Darth Bob wrote:In a melee fight, Chainsword vs. Chainspear, Skorge would figuratively (possibly literally) rape a Space Marine.

But that's hardly fair, Skorge is like ten feet tall.

Don't forget the leaping-around-like-a-genestealer-on-crack part... I'm pretty confident he could easily dodge the bullets.

@Cheese: It's not about being fair though... It's about who or what could rape a marine 1 on 1. In this case, Skorge is the 350 pound bodybuilder hardened criminal serial rapist, and the marine is a skinny 18 year old named Bubba, who has a 'reel purty mouf'.

you seem to be failing on the whole genetically enginered killing machine aspect of the marine im thinking your looking at rules as written not fluff for the marines

Tsar bomb

In response to the jedi argument:

I'm definitely not forgetting the 'genetically engineered killing machine' part, and I'm not going by rules at all. Skorge would rape a marine in a 1 on 1 fight. Maybe not a 'named' marine, like a chapter master, but a typical marine? >.<
RAAM could take a marine too. I imagine he's equivalent to a plague marine terminator. Big, bulky armor, wrist-mounted heavy machine gun (storm bolter), his fist probably qualifies as a power fist, and he's got that swarm of kryll (read: flies) protecting him from projectiles.
And no, none of that had anything to do with game rules. There are no plague terminators, for one thing...

MasterDRD wrote:There are no plague terminators, for one thing...

Sure there are.

Not rules-wise. There are Nurgle-marked ones though.
(I suppose you could count Typhus, but he's a special case.)

NO THE ONE PERSON WHO COULD KILL A SPACE MARINE IS AIZEN FROM BLEACH


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Its got to be a Jaffa from SG1, just zat the space marine then when he is down staff weapon till his armour gives!!!

Or a goa'uld controled space marine.

Failing all these a Irish Army Ranger (Irish special forces)

A mary sue.

Eva Unit 00, Eva Unit 01, Eva Unit 02.

All of the Angels.

To take down a Space Marine? Hmmm...
I don't think you could do it from the front, if he was watching his lines.

You'd have to outflank him. But, surely that would take some kind of tactical geniu-

CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!

MasterDRD wrote:I'm definitely not forgetting the 'genetically engineered killing machine' part, and I'm not going by rules at all. Skorge would rape a marine in a 1 on 1 fight. Maybe not a 'named' marine, like a chapter master, but a typical marine? >.<
RAAM could take a marine too. I imagine he's equivalent to a plague marine terminator. Big, bulky armor, wrist-mounted heavy machine gun (storm bolter), his fist probably qualifies as a power fist, and he's got that swarm of kryll (read: flies) protecting him from projectiles.
And no, none of that had anything to do with game rules. There are no plague terminators, for one thing...

RAAM could NOT take out a space marine compared to skorge RAAMs a pussycat and skorges' double-edged chainspear could cut through a leman russ.

and LEEEERRRROOOOOYYYYY JJJEEENNNNKKIIIINNSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vin Diesel could easily take down a space marine.

Point of reference: He defeated the EMPRAH! (of another alternate future) and killed a man with a tin cup.

Technically, it is the Lord Marshall, but damn if Riddick didn't look Warhammer inspired to begin with.

Oh yes, he was also a giant killer robot that withstood a nuklear explosion.

Anyway, let's see a space marine deal with that!

he'd be absolutley shattered afterwards but then again...

"it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning"

A lot of people are forgetting that in the lore, a space marine can take the pin out of a krak grenade, eat the gernade, throw the pin at somebody, and the pin will kill a grown man while the space marine won't get indigestion. They are Nerfed haevily for gameplay.

Nerfed in gameplay, but they suffer the Chuck Norris effect in the minds of many gamers, like you for example. Space marines are strong but they're not immortal. They are not gods. And I very much doubt that a marine could survive a krak grenade exploding inside of his body; that's just ridiculous. There are books out there, written by reputable authors (Dan Abnett, even!) that give us a pretty good idea what marines are capable of.
Also RAAM could most certainly take out a marine. Maybe not every single time, but certainly 9 out of 10 encounters would go in RAAM's favor. You seem to be forgetting that he has a giant living shield protecting him from any projectile attacks, and even without the kryll he can take multiple exploding arrows to the face without dying. (the torque bow's arrow, minus the delay from penetration to detonation, seems very close to a bolter shell in terms of effect. If anything, it seems more powerful when it explodes.)

MasterDRD wrote:Not rules-wise. There are Nurgle-marked ones though.
(I suppose you could count Typhus, but he's a special case.)

All chaos units are "special" in some way

Lorgar's Herald wrote:Its got to be a Jaffa from SG1, just zat the space marine then when he is down staff weapon till his armour gives!!!

Or a goa'uld controled space marine.

Failing all these a Irish Army Ranger (Irish special forces)

Sorry, but if I recall correctly a Zat doesnt even always take down a Jaffa, or atleast they sometimes get back up soon after.

But I'll go with Jack O'neill he could pwn a SM any day.


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Daniel Jackson, the SM will kill him and he'll ascend, then proceed to wipe out every SM chapter in EXISTENCE!

why has no one stated the obvious the only thing which can kill a Spacemarine is another Spacemarine of a different flavour lol

Delta from bioshock...plasmids don't count as psychic....

bees+lightning+drill

Winter Blast + Drill Rush would work better, I think. Bees would be ineffective against a space marine. However, I think if Delta started from far enough away the bolt shells would take him down before he was in range to Rush.

For a standard marine probably any drone from the Culture.

For a named Marine any combat orientated drone.

For a Chapter Master/Primarch, any drone from 'Special Circumstances'

Andrew

HoverBoy wrote:
All chaos units are "special" in some way

Some still have their bike helmets on.

hey if bees work on big daddies and big sisters they can work on space marines... homing bees of attack doom are awsome

Chuck Noris

SkeTcHy LaRRy wrote:Chuck Noris

'groan' don't start that again...

Jervis Johnson with the stroke of a pen

Or Mul. T. Lazer with a single novel...

Thunderfurry Blessed Blade of the Windseeker...

Zarynterk wrote:Thunderfurry Blessed Blade of the Windseeker...

WHAT?!



Ah, Spelling Nazis. The internet just wouldn't be the same without us...

Q from star trek, I'm not a trekkie but IIRC he either is, or basically is god.

loads of people-
the emperor
2 space marines
any number of tyranids
a primarch
a seductive sob
any special character
a waagh! of orks
armageddon
a renegade shadowsword
horus
a regiment of guardsmen
some old guy with a walking stick
a herd of chavs
doomsday
that guy from hot shots ( the funniest film ever)!
happy gilmore whacking him over the head with a hockey stick
the massive ugly guy from happy gilmore
listening to the queen's speech ( )

Several men and one of these big mother

http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/air-recent/b52-bombs.jpg

Look at it now!!!

An insane, screaming, naked guy armed with a toothpick.

CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Eh...quick someone think of a new more entertaining topic!

An IG battlecannon(str8,ap3). They eat space marines for dinner.

raptor jesus

Ghandi

Obi wan kenobi's ghost

I'm with Rico on this one . “When my Granny was 92 she did PT better than you!!”

hmmm wat can kill a SM?

AP 1 weapons (hur hur hur )

Ramirez! Take down that space marine.

Ahh mw2...

Deff Rider Warboss wrote:hmmm wat can kill a SM?

AP 1 weapons (hur hur hur )

Giggle all you want I still get an invulnerable save w00t for SC's

Exterminatus.
A pissed off Inquisitor.
the death star.(1&2)
an AT-AT.

I'm thinking either Chuck Norris or superman.

(Chuck Norris is probably superman at weekends so I guess its the same person)

Leeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!

Space marines are junk. I stomp them regularly with Nob bikers. A fictioal character? He's not fictional, but I say Jared the Subway sandwich guy could own those whiners.

Fenrisian Beer.

Windows Vista.

TheBlackVanguard wrote:

Deff Rider Warboss wrote:hmmm wat can kill a SM?

AP 1 weapons (hur hur hur )

Giggle all you want I still get an invulnerable save w00t for SC's

Oh, and did i mention a lone Ork Boy with a Slugga?

My mom with a power sandal

Deff Rider Warboss wrote:

TheBlackVanguard wrote:

Deff Rider Warboss wrote:hmmm wat can kill a SM?

AP 1 weapons (hur hur hur )

Giggle all you want I still get an invulnerable save w00t for SC's

Oh, and did i mention a lone Ork Boy with a Slugga?

