Haighus wrote:
Looks like Terminator lightnimg claw again- has the hinge thingy at the elbow. I think new Terminators are all but confirmed at this point?

Yes, but it is still unclear what kind of terminators we are getting. The discussed options are:
Re-Design of the current terminator squad
Elite terminators
Terminator characters

Given that the new possessed seem to be an additional unit to the existing possessed, I'd wager that the same will happen with terminators.

I wonder if the "purging" of the Deamon Engine means we're getting a full reveal of the box tomorrow.

Or it's them switching over to sneak peeks of the Loyalist stuff.

Probably that. We're probably only going to see Primaris previews until the countdown ends.

In my opinion GW is less interested in just updating models. I think they're gonna use the updated models to justify the rule and conceptual fixes, much like how primaris are not just 1-to-1 replacements for SM units even thought they're a conceptual update bringing forward a heightened concept for the loyalist marines that feel more futuristic and heroic. What I've suspected and what I see in these new Chaos releases is that GW's committed to deepening the distinctiveness of CSM from Loyalist SM... that we'll probably see more chaos units that feel like ruinous powers have elevated an astartes instead of just hampering them, and that we'll get for undivided chaos more character types that represent distinctly chaos pursuits, much like but different then what Deathguard got.

I think the fist/claw looks more like a power armored model's bit.

maybe the smoke comes from something similar

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Daemon Engine of some kind.

Outside chance? Redesigned Defiler (it needs it if you ask me)

Now we can see the other side of the Venom Crawler, I can't see any legs that match.

 Haighus wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Daemon Engine of some kind.

Outside chance? Redesigned Defiler (it needs it if you ask me)

Now we can see the other side of the Venom Crawler, I can't see any legs that match.

Not this one, but the Venomcrawler could be like the Plague Drone, with a monopose in the box, and a multipart with more options that this leg and the carapace baleflamer mount come from.

That could be the case, but it would be very cheeky by GW to point out they don't tease stuff that has been revealed, then go "Aha! We didn't reveal the multipart kit!!!".

someone should add this to OP thread just in case

Daemonic backpack isnt the same as Greater Possessed backpack. Spikes on top dont match.

Glumy wrote:
Daemonic backpack isnt the same as Greater Possessed backpack. Spikes on top dont match.

The spikes on the backpack are the spikes from his head and shoulder pad that they didn’t photoshop out.

Glumy wrote:
Daemonic backpack isnt the same as Greater Possessed backpack. Spikes on top dont match.

See my pictures a page or two back.
It’s the same one. Just an angle

We can't prove it at the moment, but I am fairly sure the first backpack will turn out to belong to the second greater Possessed.

Also isn't the autocanon (?) the one shown here (bottom left):



No it isn't - just saw that the bottom doesn't have the support bar :(

 aracersss wrote:
someone should add this to OP thread just in case

Spoiler:

PM me a copy and I'll add it to the front. As is, its a blocked site for me.

And now back to your regularly scheduled rumour engine.



Gonna state the obvious, dwarf faction terrain.

YAY IDONETH STUFF!

Those are present on the base for the Eidolonn of Mathlaan's scenic base.

Future GW price tag .

 lord_blackfang wrote:
And now back to your regularly scheduled rumour engine.



Gonna state the obvious, dwarf faction terrain.

Dwarves or free people.


Completely unseen angle - the paymaster is back and DoW are returning lol.

 Kanluwen wrote:
YAY IDONETH STUFF!

Those are present on the base for the Eidolonn of Mathlaan's scenic base.

Looks like Idoneth trinkets within a pile of gold, so could be a piece of terrain from another army or something like that who fight Idoneth and take valuables.

They've said they want to do Endless Spells for all the factions, and some kind of "lurker of the deeps" spell that eats magic items would be pretty damn great.

Goblin air-pirate treasure hoard.

 Kanluwen wrote:
YAY IDONETH STUFF!

Those are present on the base for the Eidolonn of Mathlaan's scenic base.

Spoiler:

Except that is clearly treasure from sunken ship that was NOT built by Idoneth. If anything, that was teaser for whatever faction makes hawk-headed boats...

Also, in the name of Tradition:

Clearly this is in fact the rare and cunning treasure squig, so called for its ability to mimic a pile of gold and gems in order to lure treasure hunters, pirates etc. to within striking range.

People people its a fantasy game with gold coins - must I be the first to say DRAGON!

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also, in the name of Tradition:

Clearly this is in fact the rare and cunning treasure squig, so called for its ability to mimic a pile of gold and gems in order to lure treasure hunters, pirates etc. to within striking range.

A worthy suggestion, but I think you are mistaken. This is clearly the venerable and valuable Lieutenant position of Accountant of the Chapter. He hands out buffs based on the price-to-points ratio of models.

 Haighus wrote:
Future GW price tag .

Blunt and accurate statement.

 Kanluwen wrote:
YAY IDONETH STUFF!

Those are present on the base for the Eidolonn of Mathlaan's scenic base.

Spoiler:

Maybe you can finally solve “The Curious Case of the Missing Fish Bit” where a fish mounted to a base was revealed but doesn’t go to any Idoneth kits that were part of the initial release.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
YAY IDONETH STUFF!

Those are present on the base for the Eidolonn of Mathlaan's scenic base.

Spoiler:

Maybe you can finally solve “The Curious Case of the Missing Fish Bit” where a fish mounted to a base was revealed but doesn’t go to any Idoneth kits that were part of the initial release.

I figured that one just slipped the nets...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

Preemptively check off the backpack with candles and the flaming book daemon rumor engines.The guy next to Abaddon (dark apostle) satisfies both.

 Kanluwen wrote:
YAY IDONETH STUFF!

Those are present on the base for the Eidolonn of Mathlaan's scenic base.

Spoiler:

My thought as well. Just converted an Eidolonn to use as a C'Tan Shard of the Deceiver.

But he has no coins.

I do not see any type of elf with coins as treasure.

But I see any kind of dwarf with coins and elven jewelry seized as treasure .

Ammo belt is from the new Havoc

Good spot!

The unsolved brazier from months ago does not match the one on Abaddon's base, so we are still looking out for that one.

Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

zamerion wrote:
But he has no coins.

I do not see any type of elf with coins as treasure.

But I see any kind of dwarf with coins and elven jewelry seized as treasure .

Ever watched any footage of shipwrecks? Coins all over the place with critters residing within is not exactly an unheard of trope for undersea things.

And an Eidolon has decided to place his Idoneth jewels near abandoned coins (of another race) in the middle of the sea.

Because that Eidolon is a guy with a lot of style.



and now seriously, the jewels are Idoneth sure, but that does not mean that it has to be 100% idoneth

zamerion wrote:
And an Eidolon has decided to place his Idoneth jewels near abandoned coins (of another race) in the middle of the sea.

Because that Eidolon is a guy with a lot of style.



and now seriously, the jewels are Idoneth sure, but that does not mean that it has to be 100% idoneth

You understand that nobody is saying it's an Eidolon or whatever right?

GW stated they want to do Endless Spells(or a facsimile like the new Khorne stuff) for every book. Idoneth don't have Endless Spells and could literally just be given a (pardon the pun) wave of release that is just Endless Spells and maybe some updated Warscroll Cards.

zamerion wrote:
And an Eidolon has decided to place his Idoneth jewels near abandoned coins (of another race) in the middle of the sea.

