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Post by: whalemusic360
Revived after a long break, see http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/510/301044.page#5286255 for new posts and considerably better painting.
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Post by: vodo40k
All very nice, but did you use washes on your mins?
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Post by: Great Unclean One
Models looking good, and also, did you sculpt the fallout kid and robot at the end?
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Post by: Joetaco
yeah man they look pretty good, but if i may make one suggestion...
vodo40k wrote:All very nice, but did you use washes on your mins?
Washes make minis look like 3 times as good ( imo) I'm a pretty new to painting (or bad at it  ) and washes make my minis look good.
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Post by: vodo40k
Its just dante and the term chaplain look very "unwashed".
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Post by: whalemusic360
Dante is washed, the gold doesnt photograph very well. The Termi chaplin isnt, as I wasnt sure how to wash black
Vault Boy is a keychain. I took out the screw and greenstuffed the hole (that sounded dirty). Slag (the Autobot) is an OLD eraser from when G2 came out. He is still very bendy.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Quick update: I got 1 1/2 Assault Marines mostly done. The 1/2 is because I forgot to prime the jump pack, so one is missing. That and a bit more touch up and they are good to go. OH and basing, but Ive been waiting to do a few dozen at a time so they look the same. They were going to be Dark Angels, but I never use them in that army and do in BA, so they got red. The DA pad came out pretty good in BA colors
Also decided my camera sucks, as the pics dont really look like they do in person, but im not buying a new one so I'll have to live with it
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Hey Whalemusic!!!
Welcome to the show! Now that you've got your own P&M blog you can....
1. Post your progress.
2. Get great advice on improving your models and skills from lots of great people.
3. Feel like you need to act on that advice and "fix" your figures (this is a good thing)
4. Post pictures of the fixed models so people don't think you're blowing them off and quit giving you advice.
5. Feel guilty whenever you do anything that is NOT working on your minis because your readers haven't seen anything new in a while.
6. Go back to working on your minis.
Did I leave anything out??
Oh yes... actually having the time to play the game and having a life... I did leave those out.
...
...
...
*grin*
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Post by: moonshine
looks cool and to wash black somtimes i highlight and then wash with badab black if i want a very dark looking model
keep up the good work
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Love the combi-plasma... is that in the fig or did you do that?
You might try altering your black just a bit so it's not quite pure black, then you can hit it with Badab Black for those deep tones & give it some dimension. There's a cool P&M featuring some "black orks" (40k orks in black armor) and his "black" is excellent. It's mixed with just a bit of blue to bring the tone down a bit... but it's still black by any estimation. You could wash over that and then get the depth you want out of the paint job. Unfortunately I can't find it at the moment... but it was a mix of black and just enough medium blue to pull the shade down a couple of notches but still be within the realm of "black".
The way I do my shading (which you've seen and commented on plenty) is fairly simple..
base color
wash
base color again on the interior of the plates
Progressive shades up on progressively smaller sections of the plates
very light edging on the sun-ward parts (if you want)
You don't need to do too many "shades up" beyond the base, you just want to set a good contrast between the washed base around the edges of the plate on the center of the plates... so they "pop" a bit.
If you're going to go this route, thin your paints.
You might also experiment with washes until you find the one (or a combination) that work best. Red, Sepia, Delvan Mud & Thraka Green are all viable options for red.
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Post by: whalemusic360
On the Red I use 1-2 coats of Baal Red, and on the Gold I use 2 coats of Sepia.
I did actually get some painting done tonite, but it was just some gold on 2 sang guard. I'll post pics tomorrow.
I've got some Death Company to do, they can be after the Sang Guard. I'll try some different blacks, see if I can find a more defined one. The main reason I have yet to try is that I like my black armor to be black. I HATE the Eavy Metal models that are really dark blue.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I'll keep looking for that blog I lost... his armor was black, not blue... but there was just enough blue in it to make it slightly off-black... dunno, but I don't know how to do anything shading or otherwise to pure black. Even highlights can be tricky.
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Post by: DRAGOONS
the libby with the hood and the giant sword looks fantastic, did you convert him from something or is it just a model i've never seen before?
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Post by: whalemusic360
The CombiPlasma is the DA company master, its from his elbow up.