One lucky time doesn't count.....besides the emperor had forsaken him for his insolence anyway so the Ork didn't really kill him the God Emperor did.

Then the emperor has forsaken a great many SMs lately.

true, the question is why?

Shrike78 wrote: Windows Vista.

It's a little known fact, but records deeply hidden within Imperial Vaults suggest that's exactly what happened to the 13th founding. Techpriests uploaded Vista as the OS for Power Armour, believing it to be superior. Tragicly many Marines suffered from a poorly understood, but widely feared, aberration known as the "Blue Eyes of Death." Woe to our fallen Brothers.

Tau in hand to hand combat. My tau have fought orks in HtH with them on the charge... and they have STILL won... what hope does a space marine got? ;p

Salami.

I can only imagine that they would have no hope against Jay and Silent Bob. I mean COME ON haha but really I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't stand much of a chance against Godzilla, the Incredible Hulk, Superman, stuff like that.

A bad burrito
An idiot with a tank of oil and a match.
Jesus Christ

A carnyfex

a squad of the S.A.S in the right conditions
my character from Oblivion
joining a MW2 game with only 5 seconds left and a nuke about to go off
a Challenge Mark 2 tank
and Thor

Whatever made this cat's face do this:



Could take down a Space Marine.

I know exactly what would do it... RAMIREZ!!! TAKE OUT THAT CHAPTER OF SPACE MARINES WITH YOUR TACTICAL AKIMBO THROWING KNIVES!! lol

How about finding out that the sequel to an RTS that you were really looking forward to requires STEAM, the night before you're about to go buy it? That's the whole reason I will never touch Dawn of War 2, and now I just found out I can never play Supreme Commander 2, either. All because those dipsh*ts at Gas Powered Games decided to make it require Steam. I f***ing HATE Steam!

Gets ya all steamed up huh?

lol why the hatred for Steam? Choose your words carefuly, I've been told I look like Gordon Freeman. *grabs a crow bar* lol

lukas-da-trickster wrote:I know exactly what would do it... RAMIREZ!!! TAKE OUT THAT CHAPTER OF SPACE MARINES WITH YOUR TACTICAL AKIMBO THROWING KNIVES!! lol

A tactical nuke!

lukas-da-trickster wrote:I know exactly what would do it... RAMIREZ!!! TAKE OUT THAT CHAPTER OF SPACE MARINES WITH YOUR TACTICAL AKIMBO THROWING KNIVES!! lol

RAMIREZ! LAND RAIDER, LEFT FLANK! KILL IT WITH THIS PISTOL!

RAMIREZ! DRAW THAT BOLTER FIRE!

RAMIREZ! MAKE ME A SANDWICH!

RAMIREZ! GIVE ME A B.J.!

Certainly few/no anti-personnel weapons we currently employ. They are too tough, don't really suffer system shock, are unlikely to merely bleed out, have multiple redundant organs, and than wrap all that up in stupid amounts of non-encumbering armour.

So, Anti-Tank, High Explosive etc.

Question is, what could take down a Space Marine before he knobbles it first?

A giant Spayse Laz0r. SHOOP-DA-WHOOP!

Nuruhuine wrote:lol why the hatred for Steam? Choose your words carefuly, I've been told I look like Gordon Freeman. *grabs a crow bar* lol

Hmm... How about buying a 50 dollar Half-Life 2 GOTY edition set, looking forward to playing it, and then finding out that to play it I have to download a spyware program called Steam that makes me log on to the internet to play it, makes me download a metric sh*t-ton of unrelated updates before I can play, and then because of Steam's sh*tty servers the game lags to the point of being unplayable? How about looking forward to DoW2 and then finding out it requires this sh*tpile of a program to play it? How about, the NIGHT BEFORE I'M GOING TO BUY IT, the sequel to my favorite RTS turns out to be *gasp* a Steam game? And how about all the other people out there who have their own horror stories to tell? That's why the hatred for Steam(ing pile of SH*T!).

RustyKnight wrote:

On Brotherhood of Steel: None of their weapons are any good (AFAIK the BoS doesn't deploy any of the Fat Boy type weapons in-game, so...). The armor doesn't really do that much for your strength, so the SM still has a vast advantage in CQC and is impervious to most of the BoS ranged weaponry.

On Spartans: The SM wins on strength, toughness, armor*, and basic weaponry. The spartan does have the advantage of speed (I'm fairly certain the Spartans are faster than SM) and some armor characteristics (AI capabilities and rechargable shield). The Spartan does have weaponry capable of damaging an SM. Plus, how many SM have ever pimp-slapped an anti-tank missle out of their way?

Yea.... Gauss Rifle from fallout 2, or vindicator gatling gun..... or plasma rifle..... or the fallout 1-2 power fist (wich works more like the w40k one) Pulse missile/grenade ( fries all circuits ) Gatling Laser might do the trick...

As for Spartans. I think they win on reflexes too, when carrying an AI the power armor gets additional boosts(novels), as for speed, book says they can run like 80-100 km/h. And strenght? They can flip a Scorpion Main Battle tank(game wise)! They survived an over 500 meter fall ( can't remember precise height) Standard Weaponry is indeed lacking... so give them one of those Energy Blades, Gravity hammer.. For ranged battle.. My bet is on Fuel Rod Gun or just break off a missile pod... But yea, with standard equipment their only chance is Sniping (wich they rock at btw, Upside down one handed, hanging from a rope Headshot anyone? (novel)) I think people are comparing the Game chief (legendary difficulty) to fluff marines. Where as in the novel Spartans are powerfull enough to compare to the games easy mode. Also.. Puny Spartans? The Master Chief stands about seven feet (2.13 m) tall and weighs 1,000 pounds (450 kg) in armor and trust me, he's not the biggest. I've read of similar sizes for Space Marines(though I never find the correct measurements). Spartans also have extremely enhanced bone structures (think wolverine strenght bones). Also, this is all about the Spartan-II project. There were also Spartan-III's (slightly weaker, crappier equipment but with stealth tech) wich were made as an expendable version of the Spartan-II's. Also, all spartans are the masters of sticking you with grenades.

Oh and hunters wouldn't stand a chance against a SM, They are to slow and cumbersome, easily outmaneuvered, and the armor has some very obvious weak spots. That said, if they land a shot or a hit with the shield its probably game over, just never gonna happen.

As for Elites... pretty much same as Spartans, but lacking certain weapons expertise, are to much stuck to their honour, and dont have AI's. The white preatorians in halo 2 would have a good shot at them tough.. those bastards were tough.

OH, warthog Gauss Cannon would decimate SM armor.

/halo nerdism over

Also, Earth worm jim.

neo, super jesus, satan, samus, madusa, the lady terminator from terminator 3, a titan

Eric Cartman.

A helicopter gunship?

Jack Sparrow
A Nuke
Gimli
A steamroller


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Acme Brand 16 Tonne weight.

More than 30 seconds of exposure to Celine Dion or Cher.

The intense fear all living creatures feel when Richard Simmons is near.

Ron Jeremy.

Any middle aged or older womans driving



P.S. Ladys im just kidding

Fabio. Fabio could take down a space marine....

prince Charles' ears

That's easy. Pheonix Lord Maugan-Ra. He could take down them all. According to Codex Tyranids, he fought against a Tyranid Invasion by himself... and Won!

Wait, wasn't that Sly Marbo?

Wolverine, practically unkillable and has claws that will ignore armor. And Deadpool, who is inferior in every way to a space marine but prolly crazy enough that it wouldn't matter.

Geemoney wrote:Wolverine, practically unkillable and has claws that will ignore armor. And Deadpool, who is inferior in every way to a space marine but prolly crazy enough that it wouldn't matter.

unless they bring flamers

Geemoney wrote:Wolverine, practically unkillable and has claws that will ignore armor. And Deadpool, who is inferior in every way to a space marine but prolly crazy enough that it wouldn't matter.

"Shh... my common sense is tingling!"

Yeah, I vote Deadpool too.

J.Black wrote:Chuck Norris?

Bruce Lee

Takedown a space marine? that would take a tactical geni-CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

Nuruhuine wrote:Ron Jeremy.

I'll buy that

Lupe wrote:

Nuruhuine wrote:Ron Jeremy.

I'll buy that

Mazel Tov!

Asurans, Pegasus Asgard Battlesuits

A piano falling out of the sky!

kravus master of Horus wrote:A piano falling out of the sky!

a veary viable opponent indeed

no the piano would not work. -.-
What would kill him is a meltabomb tied onto a falling piano.

