hahah bet they'd love that

Really Awesome Army Lem. Been following those pics over 2 forums and CMON trully inspiring. I have 2 quick questions for ya. been scouring the web for a rhino pattern like you suggested, but I've only been able to find an older model. Even in BWC. Any change you could post or PM a link?
Also, What Piece did you use for extending the shoulder area and the butt of your defilers? Looked like a black plastic cap on the pictures.

Must says your defilers really made the new Soul Grinder defiler seem quite bland to me

purpleorc wrote:
Must says your defilers really made the new Soul Grinder defiler seem quite bland to me

Lol don't say that. I LOVE the new soulgrinder sculpt, I wouldn't alter it very much at all!!

The pieces I use to extend the shoulders and such are bits off crushgear models, I don't know which one, but I do know its the wheels.

Goddamn it, it appears GW got em. I feel a little responsible, I was going to keep it on the quiet but got a bit blabby with where they came from...

Hey Thanks for the Reply. I'm happy to say that doing some more digging around they are still there. Just didn't look hard enough. Just make your yahoo search, and pay attention. Not like me
There are several variants for the sheets, so if you don't find the one you are looking for just keep browsing through the stuff.
Thanks again.

those rhinos look just as the real deal,
may i ask you where you got those templates from?

-Develain

Well they came from BWC archives but they don't have them anymore. And I don't know where else to get them and I no longer have mine.

Lost templates makes me a sad panda...

It might have been housekeeping on BWC, but I did find some really awesome templates there yesteday. There are at least 3 different models for rhinos. Just navigate the files directory manually since the search feautre doesn't return any matches, but yeah They are in BWC

Does GW really have the legal right to go after templates?

Great work, Lem. What events will these beauties be showing up at?

Maybe CowCon in Rockhampton. Maybe if they can get me some dates, but it's looking badly for them turning up to them now since I'm planned well into April and CowCon was supposed to be march sometime....

Yup, I went to BWC to check on the Rhino templates (was looking for some Chimera templates myself) and though it took some searching, they're still there.

Could you possibly provide us with some links to those templates?

Hey Master. Go to yahoo groups an do a search for bwc group. Then you can send them a request to join etc.

Well, I've found a pic that should work well for my baneblade. I'll have a play around with it and see if I might be able to work it.

If... if you actually build something that looks like that I will construct an altar in your name upon which I will sacrifice all manner of poultry to appease your converting appetite.

Where did you find that beauty?

This will make one hell of a stand in for a baneblade. Are you thinking a turret where the dome with the 4 on it is? I can see a demolisher cannon coming out of either the very front or one compartment up between the 'lascannons'.

Just ridiculous. And awesome. And I can't wait.

Lemmingspawn wrote:Well, I've found a pic that should work well for my baneblade.

Stormtrooper X wrote:If... if you actually build something that looks like that I will construct an altar in your name upon which I will sacrifice all manner of poultry to appease your converting appetite.

Better get busy X, I think I already hear Lemm's extra spidery, extra stompy baneblade on its way!

- Salvage

when are words like spidery and stompy going to get into the dictionary? they should be.

Lem, you should do a possessed squad done up like spiders. It would keep with your many-legged vehicular scheme.

O_o

Sweet jumping Jesus on a pogo stick...

Hey there Lem. Thats a great idea I think it'll look awesome as a more demonic construct. I think that you could balance a bit more how its heaviness (form wise) relates to weaponry. I just think the image is a little flimsy on the attack power look. I think if you could do something like your big cannon arms on your defilers it would look more balanced. Looking forward to it.

PS.
I actually started A defiler based on your designs. Hope you don't mind I was thinking of posting the process pics to get some feedback.

i love this thread, i hope you are gonna post some more of your amazing stuff.

-Develain

Where in the name of the Emperor's left nut did you get that pic from?

I'd say that building that monster wouldn't be realistic, but I doubt you'll listen... plus, having seen the other pieces of art you've created in this thread, I'm guessing this would be a walk in the park for you!

I think the modding and custom work you do is amazing! I would like to start doing some basic modding and custom stuff myself,but I have a few questions about the materials you use.

1) what size plasti-card do you use?
2) what size guitar string do you find works the best?
3) where did you get you amazing skillz at?

Keep up the great work!

I'm guessing this would be a walk in the park for you!

Not really. This one will take some work.

1) what size plasti-card do you use?
2) what size guitar string do you find works the best?
3) where did you get you amazing skillz at?

Well...

1) Hardly any at all - actually I don't have any proper sheet styrene, I have polycarbonate, which is roughly 3/4 of a mm, cardboard which is only slightly thinner, ice cream container plastic and balsa wood...
2) Guitar string of all sizes is useful, depending on what you are doing. I am using anything from 009 to 072 bass strings, just depends on what looks best - I play guitar and bass so I have plenty around
3) It all started with a twinkle in my daddys eye many many many years ago...

So all of you know though, I haven't done anything further on this army, but will be soon. I have a tourney to go to end of june and as it turns out I need to tweak my list - which will involve painting up some more models. They are only troops and termies but it'll be some progress all the same...and perhaps a display board if I get crazy enough...

As for where the pic came from - I found the pic over on CGNetworks, there's a lot of cool stuff over there.

Warning: Thread Necromancy
This wasnt too long ago, and We never heard any more about it. Did you ever finish your Baneblade? Any more army pics?

Still more to come later guys I'm working on orks for the moment, coz I got sidetracked by bills to pay - so I'm making stuff to pay for stuff

I painted up a few more models in preparation for a tournament that these guys will be debuting at, I'll post some new pics one day

Once I've got my debts covered (by building and selling) I'll be back on the wagon!

Could you print a list of the building materials you are using for your walking vindicator? I would be very interested in knowing. It looks like thick card...

