anyone wants to room share to keep costs down I'm up for it; I'm clean, pretty and always armed with tequila and cider.

J.Black wrote:I'm definitely coming; just need to see how many immolators i can fit into 1000pts now

I'm off to the Bloodbowl GT in a couple of months with a bunch of people from my local area; once we get our hotels sorted, I'll post up a bunch of links/info for everyone! If anyone wants to room share to keep costs down I'm up for it; I'm clean, pretty and always armed with tequila and cider.

You had me at clean

I mean cider.

Ok, but if you look like your avatar you'll be wearing the cider

I've just been wandering, is there any cost for this event? I'm assuming that CC isn't charging anything for running it (since he hasn't mentioned anything), but do Warhammer World charge anything?

Also, does it cost to go to the museum?

Sorry if this is obvious stuff to ask, but I can't seem to locate any details on the website.

I'll be bringing some vanilla Marines. (I need some practice with them!)

BishopGore - its free to get into Warhammer World and its free to see the miniatures gallery when you're there.

Bugman's Bar does sell a couple of souvenir guides (not really worth it IMHO but there you go).

You will need money to cover food/drink while you are there (I went the other day for an apocalypse game and between lunch and 3-4 drinks I spent about £15) Its a little on the pricey side but the food is brilliant. I heartily recommend the 'fat bloke'.

Yes it really is on the menu

Also, be aware that the shop is good (although they've cut back heavily on the amount of specialist games stuff in stock recently - another nail in that particular coffin) so you may want to bring extra for new toys. Of special note is the forgeworld stuff. They do have some that you can buy 'over the counter' and take away with you at the time. More importantly is that if you put in a forgeworld order over £10 at the shop, delivery is free, rather than having to spend £250 for free delivery from their website.

Hope this helps, see you there.

Awesome, just wanted to check there would be stuff to do for my gf. Thanks Calvin

Still not sure whether we'll stay in a hotel or drive back to Birmingham on Saturday night and return Sunday morning. I will hopefully be able to give you a lift covenant84 if you need it, and maybe someone else. Depends if any of my mates want to tag along.

No probs Bishop, Also bear in mind if your gf is coming along but doesn't join in there are comfy sofas in bugmans so she can sit with a good book, they do coffee and cake at the bar (the cakes are good but huge!) and there are board games in the bar too.

Also, there are always displays up in the gaming hall (artwork, 3-ups of minis, etc) and the minis hall is good for at least a 30min-1hour look round if you take a good look at everything. There is a big projector TV in Bugmans too but on saturdays its usually just on in the afternoon showing Gillette Soccer Saturday. Don't know if that's her cup of tea or not...

Oh noes the one week end I cant go !

Shewhoshallbeobeyed allowed me to cohabit many years ago on those hallowed days to I have to make my ritual treck to the lands of sand to repent my yearly sins

Bah humbug . Record it , takes loads of pictures or I will send the 'nids to eat you all.

Have a fab time

I'll likely bring Dark Angels, given the relative lack of Space Marines.

This will only, er, I mean all be worth it WHEN someone snaps a pic of Gwar! for posting here on Dakka Dakka.

Someone, make it so!

@bishopgore - thanks for the offer matey, would love to take you up on that! will onviously chip in for fuel! Nice to see you going. (can you sneak your gargant into 1000pts? you could disguise it as a grot and unviel it in the last turn lol)

covenant84 wrote:@bishopgore - thanks for the offer matey, would love to take you up on that! will onviously chip in for fuel! Nice to see you going. (can you sneak your gargant into 1000pts? you could disguise it as a grot and unviel it in the last turn lol)

Well there goes that secret plan!

We'll have to have a game before August to see whether your IG can do better than my friend's...

always up for a challenge! tbh, i don't expect to do too well at warhammer world, going for the fun

yep, that's cheesy!

Put me down as a maybe. Either bringing Orks or Imperial Fists.

Btw do they have terrain there? I'm not a fan of playing no footballs pitches lol. I've got terrain I can bring btw.

Yes, they have terrain and I'll be contacting them before the event to make sure we get plenty.

Any idea when you'll know for definate, mercer?

Well I'm going to ask my mate and his buddie who I play warhammer with because I need someone to hold my hand because I don't want to come alone! lol

yeah,
Arbitor Ian checked with warhammer world and that weekend has a bloodbowl tourney on the other tables, so they won't be needing the terrain.

PAnic...

Ok cool. I'll bring some terrain just in case

I could well be interested, along with 3 friends, all Dakkites.

I shall discuss and confirm ASAP.

I'm in - it's in my diary! Wicked!

I'll be playing orks - and am one of the three pals of Tantras

Just a quick update. I will be bringing my Guard for the tournament

Yeah go ahead I'll come and I'll be playing Orks over the weekend.

I will, if schedule allows, be attending.

I have no intention of playing, but I do want to have a little chat with gwar face to face.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I will, if schedule allows, be attending.