Nah, that might not work either.

5 meltabombs tied onto a falling piano might just do it

Oh, and just to be sure, one of the Tokyo Hotel boys has to play it while falling

Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Maybe a Spartan out of Halo. One of the Immortals out of Highlander, perhaps. The Emperor out of Star Wars?

ultramarinelord wrote:Maybe a Spartan out of Halo.

Not a chance

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Stargate SG-1

aka_tizz wrote:Nah, that might not work either.

5 meltabombs tied onto a falling piano might just do it

Oh, and just to be sure, one of the Tokyo Hotel boys has to play it while falling

For safety's sake, it'd be best to use all of Tokyo Hotel.

That would probably do it, so we hope.

You should add a few nukes in there for good measure.

Mmmm.... Tasty.....

Orbital bonbaonbardlement?

Already taken I'm afraid, damn that was a good website.
(his Imperial guard phased out lol)

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Stargate SG-1

ohh, the ones that had the staff shooters on their arms GK style, and survived the assault from sg-1 unscathed?

Krellnus wrote:Already taken I'm afraid, damn that was a good website.
(his Imperial guard phased out lol)

And why should Necrons have all the fun, eh?

Phase-out for EVERYONE!!

In Soviet Russia necron make you phase out

ginger_nid_dude wrote:In Soviet Russia necron make you phase out

Wait, weren't that the NKVD and later the KGB?

Does anyone else find it funny how that new "text us a question and we'll answer it" service is called KGB?

Starcraft Universe:
-Jim Raynor
-(in game he is either a vulture(kinda crappy, not this), a BATTLECRUISER (Yamato Cannon), or a Marine (meh)

-SC2
-- THOR

Also, Seige Tanks with plenty or range (hur hur hur)

Protoss: Carrier, Tassadar, Dark Templar, Reaver (with range, maybe)

Zerg: Ultralisk, SC2 Queen, Hydralisk (they kill everything), SC2 Banelings, Guardians.

Also, Gen G.S. Patton (he is like the Creed of IRL)

USS Minnesota

USS Enterprise (the real one, also the Trek one too, why not)

A-10 Warthog (airplane, anti-tank, can fly home one 1 engine and parts of its wings missing)

Hey cool, there's a ship called the USS Minnesota?
I cast my vote for the Vessel of the Frozen Wastes! *salutes*

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Stargate SG-1

ohh, the ones that had the staff shooters on their arms GK style, and survived the assault from sg-1 unscathed?

Yes, those ones,
*HA take that SG-1 I stepped on C-4 and Claymores, I took it like a man!

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Stargate SG-1

ohh, the ones that had the staff shooters on their arms GK style, and survived the assault from sg-1 unscathed?

Yes, those ones,
*HA take that SG-1 I stepped on C-4 and Claymores, I took it like a man!

Sg-1 doesn't count, they took the Goa'Uld and the Ori all by themselves...multiple times.
So a SM is just a midnight snack to them. Not even close.
On second thought, they may even be able to kill Chuck Norris, so a marine? Not a chance

Eddie Izzard... unless he carries the banner...

An WFB chaos dwarf...
Chop em at da knees

aka_tizz wrote:

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Stargate SG-1

ohh, the ones that had the staff shooters on their arms GK style, and survived the assault from sg-1 unscathed?

Yes, those ones,
*HA take that SG-1 I stepped on C-4 and Claymores, I took it like a man!

Sg-1 doesn't count, they took the Goa'Uld and the Ori all by themselves...multiple times.
So a SM is just a midnight snack to them. Not even close.
On second thought, they may even be able to kill Chuck Norris, so a marine? Not a chance

HERESY!!!

aka_tizz wrote:

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:

Captain Shrike wrote:

Krellnus wrote:Kull warriors, better armour, better guns, better all the time.

Who and where from?

Stargate SG-1

ohh, the ones that had the staff shooters on their arms GK style, and survived the assault from sg-1 unscathed?

Yes, those ones,
*HA take that SG-1 I stepped on C-4 and Claymores, I took it like a man!

Sg-1 doesn't count, they took the Goa'Uld and the Ori all by themselves...multiple times.
So a SM is just a midnight snack to them. Not even close.
On second thought, they may even be able to kill Chuck Norris, so a marine? Not a chance

No, for one reason, they look awefull.

Awefull yes, awful no

A penny dropped from 225 miles up?

A penny shot from a rail gun?

Actually Frazzled, physics dictates that the terminal velocity of a penny will not be larger than aorund 70 kmph (even less if you take its air spin into account and rigorous air drag and calculations), so it will not kill even a normal person, let alone a marine.

However, a penny shot from a railgun, that's a whole different problem

who knew 1 cent could put a hole through 2 tanks an aircraft carrier, and cause over $200,000,000,000.99 in damages?

Yeah aka_tizz, but what CAN'T a railgun kill?

Krellnus wrote:Yeah aka_tizz, but what CAN'T a railgun kill?

t-1000. Or, if we're talking Tau style railguns, then a really lucky marine

Lol, true...

simple, fething army of fething two, Rios An Salem

Nice one,cute kitten...

MasterDRD wrote:Hey cool, there's a ship called the USS Minnesota?
I cast my vote for the Vessel of the Frozen Wastes! *salutes*

It was sunk @ Pearl Harbor, we fixed it, it killed lots and lots of squishy people.

IIRC it was the last Battlecruiser to be used in combat (Im not entirely sure though), and it makes an appearance in Metal Gear Solid 4.


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Also, how about we go for a real challange, what WON'T kill an Imperial Guardsman

A grot.

SPBWF7 wrote:
Also, how about we go for a real challange, what WON'T kill an Imperial Guardsman

the guardsman's "flashlight"

downing a SM or CSM is easier than it seems.


Headshot(s)

just shoot the head a few times and even Lasgun shots could kill them. sure if you blow up half his body the blood will clot and the dude will just be a very angry mister, but take out his brain and you have a sack of spuds just standing there

msita T

msita T? I know a "Mista T"...

And he can't take down much of anything these days. He -is- a WoW spokesperson after all

metallifan wrote:msita T? I know a "Mista T"...

And he can't take down much of anything these days. He -is- a WoW spokesperson after all

no metallifan, you are referring to Mister T, which means that "Mista T" is some sad excuse of an imposter!!

I propose the Saint of Killers.... he'd do it.... he's killed... everyone hasn't he?

Emperor save us... An imposter?

Well, we're all completely fethed.

Rep grinding for the Netherwing faction in WoW would take down a space marine... It's pretty brutal.

Kratos

Hercules?

Russell Crowe! 'E loves foigh'in!

In a fistfight?

With a big enough gun anybody could, but in a straight fight... I guess Rambo, he always finds a way. He'd cut out both hearts and eat them (a big meal). He would also respect his Astartes opponent, and be furious with Col. Troutman for what the United States military turned him into. He would go live in the jungle but chaos space marines would come and start slaughtering the villagers, and he would have to kill them too.


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metallifan wrote:msita T? I know a "Mista T"...

And he can't take down much of anything these days. He -is- a WoW spokesperson after all

I beg to differ; T beat cancer.

Dr. Ew wrote:In a fistfight?

Yes in a fistfight! It's Russell Crowe, an' foighin's his middle name!

Dr. Ew wrote:

metallifan wrote:msita T? I know a "Mista T"...

And he can't take down much of anything these days. He -is- a WoW spokesperson after all

I beg to differ; T beat cancer.

So did Russell Crowe. Well, to be more precise, he was informed you can't actually -fight- cancer, so he fought a cancer patient instead.

metallifan wrote:

Dr. Ew wrote:In a fistfight?

Yes in a fistfight! It's Russell Crowe, an' foighin's his middle name!

Dr. Ew wrote:

metallifan wrote:msita T? I know a "Mista T"...

And he can't take down much of anything these days. He -is- a WoW spokesperson after all

I beg to differ; T beat cancer.

So did Russell Crowe. Well, to be more precise, he was informed you can't actually -fight- cancer, so he fought a cancer patient instead.

That episode is #4 in my top 10 favorite south park episodes! And yes, Russell Crowe could kill a marine. All he would have to do is start singing. *Makin' movies, makin' songs, an' foighin' roun' the world!*

epic beard man could pwn a space marine!

This guy. He could kill a Space Marine

Although...

