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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Genestealer wrote:@Deff Dread: You've said that before as well. You might want to get some sleep, mate. It is undeniable that TLOG is using scummy logic. Whether this is just him being scummy, or him being a scummy genestealer is nowhere near as clear. How about we lynch him and found out?  (I love Imperial logic  ) Hmmm.... Let's all kill the guy with the bolter!! Vote:Emperors Faithful Edit: [b/] to [/b]
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
2 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy Emperor's Faithful)
1 - BrotherStynier (ginger_nid_dude)
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
1 - Emperor's Faithul (lord of the ghosts)
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron )
4 - the_ferrett (Gornall Drk_O Rusty Knight n0t_u )
1 - ginger_nid_dude (Fifty )
0 - Lord-Loss
1 - Dark Lord Seanron ( Lord-Loss)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: BrotherStynier Deff Dread red Edition Vulkan_He'stan the_ferrett
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
lord of the ghosts wrote:Genestealer wrote:@Deff Dread: You've said that before as well. You might want to get some sleep, mate.
It is undeniable that TLOG is using scummy logic. Whether this is just him being scummy, or him being a scummy genestealer is nowhere near as clear.
How about we lynch him and found out?  (I love Imperial logic  )
Hmmm.... Let's all kill the guy with the bolter!!
Vote:Emperors Faithful
Edit: [b/] to [/b]
I see what you did there...
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:lord of the ghosts wrote:Genestealer wrote: It is undeniable that TLOG is using scummy logic. Whether this is just him being scummy, or him being a scummy genestealer is nowhere near as clear. How about we lynch him and found out?  (I love Imperial logic  )
I see what you did there... 
OOC:Isn't that cool?  EDIT:quote
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
"I have no idea what the lot of you are on about, you are detracting from the case at hand."
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
BrotherStynier wrote:"I have no idea what the lot of you are on about, you are detracting from the case at hand."
Instead of EF said: I put Genestealer. I will not talk about that again.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
lord of the ghosts wrote:Genestealer wrote:@Deff Dread: You've said that before as well. You might want to get some sleep, mate.
It is undeniable that TLOG is using scummy logic. Whether this is just him being scummy, or him being a scummy genestealer is nowhere near as clear.
How about we lynch him and found out?  (I love Imperial logic  )
Hmmm.... Let's all kill the guy with the bolter!!
Vote:Emperors Faithful
Edit: [b/] to [/b]
Hmm, I question your scummy logic and you jump out with a retalitory vote against me. Without any basis for it. Scared? Feeling a bit threatened are you, Lord of Genestealers?
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Post by: the_ferrett
EF, watch out, you keep saying everything is scummy. People might be offended.
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Post by: SagesStone
OOC: I have no other questions at the moment, as any I have thought up have been asked and answered, and we seem to need to post at least once a day in this...
Go useless filler post
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
the_ferrett wrote:EF, watch out, you keep saying everything is scummy. People might be offended. Forgive me if I don't seem like I worry about hurting genestealers feelings. I call it like I see it, and IMO lord of the ghosts' logic is worth gak. What do you think of this character, who deems you to be 47% genestealer and says he's a Pubescent Marine?
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Post by: the_ferrett
If I thought all who accused me scummy, well I'd be insulting alot of people. Although, 47% is a fairly random number. I prefer 42.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
42. I see what you did there.
I was accusing him of general scummy..ish...ness long before he voted for me. He failure of logic and all round hyperbole both made me sick and sparked my suspicion. Only after I voted for him and demanded that he talk did he vote back. And he hasn't given a what or a why since or before then.
Random? Yes.
Scummy? Yeah.
Genestealer? Maybe. He's not talking.
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Post by: Mekboy
As I said, LotG is using increasingly scummy logic. LotG, when someone votes for you, simply putting a retaliatory vote back is no use to the imperium, if you are indeed a normal citizen. As Thor told me last game, the objective of the imperial citizens is not to survive, but to find genestealers. Just because someone votes for you, doesn't make them a 'stealer. Voting back simply incriminates you more, which can't be good for the imperium (assuming you're just a normal citizen), can it? Ergo, if you continue with this whole retaliation vote thing, you're most probably a 'stealer. EDIT: Me no spell good.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
lord of ghosts that is very scummy indeed
vote: lord of ghosts
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Post by: the_ferrett
Not to be rude or anything... but if we're waiting until 1-2 hours left, shouldn't we all be not voting? Or... wait what are we actually waiting for in terms of 'hours' (See OOC days)? Not that I don't appreciate the holding off of the metaphorical flames up the.... Nope that'd be a stupid metaphor to use as that term now means something else. Was going to go with a Salem metaphor.
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Post by: Mekboy
If we don't vote now, we have nothing to go on to decide who to vote on at the end of the day.
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Post by: the_ferrett
But won't it just push the votes to a third almost which we'll disqualify, realise we're rushing it and all scramble to make a final choice which will be sub-par? Why don't we set a time when we can start the final run and when we get to essentially lock in with a side.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I will vote nearier the end of the day. Im watching now.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
the_ferret: What are you trying to say? You want us to all vote (for someone) now? Rather than wait till closer to the deadline? I understand what you mean by the last minute rush to choose someone but I believe Lord Loss is right when he says we should stretch the discussion out a bit. (Of course, 11 pages on Day 1 is fairly stretched as it is.  )
@Lord Loss: Voting now would be useful, noone is too close to the deadmark and I'd like to see where you stand. Who do you find to be the most suspicious so far?
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Post by: Fifty
((OOC We started on 5th Jan, it is a 2 week day phase, so we have ages to decide, right? Just want to check the first day is the same length as any other...)))
Dark Lord Seanron seems very suspicious right now... His defenses of his actions seem odd. "Blood-letting psycopath" rather than "alien", as if being an alien is not remarkable at all... to him.
Mekboy seems very keen to get people voting - is he a xenos trying to get people lynched by accident?
Is Lord-Loss a 'stealer trying to misdirect people away from himself? I doubt it, but it would be unwise to discount it. Emperor's Faithful now seems to be quite guided by Lord-Loss, after earlier disagreement... was all of that a ruse to make people think they are enemies, whilst in truth they are allies in their evil xenos plot?
Ferret's unusual voting pattern is worrying, to say the least, from what I can work out.
Gornall seems very logical and only says what he has to - is he a sly killer on the lookout for prey?
All of this has left me not knowing who to trust. Even from the rest of you, I am worried that I can't trust any of you yet.
As for when night comes - I dread to think who will get killed. Whoever it is, I worry that we will learn little at the first death, as the 'stealers may be wary of killing anyone who stands out as they are likely to get lynched anyway, saving themselves the bother...
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
The ferret, you want us all to vote, possibly to rush the day phase? Maybe because you have your assassination planned? Regardless Vote: The ferret
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Post by: Mekboy
Fifty wrote:Mekboy seems very keen to get people voting - is he a xenos trying to get people lynched by accident?
Surely you do not advise that we simply wait for day to tick over into night, and let the genestealers pick us off one by one?
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Post by: Fifty
No, I think you are probably just trying to get people thinking... just an observation. It occurs to me to stop telling people how to avoid giving themselves away, however.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
ginger_nid_dude wrote:The ferret, you want us all to vote, possibly to rush the day phase? Maybe because you have your assassination planned? Regardless Vote: The ferret
the_ferret hasn't actually said that he want's us all to vote now. (Indeed, right now HE is the one with most votes against him, so it's not the best thing for him to advise) He simply wishes to avoid a last minute rush to get a lynch (any lynch) if we delay until the deadline creeps up.
@Fifty: I understand what you're saying, but sooner or later you're going to have to pick some friends. Right now I am fairly certain that Lord Loss is decidely not a genestealer as his reasonable defense of both Drk_O AND the_ferret is very ungenestealer like. A genestealer would probably encourage, or at the least not act against a quick lynch. Lord Loss defended those who looked liek they were heading to a quick lynch on two seperate occasions, one would have been enough if he was a genestealer wanting a smokescreen, but a genestealer wouldn't go out of his way and put himself in the spotlight to protect two innocents (And I have already stated why I believe Drk_O and the_ferret far too unlikely to be genestealers).
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I find DLS most suspicous at the moment. He seems not to care whether the first lynch is a citizen or a 'stealer. This is an important part of the game and the amount of discussion we get before someone is lynched or night-killed is important. A good 'stealer will cast doubt after a night kill, they will most likely target someone who has conflict with another innocent. That way they can make the innocent seem very suspicous. We should all watch out for this. If we have a doctor here, I urge you too protect someone who uses logic and fits the above description for 'stealer targets. While some people may make stupid mistakes, It doesnt mean there 'stealers.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Great. Now the genestealers are going to read this and target dumb people. (Help!  ) Or they'll target you. *points at monitor*
Serious face: LOTG's voting pattern is very 'erratic' right now. I would call it downright suspicious, but this could just be the voting pattern of a very silly (and not at all helpful) Citizen. I'm not too sure about that though.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
You must vote how you feel is right, of course.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
What I find strange is that DLS knows (or at least suspects) that Drk_O was only joking around but is still dead set against him.
BrotherStynier wrote:You must vote how you feel is right, of course.
Feelings mean nothing in the Imperium.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I really dont know how to vote at the moment. Im suspicous of everyone really. And though Dark Lord Seanron is very suspicous, this could be the work of an over-excited citizen. The same goes for Drk_Oblit and The_Ferret.
BrotherStynier wrote:You must vote how you feel is right, of course.
Wrong, dont rely on hunches. Use evidence from previous discussions to help find 'stealers. Reading over the thread again can help.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
If you act on fact presented to you, they affect your feelings on the matter, thus you'll still be doing what you feel to be correct.
I've read over this thread, so far any "Evidence" against anyone person would be rather lacking, so far the evidence points to:
-One of us not knowing when to stop running a joke into the ground.
-One of us appearing rather blood thirsty.
-One of us pulling percentages and theories about who is loyal and who is not out of their ass.
-Against me you've got my being not hostile towards everyone, my voting for Drk_O and saying that you need to trust you instincts and feelings on the first day.
-And then theres you, who has been suspiciously protective of certain individuals.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I was trying to stop a early first day lynch, I wasnt defending there actions.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
A little touchy about being under suspicion? I know the first couple of times were, but your repeated defenses?
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Repeated defences of who?
My actions were pro-Imperium, I was trying to make 1)A longer day 1, so more discussion, which is GOOD FOR THE IMPERIUM. 2)Stop someone getting lynched because of a joke, which is GOOD FOR THE IMPERIUM.