The Libby is the dark angels cheif libby, who is indead badass looking. DA libbys only have 2 powers to choose from, and he has 3.
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Post by: Anpu42
Where did you get the Autobot?????
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Post by: whalemusic360
Anpu42 wrote:Where did you get the Autobot?????
They are called Decoys, they go for about $12 on ebay.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Got a bit more color on the sang guard, but nothing photo worthy. I got a bit distraced by Transformers: War for Cybertron. I've got a wedding I'm in this weekend, but after that I should have more project time.
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Post by: TempusCorvus
with the Terminator Chaplain, use a Devlan mud wash on all the gold, bone, and parchment. It works like a charm.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Here's the blog with the orks w/ black armor... I'm not sure I like his blue highlights... but the black itself is very good.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/297929.page
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Post by: whalemusic360
I got the Sang guard done, except for the banner. I'll post some pics when I get home.
Not liking the blue highlights, but the matte black is cool. I think Ill try some greys. Automatically Appended Next Post: Alrighty, picture time.
This guy has the Company Champion Body. I also put the wings further up on him so they could have a more extreme angle.
The Standard came out ok, but it was a huge pain in the ass, so thats as good as its getting.
This is the first sterguard I converted. I have the 5 metal ones, but wanted 10. Basing provided by AoBR and the sword is the company champions. The backpack is from Cypher.
And lastly for tonite, I got a marine today from Porkuslime for a project hes doing. Got rid of all the blood droplet traces, he will be a blood drinker when finished, with lots of challaces.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
OK, I like those a lot. As always your figure constructions skills are excellent, and the paint jobs on these seem much more delicate that the last ones & let the detail show through better. Good job.
Not sure how you did your gold, but it might benefit from a little additional contrast. You might consider adding some mithril silver to whatever your gold is and adding some highlights to crank up the volume a little bit. Really dynamic poses though.... makes the figures.
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Post by: GlauG
Lots of TF fan/ 40k player crossover it seems.  I once walked into my local GW wearing the same Autobot shirt as one of the staff who was "off-duty". >_>; Particularly loving the GKT-turned Terminator Librarian, and the plastic Sternies.
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Post by: whalemusic360
GlauG wrote:Lots of TF fan/ 40k player crossover it seems.  I once walked into my local GW wearing the same Autobot shirt as one of the staff who was "off-duty". >_>; Particularly loving the GKT-turned Terminator Librarian, and the plastic Sternies. 
Always cool to see all the TF fans on this board, but I rarely see 40k fans on the TF boards, which is odd. The GKT is actually Belial, I wanted something different from everyone else.
My gold is actually all drybrushed Burnished gold, Shining gold, Mithril Silver, more Burnished gold, more Shining gold, and Serphia wash a few times. My photo skills suck, but they have quite a bit of depth to them.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
That should do the trick, must be the photos...
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Post by: nielsen333
some of your conversions are just great
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Post by: whalemusic360
So it's been hot as hades here, and we dont have air conditioning, so I've been to damn hot to do much painting. That being said I do have a bit I got done over the weekend.
The drop pod is mostly done, still needs detailing though, so keep that in mind. It's for my Sterguard, so I gave it a bit of gold up top. And no, I dont have any of them painted yet. Or even put together really......
The only other thing I've got around to was a bit of....well......something
My brother and I were thinking, and we decided there had to be something we could do with all these sprues. So we figured why not make a new army out of em. I introduce the first Hormasprue. Tecnically they will even be Tourny legal as they are 100% GW product. They only real problem is that I will run out of bases, so if anyone knows a super cheap spot to get some (of all sizes) please let me know. The other problem is I dont know which name to give em, Spruenids or Tyrasprues.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
What color did you prime the drop pods with? Painting over black with red is a real b-*% ch. I'd recommend a white primer... really cranks up the volume of the red and makes it a 1-and-done paint job for your base color. You can always tone it down afterwards with a wash if you want.
I definitely love the sprue army idea... spruanids are my name of choice.
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Post by: Lasfiredoesn'thurt
Hey man, it was already said above but the poses and model construction are incredibly dynamic; they really make the models. Excellent stuff there.