I have no intention of playing, but I do want to have a little chat with gwar face to face.

Since it is now obvious that my presence is going to be a distraction for people there, playing or not, I am saddened to have to announce my withdrawal from this event.

@Gwar! - Oh come on, man! You should come - It'll be a larf! I think people are just teasing.

@MGS - I will be VERY, VERY, VERY dissappointed if you don't look like, or at least speak in a really loud booming voice like, Brian Blessed.

Hey, come Gwar!!

I'm a noob and I want to pick your brain!

Sounds like MGS wants to pick your brain in a different way though. Don't worry about that though!

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:
Sounds like MGS wants to pick your brain in a different way though. Don't worry about that though!

More in a sort of Leon Trotsky way.

Ketara wrote:

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:
Sounds like MGS wants to pick your brain in a different way though. Don't worry about that though!

More in a sort of Leon Trotsky way.

aye another of tantras friends im game and looks like guard , splash deamon hunters for me, im scared of big monsters and that

UPDATE 20/03/10 - Only one place left!!

well, with a late influx we've pushed the numbers up to 23 out of our possible 24!

If anyone is interested in the last place it will be assigned on a strictly first come-first served basis (no put me down as a maybe and I'll be upset when the place is given to someone else larks!)

16 players have confirmed their army selection and so far we have 6 Ork players, 4 Guard, 2 CSM and one each from DA, vanilla SM, SoB and Tau.As per, if anyone wants to change their details or can't come please let me know ASAP

See you all in a few months, C_C

I'm going to change to Space Wolves, if that is ok.

I thought Space Marines might be over represented, but it seems Orks are in abundance, so I'll switch to the side of the Imperium

How tight is WYSIWYG going to be?

I assume default wargear won't need to be shown just optional weapons/kit?

Just asking as I don't want to turn up with non eligable models!

Glad to see it's filled up! Really want to play againt a horde/orc army as I don't see me getting a chance before then!

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:
Glad to see it's filled up! Really want to play againt a horde/orc army as I don't see me getting a chance before then!

Mr-_-Flidd I will be bringing an Ork hord and it has been a while since I played a good chaos player. If you fancy it i'd be happy to play you on the second day?

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ceorron wrote:

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:
Glad to see it's filled up! Really want to play againt a horde/orc army as I don't see me getting a chance before then!

Mr-_-Flidd I will be bringing an Ork hord and it has been a while since I played a good chaos player. If you fancy it i'd be happy to play you on the second day?

Sounds good to me ceorron! I don't know about a good chaos player but i'll give it a good go! Battle booked!!

With at least 5 Ork players in the tournie there's a good chance you'll draw one for competative play.

With regards to Sunday games, are people thinking of playing 1000pts or 1500? Or will it simply be on a case by case basis? Doesn't really matter, just wondering about transporting the stuff.

Some multi-player apoc games might be fun for sunday. Especially if we can get all the like armies on each side

SilverMK2 wrote:Some multi-player apoc games might be fun for sunday. Especially if we can get all the like armies on each side

That would be awesome.

SilverMK2 wrote:Some multi-player apoc games might be fun for sunday. Especially if we can get all the like armies on each side

I'd be up for this - it's looking like it would be Imperium vs Green Tide! Should be fun.

Me and mattyrm are looking at coming down on the friday night, if anyone's about for a few beers?

apoc mmmmmmmm deathstrike time

Albatross wrote:Me and mattyrm are looking at coming down on the friday night, if anyone's about for a few beers?

Depends on finances, if I'm doing well then we'll come Friday and stay in a hotel, if not then I'll be driving back and forth each day as the petrol will cost less than a 2 person hotel room.

Would definitely prefer to stay though, otherwise we'll miss out on the real fun of the after games shindig.

I can't remember what my plans were (stupid brain!), but I may well be coming up on the Friday and staying over until the Sunday.

I will join you for some J2O if you don't mind being bored to death

I think I'm gonna get there for Friday too. I'm down with some drinking

I reckon ukmets and I will be up for some drinking and maybe dusk till dawn poker club after!

Apoc sounds awsome!!

Oh, and if anyone is driving from near Chester, and had a spare spot in their car; I'd much appreciate a lift Seeing as I'd save money on the train, i would be happy to re-imburse with beer/cider/tarot reading etc...

sorry mate i'm only 40mins south of Notts.

If not i would gladly!

J., I will be driving from Wrexham -- not sure when, yet.

@J.Black - If you could get to Manchester, you could probably hop in with me and mattyrm. I'll check with him and let you know.

Ok, I couldn't decide which army to go for. Poll here....

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/285713.page#1433097

I think myself and Arakasi are planning on going up friday morning and seeing if we can get in some much needed practice friday afternoon, so food /drinks on friday evening sounds like a good plan

The Apoc game on sunday sounds fun too

Would love a good vs evil Apoc game. We had an AV only Apoc game at our gaming club at Xmas.