I rest my case
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
BrotherStynier wrote:A little touchy about being under suspicion? I know the first couple of times were, but your repeated defenses?
Lord-Loss wrote:Repeated defences of who?
My actions were pro-Imperium, I was trying to make 1)A longer day 1, so more discussion, which is GOOD FOR THE IMPERIUM. 2)Stop someone getting lynched because of a joke, which is GOOD FOR THE IMPERIUM.
I rest my case 
I agree with Lord Loss here. He hasn't actually defended their actions, he's merely stopped an early lynch. You're jumping at shadows here. How is Lord Loss acting touchy? (You're using the same logic that got me killed in our last round)
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
BrotherStynier wrote:If you act on fact presented to you, they affect your feelings on the matter, thus you'll still be doing what you feel to be correct.
I've read over this thread, so far any "Evidence" against anyone person would be rather lacking, so far the evidence points to:
-One of us not knowing when to stop running a joke into the ground. Genestealer? Unlikely.
-One of us appearing rather blood thirsty. More than one.
-One of us pulling percentages and theories about who is loyal and who is not out of their ass. Is this what a genestealer would do? Yes. But they'd be an awfully bad genestealer. Besides I'm soon as lynch him just for that annoying marine story.
-Against me you've got my being not hostile towards everyone, my voting for Drk_O and saying that you need to trust you instincts and feelings on the first day. This is actually what the_ferret said. You're encouraging people to go on thier gut instincts. Lord Loss is encouraging people to read through the thread (which I doubt many will bother) and look at the evidence present first.
-And then theres you, who has been suspiciously protective of certain individuals.
Look at above post. And honestly the chances of a Lord Loss, Drk_O and the_ferret team make no sense as we've been at each others throats and in the spotlight. Something a genestealer would want to avoid.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Emperors Faithful wrote:Great. Now the genestealers are going to read this and target dumb people. (Help!  ) Or they'll target you. *points at monitor*
Serious face: LOTG's voting pattern is very 'erratic' right now. I would call it downright suspicious, but this could just be the voting pattern of a very silly (and not at all helpful) Citizen. I'm not too sure about that though.
I think Ef has unlocked the un-random-random-ness. That is why I am voting for EF. But now everyone will think I am a crazy marine. I can't tell anyone, or else I'll die. They will know.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Lol Wut?  Why are you voting for me again?
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Post by: RustyKnight
"What? 'Un-random-randomness'?"
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Post by: the_ferrett
What I asked was a time to be set for when voting would get serious. I suggest 6 hours before dusk (eg 4 RL days time). At this moment we seem to be using votes to get people to explain themselves. Voting to actually lynch someone has yet to commence by all wording.
As for erratic voting? I've voted twice, once to Drk_O and once to RustyKnight. Please get your facts right.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
the_ferrett wrote:What I asked was a time to be set for when voting would get serious. I suggest 6 hours before dusk (eg 4 RL days time). At this moment we seem to be using votes to get people to explain themselves. Voting to actually lynch someone has yet to commence by all wording.
As for erratic voting? I've voted twice, once to Drk_O and once to RustyKnight. Please get your facts right.
LOTG = lord of the ghosts. I haven't called your voting erratic at all.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"You seem a bit jumpy there Ferrett, perhaps a bit too much so."
OOC:Really just a filler post again, as once again all my questions were asked and answered.
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Post by: Gornall
Remember that whoever has the most votes on them at the deadline is lynched automatically, so we do not have to come to a full consensus. That being said, I would argue that every vote is "serious", whether it's for pressure or to try and drop the hammer on someone. That's why I think every vote should come with a pretty good explanation of why it's being voted.
OOC:: Kinda busy IRL atm, will post a more thorough set of arguments/suspicions after I get a chance to read what happened over the weekend.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
I woke up. I'll rest the other side of my brain. *yawns, which sounds like a roar in his mask* This is cool. I never completely sleep. Oh, let's clear that vote there, UNvote: Emperors Faithful
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Lord Of The Ghosts, I urge you to stop all this 'space marine' crap. Because frankly, no-one is buying it.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Okay, if by the time we reach the deadline and have not elected a proabable genestealer, can we at least lynch this fella? His claim to be a Juvenille Space Marine is quite annoying.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
EF, if we don't have a majority vote for someone by the end of the day, then we lynch the person most people voted for.
(OOC: What would happen in case of 2 or more people with the same amount of votes?)
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Lynch both? ^_^
I know, it was sort of a joke. This Day has sort of hit a deadend as several people (I'm looking at you, DLS and LotG) haven't responded to any questions. And these are the most suspicioius characters right now.
Maybe adding another vote will help.
Vote: Dark Lord Seanron
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Emperors Faithful wrote:Okay, if by the time we reach the deadline and have not elected a proabable genestealer, can we at least lynch this fella? His claim to be a Juvenille Space Marine is quite annoying.
You think a normal man can have a face like this, and survive? *takes off mask to show a skull with some meat on it. About 55% of his eye should not be showing. (  ) The other eye is gone, and is now a manchine eye. When he talks, a flap of skin widens.  there is no nose to speak of left* The warp is annoying *puts mask back on*
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"So, apparently we have in our company a teenage-zombie-space marine....Perhaps your intention was to claim a position with the astrates to gain dominion over us. I would have perhaps entertained the idea of you being a space marine, were it not for the fact that you look like an abomination. Nothing so foul could serve our god-emperor. Also I keep on going back to this point but, why would a space marine be part of a mercenary company?"
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Post by: Thor665
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:(OOC: What would happen in case of 2 or more people with the same amount of votes?)
Per the rules post at the beginning of this thread - the person who reached the number of votes that the tie is at first would be lynched. (so, two players, Player A with 3 votes and Player B with four. If someone then votes Player A so both have four and then deadline hits Player B would be lynched because he was at 4 votes first. Conversely If someone on Player B's bandwagon unvotes and drops B to 3 votes Player A would be lynched because he had been at 3 first.)
And as long as I'm here;
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
2 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy Vulkan_He'stan)
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron )
5 - the_ferrett (Gornall Drk_O Rusty Knight n0t_u ginger_nid_dude)
1 - ginger_nid_dude (Fifty )
0 - Lord-Loss
2 - Dark Lord Seanron ( Lord-Loss Emperor's Faithful)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: BrotherStynier Deff Dread red Edition the_ferrett lord of the ghosts
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:"So, apparently we have in our company a teenage-zombie-space marine....Perhaps your intention was to claim a position with the astrates to gain dominion over us. I would have perhaps entertained the idea of you being a space marine, were it not for the fact that you look like an abomination. Nothing so foul could serve our god-emperor. Also I keep on going back to this point but, why would a space marine be part of a mercenary company?"
You think a Shadow ghost is a mercenary? ( http://www.angelsghosts.com/shadow_ghosts ) On Hackarr, the only thing we have is a tree. It gives us fruit, we give it living help. When we help a planet or ship, we kindly ask them to donate items to be recycled into equipment. This might seem like getting payed, but we need that metal. Oh, let's see you get hit in the face by xenos-beelte things. I have repayed my dept of the god-emperor of man by killing muntants, it's easy to do, they think I'm one of them.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Yes, yes I do think a ghost shadow is a mercenary.You are on this expedition with us, and we are all mercenaries. Therefore I would think that you are a mercenary, if you were indeed part of this,'Ghost shadows,"chapter of space marines, wouldn't you be on this planet in force? I know that the astrates is powerful, but surely one marine isn't going to be able to save us all, also aren't you only a scout, which would make you even less powerful? They sure didn't help me and my men on Havcrom 3...but I'd rather not get into that. I still find your claims silly, and in all honesty I don't believe it one bit."
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Could we get everyone to repost why they are voting for their particular character? Just to see if anyone's thinking of changing.
I have voted for Dark Lord Seanron becuase I find his jumping on the Drk_O bandwagon with the clear intention of an early lynch awfully suspicious. That and he hasn't aptly responded to my accusations.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
i voted lord of ghostsbecause he has been using scumy logic and hasnt answered any questions
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Post by: Gornall
I voted the_ferret because him and DLS seemed to be trying to get a quick lynch off. From the sound of his vote post, it seemed like he thought his vote was going to cause a lynch, which I think was because someone unvoted a few posts prior and he missed it. (OOC:: ala Game 1) His idea of an "experiment" seemed like a weak cover to me.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
True, I've never thought about a DLS and the_ferret team up. But looking back it seems entirely possible. Keep 'em coming.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Except there was a tally right before my vote?
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Post by: Gornall
A tally that showed him at L-2. This was then followed by some votes for other people and an unvote for Dark_O. Following the unvote, EF incorrectly stated that Dark_O was L-2 and then voted for Dark_O, which would have put him at L-1. You then give a speech that sounded very much like a "hammer-dropping" speech and vote for Dark_O. You speech is what makes me think that you believed (incorrectly) that your vote was a lynch.
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Post by: the_ferrett
If that's what gets you through the.... My metaphors are really starting to blow lately.
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Post by: Gornall
What was the point of that speech if it wasn't a "You're now lynched" speech?
OOC:: I'm just going off experience from Game 1 where a miscount led to someone trying to self-lynch, something a stealer wouldn't ever do. However, he didn't self lynch, so that provided a solid clue that he was in fact innocent.
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Post by: Mekboy
I'm voting for LotG as he's still not answering questions, he's using scummy logic and tbh I've had enough of this Space Marine thing too.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@Gornall: So all we have to do to prove our innocence is try to kill ourselves?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
I'm still voting for the_ferret.
The Imperium is NO PLACE for rushed poetic violence.
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Post by: Fifty
I am now confident I should vote for the_ferret or Dark Lord Seanron. I am not certain they are genestealers, but they are seem a lot more suspicious than most people.
We still have time to change our votes, so I don't want to put the_ferret any closer to hammer dropping range just yet, though I may drop the hammer myself as we get closer to the end of the day. For now, I unvote ginger_nid_dude (who I still do not trust either) and vote Dark Lord Seanron.
If Lord-Loss and Emperor's Faithful are both genestealers, it seems unlikely they would vote together, which makes me suspect them less, unless it is a really good ruse. I am starting to trust them a little though.
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Post by: RustyKnight
I'm still voting for the_ferret, as he's a threat to our ability to not drop the hammer. Who knows what his next "experiment" will entail.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@Fifty: Thanks. I think...
