2.54cm = 25.4cm

now that would be a nice size for a desk protector!

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Stupid conversions...

still not really that big... my knight is atm standing at roughly 22cm tall...

I could try making it 45cm tall (roughly 1.5' for those not metric)

well all in clay this will soon get very heavy... do you have a plinth for t to say on?...also i think you then will need some good and strudy metal rodas or better pipes to provide support...kind of like a skeleton...

I know how to build the perfect skeleton for just such a 'miniature' allowing to also have removable arms and head for easier detailing. The only problem for that is that I need to get out to the hobby store and the hardware store before it can happen...

Well.. I'ld have to draw up a to size set of plans as well so that will buy me some time to get out...

the heads looking really good, glad its working out for you!

Thanks Rouge!
I think that this exercise will be done tomorrow and on to the next idea...
I think a 1' tall marine is enough for the first try...

do you guys?

SilverHayabusa wrote:I know how to build the perfect skeleton for just such a 'miniature' allowing to also have removable arms and head for easier detailing. The only problem for that is that I need to get out to the hobby store and the hardware store before it can happen...

Well.. I'ld have to draw up a to size set of plans as well so that will buy me some time to get out...

sounds like a great plan!

Sweet... Now to come up with a medieval knight looking space marine armor...

castle crashers kill team of SM???!?!?

The back looks as though it needs a bit of build up so that it will be flat in profile and rounded at top. Like the MK-II helms are supposed to be. FW has their MK-II"s on display at multiple angles so that may help you out, Otherwise looking great so far Silver!

I think 1 to 1 is good. make it about nine inches tall.

You have to understand Vik, we cannot visualize things in metric like you do. To us, it's all in feet and inches. The average man is 6' tall, A wall stud is 8' long (7' 3/4" really) the average fishing boat is 13' long, etc. etc.

Oh my!
Try being a Canadian in drafting...!
This year is all Imperial system.
Next year it's metric...
As it stands it's conversion all the time...

@Max - Yea! I think it'll eather be 1:1 or 2:1 so 9" (22.86cm) or 18" (45.72cm)

Nine inches feels about right..
But alittle small at the same time...

SilverHayabusa wrote:Oh my!
...
Nine inches feels about right..
But alittle small at the same time...

That's what she said!


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But seriously. I think this will be awesome! A great show piece for anywhere! Hell, with something like that, my wife might even allow me to display it in the living room! *gasp!*

Well then if it works out how about I get it molded and cast and make a few copies?

I'd buy one! you know, if it looks good.

Sweetness!


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I think that I may try a veriaty of styles!

My favorite the space wolves...
Blood Angels..

And so on...


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Okay not a whole lot to show but I flatened out the back of the helm alittle and finished the vents..






C&C please!

not too bad, although i feel like hes chin is a bit too pointy, but still not bad

also there is a little wobble on the chin too... but i like how evil he looks...have you named him yet?


lovley couple...even all unfocused^^

Err... Stupid wobble.. thought I fixed that. Thanks for pointing it out Vik!

I was trying to make it feel like a knight. But I think that I might agree with you on the pointiness Rouge...
I'll examine it closer!

And thank's for the compliment Vik! Wedding photo!

lol vik.. and i thought i was a little creeper! (not really)

i think you have a handsome blue can btw

thought so^^

we wedded in red... with two kids on the seats it was the only thing to do ^^

and yeah...less pointy i think it should be^^

but keep the evil eyes!!!

and name... name that head of heads!!!


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i think you have a handsome blue can btw

*coughspervertcoughs*

can i say anything that dosent sound perverted!!!! i meant his spreycan!!!!

Sure Rogue..Whatever dood

oh yea! WELL If i go to GD, im bringing cats and thems is gonna scratch off all your skin! THEN YOU"LL BE SORRY!!!

totally sigged BTW

well.. the fact that i have a comment apropriate enough to be sigged is an honor!

Looking good, and as for that bit near the chin, hey, these pieces of armor are 10k years old at least in some cases, so it may have been seriously damaged and then repaired over the years.

Rogue Wolves wrote:lol vik.. and i thought i was a little creeper! (not really)

i think you have a handsome blue can btw

Handsome blue can???

shasolenzabi wrote:Looking good, and as for that bit near the chin, hey, these pieces of armor are 10k years old at least in some cases, so it may have been seriously damaged and then repaired over the years.

That is very true..
However I'm considering the thought of trimming the chin as others have suggested...
I was going for a midieval knight look but I think that this might be to... *Shrug*


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Oh I got the base for my next creation made tonight when I was over at my parents for easter dinner! Yay...
Now just to turn some 20 guage wire into 40 and to start building the skeliton of this large scale space marine...














