So about a year and a half ago I started into the hobby with IG. My first army grew massive and then I decided to see what else 40k had to offer and I sold and traded them off for several other armies. Everyone used to commented how much they looked like police with the paint scheme I used and I wanted to revisit them with my improved (not perfected) modeling and paint skills. When a local player sold me 50 primed IG for an assault squad I had laying around and $7 I was hooked.

Heres a little bit about the army I am going to create. I want a swat style army with pleanty of 40 flare. I am not going to try to match current swat models, rather use them for inspiration while trying to create "Cadian Swat: Xeno Task Force". The army will be made using concepts from the all to popular loved/hated leafblower scaled down to 1500 points. The army will be based on the current 40k range with the idea of keeping the army tournament legal becuase I am sure I will sell it one day.

I will first start with the vehicles as they are the bread and butter of this list, but fear not as I have some great ideas for the troops as well.

The project:
4x Swat APCs with .50 cal guns
1x Swat APC with .50 cal and a LRAD. (For psyker battle squad aka:LRAD team)The fluff is the squad uses the LRAD to make units run. Google: Long range acustic device for more info.
1x Manticore, Chimera with large sattelite dish and lots of radars. The fluff is its used to call in air strikes on the target.
2x Medusa, Chimera with swive rocket launcher mounts.
1x Valkyire converted to helicopter with apache style wing weapon mounts.

Project #1

Develop a Swat Inspired APC Chimera. x 4

Here is the picture that I used for inspiration, keep in mind I am not going to copy it, rather borrow ideas. (It was embedded until it was removed from my dakka gallery.)
http://www.joebrower.com/PHILE_PILE/PIX/JBTS/Charleston_APC.jpg

The first part of this project would require me to remove the raised areas at the top of the chimera kit. At first I tryed using a file. I was left with a very rough surface. Deciding this wasn't going to work I pulled out the Black and Decker mouse sander. Using 180 grit paper I quickly sanded away the turrent mount, back hatch and lasgun sponsons. I was left with this.



As you can see its a bit rough but I will worry about that on the final sand. Next step was to place some card so that I could fill the gaps with green stuff.



I filled in the gaps with green stuff (first time gap filling) and left it to dry for the final sanding.



Next it was time for the final sand. I again used the mouse sander this time loaded out with 240 grit paper to get a nice smooth surface.



Update 4/18/2010

Alright I put some more work into these chimeras with a deadline (self set) for completion by Wednesday.

First up, I have assembled and primed the hull of the chimera. Taking three of these things off the sprue, assembling them, running out of glue and giving them a bath before priming took some time. In the end the results are already starting to show. You should notice it has a nice smooth profile where the turret mount and lasgun sponsons used to be.


After that I got busy assembling the lights that should add that extra "bling" to the table. You can see a picture of them in action here at http://www.policecarmodels.com/miliflsyforp.html The video hardely does them justice. I picked two packs of lights (6 lightbars) and 4 battery clips. I will have to pick up a few more before this project is done.


I had to make a mounting plate for the lightbar using plasticard. It was simple to attach to the inside of the turret however; I did cut my hand when a piece of plastic came loose. Nothing serious but its the second cut so far on this project...


Last step for today was using greenstuff to attach the lightbar to the mounting plate. All in all test fit looks good and the lights are amazing.


Update 4/19/2010

Alright, to continue with my timeline I put in some more work. I am one pictures short as I added a clear window over the turret that I mounted the light bar. I would have posted a picture but its clear and not worth the extra work.

I added some decals using the testors decal system. It basically consists of printing your graphics on waterside paper then sealing it to prevent the ink from running off. Sounds easy right? I'll share a bit of my experience. First I bought Supercal decal system. The box was short on paper, the spray can had zero propellent and the ink still had not dried after a week. What a waste. So next up was testor. It was about 10 dollars less so a good deal over all. Since I would be putting white letters over black I picked up the white paper and filled in the background with black. Next up was trying to get it to print. I just got a new printer and it was having some major set backs. Once I finally tuned it in the black ink was low and I ended up with white lines running through the black. Not a big deal as I can just fill them in with some paint but over all it was a pain. The good news though, I have it dialed in and can easly make decals now and the results are well worth it as you will see below.

Ok so here is the picture. Its rough now as I have just added the decals. Once they are dry I will do my best to blend them and the matte finish should take the gloss right out of them.



Update 4/20/2010

Today I managed to get the turrets mounted and a few bits glued on. Everything is primed out and ready for some paint. I want to keep the SWAT feel so painting will be limited. The turret guns will be mounted once I decide on which one I am going to use. I have a .50 cal but its 1/43 scale and a little on the small side but I love the look. My other option is the pintel mounted heavy stubba with the end clipped and replaced with the multilaser tip on it. Its a bit larger then I like and it doesn't fit my weapon upgrades theme. I think I am going to stick to the .50 but we'll see.



Here is a picture of them all lit up. Its even better in person. This picture gives a good mix of blue, red and one transition shot. I have to have a video of them up soon with the lights going. (Not the best quality though)



Updated 4/26/2010

Ok so here is the final painted version. The paint is not complex nor detailed. The goal was to keep it simple. The metal is boltgun metal with black wash. The flamer got some additonal tin bitz as it adds a slightly burned look to it. The ammo box got a green paintjob.