Go Hormasprues! haha hilarious idea
-Lasfire
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Post by: whalemusic360
Yeah, I primed it black. Havent been able to find a white that I like. My last 2 cans of GWs sucked big time, came out super chalky or had to waste half a can to get it smooth. Anyone got some good, not super expensive alternatives?
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Post by: Brotherjulian
Don't waste time or money on GW's spray paints. Ever. Go to Walmart, or a home improvement store. Anything by Krylon or Rustoleum will be great and they make white primer. I've always used the light gray stuff myself but white will bring out brighter colors
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Post by: whalemusic360
Ive got some grey ColorPlace and had flat black from wallyworld, but I shall investigate a white. Also I am picking the "auto enhanced" option from dakka, maybe I shouldn't.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Krylon makes a perfectly good flat white primer for a couple of bucks, available at most discount or hardware stores. Don't waste your money on the overpriced "gaming" primers. The exception to this is Army Painter's colored primers, which are fantastic. Both my Mantis Warriors (both color variations) and my orks are done this way. Instant primer and base coat in only 1 coat of paint. You might experiment with the red or yellow (always go with the lightest color)... it would save you a step anyway.
I stopped using the auto adjust a while ago.. it cranks up the contrast and saturation of the photo, which I'm sure helps with some cameras, but if your's is half-way decent it only makes the photo more severe looking... getting you useless comments on the paint job that don't apply IRL.
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Post by: ChaoticMind
I use sprays made for plastic model specifically and never have trouble. Hobby Lobby caries Testors sprays all of which will work for primer on plastic and the true primer sticks to pewter. Flow-quil white primer also goes on smooth.
Look for a proper hobby store, A.K.A. not Hobby Lobby, some where that sells plastic models, or model trains. Usually they carry Tamiya and Testors paints. Both stick to plastic, are reliable, and high quality products if you follow standard procedure.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I have no hobby store anywhere in a 30 mile area
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Do you have a car? Are you old enough to drive?
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Post by: whalemusic360
Am I to poor to spend $10 in gas to get $10 in paint?
Plus the one time I have been there they were Mega-Douchebags. Not sure of any other ones in the area.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Well, you could try and combine the trip to the shop with other errands in the area, so you're not spending the whole sum on gas just for the primer.
Or, you just go here... http://www.thearmypainter.com/ & let them ship it to you. That way you don't spend $10 in gas.... just.... $10 in shipping.
See?? All fixed...
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Post by: whalemusic360
Yeah thats totally better.......
Maybe I'll just wait and but like 30 cans.
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Post by: porkuslime
I use Krylon spray on just about EVERY model I do.. Primer in white, black, and khaki, as well as russet. Only MINOR issue is that the paint chemically bonds to plastic, so stripping is a mother..
I also use Krylon Matte seal and satin gloss..
And just about every can at my local Wally Mart runs me $2.75 a can.
If the US Mail would let me, I would send ya some!
(or the next time you hit Newark, get some!)
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Post by: whalemusic360
Ive got a walmart close, i'll hit it up when I get a chance.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Got some gaming in today, we played 3 games in my basement. I played in 2 of them and won both.
Some WIPs for all you blog goers out there. 1st is my metal furioso dred. Did a bit of repositioning and gave him some basing and a rhino door in one hand. Tried to make it look like he just pried it off (not sure why but whatever).
2nd is Porkuslime's Soul Drinker. He wanted it to look showroom fresh, so its almost glowing red at this point. I will be adding some highlights and doing detail soon.
Last is another Sprueanid, this time a Spruelord (Broodlord). Not much to say, but I think they are pretty funny, so feel free to have a giggle with me. I've decided on a color scheme for them, sprue grey.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I like the furioso ripping apart his own troop transports... perhaps you should call him "Mr. Furioso" a-la the movie "Mystery Men".
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Post by: whalemusic360
I was thinking Jerry actually.
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Post by: Yggdrasil
whalemusic360 wrote:The only other thing I've got around to was a bit of....well......something

Automatically Appended Next Post: Sorry to go back on them, but this is some of the most hilarious thing I've seen in my 15 years of wargaming!!!
You even managed to make my girlfriend laugh, which is something I never achieved with my gremlins!!!!