Spoons -CAN- be mighty deadly in the right hands

epic beard man would happily pick a fight with a chapter... as long as they were on a bus

There's this guy who made the ballsy claim that nobody in all of 40k could beat Alex Mercer (from Prototype) in hand to hand. Really? I don't know enough about him, except that he can shapeshift. Big deal, chainswords hurt know matter what you look like.

Snikkyd wrote:There's this guy who made the ballsy claim that nobody in all of 40k could beat Alex Mercer (from Prototype) in hand to hand. Really? I don't know enough about him, except that he can shapeshift. Big deal, chainswords hurt know matter what you look like.

He can Shapeshift, Lift anything from cars to busses and throw them a few hundred yards. He can grab a person, any person, and absorb them into his body taking over all their traits, memory and form. He can morph his body into a multitude of weapons. He's a the embodiment of a sentient virus. He Elbow drops tanks to death. So yea, anything other then a Great Daemon would probably be kind of.... .

Cylar from Hero's could kill a SM with easy...after all there is no limit to what he can do ever....

Soladrin wrote:

Snikkyd wrote:There's this guy who made the ballsy claim that nobody in all of 40k could beat Alex Mercer (from Prototype) in hand to hand. Really? I don't know enough about him, except that he can shapeshift. Big deal, chainswords hurt know matter what you look like.

He can Shapeshift, Lift anything from cars to busses and throw them a few hundred yards. He can grab a person, any person, and absorb them into his body taking over all their traits, memory and form. He can morph his body into a multitude of weapons. He's a the embodiment of a sentient virus. He Elbow drops tanks to death. So yea, anything other then a Great Daemon would probably be kind of.... .

Yea, but a bolter round to the skull solves every one of those problems.

No it doesnt, he even recovered from a nuclear blast at sea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ig4NR5Wm68

Shapeshifter ftw. He's a big pile of emo though.

Anyone can survive a Nuke blast though. That's nothing amazing. If you're really in doubt, there's always Exterminatus. That beats pretty much anything

And if that doesn't work, you can always eject him out of a battle barge into the sun.

Or just use a psyker to fry his brain

Or send Lucius to fight him, if Lucious kills him, 40k wins.

If that thing kill Lucious, it transforms into Lucious (for ever) how's that for shapeshifting huh buster!?

Dakkadood wrote:Or send Lucius to fight him, if Lucious kills him, 40k wins.

If that thing kill Lucious, it transforms into Lucious (for ever) how's that for shapeshifting huh buster!?

You mean you can't shapeshift back from Lucious?

Aaaaand if that doesn't work there is always...
bonbaonbardlements.
nuff said.

A guardsman with enough 6 rolls.

well if you have to call in an exterminatus, that's pretty much a hollow victory.

sure you killed him, but a SM didn't.

as for Lucius: what if he gets killed and the guy who killed him immediately commits suicide. Is that the end of our dear Lucius?

ExtremeMetalFTW wrote:well if you have to call in an exterminatus, that's pretty much a hollow victory.

sure you killed him, but a SM didn't.

True, but it was all in the name of THE EMPRAH


Therefore, everyone wins. Well, other than the Prototype guy.

You gusy are all WRONG!Its the mudkipz,they will kill us all.

Hulk smash man in can!!!

Lol

Yeah, the hulk could kill him too, after he all, he also survived a nuke, and when they tried to absorb something from him, the machine exploded.

metallifan wrote:

ExtremeMetalFTW wrote:well if you have to call in an exterminatus, that's pretty much a hollow victory.

sure you killed him, but a SM didn't.

True, but it was all in the name of THE EMPRAH


Therefore, everyone wins. Well, other than the Prototype guy.

Ah yes, this Emprah fellow, how those marines love this Emprah

The Games workshop Tank brush loaded with paint, nuff said

Superscope wrote:The Games workshop Tank brush loaded with paint, nuff said

Haha, that's a good one.

a lot of fire



All of the above.

House, he beat God, next a Space Marine!

magikarp


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wait a pokemon lineup of 5 magikarps, and a clefairy to cast sleep on the SM would ream him. They'd all be like, we need an escape rope blagh blah blargh and then you can mug him.


On a side note how heavy do you think their boots are? Heh how long could 3 space marines play hacky sack with a human head?

.......I need to sleep


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space heroin
the giant guinea pigs from south park
angry postal workers
sneaky bears with shark mouths
walmart customer service
Bruce Willis in Diehard
dethklok

The Space Marines Mother in Law.

My Ten:

Chuck Norris.
Rambo.
A CSM.
A FEAR rattata.
Superman.
The A-Team
James T. Kirk
A BaneLord Titan stepping on him.
A Daemon Prince.
Most species of Tyranid

Gandalf the gray, and Gandalf the white,
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight,
And Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie,
And Cowboy Curtis, and Jambie the genie,
Robocop, The Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader, Lo-pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger,
Bill S. Preston, and Theodore Logan,
Spock, The Rock, Doc Oct, and Hulk Hogan

that one rock up there, see it? the one right above the marine? yea that one.

You mean this rock?

yea that one! he could kill a space marine! he is so bad ass

His wife.

corpsesarefun wrote:Gandalf the gray, and Gandalf the white,
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight,
And Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie,
And Cowboy Curtis, and Jambie the genie,
Robocop, The Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader, Lo-pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger,
Bill S. Preston, and Theodore Logan,
Spock, The Rock, Doc Oct, and Hulk Hogan

And Mr. Rogers too. Don't forget him and his blood-stained sweater.

Darth Bob's avatar... O.o

Who?

A very angry chicken

Mr. T when he doesn't get his milk. He gets mad without his fresh, wholesome milk.

I reckon the knife missile out of a drone companion to a Special Circumstances agent of the Contact section of The Culture would be able to kill a Space Marine without anyone realising it had happened.

oggers wrote:Someone armed with the holy handgrenade of Antioch.

lol, was thinking the same thing.

op: Me.

J.Black wrote:Chuck Norris?

win

all other answers please refer to this

rule 1. chuck norris always wins
rule 2 if chuck looks like loosing refer to rule 1

simple

A Gelatinous Cube.
it goes OMN NOM NOM NOM.
In D&D anyways.


AND.... A SPACE MARINE *gasp* It's so obvious!

War Machine...not even a contest.


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Or me...

I have WS3 S3 lets say...

I have a 50% chance of hitting him. and the same chance of wounding him...

he has a 66.7 chance of surviving

Now let's say he attacked me while i am sitting at home...he charged through difficult terrain so I have higher initiative...

I have an 8.3% chance of killing him.

Booyah.

Kilkrazy wrote:I reckon the knife missile out of a drone companion to a Special Circumstances agent of the Contact section of The Culture would be able to kill a Space Marine without anyone realising it had happened.

What...?

ductvader wrote:War Machine...not even a contest.

What those lumbering slow piles of scrap? A cripple space marine could run circles around one.

ductvader wrote:War Machine...not even a contest.


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Or me...

I have WS3 S3 lets say...

I have a 50% chance of hitting him. and the same chance of wounding him...

he has a 66.7 chance of surviving

Now let's say he attacked me while i am sitting at home...he charged through difficult terrain so I have higher initiative...

I have an 8.3% chance of killing him.

Booyah.

you are aware s3 is around 3 times the strength of a normal human?

Soladrin wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I reckon the knife missile out of a drone companion to a Special Circumstances agent of the Contact section of The Culture would be able to kill a Space Marine without anyone realising it had happened.

What...?

ductvader wrote:War Machine...not even a contest.

What those lumbering slow piles of scrap? A cripple space marine could run circles around one.

I'm hoping he meant THIS warmachine

I remain by my point "throws nose up in the air"

Oh, and I'd say any one of us could fry their brains by telling them the truth of their existence

Soladrin wrote:I remain by my point "throws nose up in the air"

Oh, and I'd say any one of us could fry their brains by telling them the truth of their existence

Hey marneus! there is no spoon!

*marine head splosion*

a never ending swarm of Guardsmen or primitive warriors like in those Grey Knights books. the marine has every possible advantage out there but no one has unlimited ammo. Ok so say he gets drop pods full of ammo and he can almost never run out eventually the masses would close in. he would kill a gak load in cc but eventually the bayonets and knives, claymores and battle axes would break some seals at the joints. Armour is ripped off and the sofy fleashy parts are hacked to pieces. it doesnt matter if you can see in the dark and have thick bones if 30 something bayonetts smash your face in.

then of course GW and the rest of the marines start pouting that someone killed one of their poster boys and nuke the gak outtta the planet

The marines from starcraft

UppityGrot wrote:The marines from starcraft

Um, no. Zaelots however are another story they have shields and energy blades.