Because that Eidolon is a guy with a lot of style.



and now seriously, the jewels are Idoneth sure, but that does not mean that it has to be 100% idoneth

The types of treasure don't match, that we all agree on.
Only logical option is pirates.

zamerion wrote:
And an Eidolon has decided to place his Idoneth jewels near abandoned coins (of another race) in the middle of the sea.

Because that Eidolon is a guy with a lot of style.



and now seriously, the jewels are Idoneth sure, but that does not mean that it has to be 100% idoneth

It's just a guess, man. No need to get so defensive about it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

zamerion wrote:
And an Eidolon has decided to place his Idoneth jewels near abandoned coins (of another race) in the middle of the sea.

Because that Eidolon is a guy with a lot of style.



and now seriously, the jewels are Idoneth sure, but that does not mean that it has to be 100% idoneth

You understand that nobody is saying it's an Eidolon or whatever right?

GW stated they want to do Endless Spells(or a facsimile like the new Khorne stuff) for every book. Idoneth don't have Endless Spells and could literally just be given a (pardon the pun) wave of release that is just Endless Spells and maybe some updated Warscroll Cards.

And you dont understand that I was joking about eidolon?

You're sure it's an endless spell of the idoneth, and I'm just saying it could be anything even if it has an idoneth object.

 EnTyme wrote:


It's just a guess, man. No need to get so defensive about it.

I was just trying to make a joke :(

 Gael Knight wrote:
Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

Truth be told, I'm not sure.

But, I am sure that Renegade Guard and Dark Mechanicus are going to be codexes, I just don't know when they'll drop.

Maybe the coins are from undead pirates? Total War Warhammer just had the undead pirate dlc so maybe they are going to bring them to aos?

 Gael Knight wrote:
Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

might be a good battle box sisters VS. renegade guard

might be a good battle box sisters VS. renegade guard


Honestly if they wanted to harken back to the good ole days it would be Sisters vs Necrons!

Though that didn’t end well for the sisters

Jesus guys, lets all calm down.

We’ve learned something here.
That I’m going to consider using an Eidolon as a C’tan, as I’ve been looking for an alternative and when I read that it clicked..

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Maybe the coins are from undead pirates? Total War Warhammer just had the undead pirate dlc so maybe they are going to bring them to aos?

*Crosses fingers*

Danny76 wrote:
Jesus guys, lets all calm down.

We’ve learned something here.
That I’m going to consider using an Eidolon as a C’tan, as I’ve been looking for an alternative and when I read that it clicked..

You're welcome.

 Togusa wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

Truth be told, I'm not sure.

But, I am sure that Renegade Guard and Dark Mechanicus are going to be codexes, I just don't know when they'll drop.

This was the rumor at the start of 8th... and since then far crazier things have been released. Dark Mechanicum becomes kinda easy, if GW wants it has all these Daemon Engine models its produced and that in lore the DM are responsible for making. This would just leave the DM troop/infantry and DM techpriest/magos/archmagos equivalents. Its been stated by FW they are going to release DM for Heresy and rumored that rules would eventually be made available for 40k like the Custodes' rules were. Although I've always thought its possible those initial rumors might just have been confused with FW's effort.

It's pretty important both DM and Traitor Guard are distinctive from their loyalist counterparts, as it is Dark Mechanicus already benefit from a distinctive groundwork of Daemon Engines, so they're half way there. Whenever GW does Traitor Guard, I don't think they'll directly call them that; I think they will try to distance them from the 'Guard' as much as possible. Yeah, they'll have some shared units, the lore will mention it, and the models will look the part, but GW will shoot for something more like the "Blood Pact" with all the crazy Stalk-tank type vehicles and all the justification to be more than just spikey IG.

 aka_mythos wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

Truth be told, I'm not sure.

But, I am sure that Renegade Guard and Dark Mechanicus are going to be codexes, I just don't know when they'll drop.

This was the rumor at the start of 8th... and since then far crazier things have been released. Dark Mechanicum becomes kinda easy, if GW wants it has all these Daemon Engine models its produced and that in lore the DM are responsible for making. This would just leave the DM troop/infantry and DM techpriest/magos/archmagos equivalents. Its been stated by FW they are going to release DM for Heresy and rumored that rules would eventually be made available for 40k like the Custodes' rules were. Although I've always thought its possible those initial rumors might just have been confused with FW's effort.

It's pretty important both DM and Traitor Guard are distinctive from their loyalist counterparts, as it is Dark Mechanicus already benefit from a distinctive groundwork of Daemon Engines, so they're half way there. Whenever GW does Traitor Guard, I don't think they'll directly call them that; I think they will try to distance them from the 'Guard' as much as possible. Yeah, they'll have some shared units, the lore will mention it, and the models will look the part, but GW will shoot for something more like the "Blood Pact" with all the crazy Stalk-tank type vehicles and all the justification to be more than just spikey IG.

DM would also be a good excuse to make a new plastic Warpsmith- that would be a smart move cos it could be used in two armies.

Negavolt cultists (as featured in BSF) would definitely feature, maybe as troops even, although more likely as a Sicarian equivalent I feel.

 Haighus wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

Truth be told, I'm not sure.

But, I am sure that Renegade Guard and Dark Mechanicus are going to be codexes, I just don't know when they'll drop.

This was the rumor at the start of 8th... and since then far crazier things have been released. Dark Mechanicum becomes kinda easy, if GW wants it has all these Daemon Engine models its produced and that in lore the DM are responsible for making. This would just leave the DM troop/infantry and DM techpriest/magos/archmagos equivalents. Its been stated by FW they are going to release DM for Heresy and rumored that rules would eventually be made available for 40k like the Custodes' rules were. Although I've always thought its possible those initial rumors might just have been confused with FW's effort.

It's pretty important both DM and Traitor Guard are distinctive from their loyalist counterparts, as it is Dark Mechanicus already benefit from a distinctive groundwork of Daemon Engines, so they're half way there. Whenever GW does Traitor Guard, I don't think they'll directly call them that; I think they will try to distance them from the 'Guard' as much as possible. Yeah, they'll have some shared units, the lore will mention it, and the models will look the part, but GW will shoot for something more like the "Blood Pact" with all the crazy Stalk-tank type vehicles and all the justification to be more than just spikey IG.

DM would also be a good excuse to make a new plastic Warpsmith- that would be a smart move cos it could be used in two armies.

Negavolt cultists (as featured in BSF) would definitely feature, maybe as troops even, although more likely as a Sicarian equivalent I feel.

Negavolt cultists are basically a halfway point between the two electropriest types.

Plastic warpsmith, Im still waiting for a plastic techpriest.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Do we think we're going to get renegades/traitor guard in this release or do you think they could be post Sisters? They need some mutants and heretics to purge after all.

Truth be told, I'm not sure.

But, I am sure that Renegade Guard and Dark Mechanicus are going to be codexes, I just don't know when they'll drop.

This was the rumor at the start of 8th... and since then far crazier things have been released. Dark Mechanicum becomes kinda easy, if GW wants it has all these Daemon Engine models its produced and that in lore the DM are responsible for making. This would just leave the DM troop/infantry and DM techpriest/magos/archmagos equivalents. Its been stated by FW they are going to release DM for Heresy and rumored that rules would eventually be made available for 40k like the Custodes' rules were. Although I've always thought its possible those initial rumors might just have been confused with FW's effort.