And all that...

Was there supposed to be a picture there Silver?

lol

Nope! ^^ But their is now...

Okay. So this is the base that I've made for an anchor point for my Large Scale (reffered to now as LS) Space Marine. It is not much but I wanted to walk through from the begining of the project and it's going to get coated in clay and crap all throught the project so the good base is waiting until it's finished.



The next step is creating the skeliton for this beast which is tricky since he's going to weigh a good 3-4 pounds I think...
(Means hand twisting 20 guage wire into 40 than 80...
I hope that I have enough wire...


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I also barrowed an old calliper from my father to ease the clay symitryness....

looks like the perfect hobbit torture board... just saying...

but good luck with the LS space marine, always wanted to.. but never fully finished one..

Have you started one before?
If so do you have any photos?

unfortinatly the one i started is somewhere in the trash on the other side of the country, and i didnt take pictures :(

Oh...
Well that is too bad.. =(


I would haved liked to seen it.


I should have just gone out and bought thicker wire....
I is tired of twisting wire...

been there .. got tired of that..

Hey, SIlver. I am liking the overall shape of this. I think you are way on the right track. I feel like the absent friend. I missed a lot but like what I am seeing now. Keep it up.



Oh, and keep your chin up. That chin could be much worse.

Rogue Wolves wrote:looks like the perfect hobbit torture board... just saying...

but good luck with the LS space marine, always wanted to.. but never fully finished one..

lol...was my first thought exactly too...


now i am waiting for more progress!!!

@ Max - Yea I've missed your valued input and help on this but glad that your back around!

@ Vik - Should I make you a mini hobit being tortured?? And working on that progress for you.

Well almost done 'turning' out the wire for the skeliton.
So that should be together soonish I need to get out and to the store for some square brass (or other metal) tubeing for the removable bits and then I'll be in full swing on this guy!


I'm planning on him just being in a plain standing position. (I know it's not all that exciting) Just so that I can get some practice under my belt. Then I have a special character that I want to make! Mwahahaha...

I shall post some WIP skeliton photos tonight!

personally after watching way too often that miserable face of elijah woods as frodo i say ...: do it... he is just meant to be tortured....beside watched sin city and he can also do mean...why did he have to be such a wuss in LOTR ???

looking forward to yon skelton then^^

Looking good Silver! I really like how this is shaping up!

Can't wait to see the armature!

Viktor von Domm wrote:personally after watching way too often that miserable face of elijah woods as frodo i say ...: do it... he is just meant to be tortured....beside watched sin city and he can also do mean...why did he have to be such a wuss in LOTR ???

looking forward to yon skelton then^^

omg.. THIS IS SO TRUE! And the reason why Frodo is my least favorite LotR character!

He is defenatly a wuss...
However even with him I still love the movies!!!!


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Done with twisting the wires!!!
Yay!


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However I think that I'll only be able to get the legs and torso section of the skeliton done tonight..
But heading to the artstore tomorrow hopefully so that I can get the few pieces the I need..


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I decided that I should toss these up so that everyone could give opinions on them!











The shield is supposed to be a two parter. One half on each arm, each with a half of the aquila on it. Meaning that if needed you could put the two sides together (The emperor protects... Or some such) Offering cover.

I was going to toss them on Jakes thread but didn't want to take it over. So here yea go!

HMMMM.... very cool sketches... and makes me wonder if you should make them come alive by yourself! envisioning such stuff is half the work done to the actual model itself! the sword alone is someting i want to see being made... and the shield...worth for warmachine and such themed universes...!!!

the engine and the feet...all very thought through work there... don´t waste that and make your own walker...there can´t be too many walkers out there!

Planning thought is that it could possibbly be a knight titan!
I think that those just sound awesome.. .. and I am planning to at some point build my own. but in the mean time I want to show Jake because I would love to see what he can do with these thoughts!

I want to see how others can adapt and make these thoughts into their own creations. And to get the thoughts out there to all of you so that I can start to refine the designs before I can get to building them myself.

I want to pace myself because I tent to be the type of person that will go all in. Get fed up. And then drop said thoughts without getting to my potential.

Which is bad.
In my opinion at least ^^

That's very true! Make your own vision a reality, and then we can match them up for an awesome battle! Huzzah!

I mean, I'm glad to get great ideas from you, don't get me wrong, but you have great vision! And with great vision comes great responsibility...or something like that.

i know how you feel silver...i have that problem often too... so much things i want to do... disatraction of frustrtion because of bad hand eye coordination or that materials don´t behave as i would want them to...