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Post by: Lord-Loss
You really shouldnt trust anyone, there are some I am less suspicous of then others. But I generally dont trust any of you
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Ouch.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:"Yes, yes I do think a ghost shadow is a mercenary.You are on this expedition with us, and we are all mercenaries. Therefore I would think that you are a mercenary, if you were indeed part of this,'Ghost shadows,"chapter of space marines, wouldn't you be on this planet in force? I know that the astrates is powerful, but surely one marine isn't going to be able to save us all, also aren't you only a scout, which would make you even less powerful? They sure didn't help me and my men on Havcrom 3...but I'd rather not get into that. I still find your claims silly, and in all honesty I don't believe it one bit."
Mercenaries, okay, yes, but why would the shadow ghosts waste there members to save you? Let's see here, 70 members of the shadow ghosts, I believe 45 are not on Hackarr. But, we are picky, and half of our members are warp-benders. Oh, and all of our members have killed whole chaos hives.
I am not voteing because, at this point, it would be a waste of an vote.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
OOC:LoG, you do see your story is incredibly childish and silly?
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Post by: Thor665
OOC - just as a general note, the fluff aspect of the game is what it is and players are certainly allowed to create whatever persona they deem to within the fluff. If you find a given player's fluff stance unpalatable you just may not wish to discuss their fluff aspect with them.
(I do advocate lynching anyone who claims to be The Emperor reborn, a female Space Marine, or a Tyranid of any type, but these are just suggestions)
And, as usual, as long as I'm here;
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
2 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy Vulkan_He'stan)
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron )
5 - the_ferrett (Gornall Drk_O Rusty Knight n0t_u ginger_nid_dude)
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
3 - Dark Lord Seanron ( Lord-Loss Emperor's Faithful Fifty)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: BrotherStynier Deff Dread red Edition the_ferrett lord of the ghosts
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
Edit: Also, Dark lord Seanron has been prodded for being away for around 48 hours now. Everyone else has been most awesome and didn't need a prod (thanks!).
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Post by: the_ferrett
Screw it, nothing I say will change anything. Voting for myself out of hopelessness is also now out so... vote Dark Lord Senron because I can.
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Post by: Gornall
If you're truly a citizen, put out any information you might have, such as people you suspect and why. And I wouldn't go so far as to say your lynch is even immenient yet. We've got days left before the deadline. Don't give up and keep talking.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Actually for several hours now I've been trying to prove to you Gornall that I'm not stealer quality. Who do I suspect? Well current my biggest gut feeling is for someone not currently voting for me. Seeing as the tendancy for people to retalitory vote.... would you mind if I didn't say who?
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Post by: Gornall
Okay.... then why did you give that speech when you dropped a vote on Dark_O?
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Post by: the_ferrett
Because said vote without the ho-hah is the act of a scalpel. I only act with sledgehammers. Sometimes a smaller sledgehammer, but why be subtle?
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
@LotG:"Is it not the duty of your chapter to protect the good citizens of the emperor? Surely it goes hand in hand with your scourging of mutants and heretics?"
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
(I do advocate lynching anyone who claims to be The Emperor reborn, a female Space Marine, or a Tyranid of any type, but these are just suggestions)
>_< Is this a possible clue from the gamemaster?
@everyone who is voting for the_ferret: I have to say I'm not entirely sure why the_ferret would throw in such a blatant act if he were a genestealer. It's far too obvious.
On the other hand, it could have been a self-sacrificial act in order to draw attention to himself. After all there are three of them, so maybe he thought the opportunity to end a day early with a quick lynch was too good to miss, even if it branded him a stealer.
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Post by: SagesStone
That's what I was thinking and why my vote hasn't changed yet. If anything those who aren't voting at the moment should seem suspicious as the deadline is pretty close.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"I am not voting mainly due to the fact that my vote now would be for The_Ferrett. However, if I do vote for him he will have 6 votes against him and I would worry that the genestealers would then jump on the band wagon and lynch him. As I am not wholey sure that he is a genestealer, he might just be a bumbling citizen whom worded something wrong."
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
He worded a whole attempted hammer drop wrong?
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Post by: the_ferrett
Isn't my goal, any way you slice it, to survive myself? I'm the only one who knows for certain what I am, and dying doesn't help me any way you slice it. Therefore being labelled a stealer is the thing I want the least. Cause I'm not.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"I do agree that was most strange however, I meant the things after that. He is seemingly speaking in strange little riddles. I just don't want to lynch a citizen, perhaps it is inevitable, however, I do not want his blood on my hands!"
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
the_ferrett wrote:Isn't my goal, any way you slice it, to survive myself? I'm the only one who knows for certain what I am, and dying doesn't help me any way you slice it. Therefore being labelled a stealer is the thing I want the least. Cause I'm not.
It is ultimately the team you want to win. You yourself are irrelevant. Ussualy one may feel that he can only help the team if he's alive, and that's right to some extent. However, with genestealers it's different. A genestealer team knows who is who (basically) and thier strategy could very easily entail the sacrifice of one of thier team member in order to further their goals.
Look at it this way, if you had indeed offed Drk_O like it seemed you intended, then we would be short one Pro-Town citizen (assuming he's not a stealer) when we went into the night phase AND we would have had almost no dialouge to use as evidence. The genestealers strike at night. On day two you would likely gotten a swift lynching, meaning that another day would have gone by without much talking. Then the genestealers strike again.
So on Day 3 we now have 3 Pro-Town dead and 1 Genestealer dead (assuming that you are indeed a stealer). AND there's still not much in the way of previous evidence to go on. This is exactly the kind of scenario a genestealer would want.
I am inclined to land another vote on you, but Deff Dread is right that it may lead to a quick lynch by stealers. If you do nothing to exonerate yourself then I may throw in my vote closer to the deadline.
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:"I do agree that was most strange however, I meant the things after that. He is seemingly speaking in strange little riddles. I just don't want to lynch a citizen, perhaps it is inevitable, however, I do not want his blood on my hands!"
Your reluctance to risk the death of an innocent is honourable. Unfortunately, honour and innocence means little in this god-forsaken jungle.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Or does it, in times like this when we lose our compassion for the innocent or our own honour we become just as bad as the genestealers, if not worse then them. They kill because of instinct and an uncontrollable need to do as such, I will not stoop so low."
OOC: Yes I know that sounded preachy.
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Post by: the_ferrett
For firetrucks sake! What the heck can I say to prove to you? What can I do!?!
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
You could explain exactly what the feth you were thinking... @Deff Dread: Preachy indeed.
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Post by: the_ferrett
I tried! I failed! I don't think I'll be voting again after that.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Try again. What was your goal in attempting to drop the hammer? Try to be literate...this time.
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Post by: the_ferrett
I knew there was no hope of Drk_O being destroyed, especially as at least two of the 'hold offers' were alert (online) and so I thought I could try to play mind games with you and Lord Loss because I found myself agreeing with you both mentally too much. I'm not going to mindless drone without knowing who I'm following. If Drk_O that would have been a shame, but I had to bluff up my moment else I would have looked like a sneaky b-stard trying to slip an execute through on the sly.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Well, if my times up, my times up. I'll be laughing my hairy arse off next to the Emperor at you lot if it's my time to go.
As for our so-called 'Astartes pretty boy' *spits contemptuously* don't give me your gack! If you are a Spehss Mareeeen, then what you doing here? surely you can just smell the genestealers? Or is that not an option cause your 'nose burned off in the warp?' I can see why I'm soooo suspicios next to you. We nosed folk are always turning out be horrific aliens! I'm gonna bear no grudge against any of ya's if I do go though, cause of your yammering, just shows how stupid a species we are...
My vote is unchanged (again), Dear Emperor, I'm quite clearly bandwagon jumping by not changing my vote...how foolish, I should just run around accusing everyone like a drunken majistrate cause apparently that's how it is meant to be done. Suck it up and drop it off dregs! I've made my peace with the big man, and it'll be peace and quiet at least if ya do lynch me.
But what if I'm not an alien, then you's making a big mistake here! I still find Dark_O suspicious from before, and yeah, admittedly LOTG is seeming quite barmy now, but I'm not gonna jump around 'just to secure a lynch', cause I ain't no stinking genestealer, you got that?
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Post by: SagesStone
OOC: But, you're not in danger of being lynched if the deadline hits at the moment DLS.
the_ferrett wrote:For firetrucks sake! What the heck can I say to prove to you? What can I do!?!
Well nothing for me really, there just has to be someone else who seems more likely to be a traitor.
DLS wrote:I'm gonna bear no grudge against any of ya's if I do go cause of your yammering, just shows how stupid a species we are...
This reminded me of the Ork quote about the failings of humanity
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Bit touchy about being accused are we princess?" I say smiling at Seanron.
OOC: Sorry to come off as a bit of an arse.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Thor665 wrote:(I do advocate lynching anyone who claims to be The Emperor reborn, a female Space Marine, or a Tyranid of any type, but these are just suggestions)
( OOC: I'll keep my Femmine reborn Emperor of Tyranids back story to my self then  )
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:
( OOC: I'll keep my Femmine reborn Emperor of Tyranids back story to my self then  )
good idea
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Post by: Gornall
If I drop my vote on you, Ferret, will you explain who you think is guilty and why?
I don't want us to get too static in our thinking. I still find DLS and Ferret to be the most suspicious, but while we have time we should explore other alternatives.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
hey thor which one of these are we doing or cant you tell us
===================ROLE PRESENCE==================================
The allocation of roles will be random, as will the possibility of what roles are likely to appear. One of the four below scenarios will be randomly chosen prior to the start of the game;
* 1 Genestealer, 1 Genestealer Magus, 1 Inquisitor, 1 Imperium Sanctioned Psyker, 5 Imperial Citizens.
* 1 Genestealer, 1 Genestealer Magus, 7 Imperial Citizens.
* 2 Genestealers, 1 Inquisitor, 6 Imperial Citizens.
* 2 Genestealers, 1 Imperium Sanctioned Psyker, 6 Imperial Citizens.
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Post by: Thor665
You are doing one of those four options with the inclusion of an additional regular Genestealer and the inclusion of either an Imperial Assassin or a Night Lord's Aspirant.
I won't inform you which specific build however.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
so theres 3 or 4 anti town to hunt down
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Post by: Thor665
Correct.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@DLS: Please reiterate why you find Drk_O so suspicious. Looking back I find it quite foolish that I voted for Drk_O simply becuase he wouldn't let a joke die.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I just read through the entire thread (again). I can say there two people sitting on the side line, those people are BrotherStynier and Mekboy. They have contributed little which makes them suspicous. One of the them could be a genestealer who is waiting for a chance to strike.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Fair point. A genestealer would want to stay out of the limelight (I'm sure I've said this) and not get stuck into any conversation. Of course one, or both, of them could just be inactive sods. This is why I asked everyone to state who/why or why they were not voting at the moment. Hopefully you can draw out some more conversation.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
OOC: My home made chapter has many backstories, I'm trying to tell the best backstory.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Which involves a Juvenille Zombie Marine that hangs out with Guardsmen in the middle of a Jungle Expedition?