It's pretty important both DM and Traitor Guard are distinctive from their loyalist counterparts, as it is Dark Mechanicus already benefit from a distinctive groundwork of Daemon Engines, so they're half way there. Whenever GW does Traitor Guard, I don't think they'll directly call them that; I think they will try to distance them from the 'Guard' as much as possible. Yeah, they'll have some shared units, the lore will mention it, and the models will look the part, but GW will shoot for something more like the "Blood Pact" with all the crazy Stalk-tank type vehicles and all the justification to be more than just spikey IG.

DM would also be a good excuse to make a new plastic Warpsmith- that would be a smart move cos it could be used in two armies.

Negavolt cultists (as featured in BSF) would definitely feature, maybe as troops even, although more likely as a Sicarian equivalent I feel.

Negavolt cultists are basically a halfway point between the two electropriest types.

Plastic warpsmith, Im still waiting for a plastic techpriest.

Warpsmiths are really more of CSM unit than a DM unit.

As far as techpriests go, there is the enginseer, as well as the new enginseer that was previewed for that one new game... then there was the new techpriest that was released for Kill Team. Are you thinking of something else?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Negavolt cultists are basically a halfway point between the two electropriest types.

Plastic warpsmith, Im still waiting for a plastic techpriest.

The 40k rules the BSF ones got were significantly better than the Electropriests iirc though, hence why I was comparing to an elites unit instead.

Techpriest? Do you mean Techmarine?

 Haighus wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Negavolt cultists are basically a halfway point between the two electropriest types.

Plastic warpsmith, Im still waiting for a plastic techpriest.

The 40k rules the BSF ones got were significantly better than the Electropriests iirc though, hence why I was comparing to an elites unit instead.

Techpriest? Do you mean Techmarine?

They have the same statline and fnp. Plus 1 ws and attack over the corpuscarii, but the same melee weapon and no ranged attack.

And yes, techmarine. Probably never going to get a plastic techmarine now, so waiting on a primaris version.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
And now back to your regularly scheduled rumour engine.

Could it be a reference to an Idoneth Deepkin Shadespire Warband?

I doubt it, though I would like some Deepkin in shadespire.
Shadespire models have ornate bases, but nothing that "flashy." I couldn't even picture a duardin band with that much gold on their base. It seems like it wouldn't fit on the regular sized bases that the models use. Even if they introduce an ogor or something big, it seems like a lot

Maybe sigmar is getting a version of urban conquest, with terrain and new objective markers?

looks close .. probably a dual at some point

more from the second GP

New one is up:



https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/12/the-rumour-engine-12th-march-2019/

Tyranid mind slave? Maybe some nasty Blackstone Fortress gribbly.

 zedmeister wrote:
Tyranid mind slave? Maybe some nasty Blackstone Fortress gribbly.

Now you’re making me hopeful we might see an enslaver

Small part of a plastic Lictor, probably released as part of a Kill Team box?

a new insect race for AoS

Sylvaneth, most likely for an Endless Spell is my guess.

terry wrote:
a new insect race for AoS

That would be disappointing. I was really hoping that the pot o' gold from the earlier spoiler meant there would be an AoS leprechaun race coming.

 H wrote:

terry wrote:
a new insect race for AoS

That would be disappointing. I was really hoping that the pot o' gold from the earlier spoiler meant there would be an AoS leprechaun race coming.

who says there's only one new race for AoS.

It's a forkytail!

Leman Russ's lice

terry wrote:
who says there's only one new race for AoS.

Well, why not kill two birds with one stone? Insect leprechauns sure haven't been done by anyone, as far as I know!

 H wrote:

terry wrote:
who says there's only one new race for AoS.

Well, why not kill two birds with one stone? Insect leprechauns sure haven't been done by anyone, as far as I know!

sounds like a great plan

Outside chance?

Tip of Fulgrim’s tail?

Tip of something Slaaneshi’s tail is what I was thinking..


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 EnTyme wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Jesus guys, lets all calm down.

We’ve learned something here.
That I’m going to consider using an Eidolon as a C’tan, as I’ve been looking for an alternative and when I read that it clicked..

You're welcome.

Wonder if it’s linked to the unresolved insect (Vespid??) wing?

Something Idoneth to go with the treasure horde from a bit ago.

Juvenile Catachan Devil for BSF perhaps?

LordShaft.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/13/chaos-space-marines-focus-the-lord-discordant/

This guy solves the leg, chainglaive and baleflamer rumours:

Um - just saw it.
Holy FETH!!!!

 Redemption wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/13/chaos-space-marines-focus-the-lord-discordant/

This guy solves the leg, chainglaive and baleflamer rumours:

Spoiler:

Snazzy!
Looks like a pain to paint but a dream for conversions



The insect like pic rumour isn't tyranid.
The carapace is completely different in style.
I'd wager it's deepkin and goes with the treasure pic.

I would love to be wrong and plastic Lictors will soon exist, but hey ho.

Looks like the first post isn't being updated.

Warcry Darkoath have whips that match the braiding on a rumour engine pic.

That pincer tail looks like an earwig tail.


If it's Deepkin, I could see it being a crustacean of some sort.
Chaos: Ends with banded armor that could be the underbelly of a snake tail...Fulgrim?

Another Daemon Rumor Engine solved.

Does it come with a Walter Harriman mini?

 Eiríkr wrote:

Darn! Beat me to it. Cannot wait for that guy. Makes me want to build a Word Bearers army.

 Siygess wrote:
Does it come with a Walter Harriman mini?

He would be the soul that powers it.

Trophy rack and power axe solved?

Aren't those the old terminators ?

The back left one has the Chainaxe that we saw with the skull on the back.

 TheGuest wrote:
Aren't those the old terminators ?

No?

Old ones were actually better IMO, save for legs. Just look at heads, instead of 5 varied ones you have same-same horns on each, worse guns and weapons, no trophies from xeno champions, etc, etc...

Old:
New:

Irbis wrote:

 TheGuest wrote:
Aren't those the old terminators ?

No?

Old ones were actually better IMO, save for legs. Just look at heads, instead of 5 varied ones you have same-same horns on each, worse guns and weapons, no trophies from xeno champions, etc, etc...

The sculptural detail of the ornamentation on the legs is definitely cleaner. Given that it's surprising they abandoned using the same sort of details on the sides of the bolters. The heads look like the detail is sharper but you're right they're very much variations on the same head.

Obviously taller like all the other new stuff... Everyone gets tabards... and everyone has that rounded notch cut away on the shoulder pad around that very vulnerable looking spot where arm meets torso.

The rumour engine power fist and trophy rack seem to belong to the terminator on the far left.

Definitely AdMech in flavour

looks like a battle sister vehicle hatch with those fleur de lys hinges

The needle fingered power claw is solved by the right Terminator on the left.

could possible be part of the ironweld arsanel (just look at the steam tank) or any other imperium faction for 40k

If you open the hatch, you get attacked by a squig...

Almost nearly the same as the dunecrawler hatch...

There already was another rumour engine which had element similar from the Dunecrawler.

I'm nearly sure the mechanicus will have another vehicle now.

I suspect this links up with the nodding donkey bit we saw a few weeks back.

Lack ornamentation for me to think it's SoB. Looks more practical than I'd expect.

I'm going with Ironweld.

Is the OP not updating the thread anymore?

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

looks like a battle sister vehicle hatch with those fleur de lys hinges

Looks more like AdMech or Imperial Knights, like the Onager dunecrawler legs:

Or the Armiger legs:

 Redemption wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

looks like a battle sister vehicle hatch with those fleur de lys hinges

Looks more like AdMech or Imperial Knights, like the Onager dunecrawler legs:

Spoiler:

Or the Armiger legs:

Spoiler:

It looks the hatch on the Taurox.

