13022
Post by: Locclo
As the thread suggests, what are some of the most annoying models you've ever had to assemble? Be it a tricky conversion or a just plain spiky model, (I'm looking at you, Chaos players) which models have you found are downright irritating to put together?
The only two that I've found so far in my brief, brief time playing the tabletop portion of 40k are Crisis Suits and Kroot. Crisis Suits are hard to get on the base just right - with two separate legs (Rather than a single piece for both) it's tricky to get it to stand perfectly straight on its base. Either the legs are spread too far apart or too close, or one leg somehow ends up higher than the other, I usually have trouble trying to get the darn thing to stand up properly. Plus, the back pieces never seem to match up just right. Every time, the two pieces start ripping apart as soon as that glue is down. It's not enough to actually crack the model in half, fortunately, but it always gets me a little jumpy over how long it'll last...
As for Kroot, the pieces are very poorly molded, and do not go together at all. The gun itself is a serious pain, since most of them have a right arm and left hand attached. Trying to get the two halves to match up right is just plain irritating. Plus, the back piece never seems to sit right on the model. No matter how I put it, it always looks like it's just kind of floating on his back, rather than being attached to it. Thankfully, Kroot have never been worth the points for me, so I don't need to assemble any more, but those first 12 were a pain in the arse to put together...
16759
Post by: Natorum
Chaos Obliterators. Just a terrible kit and almost a must have for many competitive lists.
15490
Post by: RatherFatRat
So far i'm having one hell of a time with my 'Queek Headtaker' model.
Though ,I have a hunch its my glue.
Arms are prickly, a bit heavy (He's basically doing the wingspan thing, so theres a lot of protruding weight) so i've had to keep his arms held up using my fingers waiting for my crappy Super glue to set in. I would pin him but I don't have the proper materials and supplies to do so.
That and theres very little to keep his little... Rack/headbanner thing or whatever its called that he has on his back. Its just a tiny bump.
I think they should make metal models a lot like the snap fits that they have for orks. Would be a lot less of a headache just to assemble.
16457
Post by: Ronin
Having just helped my friend assemble his Obliterators, I must agree with the above post that Oblits are the WORST metal mini to assemble, ever. Never again. Next he can go convert his own from terminators or somethin
5636
Post by: warpcrafter
The mobile infantry from the Starship Troopers starter box. All those armor plates that should be molded on are separate pieces. And even worse, they come with these ugly yellow plastic pieces that are supposed to be stuck into the helmets.
7625
Post by: Alex Kolodotschko
Anything metal where the hand needs to be pinned to the wrist.
19279
Post by: Pappa Shango
Thunderfire Cannon... the times that i've  ing swore trying to get the two cannon halves to line up..
Basically the two halves were curved and I tried to line them up the best I could. As I tried filing it down to slightly curved now so I tried to glue it. One side would stick and the other wouldn't.
18410
Post by: filbert
Several have made my top ten annoyance list. Highlights include;
1. The fiddly hurricane bolter sponsons on a LRC
2. Tyrannid gargoyles (the metal ones)
3. The metal Ork tankbustas with arms & weapons that refuse to glue.
20018
Post by: Hyenajoe
The metal tyranid gargoyles...I'm still having nightmares with them!
15735
Post by: Bash the Bosh
I always found the metal Blood-thirster to be a right swear-job. Those wings are far too heavy and kept snapping off as soon as I put him down on the table. Thank feck GW released plastic wings....
11837
Post by: jgemrich
Hands down the Thunderfire cannon.
Heavy pieces, wrists joints...etc can be done w/ pins and different glues (epoxies and accelerators). So that is just experience in modeling.
The TFC just doesn't line up. The model has to be hacked apart just to get it to fit. I will never understand how that got released as is.
17376
Post by: Zid
Quite a few actually;
- Fiends of Slaneesh - Horribly built model, the tails a douche
- Demon princes - they're heavy and don't go together too well
- Obliterators - horrible kit, who thought of the large holes for the arms that never fit... and the small blades? forget it. I didn't even put em on, takes patience of a saint
- Ork Stompa - No instructions....
- Chimera - The tracks were stupidly engineered... whoever made this kit shoulda taken lessons from the guys who did the russ kits
- Hive Tyrant - very top heavy model, gluing the body halves is a b**** and a half, and getting it to stay together is an exercise in futility... thank god I had some cups and a gluebottle handy to sit it up and let it stand while it dried ><
Thats all I can think of for now. Basically almost all metal models lol...
10097
Post by: Ensis Ferrae
so far, i havent had too much trouble with my 40k line of minis, the ones ive had issues with were all fantasy minis.
The Khorne Lord on Juggernaut was a bear to put together, the pieces are far too heavy for their own good. the legs came warped and i had to use some pliers to straighten them so it would stand period, which produced some extra lines on the hooves that i didnt like one bit.
the dark elf corsair banner mini. the banner, while plastic is just big enough that when attached, it moves the center of weight just right, enough to make it unstable on anything other than a flat surface.
the DE Hydra... fething heads, Nuff said.
22689
Post by: Sir Motor
Sammael(Master Of Ravenwing)
Large,many multi parts and most parts need some bend to fit.
9777
Post by: A-P
filbert wrote:1. The fiddly hurricane bolter sponsons on a LRC.
So true. I lost maybe 2D6 points of Sanity assembling those.
18410
Post by: filbert
A-P wrote:filbert wrote:1. The fiddly hurricane bolter sponsons on a LRC.
So true. I lost maybe 2D6 points of Sanity assembling those.
Mine ended up being thrown at the wall in a fit of nerd rage...
299
Post by: Kilkrazy
Tau Sniper Drones.
8161
Post by: Diamonas
my most annoying model in almost 13 years of the hobby are the following.
1. Hellcannon of Chaos (warrriors of chaos WFB) having done it Twice UUGH
2. Penitent engine Sisters of battle
3.my warshrine for Chaos WFB that is a WIP conversion atm, trying to cut down weight, extremely difficult due to Everything needing to be pined with 3mm brass rod to keep its structure steady. not to mention the fact that 95% of the model is pewter aswell Ugh.
and i plan on making 2 one for khorne and one for Tzeentch.