The walking vindi is mainly thick card, balsa and superglue to strengthen the stuff. Other materials are plastic bits and bobs, toothpicks, greenstuff and a couple of pens.

Not much to it materials wise!

Talent. You has it.

Woah O.o

Very cool! I would say for the legs, maybe use a Vulture's from Battletech, or Big Daddy from Bioshock.

-Wook

Wow, I've just spent some time going through this while thread start to present...

Wow. Amazing work as always.

Are you still working on this army Lemming? Or have you moved on to bigger, better things? Oh, and I tried the painting method you suggested and it works perfectly.

This one is still in progress - but it's on hiatus for the moment. I have my orks to finish for the moment.

Man, your stuff is amazing.

Two quick questions (hopefully neither of them dumb):

1. Where did that tube you used for the chickendicator come from?

2. I've seen a lot of these lava bases recently - is there some kind of tutorial available?

Once again, amazing work.

OOhh i love it when all the 'spidery' elements are incorporated into warhammer! makes it creepier and cooler : ) remember! - added legs means added potential for an uber-ep!c win. but i think with the quality of your work that's already been established

love the work man, very creative and skillful - big fan here

i have a question though: what is the volume/dimensions of your defiler? curious on its size for when i continue making my biped walker a "counts as" mini

cheers!

ps. how tall is the real GW mini supposed to be?

really good modellingand painting lemmingspawn is A GOD

roughly how long have you been working on this and how much money didnt you ut out on this!!!!?????? either way, your really creative man!!!!

My army Salutes You O Grand Iron Master

TheThing wrote:roughly how long have you been working on this and how much money didnt you ut out on this!!!!?????? either way, your really creative man!!!!

No idea on how much. It involved a fair few models and packs - but I can't recollect how much. Time? Somewhere int he vicinity of 3-6 months? Can't remember that either - but if you check the earliest thread to the last thread with pics that should give you an idea.

ok but im guessing that you have alot of free time sinceyou managed to do much either that or your amazingly fast at painting Good job though, really cool

Lemmingspawn you are amazing dude! Youre fantastic

OMG! I want to have your children! Wait, was that out loud? hmm ..

Seriously, I love the scratch-builds and well everything. I was a little wary of the silver and yellow paint scheme (having never seen Iron Warriors - I assume those are their colours?) but with all the accessories, weathering, lava and glow effects, they really look fabulous.

I am however having a hard time with the blue weapons .. they are growing on me though.

I'm sooo looking forward to seeing your Baneblade Walker. Keep up the amazing work!

Lemmingspawn wrote:So I've been playing around with brainmatter trying to get something working upstairs

What exactly is brainmatter?

The matter from which brains are made, obviously... you don't suspect he has fewer than 5-6 brains from various species floating in jars, do you?

I have said this ad nauseum no doubt, but it is really a lovely army, and exactly what great counts as modeling is all about. (Well, ok the infantry are not counts as, but vehicle wise)

What exactly is brainmatter?

lol wut

but seriously i hope to see some more pics soon! don't screw us lemming!

This is an incredibly inspirational chaos army, thanks for sharing. This is easily the best iron warriors army I've ever seen, and possibly the best chaos army I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing, it really motivates me.

congratulations i now collect iron wariors

Just a small update. I've uploaded an article onto Cool Mini or Not on the bases of the Iron Giants if you are interested in checking it out.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/750

This army is ssssssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo NICE!!!!!

any more stuff?

cooool.

This is so good I will use my connections at the inquisition to make sure you get to be cleansed by flame!

if it is a really dodgy army it does'nt matter because it is awesome!!!!

I just read through this from the start, and all I can say is Wow. Just... Wow. One of the best, if not THE best Iron Warriors army I've ever seen. Very nice painting, and the lava and the glow it seems to have on the rocks os amazing! I salute you sir

wow.... just.... wow. My first day on the forums & Ive spent about two hours perusing all these wonderful conversion threads, & I have to say... this one takes the cake...

I always fantasised about building wildly ambitious armies of this calibre... but I didnt think anyone had ever done such a thing. You sir, are a genius!

in regards to the baneblade concept i must spell out my thoughts
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somebody has taken lemmingspawns cake? Oh give it back right now, or ... um... well... preheat your ovens to DEATH!

oh dont worry me im just putting pressure on lemminspawn
PPPPPPRRRRRREEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUURRRRREEEEEEE
no pressure

nope






none at all

Thanks for the comments guys I'm still getting to this one, don't fret. I've got a couple of tanks to paint and a few termies and troops to finish off as well. But the creeping crabby baneblade of death will get the lovin' first - right after I finish with my triple stompa action

Epic thread... really.

Yays

dud this thing can only be awsome

this is a great army, i love da scratch built models

That bipedal defiler has got to be the most metal thing I've seen in my whole life!!!

How did you make your bases, I might use this for my table?

I adore the spikes.

I think there should like carcasses hangin' from them, wouldn't be just AWESOME!

Maybe a lascannon or some plasma cannon would be good for defense

Blimy!

What rules will you use for the big.. walking... half titan half defiler?

omg amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you planning to do any thing with the new stormlord? i certainly am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love your army so much cannot believe you did so much from scratch.how much did your project cost????

deadly chicken wrote:omg amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you planning to do any thing with the new stormlord? i certainly am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love your army so much cannot believe you did so much from scratch.how much did your project cost????

Exclamation mark overkill at it's finest, with a side order of question mark

aw no updates

There will be but not yet - a few more weeks on my stompas and then I'll get back to this one.

Can a mod lock it until you have an update? That's my third disappointment in a row, and it's getting annoying.

I'll add some pics of what I have ready to go - how about that Give you something to look at that I don't think I've posted yet...

And besides, it's gone so long and I'm not long off updating - I just have to get painting and finishing going on the stompas now.