Alright, there it is. Thoughts? Comments?

The Medusa project has begun, check page 2 for the first glimpse.

Can't wait to see what you do with this

I am so tempted to put up the first completed model but I want to get the other work that went into it posted first.

nice work- I wanted to change my Vindicator a little bit so i bought some 1/35 scale zimmerit-(sp) plastic sheets and cut and filed them to fit on the panels of the model- It worked really well for me. I like what you are doing. BTW - is that a .50 sniper rifle on top of the swat bus?

The inspiration pictures uses the sniper, I am going to use a machine gun as it will more accuratley represent the 3 shots per turn the multilaser gets.

I am impressed by this already, in part due to the effort you're going through just to make them look perfect. I will definitely keep an eye on this.

WOOT got to love the M113 APC. Can't wait to see how you do this conversion.

I'm liking the initial concepts very much!
I have to say that I'm glad you've smoothed the Chimeras down. I always found them too lumpy myself.

I did a SWAT team a few years back but I kinda lost em It was nothing as ambitious as this though.

Nice, my riot shield guard look scarily like the pic.

*subscribe*

cosmic pixie wrote:Nice, my riot shield guard look scarily like the pic.

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I picked up 20 riot shields for my platoon. I will put one up here as soon as this batch of Chimera's are complete.

I want more of this cake!!!

It is courageous to start with a vehicle.

w0chtulka wrote:I want more of this cake!!!

It is courageous to start with a vehicle.

I picked up two chimeras to start. Things went very well with the first so I picked up a 6 pack of chimeras for $146 from my local game store, no tax. I hope to have the first 4 chimeras done before Wednesday. That are set up nice with flashing lights and all.

Though I love what your doing, I don't like the idea of EVERY member of a platoon having a riot shield. Usuall, the lead man carrys one, unless there is of course a riot lol.

Mabe trying some dynamic posing is in order. Make guardsmen appear as if their "stacking up"(getting in line to breach a door, like in Rainbow 6) would do the trick.

Can't wait to see more.

brother_zach wrote:Though I love what your doing, I don't like the idea of EVERY member of a platoon having a riot shield. Usuall, the lead man carrys one, unless there is of course a riot lol.

Mabe trying some dynamic posing is in order. Make guardsmen appear as if their "stacking up"(getting in line to breach a door, like in Rainbow 6) would do the trick.

Can't wait to see more.

Not a bad idea to keep in mind. Might make it weapon poses look better if they have two hands free.

Brother Zach is indeed correct. The point man will sometimes (not always) carry a Level III Ballistic Shield.

Now you cannot hold and fire an assault rifle in 1 hand. It doesn't work.

So what if you make your sergeants with shields and laspistols? A shield is a CCW after all

Iron_Chaos_Brute wrote:Brother Zach is indeed correct. The point man will sometimes (not always) carry a Level III Ballistic Shield.

Now you cannot hold and fire an assault rifle in 1 hand. It doesn't work.

So what if you make your sergeants with shields and laspistols? A shield is a CCW after all

Sound sold to me. I will take a crouching IG with the shield and a pistol I picked up from theassaultgroup.com. The regulars will have M16s with under slung shotguns and the auto cannon team has a .50 cal. That should do well for two squads of ten. The hard part will be trying to get a more dynamic pose as if they were stacked up ready for entry.


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Just a quick update, two of the 3 tanks have the hull assembled and I will pick up some more glue tomorrow and get them primed. Pics again sometime tomorrow evening.

Do you plan on getting some MP5 for your guys??? And maybe some small ones (those with small magazine and short barrel) for shield guys. That would look badass.

w0chtulka wrote:Do you plan on getting some MP5 for your guys??? And maybe some small ones (those with small magazine and short barrel) for shield guys. That would look badass.

I was trying to get through the vehicles first, but since everyone keeps asking I will throw some pictures of the weapons the troops have in a bit. Here is the breakdown of weapons:

Platoon troops
-Sargent, riot shield& pistol
-Platoon troops, M16 w/ underslung shotgun
-Autocannon teams, .50cal w/ bipod

Veteran squad
-Vet trops, HK MP5
-Meltaguns, M16 w/ underslung M20

CCS
-Plamaguns, M60E3 Machinguns

The only troops I have yet to figure out is the flamthrowers. But I am sure I will figure it out.

Last night, I had the idea of using pieces of a cities of death building to serve as a wall where your team could stack up. Might take some experimenting, but it might work for modeling your guys as if they are stacked. It also gives you room to work on some guardsmen shooting around corners.

Thats excellent idea here.. i recommend using it. This army is going to love some scenic basing. Some objective hostages would be totally awesome too...

brother_zach wrote:Last night, I had the idea of using pieces of a cities of death building to serve as a wall where your team could stack up. Might take some experimenting, but it might work for modeling your guys as if they are stacked. It also gives you room to work on some guardsmen shooting around corners.