9777
Post by: A-P
filbert wrote:A-P wrote:filbert wrote:1. The fiddly hurricane bolter sponsons on a LRC.
So true. I lost maybe 2D6 points of Sanity assembling those.
Mine ended up being thrown at the wall in a fit of nerd rage...
 I managed to avoid that ( barely ). The bolter arrays were finally subdued by generous amounts of Green Stuff and Super Glue. But I still suffer from heightened blood pressure whenever I take my LRC to a game. I juts KNOW the contraptions are waiting for that innocent little bump that gives them the excuse to fall apart...
20124
Post by: Neith
Bash the Bosh wrote:I always found the metal Blood-thirster to be a right swear-job. Those wings are far too heavy and kept snapping off as soon as I put him down on the table. Thank feck GW released plastic wings....
Pin the wings. My Bloodthirster has a pin in each wing, and one in the body. If the arms ever come off I'll pin those too. I'll admit it's a bad kit if you don't use pins, but with a good pin in each wing it'll be fine. I pinned mine about 3-4 years ago and it hasn't fell apart once.
As for me:
- Tyranid Zoanthrope (the lower body DOES NOT FIT to the upper body, at all. I had to file down the joint for ages, and then pin it). To add insult to injury, the 'vents' on the back are always coming off too.
- Blood Angels Honour Guard (Particularly the Standard Bearer). The standard is way too heavy for an all-plastic model (standard is metal), and even after pinning it it overbalances the model so it will never stand up. Having no way of reliably weighing the base down, I switched the jump pack for a metal one (to counterbalance the weight), raised it off the base with a pin to make it look like he's flying. Ridiculous. The Tech-Adept was a little annoying too, first time I'd had to pin a regular sized model (followed swiftly by the Standard Bearer).
The Tyranid Hive Tyrant was a bit of a pain too- the body halves don't want to set against the central torso, there's way too much weight on the top/front of the model which makes connecting the legs to the upper body a nightmare, and once it's on the base you can notice it moving slightly because of the massive weight forcing the model forward. Again, multiple pins in this. Awesome looking model once it's built, but ugh, it should be plastic.
10855
Post by: nyyman
Carnosaurus
I got it for Christmas present 4 years ago or so, and I just can't get the fricking tail keeping in the fricking place and as it balances the whole model, I can't get the Carnosaurus on the fricking base.
F*** Y** Kroq-Gar
4179
Post by: bubber
Death Jack from PP.
I lost 3 drill bits to that guy & he took about 4 hours of drilling then gluing then drilling in cross / locking pins to hold him up.
2nd is the SoB penitent engine
9711
Post by: Morgrim
I had a few arguments with the WFB hydra. Pinning didn't really work so well, I lack a rotary tool and just couldn't get pins long enough at the right angle to hold it all together. It seems that the pins were only jolting most bits further out of alignment on the necks. So the tail is (sort of) pinned, the legs are, and the open jaws. The necks and weight of the tail is just heavy amounts of superglue, then more glue filling the nasty gaps that are left once dry, then greenstuff in the remaining gaps, then a final layer of greenstuff that I sculpt the detail in.
Once the whole lot was dry, I could move on to the next neck. It took about a fortnight to put together. Didn't even attempt to pin the heavy metal to the thin base, I just used epoxy instead (which I should have considered for the necks, in hindsight).
9277
Post by: maxdamek
metal ork tankbustas ( not finished yet... )
ork bikes
18698
Post by: kronk
The metal hurricane bolters.
The metal Techmarine.
The old school metal razorback turret.
14420
Post by: FlightMek
As the die-hard gamer between myself and my brother, I was nominated to assemble his eldar army. The walkers were a pain. Both models are crroked on the base. I told him that they look like they are "running into combat." Still wish I could have gotten them to stand up straight, though.
7013
Post by: Ifurita
Not WH40K, but Khador Man of War, Demo Corps. All metal with a bunch of small joins.
11986
Post by: No user found
Another vote for the thunderfire cannon/metal tech marine. They have got to be the worse combo of models that I have assembled
19548
Post by: cpt_fishcakes
The blasted engines on the Tau Devilfish. Not because there complex, but because they never seem to be molded properly. One side is always always thicker than the other so the two halves never line up, and you end up having to attack the damn thing with a file and green stuff. Every other piece fits perfectly.
For a real masochistic experience though its hard to beat the Helldorado minis, excellent models but with the smallest most fragile snaptastic components ever cast. GAAAH!!
18286
Post by: big_d
Hands down the most annoying model to assemble is the WHFB Ogre Kingdoms Gnoblar Scraplauncher. It is like two pounds of pewter. All the bits except the Rhinox (whose sides don't match up right) are super tiny, and there are no instructions.
9217
Post by: KingCracker
The worst for me was the basilisk. I put one together about.... 8 years ago (dunno if it has changed) but the instructions were vague at best, and I pretty much would have half of it done, before realizing it was put together wrong lol. That was a righteous pain in the ass.
Other then that, I always hated the oldschool rhinos. They were literally made, to not EVER go together evenly
18039
Post by: CrashUSAR
I've never had to suffer through a Thunderfire cannon, but the little track links on any IG tank drive me up the wall. I had two Chimeras that werent even primered or painted for about two months just because I kept putting off putting tracks on em. There's ALWAYS a gap...
21313
Post by: Vulcan
RatherFatRat wrote:So far i'm having one hell of a time with my 'Queek Headtaker' model.
Though ,I have a hunch its my glue.
Arms are prickly, a bit heavy (He's basically doing the wingspan thing, so theres a lot of protruding weight) so i've had to keep his arms held up using my fingers waiting for my crappy Super glue to set in. I would pin him but I don't have the proper materials and supplies to do so.
That and theres very little to keep his little... Rack/headbanner thing or whatever its called that he has on his back. Its just a tiny bump.
I think they should make metal models a lot like the snap fits that they have for orks. Would be a lot less of a headache just to assemble.
I wound up just using epoxy and had done with it. Tucked some other minis of appropriate height underneath to support while the epoxy set and let it set overnight. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ensis Ferrae wrote:the DE Hydra... fething heads, Nuff said.
Pin them, period. Then green stuff around the joints. Or just use green stuff as the primary adhesive for the pinned joint.