UppityGrot wrote:The marines from starcraft

A lot of things from Starcraft could kill your average 40k Space Marine.

Such as Hydralisks (they kill everything, and burrow, and, well, has 10-15 hundred zerglings around to use as meatshields (in an actual combat how the zerg are described to fight, i.e., give Tyranid swarms (again fluff-wise) a run for their money, body-count wise.)

Or Wraiths (clocking is fun) or ghosts (see earlier parentheses statement, also, nukes), siege tanks, Goliaths, science vessels (irradiate ability), Battlecruisers, packs of zerglings, zerg guardians, protoss zealots/dragoons/reavers/carriers/scouts/dark templars/archons so on and so forth

Not to mention all the killy new stuff in SC2


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also, RAYNOR.

Enough said.

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this before....but what about Dark Troopers from the Star Wars EU? They seem to be as heavily armored as a Marine, but also much slower. But that's countered by the fact that they are robots who can afford to lose an arm or so to a power/chain sword. plus, they have some models specialized for close combat!

additionally, what about Zone Troopers from Command and Conquer 3? Their jump packs give them similar mobility to an assault marine, and I have a feeling their rail guns would be able to pierce power armor.



Zone Trooper



Dark Troopers

@corpsesarefun

So Guard have 3 times the strength of a normal human? I thought they were normal humans?

YES...that War Machine...

my rabbit?

SMs don't have soft fleshy bits.

SM can afford to lose arms, and legs, and good portions of their entire lower body...and important organs like hearts and lungs...and swimming pools full of blood...

Lethal doses of radiation are just absorbed and neutralized...

Maybe if a nuke landed directly on top of an SM but...they could probably survive a close detonation

I don't think Star Wars or SC have the chops to deal with SM

steempunk wrote: Maybe if a nuke landed directly on top of an SM but...they could probably survive a close detonation

unless by 'close detonation' you mean at least a few hundred meters from the hypocenter of the blast. if they were standing close to a nuclear detonation, they would be completel vaporize, no matter how tough their armor was. sm could most likely survive the direct radiation as well as the fall out, and if they were far enough away could survive the heat and overpressure. but if they nuke were anywhere near them? they'd be toast (quite literally i might add)

ChrisWWII wrote:

steempunk wrote: Maybe if a nuke landed directly on top of an SM but...they could probably survive a close detonation

unless by 'close detonation' you mean at least a few hundred meters from the hypocenter of the blast. if they were standing close to a nuclear detonation, they would be completel vaporize, no matter how tough their armor was. sm could most likely survive the direct radiation as well as the fall out, and if they were far enough away could survive the heat and overpressure. but if they nuke were anywhere near them? they'd be toast (quite literally i might add)

I agree...being deatomized doesn't stop because you're hardcore

ductvader wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:

steempunk wrote: Maybe if a nuke landed directly on top of an SM but...they could probably survive a close detonation

unless by 'close detonation' you mean at least a few hundred meters from the hypocenter of the blast. if they were standing close to a nuclear detonation, they would be completel vaporize, no matter how tough their armor was. sm could most likely survive the direct radiation as well as the fall out, and if they were far enough away could survive the heat and overpressure. but if they nuke were anywhere near them? they'd be toast (quite literally i might add)

I agree...being deatomized doesn't stop because you're hardcore

I beg to differ. An Ultramarine would survive because "Ultramarines always win, all the time. Hurr-durrka-durr."

Kilkrazy wrote:A guy with an RPG.
A guy with a sniper rifle.
A guy with a roadside bomb.
A guy with a bag of bricks on top of a tall building.
A guy with a faulty water heater which produces carbon monoxide fumes that suffocate the SM in his sleep.

The logical flaw with SMs is that while they are awesome at straight 1-2-1 combat, they aren't invulnerable or immortal and can be killed in a variety of fairly ordinary means.

Because they are so expensive, and relatively easy to kill, they will usually lose by attrition to ordinary troops.

One flaw... as pointed in DOW II the book.... SM dont sleep but for a hour every 3-4 days

Candle Jack would make quick work of any space mareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

metallifan wrote:
I beg to differ. An Ultramarine would survive because "Ultramarines always win, all the time. Hurr-durrka-durr."

No, the Ultramarine would survive because he was conveniently located on the other side of the galaxy. Like they always are.

Who or What could take DOWN a Space Marine!?

If a Space Wolf: A Pan-Galactic Gargleblaster.
If a Boy Blue: Half a shandy.

another space marine... in terminator armor!

guardsmen 8 billion of them

Papaskittels wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:A guy with an RPG.
A guy with a sniper rifle.
A guy with a roadside bomb.
A guy with a bag of bricks on top of a tall building.
A guy with a faulty water heater which produces carbon monoxide fumes that suffocate the SM in his sleep.

The logical flaw with SMs is that while they are awesome at straight 1-2-1 combat, they aren't invulnerable or immortal and can be killed in a variety of fairly ordinary means.

Because they are so expensive, and relatively easy to kill, they will usually lose by attrition to ordinary troops.

One flaw... as pointed in DOW II the book.... SM dont sleep but for a hour every 3-4 days

Actually, when 4 hours per night of sleep is not available, they "Shut off" half their brain for 4, alternating between hemispheres at the 2 hr mark. At least going by what the 3rd Ed Codex says, which I'm far more inclined to believe over a DoW book - especially after CS "Fething Multilaz0rz" Goto and his Grav Tank that get 'Sploded by a kid with a rock.

Bran Dawri wrote:Fremen, especially when fighting on Arrakis, probably could. The Emperor there also had genetically engineered supersoldiers, and the Fremen wiped the floor with them.

Pak (or humans gone) Protectors, from Larry Niven's Known Space. Kzinti are probably a pretty good match as well, especially up close and personal.
Heck, humans from that universe are a pretty good match, considering peoples there tend to actually use their brains.

Sardukar weren't genetically engineered; they were raised on what was essentially a death world meaning only the strongest survived

Retribution wrote:

Bran Dawri wrote:Fremen, especially when fighting on Arrakis, probably could. The Emperor there also had genetically engineered supersoldiers, and the Fremen wiped the floor with them.

Pak (or humans gone) Protectors, from Larry Niven's Known Space. Kzinti are probably a pretty good match as well, especially up close and personal.
Heck, humans from that universe are a pretty good match, considering peoples there tend to actually use their brains.

Sardukar weren't genetically engineered; they were raised on what was essentially a death world meaning only the strongest survived

Still, have you seen them in Emperor: Battle for Dune? They had fething chainguns that ripped up tanks, and they were capable of surviving direct sniper hits. I'd say about three Sardaukar could take down a Space Marine (outside of close combat).

SPBWF7 wrote:

UppityGrot wrote:The marines from starcraft

A lot of things from Starcraft could kill your average 40k Space Marine.

Such as Hydralisks (they kill everything, and burrow, and, well, has 10-15 hundred zerglings around to use as meatshields (in an actual combat how the zerg are described to fight, i.e., give Tyranid swarms (again fluff-wise) a run for their money, body-count wise.)

Or Wraiths (clocking is fun) or ghosts (see earlier parentheses statement, also, nukes), siege tanks, Goliaths, science vessels (irradiate ability), Battlecruisers, packs of zerglings, zerg guardians, protoss zealots/dragoons/reavers/carriers/scouts/dark templars/archons so on and so forth

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also, RAYNOR.

Enough said.

Can't really agree here. Starcraft marines would get hammered by 40k marines. Superior strenght, speed, fire power and a far superior being in the armor itself.

A single hydralisk probably wouldn't beat a SM.

Ghost's are just vindicare assasins with nukes

And well.. vehicles, their not vehicles for nothin eh?

Battlecruisers are wimpy compared to 40k Ships

Protoss would give most things a run for their money though

Arnie as the terminator

You mean the Terminator who couldn't even kill an unarmed woman?

It all really depends on which fluff you go on really.

I really think Starcraft Marines would give 40k Marines hell. The reason is that even though the guy in the suit isn't the same as a SM, he is still pretty well off due to the armor and weapons. The Gauss rifle can be given Depleted Uranium rounds and fires anti-armor spikes, so I think, in all honesty, it could chew through SM armor pretty quick. The armor is also pretty good, bringing the guy inside to the strength and speed of a SM. They would also outnumber the 40k Marines too, by a rather large number.

