I was just wondering - there are some seriously competetive people out there, and I've heard (and heard of) some fairly angry exchanges on here. It also seems that a fairly large portion of US wargamers in particular, are gun-owners. Does it ever get out of hand?
Has anyone been killed or seriously injured over a game of 40K?
Please note, this thread is NOT intended to be a commentary on gun-ownership, or US vs UK gun-control policy. Let's not.
I know two people who have been killed over a game called Advance wars, for the Gameboy and DS. They were people I actually used to speak to on a forum as well, much like yourself Albatross.
Or kids who play videogames kill themselves. About a year ago, some kid had his xbox confiscated by his parents. He ran away from home and was found dead a week later with a bullet in his head and a .357 with his finger prints on it nearby.
these kinds of killings/suicides can often be blamed erroneously on the game itself. You know the score: a kid with a troubled lifestyle gets pushed over the edge and suddenly it's "these monstrous games."
As far as I know, there has never been a death/killing/suicide linked to 40K yet. Doesn't mean it won't happen, though.
these kinds of killings/suicides can often be blamed erroneously on the game itself. You know the score: a kid with a troubled lifestyle gets pushed over the edge and suddenly it's "these monstrous games."
As far as I know, there has never been a death/killing/suicide linked to 40K yet. Doesn't mean it won't happen, though.
I think there may be a few suicides if the upcoming Dark Eldar update gets pushed back further or worse still, cancelled.
these kinds of killings/suicides can often be blamed erroneously on the game itself. You know the score: a kid with a troubled lifestyle gets pushed over the edge and suddenly it's "these monstrous games."
As far as I know, there has never been a death/killing/suicide linked to 40K yet. Doesn't mean it won't happen, though.
I think there may be a few suicides if the upcoming Dark Eldar update gets pushed back further or worse still, cancelled.
I was thinking more general uprisings myself. You get the pitchforks and I'll start handing out the flaming torches.
Yeah.. there are many deaths linked to WoW.. suicides, stabbings (including a fork stabbed into into another players head..over a piece of loot), road rages
as for tabletop deaths... ... none that i have heard of... but maybe GWS assassinated all that witnessed it so the info wouldnt be leaked to the public... .. .hmm.. theres some food for thought
these kinds of killings/suicides can often be blamed erroneously on the game itself. You know the score: a kid with a troubled lifestyle gets pushed over the edge and suddenly it's "these monstrous games."
As far as I know, there has never been a death/killing/suicide linked to 40K yet. Doesn't mean it won't happen, though.
I think there may be a few suicides if the upcoming Dark Eldar update gets pushed back further or worse still, cancelled.
I was thinking more general uprisings myself. You get the pitchforks and I'll start handing out the flaming torches.
I might begin riots in Nottingham. Totally justified.
Im not sure about warhammer. However one game i have played for 10 years (Everquest), there was a young adult who killed himself when his application for a guild was denied...
Not to sound insensitive (but damn if I could care anyway) anyone who kills themselves over a game, whether it be 40k, MtG, WoW, EQ, whatever game it was/is, should not have been alive in the first place.
I mean I can say I had an addiction to WoW for a while but now I can go without (and I have for 2 months now). I'll start playing again although when Diablo 3 gets released that'll be my new addiction.
I'm sure somewhere, someone has killed or been killed over a game of 40K or Fantasy. Not every murder gets news coverage so it wouldn't surprise me. The level of douchebaggery I've seen in YMDC sometimes makes me wonder how many of those people who get so heated over RAW would kill someone during an argument. I think more often than not the WoW forums are more civil than YMDC and the WoW forums can get pretty nasty at times.
Wow,people are really obsessive. I can't even imagine that happening..or can I?
"okay,well that's your trygon's sixth wound from my demolisher cannon,so I guess it dies..."
"what? How dare you kill my trygon??!! How would you like it if I killed YOU!!!???"
*stabs opponent in the eyes with Hive Tyrant's bonesword*
"AH!wtf man??"
One asshat I know wanted to fight my friend after a game of Blood Bowl, but that guy was a total douche who routinely went looking for trouble in all walks of life. He eventually became a school teacher and football coach so that he could ruin more lives, lol.
Ah Alpharius....
Still brings the classyness when anything gun related gets talked about Some of the others i've seen of your stash are better than this, or are you running out of chicks with guns?