6 Titans, a pylon, over 30 Baneblades and an entire horde of Ork Kans... and the smaller vehicles were nigh on uncounted.

Would love to get involved in another.

Was thinking of bringing 2000 pts for the sunday that way i'll be sure to cover most things, though only bringing a 1000 pts in on the saturday for transport reasons.

The idea of a team up Apoc game sounds great also.

i think i can get there, anyone need a lift between scunthorpe and nottingham?

1000 pts of tau, the only tau army there by the looks of things

endtransmission wrote:I think myself and Arakasi are planning on going up friday morning and seeing if we can get in some much needed practice friday afternoon, so food /drinks on friday evening sounds like a good plan

Cool, I reckon we'll be there around then - maybe we could have a couple of (again, much needed) pick-up games?

shas'o vera wrote:i think i can get there, anyone need a lift between scunthorpe and nottingham?

1000 pts of tau, the only tau army there by the looks of things

My mate ukmets is bringing Tau also.

Hopefully there will be a couple of everything!

Albatross wrote:
Cool, I reckon we'll be there around then - maybe we could have a couple of (again, much needed) pick-up games?

sure, but i dont actually play to win, i just play to have fun

shas'o vera wrote:

Albatross wrote:
Cool, I reckon we'll be there around then - maybe we could have a couple of (again, much needed) pick-up games?

sure, but i dont actually play to win, i just play to have fun

Same here Shas'O. I don't expect to stay in the running, but I reckon it'll be good fun.

and if anyone says that tau are commies while im there........ i'll be on them like a stink on ork's

I think if you start tackle hugging people there might be raised eyebrows.

BishopGore wrote:I think if you start tackle hugging people there might be raised eyebrows.

well, i surpose i could start pelvic thrusting that them instead.....

but still, if anyone says tau are commies im going to get a [censored by modquisition] and [censored by modquisition] using a [censored by modquisition] down their [censored by modquisition].

got it you guys?

Tau are ........... Lovely?!?

Just can't do it, the thought of having a pelvis thrust upon me is too scary!

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:Tau are ........... Lovely?!?

Just can't do it, the thought of having a pelvis thrust upon me is too scary!

Any chance you'll be bringing along your new Chaos Magician and his pal?

Oh he'll be there alright! Whether he get used in the tourny or not!

I may come up for the Friday. Make as much of the available gaming time as possible!

Where's everyone staying?

I'm going to book the premier inn, castle marina. Nottingham. it's only 1 mile away from WW and for friday and sat night it's £99 per twin room. (no breakfast though)

I reckon you'll struggle to find anywhere cheaper £24.75 pp a night!

Hope that helps anyone thinking of staying over!

I hope to be there on the Friday too.

Premier Inn sounds great -- from what I recall, you can walk along the canal towpath almost as far as WW's front door, so it'll be a nice walk too...

I'd like to recommend the Gresham Hotel. It's a little worn, and a half hour walk away from Warhammer World, but it's v. cheap, clean, and the Breakfasts are actually pretty good. Right next to the station as well, so you can dump your stuff when you arrive.

Not sure I'd want to walk half an hour lugging a GW carry case... I know I'm horribly lazy, but there it is

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:Tau are ........... Lovely?!?

Just can't do it, the thought of having a pelvis thrust upon me is too scary!

i want to hear you truthfully.... i know thats not what your thinking inside.....

for that you get pelvic thrust......

*pelvic thrusts in his direction*

Bishop, maybe we can hire some kind of a boat to take a posse of us along the canal? Some sort of Orky battle-barge would probably be idea.

shas'o vera wrote:

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:Tau are ........... Lovely?!?

Just can't do it, the thought of having a pelvis thrust upon me is too scary!

i want to hear you truthfully.... i know thats not what your thinking inside.....

for that you get pelvic thrust......

*pelvic thrusts in his direction*

AaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhH The Horror, the horrrror!!


Seeing as I already got the thrust......


Tau are commies! There I said it. better to get it out of the system now don't you think!

The tau will be crushed under my mighty power armoured boots of doom! [bwahaha]

BishopGore wrote:

shas'o vera wrote:

Albatross wrote:
Cool, I reckon we'll be there around then - maybe we could have a couple of (again, much needed) pick-up games?

sure, but i dont actually play to win, i just play to have fun

Same here Shas'O. I don't expect to stay in the running, but I reckon it'll be good fun.

Oh, don't get me wrong - I'm purely in it for the fun. And possibly the beer.

I am a fully paid-up card-carrying member of The Dakka Casual-Gaming Mafia, don't worry.

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:
AaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhH The Horror, the horrrror!!


Seeing as I already got the thrust......


Tau are commies! There I said it. better to get it out of the system now don't you think!

*another pelvic thrust, this time closer to him*

Ian Sturrock wrote:Bishop, maybe we can hire some kind of a boat to take a posse of us along the canal? Some sort of Orky battle-barge would probably be idea.