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Post by: RustyKnight
Emperors Faithful wrote:Which involves a Juvenille Zombie Marine that hangs out with Guardsmen in the middle of a Jungle Expedition?
( OOC: Don't forget that half of them are psykers and that each has taken out an entire hive city.)
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
RustyKnight wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:Which involves a Juvenille Zombie Marine that hangs out with Guardsmen in the middle of a Jungle Expedition?
( OOC: Don't forget that half of them are psykers and that each has taken out an entire hive city.) Ah yes, can't forget the mind reading/mass destruction...
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Post by: the_ferrett
Gornall: You drop your vote and I'll tell you who my gut says. Ironically the why is fairly much the same as the rest of you, lack of posts, when they do post its mainly trying to make unrest by fuelling the common vote, that kind of thing.
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Post by: Gornall
Unvote: the_Ferret
Spill it.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
This should be interesting...
(I'd also like to know why you were so desperate for Gornall to drop his vote. What was stopping you from telling us previously? Are you trying to use your cryptology as a bargaining chip?)
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Emperors Faithful wrote:RustyKnight wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:Which involves a Juvenille Zombie Marine that hangs out with Guardsmen in the middle of a Jungle Expedition?
( OOC: Don't forget that half of them are psykers and that each has taken out an entire hive city.)
Ah yes, can't forget the mind reading/mass destruction...
yep.  (I laugh at my retardness)
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Post by: the_ferrett
Mekboy. I held off because now that I've said him, he'll join the voting against me club and that brings me closer to the elimination. Why was said in my previous post.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
But yet again you do not even offer an explanation. Why Mekboy?
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Post by: the_ferrett
Previous post to the accusation had an explanation!
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
The explanation? What accusation? Your accusation? Or Mekboys? Talk straight dammit or I'm voting for you...
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"That is indeed a rather general accusation, you claim that Mekboy's infrequent posts and his,"fuelling," of the common vote are what made you suspicious of him. While he has not posted so frequently, he has not fuelled the general vote as far as I can see(his current vote is for LotG IIRC). I think you are now just trying to get people to unvote you and cast suspicion from yourself. I do agree it is most strange when someone does not add overly much to the conversation, however I don't feel it is something to lynch them over."
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Post by: the_ferrett
You asked for my gut feelings. Its all about the gut. As for getting people to unvote me... that's a subconcious want, yes.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
This is my final vote.... Vote ark Lord Seanron.
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Post by: Gornall
The_Ferret: It's generally a good idea to be as clear as possible with your posts, reiterating why you think someone is suspicious. It slows things down if people have to read back through the previous pages of conversation to find your rationale and reasons.
Having said that, I find part of Mekboy's behavior suspicious. At the beginning of the day, he said Dark_O was suspicious because he had placed a vote on someone who alreayd had a vote against them (early RVS) and then immediately put a vote on Dark_O who already had 4 against him. When questioned about it, he immediately dropped his vote. I thought that seemed a little bandwagonish and showed a desire to try and please. I will have to look over the rest of the pages to see if there was anything else I missed.
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Post by: Thor665
Lord-Loss wrote:This is my final vote....Vote: Dark Lord Seanron.
For the record - I already had you voting Dark Lord Seanron. I accepted the above to be an Unvote DLS -> Vote DLS action. This makes a difference with who will be lynched based upon the tie vote below so this is me noting it so anyone tracking my bookkeeping understands why things are as they are.
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
2 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy Vulkan_He'stan)
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron )
4 - the_ferrett (Drk_O Rusty Knight n0t_u ginger_nid_dude)
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
4 - Dark Lord Seanron ( Emperor's Faithful Fifty the_ferrett Lord-Loss)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: BrotherStynier Deff Dread red Edition lord of the ghosts Gornall
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
So, why are you being so cryptic in your reasonings and making us track back though the vox log? Why not reiterate your pouint when you voice your suspicions?
OOC: Mekboy might not be posting due to large amounts of school work. I know him IRL so am not suggesting I know about his in character role
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I didnt see that I was voting for him.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
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Post by: Mekboy
I'm still here.
@ Vulkan: Lolwut?
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
lord loss "see i was voting"
face palm then stating you should vote tennant
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Post by: Mekboy
It was more at the 'you know you can trust me', combined with the 'vote tennant' one.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
you know you can trust david tennant
btw do you like the pic in my sig made it my self
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Good sig.
I tire of the_ferrets half-baked excuses and prattling. He has almost no defence of his actions whatsoever, apart from some vauge references to some sort of experiment. Which he STILL did not deign to tell us in detail the purpose off.
His vote for Mekboy claiming that it was on his 'Gut feeling' is a sorry explanation indeed. It sounds like the desperate pleas of someone caught with thier hand in the cookie (lynching) jar. The possibility of a DLS and the_ferret team up does strike me as entirely pluasible. Both were apparently trying to get a quick lynch over Drk_O. I would still like to hear more from DLS, but he is not the most suspicious at the moment.
Vote: the_ferret
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
whoo only five days more of the feretts nonsense should i just add my vote to his growing pile of people hating him
by my count he's on five from you
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Yes, it will be interesting (funny) to see what he does under this growing pressure. (And how others react.) BTW, I strongly suspect that the Genestealers may be voting for each other in order to draw attention away from themselves. So if the_ferret proves to be a stealer, those who voted for him should still be suspect. On the same note, the_ferret voting for DLS is interesting, but altogether means little. (other than maybe him trying to rat out his mates to get an extra day?  )
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
ok should be fun wathching him squirm
vote: the_ferrett
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron )
6 - the_ferrett (Drk_O Rusty Knight n0t_u ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful Vulkan_He'stan)
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
3 - Dark Lord Seanron (Fifty the_ferrett Lord-Loss )
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: BrotherStynier Deff Dread red Edition lord of the ghosts Gornall
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
Edit: ninja-ed by Vulkan - now fixed
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
ohh thor did you miss out my last post i think youve been
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Post by: Thor665
I will note that via timestamp my edit ninja'd your notice of ninja-ing.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
lolwut?
( BTW...I don't get it...  )
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Post by: RustyKnight
Emperors Faithful wrote:lolwut?
( BTW...I don't get it...  )
( OOC:Thor posted a vote count right after another vote, so he had to edit the new vote in. Someone went to point out the ninja vote, but Thor's edit in turn ninja'd the ninja notice.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
No, I mean I don't get the picture. Who ninja'd who?
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
Thor ninja'd Vulkans ninja
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Emperors Faithful wrote:Good sig.
I tire of the_ferrets half-baked excuses and prattling. He has almost no defence of his actions whatsoever, apart from some vauge references to some sort of experiment. Which he STILL did not deign to tell us in detail the purpose off.
His vote for Mekboy claiming that it was on his 'Gut feeling' is a sorry explanation indeed. It sounds like the desperate pleas of someone caught with thier hand in the cookie (lynching) jar. The possibility of a DLS and the_ferret team up does strike me as entirely pluasible. Both were apparently trying to get a quick lynch over Drk_O. I would still like to hear more from DLS, but he is not the most suspicious at the moment.
Vote: the_ferret
Emperors Faithful, I'm starting to find you almost as suspicious as the_ferret. "Half-baked excuses" are a form of defense. So therefore, he does have a defense. Acceptance =/= Nothing.
His vote for Mekboy was explained
the_ferrett wrote:Mekboy. I held off because now that I've said him, he'll join the voting against me club and that brings me closer to the elimination. Why was said in my previous post.
the_ferrett's previous post wrote:Gornall: You drop your vote and I'll tell you who my gut says. Ironically the why is fairly much the same as the rest of you, lack of posts, when they do post its mainly trying to make unrest by fuelling the common vote, that kind of thing.
While I am 100% sure that the_ferret is a Genestealer, please use logic in your arguments. It's usually more convincing.
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Post by: the_ferrett
C'est la vie. C'est la freaking vie.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Such is life indeed. Sadly I think your hour draws near my good man."
OOC:Filler post again.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
337448 seconds remain of this day.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
"Have you all learned what it is you were hoping to learn from this? The day draws closer to an end." I say as I look to the sky, gesturing towards the slowly setting sun looming over the tree tops.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
325046 seconds to go
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:
His vote for Mekboy was explained
the_ferrett wrote:Mekboy. I held off because now that I've said him, he'll join the voting against me club and that brings me closer to the elimination. Why was said in my previous post.
the_ferrett's previous post wrote:Gornall: You drop your vote and I'll tell you who my gut says. Ironically the why is fairly much the same as the rest of you, lack of posts, when they do post its mainly trying to make unrest by fuelling the common vote, that kind of thing.
While I am 100% sure that the_ferret is a Genestealer, please use logic in your arguments. It's usually more convincing.
How is this an explanation?
Last I heard, a 'gut feeling' would only hold up in an Imperial Court if that gut belonged to an inquisitor. And the_ferret is DEFINITELY not an inquisitor, or at least can't have had the opportunity to check anyone out yet.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Genestealers AND NINJA's? This day goes from bad to worse to Fething Unbelievable.
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Post by: Gornall
Not_U... you've been quiet. What do you have to say about all of this? Also, Deff Dread, you do a lot of filler posts. Do you have any observations that you would like to share?
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Post by: SagesStone
Yeah I've been pretty quiet because nothing has really happened to make me think up some new questions.
DLS wrote:Genestealers AND NINJA's? This day goes from bad to worse to Fething Unbelievable.
It's not unbelievable until the zombie pirate ghosts show up.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"My reason for filler posts is because, most of the questions I wanted asked and answered have been done as such before I could speak up about them. Also my suspicions are much the same as quite a few in the group, most are based around The_Ferret and his hammer drop speech accompained by his cryptic answers to questions. DLS is also a person of interest because of comments he has made. I also find LotG suspicious as his tale of being a teenage-super psyker-zombie-space marine seems far fetched. Surely one with such phsycic powers would have read our minds and would have picked out the genestealers among us by now?"
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Post by: Lord-Loss
DLS is dangerous. Trying to get someone lynched in the begining of the day and with very little evidence, thats very 'stealer like' if ask me. Def Dread never use a fluff story as evidence....never do it.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
OOC: Your most likely right, I'm pretty new to this, so just really trying to find my footing on what I can use as evidence and what I can't.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Bet you all can't get to 8 before day ends.....
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Post by: Gornall
Betcha we could Vote: The Ferret...