Ok - to keep you guys from going crazy from quasi-pseudo-updates, here are some pics of stuff I have ready to go for this project.

I have two vindicators, one a tank one a walker type, 3 terminators and about 10 various equipped troops to swell the ranks a bit. And then there are the objective markers I haven't posted yet.

Do not fret peoples! More to come very soon! In the next 4 or so weeks!





The three objectives I call "Weapons of mass destruction", "I Robot" and "The Hatch". Why did I name them? Well - just because really...



Reinforcements:

great new conversions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice stuff. The markers look really cool. I especially like "the hatch" whatever it is

That's some seriously nice stuff. I like the objective markers a ton, and the other stuff also looks like it will be awesome.

so captain gordino, annoyed with people who post and no new updates huh?
hmmm I feel the same um
maybe you could, you know,
NOT BE SO HYPOCRYTICAL

I can do it too

And I agree the objective markers ARE awesome

Lookin Good! I love the new stuff. Can't wait to see more!

Lemmingspawn wrote:I love this one so much I want a whole swarm of them It even took out a landraider in the last game I played with it...and not with it's cannon either! It HUMPED it to death!!!

Next project- the twisted offspring, Go on you know you want to.

hi p4nc4k3
how about this:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lolz
any way amazing job. how did it take you to do this project?

waiting for the next ultra awessome update bye!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!
!

Looking awesome. I love your lava work. Well I love it all but thats pretty sweet. I also love your material weathering on metals and paints.

Really amazing work, Lemmingspawn!

Thanks for sharing.

Brilliant objective markers Lemming, very characterful. My favourite is the one with the servitor peering over the lava at the bomb!

You never seem to get bored with big robotic insect defiler creatures do you? I guess you can never have too many! This latest one is very nice.

Will you do your own take on the new Forgeworld Brass Scorpion?

Amazing work as always!

Gundam-Mecha wrote:Brilliant objective markers Lemming, very characterful. My favourite is the one with the servitor peering over the lava at the bomb!

You never seem to get bored with big robotic insect defiler creatures do you? I guess you can never have too many! This latest one is very nice.

Will you do your own take on the new Forgeworld Brass Scorpion?

Amazing work as always!

The new FW brass scorpion still makes me think dark eldar more than anything. I'd love to use it in a DE apocalypse force

I think - if I finally do get to building the stompy baneblade - that that will be enough for me...

I'm also thinking of selling ripley to fund building another one with some cool ideas I have. But the wife is a bit towy about that - she wants me to keep it...

<3 <3 <3 <3 The Hatch. You gonna paint the numbers on there?

These are, without a doubt, some of the best vehicle conversions I've ever seen... ever...

XD Those defilers are ungodly in their quality... just... wow

I agree.
Those are amazing, but, i was just wondering what possessed would look like in your colour scheme?
Oh, and what card are you making the tanks out of?

Anung Un Rama wrote:Nice stuff. The markers look really cool. I especially like "the hatch" whatever it is

It leads to a disappointing second season and a love triangle that dooms the show to mediocrity.

Valhallan42nd wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:Nice stuff. The markers look really cool. I especially like "the hatch" whatever it is

It leads to a disappointing second season and a love triangle that dooms the show to mediocrity.

lawlz.

Great job on this lemming, it's nice to see some new updates! imo you should definitely not sell Ripley, for any amount of money.

Unless it's a really good amount of money.

Lol - the plan is to remake and rebuild again. For the hell of it. With improvements. And laserbeams for eyes. Oh oh and a jet pack and nuclear fusion powered muffin toasters!

I'm getting carried away...I think I'll lie down for a bit...

ENGLISH MUFFINS? Damn you and your nook and cranny technology!*

*Note, bannana nut muffins would be still within Geneva Conventions. English Muffins are forbidden under the Bland/Crap Resolution of 1975.

Um..... Okay
*backs away slowly*

speechless, i just looked through the thread for my first time end every minature, or biggerature in some cases are epic,

keep going, these are the best ive ever seen painted and even more epcly converted.

thanks

oscar .

go iron warriors nice conversions
i like it when an army is fully converted

This really is great stuff! Think I'm gonna "borrow" some of your ideas...

Stunning conversion work! Just read the whole thread. Thumbs up all the way

Lemmingspawn wrote:
The new FW brass scorpion still makes me think dark eldar more than anything. I'd love to use it in a DE apocalypse force

I think - if I finally do get to building the stompy baneblade - that that will be enough for me...

I'm also thinking of selling ripley to fund building another one with some cool ideas I have. But the wife is a bit towy about that - she wants me to keep it...

Yeah I agree on the Forgeworld Brass Scorpion when i saw the sculpt it was a big suprise.

Sell the Ripley! Now that would be a travesty! Listen to your wife and keep it! I sold some krieg stuff a few years back and I really regretted it after.

Where do you live? I would love to come by and steal... I mean, battle... your army.

love all ur work!

whens the next update?

Im new to this custom jobbies!!!! Any tips on how you did that tank????

Oh and keep up the good work!!!! (jaw goes through the table)

lovin the mech(even if its chaos)

Just about read through this now, im a new user and spotted this first, JAW Dropping stuff.
I have tried to look through, but havnt seen anywhere but wanted to know what the stuff si you use for basing and where is it purchased from.?

Awesome, unique and creative...a deadly combination....

This is epic!
The most awesome conversions and creativity ive ever laid my eyes on!

Two thumbs up(three or more if i suddenly get some mutations).

Oh and btw, can you give me a little hint on how you get the depth of color on your powerweapons, tried various concoctions of Ice Blue but i never got it right

Again, awesome work!

Nice to see you return to this project!

Some fantastic work in here Lemming. Keep updating it for us all.

Takes my breath away and reminds me why I started CSM in the first place: mind-sickening conversions oozing creative juices.