102
Post by: Jayden63
Kroot. I just hate putting together kroot. They paint up nice, but assembly just sucks rocks.
23803
Post by: Mastershake
Wow, only 1 other player here has had the joy of the Hellcannon? Crying shame, everything else is a lightweight in the "who the hell came up with this model" category. So the joy of the Hellcannon is as follows:
-It has no instructions
-I've assembled 2 and both barrels were bowed out
-They have wierd tabs and slots meant to help the barrels fit, but because of the bowing these asctually make it far worse
-It has 29 pieces 8 of which are wheels that have to go in a precise order to overlap properly
-In order to get full paint coverage it has to be painted prior to assembly otherwise you can't get to everything
-And best of all, there is 1, count it 1, official picture of a hellcannon (it comes in a generic direct only box), that you have to use to figure the damn thing out
I had about 6 parts left over that I never figured out where the hell they were supposed to go.
24207
Post by: jbunny
I had no problem with the Crisis suits. I also have them flying in the air. To me the real pain is the War Walkers. Each leg is seperate and each foot is adjustable. Makes it very diffucult to get it to stand straight up. After putting three together I am still not happy with the results.
The new plactis LRC is eazy to put together. At least for me.
691
Post by: Judge_Fear
Dark Eldar Talos, the gaps are so huge is just silly.
4058
Post by: StarGate
NO the old school metal speeder always gave me troouble, and a few of the newer speeders too.
Any forge world model that comes from a hot warehouse( were it warps the resin). BUt the metal speeder, that was a slug of metal... Metal Chaos Dread too...
19347
Post by: gregor_xenos
1. Thunderfire Cannon
2. Monolith (hard to lap the sides)
3. oldschool LandSpeeder
4. Techmarine (the 5 part servoharness)
5. metal tankbustas (oh my gawd!)
but the WORST ive ever assembled was from.... Citadel miniatures???? a Dragon with dwarf rider and hanging basket (with 2 dwarfs)... called "the winds over Valhalla"
IT SUCKED!!!! end result was great tho.... the dragons body "hovered" 4 inches off a "V" shaped base thanks to 3 metal rods attached to em. The "gondola" hung by small chains. Wish I could find it again.....
22007
Post by: elaverick
KingCracker wrote:Other then that, I always hated the oldschool rhinos. They were literally made, to not EVER go together evenly
QFT. The original rhinos were guarenteed to end up with glue covered fingers and huge gaps in the chassis. Though I can top that with the original metal Landspeeder, I've recent disassembled one I did first time around and I'm still not sure if I've got all the bits right (hollow engines covered by seats that don't quite fit over them).
I'd also have to say I think I hate everything about the Necron Monolith. Perfectly rigid when assembled but stupidly fiddly to get it there in the first place. That combined with the fact that it used a gallon of my paints and washes to get it covered and the fact that carrying it by the big protuberance at the top which snapped off scattering parts across my floor, means that this model is high on my list of seriously evil kits.
486
Post by: Elnicko5
One word. Exorcist. The metal top part is difficult to construct, the pieces, made of metal, are generally warped, it comes with no instructions, no pictures on the box, and, unless you want it to come apart constantly, needs to be pinned together.
8305
Post by: Daba
Mastershake wrote:Wow, only 1 other player here has had the joy of the Hellcannon? Crying shame, everything else is a lightweight in the "who the hell came up with this model" category. So the joy of the Hellcannon is as follows:
-It has no instructions
-I've assembled 2 and both barrels were bowed out
-They have wierd tabs and slots meant to help the barrels fit, but because of the bowing these asctually make it far worse
-It has 29 pieces 8 of which are wheels that have to go in a precise order to overlap properly
-In order to get full paint coverage it has to be painted prior to assembly otherwise you can't get to everything
-And best of all, there is 1, count it 1, official picture of a hellcannon (it comes in a generic direct only box), that you have to use to figure the damn thing out
I had about 6 parts left over that I never figured out where the hell they were supposed to go.
I have this as well!
I haven't finished mine. But just putting the barrel together was a massive, massive pain though I think it's downhill from now on.
I'm ok with pinning wrists; I did it on several characters and if you're careful it works quite well so the Chaos Dwarf with the shovel was reasonably easy to do.
But large flat pieces that don't go together are another story. The main problem is the bits just don't fit right, there's this kit and the Chaos Chariot.
21380
Post by: goblinpaintingco
Though I have assembled many difficult kits in my time Lich Lord Terminus from PP was the worst. The character and fluff were so cool and as a player I was really excited, but honestly looking back on it the kit just wasn't worth the stress.  Bottom line: If you are casting a metal model use less parts and for the love of god make pegs for things.  The spikes on the wings were all seperate pieces?!?! Why? What is the perceived value of that besides wasting my time. When I see a metal model that lacks a peg or post I am very put off. This actually reminds me of another kit... Warhead 2 from Dark Age games. I had to sculpt on an entire shoulder. The parts fit was that bad.
21946
Post by: ZacktheChaosChild
Any metal models.
19370
Post by: daedalus
Chimeras are painful, but by far the most annoying thing I've ever put together is Inquisitor Lord Karamazov. His lazy-boy is tons of pieces and unless you feel like pinning every joint, he falls apart first time he is bumped.
10345
Post by: LunaHound
RatherFatRat wrote:So far i'm having one hell of a time with my 'Queek Headtaker' model.
Though ,I have a hunch its my glue.
Arms are prickly, a bit heavy (He's basically doing the wingspan thing, so theres a lot of protruding weight) so i've had to keep his arms held up using my fingers waiting for my crappy Super glue to set in. I would pin him but I don't have the proper materials and supplies to do so.
Turn him to the side , let gravity do the rest of the work. Automatically Appended Next Post: Most annoying to assemble?
Aha it has to be Exorcist.
I have assembled every hard to assemble mini and they are still in one piece.
Exorcist..... nope still in pieces -_-
22054
Post by: Bloodhorror
Obliterators  Horrible models to make... The Arms kept falling off!
and then when i finally got the arms to stick in and i tired to put the TINY head into the TINY hole. the arms snapped off!
10855
Post by: nyyman
ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Any metal models.
+1
And Banblade tracks. For some odd reason I didn't get them straight and just let it be mostly without them.
However, I couldn't assemble Rhino properly so that doesn't prove anything...