A long time ago I heard a piece on the radio about how people get more upset when somebody cuts you off in traffic as opposed to bumping into somebody on the street (as a pedestrian). The idea was that because you can make eye contact when you're walking body language will keep the situation under control. On the other hand the the driver of the other car remains kind of anonymous and become the subject of your righteous wrath.
I wonder if there's something similar going on with MMOs. You never see the other person, so it's easier for emotions get out of control. Whereas in wargaming you're face to face, usually with other people around, so the social aspect may keep things from going over the top (not that they don't get heated sometimes).
Specs wrote:A long time ago I heard a piece on the radio about how people get more upset when somebody cuts you off in traffic as opposed to bumping into somebody on the street (as a pedestrian). The idea was that because you can make eye contact when you're walking body language will keep the situation under control. On the other hand the the driver of the other car remains kind of anonymous and become the subject of your righteous wrath.
I wonder if there's something similar going on with MMOs. You never see the other person, so it's easier for emotions get out of control. Whereas in wargaming you're face to face, usually with other people around, so the social aspect may keep things from going over the top (not that they don't get heated sometimes).
You're going to be someone important someday,trust me. Thinking like that will get you into the CIA without even batting an eyelash.
I was just wondering - there are some seriously competetive people out there, and I've heard (and heard of) some fairly angry exchanges on here. It also seems that a fairly large portion of US wargamers in particular, are gun-owners. Does it ever get out of hand?
Has anyone been killed or seriously injured over a game of 40K?
Please note, this thread is NOT intended to be a commentary on gun-ownership, or US vs UK gun-control policy. Let's not.
No.
And for the record, the ones I play with who own the guns are either cops or military, so they have to be some of the best run and safest games you've ever played.
To us, guns don't have anything to do with our arguments. They are tools like a hammer or a screwdriver. As for the large portion of gun owners being gamers? I don't know where you got your information, so I really can't comment on that.
We get heated every now and then, but other then that it goes to the extreme where someone has to take a butt kicking for thier TFG needs.
Worst I've heard from Warhammer is where some kid lost a game and flipped the table over destroying his and the opponent's miniatures.
For other things, well I recall reading a story from Japan (I I recall correctly) where some crazy shot a customer in the back of the head in an internet cafe after losing a game of Counterstrike to them earlier in the day.
I was just wondering - there are some seriously competetive people out there, and I've heard (and heard of) some fairly angry exchanges on here. It also seems that a fairly large portion of US wargamers in particular, are gun-owners. Does it ever get out of hand?
Has anyone been killed or seriously injured over a game of 40K?
Please note, this thread is NOT intended to be a commentary on gun-ownership, or US vs UK gun-control policy. Let's not.
No.
And for the record, the ones I play with who own the guns are either cops or military, so they have to be some of the best run and safest games you've ever played.
To us, guns don't have anything to do with our arguments. They are tools like a hammer or a screwdriver. As for the large portion of gun owners being gamers? I don't know where you got your information, so I really can't comment on that.
We get heated every now and then, but other then that it goes to the extreme where someone has to take a butt kicking for thier TFG needs.
What I said was that it SEEMS that a large portion of US gamers own guns. I have no information regarding percentages, I've just spoke to a lot of gun-owning American wargamers on here.
It's also interesting that you quoted this:
Please note, this thread is NOT intended to be a commentary on gun-ownership, or US vs UK gun-control policy. Let's not.
...and then blatantly ignored it by posting this:
And for the record, the ones I play with who own the guns are either cops or military, so they have to be some of the best run and safest games you've ever played.
To us, guns don't have anything to do with our arguments. They are tools like a hammer or a screwdriver.
I heard about an old guy expiring during his opponents turn during a Napoleonics game. Wonder how that affected his soft scoring on his tourney card...
What I said was that it SEEMS that a large portion of US gamers own guns. I have no information regarding percentages, I've just spoke to a lot of gun-owning American wargamers on here.
It's also interesting that you quoted this:
Please note, this thread is NOT intended to be a commentary on gun-ownership, or US vs UK gun-control policy. Let's not.
...and then blatantly ignored it by posting this:
And for the record, the ones I play with who own the guns are either cops or military, so they have to be some of the best run and safest games you've ever played.
To us, guns don't have anything to do with our arguments. They are tools like a hammer or a screwdriver.