I am far from an expert but I usually build a display board for the armies I have. With this on it might be a bit harder but something I am definitly considering once it is complete.

Now this is a damn cool idea! A good start, i'll be keepig an eye on this one.

Scenic Bases FTW. I kind of wish that I had done that for mine.

MOAR pleez

I vil be vatchink very closely.

I was contemplating building something similar for my Necro' gang, so I will be paying particular attention to this log. I like the look of the smooth topped APC, will you be putting hatches, webbing and baggage uptop?

hyperviper6 wrote:

w0chtulka wrote:Do you plan on getting some MP5 for your guys??? And maybe some small ones (those with small magazine and short barrel) for shield guys. That would look badass.

I was trying to get through the vehicles first, but since everyone keeps asking I will throw some pictures of the weapons the troops have in a bit. Here is the breakdown of weapons:

Platoon troops
-Sargent, riot shield& pistol
-Platoon troops, M16 w/ underslung shotgun
-Autocannon teams, .50cal w/ bipod

Veteran squad
-Vet trops, HK MP5
-Meltaguns, M16 w/ underslung M20

CCS
-Plamaguns, M60E3 Machinguns

The only troops I have yet to figure out is the flamthrowers. But I am sure I will figure it out.

@ w0chtulka: MP5K? Doesn't have a smaller mag, though, IIRC. Furthermore, they aren't fireable with one hand while you're holding a shield. Those shields are heavy, and you can't control something on full auto with one hand. Using semi, you might as well use a pistol since it weighs less.

@hyperviper: Why RAS shotguns? I think M16s/4s would be fine as is for lasguns.
Love M2s as autocannons, but they feel a bit "heavy" for SWAT. You don't really have other options, though
I assume you mean M203s for meltas. AT4s or SLAWs would be too "heavy", again, but an M203 can't really punch armor. See above about "options", though.
For the plasmas, why M60s instead of 240s or 249s? And then why E3s instead of the newer E4s?

I'm just nitpicking because you seem to be holding yourself to a high realistic standard.

And what you have planned is excessive for SWAT, but the idea is damn cool (as are the conversions thus far) so you're forgiven

I'll see if I can rustle up a SWAT kitlist in a little while...

EDIT-Here we go:
Class III Ballistic Helmet.
Black Nomex balaclava.
Black flame-retardant jumpsuit.
Black boots.
Heavy assault vest or Plate Carrier (often w/ shoulder and groin armor).
Primary weapon (usually MP5).
3-point sling.
5 mags (2 linked).
2 flashbangs.
9mm.
3 mags.
Black pistol belt.
Left thigh rig-SMG/AR mag, flash, flash.
Right thigh holster-9mm.
Electronic ear protection, linked to radio.
Gloves (Nomex or Kevlar for flash/fire protection, often knuckle insert).
Black dump pouch.
Knee/Elbow pads.
Gas Mask/pouch.
Tie-ties.

@Iron_Chaos_Brute

I guess I may have over stated my ambitions in the title. I intend to make a xeno swat force inspired by modern swat. Their weapons are based on the line from theassaultgroup.com as they are readily availible. They will have equipment much more advanced then regular swat as they have to deal with xeno forces. That said, I have high expectations for the vehicle while average for the troops as I am using second hand aka: recycled IG for this project.

I still expect an amazing project but not near some of the stuff I see here in Dakka.

With that reguards, thanks for the detailed info and I am always open to suggestions as you guys have provided some great ones already.

hyperviper6 wrote:@Iron_Chaos_Brute

I guess I may have over stated my ambitions in the title. I intend to make a xeno swat force inspired by modern swat. Their weapons are based on the line from theassaultgroup.com as they are readily availible. They will have equipment much more advanced then regular swat as they have to deal with xeno forces. That said, I have high expectations for the vehicle while average for the troops as I am using second hand aka: recycled IG for this project.

I still expect an amazing project but not near some of the stuff I see here in Dakka.

With that reguards, thanks for the detailed info and I am always open to suggestions as you guys have provided some great ones already.

OK, I gotcha. I'll go back to Oohing and Aahing.

Alright so a new and fun update for you guys.I am off to bed.

Where is that update??


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Ah found it... being on the top it was little bit confusing ) APCs look great.

New updates at the top of the page. Progress is on schedule. Check out the lights in action!

Very, very nice. Loving the tactically correct lighting

Any thoughts on what I could use as the "multilaser"? I bought 1:43 scale .50 cal's but they are a bit under sized and is there a better weapon that should be mounted? If so please also make sure its availible in scale that coud be used.

Definitely looking forward to keeping up with this project!

Dunno for the multilaser... especially where are you gonna mount it... stubber idea is good. What about a megafon mounted somewhere? Will there be a video?? That would be totally badass

Ok so for the second project I decided to go with the Medusa. There are 3 powerful tanks in this army that fall outside of normal S.W.A.T., but keep in mind S.W.A.T. isn't the Xeno Task Force. They do not have to shoot down giant aliens and enemy grav tanks. So a little imagination will be required for the 3 heavy tanks in the army. The rest should fit the bill a bit better.