I saw a P&M blog with a guy who is doing Orky Pirates and he made a big gobbed Orky pirate ship on tracks. If we use an amphibious chimera as a base then we can kustomize it into a land and canal-going vessel.

Of course we'd have to really BELIEVE that my Nissan Micra is a Chimera, but I don't see how this plan could go wrong!

You can with a Nissan.

SilverMK2 wrote:You can with a Nissan.

sure, all we need is the blueprints of the conversions they used on the sherman tanks during d-day, then we can make one hell of a WW2 landing craft


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SilverMK2 wrote:You can with a Nissan.

sure, all we need is the blueprints of the conversions they used on the sherman tanks during d-day, then we can make one hell of a WW2 landing craft

I'm going to have to drop out. Apparently I'm going to be on Manitoulin Island in Ontario that weekend.

I'd say that sucks, but I love it there, so...

Sorry Rob, hopefully you can get there with someone else.

shas'o vera wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:You can with a Nissan.

sure, all we need is the blueprints of the conversions they used on the sherman tanks during d-day, then we can make one hell of a WW2 landing craft

What? Top Gear got all the way across the channel in a modified Nissan pickup, so I'm fairly sure you crazy people could get a micra down one mile of canal

As for games on friday... I'm up for that. I'm guessing look for the adults in the room on the Friday and they will be Dakkites as it's a kids hobby camp thing that week. I'm also a casual gamer and not really expecting anything other than some fun games. Arakasi on the other hand has a mile wide winning streak with his tricksy Orks... so watch out

endtransmission wrote:As for games on friday... I'm up for that. I'm guessing look for the adults in the room on the Friday and they will be Dakkites as it's a kids hobby camp thing that week. I'm also a casual gamer and not really expecting anything other than some fun games. Arakasi on the other hand has a mile wide winning streak with his tricksy Orks... so watch out

Arrrgh! You realise you have now doomed me to a weekend long losing streak? I could of handled it but there are Grot insurrections to put down and Dark Angels to harvest. Anyway, I don't think I've played enough games to count for a mile yet (all battle reports are on Dakka and linked, somewhere, in my project blog). In fact, I do believe I have lost two and drawn one of my last three games.... - one even against you

You can't *not* have fun with Orks - win or lose - just remember, when you don't know what to do - think what would an Ork do?


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Oh - unless you want to actually win, and then you may have to occasionally think about it. I mean, I really didn't spend teef on boarding planks just to provide fancy steps for da boyz to leave da trukk *en masse* and assault Chimeras....

I will hopefully be there. I don't think I have any weddings to go to that weekend.

I will probably play a Blood Angels list, painted as Lamenters.

Canterbury sounds like it was ace! Really looking forward to August now! Just need to paint and play test my Noise filth!!

UPDATE 13/04/10

We are now full - and have a name! Following hard on the heels of the success of Platinum Devil, Silver Sorcerer is heading to Warhammer World in a few months!

There are still some people who have yet to pick their armies - please can I remind everyone to do this ASAP as the mission briefings will be individually tailored.

@Fifty - someone had PM'd me before you put your name down so you are the first name on the reserve list.

Can I please ask EVERYONE if you cannot make it to let me know straight away. Anyone who expresses an interest from this point on will be placed on the reserves list but these will be bumped to the main list on a first-come-first-serve basis, so its vital I know if any places become available to allow people to make plans.

See you all soon

Cool

I may have to buy a wizards hat for the occasion

Rinkydink wrote:I'll be bringing some vanilla Marines. (I need some practice with them!)

Hi Chimera_Calvin, I'm still planning to take these.^^

Also, Silver Sorcerer; I like it!

Updated - sorry I missed that one!

Glad you like the name. Not sure if I should enforce a robe-hat-beard dress code, though

You know you want to

wouldn't we get a lawsuit from the wizerds of the coast?

Nottingham is really far away from the coast, so we should be safe from them.

SilverMK2 wrote:Nottingham is really far away from the coast, so we should be safe from them.

but not safe from me your not

*pelvic thrust* >:3

Aaaarrrgggghhhhh! He's at it again!

I can't get the thrushing out of my mind!

It's in my dreams! *Weeps on Keys*

I'll be bringing either CSM, SM or Orks - not sure yet. Need to get some good lists together.

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:Aaaarrrgggghhhhh! He's at it again!

I can't get the thrushing out of my mind!

It's in my dreams! *Weeps on Keys*

i know, andi wont stop!!!!

*pelvic thrust*

mercer wrote:I'll be bringing either CSM, SM or Orks - not sure yet. Need to get some good lists together.

CSM FTW! Tag team baby!

shas'o vera wrote:

Mr-_-Flidd wrote:Aaaarrrgggghhhhh! He's at it again!

I can't get the thrushing out of my mind!