20665
Post by: Dais
the first (only?) krootox was by far the worst gw model i ever touched. it shouldnt have been hard but it was so poorly made none of the parts fit together correctly.
the most difficult that was made well was the warmachine general nemo model that had 5 pieces for the head, shoulders, backpack, and body that all had to go together in a very specific way that had to be done almost all at once. his arms were easy to add on at least.
20016
Post by: squilverine
WH Penitent Engine was the worst thing I made, even with pinning it was still weak as hell and far too top heavy.
Closely followed by the hurricane bolters on the LRC, I can't remember how many times I nearly threw the damned thing against the wall
Venerable dreadnought, although not tricky to assemble the two halves of the body just refused to align properly making an already ridiculous looking model even worse.
Also the FW Marauder bomber was a total bitch to get the parts to line up.
19381
Post by: Iron Gryphon
The new venomthrope model is still giving me fits to put together
21364
Post by: FM Ninja 048
The Space Marine Venarable Drednought, I got a staff member to help me builg it at my local GW. the halves of the body Don't line up and the metal bar trough the middle WTF?!
21462
Post by: Ehsteve
Greater Daemon of Khorne, the bloodthirster, you need to pin that the wings on that model model so many times it isn't funny.
Grey Knight terminators because trying to get all the shields and arms to stick will cause your eyes to burn from all the superglue you use.
2210
Post by: Dainty Twerp
throne of judgment
I was judged on my modeling skills and was found wanting.
23389
Post by: cosmic pixie
I had to go through a practice bloodthirster and (about a year later) get another one but that worked just fine.
15634
Post by: Excessionary
warpcrafter wrote:The mobile infantry from the Starship Troopers starter box. All those armor plates that should be molded on are separate pieces. And even worse, they come with these ugly yellow plastic pieces that are supposed to be stuck into the helmets.
howd you get your hands on those might i ask ?
21331
Post by: TempusCorvus
The Defiler's legs are sort of a pain in the ass, since the two parts don't lay flat against each other.
That's the biggest annoyance I've had to deal with so far
6806
Post by: Gavin Thorne
I've heard the Dwarf Gyrocopter is pretty bad/fiddly. The worst trouble I've had is with conversions, namely my aspect wraithlords. They're the old metal ones and chopping them up to bung them back together in new, different ways is a pain in the tuckus.
9644
Post by: Clthomps
Blah those are all easy compared to Asdrubael Vect.
heres a forum were dash asks how to put it together since it has no instructions....
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/274467.page#1259816
For the lazy, it basically involves cutting up the raider to make room for the middle bits.... then pinning all the metal to plastic connections, and finally attaching it to a sliver thin flying base.... God forbid it falls off it...
11298
Post by: anticitizen013
Anything where there are copious amounts of gaps to be filled. In this case, Bloodletters. Why their heads are like 14 different pieces is beyond me...
2515
Post by: augustus5
Two models that gave me fits were a metal deff dread, which still gives me nightmares years later. Also one of the old battlewagon models. I picked one up maybe 16-17 years ago and it was a living hell. Part of it may have been that when I built that battlewagon I was just starting in the hobby.
10092
Post by: a94marbo
Killa Kans...... It dont think that any of the parts where actually ment to fit together... when you finaly get to 2 torso pieces to fit together, you need to use a drill to make a hole round enought to fit the arm piece in the socket. When you drill the hole, the torso pieces split apart.... rince and repeat.
To assemble 9 of them...... well you have to invent new words because the old ones seems to be worn out.....
7818
Post by: Kreedos
Monolith and Drop pod.
All the sides never line up correctly because all the molds come out bent. Then putting all the little pieces in the drop pod is such a pain.
23223
Post by: Monster Rain
Necron Wraiths were kind of a pain, and +1 to Drop Pods.
Right now I have a Shadowsword that is really intimidating me. That's a lot of plastic.
9079
Post by: FITZZ
The old Land Raider Crusader,those fething hurricane bolters made me want to drop kick that damn model.
Also Killa Kanz and DeffDreads...I built a gak ton of those (both kanz and dreads)...and NOW GW is coming out with plastics...yep,that's about how my luck goes.
12088
Post by: Red9
Khadors Extreme Juggernaut sculpt. Try to do it without pinning.
23223
Post by: Monster Rain
I'd like to point out that after I discovered Rapid Cure I haven't really had trouble with any models.
5566
Post by: studderingdave
scraplauncher
24608
Post by: Schnitzel
I had a *radda* of a time putting together the Master of the Ravenwing. So much pinning and rubber bands were used!
The Greater Daemons of Slaanesh and Tzeentch were a pain too. As were Pink Horrors.
Radda.
17543
Post by: acreedon
tyranid bio titan. Those stupid little spikes that you have to glue.. i can't even fit them in my fingers and i had to use tweezers one. it was the most annoying thing in the world. but then i realized i have a bio titan and smiled
17543
Post by: acreedon
tyranid bio titan. Those stupid little spikes that you have to glue.. i can't even fit them in my fingers and i had to use tweezers one. it was the most annoying thing in the world. but then i realized i have a bio titan and smiled
8927
Post by: Salted Diamond
daedalus wrote:Chimeras are painful, but by far the most annoying thing I've ever put together is Inquisitor Lord Karamazov. His lazy-boy is tons of pieces and unless you feel like pinning every joint, he falls apart first time he is bumped.
I am going thought that right now. I'm just starting my WH and have been trying to get him together.
12471
Post by: Buttlerthepug
While I know not many people have had to put this together, Im going to have to say the FW Chaos Dragon. When the wings that connect to the body dont line up because they are a quarter of an inch to long? That not only making it look odd but the details dont match up!
7818
Post by: Kreedos
Salted Diamond wrote:daedalus wrote:Chimeras are painful, but by far the most annoying thing I've ever put together is Inquisitor Lord Karamazov. His lazy-boy is tons of pieces and unless you feel like pinning every joint, he falls apart first time he is bumped.
I am going thought that right now. I'm just starting my WH and have been trying to get him together.
I had no problem with him, just use a ton of glue on his feet and midsection. The little flags on his back suck.
