Sons Of Orar Army

Over the last couple of months I have been thinking about starting a Sons of Orar army Painted and converted to a similar standard to my Golden Demon entry for 2009...

This is no small task as you probably have guessed.

I decided to start with the land raider battle tank. I have always wanted to do some serious converting with plasticard on this kit and here was my excuse. I first filled in all the wholes and dips in the areas I wanted to convert with milliput (a fast setting 2 part putty like green stuff) after this had set I set about sanding down the sides in preparation for the new armour plates. Once I had finished the sanding I cut out the plates mainly by eye then trimmed them down to the exact size with a craft knife once they were on the model. I then used some thin strips around the edges to add a bit of decoration.

Unfortunately I got so carried away when I was modelling I forgot to take any pics... but anyway here are a few from when I started the painting.









This is after the basecoat spray of blood red and the first highlight of orangey red (all spraying is done with an air brush) note the highlights run down under and around the rivets and weld join to simulate water and sun bleaching. This is also where the rust streaks will eventually go.






after the second highlight and low lights had been applied






These pics show the initial grey tones on the white areas, then the final very light grey tone. Note the very light orange highlight along near the road wheels where the paint would get bleached and scratched by the mud and dirt. Also have a look at some of the battle damage.






I had the idea to do some Latin script on the side of the tank but unfortunately it didn’t turn out quite the way I planned so after 3 hours work (the 2nd picture) I decided to spray over the text in white. This was a hard choice but it was for the better. I think if I do text on a tank again then I will have to laser etch the parts to get it exactly right






Work finished for the day (15th jan 2010). The sons of Orar emblem stencilled on though not as neatly as I would have hoped, though that can be easily cleared up with a bit of brushwork.






after tidying up the iconography and carefully painting on the text.







Another shot of some of the heraldry... not bad






After sponging on the brown and black mix on the battle damage, and then a light sponging of boltgun metal to represent more recent paint chips.






some rust streaks were added with thinned down artists oils






2 more shots of the wear and tear on the vehicle






The gold highlights are done. Tomorrow I plan to move on to some more detailed and refined weathering and details. I may even start on the weapons.






The results at the end of Saturday(16th jan). Definitely taking shape. The bearings were painted with thinned down inks to replicate oil and grease.









Some detailed shot of today’s improvements. Note the soot on the engine vents.






A view of the rear of the tank. I discoloured the exhausts with yellows, greens and purples to replicate the heat from the engine but unfortunately I over did the soot a bit so it isnt that clear but that can be easily improved.



After the lascannons had been painted and assembled. The area around the right sponson had to be filled with milliput because of the gap between the components. The heat residue was built up with layers of washed: gryphon sepia, then green, the blue, then purple. They were built up in stepped layers.

Super cool. I'm not generally a fan of dirty and weathered paint jobs, but that's done really well so I'll make an exception in this case.

nice one chris!! i seriously think you should incorporate some of the latin into that raider, its AWSOME!!

I know :S for some reason I thought it was scruffy but then I looked in the codex at Calgar’s raider and it’s neater than the script on that. Maybe on the sponsons... it'll give me something to do before my weathering powders arrive so i can do the mud.

Wow, exceptional work.

Can't wait to see more.

Excellent work as always. Question did you use the techniques form the forge world book or entirely of your own accord? Just curious as I love the work.

I really like the text you should haev stuck with it

WOW that is so AWESOME good sir

One word: Awesome. I was thinking about starting a Sons of Orar army, but wasn't convinced seeing as they have basically no fluff. Anyway, I seriously love their colour scheme. I'll definitely be watching this thread

Love it, can not wait to see more.

Amazing. The weathering looks great. The symbol is very precise.

Did you detail the interior?

Very sweet work as always. I have to ask the same question as million, did you paint the interior?

I'll be sponging some rust and damage onto my tanks soon!! Hope to see more of your great work on here!

Wow! That looks great, good work

Love your LR very realistic! but I must ask, what paints did you use on the sponged battle damage? and also, what kind of sponge do you use? because Iv'e heard people using the sponge thing that come from the blisters and such, so just wondering

Thanks for all the compliments guys!

As to your questions:

I got the forgeworld model master class at GD 2008 and have used it as my tank painting bible ever since though it is not my only inspiration. I often look at rusty vehicles when I’m out and about and try and mimic the real things as much as possible.

I noticed some of you have been sceptical of the sons of Orar as they lack "fluff" I had the same view before I did my GD piece, it’s amazing how far that extra little bit of gold on a model goes to making it an awesome model.

After a long time of inner turmoil I decided not to do the interior... I just couldn't put of doing the outside any longer.

the sponge I use is a selection of the stuff from the blisters and some spare bits from my carry case... you can use any sponge its worth experimenting as you can get all sorts of different effects from different types of sponges it’s also worth trying things like wire wool and small bets of coarse carpet.

Awesome....love the weathering.

Took a few more pics this evening.


I didn’t have a huge amount of modelling time today so all I got round to doing was tidying the paint up where I had puttied around the sponson. Should be finished by Saturday if my weathering powders arrive...



Here are a couple of pics of my first Sons of Orar marine... my entry into golden demon UK 2009 which finalised in the single mini category


And here are some of my ideas I was experimenting with over the Christmas break, I quite like how the terminators are looking though the sergeant's torso is a little too far forward so may need some re-positioning.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to disqualify that first marine. I'm pretty sure that's not the base he came with.

hahaha lol... not yet game legal but a proper gaming base of a similar standard is on its way don't you worry

Nice stuff, keep it up

I love it. Where did you get the head of the terminator on the right? is it the resin black templar one? its sweet.

Also, I thought your original Sons of Orar marine (which I study as an example of an amazing paintjob) had a gas mask thing on his face? is this just a different head on the same model?

Keep on rockin.

wow very impressive work =D

its nice to see someone do a successor chapter from the Ultrasmurfs rather than just another Ultrasmurfs SM player

See now I have to officially declare that I hate you.

These models look soo nice, I love armies that look really gritty and worn down adn these are perfect. Those Termie's are definatly going to look amazing.

Great stuff mate
Lookforward to seeing more

p.s I dont really hate you if anything i <3 you for doign a really really nice army so far

The supplies have arrived and painting can continue!


The rest of the tank was weathered with oil paints to get a rusty effect then sprayed with white spirit thinners to make the rust blotches spread out naturally. I then dried excess white spirit off with a hair dryer. Though the hairdryer seems to be the main subject of the photo rather than the tank.


The vehicle was covered in a light weathering power which was fixed in place with acrylic thinners


A mud mix was created with a mix of various colour pigments, plaster and acrylic resin. It was generously applied to the tracks and surrounding area (though I may have got a little carried away)


A layer of accumulated dust was painted onto the model by brushing bleached bone paint into the cracks and join on the vehicle's armour.

@s.j.mccartney: the original model had a gas mask but shortly before GD I learnt how to use tones on faces e.g. purples near the nose/eyes etc. so I removed the gas mask head and replaced it with this one. Apart from that all is how it originally was.

Holy. Crap. That Land Raider is just amazing. I love quality airbrush, painting, and weathering like that. Solid details, too! I am going to blatantly steal as much of this as I can.

It is fantastic. The way the paint has faded through all the weathering is awe inspiring. I love it. If you're going to paint a full army though I suggest you do it two tanks at a time. So you can work the same techniques on both models. It'll keep the army uniform and you'll have an assembly line going on.

I think I need to get that forgeworld masterclass book!

That is so beautiful that I want to go red. And im a DA guy.

Awesome work, you're a terrific painter.

The skin on the sergeant is among the best I've seen, it's simply great.

I see I have found someone else who uses Tamiya paints I find them better than the GW citadel ones. Do you have any tips for using weathering powders I bet you would make an excellent tutorial for the dakka site

Thanks for the comments guys

Keep 'em coming!

Here are a few replies before today’s progress on the project.