 Redemption wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

looks like a battle sister vehicle hatch with those fleur de lys hinges

Looks more like AdMech or Imperial Knights, like the Onager dunecrawler legs:

Spoiler:

Or the Armiger legs:

Spoiler:

Here is the Onager hatch :


It's too similar to be a coincidence.

I think it's the same as this previous rumour engine :

Yes, the same design can be found on the Taurox hatch.



This makes me hopeful for a new Guard regiment.

The hinges are definitely more AdM.

aka_mythos wrote:It looks the hatch on the Taurox.

So it's defintely a hatch of a non-Astartes Imperial vehicle then.

TheGuest wrote:I think it's the same as this previous rumour engine:

Spoiler:

Possibly, although that could still be an Astartes vehicle. As it looks to have some skimmer/antigrav action going on, it could easily be a new Primaris vehicle.

Just saw a comparison on FB, and I concede that point

AdMech does make the most sense to me. It's probably too early for Sister Of Battle rumour engine pictures to appear (if they even use the arrow in their armour decoration?), and AdMech still has a very limited amount of units compared to most codexes. They don't even have a transport currently outside FW. Emperor knows Imperial Guard has enough tank models.

That new Tech Priest Manipulus and this might be a preview of an updated codex and/or campaign book for AdMech like they did for CSM to add a few new units.

Did a quick knock up to show 2019 rumours so far - feel free to suggest which images are solved and I'll update it:

F1, F2, F3, E1, D3: Greater Posssessed from Shadowspear
B1, E2, E2: Lord Discordant
E4, D1, B2 and possibly C2: new Chaos Terminators

 Redemption wrote:
F1, F2, F3, E1, D3: Greater Posssessed from Shadowspear
B1, E2, E2: Lord Discordant
E4, D1, B2 and possibly C2: new Chaos Terminators

Ta - I have doubts on some of those, but have updated most of it.

F2 is the left foot of F1 at least, that much is certain.

I can imagine waiting for better pics of the Terminators, but as far as I can tell they're:
B2: Lightning claw on terminator in this image:

E4: trophy rack of the left terminator in this image;
D1: power fist of left terminator in this image;
C2: chain axe of second terminator on the left in this image:

F2 is literally the foot in the F1 solution shot.
B2 is the new Terminator kit (see IW preview)

Cheers gents, I see the foot now!

I'll post another update shortly

 zedmeister wrote:
Is the OP not updating the thread anymore?

OP is still on board.

OP did not update every Chaos rumor, as there were too many and mostly solved via the latest releases.

First page will be updated shortly.

 drazz wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Is the OP not updating the thread anymore?

OP is still on board.

OP did not update every Chaos rumor, as there were too many and mostly solved via the latest releases.

First page will be updated shortly.

No worries - feel free to re-use the image I posted

The exhaust pipe on that picture is identical to the Dunecrawler one, too.

My money is on an AdMech rendition of the old infamous rogue trader marine hover tank. AdMech skimmer.

Oh my, if they actually release a version of the Deoderant Tank, this whole Rogue Trader nostalgia kick the studio's been on recently might be worthwhile afterall.

I gave OP the img in pm as he requested but didnt got put on OP ... the new img is low res

OP will have to rehost images, as imgur is work-blocked for many.

Please hold.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh my, if they actually release a version of the Deoderant Tank, this whole Rogue Trader nostalgia kick the studio's been on recently might be worthwhile afterall.

It's been worthwhile from the beginning for me- I love that they are finally doing something with one of the most interesting pieces of lore in the whole setting- but I will admit, a deodorant tank would be aces...

Carlovonsexron wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh my, if they actually release a version of the Deoderant Tank, this whole Rogue Trader nostalgia kick the studio's been on recently might be worthwhile afterall.

It's been worthwhile from the beginning for me- I love that they are finally doing something with one of the most interesting pieces of lore in the whole setting- but I will admit, a deodorant tank would be aces...

That's the thing, for just about everybody who started in 2nd Ed or later(ie, the vast majority), Rogue Trader wasn't really part of the setting at all, it was the old abandoned test version. Personally I think they're on a hiding to nothing, because trying to re-RT 40K at this stage will please almost nobody(in terms of people who actually care about lore that is, the "cool model" crowd will buy whatever is offered if it looks decent, and often even if it doesn't) - it'll never be RT enough for fans of RT, and injecting the RT-inspired "tacticool" stuff dilutes the grimdark.

It's probably worth pointing out that I came into "the hobby" far, far later than Rogue Trader and I'm in love with bringing back more Rogue Trader stuff. (I was lure din specifically by White Dwarf 300 and its awesome Custodes artwork and conversion guide)

I get that its not for everybody, but consumer culture is reactionary- in good times all the music is depressing, in bad times its all uplifting kind of thing.

Take it as a sign of the times as to how 40k skews nowadays, and if you want more grimdark, better hope things get better in the real world soon.

So that checks off:
The Book
The candle backpack
The Chaos Censers
and the Other book

fresh from b&c(sarges)

Edit: ... so far we missing the sorcerer and the havocs
... at this rate I'm not optimistic for new chosen :/

That guy swinging the skull censor can not be both pictures, the flames seem different (plus weird for GW to double up)

There could be two at either end of the chain. So it is possible

 Yodhrin wrote:

That's the thing, for just about everybody who started in 2nd Ed or later(ie, the vast majority), Rogue Trader wasn't really part of the setting at all, it was the old abandoned test version. Personally I think they're on a hiding to nothing, because trying to re-RT 40K at this stage will please almost nobody(in terms of people who actually care about lore that is, the "cool model" crowd will buy whatever is offered if it looks decent, and often even if it doesn't) - it'll never be RT enough for fans of RT, and injecting the RT-inspired "tacticool" stuff dilutes the grimdark.

I started during the 2nd edition, but the Rogue Trader callbacks work for me. I'd much rather have them search inspiration from the Rogue Trader than from the Black Library novels.

 Crimson wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

That's the thing, for just about everybody who started in 2nd Ed or later(ie, the vast majority), Rogue Trader wasn't really part of the setting at all, it was the old abandoned test version. Personally I think they're on a hiding to nothing, because trying to re-RT 40K at this stage will please almost nobody(in terms of people who actually care about lore that is, the "cool model" crowd will buy whatever is offered if it looks decent, and often even if it doesn't) - it'll never be RT enough for fans of RT, and injecting the RT-inspired "tacticool" stuff dilutes the grimdark.

I started during the 2nd edition, but the Rogue Trader callbacks work for me. I'd much rather have them search inspiration from the Rogue Trader than from the Black Library novels.

Bizarre. I genuinely don't get that, it's like preferring a Star Trek show that takes inspiration from Star Wars. The BL novels are of varying quality, but most of them fit thematically and tonally with the setting, while the RT stuff doesn't.

I like it because it helps introduce much needed nuance into the setting, and frankly, I'm more interested in the setting than the game itself .(as I honestly find the game itself rather tedious. I do love the minis though!)

"All war all the time" is a bit boring, as is "all grimdark no hope" kind of trope is equally boring, for me at least.

Some real genuine Human characters who can operate in something of a morally gray area without just being labeled as heretics is awesome. Having characters that are frankly much more relatable than a Post-Human war machine is awesome.

And that's before we talk about the models, which IMO, are.. awesome.

Guys, this is the rumour engine thread.