Oh... That would be awesome. We would have to set up our own small scale convention!

DakkaNutz 2014!

Trying to figure all that I can out on how to make those artscale space marines....

I'm loveing the examples that I can find out there. But I wonder... They would need 40mm bases and so many people I know would get pissed off at me for mounting them on that...

make your own base.... use cork and such things... end of problems^^

Oh!... I ment the size of the bases...

40mm i think might be a bit on the small side...

hmm , i think someone wants some favor with the =][_,= seriously though this would be a nice walker if you build it

Is that a problem Rouge?

Can I be in the ZDF?

SilverHayabusa wrote:Is that a problem Rouge?

Can I be in the ZDF?

Hard to get that since you call him "red" instead of Rogue

lol...cardinal error so to say^^

When did I do that?...

a joke, cardinal=red=rouge wich is not really rogue... get it... gosh sometimes my jokes are so lame...

Oh...




Butterscotch.,...



Ummm.....



Frak.


Sorry rogue.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i...disatraction of frustrtion because of bad hand eye coordination or that materials don´t behave as i would want them to...

No Vik, you just have a very bad habit of using Dull Blades!

owie...

aawwwww.... that teaches me from clocking spoilertags done by you dave... didn´t knew you coul be so cruel *shudders*

He is a crule crule man...

no problem wanting favor with the =][_,= and also yes I'll make you a ZDF banner as well btw dave, that is fething hilarious!

Thanks!

i thought it was funny... But made me sick at the same time!
It's always my fear when cutting veggies...

I don't always use spoilertags...

...but when I do, I prefer memorable ones

C'mon! It's soo fake!

That one is for sure going to stay in my head for a long time...

reminds me of the time i cooked with a freind called Jeff... he dosent talk to me that much anymore..... he takes things very personal

What did he do???

One should chose cooking partners carefully Rogue!

SilverHayabusa wrote:What did he do???

twas a joke, i was hinting that i cut off his fingers too, although it never actually happened!

Rogue Wolves wrote:

SilverHayabusa wrote:What did he do???

twas a joke, i was hinting that i cut off his fingers too, although it never actually happened!

Ah, that explains it.

And here I thought that you scared him away...

I thought thats what you had ment... XP

but maybie.. im not joking, and that i am only saying that i am joking to hide the deep dark secret that was jeff....

What have I done?

Only what needed doing, Dave. WIcked pics, Silver. I like them very much. Now, go make them real.......


Rouge, nice new handle for him. Funny......

He's the rouge wolves...

Go red squad

damn good thing that red has always been my favorite color then right?

Rouge is also an item of women's make-up... tis blusher

So you like a bit of Rouge then?

naah im good, im at ease with being pale-ish

ohoh...an image is creeping its way through the different layers of my mind...

Brace yourselves everyone... Vik is having a thought, or a bowel movement... not sure which >_<

me neither...puke or fluke...whatever comes first...

Haha, well do both we won't see or smell the bad one so let em both rip.....


When it comes to bodily fluids and functions Better out than in I always say...

So does Shreks momma...

So I guess it must be true.

The League has infected this thread!!

where did you get that stamp Silver!?!?!

INfected is a little but of a harsh word, dude. I prefer improved.....

That's a better word....

^ see this is a man who knows how to make something bad seem good

Rogue Wolves wrote:where did you get that stamp Silver!?!?!

that was done by me^^

and he may use it! does it good to get some more airing that way^^

I thought that you had posted it Vik!

I didn't think that anyone could read my other one.

Are we talking about the heresy stamp? Cause I love it.....

I thought that it was epic...
Thought. Still think it is!

I'm not good with picking avitars....


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Sorry for the lack of updates this week guys...


It's the end of the semester and I have a design project, portfolio, presentation... and bla bla to do....



Got to love house planning!

Education has to come first.........



So, educate us........

You want to learn how to draw a set of blueprints???

Or watch me do it?

Hell if there is a choice I choose both, professer. When does tye lecture begin? I can't see blueprinting as an unnecessary skill in this hobby........

I think that it could be very useful....


Expecially if many copies of things are to be made....

I'm with mxwllmdr! teach us! ;D

ok everyone, sit in a circle.. open your hearts and minds...aaaaand....

...pass it around

NO, not unless you chip in

yeah...praise the lords and pass the ammunition...er...wrong kind of phrase here?

yeah teach us...if you can teach us it shows you´ve understood it yourself^^

and yep...tho that it was just a mere alteration of someones earlier work i think it looks quite cool^^

Okies... I will do so...
Well attemp to teach what could be relivent to scratchbuilding..
Not sure how much will translate through..