21954
Post by: EmperorsChampion
By far the LRC hurrican bolters rank #1
#2 Old eldar war walkers
#3 Empire general on griffon, that thing was a pain for me, I just remember his wings allways falling off.
Thats all I can think of, I just really wanted to say LRC bolters though, I hated those things!
21202
Post by: Commander Endova
Well Techmarine from the Thunderfire kit was a real pain. But simply because its the only complex metal model I own. I HATE superglue and metal. If it was plastic, it would have been a pleasure to assemble. I think the most flawed designs I've seen are the Elysian infantry. All the bits fit together in very specific ways, and the figures are all hunched over. Also, good luck modifying their weapons. All the left hands are molded onto the grip of the lasrifle, and the lasrifle is the same piece as the right arm. All the special weapons that come in the Elysian Special Weapon Pack are lose weapons. No molded on arms or hands. Have fun chopping! It really pissed me off, to be honest, and is probably why I haven;t invested more time, energy and money into the Elysian army I've wanted to do for about... forever. I mean, it's SO obvious. I honestly can't fathom how they overlooked something like that. EDIT: Also, yeah. Drop Pods. Out of the 4 pods I've made so far, I've only gotten one crooked door, so I'm overall happy with my results. it's just so dull having to do each step 5 times.
24105
Post by: Corvus
Wow looks like I've avoided the worst of things so far. Metal models definitely cause me the most grief. The only real difficulties I've had were
1) Necron Immortals: overall good, but the green rods usually don't like to fit well into their gun.
2) Necron Wraith: Massive Pauldrons are Massive and like to drop off before the glue can dry. Also, good luck posing the arms.
11440
Post by: Todosi
gregor_xenos wrote:1. Thunderfire Cannon
2. Monolith (hard to lap the sides)
3. oldschool LandSpeeder
4. Techmarine (the 5 part servoharness)
5. metal tankbustas (oh my gawd!)
but the WORST ive ever assembled was from.... Citadel miniatures???? a Dragon with dwarf rider and hanging basket (with 2 dwarfs)... called "the winds over Valhalla"
IT SUCKED!!!! end result was great tho.... the dragons body "hovered" 4 inches off a "V" shaped base thanks to 3 metal rods attached to em. The "gondola" hung by small chains. Wish I could find it again.....
That was an old Ral Partha kit and while a really cool looking kit, was a HUGE pain in the butt to assemble!
My worst is the current plastic Landspeeders. I swear those body sections will not fit right!
7900
Post by: Jupiter
For me it's the exorcist. I gave up on the pipes and used the whirlwind battery instead^^
20124
Post by: Neith
Jupiter wrote:For me it's the exorcist. I gave up on the pipes and used the whirlwind battery instead^^
Yeah, the Exorcist is a horrendous kit, especially since you get no instructions. I helped my brother build his, and while I didn't have any trouble with the organ pipes, the part that they sit onto (the U-shaped metal bit) just doesn't fit. I had to file it down, cut parts away from the Immolator body and swear repeatedly for about 30 minutes before it'd even fit.
Most of my models I pack into boxes/foam carrier cases, but I have a shelf 'devoted' to models that like to fall apart. Currently on it is the aforementioned Exorcist, a Hive Tyrant, 2 Greater Daemons, and a Blood Angels Honour Guard Standard Bearer. I imagine my FW Scythed Hierodule will take pride of place on that shelf too once I get to build it (had to send the main body back to FW because of damage).
20662
Post by: Hawkins
not a GW model but the old Battletech Maurauder.... so much pain you could cry.
21313
Post by: Vulcan
gregor_xenos wrote:1. Thunderfire Cannon
2. Monolith (hard to lap the sides)
3. oldschool LandSpeeder
4. Techmarine (the 5 part servoharness)
5. metal tankbustas (oh my gawd!)
but the WORST ive ever assembled was from.... Citadel miniatures???? a Dragon with dwarf rider and hanging basket (with 2 dwarfs)... called "the winds over Valhalla"
IT SUCKED!!!! end result was great tho.... the dragons body "hovered" 4 inches off a "V" shaped base thanks to 3 metal rods attached to em. The "gondola" hung by small chains. Wish I could find it again.....
I have that mini... I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I know I'm going to have to pin everything, and I'm going to use epoxy instead of CNA for the main joints. Anything else I should know about it?
13523
Post by: oggers
Deceiver.
12106
Post by: Nailz94
Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun...
19347
Post by: gregor_xenos
Vulcan wrote:gregor_xenos wrote:1. Thunderfire Cannon
2. Monolith (hard to lap the sides)
3. oldschool LandSpeeder
4. Techmarine (the 5 part servoharness)
5. metal tankbustas (oh my gawd!)
but the WORST ive ever assembled was from.... Citadel miniatures???? a Dragon with dwarf rider and hanging basket (with 2 dwarfs)... called "the winds over Valhalla"
IT SUCKED!!!! end result was great tho.... the dragons body "hovered" 4 inches off a "V" shaped base thanks to 3 metal rods attached to em. The "gondola" hung by small chains. Wish I could find it again.....
I have that mini... I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I know I'm going to have to pin everything, and I'm going to use epoxy instead of CNA for the main joints. Anything else I should know about it?
WINGS!!!!! These are Super-Heavy!!!! make sure you pin them with coat hanger sized pins (two if theyll fit) My first one, I trashed it in disqust..... probably my 3rd or 4th mini. It turned out FREAKIN AWSOME!!! but after the wings broke off three times, i got pissed. *what can I say, I was like 12*
8316
Post by: J.Black
That damnable Exorcist :(
A basic rhino kit with 18 separate metal pieces that require variously pinning/filing/un-warping/green-stuffing/cursing to get into position. Couple this with the lack of instructions and you're looking at at least a couple of frustrating evenings to get it assembled.
Oh, and it must weigh in at nearly a kilo when it's finished.
14055
Post by: 31rls31
killa kanz
they NEVER line up
12313
Post by: Ouze
Although I have little new to contribute, as they seem to be on everyone else's worst of:
Thunderfire Cannon. However, I read of other's travails beforehand and was prepared with my dremel tool and patience for that center collet.
Necron Immortals - this was the first metal minis I ever did, and I used no pins and epoxy. God. God. I still remember the rage. I've since switched to superglue and pins.