@ s.j.mccartney I would do my vehicles at the same time, in fact I always plan to, but I tend to rush the second one as I start to get bored and want to move on. So I do some other modelling like the infantry I was working on today then do the second vehicle after a few weeks or so. This works out quite well as I can spend time analysing the vehicle for errors so I can improve on the next one.

to quote Fulgrim's attainment of perfection 'That which causes we trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.'

@ DC_Ravenor I use GW paints for all brush work but tamiya paint are absolutely brilliant for use in an airbrush so I use both... I cannot use tamiya for any detailed work as it dries so fast.


Here are some of the converted shoulder pads I made today. The top image shows the shoulder pads with spall sheet of plasticard glued on, the second show the complete set, fully trimmed and filed to shape.


Some of the bases I made covered with crushed plaster. Once painted this looks exactly like scale crushed concrete.



The army so far. The tactical marines shoulder pads have come out really nicely.


The tactical marines after receiving a basecoat. I applied this with the airbrush, I using the mid tones for the finished models. (A mid red and a light grey)


The bases after painting. I unevenly sprayed a mid then light grey over the surfaces. A little extra shading will be created with a dusting of weathering powder, the same power will be applied to the lower legs of the marine to tie him in neatly with the base.


The marines’ heads and backpacks were sprayed separately from the models themselves for easy painting.

I also finished the landraider today. Some pics will be uploaded tomorrow.

Cheers guys

Wow. I am stealing that plaster idea. Looks awesome!

I've never seen shoulder pad trims done like that before. An interesting idea which I may steal. I love the extra protection given by the extended rims on some of the CSM shoulder pads, and never have enough of them.

May have a go at creating some using your method

@ em_en_oh_pee the best plaster to use I found is the plaster cast scenery you can get on eBay. All you do is crush it up in a vice or with a hammer. The great thing about cast plaster is the mouldings, when crushed up you can see some of the original details on some of the pieces which makes it look really realistic.




As promised here are some pictures of the finished landraider... well it’s finished apart from the storm bolter and I haven’t added a crewman.


The finished bases


The marines after a coat of Baal red wash. I was planning on getting all 10 done today but quickly abandoned the idea going for quality over quantity.


The marines part way through the painting process. Definitely starting to take shape.


Where it all happens... though in a state of mid-project delusion. Note that the paints you see is under half my collection



Some shots of the first 4 marines, 4 down 16 to 26 to go I haven’t decided whether to have 2 of 3 tactical squads.


The marines in front of the LR.

Cheers guys

Whew! Those look more like WWII models than 40K models. Seriously, great weathering. Not everyone likes this, but I think the realistic looking stuff looks way better than the cartoony stuff.

Good work and thanks for the tip. I have some cast plaster at my disposal, so that will work well.

Some outstanding work there. Very impressive.

Amazing look to your models, looks like they've been fighting for months with no downtime. Very cool.

incredible, how do you cut the exess plasticard off the shoulderpad?

When I've done it in the past, I just used a Dremel. Works rather well for me.

And now I shall nit pick, and point out the studded shoulder pads are on the wrong side. Boooooo! The army continues to look nice however, with really well done weather effects.

I love what you've got, you're work is just awesome.

Nice weathering job, those shoulderpads look great!

As to the choice of weathered or cartoony, its completely personal choice. For my Mentors vanilla army, I'll be doing them pristine, but thats because:

A: I am a virgin painter (And havent the faintest clue how to do weathering)
B: White and green when pristine (poem?) looks awesome to me
C: It is my idea of what a space marine is, proud and clean, but you can just as easily say he is in the middle of a long campaign, or the end, or the beginning.

It would be a shame to waste that talent though, so I applaud you on the choice of rusty, worn marines!

Keep going!

Unbelievably awesome!

Easily some of the best (if not THE best) weathered/battle damaged marines I've ever seen.

Wow just WOW. I absolutely love the land raider and the marines. I can not wait to see this army grow.

real great stuff there sons!

I envy your skill!

DC

I notice some of you are interested in the fact that I weather my marines. I shall explain why.

It is true that almost all chapters constantly tend all there war gear so it looks and works perfectly. But this is in-between battles when they have time to return to their cruisers and battle barges etc. the sons of Orar are one of these chapters which are meticulous about the upkeep of their war gear. But in a long running campaign when marines cannot return to the arming rooms of their starships their armour will get dusty and worn, especially when many worlds in the galaxy have hostile environments. the planet my Sons of Orar are currently engaged on (for my colour scheme) is a fierce desert world with occasionally heavy storms of acidic rain which turns the dust on the planet into a thick cloying mud, like that which has dried on the Landraider. As we know adamantium does not rust but paint on armour can discolour and get grimy with time spent in such an environment.

@ Captain Shrike : to cut away the excess plasticard around the outside of the shoulder pad I just used a sharp craft knife. the instead is a bit harder... the best way is with a small rotary file though you can use a knife, this tends to take up more time than with the file and can get really fiddly at times.

@ Aduro : sarcasm or not the knobbly shoulder pad is always on the left shoulder of Corvus-pattern armour so HA!!

@ The happy reaper : 'cartoony' or clean armour is great to start off with, I’d love to see some pics of your models. If you want any painting tips feel free to ask and if you want I can teach you some simple weathering techniques e.g. paint chips, these are really simple and can give each model a bit more character without making them look like they've been in combat without respite for years. If you want some help or tip just private message me.

Who thinks I should try and do a company of these marines? No promises, it’s still in the idea stage... but who knows...

Is the LR missing access points?

Yeah, but I’m not really bothered... I’m more a painter than a gamer and anyway Calgar’s LR doesn't have side doors...

Nicely done.
I like how the LR turned out. The vertical rust-like gradients worked well as a base especially after adding the additional weathering.

Keep it up!

SONS of ORAR wrote:@ Aduro : sarcasm or not the knobbly shoulder pad is always on the left shoulder of Corvus-pattern armour so HA!!

Are you sure? I could have sworn the old fluff on the studded shoulders were that they were weaker, but much easier to mass produce during the times when thousands of Marines were being created during the crusades. As a result, the studded shoulder pad was always on the right arm, and Marines were trained to walk sidewaysish into the fight, facing their left shoulder at the enemy, which makes more sense when you consider how they hold and fire their Bolters.

I don't really care that much, as I'll always make changes to make something look cooler if I don't care for particular fluff (my t-fex looks nothing like the picture in the codex). I just like poking fun at people, especially the ones with Really Cool stuff.

That may be so with Mark 5 "Heresy Armour" which came into production just before the Horus heresy (hence the name). This was a series of plates of ceramic, plast-steel and adamantium which were bolted on top of each other. Corvus or mark 6 armour came after the heresy and is a mixture of different armours mixed up in a way. But the knobbly shoulder pad is definitely on the left. Have a look at http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_armor#Mark_6_.22Corvus_Armor.22

I always mix in a bit of Acrylic Retarder to make the paints last that bit longer and Tamiya makes their own one as well but still your mini's are looking fab.

[DC]R

Definitely love the weathering going on here..

Wish I had the skill to do what you've done with your marines !

so young yet so talented, fifteen years of painting and i can just paint a face! sigh! but at least I can be inspired to keep on going every time I see this work! not just good, but beautiful, each model is really a work of art!

The work is fabulous

My only criticism would be I think you've overdone the weathering a bit. The technique is great but this does not look like some techmarine's pride and joy.

Real tanks never look quite that bad when they're in use - they get that way by being left to rot for a few years!

Chimera_Calvin wrote:The work is fabulous

My only criticism would be I think you've overdone the weathering a bit. The technique is great but this does not look like some techmarine's pride and joy.

Real tanks never look quite that bad when they're in use - they get that way by being left to rot for a few years!

You can always explain things in the fluff-world of 40k.

E.g. A salt heavy atmosphere on one planet - advanced rusting on normal metals, such as Leman Russes

Acidic rain is a good reason as any.

@ Orar, thanks, I'll be sure to send you some pics, and call on you for advice once I start painting them (soon hopefully.) I might take you up on those weathering techniques later too.

I have an idea for an old dreadnought (the main reason i'm starting 40k) who refuses to allow minor damage to be repaired, only his armor sealed.