It's in my dreams! *Weeps on Keys*

i know, andi wont stop!!!!

*pelvic thrust*

I know, It will never stop!

Thrust that thing at me, and my DP will chop it off

SilverMK2 wrote:Thrust that thing at me, and my DP will chop it off

*gets a bonded cremaite and adamantium crotch guard then pelvic thrusts towards you*

*turns your crotch into a choas spawn*

Wait, was it always that ugly?

And I think we should probably stick to the topic, rather than dragging the thread through the bushes of OT

True.

Funny as it is!

So we're full that's good!

If it helps with the story/ scenarios I'll be bringing my Libertains (Slaaneshi Fluff CSM)

I will be bringing the Chapter of the Black Hand - Nurgle CSM [bwahaha]

and i will bring the worst painted tau in existance, and pelvic thrust you all >:3

I will be bringing a beard, for sure.

Ian Sturrock wrote:I will be bringing a beard, for sure.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!

Mark me down as Imperial Guard, Calvin.

Shame, more investigation reveals one of this summer's weddings IS on that weekend, so I will have to take my name off of the reserve list.

Damn these people and their love!

BishopGore wrote:I'm going to have to drop out. Apparently I'm going to be on Manitoulin Island in Ontario that weekend.

I'd say that sucks, but I love it there, so...

Sorry Rob, hopefully you can get there with someone else.

As I said ^

No WW for Bishop and his Puppies :(

Ok I've finally decided what army I am taking; Chaos Space Marines

IRON WITHIN! IRON WITHOUT!

I am almost certainly going to go for Tyranids rather than my planned Dark Angels -- I can't seem to get a 1000 pt Dark Angel list that isn't either very fragile, or very limited in firepower. :( Might bring my DAs for bigger point games on the Sunday though.

UPDATE 28/04/10

changes have been made to the first post - we now have only 4 players (ArbitorIan, Reaver83, BOSS_PIMPALOTZ and Tantras) who have yet to make an army selection.

As it stands we have 2x Marines, 1x Sisters, 6x Guard, 2x Tau, 1x Tyranid, 5x Orks/Grotz and 3x CSM. All in all a pretty good spread!

As usual, post/PM any changes. We still have one name on the reserve list so if you can't make it, be sure to let me know so I can bump Titan Princeps to the main list.

It would be nice if I can finalise everything by the end of May so that I can issue out the rules/mission packs and give everyone plenty of chance to practice over summer. Any question let me know and I'll see you all soon!!

C_C

I like that my CSM's have NURGLE! written after them

As long as they don't dribble infected pus on those further down the list...

How did you guess my plan?!?

SilverMK2 wrote:How did you guess my plan?!?

dont worry, you still have the backup plan.... and the backup plan for the backup plan?

shas'o vera wrote:dont worry, you still have the backup plan.... and the backup plan for the backup plan?

Wrong Choas god - I just infect people

SilverMK2 wrote:

shas'o vera wrote:dont worry, you still have the backup plan.... and the backup plan for the backup plan?

Wrong Choas god - I just infect people

but.... but..... i can change.... i know it....

i'm looking forward to it

me and mark(mercer) are car sharing to this one so if any of you guys live locally to us and feel like sharing the fuel bill just let us know

i live cannock area

cheers guys and gd luck(you'll need it lol)

sat night get mashed in rock city, with all the scruffy moshers

Oooo just gone and booked the hotel!!! Who is on at Rock City, any ideas?

@bishop-gore -that sucks, aww well.

Is anyone else heading over from birmingham area? time to get practising i think!

I'm in Meriden / Coventry during the week if that counts (though I'll have to bring my painted models back from Scotland )

Don't know if I'll have time to practise though - must model/paint!

Has anyone booked anywhere to stay yet?

Also, I am heading over from somewhere in the region of Stoke (boo!)

I just booked rooms for myself and Arakasi at the Riverside Travellodge at £35 night. 6 minutes drive/ 30 minutes walk from GW and about a mile from the city centre to allow for drinkage in the evening.

You have my sympathies about Stoke. I went to university in Stafford

Is there a definitive list anywhere of who is attending? I signed up initially for myself and three friends, but missed any sort of acknowledgement. Just want to make sure before we go ahead looking for accommodation etc.

Tantras
Taloncab
Corsair
Battlecannon it Phil

Corsair will almost certainly be playing Tyranids, I will almost certainly be playing CSM, as far as I'm aware the other two chaps are still deciding.

The first post has a list of everyone who is in the tournament/meet up, as well as anyone on the waiting list.

I was asked by Corsair (who has no net access right now) to request that he be added to the reserves list, please.

Updated - Corsair is on the reserves (but be aware there are 2 people ahead of him) and you're down for CSM, Tantras.

Now if I can just get ArbitorIan, Reaver83 and BOSS_PIMPALOTZ to decide what they're taking we've got a full house and I can get the mission packs finalised and sent out...

See you all there!