Also, what about the Brotherhood of Steel from Fallout? The Power Armor is pretty much equivalent to SM Power Armor and their weaponry is nothing to sneeze at either.

I think the Terminator would only lose due to a lack of speed really. Ever notice how disoriented he gets when knocked down and such?

Soladrin wrote:

SPBWF7 wrote:

UppityGrot wrote:The marines from starcraft

A lot of things from Starcraft could kill your average 40k Space Marine.

Such as Hydralisks (they kill everything, and burrow, and, well, has 10-15 hundred zerglings around to use as meatshields (in an actual combat how the zerg are described to fight, i.e., give Tyranid swarms (again fluff-wise) a run for their money, body-count wise.)

Or Wraiths (clocking is fun) or ghosts (see earlier parentheses statement, also, nukes), siege tanks, Goliaths, science vessels (irradiate ability), Battlecruisers, packs of zerglings, zerg guardians, protoss zealots/dragoons/reavers/carriers/scouts/dark templars/archons so on and so forth

Not to mention all the killy new stuff in SC2


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also, RAYNOR.

Enough said.

Can't really agree here. Starcraft marines would get hammered by 40k marines. Superior strenght, speed, fire power and a far superior being in the armor itself.

A single hydralisk probably wouldn't beat a SM.

Ghost's are just vindicare assasins with nukes

And well.. vehicles, their not vehicles for nothin eh?

Battlecruisers are wimpy compared to 40k Ships

Protoss would give most things a run for their money though

On Hydralisks, they never operate alone (at least fluffwise, ex: In the in game cinematics, Hydralisks were always in groups, wither with packs of zerglings, or packs of other hydralisks)
And, the loss of one hydralisk really isn't that big a deal, heck, you can go ahead and kill hundreds if you want to try, they're just distracting you from the nydus worm (SC2) about to deploy ultralisks into your rear.

But, that is the Beuty of zerg, you can kill, some, but htere are alway more. Like the guard. Or nids. Mostly nids.

Nids nom all

AN ELIPHANT!!

Hrrrmmm.. Let's see...
Marcus Fenix and friends from Gears of War ( chainsaw guns ftw!)
Flipyap the grunt (if he went kamikaze)
Doctor Who (sonic screwdriver would shut down a marine's power armour
Crocodile Dundee (Space Marine pulls out power sword, Hogan says, 'That's not a knoif!')
Macgyver (He would kill the marine with a spork, six inches of string and a wad of used chewing gum!)

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:'That's not a knoif!'

This is a knoif!





S_P

"...That's a spoon"



And Shellshock, Laser weapons seem to kill BoS quite easily. Meanwhile, an SM practically giggles like a schoolgirl when someone tries to pop them with a lasgun, before crushing said offender's skull even without his PA on.

I coulda sworn they had a 90% resistance to laser weapons...or was that only Enclave APA in Fallout 2?

Really? Man, I always seem to own people in PA with a good *FREEM*ing

Enclave can be some tough Fethers, but for some reason I always found that energy weapons owned them but-good.

metallifan wrote:"...That's a spoon"

Ah! I see you've played knoifey-spooney before!

Back on topic, yeah, I don't really think the BoS really compare to space marines.
Let's face it, a Deathclaw doesn't really compare to a 'stealer either does it?

However, I do think the Lone Wanderer from Fallout would give marines hell.

S_P

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:
Doctor Who (sonic screwdriver would shut down a marine's power armour

Oh Please. Doctor Who would get his ass stomped just looking at a SM.

My next vote goes to Grant Imahara from Mythbusters - He could either annoy or whine a Marine to death in about 2 minutes

Nuruhuine wrote:

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:
Doctor Who (sonic screwdriver would shut down a marine's power armour

Oh Please. Doctor Who would get his ass stomped just looking at a SM.

My next vote goes to Grant Imahara from Mythbusters - He could either annoy or whine a Marine to death in about 2 minutes

Grant Imihara would tell the Space Marine that his existance is Not Plausible/Busted. The Space Marine would then, in turn, make him Busted. In the face.

Space_Potato wrote:

metallifan wrote:"...That's a spoon"

Ah! I see you've played knoifey-spooney before!

Back on topic, yeah, I don't really think the BoS really compare to space marines.
Let's face it, a Deathclaw doesn't really compare to a 'stealer either does it?

However, I do think the Lone Wanderer from Fallout would give marines hell.

S_P

Deathclaw would probably own a single genestealer... but the thing with genestealers is...

Oh, and fallout 1-2 power armor was uber resistant to pretty much everything... except the gauss rifle :3

I call it the Squish Gun. Because nothing saves you from it

Except rage quitting without saving the game.

Here we go:

Brotherhood of Steel:
-While their power armour makes them strong and offers some defense, they're no faster or more agile than a normal human; Space Marines are.
-They have nothing that'll pierce power armour save for missile launchers, and it would be quite hard to use those en masse or kill Space Marines with them. Not to mention that BoS power armour has GLARING weak spots(look at all that exposed cloth on the joints and midsection) and the rest is just steel plating... anything can chew through that given time.

Starcraft Marines:
-Once again, maybe strong and protected but still slower. I don't think they're genetically engineered like an Astartes.
-They may have armor-piercing weapons, but I'm foreseeing a lot of 5.56mm syndrome... a little piercing, but not enough knockdown. Bolter shells are bigger AND explosive... it wouldn't be hard to use a bolter to suppress and charge.

Jedi:
I love this matchup. Bolter shells are explosive... when a shell hits a lightsaber beam, it'll detonate. Open up on a Jedi, he attempts to block, and each round that's on target will either blow up in his face or straight-up hit and kill him. If he makes it into close combat he'll be riddled with shell fragments. In close combat, it depends on the Marine's armament. Ceramite could probably offer some protection against lightsabers(ceramics absorb a LOT of heat) and power weapons would probably block a lightsaber blade... a chainsword wouldn't do much, but even then the Marine has size, strength and endurance... and a Jedi isn't THAT much faster than an enhanced Astartes. I see the marine taking a lot of damage and potentially losing a limb or two, but battering his way through. Group-to-group, the Space Marines would leverage firepower... not a chance.

Riddick...with a Teacup.

THE FORK OF TRUTH!!!!!
and Richard...

JJ

I believe 80% of the things being proposed are absurd...

Riddick, honestly... maybe. Though it wouldn't be a straight up fight, Riddick would have to sneak up on a space marine, and that is pretty freaking hard.

The Shrike from Hyperion could definitely take one down. It's able to control time and space and made a person age backwards merely by touching them.

The white rabbit form Monty Python and the Holy Grail, because it has fangs.

The white rabbit form Monty Python and the Holy Grail, because it has fangs.

Necroman wrote:The Shrike from Hyperion could definitely take one down. It's able to control time and space and made a person age backwards merely by touching them.

I have to finish reading that series, the first book was great

Now I know I'm old. 18 pages and no one thought of these guys:


Dr. Who- If he has his Sonic Screwdriver.

Agent J and Agent K of the MIB

Connor McCleod- As long as Series Executives aren't pushing Adrian Paul and ruining the History, there was a rumor once that the Emprah was based upon the Character.

Flash Gordon- because of his connections with old school Eldar(Jet-Bikes and Hawkmen, Get it ................Aw you kids just don't know good comedy .)


There are others, but I think that is enough

FLY MY HAWKMEN!!

S_P

focusedfire wrote:Connor McCleod- As long as Series Executives aren't pushing Adrian Paul and ruining the History, there was a rumor once that the Emprah was based upon the Character.

Nah, chainswords cut immortal heads just as they cut through any IG. However, in the end, there can be only one, i just doubt it's McLeod in this case

aka_tizz wrote:

focusedfire wrote:Connor McCleod- As long as Series Executives aren't pushing Adrian Paul and ruining the History, there was a rumor once that the Emprah was based upon the Character.

Nah, chainswords cut immortal heads just as they cut through any IG. However, in the end, there can be only one, i just doubt it's McLeod in this case

SM => Emperor, Now that is some Imperium level thinking that I have only one response to. HERETIC!!!.....Not that is a bad thing.

The Grim Squeaker

Bruce lee would kill the space marine and chuck norris put together. Oooooh, that just gave me a good idea, imagine bruce lee or chuck norris in a space marine suit.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster
Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen
A Bronze dragon from Anne Mcaffrey's Dragons of Pern. (If you havn't heard of it, these books are some of the greatest Sci-fi books of the 70s and 80s.)
Possibly Iron Man or Hellboy?

http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1265176060

BTW, Sam Fisher, Rainbow Field Teams, or a Ghost Recon squad could do it.