This guy solves at least 3 (book with candles, backpack, flaming skull)



EDIT: Boy am I late.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

EDIT: Boy am I late.

I hadn't seen that particular picture of him. Thanks.

I actually like these models.

I will propably like the new Dark Apostole with helmet.

Ok, so it only solves one of the skull censers. Wonder where the other one is?

Aren't they the same?

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Aren't they the same?

The flame seems to be coming off in different angles in the two rumor mill pictures. I guess it could be a separate piece, but why preview it twice? Probably is just something different.

When they showed that skull the second time there were lots of people crying “you’ve already shown this!”; cue flippant replies from the WHC team.

 Yodhrin wrote:

Bizarre. I genuinely don't get that, it's like preferring a Star Trek show that takes inspiration from Star Wars. The BL novels are of varying quality, but most of them fit thematically and tonally with the setting, while the RT stuff doesn't.

More like wanting a Star Trek series that takes its inspiration from the Original Series rather than JJ Abrams films. I think that at some point the theme of the setting got lost. It was satire, Imperium was evil, Space Marines were frankenstein monsters doing the bidding of corrupt elite. This may seem weird, but I think Primarchs were a mistake. Connecting Space Marines to the Emperor so closely was a mistake. And certainly making Primarchs heroic deities that rule the Imperium was a colossal mistake. Rogue Trader was more about human sized struggles in an absurd black comedy setting, instead of superhuman heroics of shining demigods, and I really miss that.


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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Aren't they the same?

They seem like the same bit to me, but of course it is impossible to be sure due the angle.

The Lord Executioner solves the stitched flesh rumor engine picture.

Is his axe one, too? Something about it reminds me of a pre-daemon engine rumor.


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So, what else we have left to reveal? One or two pics?

new from b&c (df)

could be a Slaanesh horn(musical kind)

Elf style Vuvuzela for Blood Bowl!

It looks like a Wood Elf(Wanderer) rune although it's weird seeing what looks like a metal horn with gems with their runework on it.

Yeah, I agree on the elvish design. The horn of the daemonettes and other slaanesh affiliated troops always look different.

The loopy swirl design is similar, though not identical, to the ones on those two chitinous things flying past a rock that we got teased a while back.

Clearly malerion's mob.

I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

Marleymoo wrote:
I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

This would be like putting Legions of Nagash and Tomb Kings of Khemri together.

Sylvaneth don't like Wanderers. They blame the Wanderers for the fall of the Realm of Life to Nurgle.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Marleymoo wrote:
I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

This would be like putting Legions of Nagash and Tomb Kings of Khemri together.

Sylvaneth don't like Wanderers. They blame the Wanderers for the fall of the Realm of Life to Nurgle.

Do they? I did not know that, but I haven't kept up with the AoS story. That is an interesting bit of lore though.

Waaaghbert wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Marleymoo wrote:
I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

This would be like putting Legions of Nagash and Tomb Kings of Khemri together.

Sylvaneth don't like Wanderers. They blame the Wanderers for the fall of the Realm of Life to Nurgle.

Do they? I did not know that, but I haven't kept up with the AoS story. That is an interesting bit of lore though.

The TLDR version is that when the Realmgates got 'cut off', some of the Wanderers were doing the whole (y'know) Wandering thing elsewhere. They couldn't get back to the Realm of Life to help fight Nurgle and those who were already there were basically wiped out by the various plagues and the like that Nurgle's incursion brought.

Alarielle thinks the Wanderers betrayed her and the Realm of Life because they died.

Ah, thanks for the quick excursion .

What is with the shadow-kin? Aren't they around somewhere? Could be them, although the horn looks to bright for them, I figure.

Waaaghbert wrote:
Ah, thanks for the quick excursion .

What is with the shadow-kin? Aren't they around somewhere? Could be them, although the horn looks to bright for them, I figure.

Shadowkin are really an unknown quantity. All we know is that they're Malerion's folk and that the Mistweaver Saih and Tenebrael Shard are both supposed to be examples of their race.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Waaaghbert wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Marleymoo wrote:
I reckon it's a Wanderers horn. I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the wanderers and sylvaneth together and released just an updated book and a character. The character would be called "The Caller of the Hunt" or something.

This would be like putting Legions of Nagash and Tomb Kings of Khemri together.

Sylvaneth don't like Wanderers. They blame the Wanderers for the fall of the Realm of Life to Nurgle.

Do they? I did not know that, but I haven't kept up with the AoS story. That is an interesting bit of lore though.

The TLDR version is that when the Realmgates got 'cut off', some of the Wanderers were doing the whole (y'know) Wandering thing elsewhere. They couldn't get back to the Realm of Life to help fight Nurgle and those who were already there were basically wiped out by the various plagues and the like that Nurgle's incursion brought.

Alarielle thinks the Wanderers betrayed her and the Realm of Life because they died.

AOS Rulebook 2.0 in its timelines about events in Ghyran talk about several Wanderer clans in the Realm of Life see the war for the Realm as lost and so abandon the fight and flee to Azyr for safety.

Cataphract wrote:

AOS Rulebook 2.0 in its timelines about events in Ghyran talk about several Wanderer clans in the Realm of Life see the war for the Realm as lost and so abandon the fight and flee to Azyr for safety.

There's a reason I said TLDR version and didn't just type out the whole passage.

I have always found the whole Sylvaneth/Wanderers feud to be a weak lore excuse to explain why Sylvaneth and Wanderers aren't in the same book. GW could just as easily say Nagash invaded and the Wanderers helped fend him off and they are now friend again.

As for the rumor image, it defiantly looks elfish, maybe those light elfs we keep hearing about.

The horn reminds me- that still unknown dragon head is similar to some of the banners and horns on old (1980s) elf models. Not an exact match, but a similar kind of style, as a sort of Germanic/Celtic knock off as often happens with fantasy elves.

 Venerable Ironclad wrote:
I have always found the whole Sylvaneth/Wanderers feud to be a weak lore excuse to explain why Sylvaneth and Wanderers aren't in the same book. GW could just as easily say Nagash invaded and the Wanderers helped fend him off and they are now friend again.

Truthfully, it's better if they aren't. Sylvaneth has become an actual, interesting faction in and of themselves and it gives room for(no pun intended!) a new faction to grow that is something notably different to Wanderers.

I'm with Kan on this one. I like the idea of the Sylvaneth being their own faction made up of fay folk/forest spirits. It leaves a lot more room for expansion beyond just what the old Wood Elves faction had.

A lot of new stuff solved by slaanesh.
The mirror, the whip, the weird chitinous stuff.

 drazz wrote:
Feb 5:

This is from the new Fyreslyer terryn pyce they just pryvywed at Adeptycon.

Lots of reveals

Look at the looncurse trailer. The pixie like thing that the squig eats looks like a rumour engine pic.

Also the new Slaanesh terrain piece has a heap of treasure at the bottom on the base. Most likely the one from after the Daemon Engine was purged.

So the horn might be from as-of-yet unrevealed Slaanesh mortals? (One can hope at least)

All of the other gods got mortal releases. I have a feeling this is just to show “we listened, they’re on their way” and the mortals will show up soon too. I doubt Slaanesh will ONLY have Hellstriders and a resin Lord of Slaanesh (foot and mounted).

Cataphract wrote:
Also the new Slaanesh terrain piece has a heap of treasure at the bottom on the base. Most likely the one from after the Daemon Engine was purged.