And Vik. I may know how do... Whatever it is I'm learning to .. do...
But not quite sure how to translate that into modeling..

well...we see about that...and if "I" can understand it you have basically broken down your knowledge so much that it is now an essential part of your way of thinking...or...you can recall it in your sleep as we used to say^^

Sounds good..
- I can try to relay the basics of laying out a building.
- Where and how dimensions should be placed.

...
Can you think of anything else that I should focus on?
My course outline as it were?

hmmm... i think questions will arise and then new stuff will be explored...but that sounds like a good start?

Well then I guess that works.

Well, show us more pics of how you are going about making that Malcador would be a great start.

Well I can say whats holding me up at the moment is the tracks...
I'm wondering if I can mold them or if I have to scratch build them tread-by-tread...
I wouldn't mind scratch building them and it would give it more of a personal feel. But I don't and won't have the time for that in the forseeable future with the final semester about to start..
4.5 weeks to design a house from scratch with all the technical drawings..

I'm looking forward to it all tho.
And am hoping to get that beautiful creation done soon.
I'll post some picks of my plans soon!

^second that!

What part?

sorry my post came in between...but now after reading yours above i say...try to make up a plan for the treads...that is something i want to see... also maybe you can enlighten us with how to tackle planmaking for a tank... i recently downloaded blender and i have skecthup from google but i never really got the hang of it...but would love to know more how to use it...

Oh gods! Not blender!.....

*Shudder....*

I had to use that for a while when I was in gaming college.
I thought it wasn't all that good....

But some people like it. And it's free. So I can't judge them.


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Sketchup isn't that bad. Although I've only used it once...

well from sketchup i never could get the shapes i wanted to make ... i wanted to desgin my first tank by this prog...failed utterly...

with blender...well i have to install it... and then i can tell^^

free was the part that i liked the most too^^

Oh for sure!

I like free stuff. No money = love free...
However I am lucky enough to still have the program that my school had given me. And it still works. So I don't have to work with blender.

and what prog would that be?

From gaming it would be Autodesks Maya
And for Architectural Drafting Autodesks AutoCADD

i´ve heard about auto cadd... that is quite an expensive software...

and maya? what are you doing atm, studying what exactly?

I'm studying Architectural Drafting at the moment.
I'm a graduate in 3D game animation production tho.

interesting...have you yet done anything gaming wise that you want to share/show?

I don't think that much of it is worth showing.
But I think that I can scrounge up some stuff to post here for you to see.

would love to see that!

and wow...you eat up a lot of avatars in the past week^^

Yea... I wanted one that was more mine.

SilverHayabusa wrote:Well I can say whats holding me up at the moment is the tracks...
I'm wondering if I can mold them or if I have to scratch build them tread-by-tread...

I have a TON of spare Leman Russ/Chimera Track links if you need them. I think that your Malcador would look funny with scratchbuilt treads and weapons. You are attempting to make it look like the FW model right?

well...it can be done...scratchbuilding your own treads... with some tool like the chop it this is not a feat unthinkable at all...

I don't think I would trade my sanity for that though....

Sanity is overrated, anyway, Dave. But if spare track is available and it will move the project along........


Oh, yeah, going around base today for all the photos of the tanks and bridgelayers....

Cool!

damn silver is that 3 different avatars this week??

Yup, but who's counting

ummm.. no one i guess..

I have changed mine once in a year. Maybe the time has come.......

dsteingass wrote:

SilverHayabusa wrote:Well I can say whats holding me up at the moment is the tracks...
I'm wondering if I can mold them or if I have to scratch build them tread-by-tread...

I have a TON of spare Leman Russ/Chimera Track links if you need them. I think that your Malcador would look funny with scratchbuilt treads and weapons. You are attempting to make it look like the FW model right?

That would be great!
That would move the project right along!


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And it's only changing because I am unsatisfied with it...
I'm trying to get one that feels and looks right.

changing avatars is fun...but sometimes me old brain is having to run all uphill to understand who is doing the talking then^^

as for the taks...max we´ve been waiting^^ hope you wont get into trouble for that tho...

and dave... just for you, i will do just that... next project is set! plastic tank with scratchbuild treads!

Vik that is awesome!
The picture makes me want to get cracking!

Stupid 15 page design report.


Scratch build?
Design report?
Scratch build?
Design report?
Scratch build?
Design report?
Scratch build?
Design report?

......


Stupid school runing the fun...

I still haven't been able to get out onto base for the photos. Missus up and went on a road trip to near the next state with some friends that are visiting and I have been here all day running around with the kids and dogs appointments and such.....