2 months since lemming updated us. Hope all is ok.

same

daimn you, daimn you to hell.

What are the pictures.

Found them ... WOW

Wow I'm glad this army is so popular

I'll be getting back over the next few weeks to finish off the little bits and pieces that are left. I may have a commission to do so the walking baneblade may be on indefinite hold. In fact - it is for now unless I get some serious inspiration to start on that idea again...

Why don't you have a whole lot of chaos spawn carry the hull of the tank?

Really fantastic job sir,waiting for new images with trepidation

Your army is so friggin' cool! It is good to see an IW army not just simply drybrushed BG metal

I love it!

The Iron warriors are growing stonger all the time! With weapons like these, Chaos will do an EPIC WIN!

Well I've completed the last of the foot soldiers, but problem is my camera died last time I picked it up to take some pictures. Flicked the switch and *clunk chick dink vvvvvrt* no more camera. So now my update will have to wait until I have an operational camera that takes decent pictures.

Did you check the batteries?

Lol - yes that was the first thing. And I wont' tell you were the batteries I used to test the camera came from lol. It's definitely a dead camera.

amazing stuff

On the subject of updates - I've also finally thought of a way to do obliterators - Ogryn servitor style dudes with a stompa-esque mega energy cannon on one arm that incorporates a variable power mode weapon, and the other arm with some kind of CCW that would represent power fist, lightning claw or power weapon - can't remember the exact stats but you get what I mean.

Something for me to keep in mind as I progress through the rest of this army

sound so awesome it can only be LEMMINGSPAWN!!!!!!
nice to hear from you mate. ^0^

I've just been looking at the pictures of your unholy killing machines and OMFG your creations are some of the most brillant things i've seen! Never give it up!!

PS - Don't sell riply ;3

good idea with the oblits

and P.S please fix/buy a new camera soon

Don't worry - looking into new camera when I can... LOL

Finished another vehicle today - there's only one vehicle left in the army that has not been painted. Amazingly this army is almost completed finished! Nice!

hola Mr lemming
havent seen your work in ages, do you know how hard it is to find ideas without the master here?

Did you see my post Lemi, Have a load of spawn carry the baneplade

Hey Sugna - yeah saw that post - sorry I didn't reply I haven't been back on here all that often lately... Been trying to sort out stuff as it's been so busy in these parts.

Spawn idea is cool but out of character for my army. It needs to carry itself on mechanical legs But for now I'll settle for having finished painting everything unpainted in the Iron Giants army. It's all done, hopefully I'll get a camera (and some time) to rustle up some pics for y'all.

For anyone interested in a more detailed breakdown of the methods I used in painting these suckers - here's a few links to tutorials I did on CMoN.

The bases:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/750

And this is for my orks, but if you do similar but starting with a silver and yellow basecoat, then do the washing and stuff:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/725

Feel free to post these up somewhere else or to transfer the info onto this site if anyone wants to. I haven't done it myself because well...I'm too lazy at this juncture.

AWESOME ^0^

I've got to ask, what kind of silver / metalic spray have you been using to basecoat? I'm curious to try it to speed up some painting. I'm in NZ, hopefully I'll be able to find it at bunnings or what not.

Incredible! It's awesome that you're adding to this already insanely-cool army What will the point total be with these additions?

You should post a guide on how to do that lava, and how to make those rhinos from scratch, that would be very nice!

EzeKK wrote:You should post a guide on how to do that lava, and how to make those rhinos from scratch, that would be very nice!

I second that shout

Well use alot of defiler legs or dreadnought legs

scary

Disjointed Entity wrote:

EzeKK wrote:You should post a guide on how to do that lava, and how to make those rhinos from scratch, that would be very nice!

I second that shout

thirds on the lava

Lol at the lava shout... I'm pretty sure I covered that in the blog - you guys will have to go diggin

The metallic spray I used was Dulux Silver. Pretty standard, I'm not sure but you should have dulux in NZ.

Lemmingspawn wrote:Lol at the lava shout... I'm pretty sure I covered that in the blog - you guys will have to go diggin

The metallic spray I used was Dulux Silver. Pretty standard, I'm not sure but you should have dulux in NZ.

Blog digging?!

But that requires so much effort :(

I dug and must've missed it, I've seen it before where it's listed out... at the top of one of the pages.

I found the color wheel (page 7) I think the description came before that, but I'm not sure...



If we find it does it earn us some pics? Even just from a camera phone? Pretty please

Second that motion!

Amazing army. little bit of bad moon

What type of brown ink did you use?

Can you explain the scheme and paints used?

Thanks!

Can't give you pics - I hate posting blurry pics. And blurry is the best I can pull off with my camera phone. It doesn't focus on the macro at all which sucketh to the power of 10.

But I have done you guys a favour - I posted an article on the bases over on Cool Mini or Not a while ago so I went and found it - here is the link:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/750

Enjoy!

Hey lemmingspawn.. with planetstrike coming are you really going to enjoy attacking the imperial scum with your death machines? Being as iron warriors are masters of the seige.

Perhaps you could make some iron warriors terrain with the new peices coming out next month? ;p

This is old now
but i stil llove looking at it

this is truly brill


ABH

Fantastic army Where can I find your paint scheme?

This is the first time I have seen this army. It has got to be the best IW army I have ever seen. Truly inspiring work.

I give up.

Lemmingspawn wrote:Here's todays udpate.  Haven't been well and I haven't had much inspiration for the CCW's on the dread.  I want this to be a 2 ccw dread with a heavy flamer and a twinlinked bolter, but I have yet to develop the ccw's so that I like them...

Been stuffing around with ideas and they look stoopid.  Feel free to give me some ideas, I'm at a loss at the moment.

At least there are rivets in this update...lol

How about the twin bolter and the flamer being mounted on the dreads shoulder?