An idea for the future.

I'm highly anticipating those termies btw.

@ Chimera_Calvin : I see where you're coming from. I don’t think the dust or rust is OTT as I studied a number of German tanks from battles in Russia in the second world war which were in a pretty messy shape, but still operational and you have to remember that many imperial planets have very harsh conditions compared to Earth, e.g. Vraks. Though I was thinking about the mud and from the amount of it up the sides it must have travelled through mud about 6 feet deep. This is not unheard of for a LR but I truth if I were doing it again then I would only have about a cm of that thick mud at most up the sides and not do quite so many rust streaks( it is adamantium after all! ). Like my other LR I have pics of on Dakka Dakka.

Maybe things have changed/been retconned/etc. but:





I've always seen and remembered the studded shoulder-pad being on the left too...

I have been showing off this army at my shop. Good work and keep it up. If you put the shoulderpads on one side or the other, its your choice. Different chapters do different things. I think it looks gorgeous!

I honestly think people convert and paint models for many different reasons. Some people want the models to represent the fluff to a very high degree and some, like sons of orar, are obviously intent on extending and perfecting their painting skills. I feel he has definitely acheived something awesome with these marines and what shoulder pad is on which shoulder is not that important.

keep up the good work

cheers
Blackhand

Do it for Orar, get an entire company painted! There would be few things that would look sweeter than 100 marines and tanks and dreads and a t-hawk painted up to this standard!! Don't give up!

I for one am becoming more and morea fan of these Orars, and definately can not wait for updates. I have been watching this thread like I do my favorite blog sites.

Sorry about the lack of updates with pictures so far this week. Thing have been pretty busy with college. Anyway had about an hour modelling today so here are some pics.


Here are some pics of my veteran sergeant for my first tactical squad. The 3 hours of cutting and sticking plasticard seem to have paid off. I was trying to get a Pre-heresy look to the armour and its coming out quite well.


Here is another of my ongoing projects you might like.

Yowch is that heat cracking on his legs. Dumb question but who are these Marines fighting? If it's mean't to be 'nids they'd have claw scratches and acid burns Necrons they'd just have bits missing etc.....Also it's probably worth thinking about where a Marine would get hit. Most damage would probably be on the shoulder pads and be a vertical blow as thats where people hit each other...Hope that helps. These are awesome and I'd love a few weathering battle damage how to's at some point and thats a great hint with the plaster for bases. I also can't wait to see more Renegade stuff!

No, it isn’t heat cracking. I copied it from one of the pieces of art in the old SM codex. It’s meant to look like bands of armour on his legs. It does look a bit silly at the moment as I haven't 'knocked back' the colour with any washes. And thanks for the tip ... I haven’t really thought about who they're fighting, probably renegades with a few chaos marines.

can I have the recipe for the red please orar?

thanks

DC

Amazing work so far, truly inspirational techniques, I might take a few of those ideas for my CSM though I know I'm not as awesome a painter as you obviously are.

One thing I will say, if you do decide to do Latin script on tanks, you should aim for some real Latin rather than the faux Latin of the 'Ipso dolore' which is not Latin, but a miscopy of an old text. It works great if you want filler text which doesn't attract the eye, but finding some real Latin which means something would (in my own opinion) be more interesting.

There are passages from Caesar's War diaries here: http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_text_caesar_latin_gallic.htm and if you fancy parts of nature, the works of Pliny the Elder here http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/pliny_the_Elder/home.html have all sorts of different chapters which can provide you with texts.

Just an idea, I'm an Ancient History student so a bit of a stickler for such things Feel free to ignore me, just thought you might enjoy adding something extra.

Keep up the good work and I will be watching your Chapter's progress with interest.

Brilliant weathering effects.

Brilliant job on these. I'd hate to face these on a table top; my guard would develop an inferiority complex.

@ BishopGore : that is THE best link I’ve ever received for painting! Thank you very much now I can actually use REAL Latin rather than some bad interpretation from a Google search.

This thread has very quickly joined my subscribed list - fantastic work, very, very impressive!

I love the ribbed armour on the legs great stuff.

I think these are awesome! I can't wait to see what else you can do.

Here is a bit of a painting tutorial


The model has been spray basecoated with red. You can get this colour by mixing mechrite and blood red 1:1 it was then washed with Baal red and the white, gold and metal bit basecoated and highlighted.


After the first highlight of the mechrite red: blood red: blazing orange mix (2:1:1) this was roughly painted onto the areas which were to be highlighted and scratched.


Second highlight complete; mechrite red: blood red: blazing orange: bronzed flesh mix (1:2:1:3)


Helmet and backpack attached.


After the first wash of Devlan mud. I wiped some of the wash off the helmet and shoulder pads with my finger as these areas wouldn’t get as dirty.


After a wash of gryphon sepia into the areas which would receive the most dirt. The model is bases at this stage.


The model almost finished... just a few last things to touch ups, and of course the bolter. The eyes need to be redefined, and some further shading is needed on the gold and steel areas.

I think the best part of that tutorial is how your fingers get dirtier and more paint covered at each stage.

lol i was thinking that too. Shows it acually is me doing the painting

gahaha Aduro, you took the words right out of my mouth thinking exactly the same.

Wounderfull marines you got mate

I Like very much.

Just curious on what airbrush system do you use? would you reccomend it to perhaps beginner > average airbrusher?

i really like the weathering you have done with your model, looks great

Yeah, I want an airbrush too. Recommendations would be nice!

Your Sons of Orar are the biz. I've never read any fluff about them though...I should look them up on lexicanum.

Keep up the great work!

freeeeeeeeeesh

Here is a link to a good middle of the range airbrush similar to mine on amazon. This is a good starter airbrush as everything you need is in the kit and it's pretty cheap as they go. The best paints to use are tamiya acrylics thinned with tamiya acrylic thinner. I bought a similar set about a year ago from the same seller.

: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SprayMaster-Complete-Professional-Airbrush-Airbrushes/dp/B000WBCFLO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=toys&qid=1264881759&sr=8-3 :

I'm definitely looking forward to some more of these tutorials....The tip about plaster was great too!

Thanks for the link, will be purchasing the airbrush shortly.

No probs let me know how you find it once it’s arrived.

Here’s a tip. Always keep your airbrush clean: Don’t be afraid to take it to pieces occasionally to clean out the insides. If you do get any paint that dries inside you can use a spot of nail polish remover which acts like a mild paint-stripper.

And remember to upload some pics so we can see your handy work

Hah, cheers mate and thanks for the tips on the airbrush, i will get it eventually and ill post some pictures. (sorry if im derailing the thread) more sons of orar pics!!

These are absolutely fantastic. I just have one question.

The Marine on the first page, that you said was in GD...What is that thing on his stomach? It looks rather nurgle-ish, like part of Typhus's Destroyer hive.

@ TempusCorvus: the thing on his stomach is half a Dark Angels' incense burner. I don’t know what it would be in reality... just a decoration I suppose... just put it on 'cause it looks cool and made him unique.


The tactical squad so far... I didn't get as much time as I would have liked painting this weekend, but anyway this is what I got done. All that need to be done now to them is painting and adding the bolters, re-defining a couple of highlights and checking to make sure all the models are uniform. Oh, and of course the marine with the plasma cannon!

If all goes to plan there should be a nice 'pic-heavy' update coming along in the next couple of days.

if you have any questions, want to ask for tips or give any tips feel free to comment.

Love it. Keep up the work man. You are quickly becoming one of my favorites to watch.

these are amazing. they are so gritty. excellent work

Just a quick update... the tactical squad is finished apart from the plasma cannon guy and all is looking good

I’ll put up all the pics tomorrow buts here are 2 for now:


I also found this AWESOME site: http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,galerry.php

You may have seen it already but the quality of that sculpting and converting blows me away!

These are incredible!!! also i love the way ur hands got dirtier as the pics went on...lol

But these are absolutely astounding
love it...subscribed!!


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BTW how long does it take you to paint a marine comme ca??

I like your marines, you've got a great battle-worn look to them. I will keep an eye out for more!