Good eye. I think you're right. You can get a decent look at it at 0:25

Lord Kragan wrote:
Look at the looncurse trailer. The pixie like thing that the squig eats looks like a rumour engine pic.

Right - that's the 12th March earwig tail one, and possibly the 15th January wings, too?

Great spot on the flying bug.

Here's mine, how much you wanna bet the Slaanesh terrain piece has that pile of gold with Idoneth artefacts in it?

You can even see the pot right at the bottom, next to the mirror.

guessing new fabius bile mini

though after reading clone lord and primogenitor (I recommend these two books, some of black libraries books) it seems wierd for fabius to be in an emperors children update/book in a way, the dude hates them and has to be blackmailed into working with them. Would be interesting if he had a more mixed faction, so he gets noise marines and basic chaos marines but gets locked out of whatever new units EC gets. Im still holding out for a fabius bile killteam with him, the world eaters apothocary, Igori + the gland hounds and maybe the "female space marine" who hangs out with him.

To be fair, the other "mortal" chaos champions don't get along great with their legion. Ahirman is the reason they're all dust and Magnus exiled him. Typhus caused the Death Guard to be Plague Marines, and he and Mort don't get along. Kharn is known for butchering his own people (which isn't a deal breaker) but he also caused the World Eaters to shatter as a legion. They could easily add a fluff blurb about him working with the Emperor's children again in order to secure more primaris to work on.

With the skin face rumor engine there are four possibilities

Fabius Bile
Heinrich Kemmler
Lucius
Urien Rakarth(I doubt we are getting another standard Haemie yet)

These 4 all have some flesh suit going on for them. I find Fabius and Heinrich the most likely considering that both have some obvious similarities.

Another option are the Necron Flayed Ones.

Are there any AoS factions that get a bit, er, fleshy...?

Flesh Eater Courts are the most obvious. But most Death factions could probably do it. Ogres for Destruction are another. But it's most probably Fabulous Bill with the Chaos kick that's going on right now.

It's gotta be Fabius because I already have bits and models planned out to kitbash him using the new lord of executions. It never fails me

 Eldarsif wrote:
With the skin face rumor engine there are three possibilities

Fabius Bile
Heinrich Kemmler
Lucius
Urien Rakarth(I doubt we are getting another standard Haemie yet)

These 4 all have some flesh suit going on for them. I find Fabius and Heinrich the most likely considering that both have some obvious similarities.

Iirc, there have been a couple of Tomb King rumours as of late.

 Red Corsair wrote:
It's gotta be Fabius because I already have bits and models planned out to kitbash him using the new lord of executions. It never fails me

I will say the same thing as with the rag that turned out to be executioner, it's not Fabius. He is a surgeon, he won't produce anything that looks that garbage if his new model looks anywhere like the old one. If that's EC character, it's Lucius. He even has similar covering on his chest.

 Irbis wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
It's gotta be Fabius because I already have bits and models planned out to kitbash him using the new lord of executions. It never fails me

I will say the same thing as with the rag that turned out to be executioner, it's not Fabius. He is a surgeon, he won't produce anything that looks that garbage if his new model looks anywhere like the old one. If that's EC character, it's Lucius. He even has similar covering on his chest.

Fabius bile has an overcoat cobbled together with swatches of flesh. It ain't exactly a precision piece of tailoring by Valentino

Tenebrael Shard from silver tower has a suspiciously looking patchwork garment...
My guess is Fabius though, or some new creepy enhanced EC elites he created.

Kdash wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
With the skin face rumor engine there are three possibilities

Fabius Bile
Heinrich Kemmler
Lucius
Urien Rakarth(I doubt we are getting another standard Haemie yet)

These 4 all have some flesh suit going on for them. I find Fabius and Heinrich the most likely considering that both have some obvious similarities.

Iirc, there have been a couple of Tomb King rumours as of late.

TK never really did 'flesh suit'.

Fabius and Urien will lead the pack for what it could be. Mandrakes are a possibility as well as Flayed Ones.
Heinrich Kemmler died during The End Times, and if he came back...I doubt he'd be the same as what he was before.

I would, personally, say that it's something for the Aelf faction that the Tenebrael Shard belongs to...but I can't find him on the webstore to post.

Fabulous Billy, or or something Shamanistic for the Darkoath?


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Actually, looking at the stitching, I’m leaning more toward Darkoath. It looks fairly primitive. And for me, Fabulous would take more care?

One of the Warcry factions that we havent seen minis for has a flayed face stretched over a spiked circle as an icon. I'd bet on it being from those guys.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
It's gotta be Fabius because I already have bits and models planned out to kitbash him using the new lord of executions. It never fails me

I will say the same thing as with the rag that turned out to be executioner, it's not Fabius. He is a surgeon, he won't produce anything that looks that garbage if his new model looks anywhere like the old one. If that's EC character, it's Lucius. He even has similar covering on his chest.

Fabius bile has an overcoat cobbled together with swatches of flesh. It ain't exactly a precision piece of tailoring by Valentino

The stitching is very neat on the old model though! It would be a change of character for the worse IMO.

Yeah, I think that's Darkoath. A cannibal tribe would be fun to paint. I reckon a lot of the future rumour engine pictures will be Warcry stuff until it's released.

If you follow the current trend, there is something like a 95% chance that fleshcoat is something completely new and NOT anything existing.

So while I personally would like it to be Fabius Bile and indicate some new stuff coming for Emp's Children, I am not prepared to hold my breath.

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I'm thinking AoS mortal slaanesh

There are robes beneath the cape. I think it is Fabulous Bill. I am thinking a Slaanesh AOS model. Maybe something for WarCry.

 Lockark wrote:
I'm thinking AoS mortal slaanesh

No follower of Slaanesh would ever wear something that poorly stitched.

My bet is new slaves to chaos minis. The Chaos Warriors need an updated kit and I could see that flayed skin being over one of their cloaks, like for a champion/character or something.

Stitching looks almost identical to that of the Haemoculous and Archon cloaks. Think dark eldar is a reasonable guess. For a off the wall guess at it... Vect?

GrinNfool wrote:
Stitching looks almost identical to that of the Haemoculous and Archon cloaks. Think dark eldar is a reasonable guess. For a off the wall guess at it... Vect?

Could be, if GW's learned one thing over the past few years it's that people really enjoy having a big character centerpiece for an army, Gulliman, Abaddon, Magnus, Mortarian.

For what it’s worth, the original Fabius Bile model doesn’t appear to have fabric beneath the skin coat. The rumor engine does. Doesn’t rule out a different interpretation for a new model, but in this case, I think I am going to go with this being Warcry related.

There is a band from warcry with flesh/leather face symbol

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
It's gotta be Fabius because I already have bits and models planned out to kitbash him using the new lord of executions. It never fails me

I will say the same thing as with the rag that turned out to be executioner, it's not Fabius. He is a surgeon, he won't produce anything that looks that garbage if his new model looks anywhere like the old one. If that's EC character, it's Lucius. He even has similar covering on his chest.

Fabius bile has an overcoat cobbled together with swatches of flesh. It ain't exactly a precision piece of tailoring by Valentino

Have you (and for that matter, anyone who proposes Bile) ever seen his model up close?



The stitching is so fine it's virtually invisible, certainly nothing like crude, thick lines on the RE piece, and I don't see it changing because he still looks like that on his two new book covers...