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Lemmingspawn wrote:Walmart would be an INCREDIBLY long trip for me...I'm in Australia and there ain't no such animal here!  Although I will keep in mind what kind of heads there are around that I might use for the defiler.  We'll see what turns up.

Here's what I've done today, just used the defiler leftovers and made a little Vindicator walker number 2.





It'll do the job and it's not too bad.  I almost converted it to another CC defiler, but I'll keep it as a possessed vindicator.  Roughly the same points cost anyways...

Its great but the cannon looks a bit bare/weedy to me
Maybe add an ammo feed (the shells have to get up there somehow!) or another weapon (twin linked bolter/ combi weapon?) or even just some glowing lights/targeters around the main gun


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Lemmingspawn wrote:Ok guys, to start with, here are the current full army shots (sans Unpainted models):





And a few games shots from the weekend and a time before that. I couldn't be bothered with a blow by blow coz ... well ... I can't remember. All I remember is the Black Widow blowing up first turn in 2 different games...

My 1750 force awaiting battle:



And some fight scenes:




STOP IT YOU ARE MAKING ME FEEL (EVEN MORE!) INFERIOR!!!!!
Seriously though great models




Trying to line up a landraider through the rocks:

wow that is a real nice army
good work!!!

Isn't it about time for the next update Lemming? Go go go!

Great gear btw

Lemming, I was never one for conversions, but after seeing this work I have to say I'm kinda dying to pick up some plasticard and more greenstuff so I can get to work!

Your army looks phenomenal... I hope you post again soon, it's been a month!!

Sweeeeeet im just wandering when the next update will happen?

Blood_pact - I appreciate the comments but hey - 12 months too late dude... sorry. They're already painted and done.

As to everyone else wanting updates? You'll have to sit tight because I haven't got a camera as the old one died. So unless someone would like to donate a decent one to me - I won't be able to provide you with any more photos till I get that sorted out. Sorry guys.

On the painting front I've been painting individual models because to be honest - I'm sick of painting stacks of models at a time. I'm been painting up the Phoenix lords at the moment, focussing on using the CMYK colour wheel and using some colour theory to play with the hues and such. It's working very nicely I might add - I'm quite happy with the results.

CMYK FTW!!!

I'd love to see those... maybe we can set up a paypal site for everyone to donate $1, and in the end you'll have enough for a camera

I would totally put a £1 in ( or $1, whatever)

I'll give a dollar to

Great army by the way

Whoa after seeing this amazing stuff I would love to see your Phoenix Lords. If you do a different thread for it please link it here.

Well I'm not too crazy about chaos but still I love your models!

Is the big guy a daemon prince?

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This army is so spectacularly awesome that its inspired me to start collecting warhammer again. Its been... around 7 years now since I stopped collecting (I just stumbled across this site and saw this thread in the top threads section, or whatever its called). I've just started dusting off my old WD mags, and after much rummaging in my attic I've found some of the models I didn't sell on ebay 7 years ago. Things have changed a bit (two new versions of 40k??!!), but my love of wargaming has been rekindled.

So thank you for making this incredible army.

wow get to the chopper your more into this than I O.o

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This army is so spectacularly awesome that its inspired me to start collecting warhammer again. Its been... around 7 years now since I stopped collecting (I just stumbled across this site and saw this thread in the top threads section, or whatever its called). I've just started dusting off my old WD mags, and after much rummaging in my attic I've found some of the models I didn't sell on ebay 7 years ago. Things have changed a bit (two new versions of 40k??!!), but my love of wargaming has been rekindled.

So thank you for making this incredible army.

Welcome!

Nice! And I haven't been slack - I've been playing around with a Daemon Prince today - playing around with the model. The one I have was given to me and it's missing one leg, one hand and one backpack skull vent thingy which for me is the mother of invention! I'm sculpting a new leg and looking at ways of making it techy sorta. Now that I think about it - making DP models into oblits is a TERRIFIC idea! Very expensive but cool.

And with me looking at buying a house I've been considering selling off the giants. But that's still an idea in my processes! I can always make more

Sadly still no camera though - maybe in the next 2 weeks we'll see :(

SAD:(

ALSO SAD :( :( :(

This is probably the most epic army I've ever seen. Don't sell your big models!!! They're too good!!!!! THE HOUSE CAN WAIT!!!! lol

Woahhhh! I'm in awe of your creative skill with daemons and iron. . . .

You could always buy them from me and give them a wonderful home!

Awesome work, but the first time i saw the walker i instantly thought of this lol Battlefield 2142

w00t!!! PAC ftw!!! gotta love those russians/asians/middle easterns/indians/not europeans! lol. The PAC always made me laugh.

What?

Just making fun of the PAC in battlefield 2142 and their ridiculous backstory. This is probably the wrong crowd for that, however.

In short: I just fulfilled my weekly need to do something stupid.


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Lemmingspawn wrote:You could always buy them from me and give them a wonderful home!

umm, how much are they being sold for?

If anyone is hugely interested my initial thoughts are $A5000... Over 3k point value - many many hours painting and conversion as you can all see. But at this stage nothing is set and I haven't made a decision. But if someone just swung me the cash and said "ME! I'LL TAKE IT!" I'd not say no....

Just read this thread from start to finish, what can i say...

Great bloody stuff!!

\What can i asy absolute geniuss, im working on a nurgle army and have got so many ideas from this thread, My friend you are a true god in the eyes of chaos. Great work

Thought I would tease everybody. I'm working on something new for this army. And it ain't a baneblade.

Let us call him Project X52.

And it's pretty cool - even if I do say so myself.

STAMPY!

I have returned from Paris.

I have returned form florida!

I have returned from the taqueria!

I have returned from the toilet.

goffnob deffsmakka wrote:I have returned from the toilet.

EEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

I feel as though I have accomplished something here.

I just hope you don't accomplish getting the thread locked for going majorly off topic - lol!

lol!

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Lemmingspawn wrote:I just hope you don't accomplish getting the thread locked for going majorly off topic - lol!

I can try!

Ok....um....project X52...I'll um...have a camera....sometimes soon...

Well here’s the update I promised. He’s not quite done – I’ve got a few little things to do like integrate the wings daemonically a little more and maybe trim the facemask back a bit and finish the base – but it’s getting pretty close. I also can’t decide whether to put the shoulder pads on or not – I kinda like it without the marine shoulders…

Let me know what you reckon, if I should or should not.

You don't want to use that send it to me.
Is that whole left leg gs?

Yeah = the deal was someone gave me most of a DP, no left leg, 1 shoulder pad, no right hand, 1 backpack vent - so I had to rebuild a huge chunk of the model. Perfect opportunity really

I dont think the head works, got any smaller masks?

The scratch-built arm looks a little bit, err, little.

Maybe It looks better in person, I dunno. It strikes me as atropied.

edit: corrected spelling on atrophy. Atrophy, not asthrophy. Hmm.

I like it. ALOT.
Who said that a DEMON PRINCE (!!!!!!) had to have the correct proportions?!?

I especially like those wings. Perfect blend between technology and biology. However, I think hes missing a gun. A big one. could be underslung on that scratch built arm.

The wings are the hawtness. I look forward to see how you cut the mask down, although I'm wondering if it's more than just a matter of trimming it down - thinking that the proportions of that mask may just be a little off compared to the rest of the model.

I have lost my lower jaw due to gapiness.

holy crap thats awesome im jealous

Make shoulder pads, but don't make marine pads. Make them twisted and daemonic looking. THAT would be awesome.

I agree with Crazypsyko666, custom-made shoulder pads would make it look even more cool. I like the head, but as you said maybe trim it back a little ?
Otherwise that's super awesome, can't wait to see it painted

I remember reading this thread a LOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNG time ago. Still awesome. I think custom shoulder pads would look the best.

Right arm does look underconned from the angle of those photos. Also with the shoulders perhaps, it's just a suggestion, but something like the iron man 2020 shoulders, the giant cog ones.

http://www.liquidcross.com/ironman2020/

All kinds of awesomeness - I say shoulderpads are necessary, if only for that 80's powersuit look.

I wonder the perspective photo angle you used makes the gs arm look undersized - on the normal DP the difference is made up by a big @55ed sword.

I love this stuff!

I like it... except for the head. I think it's way too big and doesn't suit the rest of the models awesomeness. Everything else on it is fantastic, though

Yes I agree, the head looks a bit out of place

Ok - had a fair bit of feedback on this and I think shoulderpads are the way to go. Maerlyn makes a good point that the shoulders sag a lot without them. And it's also been said about it looking like a heavily armoured dude without the heavily armoured part which makes sense too.

I've gotten the shoulderpads mostly done - I just need to tweak the spiky one because it's a bit weird at the moment. Without shoulder pads makes it look rabid like it's going to run in rashly and cut sick. I think with shoulder pads it makes it look brutal.

I like brutal more - fits the theme. Maybe one day I'll make a DP without the pads and do it up as Khorne. That suits...

Here's the pics:













I've been really enjoying the sculpting side of this model. I've tried using water, KY, not vaseline because I don't want to deal with the residue and the latest I've used is a clear Aloe Vera product. It's really really flipping good! Aloe makes it so easy to work with. I'd imagine vas would stay workable longer, but aloe is easy to wash off and easy to deal with. Vaseline gets on everything and is a pain to remove so I really really like the Aloe. Water doesn't work that well for me and KY is strange to work with in this situation.


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And I find that the head doesn't look so oversized now that I added the shoulderpads in. Double bonus coz I really like the head

Personally, I still think it looks out of place/large/etc BUT it's your model, not mine!

Shoulderpads increase it's awesomeness 19x. Excellent work!


I think it'd look brutal with a daemonic looking head/face, similar to the one that the actual DP model has, but with your touch to make it more awesome.

I personally like the less daemonic distorted face on this - how it gives it that deadpan menace. Like the dread you feel when you see Jason in halloween - emotionless cold calculating murderous psychopath.

I think if I left the pads off it needed more of a slavering manic face - without the pads made it look rabid and manic.

I will agree though - in some photos it looks kinda large. In others it doesn't. And strangely, in real life it doesn't look out of place to me at all. But in photos I will agree it does a bit. Me and the wife were talking about that last night - it's weird. I don't get how that works... Maybe its something to do with how my new camera focuses. Dunno.

Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

Shoulderpads bulk it out - good move including them. Head looks more in proportion as a result.

I'd almost say add some more GS to the shoulder pads, make them even bigger or something.

gameandwatch wrote:Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

that sounds AWESOME.

gameandwatch wrote:Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

To do that I would have to practically destroy the current head and start again. I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of commitment at this point in our relationship...lol

I suppose I might be able to cut the horns off the head in such a way as to allow me to re-affix them at a later stage without too much hassle if I don't like the effect. I'll have a think about it.

The helm is fine I think, like a gladiator or Masta-Blasta from MM3.

I feel the aesthetic is very in keeping with Iron Warriors.

I agree.
Thea head looks perfectly fine. I like the way that its kinda pushed forward. Just looks like hes about to explode due to rage lol

Please paint the fella He deserves it

Liking it! A lot.

To my eye, the large helmet is okay, since my eyes read it as "helmet," not "head." Almost like some war mask.

And I really like how the wings are shaping up.

Very cool.

Aaargh! Overdose of awesome. Nice work Lemmingspawn.