I am very impressed with the work you have done and my desk usualy looks like that on my long projects.

That Land Raider looks brilliant as if it's been grimly advancing through the enemy lines at a slow grim remorseless unyielding pace for several months, without retreat and without pause.

As promised here are some more pics


Some shots of the finished marines... I say finished but I have just noticed the eyes are too dark so will need some more highlighting


Here is a good pic showing off the hand painted designs on the shoulder pads.


The re-based sergeant ready for battle!





Just thought you might like to have a look at this, it’s an original print of the SM codex artwork I won at GD UK 2008 for my entry in the 16 and under artwork category. The piece is signed by the complete studio team (you can clearly see john Blanche’s signature in the bottom left). You can also see my certificate for my 2009 GD entry (the sergeant above)

All this was achieved when I was 15 and 16... I’m 17 tomorrow so I have to up the standard again this year

...well I’ll try lol...

But I’ll need your support... thanks for all the comments so far! Keep them coming I love to hear what you think of my stuff


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sorry about the dusty fluffy toy dog... only just noticed him

...wait a minute...your under 16!!!! or around that age... HOLY S(%T!!! damn man I can't wait to see what you will be knocking out in 10 years or so!!!

well 17 tomorrow

SONS of ORAR wrote:well 17 tomorrow

welcome to my hate mail list:(..... JK wow man just WOW

F*** it, i'm 15 now and am nowhere near that level...hell...

Got the terminators sprayed this evening! Here they are ready to receive a nice coat of Baal red wash

Thats pretty cool, watching this one.

Have to agree with ol' Emp...

Only 16?

(OK, soon 17!)

Your stuff is amazingly good already...

You will be regularly winning Gold Daemons in short order at this pace!

Happy Birthday! For whenever it is/was...

And theres me thinking you were some crusty middle age man who had developed years of expertise.......You make me sick with envy. My painting is like a drunk spider that ran through a bottle of ink...

DON'T EVER LOSE YOUR TALENT.

Fantastic work. I love it that you're not afraid to rebase your veteran srg. Its so cool that you have a golden daemon model as a troops choice in your army!!

By the way, where did you get that terminator head? on the last picture he's the second dude from the right. It looks like a grey knight terminator. Very cool.

im jelous of that artwork, thatd be priceless on ebay in a few editions

Why? are you so good at painting!
i'm 15 and i am no where near that good.

fething fantastic, i just wasted 20 minutes looking at these pics!

mattyrm wrote:fething fantastic, i just wasted 20 minutes looking at these pics!

I wouldn't call it wasted time Unless there was a supermodel waiting in bed for you and she had to leave forever in a few hours time. Then yes, you wasted that precious time!

Keep up the good work Orar, you'll go far I have no doubt.

Man, thats unbelievable work!

I just saw 'Sons of Orar' out of the corner of my eye, and as I've just split my army Crimson Fists / Sons of Orar, it made me click on it very quickly indeed, and by goodness am I glad I did!!

Great inspiration for what I have yet to do with my army(/s)

Dont think I will go into just as much detail as you have, but its given me motovation none the less!

Where does the head of the terminator w/ the heavy flamer come from, it looks like it has no face! But the work here looks like you have meticulously spent hours on them...am i right??

Imp. Monkey

To answer some questions:

a lot of you ask why I’m so good at painting for my age... it’s all just experimenting and thinking about how to paint something from real life really small... e.g. with my tanks I look at rust on real vehicles and try to replicate it on my minis.. This is easy to do... as in you don’t have to go and stare at rusty cars all day long... just quick glances at stuff you pass when you're out and about is sufficient usually.

and some of you 15 year olds are saying that you can’t paint like me... that's because I’m 17 not 15... Trust me when I was 15 my painting was about the level of yours, there's plenty of time to practice, experiment and improve.


This is my DA army I painted when I was 15... The pic isn't great quality but you can see my standard of painting then... I sold this army just before Christmas

@ Imperial Monkey : it takes about 1 to 3 hours to paint each model, and the Heavy flamer terminator head comes from a Bretonian knight with the plumes filed off...

@ s.j.mccartney : that is a normal terminator head but with the sides cut off at angles... I can do a tutorial on how to make them if you want, it’s quite simple

I like your thinking on that, and as said definately look forward to seeing what you do over these next few years. I see demons in your future.!!!

If they are pre heresy heads... http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Crusade/index.php?showtopic=89

Here is the link.

Now I'm jealous. 17? You paint with 40 years of experience at the age of 17? You're either lying or a complete -word not dakka friendly-...

But in a good way!

I guess you don't need to see to shoot when you have a heavy flamer!

well i just started painting XD. i've been playing for nine years! (yes i have been playing since i was six.)

Holy crap i am 17 too and my painting level is below your two year old one ... i am really ashamed here as i try my best on salamander army i am currently working on and i dont really catch up with the quality presented here... (and yes i have to work on my english too... )

These models are very nice looking

I bought a chaplain on Saturday and started on him today! I couldn’t stop myself staring such an awesome model so the terminators are going to have to wait for a bit.


Here he is after about 4 hours solid painting not bad huh?


Some more pics of him so far. my only problem with him is the imperial eagle on his head... this needs to be tidied up but is less than 2mm across so that should be fun.


Also had a quick crack at the heavy flamer terminator. You can see the head a lot better with a coat of paint. The model has only received the basecoat so far.


Here are some pics of my imperial thunderbolt pilot. Just thought you might like to have a look at him if you hadn't seen him already.

Thanks for all your comments! Keep them coming!

and feel free to PM me if you want

well done, very nice!
cant wait to see the chap finished!
whats the receipe for that white!!! damn...

Did you paint all the sutures in the Chaplain's skull freehand, or did the model already have them? Either way, that looks amazing.

is that terminator on a 28mm base or is that just temporary?

also kick@$$ chaplain!!

I think its already on the mini.

All of his Regular Termies are on 28mm bases atm.

Must be doing a "proper job" on the bases then.

I say now as I have said before...amazing work and I agree that chaplain is one pimpin good model and you are definately doing him justice.

Awesome work once again, good thing your out of Uk youngbloods cause this is my last year and I want a chance.

Here is the recipe for the white.

1. Basecoat the areas a mix of Iyanden dark sun, Graveyard Earth and rotting flesh 1:5:1

2. Add a brush of Skull White to the mix and some more rotting flesh if you want.

3. carry on adding skull white (a brush at a time) and occasionally some bleached bone or rotting flesh. Add 1 more brush of skull white for every highlight. I used about 15 tonnes for the skull helmet.

The smaller the difference between the paint tones the smoother the painting looks... (There’s a painting competition tip)

Just ordered 2 of the new plastic venerable dreadnoughts: absolutely awesome models!


Here is a pic of the beast if you haven’t seen them already... it’s released on the 6th of March



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here's the link to the page on the GW site http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod630020a&utm_source=neissue84&utm_medium=email&utm_term=warhammer-40000&utm_content=textlinkbody&utm_campaign=NE-Issue-84-BattleMissions

The more I see it the more I...


... actually start to like it!

Of course, I'm sure I'll REALLY like it once I see YOU paint it up!

And I'll have to leave off the list o' battlefields and such, but still, it is growing on me...

AND... 4x exhaust stacks for the win!

Alpharius wrote:The more I see it the more I...


... actually start to like it!

Of course, I'm sure I'll REALLY like it once I see YOU paint it up!

And I'll have to leave off the list o' battlefields and such, but still, it is growing on me...

AND... 4x exhaust stacks for the win!

I agree plus something like that would work great for pre-heresy.

Loving your work as usual Sons.

On the Dreadnaught, it looks great and personally I'm looking at it for a possible Grey knight dready but I've heard ruleswise that a Venerable just doesn't stand up to a vanilla dread in terms of flexibility or value for points. Are you gonna run him as a Venerable or normal? Or are you less worried about how it plays then how it looks?