 Irbis wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
It's gotta be Fabius because I already have bits and models planned out to kitbash him using the new lord of executions. It never fails me

I will say the same thing as with the rag that turned out to be executioner, it's not Fabius. He is a surgeon, he won't produce anything that looks that garbage if his new model looks anywhere like the old one. If that's EC character, it's Lucius. He even has similar covering on his chest.

Fabius bile has an overcoat cobbled together with swatches of flesh. It ain't exactly a precision piece of tailoring by Valentino

Have you (and for that matter, anyone who proposes Bile) ever seen his model up close?



The stitching is so fine it's virtually invisible, certainly nothing like crude, thick lines on the RE piece, and I don't see it changing because he still looks like that on his two new book covers...

But if you look close enough you can see it also has a face stiched in.

DE HQ maybe?

I hope so for their sake

In regards to the book cover, would they even be allowed to change the appearance? If they made a new Bile model, then maybe the books would reflect this, but until then, it would have to be based off his current model. (Which would probably still be pretty close to what the new model might look like)

I think the warcry thing might be a good shout as well

most of thing on book cover is just from latest book not being that old, though hopefully that series gets another entry soon. I could see chances of fabius' model changing hes constantly swapping bodies, wouldnt suprise me if he became the only chaos primaris after reverse engineering the process in attempt to stop the blight.

My face after I realized I got my hopes up too soon for plastic flayed ones

zamerion wrote:


There is a band from warcry with flesh/leather face symbol

That's a really good spot, actually. Sign me up for this thoery.

some sort of spirit escaping from (or being sucked into) a magic item

so a Ghost Squig then

Legion of Nagash terrain?

that ghost face looks more like the soul face we see on the Warmaster's sword so I'd wager its got more chance being Chaos than Grand Alliance Death.

it could be some kind of soul catcher for Slaanesh or another one for stormcast

Long shot... lash of torment... since it can change form, multiple tendrils and can have a face, also deamonette is trapped within Lucius paired with the last rumour engine... I’m not a Ec fan but could be
Sorry new to Dakka so might be way off

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


some sort of spirit escaping from (or being sucked into) a magic item

so a Ghost Squig then

nah it's the new stormcast special character "Lord Vankmann"

Aren't Nighthaunt also supposed to come for WarCry? Do we maybe get new sets for Non-Chaos warbands as well?

SKR.HH wrote:
Aren't Nighthaunt also supposed to come for WarCry? Do we maybe get new sets for Non-Chaos warbands as well?

I highly doubt it, as it said the existing factions will be available from the start and that would be 9 new sets from the start.

another one bites the dust ...

how in all hell is he supposed to get that pistol lol

how in all hell is he supposed to get that pistol lol

Thats what the tentacles are for

 Formosa wrote:
how in all hell is he supposed to get that pistol lol

one mystery solved as another is created

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/16/the-rumour-engine-tuesday-16th-april/



Quite stumped.

AOS? perhaps WarCry related?

That looks somewhat similar to the thing ontop of Stormcast helmets.. Not quite, But similar..

Well that could be fething anything...

Piece of scenery.
Maybe Warcry.

The vague shape of stormcast helmet true, but the finish is wrong. Too blocky/bulky

Plastic bone giant headdress

I'm thinking base decoration or terrain of some kind.

It's hard to tell the scale of it from the pic - sometimes we get lucky and judge by visible brush strokes. So could really be anything?

... and another one bites the dust.

That portal looks really bad painted up.

I think it’s the dark colors. I really see Slaanesh being more bright and vibrant colors than this.

Looks like some more Dark Mechanicus stuff might be coming.

looks like something mechanical, my first thoughts where necrons

Tomb Kings return!!

Those kinda look like the bone crests on Nagash. Not 40k material.

Yea it looks similar to the spines off the back of Nagash.

Something Undead (obvs), outside chance (but not that outside) something gribbly chaotic mutant gribble.

Brushstrokes look thick, so I suspect this is a relatively small piece?

Some twin tailed beast? Everything has to have two tails in Warhammer:
Verminlords.
Comets.
That lizardman mount.
Dorghar.
Gryphhounds.

My heart says Tomb Kings sphinx. My brain anticipates disappointment and says Chaos because Chaos having bone tails seems pretty standard.

Could it be more Slaanesh? It looks like the whip/tail things that the Daemonettes are standing on, on that new portal/mirror model.

*EDIT* - I retract my statement, looked at the Slaanesh stuff again and there is a good amount of difference.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Something Undead (obvs), outside chance (but not that outside) something gribbly chaotic mutant gribble.

Brushstrokes look thick, so I suspect this is a relatively small piece?

Maybe a headress if it's not Death related.

Certainly possible.

A Necron Canoptek Character!

(One can always desperately hope!)

My thought was something Tyranid due to the shape of the upper bone ridges


Or perhaps something Ynnari? It has a bit of a wraithbone look

A Banelord tail for Adeptus Titanicus...

I suppose it could be...or at least a generic Mutant Titan tail piece?

Those look a lot like Covens tentacles.

DE Grotesques multi part kit?

Reminds me of Dark Eldar more than anything. Looks like the Khymera tails.

Wonder if it's another beast from War Cry.

 Haighus wrote:
A Banelord tail for Adeptus Titanicus...

Good call there!

I mean, sure, I *want* it to be that, but I still think it is a good guess!

I think Nagash is the closest reference we got. What it actually is is anyone's guess tho.

Nagash’s ex-girlfriend

Daemon Prince Settra

Something slanesh or chaos I recon seeing as thats what they are currently releasing.

DiscoKing wrote:
I think Nagash is the closest reference we got.

Um:

 Irbis wrote:

DiscoKing wrote:
I think Nagash is the closest reference we got.

Um:

Well, yeah, but that’s basically the same style as Nagash, and Nagash’s look closer to the rumour engine, in that there’s multiple and it has shorter bone nubs than the Mortarch mount does.

close up on old rumor engine

Called it yesterday. The winged rumor engine is solved

so is it just me or are GW really pushing out a lot of battleboxes these days?

the more the merrier imho

BrianDavion wrote:
so is it just me or are GW really pushing out a lot of battleboxes these days?

.

Yeah, its an interesting approach. Not sure if I'm sold on the 'one new hero each' approach, but this is a lot more interesting than the last one. At least its more recent models, though I'm not sure why they describe gloomspite vs sylvaneth as 'inevitable.'

Still, the best one so far was Wrath and Rapture (with a bit more new stuff than two heroes).
At least the squigs are new enough to be attractive in their own right.

Do we know the Looncurse pricing (in USD) yet?

Honestly, for anyone who is interested in Sylvaneth?
That box is going to be amazing if you can find someone to split it with.

10x Tree/Spite Revenants @ $37USD per 5($74)
3x Kurnoth Hunters @ $58USD
Arch Revenant(50mm base from the looks of things); guessing at $35-$40.

That's $167 to $172 retail...assuming a $175 pricetag like Shadowspear, locally that comes out to $187.69 with tax for the whole box and $93.84 for halvsies.
And seeing as how Tree-Revenants and Kurnoth Hunters are two of the more expensive parts of the Sylvaneth army...it makes them a hell of a lot more appealing to me!

I actually want the sylvaneth half for my wife and will have zero issue getting ahold of it. If anyone wants the grot half, including special character at NO markup price when it comes out, let me know. I will be getting it at retail price though. Just being up front about it. And shipping would of course, be up to the buyer. Still, should be cheaper than a full split up.

 Alpharius wrote:
Do we know the Looncurse pricing (in USD) yet?

I don't think so.