Shoulder pads are awesome, and i really like the head. IMHO, it's ready to be painted

Yeah, with the shoulder pads, I now retract my earlier comment of the head looking too large. Especially in the close-up photos it looks just right now.

Lemmingspawn wrote:

gameandwatch wrote:Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

To do that I would have to practically destroy the current head and start again. I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of commitment at this point in our relationship...lol

I suppose I might be able to cut the horns off the head in such a way as to allow me to re-affix them at a later stage without too much hassle if I don't like the effect. I'll have a think about it.

Hahaha, alright sweeties ;Y hehe, well, yes i know its more work, and Im not saying I would like it better, I simply feel that you need to somehow show it more of being a mask and not a helmet... Like to see some of that creepo demon poking through...

I LOVE THAT MODEL [/jawdrop]

I really wanna start a Khorne Berserker Planet Strike force now ...

Awsomeness ftw.

The model exudes torrents of gleaming awesome, but the one thing i dislike is the head...

I thought about it, and I think that trimming it down more like this might suit the model better(IMHO, at least).

awsome army here is the start of my nurgle army inspired by yours here is my defiler, what do you think

WOAH dude... Signature move is the Mecha Hump of DOOM!

I like where you are going with it - but I'm not a fan of the legs. How you've started the torso is great - the merging of machine and flesh - nice work. But I think the legs need - something - of which I don't know...

Back to my DP -

I've rebuilt the head - mostly - and here is a pic of what I have done. I couldn't see what it was that people didn't like about it until after I compared the new on with the old. I was even thinking - meh I liked the old one better - but now I see them side by side I realise the error of my ways!

That is truly incredible...I liked the old head but to be honest, both look amazing! It's definately got the look of an Iron Warrior whilst also looking distinctly daemonic...you have a great army!

Thanks, any thoughts on the legs then please let me know. unfortunately i am working with limeted parts but am more than willing to buy new parts to rip apart. anyone have anymore thoughts thenm much appreciated. cheers
shaun

Hey, GREAT WORK MAN! Your stuff is amazing, you can do ridiculously great modelling AND painting! I get neither traits - stupid god!

Loving the look of the army as well, best looking Chaos army ive ever seen! god I hope i play against you sometime, your IW's would hump me silly but it'd be worth it!

Have you considered something like a Tomb King Bone Giant skull for your DP? I think it would look really cool, especially with like a blue glow or watnot that you'd paint in the eyes... Sorry I'm just still not sold on the head, the rest of it looks amazing! but the head... My brother puts skull heads on his termies and they look great, I reckon, coupled with your painting ability a larger scale skull (from wherever! ) look great and give the daemon prince a really cool, impersonal and cold-hearted look... I think I'll love it either way though... keep it up!

x <--- Have a kiss, u've deserved it!

Yea that soulgrinder... Looks... A little 'excited'. Might want to move the cannon up... A lot

metallifan wrote:Yea that soulgrinder... Looks... A little 'excited'. Might want to move the cannon up... A lot

Slaneeshi!

WAIT!!!

Soul grinders dont even have battlecannons!


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Oh.. its a defiler...

its ment to be a defiller, thats what i thought was the point of conversions, the different

Don't derail the thread lads...

I like the new head but I liked the old one as well, it was kinda man in the iron mask.

I still can't get used to the speargun hand though, it just looks too weedy...

i agree there are never too many mechs
yours rock

O_O!!!!!!!!!!! GREATEST! ARMY! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A while ago i replied to this forum while it was quot unquote "dead", now its brought back to life, lemmingspawn im glad to see you posting your models again, because they are the main inspiration for my chaos army. After i say your upright defiler, i shall no longer have a defiler, or soulgrinder, on all 6 legs. Thank you.....your awesome.

how are you going to paint it

I *love* this army, I can remember seeing it on warseer a couple of years ago, but I haven't seen it since before you got to painting the two Lords.

The Daemon Prince is spectacular, absolutely freakin' awesome, looking forward to seeing it painted, and most of all I'm glad to see you're still working on this fantastic army

MOAAR!!!

I shall keep irritating you.

*Poke*

Lol - moar very soon

Excellent!
This is the first time poking has worked.
Apart from stopping people stealing my drumsticks...

*SNATCHED!*
MINE!

I've gotten through a good deal of the painting but I'm not entirely convinced of the colours. I can't work out how to improve the way that it looks - there's just something about the overall appearance of this colour scheme that I can't put my finger on...

Any suggestions or thoughts?

I dunno, looks great to me, maybe blue eyes?

I know what the problem is. Not enough Iron warriors colors. Maybe add some silvery grey to the armor and it'll be good.

I think maybe if you had all gold trim instead of gold and red? like on the ankles it's red fading to gold, if it was all gold it might look more "uniform". And maybe go for an iron look to the spokes in the wings?

Damn, excellent work! Maybe some more gold or brass to make him look more Chaos? Like he needs it, but...

Necros wrote:I think maybe if you had all gold trim instead of gold and red? like on the ankles it's red fading to gold, if it was all gold it might look more "uniform". And maybe go for an iron look to the spokes in the wings?

Yup, red and gold trim looks awkward. The overall thing is awesome though!!

I think the red is the glow from the lava.

typhus wrote:I think the red is the glow from the lava.

Now that makes sense.

I think there's a little too much black for a Iron Warriors Prince.
But It's up to you Lemming.

I lurvs it like a vampire from twilight.

Personally, I think the red and gold trim rocks.

I think you need more variance, to dissern more between the armor and the flesh, through occasional greens or blues in there, suddel hints of cool grey, just to really pop the red. A well, I agree there should be some silver in there somewhere, that or straight brass like a thirster...

I've played around with the colours but I'm going nuts. I'm much happier with the effect now. I'm not entirely happy with the wings but I suck at freehand and I suck at patterning flat surfaces. So I think I'll stay with this final colour scheme unless someone can give me a brilliant idea to finalise the overall effect...