Cheers
BLACKHAND

Sons congratulations that is some truly beautiful work you have there, like others have said probably one of the best seen in a while now. I especially liked the conversions on the LR, subtle but very effective. One question, and you must excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is the process for basing your models? What I mean is how do ensure they will fit properly? Also do you pin them as well as glue them to the base or just glue?

LOve tha painting man!
going to start own space marine army, and this really shows how fun they van be to paint

LFF666

Your work is extraordinary. your attention to detail and believability is admirable. keep up the good work!

wow amazing work bro, any tuts on how you did the weathering effects? sorry if i mised it, didnt read all 5 pages fully.

Here are some more pics of the chaplain.


I had a bit of time yesterday evening so I got the parchment done. Many of you are asking for tutorials, they are on their way but as you may already know I’m at college 5 days a week and have work to do most evenings so I can’t do as much painting and blogging as I and you may have liked.

As to the questions:

@ Lennysmash:
1. I paint the top of the base with PVA glue and sprinkle it with crushed plaster scenery.

2. The bases are sprayed with chaos black then various shades of grey.

3. I use some SM legs to crush the plaster in the correct place and the superglue on the model.

4. The base and model are dusted with some weathering powder.

@ BLACKHAND: I’m not sure at the moment. I bought them 'cause they were so cool. I’ll choose when I work out an army list.

@ Mafty: I will put up a tutorial as soon as possible . There should be some tip in the article but I’ll do a proper one soon

He's looking great!

I'm running another blog in tandom with this one. its in the early stages so far but if you want to have a look go to: http://sonsoforar.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/40k-projects-blog/

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The first terminator is finished!


I think it looks pretty cool, especially with the weathering powder dusted on the lower legs; it ties the model in really well with the base. Have a look at the purity seal on his right shoulder pad; it was an experiment with some off cuts of etched brass, came of rather nicely.

There should be a lot more nice, big, tasty updates next week as its half term break

That if my lecturers don’t decide to give me a pile of coursework to do...

Awesome dude. Im astounded by your skill. Just wish i could get my arse into gear and start doing more advanced painting and modelling.

A bit OT, but what ASs levels are you doing (assuming that's what you're doing, of course!!)?

I love how he came out honestly. I appriate the fact of the dirtiness of the model as if he is wadeing through battle. the purple tint to the end of the weapon showing that his weapons humidity is up and ready to rock out and kill some scum. All around AMAZING I am loving this progect blog.

That reminds me of a man who painted these realistic chaos miniatures. He used lots of weathering techniques and it looks super realistic and GREAT! Same goes to you, great job!

I apologise for the double post!

Nifty loving the War of the Roses helm. What kits it from by the way?

Great weathering!

what article are you talking about? link?

Love the helmet on the Terminator! The new dread is quite nice actually. Im really looking forward to people putting some work into those.

Grit is good. And there is plenty of it in this project. I'm really happy to see the weathering movement reach more people in the wargaming section of the hobby.

Fantastic looking army so far.

@ Vitruvian XVII : to answer your off topic question, I am studying maths, physics, chemistry and geography. I was taking art as well but it was too much work and I didn't particularly like the course provided by the college so I dropped it. I’m looking at studying material science/engineering at uni so I need some pretty good grades. Just out of interest why do you ask?

Now on to some 'on topic' questions

@ Llamahead : to be honest with you I do not have a clue. A friend of mine allowed me to raid his bits box about 3 years ago and that when I got it. I think its Bretonian though I’m not sure (I filed off all the crests and plumes etc).

@ Mafty : I did mention a couple of bits and bobs in this blog (that’s why I didn't link it) though I will put up a tutorial as soon as possible. In the meantime feel free to PM me or comment on this blog if you want to know anything in particular.

I applied the first 4 tone to all the bone areas on the model this evening. I also decided to paint the upper legs red to tie him in with the army. I intended to spend more time on this model (it being a character) than my other models so I am very pleased with it so far (after about 8 hours work). I’m planning to spend at least a month on my GD piece for this year so if this is what I can crack out in a couple of hours things are looking promising for this year. I just need to find "the" model. Something I won’t get bored of after a week's painting. But anyway that’s for later, in the meantime I’ve got this army to do... and here are some pics of today's work.


Definitely starting to take shape.

Well the Chaplain in Terminator Armour seems a nice idea. How about rather than a single model a diorama a last stand would be nice a hard pressed heroic mob of Orks fighting of the hordes of surrounding barbarian Marines or something like that!

I like how youve painted some of the armour on the Chapie in the color of your army i might do that myself =D

I was thinking maybe doing a terminator librarian in marble or off white armour for GD. I also thought about doing a really battered up LR being cleaned, painted and fixed up by a horde of servitors and a techmarine. What do you think?

Now that sounds cool.

Qft, that does sound cool.

Really nice work on the chappie there.

I was asking as im doing A2s at the moment (chemistry, biology and maths) and was just curious!!

I love what you have done here. Another painter that paints their SM to look like they work for a living. Love it all. Keep up the awesome work. The best SoO I have seen to date.

Now the Land Raider cleaning I like.......It just seems something utterly unique which I've never seen with 40K elements. its far more a diorama modeller thing which is good. Although I must admit you've now got "Working at the Carwash" stuck in my head!

Had a great 8 hour session today, so unsurprisingly I got a lot done. As you shall see in the pictures.

And here they are.

I don’t know about you but I am very pleased with the chaplain. I was relatively quick to paint and of a high enough standard for a local competition maybe.


The first 3 terminators finished. Well... 99% finished, I still have the purity seals to paint.


The army so far. I’m really looking forward to the arrival of the dreadnoughts!

Thanks for all your comments so far keep them coming!

Gorgeous!

I love it They look great as individuals , but arent over that top so they'll look even better united on the battlefield ( ment in a good way , I thought it sounded kinda 'your guys are so bad they only look good from 3 feet away on the field')

Great work.

Your squad looks incredibly realistic - the bases pull it all together. The subdued, dusty paint scheme really looks good.

Looking great. I like your background sheet for photography too. Where did you get that from?

My photo background is just the inside cover of a large book I have at home.

I started assembling the second tactical squad today and finally got round to painting the last member of the first squad. I haven't got any pics today but there will be an update tomorrow or the day after with plenty of them

SoO

Well... after what seems lake absolutely ages the first tactical squad is 100% complete!

And here are some pictures


I had an idea today and I was wondering what you people think. I’m going to carry on the Sons of Orar scheme but mix it up a bit to give the models some more individuality. E.g. have some marines with red helmets shoulder pads etc. and paint other parts of them white like hands or feet or torso etc.

Good idea or bad idea?

For space marines I concider it a bad idea , unless its something along the lines of "captains have red helmets , but instead they have white knee pads/greaves ."

For an Ork Clan it would be a good idea hwoever , as they arent as organized as the marines are

Bad ideá, stick to white heads and shoulders. Or else they wont look like sons of orar. It's like any other chapter, you don't paint a white scars marine in any other colors than red and white as an example.

Still going bloomin damn brilliant!

Cant wait to see it all finished.

You are an inspiration to us all!

On the contrary, I think changing up the colors is a great idea, but you should do it in an organized fashion. Maybe reverse the color for veteran, assault, or devastator squads to make them stand out. This way it seems as if there is a reason for their different coloration, as opposed to making your army look unorganized.

I think Smeezilla has a pont you dont want everything looking the same as it might drive you mad keep up the good work my friend.

Its your army, its your choice. I reckon that you're a painter more than a gamer, so do what looks cool in your eyes! But if you want to get into the fluff you could write a legend about Orar, how he touched the armour of his warriors who showed the most courage, and those parts of armour were painted white as a mark of respect.

So you can mix up your white shoulder pads, helmets, arms etc..

Keep up the awesome work!

[edit] ps. loving the purple plasma cannon and gun!!

I love the plasma cannon too.

Im soo impressed with your army!
You are spending alot of time on each and every model!

I wish i hade the time for that.

Awesome work as always, Geting home to check out Dakka and finding an update with pics of your awesome marines is a real highlight of my day, keep up the amazing work!

Subscrib'd. This is fantastic. Go late-teen gamers!