Necron Wraiths: I have a really hard time, even when pinning them, keeping the arms from falling off or breaking at thta joint.
__________________
That being said, these are still some of my favorite models.
20086
Post by: Andilus Greatsword
My worst was the damned Lord of the Rings troll with the club. His bloody arm kept breaking off, and I would have to put tons of super glue on to keep it in place.
12914
Post by: FoxPhoenix135
First up, a Ral Partha mini for Vor: The Maelstrom ( oop) Shard Eradicator: A giant metal model that had 6 arachnid-like legs that had to be individually pinned, and they had to support the massive weight of the rest of the model. The arms needed extensive cutting and pinning themselves, and my modeling skills were not all that refined at the time. 2nd: A tyranid Lictor. I have no idea why I had so much trouble with this particular miniature, but it took me forever to glue together what should have been an easy miniature. The arms were giving me trouble, and the torso kept breaking off from the legs. Very annoying. 3rd: Chimera kit. I never was able to do this model's tracks right without sitting in front of the "Step-by-step" directions on game workshops website.
10855
Post by: nyyman
How did I forget to mention the dreaded Drop Pod?
HOW THE HECK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KEEP THE UPPER PARTS IS ONE PIECE.
Fortunantely my friend was willing to assemble it for me.
But I'm afraid to move it since it WILL break down THE VERY SECOND I touch it.
23084
Post by: Captain Solon
Most annoying models to put together?
Thos models you get from the 'AOBR' model section.
not because they're bad quality. just... I dislike not being able to put them in our own positions.
Also, dreadnoughts need to have Multi-melta's (I realise that it's because they haven't updated them)
23483
Post by: skysky
I would go with the metal Bloodthirster because the wings and limbs are angled horribly for pinning.
My absolute bane so far is the Krootox, its like a  ing Picasso! Its a total piece of  . Its not just a fluke either I have three of them and they are all the same! The quality is just terrible.
14171
Post by: Gandair
KingCracker wrote:The worst for me was the basilisk. I put one together about.... 8 years ago (dunno if it has changed) but the instructions were vague at best, and I pretty much would have half of it done, before realizing it was put together wrong lol. That was a righteous pain in the ass.
Other then that, I always hated the oldschool rhinos. They were literally made, to not EVER go together evenly
I just recently bought one of those old rhinos from my FLGS. It was still in box and still on sprue without anything missing. I'm making it a predator since it's got all the pewter bits in it too and it's a complete pain. The turret wasn't unusually hard but the main body took hours and more glue than it should have. I had to quickly glue and then tightly press it together so that it aligned correctly. It amounted to me putting pressure on it from multiple odd angles to bend it into place while it dried. My arms hurt afterward but it worked. I hope the sponsons don't give me too much grief... *looks at them warily*
15359
Post by: Lextheimpaler
Forgeworld tanks, god i warping.
The armoured compartment on the medusa was horrible
14813
Post by: big mek boomsnikk
baal pred...just dont go near them
6750
Post by: 99MDeery
My votes go to these little pieces of frustration:
Tomb Kings Tomb Scorpions
Tomb Kings Screaming Skull Catapult - I opened the box and just put it away again hell no.
14529
Post by: Erasoketa
DE Talos. I own 2 and they are still unassembled in the box. They are going to have more pins and green stuff than white metal pieces.
I GW makes it in plastic someday, I'm going to buy like fifteen.
15735
Post by: Bash the Bosh
The AOBR Space Marine Squad....each marine came in 4 pieces!!! Took me 15 minutes to assemble all of them!! I didn't even have to use glue!! never again
15630
Post by: statu
The Drop Pod has so far been the worst model I have ever had to assemble, not one of the door interiors were completly straight
8927
Post by: Salted Diamond
big mek boomsnikk wrote:baal pred...just dont go near them
What kind of issues did you have? Mine was no problem.
19146
Post by: brother_zach
I'm definately gonna go with Kans and deff dreds when they were pewter. Genius idea GW, take a 2 pound can and balance it on two thin legs. Combine that with the fact that the deff dred didn't come with a base, and I had a problem. Then, I just happened to run out of super glue, I was fuming. I resorted to just using green stuff, and on several occasoins that 2 pound soda can almost went towards the wall. The only thing stopping me was the knoldedge that there were no studs in my house >_<
23342
Post by: Curly
Galrauch the chaos dragon, nuff said.
10097
Post by: Ensis Ferrae
statu wrote:The Drop Pod has so far been the worst model I have ever had to assemble, not one of the door interiors were completly straight
while the Drop pod was pretty annoying to me, mine actually went together relatively smoothly.
1047
Post by: Defiler
Constructing, and Pinning an entire Daemon Prince model with wings.
I want those 5 hours of my life back. ( x2)
10906
Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Commander Endova wrote:
I think the most flawed designs I've seen are the Elysian infantry. All the bits fit together in very specific ways, and the figures are all hunched over.
Also, good luck modifying their weapons. All the left hands are molded onto the grip of the lasrifle, and the lasrifle is the same piece as the right arm. All the special weapons that come in the Elysian Special Weapon Pack are lose weapons. No molded on arms or hands. Have fun chopping!
It really pissed me off, to be honest, and is probably why I haven;t invested more time, energy and money into the Elysian army I've wanted to do for about... forever. I mean, it's SO obvious. I honestly can't fathom how they overlooked something like that.
Elysians, while un-modifiable, are not hard to put together if you build them the way they are in their packs standard.
On topic though, the worst models I've had the displeasure to work with thus far are;
The Plastic/Pewter Hybrid Land Raider Crusader, the gorramn guns didn't wanna go together and then the hull didn't wanna go together properly either, that fether got thrown across the room. Then it went together.
Pewter/Plastic Hybrid Long Fangs, the things had huge fething gaps between the weapons and the left arms which are supposed to be holding onto them.
15894
Post by: Mistress of minis
The all metal Empire Steam Tank. Any model that takes a 12" ribbon of GS, 3/4 oz of ca glue, a bottle of insta set, 4 screws, and some JB Kwik Weld was just a test to see if I would use duct tape on a model or not.
Every other model Ive worked with you could usually heat, bend or file the ill fitting pieces into behaving
15120
Post by: ooglatjama
Ogre kingdoms scraplauncher Automatically Appended Next Post: Erasoketa wrote:DE Talos. I own 2 and they are still unassembled in the box. They are going to have more pins and green stuff than white metal pieces.