Again, let's not.
Thank you sir.
And yes, I realize you were making an observation based on people you've spoken to who live here, which is inherently anectodal, which I know you're aware of.
I did hear of a tourney at my old store where they ejected a guy, and even though there was no physical ejection, there was strong language. He got angry because my friend did *indeed* get a save against the special DE needle pistol and proceeded to throw his tape measure with great zeal and said tape measure caromed off two walls, thus endangering the hobbyists.
There are alot of unbalanced people, and if you follow crime reporting or just read "Homicide, A Year on the Killing Streets" it's clear that that murder is often touched off by the most seemingly insignificant events. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that someone had been killed at, or following, a wargame.
Fateweaver wrote:Not to sound insensitive (but damn if I could care anyway) anyone who kills themselves over a game, whether it be 40k, MtG, WoW, EQ, whatever game it was/is, should not have been alive in the first place.
Not insensitive, just ignorant. People who are mentally disturbed enough to consider suicide over a game need professional help, not a revocation of their right to live.
A few people I know have almost come to fists over a game (after some cheesy rules exploiting) but it never got further than a few nasty words. I'm sure someone out there has - it's a big world after all, but it's obviously not too commonplace. Just compare it to Counter-Strike, where after a LAN game one player grabbed a screwdriver and killed his biggest rival. Pretty effed up stuff there.
Eilif wrote:There are alot of unbalanced people, and if you follow crime reporting or just read "Homicide, A Year on the Killing Streets" it's clear that that murder is often touched off by the most seemingly insignificant events. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that someone had been killed at, or following, a wargame.
Fateweaver wrote:Not to sound insensitive (but damn if I could care anyway) anyone who kills themselves over a game, whether it be 40k, MtG, WoW, EQ, whatever game it was/is, should not have been alive in the first place.
Not insensitive, just ignorant. People who are mentally disturbed enough to consider suicide over a game need professional help, not a revocation of their right to live.
You say po-tay-toh, i say po-taw-toh. If that person is known to be mentally disturbed they shouldn't play in the first place. As well, if you want to kill yourself over a game of toy soldiers I'll give you the gun to do it. I'll be your Kavorkian.
Ah Alpharius....
Still brings the classyness when anything gun related gets talked about Some of the others i've seen of your stash are better than this, or are you running out of chicks with guns?
Alpharius running out of chicks with guns? That's crazy talk! It'll never happen!
Some people overeact, way too much, In my GW its just fun and games, even if you lose for some wierd reason you always end up laughing so I don't really know what the fuss is about
Eilif wrote:There are alot of unbalanced people, and if you follow crime reporting or just read "Homicide, A Year on the Killing Streets" it's clear that that murder is often touched off by the most seemingly insignificant events. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that someone had been killed at, or following, a wargame.
Fateweaver wrote:Not to sound insensitive (but damn if I could care anyway) anyone who kills themselves over a game, whether it be 40k, MtG, WoW, EQ, whatever game it was/is, should not have been alive in the first place.
Not insensitive, just ignorant. People who are mentally disturbed enough to consider suicide over a game need professional help, not a revocation of their right to live.
You say po-tay-toh, i say po-taw-toh. If that person is known to be mentally disturbed they shouldn't play in the first place. As well, if you want to kill yourself over a game of toy soldiers I'll give you the gun to do it. I'll be your Kavorkian.
It's going to be a singularly amazing day when you finally get your head out of your ass and get to see sunshine for the first time in your life. The expression on your face will live on through pithy motivational posters until the end of the internet itself
Fateweaver wrote:My head is up my ass because I don't pity people who hate life so much they off themselves over a game of 40K or WoW or EQ?
I'm an insensitive prick, so sue me.
No, you've shown not only is your head crammed so far up your ass you're tasting the back of your neck, even worse, you're doing it deliberatly. You should be ashamed of yourself. You're looking at someone with a readily treatable illness and saying, 'instead of getting help, you should die, kill yourself.' I really hope no one in your family ever gets appendicitis, but at least we know how you're going to keep the costs down if your mum gets cancer.
I have seen a game where there was some heated arguing over a ruling in 40K 2E and fisticuffs ensued. We'll really the one guy cold cocked the other sucker right over the table and that was pretty much it - knocked him out. But as far as I know, no one has been killed over a war game.