UNvote: The Ferret
Being a drama norn queen doesn't help us. Why do you think you shouldn't be lynched?
Discussion has stalled. Too many people are sitting on the sidelines watching or simply putting in filler posts. Fifty and GND... what are you thinking right now? Who do you find to be suspicious and why?
We'll see if we can get some more discussion going first. I still think you're the most suspicious so far, but there are still too many out there that I haven't been able to read yet.
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Post by: the_ferrett
I have no reason for. I have no reason for my gut. I am reasonless.
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Post by: Gornall
Okay... start with why you are voting for DLS when you keep stating your suspicion for Mekboy.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Because statistically its impossible to turn 3 people to not vote for me, but for 2.... that's more likely.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
::Facepalm::
Votes are pilling up on The_Ferret again, someone people should really unvote.
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Post by: Fifty
the_ferret - don't be so arrogant as to assume you can't get voted for. I am very suspicious of you too. It would not take much for me to vote for you.
I am still voting for Dark Lord Seanron at the moment, as he is massively suspicious too. He has also not been saying much recently.
When it comes to Lord of Ghosts, I almost feel that he may be a genestealer trying to look so foolish that he could not possibly be a genestealer. There is also the fact that if he did turn out to be a real cit, at least if we lost him, we wouldn't be losing anyone who is likely to contribute much to the discussions.
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Post by: Fifty
((ooc going to be a super-busy weekend for me, and possibly Monday too. I may be able to post, may not, but I am not vanishing.))
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@Fifty: Ouch.
@Lord Loss: Conversation has stalled, I really wouldn't mind a lynch on the_ferret any time now. This day has been going on for a while. Of course, more discussion is always useful.
@Gornall: You are prompting a lot of people to speak up, but I would also like to hear your thoughts.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
the_ferrett wrote:Bet you all can't get to 8 before day ends.....
I can foul xenos!!
the_ferrett
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Post by: Lord-Loss
*sigh*
Looks like day 1 is over.
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Post by: RustyKnight
Lord-Loss wrote:*sigh*
Looks like day 1 is over.
Not quite. That puts him at seven votes. At worst, we're about to kill a foolish threat. At best we're about to kill a foolish genestealer. Both seem to be wins in my book  . Anywho, I think discussion has pretty much stagnated at this point, and there's only three days left.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
LotG do you have a reason for your vote, or are you just voting randomly, thats very scummy to me.
My reasons for voting for DLS are simple, he earlier in the game tried and got someone lynched because of a joke and with very little evidence. Someone who pushs early lynchs is very dangerous, scummy behavior all around.
RustyKnight, where do you stand?
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Post by: Gornall
As I've stated before, I find Ferret and DLS to be the most suspicious, followed by Mekboy based on their votes. Ferret and DLS wanted to drop hammers and Mekboy was a little too eager to please.
The quiet ones are also slightly bothersome, as we don't know whether they're staying in the shadows out of fear or because they have a malicious purpose in mind.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
The_Ferret is no real threat, but DLS could push a lynch, he's actions are scummy and he seems very much like a genestealer who slipped up.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Lord-Loss wrote:LotG do you have a reason for your vote, or are you just voting randomly, thats very scummy to me.
My reasons for voting for DLS are simple, he earlier in the game tried and got someone lynched because of a joke and with very little evidence. Someone who pushs early lynchs is very dangerous, scummy behavior all around.
RustyKnight, where do you stand?
I belive that the ferrett is what you all say he is.
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Post by: RustyKnight
I agree with you on DLS, but disagree with you about The_ferret.
the_ferret tried to rush a lynch on someone and could do so again. He also provides a smokescreen of sorts for potential scum; they can try to slip by in the comotion he causes. It is quite possible in my mind that he could just be a very, very bad genestealer. Even if he isn't a genestealer, do we want him on our team? He's taken to trading crappy info and gut-feelings to try and stave off his own lynch. A true pro-town player would share their info, not save it to save themselves.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
The_Ferret hasnt made any claim of being anything but a imperial citizen!
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Maybe he is a threat...sort of. But DLS pushed early lynchs, tryed lynching without evidence. Do we really want that on our team? Directed at RustyKnight
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Post by: Gornall
Frankly, I'm up for either one. TBH, Ferret has given me a few pro-town vibes, but I'm not sure if I'm just reading it wrong.
OOC:: DLS is a crafty player... he completely burned me on the last one.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Exactly my point, we know that DLS is crafty and the "Lets kill Drk_Oblit now!" thing was probally a slip up. I see him more as a threat then The_Ferret.
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Post by: RustyKnight
My biggest fear of switching targets to Dark Lord at this point would be stagnating in between and having the deadline choose for us. If we end up getting caught in the middle of switching votes from the_ferret to DLS, the Genestealers could jump onto the party they like least.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
RustyKnight wrote:My biggest fear of switching targets to Dark Lord at this point would be stagnating in between and having the deadline choose for us. If we end up getting caught in the middle of switching votes from the_ferret to DLS, the Genestealers could jump onto the party they like least.
They will ninja us.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Remeber the one with the most votes gets lynched. GRAMMAR FAIL EDIT!
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
Lord-Loss wrote:Remeber the one with the most votes gets lynched.
GRAMMAR FAIL EDIT!
If the ferrett is a genestealer, as soon as we change votes to DLS, he and his gene-ninjas will ninja the gak out of one of us.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I dont get what you mean 'ninja the gak outa us'?
Are you saying that if we want to switch our votes to DLS and the_ferret is a genestealer, then he and his buddies will pile votes on DLS to end the day?
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Post by: the_ferrett
For the emporer I will save your brains the effort of working me out.
Vote: The_Ferrett
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Post by: Gornall
OOC: That's never a good thing to do. Ever. Oh well.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
The_Ferret: That vote didnt work...dont be idiot. If you dont want to play then quit, but please dont mess the game up:/
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Post by: the_ferrett
OOC: Do people just forget what you say the next moment you open your mouth or something?
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Post by: the_ferrett
OOC: As for idiots and messing up the game.... *glare*
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Post by: the_ferrett
Why self vote? The resoning has stopped? All is being pushed around is how guilty I am and how much you want me gone. Noone's going to slip up and people seem to forget two posts previous these days. So I'm enabling this to keep fresh.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
So the the_ferret is L-1?
RustyKnight and Gornall, I suggest you unvote the_ferret for *now* so it stops someone from ending day 1 sooner rather then later.
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Post by: Gornall
I'm not voting for him at the moment.
I agree that discussion has stalled. But voting for yourself does nothing.
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Post by: the_ferrett
OOC: Cept last decent discussion was page 16
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Post by: Lord-Loss
Its nearing the end of the day, everything has been said. I think we need to decide soon, before the deadline comes. :s
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Post by: the_ferrett
That's what I said!
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Post by: Gornall
Then start some. If it helps, I'll even vote for DLS. I'm bending over backwards to try and help you just on the off chance you might be innocent. (OOC:: what I tried to do with DarkO and Game 1.)
If you're innocent, don't give up. Just start putting together some arguments of why you feel so and so is a more likely suspect.
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Post by: the_ferrett
I'm a historian and scientist. All this 'proof' that has been flying around hasn't been proof. Noone knows anything. That said, everyone who's ever said that I may be innocent has actually only lasted one post from someone else before changing their minds. For smoke screens that is a tad worrying.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
I think that DLS could be a safe bet for now, most reasoning presented seems solid enough, his lust for blood, the eagerness to kill off Drk_O, something I am not entirely innocent of I was after all one of the few that removed my vote for him last.
VOTE: DLS
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron )
7 - the_ferrett (Drk_O Rusty Knight n0t_u ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful Vulkan_He'stan lord of the ghosts )
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
5 - Dark Lord Seanron (Fifty the_ferrett Lord-Loss Gornall BrotherStynier )
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: Deff Dread red Edition
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
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Post by: RustyKnight
I'm switching my vote to DLS, primarily because even I have problems thinking a Genestealer would try to kill themselves.
Vote: Dark Lord Seanron
That's put both DLS and ferret at L-2
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Vote: DLS
I have overlooked Dark Lord Seanron for too long.
Remember how I said
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:I'm 99.9% sure the_ferrett is a Genestealer, I will not change my vote until I am 99.91% sure that someone else is.
I'm 99.9 2% sure DLS is a Genestealer, for some of the reaons mentioned, but mostly because he won't listen to reason or logic.
However, should I wake up tomorrow, I shall be voting for the_ferret again.
Emperors Faithful wrote:Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:
His vote for Mekboy was explained
the_ferrett wrote:Mekboy. I held off because now that I've said him, he'll join the voting against me club and that brings me closer to the elimination. Why was said in my previous post.
the_ferrett's previous post wrote:Gornall: You drop your vote and I'll tell you who my gut says. Ironically the why is fairly much the same as the rest of you, lack of posts, when they do post its mainly trying to make unrest by fuelling the common vote, that kind of thing.
While I am 100% sure that the_ferret is a Genestealer, please use logic in your arguments. It's usually more convincing.
How is this an explanation?
Last I heard, a 'gut feeling' would only hold up in an Imperial Court if that gut belonged to an inquisitor. And the_ferret is DEFINITELY not an inquisitor, or at least can't have had the opportunity to check anyone out yet.
Last I heard, we weren't in an Imperial Court. So in that respect your logic is misplaced. I put forth the idea that bad explanations =/= no explanations.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
There's really no need to to rush over to the Dark Lord Searon bandwagon. The last thing we need is a split vote between DLS and the_ferret, that will just lead to confusion. I still think the_ferret is a solid lead and worthy of a lynching.
Even if we're wrong, well, there's always tommorow after all...
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@Drk_O: Look at the bold. I would argue that bad excuses are possibly worse than no excuses, becuase they are a sign of someone striving to come up with a justification that doesn't exist. If there was no excuse, that could be becuase they had a perfectly good reason for doing what they did but chose to keep it to themselves.
I honestly think that the_ferret expected a quick lynch on Drk_O and did not think he would have to justify his actions until Day 2. When it became obvious that he had made a mistake, he rambled on about an experiment and his gut feelings. Neither of which seemed to have helped the Pro-Town side in any way.
Emperors Faithful wrote:Good sig.
I tire of the_ferrets half-baked excuses and prattling. He has almost no defence of his actions whatsoever, apart from some vauge references to some sort of experiment. Which he STILL did not deign to tell us in detail the purpose off.
His vote for Mekboy claiming that it was on his 'Gut feeling' is a sorry explanation indeed. It sounds like the desperate pleas of someone caught with thier hand in the cookie (lynching) jar. The possibility of a DLS and the_ferret team up does strike me as entirely pluasible. Both were apparently trying to get a quick lynch over Drk_O. I would still like to hear more from DLS, but he is not the most suspicious at the moment.