Did get the Electro-Hawk mailed though, so not a complete loss........

No worries Max!
Take your time so that when you can get to it you can get lots of shots of those bridge layers!
I can not wait to see the E-hawk painted!

yep...i know that one^^ well...dakka is here to give you the stuff you are currently not able to do by letting it be done by others... come next chance it is your time and other do the looking^^

I guess it's only fair that his family gets him for 1 or 2 MAX days But he'll only have 28 days laeft to build!

Yep, and I intend on using them wisely....


As far as painting it goes....


Horst has that pleasure and man do I not envy him....



He will do amazing, though I am sure......

1 or 2 MAX days

pun intended???


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as for the apinting of the e-hawk...i hope he will let us see the progress... i really hope so...and with such an excellent model...what could possibly go wrong?

Well silver if you do not get the spare Leman treads from Dave, if you have some yourself, I would say make some molds, and then cast away like mad!

@ shaso - I think that I don't get them I am definatly going to try my hand at making casts of the samples that I have here.

Silver...

Slightly OT, but this always makes me think of you:

I don't think that OT has any meaning on =]_,= threads...........

that is disturbingly right^^

Fair point... the spoiler still stands though

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Silver...

Slightly OT, but this always makes me think of you:

Spoiler:

Me? Whys that make you think of me?

mxwllmdr wrote:I don't think that OT has any meaning on =]_,= threads...........

Viktor von Domm wrote:that is disturbingly right^^

So this is a -=L,=- thread...?

The author of a thread does not determine whether or not it is a league thread.....


It is whether or not we infect and assimilate it......


Resistance is futile.............

Oh god!!!!


He's not mechanicus!


HE'S BORG!!!!


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*Hides.*

The name of the song reflects the shortened pet name you have "silver"

Oh so in name alone...

Okay!

mxwllmdr wrote:The author of a thread does not determine whether or not it is a league thread.....


It is whether or not we infect and assimilate it......


Resistance is futile.............

infect-no
assimilate- YES

I on the other hand infect... it's in my nature... I am Papa-Nid after all ^_^

infect - bad
assimilate - good (to us)

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I on the other hand infect... it's in my nature... I am Papa-Nid after all ^_^

Ewwwie!

What germs have you given my thread????

I can't send you any goodies if I don't have your address man! PM me with it!

more Viral than anything else Silver... and well if you start to have conculsions... then I haz new babies on the way ^_^

dsteingass wrote:I can't send you any goodies if I don't have your address man! PM me with it!

I just have to convince the wife that your not a crazy stalker pervert person and that giving you our postal code wont lead to a horse head in the bed or worse....
Takes a bit to do...

I don't get it? You need permission from your wife to get mail?

t's not needing permission. It's being curtious to all.

SilverHayabusa wrote:

dsteingass wrote:I can't send you any goodies if I don't have your address man! PM me with it!

I just have to convince the wife that your not a crazy stalker pervert person and that giving you our postal code wont lead to a horse head in the bed or worse....
Takes a bit to do...

How about a Tyranid' head, now *that* I can arrange

^ put a full sized tyranid head bleeding in my bed, and i would consider myself 1up'd on everything i ever did

Your on RW

If I found a tyanid head in my bed someone would be stabed by a tyranid fang some quick..

Gotta catch me first Silver

I'm a hayabusa...
You can't out run me!

Mwahahaha!

I be Papa-Nid... I can look like anything, and even make myself completely camouflaged

....
Dude. No godmodeing...

Thats a little hard... I'm Papa-Nid

boo...

You win this round mister bond!
...
I mean Dr no!
...
I mean papa nid!

If any one finds a full size nid head in there bed there had damn well better be a NATGEO SPECIAL and a Destination Truth episode.........

That just went over my head Max... for those of us who don't live in North America?

for those of us who live in North of Southern North-America?

lol

National Geographic special for the finding of a new species and a Destination truth episode ( a show on the sci fi network about cryptozoology).......



Sorry, guys, I was funny - ish for those that got it..........

Max...




... Your never funny...




... Just funny looking hehe

Yeah, but at least I am that in spades and consistantly...........

very true

mxwllmdr wrote:The author of a thread does not determine whether or not it is a league thread.....


It is whether or not we infect and assimilate it......


Resistance is futile.............

QFT...sorry to chime in so late on this...for the lack of a better word...discussion...

Now that I know I think its funny..

think of us more in terms of locusts...there won´t be a blade of grass left...

i got it! Yea America!

Thats okay Vik! I grew it all just for you guys!
I wouldn't be attempting any of this if it wern't for the -=L,=-

@ RW - LOL

LOL...ok...*munch munch*

All the rivets to come are dedicated to the all of you.

by the way... what has become of your sculpt? any progress you want to share?