I bought a 10 man assault squad today well two five man squads. I also bought my terminator librarian for GD (there will be some nice pics of them coming up over the next couple of weeks)

For those of you who are more into the gaming side of the army I have written up an army list (what I have in my army so far)

HQ

Chaplain Decius in terminator armour 130 points


Troops

Tactical squad Vesparius (plasma cannon, plasma gun and sergeant with storm bolter) 195 points

Tactical squad Vandion (lascannon, meltagun and sergeant with powerfist and plasma pistol) 225 points


Elites

Terminator squad Thoron (2 chainfists) 210 points

Venerable dreadnought: Ancient Ferion (twin-linked lascannon and extra armour) 210 points

Venerable dreadnought: Ancient Apollius (plasma cannon and extra armour) 190 points


Fast Attack

Assault Squad Essanius (2 flamers and sergeant with power axe and combat shield) 230 points


Heavy support

Landraider Ventium Rex (storm bolter and extra armour) 275 points


Total so far 1665 points

Finished the terminator squad today pics will be uploaded tomorrow

Its like s.j.mccartney says you're a painter, so go with the visual. Don't let fluuf get in the way of an awesome idea, its designed to inspire not constrict what we as gamers come up with.

Dude that is some sweet weathering you got there. love the way the white turns out.

You my good gamer, are doing an absolutely fantastic job with your paint job, and on the work of your models.

I saw the chaplain... and was literally speechless. Your work is amazing. Nuts to people who say space marines don't get dirty!

One question though, how did you make the bone stand out so well on the chappy?! I have... lets just say problems, painting bone colors.

I’ve finally got round to a nice big photo upload


The finished terminator squad. I popped in to GW today to enter a painting competition being held tomorrow and picked up some dead grass static grass. I mixed it with a bit of the bright green static grass and added it to the bases. It really brings the models to life I think.


Some clearer pics of the tactical marines with the improved bases.


A not very clear picture of the army so far. (They wouldn't all fit in the book for a picture)


A sneak peak at my GD entry for this year. I’m planning doing some light effect on it and some sourced light so if any of you have any tips of know good tutorials please comment. The weapon has the blade from a grey knight terminator and the parchment wrapped round the haft is made of an off cut of etched brass.



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The model was undercoated black and then lightly airbrushed grey from one direction so I can have some guidance for shading from a light source.

Truely beautifal looking models, keep it up.

Something I read once about light said before you paint you may want to choose an angle of light and very lightly spray on some white paint so you can get an idea of how the paint should be to replicate light falling.

CrazyThang: I didn't answer your question about the bone armour. I do mention my recipe on page 5, just above the picture of the dreadnought. I hope it helps!

Oh lol, must have missed that! I was too entranced by the pictuers.

The termies look amazing,and I am very excited to see how the libraiian goes. Idea instead of just a shoulder pad in the sons colour have you thought about maybe his left hand being painted that red. It would make it all just pop.

I’m not going to do the librarian in Sons of Orar colours... I’m not really sure on what chapter to do except he's going to have off white armour and the weapons are going to glow blue.

you may as well do him as the SoO libby.

I really love this thread it's awesome... although I probably shouldn't read it while I'm painting... 'cause then I look down and realise I'm no where near the level of you're painting and I'm twenty, a massive kudos to you sir!

Looking interesting although I still want to see the 40k carwash......

Fantastic sense of drama with these miniatures. Great dynamism. Very inspiring work.

(A Raven Guard Librarian would be... awesome! Remember, their veterans and commanders have while shoulder pads and arms!)

Awesome stuff, as always.

Your painting tips/recipes in particular are very much appreciated!

Loving the full army pic and the list. You have quite a force there. Also I never saw static grass look so good, did you stick it on with superglue or pva?

Keep up the great painting!

Man, seriously amazing stuff again!

Love the Terminators!

You've just inspired me to potentially do something more grassy on some of my basses, rather than just mud or snow.

I undervalued the good Ol' grassland!

It all looks incredible, but that termie's head on the far right I fear might be a little too small and simple. Just looks undersized to me.

"Arn't you a bit small to be a Terminator?"

These Space Marines are awesome! I really like how you paint them, they look real, instead of the pristine look the Marines in the Codex have.

Also, in most of your pictures about the progress of the army, the models aren't fully built; I've tried that before, and whenever I try it, after the models get glued, they don't look like they are all one piece, as your models do. How do you build them so they look as seemless as they do, and, any tips on how to achieve this look with other models?

-Sweord

I would have thought he dry-fits them thoroughly to make sure and then begins painting.

just a quick word off topic. if any of you are interested i'm currently selling this model on eBay.

you can find it at: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320491872825&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

got any other views on that one?

I thought you might like to see this picture, it’s my main source of inspiration. And I have just noticed that there is a fatal flaw in the painting of my librarian... though as I’m still painting him there shouldn't be any problems with fixing him up ... if all goes well I might get a demon this year... well that's where I shall be aiming... I have to get further than I did in 2009

Anyway yeah, less of my own goals, this model is by Fernando Prieto Carbonell who is an absolutely awesome painter (as you can see) he has a fine 6 golden demons to his name and 2 slayer swords.

Dude, I thought you were gonna say that was yours!

Wouldnt have been too surprised tho lol.

Its class.

aye that is amazing. Looks like he did that as large scale too with thte forge world one. Hrmm either or wow and I can see why that is inspirational.

Yeah, I would have bought that you painted that, I was like, "OH CRAP DUDE SNAPPED AND HE MIGHT BE DOING DRUGS".

im a bit confused im gonna get flamed at for this but... You said acid rain is a big cause of the weathering and yet theres grass? Alive, Healthy Plain Grass? Shouldnt it be like all purple or somin?

But other than that nice models and are you 17 yes?
Cause i want to enter Golden Daemon but would rather not waste my time if your in it...

Yes, and the grass is in fact yellow with I tiny bit of green grass added... remember acid rain is not hydrochloric acid it’s about as acidic as beer (pH 4 to 5) so grass could grow quite easily... grass grows near the sea in sand dunes even though the sea is both very salty and an alkali...


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Got the assault squad partially assembled and sorted out the shading on the librarians hand, making it nice and smooth I’ll be uploading some pics tomorrow

To answer some questions.

@ s.j.mccartney. The grass was really an experiment on these guys though I used my usual techniques. 1. Put a small amount of PVA glue where you want the grass. 2. Apply LOADS of static grass in almost like a pile on the base. 3. Push down on the grass pile firmly to get as much as possible to stick to the glue. 4. turn the model upside down and gently tap to remove all the excess grass, this also makes the strands stand up vertically making it a lot more realistic... another way to add grass is with tweezers, though I find this far to fiddly when doing multiple models.

@ Sweord. Well I assemble the models filly with very small amounts of glue to get the right look, and then take off the bits I want to paint separately. Or I use one part as a template. E.g. use a bolter to make sure the arms on the marine are in the right place. The other think which is quite obvious is doing apply glue where it could be seen. I use very small amounts of super glue to glue on the bolter and backpack.

I'm still trying to get back into the hobby and seeing your models and how well you have done them has inspired me. Can't wait to see that Termie done for the GD! How many other races have you tried modeling and painting? Or even different games? I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work! Just curious but, I"ve seen you mention paint ratios, but I've never been taught about water ratio. Is that a figure out on you own thing with plastic and metal or is there a helpful hint?

Still loving this stuff. Keep it up, I want to see a whole Chapter!

@ Biscuit#14: Over the years I have collected every race of lord of the rings warhammer apart from dwarfs (I moved to 40K just before they came out). In the 40k universe I have collected space marines (as you can see), tyranids, chaos space marines, orks, imperial guard and nercrons. As to paint to water ratios, if you’re a beginner painter then it really doesn't matter. If you want to do basic highlighting thin the paint down paint : water 3:1 or 3:2... If you're doing single miniatures then you want to thin it at least 1:1 to get smooth shading I often use 1:3 paint to water or even 1:4 to get a nice smooth gradient in shades.