Vote: the_ferret
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Post by: the_ferrett
I defend you and I get lynched? Great loyalty plan EF.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
You defend me?
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Post by: the_ferrett
To me you have been and will always be citizens. I said that before.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Words. Sweet, sweet words that turn to bitter orange wax in my ears.
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Post by: SagesStone
Looking over the reasoning I'm going to change to DLS. But, because that would lynch him and we want the day to last a bit longer I'll just simply Unvote:Ferret, placing DLS with the majority.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
vote dark_o as he was very quick to jump on the dls bandwagon
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Post by: RustyKnight
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:vote dark_o as he was very quick to jump on the dls bandwagon
We've spent the last two pages debating DLS v. the_ferret. I don't know if I'd call that quick.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
well he'd been quiet in the shadow for a while then as soon as a few people put a vote on dls he jumps right in
I still suspect dls but dark-o seems more scummy
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
I'd like to see more of an explanation from Drk_O for his vote, simply becuase he's waited this long. 'Overlooking' someone is not quite enough of a satisfactory excuse. That said, we have been discussing the possibilty of one or both of these characters being genestealers for the past couple of pages.
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
well we have 3 or 4 genestealers at the moment im going with a
dark-o dls and the ferret as them
but im willing to change my oppinion
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Post by: Fifty
Bearing in mind that if the_ferret is a stealer, he still "wins" if his foul kindred survived, he may have voted for himself to throw us off the scent, not realising that once we lynch him, we'll know if he was a true cit or foul xenos scum by rifling through his belongings and making a judgement.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Ach well, guess this is the price i ay for sticking to my guns and nt bandwagon jumping on the "get the _ferret" witch hunt. I know you's will regret it, cuse I know I'm no stealer, just someone who took someones peculiar behaviour to heart and stuck with it as opposed to 'trying to secure a lynch'
How exactly can we 'overlook' people in this situation. I am convinced,CONVINCED that dark_O is a 'stealer, and the sweep in votes in my direction cause I am stll voting him (peculiar) as opposed to scoring easy lynchs by copying others votes has simply ushered in a chance for him to get me.
Again,I'm pointing at Dark_O,and if you lynch me then I urge you to learn from such a stupid mistake and get Dark_O.
I ain't the stealer...he is!
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Or perhaps it is that you are a crafty stealer whom learned from his past mistake of jumping on the bandwagon and is now keeping his vote to turn suspicion from himself. I must say it is strange that you shed your blood thirsty ways so quickly."
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:"Or perhaps it is that you are a crafty stealer whom learned from his past mistake of jumping on the bandwagon and is now keeping his vote to turn suspicion from himself. I must say it is strange that you shed your blood thirsty ways so quickly."
I fail to see how I have shed anything, I've maintained my vote, and I still urge you all to vote the same. If that makes me bloodthirsty then so be it. But you are genuinely making a mistake with suspecting me!
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
i am starting to trust dls but hes still in my suspect list
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Seanron, whom do you suspect besides Drk_O and for what reasons?"
OOC: Just trying to keep conversation alive, if you have already answered the above question please just direct me toward the page on which you did so.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Well...apart from Dark_O...
The_ferret seems suspect, just due to his lack of logic and making sense. I find his actions to be peculiar, but not the sme way I find Dark_O suspicious.
Our resident 'space marine' is a bit peculiarif you ask me too.
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
2 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron Vulkan_He'stan )
3 - the_ferrett ( ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful lord of the ghosts )
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
7 - Dark Lord Seanron (Fifty the_ferrett Lord-Loss Gornall BrotherStynier Rusty Knight Drk_O )
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: Deff Dread red Edition n0t_u
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - Dark Lord Seanron would be lynched
Deadline countdown
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
I'm very surprised that the votes have swung the other way so quickly.
@DLS & Vulkan: I would like to hear exactly what you find so suspicious about Drk_O. Apart from the long-lived man-bear-pig theory, there really is not that much to go on. TBH we (me included) made a relative mountain over a molehill.
In defence of DLS, he was not the only one to vote for Drk_O (I myself was up there). It was only his logic and scummy posting behind that particular vote that made us puase.
Right now it appears that the_ferret is FAR more suspicious, becuase unlike DLS, the_ferret's vote on Drk_O was both unwarranted AND an attempt to drop the hammer.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Admittedly, Dark_O has been quet of late. And that has probably made folk forget (as being quet and avoiding the limelight seem to exonorate you from blame)
I felt his behaviour, followed by his sudden silence, compounded by his sudden leaping onto the "vote DLS" bandwagon quite shocking and worthy of my suspicion.
I probably ws quite quick to vote him at first, but I feel more and more secure in my choice as time goes by.
If I do go in ths lynch, I'm only happy it will possibly shine a light on the actual culprits (Dark_O included)
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
I to find it suspicious that Drk_O waited this long and is now 'getting back at you'. Although this could just as easily be an Imperial Citizen having a bit of revenge against what he perceives to be a personal attack. After all, if several people suddenly switched thier votes to me, I would be very suspicious of them.
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Post by: RustyKnight
I'm having problems seeing Drk_O's vote as being that scummy with his vote; he did state his reasons (at least more than the bloodthirsty DLS or the random ferret), and I don't see why he would be getting back at you.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Vote: DLS
I have overlooked Dark Lord Seanron for too long.
Remember how I said
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:I'm 99.9% sure the_ferrett is a Genestealer, I will not change my vote until I am 99.91% sure that someone else is.
I'm 99.9 2% sure DLS is a Genestealer, for some of the reaons mentioned, but mostly because he won't listen to reason or logic.
That's not exactly a reason. That's just throwing a statistic out there as an excuse to jump on the DLS bandwagon. This has upgraded him to scummy status. >_<
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
I maintain my vote against the ferret as I am sure he wouldn't actually have self lynched, and saying that he would was a gamble on his part to move votes to DLS for these reasons, I am now convinced beyond all doubt that the ferret is a stealer
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Post by: Gornall
Unvote DLS
Dialing it down a notch. I'm pretty suprised at how fast votes have swung and when I get more of a chance, I want to see what people are following the pack too much.
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Post by: Fifty
DLS is currently down to 6. When it gets closer to lynch time, I will revote for either ferret or DLS, but for now, Unvote Dark Lord Seanron. That brings him down to 5.
I've decided to keep the other two or three people I am suspicious of quiet until after the next vote, as I won't be voting for them this time, and if they do turn out to be 'stealers, I do not want to make myself a target.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Emperors Faithful wrote:Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:Vote: DLS
I have overlooked Dark Lord Seanron for too long.
Remember how I said
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:I'm 99.9% sure the_ferrett is a Genestealer, I will not change my vote until I am 99.91% sure that someone else is.
I'm 99.9 2% sure DLS is a Genestealer, for some of the reaons mentioned, but mostly because he won't listen to reason or logic.
That's not exactly a reason. That's just throwing a statistic out there as an excuse to jump on the DLS bandwagon. This has upgraded him to scummy status. >_<
I guess I'm sorry I agree then. I have stated my reasons. Accept or interpret them as you will.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Dark Lord Seanron wrote:Admittedly, Dark_O has been quet of late. And that has probably made folk forget (as being quet and avoiding the limelight seem to exonorate you from blame)
I felt his behaviour, followed by his sudden silence, compounded by his sudden leaping onto the "vote DLS" bandwagon quite shocking and worthy of my suspicion.
I probably ws quite quick to vote him at first, but I feel more and more secure in my choice as time goes by.
If I do go in ths lynch, I'm only happy it will possibly shine a light on the actual culprits (Dark_O included)
I beleive I explained my recent vote towards you. However, I agree with you your reasons for voting for me, now that I know them. Well, standing your ground on your vote for me anyway.
Unvote: DLS
I'll explain why I suddenly quiet, but I don't think it'll matter really. I stopped posting alot because, there was nothing to say.
Vote: the_ferret
My word is my word, so I'll stand by it.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
That leaves equal between The_Ferret and DLS!
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
2 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron Vulkan_He'stan )
4 - the_ferrett ( ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful lord of the ghosts Drk_O )
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
4 - Dark Lord Seanron ( the_ferrett Lord-Loss BrotherStynier Rusty Knight )
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: Deff Dread red Edition n0t_u Gornall Fifty
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - Dark Lord Seanron would be lynched
Deadline countdown
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Only 2761 minutes of daylight left, and it's making people jumpy.
I'd like to request that everyone remains calm, and think things through thoroughly. Making decisions without the use of logic is what the Genestealers want. If we are to stop the Genestealers, the correct application of logic is our greatest weapon.
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Post by: Gornall
Seriously... is this follow the leader or something? Once one person makes a move everyone follows.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
@Gornall: Exactly. At best they're deluded sheep-like citizens who cast thier vote at the drop of a flag, but it's more likely at least one genestealer is in their midst. After all, the fact that he's voting for other genestealers shouldn't clear them.
Personnally, I find the_ferrets attempt to self-lynch very weak. Someone earlier in this thread (can't be bothered to go back and quote it right now) said that in an earlier game someone attempted a slef-lynch in order to save time. It failed, and all but proved his innocence. I believe that the_ferret was desperately trying to re-enact this in a ploy to clear himself.
If anything, instead of clearing him this incriminates him even further.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
[edit Ninja'd by Emperors Faithful, directed at Gornall] I would have been dead long ago if that were the case. Like I said in my previous post Previous Post wrote:Only [a short time] of daylight left, and it's making people jumpy. I'd like to request that everyone remains calm, and think things through thoroughly. Making decisions without the use of logic is what the Genestealers want. If we are to stop the Genestealers, the correct application of logic is our greatest weapon.
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Post by: Gornall
Dark_O (and everyone for that matter)... spell out in clear terms why you think people are suspicious. Don't refer back to previous posts... state it so someone starting on this page could figure it out. Just because you said it before doesn't mean people remember. If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
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Post by: lord of the ghosts
what the hell... I just ninja'd myself. Sorry. Edit: whoa... I somehow posted twice, but now that 2nd post is gone.... Vote: Dark Lord something or other This will keep the ferrett alive to see if he kills anybody overnight.
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Post by: Gornall
I just tried looking back over the major transitions (Dark_O to Ferret to DLS) and I'm having a hard time pulling any patterns from it. Anyone notice anything that I missed?