If it follows Wrath and Rapture/Carrion Empire?
$160.
If it follows Shadowspear?
$175.

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An endless spell, maybe?


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Honestly, for anyone who is interested in Sylvaneth?
That box is going to be amazing if you can find someone to split it with.

10x Tree/Spite Revenants @ $37USD per 5($74)
3x Kurnoth Hunters @ $58USD
Arch Revenant(50mm base from the looks of things); guessing at $35-$40.

That's $167 to $172 retail...assuming a $175 pricetag like Shadowspear, locally that comes out to $187.69 with tax for the whole box and $93.84 for halvsies.
And seeing as how Tree-Revenants and Kurnoth Hunters are two of the more expensive parts of the Sylvaneth army...it makes them a hell of a lot more appealing to me!

Are those all things worth including in the army? (New unknown character aside)
Like, are those "must haves" for a Sylvanneth army? (Either way, they would be for me, since I don't care for the older dryads XD)

Kurnoth Hunters let you measure to the Kurnoth Hunter instead of the character doing a Command Ability, which is pretty damn nice.
Their weapon options are nothing to sneeze at either.

Tree-Revenants are nice, I think most people get some good use out of them?

Dryads are a "musthave" for summoning purposes...but they're so stupid easy to get when you want some Treelords that it isn't a big deal!

So thats another one/two solved

Seeing that the wings aren't part of the main figure and are instead a Beetlesprite Jetpack (TM) makes me like this model much less than I did.

Yeah, I have mixed feelings on it. Still a cool model, but now it has a bug jetpack to go with the revenant tree cyborg body.

You're all nuts, bug jetpacks for life!

The wings being separate makes for good conversion potential for some Eldar exodites, as does the head. It's a very nice model to tear apart though.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You're all nuts, bug jetpacks for life!

Nuts/People of Culture = Potato/Potarto

The Sylvaneth range in general does encompass much of what I dislike about the high fantasy elements of AoS and this is very much representative of that.

As opposed to something like the Idoneth which, to me, are excellent.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You're all nuts, bug jetpacks for life!

An exalt for you, good sir!

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
You're all nuts, bug jetpacks for life!

Nuts/People of Culture = Potato/Potarto

The Sylvaneth range in general does encompass much of what I dislike about the high fantasy elements of AoS and this is very much representative of that.

As opposed to something like the Idoneth which, to me, are excellent.

Really? I'm not big on the high fantasy style of AOS, but besides the weird quiver bugs with trees fused to them, I find the sylvaneth to be more Warhammer-y than other AoS stuff. The Ironjawz are the most Warhammer-y new army, but I feel like Idoneth are a tad too high fantasy for me. Too many fish floating around, the odd blind reavers, and the whole soul stealing theme doesn't appeal to me. They have some great models, and I'd love to convert them up, but change the fluff so they're not undersea dwellers.Some Sylvaneth stuff does look like ghosts in wooden mechsuits (Drycha), but that's not a deal breaker for me. (The bug jetpack, however, does make the model less appealing, but still a cool model.)

I am firmly in favour of the bug backpack. The moon faced spider has to be my favourite part of these kits though.

Something other than Stormcasts or Space Marines on one half of the battle box?

What kind of heresy is this?

GaroRobe wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
You're all nuts, bug jetpacks for life!

Nuts/People of Culture = Potato/Potarto

The Sylvaneth range in general does encompass much of what I dislike about the high fantasy elements of AoS and this is very much representative of that.

As opposed to something like the Idoneth which, to me, are excellent.

Really? I'm not big on the high fantasy style of AOS, but besides the weird quiver bugs with trees fused to them, I find the sylvaneth to be more Warhammer-y than other AoS stuff. The Ironjawz are the most Warhammer-y new army, but I feel like Idoneth are a tad too high fantasy for me. Too many fish floating around, the odd blind reavers, and the whole soul stealing theme doesn't appeal to me. They have some great models, and I'd love to convert them up, but change the fluff so they're not undersea dwellers.Some Sylvaneth stuff does look like ghosts in wooden mechsuits (Drycha), but that's not a deal breaker for me. (The bug jetpack, however, does make the model less appealing, but still a cool model.)

Yes really though it's obviously massively subjective and, in this instance, probably, for me, more down to the execution rather than the success of the initial concept. I'd never argue that Idoneth aren't very much in the High Fantasy bracket and I'd probably err on assembling them with less random fish but I don't see them as particularly being any more esoteric than Sylvaneth based purely on the models. I'd put the latter much higher in the ranking of "high fantasiness" than most other factions bar Stormcast, Kharadrons, Idoneth Like you say; Wooden Mechsuits, personally they do absolutely ruin them for me. The Treekin are fine, if a bit too dynamically posed for my taste and Dryads/Treemen are pre-AoS kits anyway (and rather good ones).

 Crazyterran wrote:
Something other than Stormcasts or Space Marines on one half of the battle box?

What kind of heresy is this?

Is your time machine stuck in 2017? What is Wrath & Rapture, Forgebane, Carrion Empire, etc?

Looks like a gaunlet holding some shaft, could be a hamer, staff. big sword etc.

New Stormcast, likely for Stormvault.

Almost-but-not-quite Space Marine glove? Stormcast, perhaps? Or something for Vanguard marines?

Could it be a Chaos Space Marine hand?

Warcry warband hand? Though, the iron golems have the heavy armor look covered

(Another) Marine with a thunder hammer.

Almost looks like a back image of the blackstone thunderhammer chaos lords arm.

Obviously looks like a lot of things, but looks a lot like:

Yeah, clawed finger look didn't really fit SM or Stormcast, good find...

Good spot right there.

Teaser for new Slaves to Darkness then? With all the Darkoath stuff trickling out over the last few years, and now with War Cry on the horizon, it would make a lot of sense.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New Stormcast, likely for Stormvault.

With a stormcast pole vault

I love backpack bug, personally.

 Haighus wrote:
Teaser for new Slaves to Darkness then? With all the Darkoath stuff trickling out over the last few years, and now with War Cry on the horizon, it would make a lot of sense.

That is my bet.

Apparently there's that Varanguard on foot that's popped up in discussion in the past. Maybe him?

its a chaos something, either AOS chaos or 40k chaos, but still clearly chaos.

 Formosa wrote:
its a chaos something, either AOS chaos or 40k chaos, but still clearly chaos.

Looking thru all of the new 40k Chaos models, none of them have a taloned gauntlet like that. So I think I personally would put my money on AoS chaos.

I have a feeling the hand belongs to Varanguard infantry or maybe resculpted warriors of Chaos. It could also be something from Warcry.

Also seems unlikely, but could be something for Emperor's Children.

I am actually thinking it is something Warcry related.

Another engine solved

That looks like a Tyranid, but seems AoS setting. It's awesome, whatever it is! I want one.

And I'm hoping for Varanguard on foot; I have one box of the cavalry (don't worry, I didn't pay for it-it was in a trade to a store). Beautiful models, too bad the rules are rotten.

It's one of the Sylvaneth's Endless Spells, called a "Gladewyrm".

It's Sylvaneth? Sweet. Looks like my wife is getting one, whether she wants it or not!

When did we see anything about Varanguard foot infantry? That's something I've sorely wanted for some time. Like, since the first ones were released.

That hand really does seem like one.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
When did we see anything about Varanguard foot infantry? That's something I've sorely wanted for some time. Like, since the first ones were released.

That hand really does seem like one.

If I remember correctly, it was mentioned with regards to WarCry.