UPDATE 28/05/10

There has been a slight change to the first post - I am now asking for confirmation of attendance and army selection by the 1st of July, so any waverers have about 5 weeks.

A couple of clarifications - there is no minimum painting requirement (although you will obviously struggle to place in the painting and overall categories without it).

Each of the four missions will have 20 points on offer to be split between the two players (so scores will range from 20-0 to 10-10 depending on the level of victory).

There will be 10 points on offer for painting/modelling. This will be done ONCE in the day by a judge (so no chipmunking) and will be based on a ticksheet that will come out with the mission briefings.

Finally, there will be 10 points on offer for sportsmanship. You will have to rate your opponent out of 5 each game (in secret). Each players scores will be tallied to give a total out of 20 and then halved to give the final sportsmanship score out of 10.

All this will give you a maximum overall score of 100. Whilst unfortunately I can't offer prize support I will buy a pint or two for anyone scoring 90 or higher

Please note that pairings for the first two rounds will be randomly decided before the event. Pairings for rounds 3 and 4 will be based purely on generalship points.

Any questions, as always give me a shout.

C_C

What the hell is "chipmunking"?

SilverMK2 wrote:What the hell is "chipmunking"?

The score is for modelling, so they have to make sure the models are built properly. Once during the day, a box of angry chipmunks are let loose on the army tables, and after everyone has capered around for a while trying to catch them, they judge your army. If it's still in one piece, you get points. Easy.

Ah, I see

Chimera_Calvin wrote:UPDATE 28/05/10

Whilst unfortunately I can't offer prize support I will buy a pint or two for anyone scoring 90 or higher

C_C

Will there be trophies?

If army judging's by chipmunks I'm gonne have to invest in some glue, don't think my blu-tac built models will stand up to that sort of scrutiny

I'm trying to get some trophies sorted at the mo but can't guarantee anything - a lot will depend on work/family (you know, all the boring crap that gets in the way of serious 40k business...)

You can tell my wife doesn't read what I post here...

Thanks again for all the effort going into doing this - I am looking forward to it immensely! Does it matter my name is spelt incorrectly on the first page - or have I been deluding myself that I am going, when in reality some "Araksi" has my spot?

no, that's just me being rubbish, will change it now!

every one chips a pint in for the winner , that could be a nice communal prize / death

There's 24 people going - if everyone chips in a pint for the winner it'll have to come with a free stomach pump...

If we're struggleing, what if someone does a brief sketch and everyone chips in with spare sprue/plastic bits to make one on the day. Sort of like the scrap deamon trophie from games day. minimal cost then.

Plus of course pints and a stomach pump

What if the prize is all participants must pay homage to the winner of the tournament by using a graphic in their sig... of the winner's choice... for three months or something.

...and 20 pints.

If everyone chips in a marine, he could get a nice couple of squads....

Might be better to bring orks, since there are more ork players, thus more chance of the winner being an ork lover

How about £2? 24 x £2 = £48 - enough to buy a Marine or two Orks - even after the price rise

That's actually a good idea - if everyone chips in the cost of a pint, that's pretty much a shiny new battleforce, or any other combination of boxes, for the winner....?

Would there be a case for assuming everyone's gonna chip in a couple of quid, and then purchasing £40 of GW vouchers or DarkSphere/Wayland web credit or something?

If you decide to do that, I'd be cool with it.

Works for me.

Good with me too. Collect it all when we are together then and there.

how about we all chip in 8 billion pounds
that way i may just be able to afford the baneblade i've always wanted

I'm up for chipping in whatever for the Winner!

sounds good to me! maybe winner gets half, best sportsman gets a 1/4 and best army gets a 1/4?

separate question - are 'allies' allowed in your force - My normal army is themed and contains a tactical sqaud as it's 2nd troops selection, and also a techmarine as an ellit. Just that if not I'll obviously need to bring forward plans for more troops choices. At the moment it's just a bit depressing loking at the bits knowing how much time a squad takes me :(

Is there any over points limited allowed? My list comes to 1005! :(

mercer wrote:Is there any over points limited allowed? My list comes to 1005! :(

I'm pretty sure you can trim 5pts, that's half the skill!

Negative. Nothing I can take out at all nothing I can shave off.

mercer wrote:Negative. Nothing I can take out at all nothing I can shave off.

Really? I'm intrigued! I guess something's got to give, then

Yup. I've shaved off the three champions which takes me down to 1,005. Only things left are special weapons and chaos icons, which I need both, really.

I play Chaos too, so I feel your pain, but like I said, rules are rules unfortunately. Making it fit through uncomfortable choices is a big part of the game. Not got Meltabombs you can drop from anybody, then?

Nope basically got 2 x daemon princes and 3 units of chaos space marines in rhinos.

Armed with meltas, I assume? You might just have to drop one down to a flamer or something mate.