The way people bounced from Ferret to DLS seems to make me wonder a bit. I'm going to go back to my original vote. Vote: The Ferret However, DLS still wins the tiebreaker.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
(Close Call) Lynching history 1) Drk_O: Initially sparked by his ravings on ManBearPig, it then gained weight with a few questionable votes from him and a few shifty answers. ( DLS is accused of egging it on). the_ferret seemingly attempts to lynch Drk_O, despite me urging no one to vote before he got a chance to explain himself. 2) Suspicion immediately flares on the_ferret. His ramblings of some sort of experiment, combined with a lack of details or willingness to co-operate, almost leads to his lynch early on. Lord Loss urges us not to be hasty so that we may get more disscusion out of it. No one is at risk of a quick lynch at the moment. A lot of discussion follows. 3) LotG has a wierd story about Teen-Zombie-Psyker-Marines, annoys a few people and a few votes are thrown at him. Not exactly the actions of a genestealer though. 4) A lot of discussion involving DLS now, Drk_O is all but forgotten. With a recap of votes and reasons we move on... 5) Votes pile onto the_ferret, who still does little to give us any reason to stop. Very nearly a lynch. 6) A huge vote swing from the_ferret to DLS. He is now very close to lynching. (Still not sure why the sudden change, but I feel that Drk_O helped  .) 7) Votes even out between the_ferret and DLS as discussion continues.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
lord of the ghosts wrote:what the hell... I just ninja'd myself. Sorry.
Edit: whoa... I somehow posted twice, but now that 2nd post is gone....
Vote: Dark Lord something or other
This will keep the ferrett alive to see if he kills anybody overnight.
This is the WORST logic I've yet to see. You think the_ferret is a genestealer, so you vote for the person you suspect less?!? So that we see if the_ferret kills anyone overnight. Which the genestealers do as a TEAM. So we won't even know that it's him.
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Post by: the_ferrett
"The ferrett gives us little proof to defend" Porquios?
How does one defend themselves when there is no proof of anything!!!
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Okay. It's pretty obvious you were attempting to drop the hammer. Frankly I can't see you worming your way out of that one. (other than going back and editing it, but you're better than that)
With my mistaken count I figured Drk_O to be Lynch-1. And I stressed that no one vote further until Drk_O explained himself. You went ahead and gave a 'hammer drop' speech, and added your vote in. It was only later that Gornall pointed out my mistake, and that Drk_O was in fact not yet lynched.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
the_ferrett wrote:I don't need to hear the cries of the innocent to know what must be done.
I don't need to hear him speak his peace, nor the rest of you.
He is who he is, and my assumption is that he is very much civilian.
I just know that the dominoes will not fall until that first one is pushed.
Let us slow it down next round, let us think it through when we have something to think through.
I apologise for this but here I am. *loads a bullet into an old gun and places it on the jungle floor*
Vote Drk_O
Quite possibly the most damning post I have seen yet.
How in Sweet Terra's name was this supposed to help the Pro-Town side?
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Post by: the_ferrett
How has what you've said supposed to help the 'pro-town' side? I haven't seen you come up with hard evidence. Conjecture, yes, suppositions, of course, evidence, no.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Evidence? How about you trying to get a quick lynch on a person who you yourself said was probably a civilian. THAT'S evidence. I'm helping the pro-town side by attempting to expose a genestealer, namely you. *point* Honestly, the evidence is right there. (Of course, I wouldn't expect YOU to agree.) Let's see what the others have to say about this, eh?
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Post by: Gornall
EF, if you want to see Ferret lynched over DLS, you'll need another vote.
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Post by: -=Scar=-
"Random Genestealer jumps out of bush" ... RAWR!
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Your enthusiasm is admirable Scar, but: Thor665 wrote:Greetings and welcome to all concerned. First off, if you are not a player in this game please Do not post in this thread! @Gornall: I realise. But I do believe my argument carries some weight. the_ferret has definitely done more to incriminate himself than DLS.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"My vote now would go to The_Ferrett, however, I feel that it would cast suspicion on me if I do so. However, all the things he has said have been most strange, his cryptic answers just compounding the fact. But I truly believe Seanron is telling the truth, so sadly, even if it cast the light of suspicion on me, I will have to say Vote: The_Ferrett"
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Gornall wrote:If it was worth saying once, it's worth repeating.
Anyway... (With Summaries) [and post count at the time I wrote this post]
n0t_u
(Backstory, name, lack of posts)
[14 posts]
Vulkan_He'stan
(Lack of posts, see the following notes)
[26 posts]
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:ok should be fun wathching him squirm
vote: the_ferrett
How the hell did we miss this?
Mekboy
(Lack of posts)
[18 posts]
lord of the ghosts
(backstory, lack of posts)
[23 posts]
BrotherStynier
[30 posts]
Deff Dread red Edition
[35 posts]
Fifty
(lack of posts)
[14 posts]
Emperor's Faithul
(Unable to accept defenses, perhaps too many posts)
[100 posts]
Rusty Knight
[23 posts]
Drk_O
(I personally find this one disturbing)
[46 posts]
the_ferrett
(Attempted to Drop the hammer on Drk_O)
ginger_nid_dude
(EXTREAME LACK OF POSTS)
[7 posts]
Lord-Loss
[60 posts]
Dark Lord Seanron
(Strong willed and determined, voted once and has stuck to it, lack of posts)
[17 posts]
Gornall
[36 posts]
I thought a post count might have helped.
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Post by: SagesStone
Try living up to your new avatar all the time
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:ok should be fun wathching him squirm
vote: the_ferrett
How the hell did we miss this?
What are you implying? We were laughing at the_ferret's desperate half-baked excuses. I ecouraged him to add a vote and increase the pressure.
Emperor's Faithul
(Unable to accept the idea of allowing the treachorous xenos scum to win, perhaps too many posts)
[100 posts]
It's called Imperial Dedication you lazy  !
Dark Lord Seanron
(Strong willed and determined, voted once and has stuck to it, lack of posts)
[17 posts]
A bit of fanboy love here?  You yourself were voting for him not too long ago. Why the complete turn around?
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Post by: SagesStone
There's no post count for the Ferret. We're chasing a ghost
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Post by: Fifty
I was going to dispute "lack of posts", but when I counted, I found it was only fifteen. On the other hand, they have been at pretty regular intervals; I just don't post several messages at once the way some people do. I also feel that I have posted meaningfully, rather than the drivel that some people have come up with, or the weak defenses that some people have put up. I've either said who and why I am voting for, and/or asked questions.
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Post by: Mekboy
Interesting about the lack of post count for the ferret. Perhaps protecting a fellow genestealer?
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:
Vulkan_He'stan
(Lack of posts, see the following notes)
[26 posts]
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:ok should be fun wathching him squirm
vote: the_ferrett
this is partly the reason im voting for him
he has time to read the post about me saying that but somehow he doesnt read the one above from EF
strange isnt it how he missed that
if hes going to misenterpret like that well I dont think we need him
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"He most likely just scanned the vox log(thread)quickly and saw that as suspicious. It indeed sounds bad when not taken with EF's instruction to put more pressure on him. Also, I agree with mekboy's above statement, it does seem strange that Drk_O left out Ferrett's post count. However I doubt it will matter much as he(Ferret) seems to be the one that is going to get lynched."
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Post by: Lord-Loss
So its either DLS or Ferret who is getting lynched, Gornal, Fifty, Deff Dread, have you made a decision?
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
2 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron Vulkan_He'stan )
5 - the_ferrett ( ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful Drk_O Deff Dread red Edition Gornall)
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
5 - Dark Lord Seanron ( the_ferrett Lord-Loss BrotherStynier Rusty Knight lord of the ghosts)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: n0t_u Fifty
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - Dark Lord Seanron would be lynched
Deadline countdown
12478
Post by: Gornall
Thor... check your vote count. I think you missed my vote of Ferret on the last page.
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Post by: Thor665
So I did - I'll edit the above post.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
I can save myself with a vote switch, but I'm going to stick to my (metaphorical) guns!
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Post by: Fifty
So whichever I vote for now, will be top of the pile when the deadlines hits, unless two people vote for the other one, or someone unvotes for the one I go for...
I have to think about this very carefully then, even though I expect things will have another twist and turn before the end.
I vote the_ferret, mainly because of the hammer drop and what I think was a bluff self-lynch attempt to make himself look innocent. I think he is a fraction more suspicious than Dark Lord Seanron.
Still 28 hours to go, and I am still not even certain of which of the two I fear the most, but we'll see...
Putting the_ferret pushes him to 6 votes, but I doubt anyone is going to lynch before the deadline now, and even if they do lynch him now it would hardly be a shock decision or a waste of lots of discussion time.
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
n0t_u wrote:Try living up to your new avatar all the time
( OOC:And failing, sorry but I hold Tennant in very high regards.)
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Your highly suspicious vote count males me think that you and the ferret are stealers.
I am most certain EF is not a stealer, less so for DLS
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
I didn't realise I didn't put the_ferretts post count in. He had roughly 56.
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
Emperor's Faithful wrote:Emperor's Faithul
(Unable to accept the idea of allowing the treachorous xenos scum to win, perhaps too many posts)
[100 posts]
It's called Imperial Dedication you lazy  !
I see what you did there.
Emperor's Faithful wrote:Dark Lord Seanron
(Strong willed and determined, voted once and has stuck to it, lack of posts)
[17 posts]
A bit of fanboy love here?  You yourself were voting for him not too long ago. Why the complete turn around?
I tried to be polite with my wording. Strong willed and determined can also mean incredibly stubborn.
My "complete turn around" was merely a swivel in the road of life. I disagreed with the reasons I was voting for DLS, so changed back to my vote for the_ferrett
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Post by: the_ferrett
(OOC: 56 just here? Niiiice. What's that, a quarter of my total posts ever?)
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
OOC: Actually, it's roughly 1/5 of your total posts ever
IC: Well, less than 20 hours left, who's making dinner?
*stomach rumbles audibly*
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Post by: RustyKnight
Vote:the_ferret
At least DLS seems willing to try and defend himself. the_ferret seems more interested in making our job more difficult (by questioning our ability to gleen evidence from our posts).
vulkan wrote:if hes going to misenterpret like that well I dont think we need him
If you don't like people doing stupid things like that, why aren't you voting for the_ferret?
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
2 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron Vulkan_He'stan )
7 - the_ferrett ( ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful Drk_O Deff Dread red Edition Gornall Fifty Rusty Knight)
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
4 - Dark Lord Seanron ( the_ferrett Lord-Loss BrotherStynier lord of the ghosts)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: n0t_u
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
10906
Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
So are we all confident that the_ferret needs to be executed? If the group is beyond the shadow of a doubt sure he is one of the genestealers then I will kill him.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Sorry, the_ferret.