Hope you'll get the faith to carry out your task as the Spruhive Mind!!!
Cheers,
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thats pretty much the pose he was supposed to be.
Glad she (and you) got a kick out of it, thats what its supposed to be for. I'm a bit scared to start a hoard army that is all scrach built, but I'll give it a shot. Have to pick up the new dex as well, but that, glue and bases will be all they cost (maybe 25 cents each if i can get some bases cheap from ebay).
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Post by: WarPetrie
at first when i saw SM with wings i thought of Dark Angels  well Blood Angels are just as good XD lookin good so far though i like your combi metla conversion very nice
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Post by: Popsicle
I'll put in an Order for 20 Hormasprues.
Nice work so far. I'll keep an eye on the Topic.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I actually will be doing DA as well, I have 6500ish points already painted (they still need highlights though) and as much WIP. Stay tuned and they will show up as well.
Actually after I finish up the drop pod and Blood drinker I have a green Land raider to finish up.
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Post by: SoloFalcon1138
I'd like to see more of that Belial conversion. I am working on one myself using that exact same model and even the same DA head!
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Post by: whalemusic360
I'll take some more pics of him next time I break out the camera (tonite probally) and give an explination of what I did with him.
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Post by: Vindicator#9
Ahh busy i see in middle of nowhere land. Nice work on all your stuff so far and really like how the sprueanids are comin along. Hopefully get to talk to you some more at a future tourney in Nerk when you are able to make it again.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
HAHA, just found your thread WhaleMusic and felt the need to post.....
...but its early here and I've got nothing relevant to say :(
Really glad to see your putting your work up though and I'll be watching.....
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Post by: whalemusic360
Woot for more pics!
Ok, Solo asked for some more pics of Belial. He started as the pointing GK. I dremmeled out his head and added the hooded non-effed up head, hacked of the rainbow thing on his pads, hacked off the stupid D things on his joints. Added (obviously) wings from the pegasus (I think? They came from eBay, so not sure). Cut the pike up and gave him a sword from the Ravnwing sprue and used a purity seal to connect to he ribbons on the handle. Added the little winged hood school thing on the bottom. Added the DA icon on the pad, painted red. Lastly I added the feathers from the DA assault cannon to the storm bolter. And thats it, as if its not enough. He was one of the first major conversions I did, so he may get a V2.0 at some point.
Got Porkuslimes blood drinker more or less done. A bit of detail and touch up and he gets sent back.
I had a slashed up legs from the Sternguard crushing the ork, so I decided to make a leg to replace it. I'll add some wire to it later. Not a bunch for me to say. Its the 1st I've tried.
And some new DA love, a WIP Land raider. FW door, FW purity seals on front hatch, and FW eagle on the side. Magnitized side sponsons.....its a land raider, so...... yeah
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Post by: whalemusic360
BH - Glad you found it! I stole the sternguard-ork-stomper from your sabertooth marine on the rock.
V9 - We will be comming back for sure, lemme know when some non-super-competative games are in the neighborhood, or maybe just a day trip at some point.
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Post by: Atre
Oh wow.
I love these conversions on the marines & dread (also Sprucenids are awesome).
The paintwork is very neat (as in precise) have you thought about using multiple layers to shade/highlight or using washes?
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Post by: monkeytroll
OK, please stop messing about with those silly 'rheens and concentrate on the spruenids
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Great work WM... like the robotic leg, sternguard looks cool... kind of trotting across the battlefield.
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Post by: whalemusic360
That Soul Drinker actually has a bunch of layers of paint, but no wash (person I painted it for specifically requested NOT to) but all of my red rines are. I think my camera/photography just sucks. Next time i send stuff to Git, I'll throw one in just so someone can take a real pic.
My DA do not get washed, just hard edged. Tried one and didn't like it on them, just felt meh. Well, thats BS, the Deathwing gets a watered down brown wash (can't think of the name, its the foundation one).
Put together a very busy conversion tonite, but don't want to show it yet, I'm not sure if I am sold on it. Teaser: Brother Sepharan.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Have you tried the extreme highlight thing on the armor edges? Seems to me that what everybody keeps commenting on is a lack of contrast, and I know from your previous posts that you do work on that... but it's just not translating through. Might be the photo... will know more when I have one in hand.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I did some extreme highlights on the soul drinker (Orange red 1:1) for contrast, but havent done any one my BA, mostly because I thinke they look dumb when the turn orange.