The inspiration
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/weaponry2.gif

So to start with I used a drill to place a plastic rod into the rear of the chimera. This will provide a support for the hinge I want to make.


Place a larger plastic tube over it and we have our moving hinge.


I made the missile launcher from card and tube and drilled out a front firing plate for the tubes to slide in.


You can see at the rear that this was built over the larger tube that will serve as the hinge.


A few test fits and some sanding and here we are.


Once the magnets are installed the Medusa will be able to remain in the open postion or closed.



So there it is so far. I will be adding missie to the tubes once the project is done. I know they are a bit uneven but its the best I could do with my skill level.

I still have some work to do and a second one to make so keep checking in for updates.

Thoughts? Comments? (Future updates will be added to the end of the thread so I can get more opinion and thoughts as I move forward.)

Updates pg 1 and 2. Check them out and leave some comments.

Wow. Just wow. Very creative. Cant wait to see what comes next.

Very nice

I have to say that I love that style of rocket launcher and it is good to see one integrated into the vehicle so well. You might want to add big exhausts to the rear end/top back section for the rocket exhaust to escape through.

If this were a regular themed IG army, I would advise adding some rivets and Imperial Eagles etc, but the plain look you have for your vehicles rules this out (not that it is bad, just inconsistent with what I would normally suggest ).

dude! i can imagine now someone with those chimeras playing with it like a toy car and when they switch the light on they go "PEW-PEW".

Absolutely wonderful medusa idea, much better than the 4 flipping targets on the back.

Marine: "Sir! They've got a medusa!"
Srgt: "That tank with the huge payload strapped to the top that's clearly visible with no armor plating!?"
Marine: "Yessir! Orders!?"
Srgt: *smack* "Shoot the tracks of course!"

Cant wait to see more

LucasLAD wrote:Absolutely wonderful medusa idea, much better than the 4 flipping targets on the back.

Marine: "Sir! They've got a medusa!"
Srgt: "That tank with the huge payload strapped to the top that's clearly visible with no armor plating!?"
Marine: "Yessir! Orders!?"
Srgt: *smack* "Shoot the tracks of course!"

Haha, got a good laugh out of that. The tank should have some additional rules. If the tank blows up all units within X distance take a S10 Ap4 hit. X= 1D6 per remaining missile when it blew up.

I should say though, you are thinking of the Manticore not the Medusa. While this would be a great Manticore, due to the fact I used 4 missile tubes, I have reserved the manticore for a differnt project. Since the manticore drops d3 templates I thought it would serve better as a command base for calling in air stirkes. Thus sattelite dish and radar dishes will make up the bulk of my manticore.

hyperviper6 wrote:

LucasLAD wrote:Absolutely wonderful medusa idea, much better than the 4 flipping targets on the back.

Marine: "Sir! They've got a medusa!"
Srgt: "That tank with the huge payload strapped to the top that's clearly visible with no armor plating!?"
Marine: "Yessir! Orders!?"
Srgt: *smack* "Shoot the tracks of course!"

Haha, got a good laugh out of that. The tank should have some additional rules. If the tank blows up all units within X distance take a S10 Ap4 hit. X= 1D6 per remaining missile when it blew up.

I should say though, you are thinking of the Manticore not the Medusa. While this would be a great Manticore, due to the fact I used 4 missile tubes, I have reserved the manticore for a differnt project. Since the manticore drops d3 templates I thought it would serve better as a command base for calling in air stirkes. Thus sattelite dish and radar dishes will make up the bulk of my manticore.

Its ok I hate guard all the same

That doesnt detract from your awesome models and obvious skills, I'm looking forward to more of this

Really nice, are you going to have any men?

Young_Logan wrote:Really nice, are you going to have any men?

Yes, they are comming once the tanks are done. Modern weaponary M16's, machine guns and the whole 9 yards I hope. They will test my skill a bit more then these tank as its much harder to model a guy then to file a tank.

True, well good luck, looking forward to seeing them

AWESOME!

I appriciate the speed you are completing your stuff. Go on.

Wow that missile launcher is sick! Brilliant idea using the hull to hide the launcher!

Very cool tank.

i like the inspiration and the excecution, keep it up.

I got an idea. If you plan on using autocannons you could make "sniper team" with one shooter (having some BIG semi automatic sniper rifle like Barret) and spotter ... yes 2 rounds per turn is a lot but it would look cool. Considering sniper rifles are pretty weak in warhammer this would give some justice.

w0chtulka wrote:I got an idea. If you plan on using autocannons you could make "sniper team" with one shooter (having some BIG semi automatic sniper rifle like Barret) and spotter ... yes 2 rounds per turn is a lot but it would look cool. Considering sniper rifles are pretty weak in warhammer this would give some justice.

I actually like this idea. I purchased a few sniper rifles when I picked up the other bits so I have some barret's with some decent scopes. S7 w/ two shots is hard to pull from a sniper, but hey its my conversion! I was trying to figure out how I could fit them in. It would also free up some .50's for the tank so I don't have to order more.


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I think it's time I subscribed to this thread!