You there, Elysian, restrain him. *slips on glove*
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"I fear that the Ferrett must be killed, it is indeed a sad deed but it must be done."I say as I finger nervously at the clasp of my guns holster.
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Post by: the_ferrett
Why lie?
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Why lie about what?
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Post by: the_ferrett
The fact that noone knows anything. We're completely oblivious and as you shoot me, just remember.... you didn't get it right.
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Post by: Deff Dread red Edition
"Perhaps we have nothing, but since we have no definitive test that we can use to pick out the genestealers among us, we act on the evidence that has been presented, in the form of several peoples comments and we act upon it. Your actions and answers, perhaps even your general attitude has been strange throughout the course of this entire day! Be it your hammer drop speech, cryptic answers or other factors you have become a prime suspect in most people's minds. So even if we get it wrong, at least our list is narrowed and the decision was founded on fact. So even if you are a citizen, and you happen to die you are still helping our cause. May you go with the emperor."
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
the_ferrett wrote:The fact that noone knows anything. We're completely oblivious and as you shoot me, just remember.... you didn't get it right.
Yet me voting someone despite the oblivious nature of all the votes was enough to warrant me a suspect... strange that...
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Post by: the_ferrett
Then good luck Seanron.
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
the_ferrett wrote:Then good luck Seanron.
I was actually drawing attention to the fact that you're voting me for the very reason that people are now voting for you over, and YOU'RE lamenting that fact!
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Post by: the_ferrett
I voted for you for self preservation to about half of my reasoning
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
It appears that DLS did NOT vote for the_ferret when the votes were against him becuase he may very well have realised that would have branded him as someone hanging on for dear life and throwing his vote in an effort to make sure the_ferret was lynched.
It was either a great demonstration of DLS sticking to his guns (stubborn grox  ), or a sign of a playa who sees the bigger picture. *squint suspiciously*
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
While te destruction of the ferret would mean one less xenos in this emporer forsaken jungle, we should now be wary as night draws in. The morning will reveal to us one more innocent casualy I fear.
Also, EF, why the suspicous squint? Only genestealers squint
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Post by: Dark Lord Seanron
Them, and the short-sighted kid
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Post by: Fifty
For good or ill, it looks like the_ferret's time is up...
Goodbye, and if you are innocent, sorry.
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Does our resident spehs mahrin have anything to say?
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
Hang on a sec.
Let's do a recap of votes. Just explain who you're voting for and why. (Or why you're not voting)
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Post by: Thor665
Ye Olde Vote Accounting
0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
1 - lord of the ghosts (Mekboy )
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Emperor's Faithul
0 - Rusty Knight
2 - Drk_O ( Dark Lord Seanron Vulkan_He'stan )
7 - the_ferrett ( ginger_nid_dude Emperor's Faithful Drk_O Deff Dread red Edition Gornall Fifty Rusty Knight)
0 - ginger_nid_dude
0 - Lord-Loss
4 - Dark Lord Seanron ( the_ferrett Lord-Loss BrotherStynier lord of the ghosts)
0 - Gornall
0 - No Lynch
Not Voting: n0t_u
With 15 alive it is 8 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - the_ferrett would be lynched
Deadline countdown
Only about 2 hours left till deadline.
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Post by: Gornall
I am voting for Ferret because I believe that he tried to drop the hammer on Dark_O. I also was worried that he might be in with DLS (both of who were pushing for a fast lynch IMO). However, when I switched my vote from Ferret to DLS, several other people quickly jumped over, giving really no real reason. I thought this was curious and could be a sign of Ferret being a traitor and his cohorts trying to save him. That was my major tie-breaker between him and DLS.
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I think Gornall has hit the hammer right on the nail (or whatever the metaphor Is  )
Vote: The_Ferret
I dont think it matters much, but I want to show where I stand. I am still suspicous of DLS though.
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Post by: Thor665
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Story Post
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The dismal rain still splashes down upon the hab tents, making a sharp staccato sound as it drums along the plas-steel roof. You all sit in the cramped interior, voices raised in sharp debate as the humidity of the rain outside keeps the air thick and heavy with the sweat and frustration growing amongst you.
The ferret, a quiet man who was always convinced he had a plan, had begun talking loudly of his assurances regarding a few tell tale experiments he claims to have already tested you all with. Itchy tempers soon led to itchy trigger fingers as others argued against his methods. An argument is raised against supposed bloodthirstiness from the old veteran, Dark Lord Seanron. Votes and debate begin to pendulum back and forth between the two options. As dusk finally began to creep up, heavy and dark, and the interior of the hab tent became lit only by the flickering glow of the security lamps a decision was reached. The ferret seemed almost resigned as you all tallied the votes and turned towards him. He clenched his hands tightly but managed to resist the urge to beg like a woman or pathetically go for his gun.
A quick and searingly bright flash of laspistol fire erupted in the tent as eight of you gunned him down efficiently and the ferret toppled out of his seat to slump to the floor. The thick smell of burned flesh assaults your nostrils as you all move forward to investigate the body. Going through his pockets all you find is a copy of ‘Cunning Word Trap Experiments and You!’ and a WWCD (what would Creed do?) button.
 the_ferret was an Imperial Citizen!
Night closes around the camp as you all spread out and try to find a safe place to sleep with your back against a solid surface and your gun pointed outward.
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Day 1 is over.
Night 1 has now begun.
Deadline countdown begins from this post
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If you are a Genestealer you may now PM your allies to discuss who you wish to kill – please have someone PM me that information once you have decided.
If you are a power role that has a night action you may also now PM me with your targets.
If you’re a regular Imperial Citizen then good luck surviving the night.
Night Phase will end at the deadline or when I have received all night actions – whichever comes first.
Night 1 deadline countdown
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
ohh well we were probably going to get a citien anyway
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
*Shhhh*
No talking.
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Post by: Thor665
::Smacks Moe and Curly on the back of their heads::
Just as a bit of awareness we are basically halfway through the Night Phase now. Remember that if your night action comes in after deadline it will not be counted.
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Post by: Thor665
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Story Post
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He was starting to become convinced that this accursed rain would never cease. The campsite was drenched in billowing waves of rain that turned the upturned earth of the excavation site into a muddy morass. His feet sank into it up past the calves with each sodden step and a thick squelching noise could be heard over the pattering drops as he pulled his foot free to continue his slow march forward.
The was a damned place, of that much he was sure. He had hopped that he would have more help on this mission, but if there were others here who were trained like him they had kept themselves silent. Not that he could blame them, he had done the same thing. After all, if he had advertised to the xenos that he was here he was certain they would have come for…
The faint clicking sound behind him, like throaty snickering perhaps, or mayhap an insectoid chirping cause him to spin around. Moving with perfect grace and blinding speed his laspistol slid easily into his hand as he dropped into a ready combat crouch and scanned the area behind him carefully. No…no, it had been nothing. Perhaps exhaustion playing tricks on his mind or just the foulness of this place affecting him. He turned back to the revealed doorway they had dug out and began plotting how to best use the demo charges he had brought with him to start a mudslide that would bury it again. The presence of the xenos here suggested a connection between their activities and the rumors he had heard of what was behind this portal. He had to make sure he could slow them down until help could arrive and figured a few tons of muddy earth and stone would hinder their efforts nicely.
The mud around his feet suddenly exploded upward as a figure burst forth. Another sprang down from above, dragging him to the ground as a third cackled and clicked happily to itself as it stalked forward, clawed hands emerging from under its rain slicked poncho.
“Xenos scum,” he snarled in defiance as he struggled to reach his gun, but their grip was as hard as stone and sure as steel and he couldn’t. He spat out his final words. “Do your wor-“
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You awaken groggy and uneasy in the morning, greeted by the crackling of thunder and the sharp ozone charged flashes of lightning that paint the morning in an eerie greenish glow. You stagger stiffly out of the narrow crevice you had used for shelter and ready your weapons as you prepare to continue trying to figure out the xenos amongst you. Heading towards the heart of the camp you come up short at the sight before you. Others are drifting in from their sleeping spots as well and all of you now sit and look up at the sight before you.
His body suspended from the tree by his own entrails, his face mauled and chewed beyond recognition. It is only by his ever beloved custom laspistol that you recognize the figure in hanging before you.
Emperors Faithful is dead.
You quickly search his remains for any clues. All you manage to uncover is a bloodied Ecclesiarchal document verifying his position as an Imperial Assassin.
 Emeprors Faithful was the Officio Assassinorium Operative
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Night 1 is over.
Day 2 has now begun.
Deadline countdown begins from this post
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Day 2 deadline countdown
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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch
"Well that's... unfortunate." I say glancing over the bloodied document. Habitually I reach into my pocket and procure a Ilho stick, placing it between my lips I inhale the smoke deeply. Dropping the papers into the mud I clutch the grip of my lascarbine. "So after all that we are down too loyalists and have no idea who too trust, we took out the most obvious, perhaps its time to take a closer look?"
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Post by: Gornall
Very unfortunate indeed. The beasts got very lucky to overpower an assassin overnight. At least his presence likely means that the xenos are our only threat. (OOC: No Night Lord)
I am unsure how to approach today, as I honestly thought that we had a good chance of Ferret being scummy.
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Post by: RustyKnight
Gornall wrote:
I am unsure how to approach today, as I honestly thought that we had a good chance of Ferret being scummy.
Aye. At least we know there is no ferret- DLS alliance.
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Post by: SagesStone
Yeah... Or is there?
Well that sucks, we lost the Assassin on the first night. Damn lucky bugs
Now what do we do fellow loyalists? Do we go after DLS, as there still seemed to be a fair bit of suspicion of him left around the time the hammer was dropped, or do we reassess the situation and instead look for new possible traitors?
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Post by: Vulkan_He'stan
I dont think dls in a stealer as he has had no rely scummy things
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Post by: Lord-Loss
I dont see how this makes DLS innocent RustyKnight. Quick to finish the day, aint you N0t_u?
Why dont you confess now and we will end it quickly.
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Post by: RustyKnight
I didn't say that DLS was innocent, I merely stated that he wasn't in an alliance with ferret. That pairing was suggested earlier.
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Post by: ginger_nid_dude
Given how wrong I was yesterday, I don't expect many to agree with me, but my suspicions now fall with dark lord seanron. For most of you, when I Vote: Dark Lord Seanron, I willl be doing something you want to do, yet don't want to be first to do so
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Post by: Fifty
I believe I may have suggested the Dark Lord Seanron/the_ferret connection.
Clearly I was in error.
I will take some time to evaluate my suspicions of Dark Lord Seanron in light of the night's events before voting again.
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