Owain wrote:Here we go:

Brotherhood of Steel:
-While their power armour makes them strong and offers some defense, they're no faster or more agile than a normal human; Space Marines are.
-They have nothing that'll pierce power armour save for missile launchers, and it would be quite hard to use those en masse or kill Space Marines with them. Not to mention that BoS power armour has GLARING weak spots(look at all that exposed cloth on the joints and midsection) and the rest is just steel plating... anything can chew through that given time.

Starcraft Marines:
-Once again, maybe strong and protected but still slower. I don't think they're genetically engineered like an Astartes.
-They may have armor-piercing weapons, but I'm foreseeing a lot of 5.56mm syndrome... a little piercing, but not enough knockdown. Bolter shells are bigger AND explosive... it wouldn't be hard to use a bolter to suppress and charge.

Jedi:
I love this matchup. Bolter shells are explosive... when a shell hits a lightsaber beam, it'll detonate. Open up on a Jedi, he attempts to block, and each round that's on target will either blow up in his face or straight-up hit and kill him. If he makes it into close combat he'll be riddled with shell fragments. In close combat, it depends on the Marine's armament. Ceramite could probably offer some protection against lightsabers(ceramics absorb a LOT of heat) and power weapons would probably block a lightsaber blade... a chainsword wouldn't do much, but even then the Marine has size, strength and endurance... and a Jedi isn't THAT much faster than an enhanced Astartes. I see the marine taking a lot of damage and potentially losing a limb or two, but battering his way through. Group-to-group, the Space Marines would leverage firepower... not a chance.

BoS power armor didn't have any of those weak spots(though it would still suck in comparison to SM armor) in 1 or 2 and they had plenty that would pierce SM armor. Plasma weapons, gatling laser, Vindicator gatling gun, Gauss Rifle, the old powercell that used microfusion cells for ammo.....

Rest, I heartily agree with XD

Owain wrote:
Jedi:
I love this matchup. Bolter shells are explosive... when a shell hits a lightsaber beam, it'll detonate. Open up on a Jedi, he attempts to block, and each round that's on target will either blow up in his face or straight-up hit and kill him. If he makes it into close combat he'll be riddled with shell fragments. In close combat, it depends on the Marine's armament. Ceramite could probably offer some protection against lightsabers(ceramics absorb a LOT of heat) and power weapons would probably block a lightsaber blade... a chainsword wouldn't do much, but even then the Marine has size, strength and endurance... and a Jedi isn't THAT much faster than an enhanced Astartes. I see the marine taking a lot of damage and potentially losing a limb or two, but battering his way through. Group-to-group, the Space Marines would leverage firepower... not a chance.

Yeah, but couldn't the Jedi forsee the SMs attacks? Plus you completely forgot about force powers. A Jedi could just pull the bolter out of the SMs hands before he could react.

Force Lightning /end thread

Force chocke is better in 1v1

The force unleashed does not support your argument.

A piece of Cheese with a las-gun


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Space_Potato wrote:

FLY MY HAWKMEN!!

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DUDE!!!!!!!!
where is this from?

Commissar NIkev wrote:A piece of Cheese with a las-gun


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Space_Potato wrote:

FLY MY HAWKMEN!!

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DUDE!!!!!!!!
where is this from?

Sigh, I didn't even live in the 70s and I know what Flash Gordon is. You sad little man, go sit in the corner and think about what you've done, then google it.

The real question is: could a Jedi take on a Warlock?

Soladrin wrote:

Owain wrote:Here we go:

Brotherhood of Steel:
-While their power armour makes them strong and offers some defense, they're no faster or more agile than a normal human; Space Marines are.
-They have nothing that'll pierce power armour save for missile launchers, and it would be quite hard to use those en masse or kill Space Marines with them. Not to mention that BoS power armour has GLARING weak spots(look at all that exposed cloth on the joints and midsection) and the rest is just steel plating... anything can chew through that given time.

Starcraft Marines:
-Once again, maybe strong and protected but still slower. I don't think they're genetically engineered like an Astartes.
-They may have armor-piercing weapons, but I'm foreseeing a lot of 5.56mm syndrome... a little piercing, but not enough knockdown. Bolter shells are bigger AND explosive... it wouldn't be hard to use a bolter to suppress and charge.

Jedi:
I love this matchup. Bolter shells are explosive... when a shell hits a lightsaber beam, it'll detonate. Open up on a Jedi, he attempts to block, and each round that's on target will either blow up in his face or straight-up hit and kill him. If he makes it into close combat he'll be riddled with shell fragments. In close combat, it depends on the Marine's armament. Ceramite could probably offer some protection against lightsabers(ceramics absorb a LOT of heat) and power weapons would probably block a lightsaber blade... a chainsword wouldn't do much, but even then the Marine has size, strength and endurance... and a Jedi isn't THAT much faster than an enhanced Astartes. I see the marine taking a lot of damage and potentially losing a limb or two, but battering his way through. Group-to-group, the Space Marines would leverage firepower... not a chance.

BoS power armor didn't have any of those weak spots(though it would still suck in comparison to SM armor) in 1 or 2 and they had plenty that would pierce SM armor. Plasma weapons, gatling laser, Vindicator gatling gun, Gauss Rifle, the old powercell that used microfusion cells for ammo.....

Rest, I heartily agree with XD

On the Starcraft space marines, they have plenty of stopping power. Consider this:

2.1 x 10^5 J: Single round of depleted uranium from an A-10 Warthog's GAU-8 rotating cannon (1,800 rpm) = 50 grams TNT equivalent (taken from Boom Table -> http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3x1.html)

Now, that pierces the armor of most modern armored vehicles, except for the newest main battle tanks.

The Starcraft Space Marines all utilize the C-17 Gauss Rifle (if I recall correctly, I don't have the main book with me). As seen in the game/book, this fires depleted uranium munitions in 5 round bursts, TO PREVENT OVERHEATING, meaning that the munitions are moving through the barrel at extremely high speeds (also extrapolated from the fact that these are gauss rifles (i.e. magnetically accelerated, i.e. similar to micro rail-guns). The energy that will be imparted through those munitions would easily surpass the energy given above, as the energy is dependent on the mass multiplied by the square of the velocity. Higher velocity gives you mush more higher energy, and thus stopping power, than mass.

Now, if you want to consider the possibility of 40k Space Marine power armor as having Whipple shield (hypervelocity weapons can be stopped (for a while) by a Whipple shield (until it is shot full of holes). Whipple shields are set at some distance from the hull, if the spacing is larger than the radius of the explosion(the hypervelocity munition would explode due to shear force of impact), the shield takes damage but the hull does not), this is where burst fire comes into play.

An Elite Honor guard from halo. A space marine wouldn't see him with his cloaking devise activated and then he would slice the space marine in half with his Energy Sword.

HighProphetOfDestruction wrote:An Elite Honor guard from halo. A space marine wouldn't see him with his cloaking devise activated and then he would slice the space marine in half with his Energy Sword.

Er... Honor Guards don't have cloaking devices, last time I checked. Neither do Elite Honor Guards.

Was this in one of the books?

Maybe he's confused with the arbiter? He used to be a zealot and they look similar to elite honour guards.

Raptor Jesus.

Retribution wrote:The real question is: could a Jedi take on a Warlock?

Nope....Warlock would win.........no question.....


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Munch Munch! wrote:Maybe he's confused with the arbiter? He used to be a zealot and they look similar to elite honour guards.

he could be mistaking them with the Regular elites.....I remember playing halo 2 and I think reading some of the books and the Elites could Cloak (COWARDS). =/

Any main character from any Final fantasy ESPECIALLY cloud (can block/dodge bullets and busters/neo busters weight would see him through the ceramite id you do not know what i mean watch advent children) and Squall (Id like to see a marine stand up to him when he uses leonhart)

Sutekh from Doctor Who could do it; he destroys stars with his mind.

This really all depends on which weaponry the Space Marine is given. Chainsword? Gonna probably not do well against a lot of foes. Bolter? A rapidfire grenade launcher puts him head and shoulders above the competition.