Don't know much about weaponry etc. but the idea of using sniper teams as autocannons sounds cool to me,
if I were playing against your army I wouldn't see any reason why they couldn't have 2 shots. They're Heavy, not Assault so they have to stand still to be able to shoot, after all.
Hope this made some sense

hyperviper6 wrote:

w0chtulka wrote:I got an idea. If you plan on using autocannons you could make "sniper team" with one shooter (having some BIG semi automatic sniper rifle like Barret) and spotter ... yes 2 rounds per turn is a lot but it would look cool. Considering sniper rifles are pretty weak in warhammer this would give some justice.

I actually like this idea. I purchased a few sniper rifles when I picked up the other bits so I have some barret's with some decent scopes. S7 w/ two shots is hard to pull from a sniper, but hey its my conversion! I was trying to figure out how I could fit them in. It would also free up some .50's for the tank so I don't have to order more.


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A Barrett will punch armor just as well as an M2. Same caliber and everything. Barretts have a shorter barrel and hence lower muzzle velocity, but not by much. OTOH, a Barrett is more likely to be chambered in HEAT than an M2, especially if the primary mission is antimaterial.


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@Iron_Chaos_Brute

Thanks for the information. That will make the decision even easier. I am excited about this change. Thanks again to w0chtulka for the suggestion.

I love the concept all around on this.You have some stellar conversions. The only real thing lacking on those tanks is you some edge highlights or something as they are just severly plain. Maybe even a little dmg who knows.

Empchild wrote:I love the concept all around on this.You have some stellar conversions. The only real thing lacking on those tanks is you some edge highlights or something as they are just severly plain. Maybe even a little dmg who knows.

Once the army is done I will go back and add highlights and details. For now its about getting it up an running while looking good.

I actually like the smoothness of the paint. I think leaving those vehicles without highlights might be better as it just fits the swat spirit IMO.

Loving the rockets. I think the missile tubes need some of the guard missiles sticking in, so you can see the cones down the tubes.

I'd also consider filling in the rectangular hole in the top of the chimera chassis and mounting some sort of targetting array, such as the one you get int he new Chimera kit, on top

endtransmission wrote:Loving the rockets. I think the missile tubes need some of the guard missiles sticking in, so you can see the cones down the tubes.

I'd also consider filling in the rectangular hole in the top of the chimera chassis and mounting some sort of targetting array, such as the one you get int he new Chimera kit, on top

The tubing for the missile slots was sized and purchased so that I can add the missiles. I want to get a basic coat of paint of them so I don't have to try to paint them in the tube.

I orignally was going to add the radar where the retangle is but I found that the missiles would blow it off if they fired. In hindsight I wish I had filled it in with greenstuff.

for the square hatch i would suggest cutting off those bits (parts of hatch) a smoothing the area on the plastic card with green stuff.

These guys look great. I love the chimeras but I feel like the tops are too "smooth" .. like maybe they need some rivets to match the sides? or else, less rivets on the sides so they match the tops? just being nitpickey... all looks great so far

I can has update?

Things have been slow. I started Necromunda so learning the rules and getting a gang together has taken up most of my time this week. I have the other medusa about 70% done. I also picked up some extra ideas for my manticore so hopefully an update in the next two days.

Cant wait to fight your xeno task force with da boyz!

Looking amazing man. Can't wait to see the boys.

I just got some bits in today for the guys so I think I have everything I need to start on them. On the downside, I broke the screen to my phone which I use to take the pictures. I should be able to replace it in the next few week hopefully.

But the lack of photos! How will I cope?
Gah!

Wow! That is one of the coolest ideas. Can't wait to see more pics.
Should should equip them all with frag (AKA flash-bang grenades).

Pretty wicked stuff so far. I really like what youve done with the tanks. Looking forward to more!

I demand pictures pretty please

subscribed!

Keep it coming

Excelent and original ideas, keep it coming.

The masses demand more photography!!

well Brian i have to say you can borrow my camera so the people that live on your work can have pictures. I don't need pictures as i get to salivate and hold them and try to run away to cuddle with the sweet conversions i seem to lack the skill of making... but hey i try. almost makes me wish i was a stay at home mom like you are. oops dad. my bad...HAHA

themrsleepy wrote:well Brian i have to say you can borrow my camera so the people that live on your work can have pictures. I don't need pictures as i get to salivate and hold them and try to run away to cuddle with the sweet conversions i seem to lack the skill of making... but hey i try. almost makes me wish i was a stay at home mom like you are. oops dad. my bad...HAHA

Please tell me you didn't get a new tatoo
.

I like the Barret idea. Seeing as the Barret M87(I think, that or M89) Snipe rifle is chambered in the .50BMG round. BMG stands for Browning machine gun, so the exact same round, not just caliber.

very nice!

yup its on my buttcheek brian isnt it awesome!

Well the Manticore is converted and ready for some paint and waterslides. I will steal Mr Sleep's camera soon and take some pictures. All in all, one chimera left to finish then its on to the valkyrie.

Sorry again for the lack of updates.

Lack of updates? Seems fine :}

Valk.. srsly?! Wow!! Is it going to be a chopper of regular valk. I thing a police chopper with snipers checking from the doors could be awesome!!