However plenty of people have been killed after being possessed by demons/devils after reading the various editions of the Monster Manual and Manual of the Planes
I saw a game of WHFB end with a trip to the hospital. Apparently a rules arguement went south VERY quickly and disgruntled man 1 tackled disgruntled man 2 and proceded fist rape his face. Had it not been for some kid slamming a rulebook (belonged to some RPG, and it was HUGE) onto the first guys head, it very easily could have resulted in someone dying. Kudos to the kid with an oversized rulebook...
I guess I find it asinine people behave that way. GTA making you go out and carjack and shoot people? You need to be locked up for life or die. 40k or Fantasy making you want to kill yourself or others? Locked up for life or die.
I mean, I've spent weeks trying to get into 25 man raids in WoW (lots of competetion for slots for some classes), only to lose a roll for an epic loot piece I've waited months to get. I've never once thought of leaving my house armed with my shotgun and killing some random people or repainting the wall of my room with blood and brain matter.
Seriously, people that get that heated have problems mentally and should not be allowed to co-exist with others in society.
Fateweaver~ Your opinion's seem extreme, but I don't necessarily disagree with all of them honestly. One thing I think gets missed, unlevel people are common in gaming, comic book, and science fiction community. We have all seen those "odd" people, and probably at one time of another theorized on them going postal.
Some people do have mental problems, a matter of not co-existing in society is a little extreme. That being said, some people are not cut out of wargaming, period. They do not have the temperment, they are quick to argue and fight, and duh it makes sense put 2 of them on a table and off they go.
I agree with you that the "idea" of fighting over a game is ridiculous. Blaming GTA for violence to me is stupid, but people are impressionable, and likely need little influence to be drawn to violence. While you and I may share the "that's idiotic to do that" opinion, it does not mean that a person half cocked is not pre-disposed to violence. I have to admit, when I read the "Avatar makes people depressed" article, my first thought was: "those people are a waste, its a movie, get over it."
In this society we have to coddle the mentally disturbed. 30 years ago if you beat somebody up for beating you at a video game you got locked up in a nuthouse. Now that same person is put on meds (that don't usually work as intended) and let back into society.
It's people like that who give wargaming and video gaming a bad light. It's bad enough most of society looks down on gamers as being socially inept geeks, then displays like that happen in public places and it's like, to an outsider, "OMG what a bunch of losers to get heated up over little plastic men. It's a good thing I don't allow my family/children/friends to associate with them".
Rather then ask IF anyone has ever been killed over a game of warhammer, we should ask HOW MANY people have accidently killed themselves trying to assemble some of the old model kits.
I have personally bled over several Dark Eldar models and I put myself into shock while putting together a old chimera (exacto blade in the finger and deep into the bone). Made me feel REAL smart....
gardeth wrote:Rather then ask IF anyone has ever been killed over a game of warhammer, we should ask HOW MANY people have accidently killed themselves trying to assemble some of the old model kits.
I have personally bled over several Dark Eldar models and I put myself into shock while putting together a old chimera (exacto blade in the finger and deep into the bone). Made me feel REAL smart....
I cannot say the number for times I've accidentally cut myself with an exacto knife. I can recall though on 2 occassions I fumbled an exacto and watch it imbed itself in my thigh. I'll just add 3 events that come to mind..
1. GW Voorhees. On a sunday (only reason I know that it was football season, and I popped into the shop early prior to heading the pub close by) I decided to stop in to assemble a new battle wagon for my 40k orks, in the days before the kit. I was working on cutting on a orky symbol when a buddy bumps into me, i drop my exact straight into my thigh which precedes to immediately bleed all over my nice white jersey. I laughed, plucked it out, and put superglue on the cut. Always handy in a pinch.
2. At home, fiancee and I are watching a NFL game 2 weeks later. She jump up at a touchdown, knocking the exacto out of my want, straight in the opposite thigh, when I was working on the same battle wagon. Rinse, repeat, super glue. She asks me if I need to goto the hospital. My response: they will probably just clean it and superglue it anyway, i've got a matching wound.
3. Watching a buddy and his girlfriend flirt in the GW shop. First, can't say how much I've made fun of him in the past for doing this, but she likes the little plastic men game, so who can blame him. She sneaks up on her, he twists awkwardly while assembling a rhino, and slashes her in the face opening a 4 inch long cut. Wow. That was awkward to watch. Needless to say, she was not up for the super glue it approach...