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Post by: porkuslime
Harsh words.. lol.
If you do a wash that compliments the red, as opposed to a black wash that makes the marine look "dirty" I would be cool with that.
My worry with washing miniatures is that the figures look more "out on campaign for 2 weeks" as opposed to "just spent the last 2 weeks polishing and waxing the armor" which is what I am kinda looking for.
-P
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Post by: whalemusic360
Ahh, no worries, I use Baal Red on my reds anyways, maybe I'll give it a bit, may be to late tho. What do you think of your guy? I'm going to leave the scroll on his pad and the talberd (or whatever its called) clear of writing if you want to put something on it to bring the unit together, or a specific name or whatever. I'll have to leave off the matte spray as well, but I imagine you could handle that. What chapter(s) do you actually play?
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Post by: porkuslime
I personally play variant Space Wolves (pics in my gallery here) and vanilla SM (Omega Chapter)..
But I also have Nids, Orks, SoBs, Tau and Eldar painted.. and working on Necrons and Daemons.. (no OCD here I swear!)
I don't mind if you put "writing like squiggles" on the scroll .. I will be naming him and putting his chapter on the base later on..
The army will be based and have a cohesive shoulderpad to tie it all togeather..
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Post by: whalemusic360
So you have like no armies at all then, got it
Ill have to return the favor and get you to paint me up some of your dudes as well. Several of us on Gitsplittas blog are talking about doing some model swapping, might be a good spot for you to pick up some more for your project as well. I think I got volintold to make a new blog about it, so keep an eye out for that.
I should get him done in the next day or two and get him back to ya, for some reason I've been in the mood to do modeling instead of painting this week.
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Post by: porkuslime
I would love to participate in a model swap.. however, any of my "get of Freki" guys will have to be modified from my original models.. the OOP SW shoulderpad I have on all the guys is just too darn hard to find nowdays.. (although there is a similar one in the current wolfpack box that is close enough)
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Post by: whalemusic360
I have some OOP SW stuff, I'll check and see if there are any pads. I think its just bodies mostly.
Said model swap now has its own blog, for us to share and swap and all that fun stuff! Just like a regualr PM blog with all the fun of several people doing different things, should be interesting!
And I forget the link
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/305404.page
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Post by: whalemusic360
Started building my gamming table tonite, I'll grab some pics of it to share with my adoring fan (aka, me)!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Ah, some action! Good! OH, your marines arrived! Thing 1 will begin the process ASAP. Do you want them based as we would base them or would you like the bases left plain so you can make them match your schemes?
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Post by: porkuslime
If you are talking about the Marine I sent along for thing1, I would like the base left plain.. primed ok.. and that right arm shoulderpad... keep it missing!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
You bet! I was going to ask you about that. Death company?
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Post by: whalemusic360
You mean Deathwatch? Death Company is the BA unit. Mine can be based away as he does his (Its the one with the primed body).
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Deathwatch, Death Company.... WhoTF cares... just more supermen in black perpetrating violence on unsuspecting non-conformists...
So typo aside, he can base yours, but leave porkuslime's plain so he can make it match the rest. What is it with you guys from Ohio and your usernames??? Sheesh! Next guy I meet from ohio is probably going to be called "AchingPudknocker" or something equally as ludicrous...
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Post by: whalemusic360
LOL, you are alowed to shorten it, I do with everybody's name. Porks, Git, WM, V9, whatever. Im lazy and therefor creative.
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Post by: porkuslime
and mine is a fine refernce to a can of SPAM.. nothing lewd here bucko
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I never said lewd... just long and incomprehensible. :-)
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Looking good as always Whalemusic...especially that last guy he looks promising
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice work WM, good to see some new material. I agree with Blackhand, last one looks very interesting, though I must admit to being quite fond of the mace.
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Post by: Remos
quantity is quality on its own, right?
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Post by: Pika_power
I want to see an entire army of Spunids.