Huey it. You know you want to.

Zomg Needs more updates

Agreed... moar please

Pics should be coming soon. I found one of my old digital cameras when we did our spring cleaning last week. Now just have to find the docking station. I give it a few days.

Instantly subscribed!

Very cool looking project. Especially want to see how you do normal swat team members.

Beautiful work so far man, It's really impressive to see someone take on such a huge conversion task.

Can i suggest a Mil Hind and a base for a valk conversion, they look like a more rounded valk with chopper blades (it's what I am planning on using when I get the guts to try it)

Keep up the classy work!

I Just Lol'd at my posts 1st Lack of posts seems fine :} then i said needs more updates lol

This takes way too long to update :(

I really like the concept and the paintscheme, while basic, really seems to work. I really like the lights and the stark white decals.

Any more work going on here?

Alright, I took some pictures today and... the camera has no ability to focus at anything closer then 10 feet. Thats what you get with those old digitals. I did find some funny picutres of me and my wife from our dating days on it though. At least that was a plus. I should be able to order my new lcd screen to get my phone/camera back up and running on Monday. If all goes well that means I will have my phone fixed sometime next week and more pictures. Wish me luck!

Looking forward to seeing them

Me to, i like all your detailing work

I love this, subscribed!

Ok i am looking forward )

Generic concept but brilliant execution. particuraly like the sleek black and the lack of damage to the vehicles. And that rocket launcher is win!!!

so simple yet elegant

I want to have your babies

O.O awesome. i love them, its a great project here.
Especially the manticore missile thingy that pops up. very cool, very imaginative.
the only thing that i have to add is: Helicopters!
awesome stuff so far.

Hey all, I'm hyperviper's neighbor, so I ll offer a little bit of fun stuff here. He is planning on the Valkerie to helicopter conversion, I ve seen what he s pulling parts from and its gonna look awesome. Some of the pictures really dont do this justice. Each of the chimera's really scream swat team at you. If there was a 40k guardsmen swat team, I couldnt visualize this any better than he has modeled. As he's said, he's pulling heavily from modern swat style vehicles and modern military ideas. It really fits for being a swat style as one would figure some of these ideas would still be present in the 40k universe, a small tactical unit capable of a ton of firepower that primary assignment is defense of a settlement or outpost from xeno invaders. His plans may be grandiose, but with that comes the amazement of him actually doing it. I wish I was a stay at home dad. HAHA! anyway, just wanted to let you all know, since he's apparently too good to frequent with updates, just kidding by the way, he's dying to update, but no camera capable of showing what he's done recently, that he s also finished modeling and base coating a colossus(?) (calls down templates (airstrikes) via satellite dishes, and i get credit for the satellite dish! my idea for what he used anyway, it look hella cool and the dish even extends up and down. The manitcore s are my favorite with the pop up action! The valk conversion will be a bit due to financial constraints, but it will happen, soon as he gets bored with the less fun parts, individual guy modeling. I can't recall if he posted up what he's gonna do with the guys, but plans currently is cadian legs on an ig torso, all modified to fit together. Pretty much looks like a guy with a tac vest and mil style cargo pants with customized weapons. He s chopping each arm into like three pieces and repostioning everything to make it fit, looks awesome so far. Definately has his work cut out for him. Anyway, just wanted to let you all know the work is still in progress and when compared to a few other WIP (like mine) he's proceeding at an extroadinary rate. Anyway there s your update for now.

I am glad to hear all the news. And i was the first to suggest the helicopter i think xD ... and sniper AC teams. anyway looking forward.

This sounds pretty nice. I like the valk helicopter idea, and the satellite!

Quick update, phone screen came in today so I hope to get it installed tomorrow. After that pics should be easy to get up.

I should be picking up my valkyrie tonight so just in time for that converstion.


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Back in business. My camera is now restored so updates come Thursday if possible. Friday at the latest!!

these are great!
cant wait to seemore!

Wow it seems it is close!!! Updateeeez )

yessss i agree updates!

i like the missile launcher alot.

My internet is down so I will try to get some pics up when I get the chance. The valkyrie conversion is near complete. Just the crew, cockpit and some paint to go.

Ah it is so unlucky, once the camera, other time the internet... now what? I hope not models...

w0chtulka wrote:Ah it is so unlucky, once the camera, other time the internet... now what? I hope not models...

Models are doing good so far. I am sitting at Starbux. I really need to get my internet back.

I happened to have this one on my phone. Not the best picture but here is something else to drool over.

Haha, that's an awesome valk!

NICE WORK!

Awesome Valk my friend, jealous much. Looks very much like a Hind (of Russian origin), but still cool.

Can't wait to see infantry, if you decide to do some, generally cool models, keep up the good work!

Excellent work all round, that Valk is looking sweet, and really,really like the manticore

Nice Heli-Valk.

Gah hth do you subscribe to a thread as this is to awsome to not subscribe

skbak wrote:Haha, that's an awesome valk!

Valk? that's no Valk my boy, that an ornithopter Someone hasn't read storm of Iron.