Kirasu wrote:Killing yourself over 40k is tough to do. You spent so much money on the game already.. you might as well keep on living to get your moneys worth
You ddn't actually HEAR me say it. You see it typed. Big difference.
If you are that super mentally disturbed you probably can't separate fantasy from reality. If a person can't do that they shouldn't be playing wargames and videogames.
40K isn't aimed at 13 plus for small chocking hazards. It's aimed at 13 plus due to material and the inability, generally, for youngsters to define real from make believe.
SG makes a good instant bandaid. Stings like a mother but it is a lot less painful than doing your own stitches (which I've actually seen a guy do),
gardeth wrote:Rather then ask IF anyone has ever been killed over a game of warhammer, we should ask HOW MANY people have accidently killed themselves trying to assemble some of the old model kits.
I have personally bled over several Dark Eldar models and I put myself into shock while putting together a old chimera (exacto blade in the finger and deep into the bone). Made me feel REAL smart....
Have to agree with this. It's probably way more likely someone has died from hobby-ing than wargaming. All those sharp plastic ends and exacto knives,the stripping chemicals, the sharp corners on boxes and the outrageous prices of the models has probably brought a handful of people to their graves. No doubt.
I know a guy who only has 3 fingers on his left hand,and it was because he was trying to use a dremel on pewter models. He was using some sort of homemade "auto-saw" to make a small saw move back and forth really REALLY fast.
Needless to say,he lost his pinkey,ring finger and middle finger all in one fell swoop. He was trying to convert some sort of something from the old Hive Tyrant model. I have no idea what he was going to use it for...
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Grignard wrote:My understanding is that cyanoacrylate ( superglue ) was used by combat medics in Vietnam on wounds.
Yes,it was. I had no idea! My grandfather had to tell me this.
They use it in hospitals now. My dad went for bypass surgery and the 7 inch incisioin in his chest was held with superglue. Not a single stitch involved.
Kirasu wrote:Killing yourself over 40k is tough to do. You spent so much money on the game already.. you might as well keep on living to get your moneys worth
Mistress of minis wrote:I heard about an old guy expiring during his opponents turn during a Napoleonics game. Wonder how that affected his soft scoring on his tourney card...
A joke that would be funnier if they actually had historical wargames tournaments.
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Fateweaver wrote: If that person is known to be mentally disturbed they shouldn't play in the first place.
I am so sick of hearing this.
It's very common, this idea that people with mental health problems should be denied as much human rights as required in order to make the speaker, usually a white middle-class male, feel "safe" and not inconvenienced. It's the same mindset that supports the building of new prisons, "but not in my county".
Fateweaver wrote:SG makes a good instant bandaid. Stings like a mother but it is a lot less painful than doing your own stitches (which I've actually seen a guy do),
Doctors advise against people using regular superglue to treat their own wounds, though, presumably because it's not intended nor certified for such a use, so there might be components that cause issues.
Ketara wrote:I know two people who have been killed over a game called Advance wars, for the Gameboy and DS. They were people I actually used to speak to on a forum as well, much like yourself Albatross.
Remember, the internet is serious business.
You were on Advance Wars Net? Used to post by "Lightspeed" when I was a kid, I messaged Shade a lot back in the day, he helped me out quite a bit.
I punched a hole in my wall the other day over a video game. Mainly because some weird bug caused me to die, stacked ontop of a bad day at work.
I never look at people or could even imagine hitting a person when I punch things, but I like hitting inanimate objects. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
Lol,I used to have a big problem with this kind of thing....I've broken 3 gameboys by throwing them at the wall. I was playing the same game every time...POKEMON! Damn those gym leaders!
If I may weigh in on the superglue (CA, or Cyanoacrylate) as band-aid issue. Super glue is best used to hold the skin together on the outside, and allow the inner skin and tissue to bond together itself.
Dumping SG into a cut and holding it shut is not recommended due to toxicity, but holding the cut shut and applying a bit on the outside can be an effective way of holding a small cut closed. I've done this myself many times to heal minor splits in finger skin resulting from rock climbing.
Also, the glue used in surgery is not the same as model-quality CA. Surgical glues usually have much more pliable properties, (model CA is quite stiff and brittle) and are also less toxic.
Bah. I've used superglue to hold cuts together. Other than a little sting I've had no problems.