Also had a quick crack at the heavy flamer terminator. You can see the head a lot better with a coat of paint. The model has only received the basecoat so far.


Awesome stuff! I just want to know how you did the sallet-style helm on this guy

It’s a Bretonian knight head with the gubbinz cut off the carefully filed into shape


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Some pics of the librarian so far (about 8 to 10 hours work) I’m pretty pleased with my shading on the lower arm armour (the only finished bit) my light sourcing has come out really nicely. I was a bit sceptical of doing such a dark grey under the arm but it looks pretty good along with the paint chips and rust streaks.


The assault squad so far... sorry about the blur I wasn't using my usual camera.

i'm away all next week so no updates :( but i'll try and get a good big pic-heavy one up for you to look at up for you over the weekend

aw thats to bad im looking forward to seeing your librarian finished from the looks so far im sure you will win.

One of my ideas for basing the assault marines. I was planning on putting them on different lengths of wire from about 1cm to 4cm long.

What do you think?

Are you going to cover the wire with something like raptors have or will you leave it exposed and paint it a "background" color? Or neither?

As a suggestion, and since I know you're up to it, why not attach the wire to the backpack?

You could then attach cotton, spray paint and airbrush it into proper color, and even leave some light coming from the exhaust port from the fire. This would cover the wire and make your Assault Marines look BEAUTIFUL.

Or go for armour cast bits.

Or wrap Green Stuff around the wire. In a fire-like way.

I've never been a fan of the the second founding ultramarine chapters. But you sir/madam, have changed my mind! I say hats off to you, sons of orar. That is excellent. I can't wait to see the venerable dread! And I think the smoke from the jump pack is a grand idea.

Well the Son's Of the Orar are one of the coolest ultramarine successor chapters out there! They are one of the few that are cool.

you mean very cool

Won a regional painting competition today. I beat the guys who used to teach me to paint up until about 3 months ago


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Oh and about the assault marines base, I was just going to paint the wire black or dark grey. I don't like the idea of flames coming out of SM jump packs. Maybe for ork storm boyz, think about it, no flames and smoke come out of modern military jet engines so why should it come out of jump packs for warriors 38,000 years in the future? Though I do like your light effect idea. I was thinking doing light blue to white inside the engines with a bit of light effect on the armour under the jets.

Thanks Dee for the armour cast idea, I hadn't seen that site before and I’m highly temped now by the muzzle flashes for bolters

Well, I'm not suprised. You are a great painter!Armourcast? I'll have to take a look.

S**ting tits. I've been painting since you were naught but a wee lad of six years old, and I'm nowhere near this good! Mind you, I paint with 'utilitarian' in mind, BUT STILL

This is my painting with utilitarian in mind lol

Don't know how I've missed this. Great stuff so far mate. Looking forward to seeing more.

Some more pics of the assault marines. I was thinking of doing some different shoulder pad variants for these guys... the mould lines need to be removed and the gun barrels drilled out then they're ready to be sprayed

Your variant shoulder pads make me green with envy!

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with next...

If you and littleboyblues trained a rookie, we would have found a god.

I didn’t get a huge amount done today and as I’m going away and promised some pics I’ve got some of my other SM army from a year or so ago along with my painted Sons of Orar.




And here are some of my other (very nice) land raider.


The sergeant. I haven't really decided if I like the thing on his head, though the shoulder pads look good.


Some of the marines ready for spraying. All that needs to be done before is the drilling out of the gun barrels.

Yeah, I don't think you should go with that ornament on his head. Maybe, on his backpack?

The head ornament is way too large. It's about the size of his head, and that could be a problem.

Whats the blue chapter?

Hummm.... In the words of Londo They are ..... Blue or was it Dellenn's ade?

SONS of ORAR wrote:Some pics of the librarian so far (about 8 to 10 hours work) I’m pretty pleased with my shading on the lower arm armour (the only finished bit)

You spent ten hours painting his arm?

Tek wrote:

SONS of ORAR wrote:Some pics of the librarian so far (about 8 to 10 hours work) I’m pretty pleased with my shading on the lower arm armour (the only finished bit)

You spent ten hours painting his arm?

It's true dedication brah.

Looking nice and congrats on the painting award! I like how you are (starting?) to use thin plasticard.

Hey guys back from Italy now ... yesterday the guy came to drop off my dreadnoughts and nobody answered the door so no dreads till Monday :(

Thanks for the feedback on the helmet conversion... looking at it now I see what you mean, its just way too big for his helmet so as you say, I’m going to put in to his back pack...

A lot of you asked for a shoulder pad tutorial when I was doing the tactical squad so here it is.


A rectangle of plasticard was cut out a bit bigger the back of the shoulder pad.


This was also done for the bottom of the shoulder pad.


The larger piece of plasticard was glued on with super glue, the smaller one.


Once the glue was 100% dry the inside of the shoulder pad was carefully filed out with a small rotary file.


The same was done to the outside, and the shoulder pad is ready to glue onto your model, if you're fussy then you can fill in any cracks with green stuff, though I don't bother with table quality models. Though if it’s for a competition it is defiantly worthwhile as attention to detail is what makes a winner!

What was the other blue chapter in your army pics?
Also check white dwarf 300, it has some of the most intresting stuff out there, and it will help to give you ideas for your space marine army.

Cheers Asherian Command! The blue chapter I called the Emperor's Serpents. And I will go and hunt down a copy of white dwarf 300 and take a look

Their Almost Extinct :*(, it shows you an article of personalsing space marines, custodes, and the an article of their lore, except problem is they are 20 pages, but oh well.

Just started painting the assault marines (I’ve changed the head on the sergeant now) so there should be plenty of pics for tomorrow if I get some of them done by then.

SONS of ORAR wrote:Just started painting the assault marines (I’ve changed the head on the sergeant now) so there should be plenty of pics for tomorrow if I get some of them done by then.

Take your time as good models are worth the wait

That is very true.

I'm really liking the basing for the Assault Marines they just look cool like that!

Your thread has been single-handed cause of regret in selling my SM army. Amazing work mate, looking forward to seeing if you go on with a whole company.

thank so so much for that tutorial!!!

definetly want to try it

I want your army!

Got 3 assault marines painted today and plenty of pics of them for you to see and comment on.

I also thought up a bit of fluff today about different coloured helmets:

Red helmets are worn by marines on their first tour of duty with that squad, once they have done their first campaign (on return to the fortress monastery) they are fully initiated into that particular squad and given a white helmet. Marines that have served with particular bravery or have served with a squad for a long time may have other parts of their armour painted white to signify their deeds and service.

What do you think?

Anyway onto the marines painted today.


I’m really pleased with them. The spikes on the shoulder pad were a spur of the moment idea, all they are the heads of pins inserted into small pre-drilled holes. You can also see in the last picture the glow from the jump pack engines.


The engines were painted with watered down ice blue then heavily dry-brushed with skull white. I then painted over the area with a dark blue wash. The results aren't bad though they could be a little brighter. Maybe a little more highlighting with an ice blue and skull white mix?? I’ll have to experiment a bit more I think

Ok how do you do this could send me an email on how to do this with Dark Green?

Love the work, them assualt marines are sweet, looks like i'll be doing some of them next month :-)

Just friggin' awesome!

Huge fan of the Jump pack engine color.

What did you use to support the Assault marines?
What kind of rod?

Awesome!

And in this age of TLOS, a bold modeling choice too!

Nice weathering on those, not too much, not too little. I like it!

Best jump pack exhausts I've ever seen. I'm lovin your work. I hope all the positive feedback you get serves well as fuel as you try to paint your whole army up to this standard! Keep on rockin.

Looks like paper clips.

Paper clips are the best but i couldn't find any so i just used some wire of about the same thickness.


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The dreadnought arrived today so I’ll have some pics of that soon but first... I got an email about the new blood angel releases and I thought the space hulk miniatures were the best plastic miniatures ever made....


But no.....



They have been beaten....



By these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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AH I love those models too! You should paint some up when they come out.

Exceptional work, as always.