Not at the moment...

Still waiting on the chance to get to the hobby store for some PC square tubing..

I hope on monday!

Lots of sketches! Although my folks took there camera back...

Boo..

oh crap...without my cam i would feel very helpless atm...tho i really should do some more work on my knight... last days were all family related tho...

I feel so lost without it...

I don't know what I'd do without my SLR... it'd be like losing my "lower regions" :(

i bet that feels crap...

I wouldn't know... How about we ask RW?


OOOOOOOH POST 1000!!! ^_^

ask me what??

1000 posts... reminds me of that springsteen song... 100 chanels and nothing on...

how it feels to live without your nether regions

wtf!

oh that was so low...get it? Muahahaha

lols ^5 Vik....

..

*lost*

was that a mark or a high five?

(here in germany you get schoolmarks ranging from one=very good to six= very bad)

*hands out maps*




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That was a High Five Vik

whats with the maps??

Rogue Wolves wrote:whats with the maps??

I was lost.
But a map of nothing doesn't help...

Silver was lost RW...

lol...

^

This has become a silly place, Another win for the =L=. HUZZAH!

...Just like our rivets, our thread-marauding holds things together

sounds more´n more like the very essence of life...which it actually is of course^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:sounds more´n more like the very essence of life...which it actually is of course^^

LOL! Well said Vik!

well...i was raised to own up to the truth

It's all craziness....


just craziness...

that is a general good response to almost everything^^

Isn't it?

In no way does that mean that it's a bad thing.

so...*looks around* this thread has become rather absent of pics of late...* looks around again...*

Oh Vik.
It has hasn't it....

Boo...

Well there is only one cure for that!
I will have to get some pic's for you!

*Goes off to find some*

*waves, sits and waits*----


*waits some more...*


*waits still....*




















































NOW where was them pretty pics to pop up???

*Scaning..*

*waiting...*

Ooooo... You really are!
Now they're thoughts.
So help them get better!

we need more´n thoughts i´m afraid^^

Well then help them to elvolve and grow rivets?

then they would be truly unstaoppable...who would want unstoppable bugs???

Unearthlychild?

ups...i thought i was on UAC thread^^ lol...dakka gets so confusing^^

I think we all just need to merge into one imperium of a thread


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Okay firstly.
Knight Titan Sketches.
My plan is to start this guy after my LS space marine is done.








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And some LS SM thoughts.
Hope life lets be get started tomorrow!




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And some IG helmet thoughts.





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And lastly a poorly done Dreadnought design




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Alittle happier Vik?

now that was worth the waiting^^

i like those sketches...

the dread has a bit of a pre-HH look for it with those larger legs...

and the twinshield look for the knight looks very good...the steamgun...i want to see how you get that done in plastic and other materials asap^^

i like the legs of the knight...but the knihgts head looks not right... i think a later version...more in detail should solve this tho...

as for the empirial sketches...i like the last two the most... the first one has potential but needs more work i think to see what is what...

the second...more roman or rather greek looking one is not my style... but that is just taste...so forgive me my opinion^^

oh and yep...i have to second the orky look of the SM^^

Nice looking stuff!

How tall are you planning on the Knight to be?

Is there a set scale for them? I keep hearing contrasting heights.

Anyway, hope to see some progress pics soon!

perposterous levels of testostorone... perposterone

@ Vik - I'll see what I can pick up at the store to put together a test of the steam gun..

The Dread looks alittle off balance to me but that can be fixed. I'm thinking that it'll be a pre-HH that has been beaten through the ages.

As for the IG I think that the last two are also my favorite!

@ Jake - I'm going to make the knight 12m tall. My friend loaned me Mechanicum and so far they've only mentioned Paladin-class Knights which are 9m high. So I deduced that there are many (or at least a few) classes of knight. I might see that there is before I finish tho.


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Rogue Wolves wrote:perposterous levels of testostorone... perposterone

OMG. Gotta love Picknic Face!

^btw i like the sketches, this titan is going to be legitimatly awsome!

Can't wait to see pics of it

I hope it turns out guys!

But I want a clear idea of it before I get into it.


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Okay I know this is covered in random doodles..


But this is closer to what I'm meaning.

to get the better recognizable SM look i would alter the shoulderpads acordingly...those are pretty iconic for the look...

the torso and abs look very good tho...

the random doodles...wonky mixture...one resembles a david star? and the other one i wont name might get you into trouble...

the new knight sketches tho are a giant leap in the right direction...well if i was the maker^^ as the assault gun will be one of my favoriote choices for weaponry for all time^^, also the head looks way better now..i like those rimssections specifically the best...with all those rivets! but this will be tricky to build i guess or do you have a clever plan? i hope so...because consider it then nicked^^

Oh Vik! I didn't even think that that looked like that...
Boo. Now thats all I can see....
I thought that it looked like a cool storm shield design....