I cut myself deep enough to need stitches once. I squirted some superglue in the cut, cursed like a mofo cuz it stung like a mofo and held it together for 30 seconds. 3 minutes later I was back to painting. No scar, no infection.
Tzeentchling9 wrote:You should be careful about beating an Eldar play who is fielding a Night Spinner. It means he has one of those new Prism Cannons on his person.
Indeed, because you deserve to beat him if he fields the Joke Spinner. Then he can pull out the Prism Cannon next game so you can ignore it's laughable damage potential.
Tzeentchling9 wrote:You should be careful about beating an Eldar play who is fielding a Night Spinner. It means he has one of those new Prism Cannons on his person.
Indeed, because you deserve to beat him if he fields the Joke Spinner. Then he can pull out the Prism Cannon next game so you can ignore it's laughable damage potential.
They're 115 point fast skimmers, what do you expect for that price?
I have never heard of anyone being killed by any form of violance but I was almost killed when this trully fat game let out the greasest, super moist fart right next to me as he was rolling his scatter dice. That was about as close to manslaughter in a 40K game as I have seen.
However, I did see a gamer murder a plastic Wal-Mart deck chair by crushing with his butt. Now those shards could have killed someone. They left red marks and scratchs on the legs of the people near by.
Lol I could see a wargamer getting mad at a kid and doing a Homer Simpson thing. "THAT WAS MOST FAVORITE CHARACTER DAMMIT!" But no joke My sis is a Crime Scene person and I asked here this question. Apparently It could happen. I just happen to live outside of the worst parts of Chicago O.o. Scary Place. Anyway it's probably going to happen Hopeful not anytime soon. Probability is against it ever since most of the psychos just buy a few models and leave. Worshiping Khorne or Slannesh.
But still Most people that play the game are Well Thought out people. Like they know what is bad and right. Worst thing I've ever seen was when this guy was bragging about is 1,000 marines. (There goes his college Career -.-.) And a kid came by and flipped the table. To this day that kid is a Hero! The Guy was so pissed but hey it's his fault for putting it on a broken table. Bragging, and being a complete fool! Like Mr. T always said
I would say that more people have died from assembling models than each other. Because I have almost killed myself accidently when a knife accidently slipped and almost cut a major vain in my wrist. Damn that would be bad. Hell If i die from hobby at least my Parents can say "Well We always told him that one day he was going to get murdered by his hobby."
Madman49 wrote:Some people overeact, way too much, In my GW its just fun and games, even if you lose for some wierd reason you always end up laughing so I don't really know what the fuss is about
same with my GW in parramatta/sydney ... disagreements are always dealt with by the store managers before they escalate.. . ..in this store.. the customer isnt always right.. the managers are , its good though.
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njpc wrote:I have to admit, when I read the "Avatar makes people depressed" article, my first thought was: "those people are a waste, its a movie, get over it."
LOL.. did you ever realise that Avatar is smothered with beastiality aspects? ... The use that hair thing to "mate".... the same ahir thing to "ride horses"....... they even rape dragons!.. i mean.. wtf!?
So.. that whole planet is just one great big orgy.
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Lol,I used to have a big problem with this kind of thing....I've broken 3 gameboys by throwing them at the wall. I was playing the same game every time...POKEMON! Damn those gym leaders!
haha.. i follow you.. and once you do it once ... it becomes habit.. an impulse.. *defeat* "DESTROY THE GAMEBOY!" *smash* "not again" -.-
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Hoodwink wrote:I punched a hole in my wall the other day over a video game. Mainly because some weird bug caused me to die, stacked ontop of a bad day at work.
I never look at people or could even imagine hitting a person when I punch things, but I like hitting inanimate objects. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
Yeah... my wardrobe has many a dent (wardrobe is next to my xbox and pc) ... i stopped hitting things when my mate greg hit a large metal box after being dumped and dislocated pretty much all his right hand's fingers goood times xD
I have seen lots of fistfights over minis games (And card games, and rpgs. Calling someone a cheater around here tends to end with violence.) but never heard of a murder. BUT, I asked a relative in the Chicago police force if SHE had ever heard of anything. She got back to me last night and said that the closest she had found was a guy who killed his buddy who owed him money. However, the debt had been accrued due from losing games for money, including poker, video games, sports gambling, and a miniatures game that (from her description) was, in fact, Blood Bowl. So, killed over a minis game? No. Killed for money lost over years of bad gambling (including minis games)? Yes! (Or so I hear, in any event.)