Do you mind if I copy your idea for my eventual IG army? This is just such a good idea!

That is oozing Hindness. I like it

That Ornithopter is awesome man, I love your work.

Consider me subscribed.

S_P

LOVING the Ornithopter. What scale kit did the rotors come from?

Holy crap!! Thats... thats just too much. What about adding some guys taking ropes from the valk to the ground later? Like in Black hawk down )

Nice, I like. Surprising just how good a Valk looks minus the wings and with some rotors.

Also, a lot of people are going for Hind, but that chin mount for some reason reminds me of a Super Cobra.
Odd that

Great work on here my friend, keep it up.

The chin mount is from an apache I believe. The Hind has a totally different nose assembly, however the Apache doesn't have any troop transport capability, hence the model is more hind-like.

omg awesomesauce

More goodness coming from the hyperviper!

The valk was inspired by two different conversions that I found floating around online and an apache kit that I bought to steal the prop from. It was not modeled to be a copy of a real world helicopter, simply "inspired" as the rest of my work.

I am glad you enjoy it. I look forward to finishing it soon. The light effect makes it amazing on the table top. One day... I will get some video with the lights running so you can see the army in action.

The troops are taking a long time to finish so I picked up some swat minis from theassaultgroup.com to stand in until they are done. So I hope to have the vehicles table top ready soon.

Special Request

Can you paint a yellow smiley face on the valk? (Are you sure thats swat inspired?)

love the valk. cant wait tosee the troops.

have you thought of making riot squads with shields from the enforcer set?

Great job! I love SWAT team stuff.

Best valkrie ever.

This is me being all nerdy and stuff, but an ornithopter is a vehicle based on a winged creature, this Valk is a helichopper.

The Valk is a combo of (IMO)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_helicopter

An ornithopter is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithopter

Just clearing that up. Thanks Wikipedia!

I thought that this was an Ornithopter.....

Alright, some new pictures here. They are not the best quality but an update is better then nothing!

First up we have the Manticore. The idea behind this one is that since its D3 templates that it will call in for air support thus the dish on top. The limited ammo rule works well because air strikes would definitly be limited. I only have the primer coat on it so far so the dish will be changing colors once I get to painting.





Here are a few pictures of this army in action. (Lights are running)




You can thank Mr. Sleepy for the on the fly photography that got you an update.

I picked up some minis that I am going to use for the troops. At this time I just dont have the time or desire to complete them. You can check them out at theassualtgroup.com and go to the swat section. You will get a chance to see them once I put some paint on them. I hope to keep the updates comming. So enjoy!

The comm dish is pretty cool end around for the model. Did you articulate it so it would travel flat, like on a news truck?

JohnHwangDD wrote:The comm dish is pretty cool end around for the model. Did you articulate it so it would travel flat, like on a news truck?

This pole tount he dish is attached it is capable of moving up and down and spinning a 360 but the dish it self is is mounted so it is not able to lay flat.

Oh, OK. BTW, I think you ought to lengthen the spike in the dish - it looks a little too short for the dish itself.


Also, have you gotten a copy of the BoLS Arbites list? Seems like it'd be a natural for you.

Incredible!! those lights(LEDs?) really make the vehicles stand out!

Does anyone else think it's unfortunate that SWAT teams don't ordinarily have artillery support? Cool Manticore!

Nurglitch wrote:Does anyone else think it's unfortunate that SWAT teams don't ordinarily have artillery support? Cool Manticore!

Yea, it does. With normal swat though your looking to talk some hostage taker out of a building. With the Xeno Task Force they are trying to tell a lone hive tyrant he might have strayed off course.

hyperviper6 wrote:First up we have the Manticore. The idea behind this one is that since its D3 templates that it will call in for air support thus the dish on top. The limited ammo rule works well because air strikes would definitly be limited. I only have the primer coat on it so far so the dish will be changing colors once I get to painting.

I'm planning something similar for my army. I'll use the dozer blade to construct the dish to call in ordinance... Basilisk, Manticore, Deathstrike, etc. It never made any sense to me having a weapon that can shoot onto other tables...

That is utter awesome, I love the air support idea. any chance of seeing some infantry?

So a few quick updates for today. I painted in interior of the Valk and installed the crew and cockpit windows. I also covered the last of the light mounts with clear acrylic so at this point if I am not mistaken 100% of the assembly of the vehicles are complete. That means its time for paint and decals.

I am shocked at how long its been since I have painted something. The last time before today I picked up a paint brush to paint 40k it was when I painted the very first chimera. Its been a few months.

Updates hopefully will be a bit more regular as I managed to hook my phone up to my laptop for internet. So now I have internet anywhere. YAY!

Looking good, love the valk and the radar tank

I played a few games with my new IG. I got spanked by Tau and decimated Necrons. I think it was over at turn 3. For the first time I actually killed all of the monoliths!

For past history, a good friend an neighbor I play often has Necrons and for the last 2 years those monoliths have been my bane.

On the side note I spoke to a local painter with some great skills who said he could paint my infantry for 2.50 a model. So I think I am going to go that route as he can produce much faster than I can and he does a damn good job.