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Post by: Ma55ter_fett
Once upon a time I was going to make DA my first army but instead for some reason (fluff mostly) went with BT and I don’t really regret the decision.
Still seeing you DA stuff makes me think of what might have been… *sigh* someday maybe when money grows on trees they shall be my second army.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Well the painted guys arent actually new, or done (no highlighting). And as far as the quality goes on some of the minor detail, they were some of my first models. I do plan on going back to touch them up (and dust them, gross!) but have SSSOOOOO many other models to do, it'll be awhile.
You can actually get DA pretty cheap. The "upgrade" pack comes with enough to make 10 guys for like 22 bucks! Don't get the DA Vets EVER! you get 2 of the same sprue in the upgrade kit, just not the sprue with the meltagun on it, and it costs like $8 more! No special weapons or anything on the upgrade other then power weapons and fists, but with what you probally have from doing BT, you can make a small army rather inexpensivly.
Im hoping that wasnt ment to be a insult Remos, because if you are going to insult people on dakka without helpful critisism you probally will want to look elsewhere for your 40k fix.
The bottom guy is for Blackhand, and the other is for Ice Angel for the marine swap.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
whalemusic360 wrote:
Im hoping that wasnt ment to be a insult Remos, because if you are going to insult people on dakka without helpful critisism you probally will want to look elsewhere for your 40k fix.
QFT
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Post by: whalemusic360
This needs an update, so here are my 2 guys that are done thusfar.
Ice Angels guy. Decided to give freehanding on the pad a go. I'm very happy with, but would like some feedback. I know the sword isnt perfect, but it was try #1 on doing it. Otherwise, yeah, there ya go.
2nd is BLACKHANDs duder.
So heres a story for ya, I was totally done, except for the little wicks on the candel. I had it brown and decided to wash it black. I knock the friggin thing over and dump half of it on my table...... ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Anyways, whatchas think?
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Looking good brother, can't wait to see him in person.
I should have a pic of your sabre legion marine in his final paint tonight sometime
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Post by: whalemusic360
I have written down that you didnt want a shoulder pad on the one side. Thats correct, right?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice job WM, they're lookin good.
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Almost forgot to mention, my Land Raider is just needed its guns finished up and thats done and my gamming table is built, has sand glued, and started making a road on it (trying an experement there, will post the details if it works how I want), then all it needs is paint and shes good to go as well.
Next up: DA for Solar Lion and DA for Sageheart, as well as a DA specific Plasma Cannon dude because someone asked what it looked like and I was too lazy to look for a pic, so I figured I'd paint mine up.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Yep no shoulderpad on the right arm thanks, cheers
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Post by: monkeytroll
Sure, as you say it's new to us. Not so bothered if it's just a 'missed a spot under the armpit and have now touched it up', but stuff like highlights, slight colour change, tidying up of areas I'd like to see.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Looking good WM, sure... post whatever you've got! The more you show the more we can oooh and aaah over it!
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Stuff looks great, but lemme get this straight.....You're library has White Dwarfs? Are you serious? Lucky!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Yeah, someone must of requested them at some point. Not sure if they still do, its been years sence the last time I was there. Automatically Appended Next Post: Well, I was going to wait untill tomorrow so it showed up fresh and new, but whatever.
Land Raider is finished, 4 down 3 to go, ugh. I still have to detail Land Raider 1-1 and Land Raider Helios 1-1, as well as make a Land Raider in Deathwing colors, a LR Terminus Ultra, and another Crusiader in DW colors.
Also touched up a scout. Redid the face to not-suck and edged the green.
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I love your Dark Angels! I really hope they get a new dex someday. When is construction going to start on the spruegon? (Trygon) OH OH! I could really use a Spruevigon if you have the time Automatically Appended Next Post: How did you do the eyes on the scout above this post? Mine always end up looking like sloth from the Goonies...
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Post by: whalemusic360
We've been messing with some more sprueanids, I think they may need their own thread. Really want to get a bunch of the clear sprues from Valk, fire prism etc.
I have an Army painted (I think) Insane Detail brush coupled with like 359 trys. Mostly the brush tho.
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I'll have to get a brush like that so this stops happening to me...