Great work as usual man, though I am not quite sure I am a fan of the spike strip on the shoulder of the SGT, but hey all around amazing as usual. I love those sanguinary gaurd too but I think they are a bit mmmm cumbersome.

I'm a fan of the spined reinforcement on the Assault Marine's shoulder. It has an nice gladiatorial feel.

Well here are the pics of the dreadnought as he is at this very moment ... what do you think.

It is an awesome kit. It even has ALL the weapon options! No need for extra parts, all the arm variants are there and you can build and have all 3 of them not just the one you usually get.

Anyway less of my chat and more of the pictures.


This is how he looks at the moment. Note; the white thing under his foot is a lump of plaster (a lump of concrete when he's painted up)


The other weapon arms.


The marine inside (how awesome is that?!)


The engine.


The two of them...


Some of the awesome parts in the kit.

Enjoy!


@ Empchild : I see where you're coming from. It is a little less "codex" though it was a fun little conversion even though it may be a little more chaos-ie you could say?

@ Asherian Command : what exactly do you want me to teach you to paint with dark green?

Ah I cant wait to see your painted dreads.

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SONS of ORAR wrote:Well here are the pics of the dreadnought as he is at this very moment ... what do you think.
It even has ALL the weapon options!

Either we arent talking about the same kit , or your wrong . The Ven. Dread does'nt have a multi-melta .

Looks FAn-fu****-tastick.... i wish i hade youir skills

i'm not bothered about the multi melta i don't like it... so ok... all but 1


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As to the picture... it was removed as it was copyrighted by GW :( I didn’t know it was when I uploaded it.

Very sweet dread. Its great to see the view of the marine interred within, and the weapon options! I didn't know before if you got just the weapon, or the shoulder mount also! Now I know, thank you!

That'll save me some pennies for when its time to order a forgeworld resin dread!

Quick question!

(Or two!)

Are the marine helmets that come with the Venerable Dread kit 'marine sized'?

And, could you take some pics of the helmets from the dread kit on regular marine bodies?

Thanks!

The helmets are marine sized though they don’t have the same neck piece as normal marines; instead they are the same as terminator helmets. This isn’t a problem though if you know how to use a file. I offered one up to a marine body today so there'll be some pics in a couple of days.

I finished assembling the 1st dread today so I’ll take some pics ready to show you in my nest update. as it is such a lovely kit I’ll probs spend a couple of days painting it (like I did with the LR) though as its got so much detail I think that spraying it would not be the best idea, though I’ll decide when I get round to painting it.

as I’ve now seen the new blood angels stuff and am thinking how cool it is, I’m thinking of maybe having a squad or two of them in my army... good idea?

Cheers, SoO

I love the new Ven Dread kit, if only we could somehow pit my Chaos conversion up against your loyalist (scum) one...

Although this blog just makes me want to start a loyalist marine army even more...

If you are planning to get that sanctionary guard (or whatever they are called) please make some conversions to make them look less... um... gay?

These are amazing. 'Nuf said. I'm 13 and I think I'm an ok painter for my age, so I can't wait to see what I'm doing at 17! Probably nothing close to this..... :(

SONS of ORAR wrote:The helmets are marine sized though they don’t have the same neck piece as normal marines; instead they are the same as terminator helmets. This isn’t a problem though if you know how to use a file. I offered one up to a marine body today so there'll be some pics in a couple of days.

Looking forward to this!

SONS of ORAR wrote:
I finished assembling the 1st dread today so I’ll take some pics ready to show you in my nest update. as it is such a lovely kit I’ll probs spend a couple of days painting it (like I did with the LR) though as its got so much detail I think that spraying it would not be the best idea, though I’ll decide when I get round to painting it.

Also really looking forward to this - you do amazing things with vehicles.

OK, with everything really, but still!

mmmm can't wait to see this done, awsome kit from GW, its just not fair :-( why can't CSM's get this kind of love ?

^Because the All Powerful Emperor and Lion El'Jonson says they can't.

as promised, here are the pics of the finished dreadnought (assembly that is)


note his little flag is from the terminator kit but everything else is from the dreadnought kit.



just noticed I haven't got a pic of the plasma cannon arm... not to worry they’ll be one up soon

GW have done a great job with this one, that's for sure.

Paint it! PLEASE!

Just getting towards finishing the 2nd dread. So here are some more pics of him.



I was also thinking about writing some fluff about the 2 dreads. But I’ll go into that when I have more time. Though the basic gist of the story is that they contain the bodies of Lucien, commander of the 3rd company for 5 centuries, until he was grievously wounded in M37.894 during a surprise attack by Dark Eldar on the planet of Yesthar Prime. In the same battle company champion Dexion on the 3rd was also mortally wounded when covering the retreat with Commander Lucien. They were allowed suit of dreadnought armour for their bravery and heroicness on the field... as the two served together for near 3 centuries before the Yesthar incident they were nigh inseparable and have always taken to battle together ever since.

I’ll expand on the story at some point in the near future... I hope you like it

I like that bit of fluff very much. I demand moar!

Is it worth the 43$ Price tag? if so i'll buy 2.

Love the arch window themed bits for those.

And the leafy las cannons!

When do you do your battle damage? After modelling or pre-painting or during painting?

Love it. Good to see they come with the cracked earth bases too. Nice fluff. You could put dark eldar helmets from their belts as trophies, I have some spare if you need some. Looking forward to the painting!

edit [I just noticed that this was my 1000th post! I'm glad it was on such a cool thread! Keep up the great work sons of orar]

These are still to be tidied up i take it... (noticed some flash on the 2nd dread, you probs already hav it covered tho)

I am definitely going to get one/ lotsof these for my blood ravens army...Do you think they would look any good as DA dreads as well??

I really want to see all the variant heads up close, on a Space Marine body... please?

Sir I am in awe of your dedication and skill. Hats off to you!

to tell the truth I dont like them bases.

Unfortunately I have my AS level exams coming up in about 6 to 8 weeks so I won't be able to update the blog as often as I have been doing in the past. I also won't be able to do as much painting as I have been doing (I won't be doing any in the week) ... the reason is I need some good results... if I don't get them I won't be able to get a good job to pay for the models I paint... as you all know: no model = no army = no blog

So from now on I’ll be doing a blog update with pictures every 1 or 2 weeks until early June as to an update every couple of days.

but on a more cheery note: I managed to squeeze in about 6 hours of modelling this weekend around the revision and managed to largely paint Lucien... well he is totally painted apart from his flag and some other little details as you will see...




The flag was detached for painting but I’m pleased with the result so far.


Some more detailed shots of the weapon options. I tried the same scorching effect as I used on the lascannons on the Land Raider.


A picture or rust on an iron gate I saw this morning... might have a go at replicating it on some armour.

i'll have a go at writing ome more fluff in my free time and i'll put up some pics of dread heads on marines as soon as possible

Cheers,

SONS of ORAR

Really nice dude!

Loving that dusty look youve got there. Goes well with the crushed concrete landscape.

Awesome work sons of orar! How do you do your gold? I love how it looks.

One of the best P&M blogs on Dakka, bar none! Your painting skill leaves me with a sense of awe. Can't wait to see more, and good luck with your AS level exams when they do finally roll around!

Good luck with your AS exams. I didn't work nearly hard enough during mine and I can tell you those results can come back to haunt you! I applaud your work ethic, but with your painting skills, it does not surprise me.

Not a fan of the new Ven Dreadnought model, but you've done a fantastic job on it, as usual. Hope you've got the Librarian stowed away safe until you have time to do it justice. I'll be looking out for it at GD this year

That was fast!

And, I'm still lovin' that purple plasma coil action!

Amazing work on the dreads. Your weathering is grade 'A'

WOW, I just read through your stuff, and I am amazed. You are also not much older than me so I am even more amazed. Well Done on your stuff.

A M A Z I N G......

Seriously though, outstanding work. I love absolutely everything you're doing here and i eagerly await your new stuff (even if it is due to be more infrequent).

Off-topic: I admire your dedication, starting revision so early (though i do understand it). Did you do any exams in January? What did you get? (only asking cos the results came out the other day)