Here's the pics:





My only problem with the colour scheme is it now looks like papa smurf gone bad...lol



edit: and ignore the way the head looks huge - my new camera has this weird fish eye effect when I get closer to the model, creating anything nearer to look slightly enlarged...

The smurfs are heratics.

I like that new color a lot better. The first was just a little too dark/warm red and yellow, which with the red and yellow base just seemed like too much to me. My eye didn't know where to focus.
Perhaps a little more pink on the mutated flesh would help that, but your color variances so far have really helped.
Love the wings too!

Yup, I agree, this second color scheme does work better. Better focus, which does draw attention into the Prince's face.
Very nice work.

Thirded. This looks much better! I like the blue for contrast. Works well!

Fourth'd. It looks much better.

I like what you did with the DP wings. Lovely work.

Awesome

My person opinion would be to darken the red further. ther's very little red in the rest of your army and suddenly having it all in one place will exclude this model. Prehapse more like the deadish flesh on the spikey walking thing earlyer

Also, the red/yellow combo makes it look a bit cheesy, like the original space-hulk... which doesnt do service to the brilliant model.

Fantastic.

Sorry to double post, but just note that red-blue-yellow are the three primary colours. Having them all on one model tends to ed up a bit messy/clashy. (They form brown together)

Project 52 laughs in the face of your colour theory! Hahahaha!



Lol - Yeah I understand what you are saying - that's why I think this one works because the colours are more separated. I am playing around with it again in the future but for now - I'm really over painting it so it gets painting rest for the moment

Bascilica wrote:Sorry to double post, but just note that red-blue-yellow are the three primary colours. Having them all on one model tends to ed up a bit messy/clashy. (They form brown together)

Actually, as they are spaced on the color wheel they make an excellent three-color complement. My Eldar are based on that, for example (though I use gold as my yellow).

To Scarab
Some of the best models i've seen use black, white, silver all mixed with one colour. Then they use a dark form of a colour that is on the opposite end of the spectrum.
ie: 80% icy blue 20% dark red, then the black/white/silver simple affects gradients.
Personally, i find most eldar colour themes garish anyway. Assuming the model in your Display Picture is from your army, there is alot of white there and the red is Muted/darkened, as i recomended to Lemmingspawn in my original post. Geddit?

Excellent, really vibrant colours, a worthy centrepiece.

Nice job. Daemon looks badass. Good job with army.

Can't wait for the next project

Hey good idea! I'm making an Iron Warriors army too.

Very nice model, though for fluff purpose its different to see demonic or warped IW. Normally(aside from primarch) they would remove the mutation and replace it with bionics.

Yeah that's what they did with this guy. But the daemonic infestation has spread infusing the bionics into the flesh - not unlike the Obliterator cult who the IW have a close affiliation with...

Which brings me to my next thought - I wouldn't mind making some Oblits using the Daemon prince as a base. I reckon that would work better...

Oblits are Cheeper than DP's arnt they?
Then again, for the sake of Aesthetics, Its a very good idea...

Lemmingspawn wrote:Yeah that's what they did with this guy. But the daemonic infestation has spread infusing the bionics into the flesh - not unlike the Obliterator cult who the IW have a close affiliation with...

Which brings me to my next thought - I wouldn't mind making some Oblits using the Daemon prince as a base. I reckon that would work better...

Yea I know bout the oblits.. IW are my main force though now they're just neat looking general space marines
Very interesting idea for the oblits. I've seen some cool oblits made with a wide variety of robot toys so it looked like the oblit took some battle damage.

GO IRON WARRIORS!

I am absolutely in awe of this. We don't see a lot of customization in local armies, so this is blowing my mind. I'll try to comment later, when I've calmed down enough to be more coherent.

Up the Irons!!!!

This simply looks bad-ass! I only flipped through the pictures and read a few post. I love the switch to the legs to the reverse knees(what is that even called?). It makes more sense for the centre of balance if this was a walker in real life. Aswell as controlling recoil as i picture the vindicator shooting like cannon from back in the day.

Hope to see more pics in the future cause this model is stunning!

I've been following this most amazing of post for years before i [we] joined dakka and never seized to be amazed at the work.
It has inspired us.

Syncronized laughing orks

Well, this army is pretty much finished. Unless I get inspired to build some more stuff. At this stage the army is going to a new home! If I do start any stuff again I'll start a new log.

Glad you have all enjoyed the journey to this stage!

Wait a minute... This is the end? Well, I suppose it had to come to it eventually. Twenty pages in all. Nicely done!

I think a full parade shot is in order.

Agreed

Congrats on completing the coolest army I've seen.

I second the Agreed. This is the coolest thing ever. You should take pics and put it up in the gallery.


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I think the only thing you're missing is a titan.

+1 to the titan.

Actually, those defiler walkers could basically be chaos knight titans.

Well - one apocalypse game I had with them they were counted as warhounds. They are only like a couple inches or so shorter than a titan.

Build an Imperator.

Yes. Iron Warriors Imperator.

haha!

I think I may have spelled Lemmings downfall here.

Lol, no. I'd be able to do it but I don't have any plans to do it at this stage.

WHY NOT!!!!!

BLAAAAARAAAAGH!!

DC

DAMMIT!

(yes 24 reference)

So is there gonna be any final parade shot? (Or super epic slide show?)

jsut read the entire of the blog.....wow :O

incidently your demon prince is so awsome! iw ould never of guessed one of his legs was GS after it was painted.

i would never of guessed your rhinos were made of card.

tbh i wold never of guessed a chaos army would look this good!

love the yellow btw, howd you make it so rich

You know, Lemming, I think the only army left that comes close to matching your creative abilities is the Tyranids.

So now that you've done chaos and orks, what's next?