I will look into redesigning the shoulder pads for the space marine...

I love the assult cannon! Who wouldn't love mowing down rows of infantry with those?

Thanks for the complement on the titan head!

Although I am confused on how you think the head would be hard to do. I think that it will be just as hard as the rest of the beast!

Silver, there are several classes of knights. This is the information I am using to create the model set:

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Knight

Thanks Max!
This is emensly helpful!

You have planned a good amount of rivets...this pleases me.

I am glad to have pleased you Dave.
I have been to the hobbie store. And that pleases me. To no end.

It is better then santa's workshop...


So I got a haul! But with no camera comes the lack of haul pic's which makes me unhappy...

I will however say what I did get:
Hobbie saw & miter set from zona
4oz. Milliput
1/4 & 5/16 square plastic tube from evergreen
Armmature wire!

And some new sketch pens.

This all means that the Space Marine can start! Woot!

hey mate... don´t feel bad about the above mentioned sketch...that shape somehow creeps inside us all too often... i had while plaing with the kids with lego oh so often built this shape out of bricks... somehow it is very easy to enfd up with it...

i thought the head to be difficult because of the riveted up bands... how i would aproach this i woul use "L" shaped rods of PC and this would hamper me no end... because sometimes i make myself more problems in designing than is needed^^

the hobby saw will be your next new friend... i bought me recently a micro saw and i enjoyed every cut i did with it...thse thingies saw in both directions with ease... something that really helps to get clean cuts on a very small scale!

I love the assult cannon! Who wouldn't love mowing down rows of infantry with those?

QFT!!!

I think it's that it feels good simitry wise. It has balance and flow. And alot of bad associated with it...

As for the head I plan to make the base squareish shape and then to add thin strips of plasticard to it along the seams to simulate strapping and then glue the rivets to that.

It already is a very nice friend.

Assembily of the frame for the space marine is underway. I just have to wait for the putty do harden so that the rest of it can be formed.

Excellent work

If you can get this done. I am wondering what sort of posing it will have? I think it would make excellent statuesque scenery for a table......

i think that is a good idea max! what will he be wielding?

I hadn't given a lot of thought to what he would carry...
hmmm...
I don't want it to be to standard. Nor to complicated. He's just going to be in a standing pose and if I like how he turns out I'm going to make another in a more action pose.


What type of weapons do you guy's think?

well...

you could go down this road:



or you let him lend on a really bit hammer... heads up his arms resting on the hammers head just as he would be doing if he had finished a huge battle...maybe later on you could add some orkheads on the base...slain enemies and so on...

Thanks Vik that was what I was starting to invision!
That really helps to clear it up in my head!

Although mine might be alittle tall. But we can see when he's done.

What about a hammer resting on his shoulder and shield in hand? Or Hammer and bolt pistol? Or... Something else?

well...if you have a statue look in mind... i think some weapons or rather poses with these are out of option here... i think the pose should look like he is either praying, cheering, contemplating, resting, musing, or downright stiking an enemy...like st greorge that slayed the dragon... so a bolter i think is too heavy looking... boltpistol would work... but the pose then is key... shield and either sword or hammer/mace would also need a special pose...currently i am at a loss to these tho... for me the hammer is best... a nice two handed one... but that is totally my idea and yours should be your own...

^^

What about a general feel?
As if he's standing on a battle feild holding out his weapon like he's pointing directing troops or issueing a challange to an enemy?

^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?

SilverHayabusa wrote:What about a general feel?
As if he's standing on a battle feild holding out his weapon like he's pointing directing troops or issueing a challange to an enemy?

Rogue Wolves wrote:^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?

those two thoughts...mixém together and do a sketch mate!! i think there is win inside that idea! the pointing arm tho means you need to sculpt a power fist on him for sure...otherwise it would look too skinny for a statuesque gesture...

Rogue Wolves wrote:^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?

I just had a very Captain Morgan moment.....

LOL...yeah right^^

He's going to have to be standing flat on the ground since thats how I have the armmature strapped down....

How do power fists work again? Is it on the free hand? The one with the weapon? Or both?

I don't think you can hold a weapon in the same hand as a power fist....

Yea.. I didn't think that you could. Just was unsure..

mxwllmdr wrote:

Rogue Wolves wrote:^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?