Drop a DP in favour of a Sorcerer then use him in one of the units. Auto drops 1x Melta and the price of a CSM so you can give the sorcerer what you like you'll still have the points!

Oh, wait that's my list.

Bugger.

I'll probably drop a icon.

Oh dear... it's going to be a DP Fest is it?

Actually - I'm sure I've visited a website in the past with that very same name...

I'm cool with everyone chipping in £2 (if all 24 players plus me do that we're at £50 for the prize fund) but it has to be all or nothing. If anyone doesn't chip in its not fair on those who do.

Points wise 1,000 is the upper limit as is normal for a tournament. If its ok for one person to go over 1,000 it has to be ok for everyone to go above 1,000 and then it gets messy... Sorry guys but strict is the only way to be fair.


Finally - The four missions are now written and are being playtested. There may be minor detail changes but the titles are as follows:

Mission 1: Recon
Mission 2: Sieze Ground
Mission 3: Headquarters Raid
Mission 4: Into the Fire

More details will follow but that's a big enough hint for now...

Ahh it would be cool to go, if only GES was going....

mercer wrote:Nope basically got 2 x daemon princes and 3 units of chaos space marines in rhinos.

I take this is from your iron warriors army then, mercer?

Is everyone bringing their 'A' lists then?

I was gonna bring my penitent engine horde but it looks like i'll just be shot off the board for four straight games

Time to build some more immolators

i'm going to try to not bring mech guard

but its soooooooooo tempting lol

I'm going to be using a fluff-based CSM list. It's quite good, but it's not fully super-duper optimised and min/maxed or anything.

Well, I've just finished converting a Canoness especially for the comp now

I think I'll bring a moderately strong list, seeing as SoB suck at anything below 1500pts But I think I'll leave the 3xExorcists at home now in favour of something a bit more, fluffy. Not that my codex gives me many choices in that regard!

well i do hope peeps take it as a fun tourney

croggy wrote:well i do hope peeps take it as a fun tourney

My thinking too I got me a drinking contest with mattyrm to compete in as well

My intention is to bring something fluffy but annoying. hopefully this is how everyone else is thinking


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hmmz, just to check...
...is bringing 3xExorcist too beardy?

Massively excited about this tourney. Great venue, cool people and some exciting looking missions.

Bring it on!

croggy wrote:i'm going to try to not bring mech guard

but its soooooooooo tempting lol

Gaaahh.

This was my thinking, and why I WON'T be taking the Squats - too many Guard armies already...

The current army breakdown for the tournament is...

6 x GUARD
5 x ORKS
4 x CSM
2 x MARINES
2 x TAU
1 x WITCHHUNTERS
1 x TYRANIDS

0 x ELDAR
0 x DARK ELDAR
0 x DAEMONHUNTERS
0 x MARINE VARIANTS
0 x NECRONS
0 x DAEMONS

So, Squats and Arbites are out (they're Guard and Witchhunters). I'm currently weighing up the options between Daemons and Harlequins... I wonder, would anyone let me use the 3ed Harlequin Codex? It's technically never been superceded.....! Otherwise, Slaanesh Daemons for me!


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J.Black wrote:I was gonna bring my penitent engine horde but it looks like i'll just be shot off the board for four straight games

Bring it! Just so we can see it in action against Panic's Kan Wall....

Well, I only have Orks, and then only one build for 1000pts - so no surprises here!

yeah,

ArbitorIan wrote:The current army breakdown for the tournament is...
6 x GUARD
4 x ORKS
4 x CSM
2 x MARINES
2 x TAU
1 x WITCHHUNTERS
1 x TYRANIDS
1 x GROTS

0 x SQUATS
0 x ELDAR
0 x DARK ELDAR
0 x DAEMONHUNTERS
0 x MARINE VARIANTS
0 x NECRONS
0 x DAEMONS
...

Fix'd your typos... you should totally bring squats!

Panic...

I'm happy with £2 each to get prize support sorted. I reckon it's best as one £48 voucher for overall winner, though, rather than splitting it between general/sports/paint. Best painted is its own reward in that everyone will be hugely complimentary. Best sportsmanship is also its own reward, as the winner is bound to be awesome company and so will just win at life.

+1 ^

i was thinking of going for a fun list where every unit was carrying some sort of template or blast weapon so i came up with this

[145] CCS, 4meltaguns, chimera(i know no templates here ......but wait the chimera has a hevy flamer so yay )

[050] PCS, 4flamers ( the perfect template unit(although it will prob get destroyed from range turn one in every game))

[060] infantry squad, grenade launcher, mortar

[065] infantry squad, grenade launcher, autocannon (autocannons were added to use up points, although i may change these to on missile launcher and 2 mortars)

[050] PCS, 4grenade launchers

[065] infantry squad, grenade launcher, autocannon

[065] infantry squad, grenade launcher, autocannon

[160] manticore rocket launcher

[190] lrexecutioner

[150] lrbt

i know i'll get murdered , especially in objectives or any mission involving movement but i think it should be a fun list its either this or my mixed arms involving 2 vendettas but the other one is less fun and more compettetive

will be fine for capture and cont though, template them off their objective ad just keep your, and you have enough men to swarm, objectives sounds good. anyone takes 2 vendettas clearly has no friends

Battlecannon it phil wrote: anyone takes 2 vendettas clearly has no friends

you know me so well lol

UPDATE - First mission details (BP refers to Battle Points):

Recon.