I GW makes it in plastic someday, I'm going to buy like fifteen.
Oh my god! Those  ing arms are so stupid, they break off all the time!
19347
Post by: gregor_xenos
brother_zach wrote: The only thing stopping me was the knoldedge that there were no studs in my house >_<
Wow.... Low self-esteem, huh?! HUR HUR HUR
10895
Post by: Ironhide
The OOP metal SM Devastators from 3rd edition. Getting the weapons to line up with the backpacks is near impossible.
7013
Post by: Ifurita
Necron Monolith. Big flat pieces that tend to warp a bit and have to be assembled really fast to make sure it all fits together.
9378
Post by: Frostreaver
The plastic landspeeder kit with the metal weapons. The metal bits weren't the problem, it was the body. Nothing lined up and there was huge gaps. I hated it so much I took it of my army and haven't fielded one since.
19146
Post by: brother_zach
gregor_xenos wrote:brother_zach wrote: The only thing stopping me was the knoldedge that there were no studs in my house >_<
Wow.... Low self-esteem, huh?! HUR HUR HUR
Well when your dad buys a nice house and threatens your life if you ever intentionally mess it up, you kinda think before you just throw a solid pewter can through a wall.
Also, I'd have to agree with the OOP devistators, not only were the weapon combinations completely stupid but they seemed to be porrly produced.
Another one that annoyed me was my OOP whirlwind, even when assembled , it wants to pop a wheelie and look stupid in the middle of combat. I love having the model though especiall after I repainted it.
15248
Post by: Eldar Own
THAT DAMNED HYDRA!! *grumble, grumble*
23333
Post by: grantosjones
I've had hundreds of models that have given me hell - the worst was a Rebel Grot vehicle (Cutta, I believe) that went together relatively easily, but when I was looking down the mast to make sure it wasn't warped I managed to glue the crows nest to my eyelid....
The problems I've always found are gluing plastic to metal or vice-versa... the old dire avengers and the storm guardians are a pet hate of mine.
10694
Post by: jamunition
The new beastman doombull looks horrible...
17 parts, all metal!
19146
Post by: brother_zach
jamunition wrote:The new beastman doombull looks horrible...
17 parts, all metal!
Indeed it does.
With that being said, has anyone put together the pyrovore? Looked too me like it would wanna be unbalanced.
12914
Post by: FoxPhoenix135
Ok, I got another one. The valkyrie's door guns are ridiculously fragile, and prompted me to replace them with tripod mounts.
19146
Post by: brother_zach
FoxPhoenix135 wrote:Ok, I got another one. The valkyrie's door guns are ridiculously fragile, and prompted me to replace them with tripod mounts.
One of mine did fall out, I was pretty pissed.
12914
Post by: FoxPhoenix135
Yeah, the HWT tripod guns work fine if you put the long leg towards the door, touching the wall, and one of the short legs touching the same wall towards the cockpit. Just don't glue the bolters to the tripods, and they rotate fine.
20102
Post by: Unistrut
Like a previous poster I had problems with Spontaneous Lictor Arm Separation, but I was able to fix it by using epoxy instead of superglue.
I've never liked the new plastic Burna Boys. They look bad and it's a pain getting the tanks, tank straps, gun and gun arm all lined up. Bob help you if you want to your troops to actually be posed differently. It's faster, easier, cheaper and more fun to take a spare plastic shoota boy, mod his gun to look flamethrowery and then mod up some tanks for him (if you, a friend or parent shoots .22 short the spent shell casings make excellent burna tanks, and since they can't be reloaded usually no-one else really wants them) and use that instead.
It's just insult added to injury when a model is a pain to assemble and then when you're done you look at it and "that's it? I went through all that annoyance for THIS?"
10217
Post by: rlsquared2
Natorum wrote:Chaos Obliterators. Just a terrible kit and almost a must have for many competitive lists.
Saw the topic anD was going to say the same thing! I have 6 of these 120 bucks investment and just now I found out converting terminators is cheaper and look better if done right :(.
Right now im looking at my HT box and I'm scared...big heavy pieces mean lots of time me trying to pin them :(
23885
Post by: tankworks
I find that any GW model compared to any other manufacturer is more difficult to construct.
10217
Post by: rlsquared2
tankworks wrote:I find that any GW model compared to any other manufacturer is more difficult to construct.
No way! Horde models from Pirateer press never fit correctly. They practicly force you to pin them. But.. then again a lot of other companies putter models are 1 piece
15042
Post by: Son of Odin
1- Tomb Kings, Tomb scorpion - Trying to get this thing to stand on the tiny little legs was horrible.
2- Tomb Kings, Screaming Skull Catapult - This has to be the worst model ever. Every piece relies on 8 other pieces to be in the right place before it can be glued. Assembled one, has another that I haven't even opened the box on.
3- Skorne, Cyclops Savage - The hands holding the sword will never line up with the arms, ever.
4- Skorne, Titan Gladiator - There is a gap in this model's torso that I can see through...
5- BFG, Plant Killer - Not really the assembly, but trying to find a way to balance this thing on a flying base, still haven't been able to yet...
7010
Post by: enmitee
Galrauch, First of the Chaos Dragons.:(
23894
Post by: landingshortly
Everybody speaking here without naming this one model have not seen what horrors GW created yet:
- Witchhunters Exorcist. The rhino chassis is okay but apart from that it comes with nearly a kilo of metal (well, ... at least a gakload!) and those pieces don't fit together. Another thing that makes this model so annoying is the lack of a construction manual. You have so many metal pieces there and GW does not even tell you where to place them? Awesome indee.
22414
Post by: RaegMachine
Ork nobz and That Fu*king big choppa
23558
Post by: zedmeister
I had massive trouble with the Capitol Imperialis (for those that don't know, it was a huge war machine used for transporting IG companies in Epic). The model was sculpted slightly lob-sided. It was a right bugger to assemble and no matter how hard you tried, there was a huge gap. You adjusted the side pieces to close that gap and another would appear. Then the rear ramp didn't fit. Then the front ramp didn't fit. Then the original gap would re-appear. I wasted half a tube of superglue and debonder assembling that before admitting defeat and buying some milliput to fill the holes!