Hoodwink wrote:I punched a hole in my wall the other day over a video game. Mainly because some weird bug caused me to die, stacked ontop of a bad day at work.
I never look at people or could even imagine hitting a person when I punch things, but I like hitting inanimate objects. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
Someone from the below thread mentions playing a guy that would yell and scream, break their mini's etc when they lost against them. He was also a bit of a cheater. After this guy played his mate the guy really lost it and attacked him and his friend with a hobbie knife. They both got a number of cuts on their arms that needed stitching but this guy came out 2nd best in the end. Best story I have heard. Its a good thread.
As with mental illness, there is a surpriseing number of people with some sort of mental illness and its increasing every year. Its been ages since I looked into this stuff so no figures to give you. You can tell with some people as their emotions can be extreme for a particular situation. One of the most common is anger although some people IMO are just immature and spoiled too much at home.
My ex girlfriend is a school teacher for the little kids and came across students who may have had some form of illness but the parents refused to believe anything was wrong with them or look into it. Its no wonder so many kids grow up with issues and attack or kill themselves.
Games dont kill people, its just one of many situations that can trigger someone to do bad things. Whatever the trigger, its a negative one. Loosing a game, getting yelled at, someone taking your car spot etc.
Note: Mental illness can be something so small you wouldnt realize it. Yet, yes, some can be very extreme and stand out very well. Saying "all mental people shouldnt play games" is not a nice thing to say.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Lol,I used to have a big problem with this kind of thing....I've broken 3 gameboys by throwing them at the wall. I was playing the same game every time...POKEMON! Damn those gym leaders!
Screw the gym leaders, they're easy. Try getting to fight number 90-something in battle tower only to have your 100 Accuracy attacks miss three times in a row, costing you your golden trophy! It so cheats in the higher floors.
i accidently punched someone over a video game the other day. Because the person was playing as a halo rocket noob. The worst kind and I knew who he was. I knocked on his door he opened it and I punched him in the face.
But i have heard of people flipping over tables because someone was cheating in a 40k
Asherian Command wrote:i accidently punched someone over a video game the other day. Because the person was playing as a halo rocket noob. The worst kind and I knew who he was. I knocked on his door he opened it and I punched him in the face.
But i have heard of people flipping over tables because someone was cheating in a 40k
Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:
micahaphone wrote:Wasn't Little Lord Fauntleroy nearly killed by a crazy gamer?
Hmm... I remember one a few years back that the man murdered his ex over her hacking his account and deleting his mmo characters.
That said: I can say I've seen real violence at the gaming table. You may all recall the 100% rukh egg decks that existed before the 4 card rule in MtG. I saw a player throw another player out the window of our FNGS when he realized what his opponent was playing. Beyond that I've only ever seen someone stabbed with an empire lancer, but it was not 'pure' GW, having a wire lance pole, and therefor does not count.
Samus_aran115 wrote:Lol,I used to have a big problem with this kind of thing....I've broken 3 gameboys by throwing them at the wall. I was playing the same game every time...POKEMON! Damn those gym leaders!
Screw the gym leaders, they're easy. Try getting to fight number 90-something in battle tower only to have your 100 Accuracy attacks miss three times in a row, costing you your golden trophy! It so cheats in the higher floors.
This was a couple (like 7) years ago. I was one of those kids who had his starter pokemon 50+ levels above everything else. No wonder I failed....Sigh. And Yes, pokemon does cheat. I've used protect, and been hit by earthquake. Cheating piece of crap *throws Gameboy at wall* !!!
BaronIveagh wrote:You may all recall the 100% rukh egg decks that existed before the 4 card rule in MtG. I saw a player throw another player out the window of our FNGS when he realized what his opponent was playing.
mega troll, lol. I never knew there was a time where the 4 card rule didnt exist.
There was also the deck made of nothing but lightening bolt and mountains. These were the early degenerate decks.
Then came Channel/Fireball. Ball lightening/bloodlust/berzerk. And so on and so forth.
Originally, Garfield had this idea that players would have thier own house rules. From what I'm told, no one at WotC ever imagined Magic would take off like it did.
"not again" -.- 