Look for updates next week as I try to finish up the tanks over the week. (No promises)

wordsup


cant wait to c more!

while you're bridging this whole SWAT military gap with your apache hind and stuff you should think about doing a stryker...or something to that effect...dunno if you can find something for it to count as...punisher maybe? but it'd be cool...

I really love this Army! Good job

dbsamurai wrote:while you're bridging this whole SWAT military gap with your apache hind and stuff you should think about doing a stryker...or something to that effect...dunno if you can find something for it to count as...punisher maybe? but it'd be cool...

I love the stryker but it looks like it would be a tough conversion. Not to say I couldn't do it but what ever I convert next I need multiples of and repeating the conversion could be a pain.

Here my next task guy but it will require some time to develop some extra cash flow. I need a good idea on what to use for hydra flak tanks. It needs to be on a track system. Please link me up with some ideas.

Agreed on both points. Stryker is ideal for Urban ops, but conversion would be a pain. Besides, to make it 40k, you'll want to section out two sets of wheels, so it's short enough.

On a side note, I love this conversion.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/292227.page

It almost makes me wish I was taking something it could "cout as" but it doesn't fit into my army at all.

Some very cool stuff here, please keep posting so I can continue to drool!

I took these guys out for a spin last night and we played a battle mission. It was probably one of the worst possilbe scenerios for these guys. I was playing against a mycetic spore tyranid army. The basic setup was this, no reserves for me, all my units had to be 12" or more from a table edge and more then 6" apart from eachother. The other player got to come in from any table edge and could drop all his deepstriking units on his first turn with no reserve roll. He also had automatic first turn.

By then end of the first turn I was so crippled that it was over. We played it out, I was tabled in 3 turns.

Without the ability to cover my weak armor and creating a mobile firewall everything was helpless to light arms fire.

The most painful game so far.

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Also, have you gotten a copy of the BoLS Arbites list? Seems like it'd be a natural for you.

Link please?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2008/11/play-aid-adeptus-arbites-mini-dex-from.html

I could totally do a better variant of the Black Maria that would look a bit more tough for my flak tanks.

@ hyperviper...I think its time to take a break from your fantasy playing and paint! just saying. I know your fiddling with your high elves right now... knock it off and paint! haha

I laughed when I read this, because I am suppose to be finishing my space wolves and have gotten distracted with my WOC army. Now I'll never finish either. I was suppose to be priming wolf guard, then started putting chaos warriors together, then I realized that chaos warrior hammers, maces, and axes made perfect power weapons and went back to converting the wolf guard I thought were ready for paint.

hyperviper6 wrote:I took these guys out for a spin last night and we played a battle mission. It was probably one of the worst possilbe scenerios for these guys. I was playing against a mycetic spore tyranid army. The basic setup was this, no reserves for me, all my units had to be 12" or more from a table edge and more then 6" apart from eachother. The other player got to come in from any table edge and could drop all his deepstriking units on his first turn with no reserve roll. He also had automatic first turn.

By then end of the first turn I was so crippled that it was over. We played it out, I was tabled in 3 turns.

Without the ability to cover my weak armor and creating a mobile firewall everything was helpless to light arms fire.

The most painful game so far.

Sorry about that but after the beatings I get from the cursed backyard we play in it was a nice change of pace.

Impressive, lights always add a lot of realism.

Haha my backyard is cursed! Thanks Gizmodious! Haha

Are more pics coming?

I need to but I have been lazy. I am looking at picking up some new models to get the hydra flak tanks rolling. I was either going to convert off more chimera chassies or thinking of picking up the Forgeworld tank that is modeled like a sand buggy. (Can't get the name as FW website is down. Still playing around with ideas.


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On the other hand, I have had a ton of fun playing this army. It hits nice and hard but has had its share of defeats. Very fun and balanced.

I should have the last of my tanks painted this week so possible new pictures at the send of the week before I start converting the last 4 tanks. (3 Hydras and possible one more chimera)

Great work so far! Really nice looking army.

Reecius wrote:Great work so far! Really nice looking army.

Thanks, is the comments that have kept me going. Thanks again dakka for the motivation.

MOAR!

Disjointed Entity wrote:MOAR!

Picking up 4 new chimeras on Wednesday. So I should have some more work to do there. My printer is down again, bought a new cartridge, printed one army list, told it to clean itself and it is now stuck trying to clean itself. I still need to print more transfers... if it isn't one thing its another with this project. I should have some good updates soon.

Shame about the printer, you tried re-setting it?
And good news about the chimeras

I keep checking back for more pictures. This army is looking great, and I'm looking forward to seeing your infantry too.

Nice work so far, really like the Valk

Nice work!
Though I was really hoping for a step-by-step on that sweet heli
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I'm really loving the swat stuyle IG! The use of lighting and magnets is supurb. But where is the IG guardsmen? The valk conversion is greate (I'm thinking of doing somthing like that myself for my orks)! Howabout you check out my blog too? (The link is in signuture).Can't wait tilll update,

HAZZER

This is honestly one of the coolest theads I have seen. Consider me subscribed. Keep up the great work!