Following planetfall, your forces must scout the location of enemy troops whilst maintaining operational security. If possible take and hold strategic points in preparation for the coming campaign.

Primary Mission: Units can score BPs for the primary mission if they are not falling back or pinned. Vehicles must be mobile to score.
If you have two or more such units in your opponents deployment zone - 8 BPs
If you have one such unit in your opponents deployment zone - 4 BPs
If your opponent has no such units in your deployment zone - 8 BPs
If your opponent has one such unit in your deployment zone - 4 BPs
Secondary Mission: After the players have picked their deployment zone but before any units are placed, each player, beginning with the first must place one objective marker in no-mans-land at least 12" from the board edges or the other marker. These objectives are captured as per normal rules (non-vehicle troop choices within 3")
Each objective marker is worth 2 BPs if controlled. If a marker is contested or has no units within 3", both players gain 1 BP each.
Setup - As per Pitched Battle (BGB page 92).
Game length - standard (5-7 turns).

Note that time is against you - even if you table your opponent they may still claim battle points if they have prevented you from acheiving all objectives - its not an automatic 20-0!!


So that's the first one guys and a teaser of what's to come. All missions are constructed in a similar way (with a primary and a secondary objective) so that there is a total of 20 points on offer that will always be split - ie if the players add their BPs together at the end of the battle it will always equal 20, giving you a quick error-check!
Hope that's given you a taste for more, I'll be putting the others up about once a week and more details will be sent out with the packs when everything is finalised.

See you all soon - C_C

When it says "non-vehicle troop choices" for capturing objectives, does that mean if you have a troop choice inside a vehicle, they can't capture unless they disembark?

looking at what you guys are brining I think I'm in for a pounding! It's the fun that counts.

That first mission sounds pretty cool.

@SilverMK2 - no, troop choices in a vehicle can capture objectives as normal (BGB p90 I think)

@covenant84 - this mission obviously favours fast armies, others will favour slower shooty armies, I've tried to make them as balanced as possible...

I don't know why I asked that, perhaps it was just my early morning brain

This mission sounds tons of fun - very hectic! Good job! Thinking my Mechanised orks will be alright for this one (-:

PS - scared of that template force! Phil you're right about the vendettas.

Taloncab wrote:This mission sounds tons of fun - very hectic! Good job! Thinking my Mechanised orks will be alright for this one (-:

PS - scared of that template force! Phil you're right about the vendettas.

i'm going to try and improve the template list for more funnage

i really wish i could justify 9 griffons

i though only i ever fielded griffons, only griffons at grand doubles were in mine and talons army. they pwoned scouts of objectives

I've just started building something I hope to field in August. It is looking fun at the moment - I just hope it is worth it (in game terms - I think it will be a cool model regardless ).

Just had some details through from Nottingham - the bar is open until 10pm on the saturday (and if there's enough people wanting drinks to cover the staff costs they just stay open longer apparently )

Also, the bar's open until 10pm on the friday if anyone is getting there on the friday night and wants to go for a drink. Result

Finally, food for the saturday works as follows - we will need to place our orders by 1230 for a 1430 lunch. I'm trying to find out if they're saving a couple of tables for us or whether we just pile in. The timing is going to mean 3 games before lunch, with one game and presentations done after.

If I can get menus and a float sorted, are people OK with ordering when you register at 10? I can sort out change then and put a bulk order in without you guys having to leave the games. Let me know what you think...

Sounds good to me.

/\ seconded

@ArbitorIan I was always in favour of the slannesh daemons army myself. Think they maybe your best bet for the torni.

Perfect, yeah.

ceorron wrote:@ArbitorIan I was always in favour of the slannesh daemons army myself. Think they maybe your best bet for the torni.

Seconded - plus it levels up the Chaos/Imperial forces for the 14th Black Crusade I hope will take place on the Sunday

Bugger it

I've just had another e-mail from Warhammer World about the food.

Apparently Bugman's kitchen can only cook 12 orders at a time so they can't cater for us all at once and are unhappy about us monopolising the kitchen.

That leaves us with 3 options:

1. Risk it and just wander in and queue up.
2. Arrange a buffet and/or pizzas with them (they are sending me the details)
3. Eat with the other tournament group who have already booked their food (the problem with this is we would need to eat what they have picked and would have to eat at the same time)

any thoughts??

Option 2 sounds the best I think, we don't want to be eating in the middle of a round or anything. People would chat tactics over the grub, hahah!