Also, the original Mk7 SM devstators that came out during 2nd edition 40k were a pain. They had metal weapons, plastic arms and metal bodies that you had to assemble using a variety of pins to make sure that it didn't fall apart when it was used.
10097
Post by: Ensis Ferrae
tankworks wrote:I find that any GW model compared to any other manufacturer is more difficult to construct.
while i cant say for sure for any other miniatures wargaming company, when compared to Tamiya, GW is downright poor in comparison. Of course, Tamiya models arent for wargaming, they're static display scale models, and probably one of the best companies for that out there.
15359
Post by: Lextheimpaler
Yesterday i (attemepted) assembled my FW medusa, OMG what a piece of S$%^ worst model i have ever done. So many problems had to seal it up and could even display the interior every pice didnt fit even after filing and GS horrible. SHAME FW SHAME ON YOU
24732
Post by: Delta Squad 98
marnues calgar is a pain in the butt
22104
Post by: Bramnero
I think we can all safely agree that metal models where you need to attach a hand to a wrist, is easily one of the most frustrating things.
9454
Post by: Mattlov
Anything Forge World with more than 5 pieces.
Like the Khorne Daemon Prince, which is FORTY PIECES. Go to the FW site. Try to guess all the pieces.
Solomon Lok's Servo-skull is likewise a massive pain in the ass.
5421
Post by: JohnHwangDD
Most annoying build:
Ghazkull in Mega Armor. A zillion pins, and a ton of filing.
On the plus side, I sharpened his horns, so you could impale him into your opponent if you had to!
24443
Post by: Blitza da warboy
Most annoying veichle: Drop pod, the  ing middle part always was a pain to get together straight
most annoying plastic model: burna boys, cable doesnt connect to back pack, arm which holds is hard to sit perfectly.
most annoying metal model: Killa Kans ,fell down alot since i cant pin :/ (any good tutorials which you know of?)
22669
Post by: B3nSav
I have a couple-mostly Eldar
Seer Council
Shining Spears- just wouldn't glue
Stompa
Dire Avengers- didn't fit right and the amount of pieces compared to a space marine or Ork is incredible.
Ghazgull was pretty annoying, too. i helped my Ork friend with him.
22761
Post by: Kurgash
personally the model i hated to build myself was the Hellcannon....OMG so many different pieces taht didn't lineup correctly. Greenstuff became my best friend after that mess.
Helped my friend build some Zoanthropes a long time ago and the memories still haunt me of bases not fitting, the top half falling apart and the head barely making it balanced
8316
Post by: J.Black
landingshortly wrote:Everybody speaking here without naming this one model have not seen what horrors GW created yet:
- Witchhunters Exorcist. The rhino chassis is okay but apart from that it comes with nearly a kilo of metal (well, ... at least a gakload!) and those pieces don't fit together. Another thing that makes this model so annoying is the lack of a construction manual. You have so many metal pieces there and GW does not even tell you where to place them? Awesome indee.
The lack of instructions, whilst annoying, is far from the worst part. Almost every single piece is warped in some way and requires a good hour or so to bend into the right shape, plus you'll need to use a ton of GS to fill in all the gaps :(
Looks amazing when it's finished though
8305
Post by: Daba
Bramnero wrote:I think we can all safely agree that metal models where you need to attach a hand to a wrist, is easily one of the most frustrating things.
Really? I find doing that quite easy since the two parts can be made to fit together quite easily. Compared with a big metal model like the Hellcannon, Chaos Chariot or the metal parts of the Fire Prism where the parts don't fit together well. You need to bust out the file and/or start bending the parts before even starting to pin and gap fill.
24687
Post by: JDM
LOTR gondor trebuchet..... GAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
24551
Post by: A Carmine FTW
I hated putting together my first necron monolith.
24105
Post by: Corvus
I just got a Monolith today and put it together. God help you if one of those side panels warps in even the slightest bit. I had to use a match to heat the plastic enough that I could bend it back into its proper shape, and even then I had to hold the edges together with duct tape while the glue dried.
24551
Post by: A Carmine FTW
Yah exactly I had to use a crapload of rubberbands. The plastic always warps
10972
Post by: Ruglud
The original metal Empire Steam Tank, god awful to glue together and terrible casting resulting in big gaps needing copius amounts of Miliput (pre-greenstuff days).
But the most frustrating model has to be the original Balrog from the '80s LOTR collection. It was a beast of a model and I hadn't heard of pinning so just slabbed on the Araldite, but the damned joints wouldn't hold no matter what I did. Ended up swapping the model for a Wood Elf Prince riding a Dragon that I was going to convert for my Empire army, still got it somewhere, but wish I could get the Balrog back. For all its faults it was a glorious model (or at least the version on the box was!).
15208
Post by: nintendoeats
I hate all metal models with a passion. This goes doubly for the metal grots. Worst idea in history. Why would you only make 5 or so different versions of something which is typicly fielded in units of 30? I'm glad they switched to plastic before I had completed my unit.
Also, the instructions for the Ork Trukk tell you to put the guys in after the rest of the trukk is put together. Problem is that at that point there is no room to put the steering wheel and such in. Christ that was infurating.
Yes I should have read the instructions. Automatically Appended Next Post: B3nSav wrote:Ghazgull was pretty annoying, too. i helped my Ork friend with him.
Mine has come apart a few times (I think I have it together good this time though. No disasters yet)
But those Horns and the Stikkbomb Chukkas, not only will they not stay on but they look absurda at least the horns do. I just left those off.
10895
Post by: Ironhide
nintendoeats wrote:I hate all metal models with a passion. This goes doubly for the metal grots. Worst idea in history. Why would you only make 5 or so different versions of something which is typicly fielded in units of 30? I'm glad they switched to plastic before I had completed my unit.
In second edition, grots were plastic, but only had one pose.
21664
Post by: poipo32
Chaos Daemons Gargoyles, I think I'll never get the wings on those, I have them since 2007 and whenever I got the wings to stay on a model transport would kill them.
15208
Post by: nintendoeats
Ironhide wrote:In second edition, grots were plastic, but only had one pose.
I can't decide which is better. Damn them.
|
|