I just had a very Captain Morgan moment.....

Who says he wasnt the idea??? And who says ??

Okay so since I'm still trying to get a camera type situation set up at the moment I thought that I should post a verbal update on the progress that I have been making thus far.

Firstly it's going slower then I would like it to since this armature is far larger then what I am used to making and much more complicated because he has built into him four removable parts. Both of his arms his head and his pack are removable for easier detailing and moulding in those hard to reach locations and althought I have the knowledge on how this works I have never done it before and am running into and fixing problems as they arise.

When assembiling the body of the armmature I got over excited to be working on it and thusly made the legs to long and didn't have the material to finish the torso so I had to splice the top to the bottom of the wires. However him having longer leg sections has given me the room to add a base to him for a more statue like apearance.

Another problem that I am facing is the milliput that I got at my local hobbie store is a pain to work with. It's the only putty that they had so it's what I got. It's alot crumblier then I thought it would be and doesn't make near as strong of a bond as I thought it would. So I have had to reattach and add inforcing to it in places.

I've formed the arms and the basics for the head and had to break and reconect the attachments so that he could be posed the way that I would like him to be. And wiring the hand was a pain in the butt but the right are is done and waiting for it to dry so that I can see how it worked out before I go onto the left hand and the frame for the pack.

Thats the report for now as I'm currently waiting for stuff to dry as always seems to be the case so we'll see what hapens next...

actually i think i saw SM wield powerfists and use them to hold hammers and such stuff...but no fancy stuff like boltpistols...

Do you have any photos?

hmmmm... not currently... i could look via goodle tho...


mom

Ouch.
That was low VIk...


Really low.

er... no...i was really taking a look for you...:



but that pose was the only one i could come up with that was along the lines i had in mind for you... the other where the powerfist supports a big hammer i didn´t find...


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and if i think you should look for yourself then i tell you so... i am rather a blunt knife in your ear^^ if i want to be that way...^^ so...i like to be as honest as can be... and if i say i google that for you i do just that...see?

I have seen power fists wield hammers before too.


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And Vik, why you picking on the new kid?

hey... i am not picking on him... i wanted to be helpful...no fair...*poutes*

Ah I thought you were telling me to so I whent to look...
I couldn't find the two powerfists holding a hammer.

So that means that I will keep looking.

And thanks for sticking up for me Max!

I don't get it though....why would you WANT to carry a weapon in a power fist?

No idea...
Thought it would look cool.

...Nothing wrong with that motivation..ever!

Anyway who would like their otherwise tiny little gloved hands?

I modeled one of My demon Princes dual wilding swords cause I thought it looked cool......

rule of cool is always the main rule...

and silver

Go rule of cool!

I'm going to try and get a picture of the finished armmature up today...

Yay!

Silver your thread made front page.......

How did it do that....?


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I sure as anything don't think it should be there....

I think it should. But then again it has to do with content and so forth. You may be a beginner but you are certainly not untalented and it shows....



Keep up the good stuff......

yeah... quite the low selfesteem^^ scupting and lots of cretive idea and so on... you have nothing to hide^^

just found this on the fronpage... maybe this might be a sort of inspiration for yur big guy...:

what thread is that from??

twas on the front page earlier RW.

dunno what thread... just posted it here...mom...

and didn´t found a P&M thread of him at all... but he has some excellent sculpting skills... look at his gallery...maybe some comments could pull him out from lurking...

Silver, I know I have been MIA but where you at, buddy.....

Oh man it has been a while, everything alright silvery silver?

i hope the GW SWAT team hasn´t got him... who knows what they do to him for sculpting his own big SM...

ow mah gawd!

it is bound to happen these days...

yea... which reminds me i really want squats back, but more like space dwarves compared to the space halflings they used to be.. some hard badass space mining crew, or space oil drillers would be awsome

RW this is how they should look...



Its the Demiurg concept sketch they did at FW before they shelved the entire project.

Remember Demiurg (The remnants of the squats, but evolved further) are a commerce race, and known to deal with Tau in that sector of the galaxy. Few in number, but have technology that is far superior that the majority of races in the game. The few times Imperium ships have had conflict with Demiurg ships, left the Imperium reeling from the encounter. The ships spent years limping back to a safe port.

well scratch the whole germany trip im headed to fw offices to kick some ass and ask why not these^^ This is how i was picturing them exactly... being that im still relativly knew to 40k (3 years ) i didnt know of the Demiurg.. now i am satisfied

they have a limited fleet for Battlefleet Gothic, but tbh, with the firepower those bad boys throw out, you don't need a big fleet. Look em up on lexi.

will do^