For the whole Elite thing... Anyone wielding an Energy Sword isn't going to be much of a threat, with it requiring them to be in range. The Arbiter could probably do it with some range, but is dead as soon as he's close up. An invisible elite could do it, but he has to be very stealthy... Something which I've noticed invisible Elites kinda suck at, much to my pleasure when killing them. Tartarus could definitely do it; explosives did zilch against his weird energy shield, and only extremely high firepower (Beam rifle) could disable it temporarily. And one hit from his hammer will flatten the Space Marine. Unless that Space Marine has a Melta or power weapon or whatnot, in which case Tartarus becomes the unfortunate victim of high firepower.

Commissar NIkev wrote:Nope....Warlock would win.........no question.....

Depends on WHICH Jedi or Sith. Some are pretty pathetic; Nihilus can kill everything on a planet with a thought.

P.S. I figured out where Honor Guards have cloaking; in Halo Wars, you can apparently get it as an upgrade.

As I asked above, could Iron Man or maybe Hellboy have any chance?

Boss 'eadbreaka wrote:As I asked above, could Iron Man or maybe Hellboy have any chance?

I dont think hellboy would, although its hard for me to say (he does have a grown on powerfist) but i think that if tony stark survived his first encounter with a space marine, he would alter/create an iron man suit that could take out marines.... OR he would just launch the Jericho missile

Yes, Iron Man could. Hellboy, no, as he is essentially a normal daemon. Or really a Nazi Daemon, but that isn't the point.

Tim the Biovore wrote:Yes, Iron Man could. Hellboy, no, as he is essentially a normal daemon. Or really a Nazi Daemon, but that isn't the point.

Yes, but what would The Samaritan or Big Baby do to a marine? The former might be comparable to perhaps a Hotshot Laspistol and the latter made such a big mess of that plant monster in The Golden Army, that I don't think power armour would stand up to it.

How about the Balrog, oh wait..... that's a bloodthirster! how about The Guyver, he could give SM a rum for their money.

One eyed one horned flying purple people eater? That oir the christmas critters from southpark...

Necroman wrote:

HighProphetOfDestruction wrote:An Elite Honor guard from halo. A space marine wouldn't see him with his cloaking devise activated and then he would slice the space marine in half with his Energy Sword.

Er... Honor Guards don't have cloaking devices, last time I checked. Neither do Elite Honor Guards.

Was this in one of the books?

Elite honor guards could cloak in halo wars. I can't remember if they did in any other games or in the books but i know for sure they could in halo wars.

HighProphetOfDestruction wrote:

Necroman wrote:

HighProphetOfDestruction wrote:An Elite Honor guard from halo. A space marine wouldn't see him with his cloaking devise activated and then he would slice the space marine in half with his Energy Sword.

Er... Honor Guards don't have cloaking devices, last time I checked. Neither do Elite Honor Guards.

Was this in one of the books?

Elite honor guards could cloak in halo wars. I can't remember if they did in any other games or in the books but i know for sure they could in halo wars.

You mean game. Honour guards are only featured in halo 2 (not counting the afore-mentioned halo wars game)

This has probably been brought up already but: The Death Star. If it's close enough, it just crushes the marine. If it's far away, it just fires all of its turbolaser batteries.

HighProphetOfDestruction wrote:Elite honor guards could cloak in halo wars. I can't remember if they did in any other games or in the books but i know for sure they could in halo wars.

They didn't have it in Halo 2 (If they did, Regret on Legendary would have gone from "Very difficult" to "DEARGODNOTANOTHERONE").

It seems it was just added as a sot of cool idea for Halo Wars gameplay. Kinda like how all Brutes upgrade with jetpacks, or Jackals wield shields and beam rifles at the same time.

@Boss 'eadbreaka. So you're telling me that shooting a plant to death is harder than killing humanity's finest?

Tim the Biovore wrote:@Boss 'eadbreaka. So you're telling me that shooting a plant to death is harder than killing humanity's finest?

I think he's talking if a space marine was launched AT the death star...

Everyone knows just about everything else in the 40K universe can take down a space marine.

A lucky shot from a lasgun all the way to a Tyranid Biotitan or Daemon Prince smiting a power armoured guy asunder.

The question isn't can you hit him, but can you hit him hard enough to make sure he stays down.

Mass fire is one way to take down a space marine army. If you get enough hits there's no way the power armour will save enough wounds to let the marines live.
Uber hard units is another, more difficult way.
A Chaos Daemon Prince can take down space marines with ease (daemon sword, Str 10 etc). but he costs a lot of points....same with every other BIG killer.

And that's the thing. Either you spend a lot of points on a lot of little guns. or a lot of points on a few big ones. Either way you have to spend a lot of points to make sure the boys in technicolour power armour go down.
And the more you spend, the more they can bring their own big guns to the table.

Flash Gordon

It's kinda off topic, but I can't resist it



GORDON'S ALIVE!

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darthmatty wrote:How about the Balrog, oh wait..... that's a bloodthirster! how about The Guyver, he could give SM a rum for their money.

The Guyver could no doubt kill a space marine! If he doesn't win the first couple hundred times he'll just keep regenerating until he does ^.^

Dark Helmet probably would be able to do it.
The internet.

Ah-nold Dog could do it

Guess what!!!!!

^^^^
It could kill just about anything.

That rabbit got killed by a Holy Hand Grenade. It be weaksauce.

Don't you kids know it's all about the Priceless Ming Vase? Or the Mad Cow strike?

metallifan wrote:That rabbit got killed by a Holy Hand Grenade. It be weaksauce.

Don't you kids know it's all about the Priceless Ming Vase? Or the Mad Cow strike?

sorry, i am stuck at the Ministry of Silly Walks, waiting for mine to get approval


Ohh, and if all marine weapons are treated like holy relics.. then all marine grenades are Holy Hand Grenades

Any Sith Lord.

Predator

Alien

Buffy the Vampire Slayer if she gets lucky

The common cold. Nothing in medical science can prevent you cathing a cold!

I donno, I think even CREEEEEEEED could kill a Sith

Well, of course. All he would have to do is outflank a titan into the sith's robes.

Or maybe he'd outflank so deviously that the Sith would -turn into- a titan, completely taking him (Sith) by suprise.

.......I don't Know if anybody said it but.....
sitting here, their song just came on my Ipod......
The POWER RANGERS!!!!!!

metallifan wrote:Or maybe he'd outflank so deviously that the Sith would -turn into- a titan, completely taking him (Sith) completely by suprise.

So you then get a gigantic, lightsaber wielding, dark-side powered titan with the voice of James Earl Jones.

Commissar NIkev wrote:.......I don't Know if anybody said it but.....
sitting here, their song just came on my Ipod......
The POWER RANGERS!!!!!!

No, just no. Have you ever actually seen the show? If you gave 'em a high five, they'd explode in an overly exaggerated shower of sparks.

Necroman wrote:

metallifan wrote:Or maybe he'd outflank so deviously that the Sith would -turn into- a titan, completely taking him (Sith) completely by suprise.

So you then get a gigantic, lightsaber wielding, dark-side powered titan with the voice of James Earl Jones.

No. The Lightsaber wouldn't grow with him. You'd just have a big evil titan that sounds like he has an Asthma problem

Munch Munch! wrote:

Commissar NIkev wrote:.......I don't Know if anybody said it but.....
sitting here, their song just came on my Ipod......
The POWER RANGERS!!!!!!

No, just no. Have you ever actually seen the show? If you gave 'em a high five, they'd explode in an overly exaggerated shower of sparks.

Of course I've seen the show!!!!! Thats what made it so funny(thinking about it now and talking to my friends about it). Terrible aim, kinda cool suits, the power to summon terrible looking robots with terrible mechanics, and Sparks for blood. That is what made me like it a LOT!!!!!!!They rule!

metallifan wrote:

Necroman wrote:

metallifan wrote:Or maybe he'd outflank so deviously that the Sith would -turn into- a titan, completely taking him (Sith) completely by suprise.

So you then get a gigantic, lightsaber wielding, dark-side powered titan with the voice of James Earl Jones.

No. The Lightsaber wouldn't grow with him. You'd just have a big evil titan that sounds like he has an Asthma problem

The Adeptus Mechanicus could make a lightsaber...

I'm now having visions of a horde of Stormtrooper colored Warhound titans being lead by a Darth Vader Reaver titan, complete with cape and ridiculously oversized lightsaber.

I still crack up when I think about the fact that they originally had an Irish guy playing Darth O'Vader

Title question..

A 20 page thread of nonsense..

The man-eating Barn in Shaman's pic could totally take one down.

Uhm, my girlfriend when shes P.M.S.ing

Oooh, hope she doesn't read dakka.