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HEY YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice job WM. Really like the scouts... they're green like mine, but they don't look quite as good so they don't show mine up.
(big grin) *poke* *poke*
Seriously, nice cean job on the LR and love the contrast... and the scout does look good. Excellent job re-painting the head.
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They look good! I really like the dread. You should def do a blue necron army! I really like the scarab.
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ibid....
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Hu? ibid?
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Yup, love the blue scarab!!!
Also, where do the plates with battles' names come from? Are they part of the Ven Dread kit?
Either way, that makes for a truly awesome "memorial" aspect to the Dread... Nice!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Yup the leg plate and guns with the words are from the Ven Dred. Its quite a good kit, I got it to make (most) of a Libby Dred, all but the force weapon.
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You should make your own forceweapon!
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Apparently Zorro has visited on your Predator! : D
Me like that Dred very well!
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Yeah the FW rhino bits have the break on the swords like deathwing, and Im not good enough with GS to fill it. Never made sence to me either.
On a side note, If anyone has some AoBR Dreds they want to sell super cheep, lemme know. I really dont even need the arms if they are nowhere to be had. I feel like a 40k elitest, but those are the only pieces from AoBR I still like, the others are just to static (good to try new paint schemes on tho).
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I agree that the AoBR stuff looks pretty static but it is leaps and bounds better than the BFM (Battle for Mccragge) set. Those were the definition of static. No seriously, look in the dictionary they are under appendix 4
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Yeah I sent the Maccragge marines I had to Gitsplitta for thing 1 to use and experiment on. I think I may disembowel some AoBR dudes and just use the legs
Maybe the heads too
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Post by: tony_nids_10
NNOOO!!!!! Don't pillage them! Send em my way  How am I ever going to get to work on my homebrew chapter if I don't have any marines? Automatically Appended Next Post: Oddly enough, my homebrew chapter would fall under the category of " SMs with wings"
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Post by: whalemusic360
Dang now I have to cut one up at least! Thought It might give me a few extra leg variations. My Black reachers spend as much time in simple green as they do anywhere else, lol.
Should I make a new thread for spruanids? It wont get updated very much (only when Im REALLY bored), but not sure how many people would look in a SM thread for something like those.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Go for it! I'll follow a spruanid thread!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Yeah, free the spruanids from the oppressive regime of the marines
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I've been eagerly chanting spruanids for about a day and a half now and still I have seen no link... It's a sad sad day for spruanids everywhere.
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Lol, havent got any fresh pics yet, but worry not, they are comming.
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YES!!
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Ladies (Doubt it) and Gentlemen (still, kinda doubt it) tonight I present to you the end results of some trading done via the interwebs.
First I give you a Forge World Venerable Drednought from the Dark Angels Chapter. I purchased this off of ebay used, along with the company master with the big honkin sword, for a massive $25. Some simple green, and I give you this!
Whats that you say? Blood angel colors? Thats right folks, a master of a thousand battles, warrior of the time of Sanguinious himself, is a Blood Angel.
I rarely use Dreds in my DA army and use them alot in my BA army, so...... TADA!!!!!!! He is missing a claw and a toe (came with them, but got lost somewhere along the line). Also featured is a wrecked rhino front that was aquired in a trade from Rurouni Benshin, along with some other vehicles, which we will get back to. I practiced some basic weathering to make it look like its been there for awhile. Anywho, once the base is totally finished in the same colors as the previous dreds it should really pop.
Second in our fabulious show tonight is a piece of terrain I'm working on. A Preditor that has been long distroyed and forgotten, first imobalized by dangerious terrain, then exploded by the enemy of mankind, it has long sat in this location, waiting to see battle again.
This is another vehicle in the trade for Rurouni Benshin, along with two other vehicles, a Whirlwind and Vindicator, which I managed to salvage (they were in BAD shape). This one, well, couldnt be. This Preditor will be in the same colors as the hull on the base of the dred. Truely, they will be two pieces of one piece. The reason for the colors is that Rurouni plays Ultramarines, specifically of the 3rd company. From this point forward all the marines on this style of basing (and the terrain for my table, same colors) will be of the 3rd company, remeants of a long lost battleforce.
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Post by: Rurouni Benshin
Glad you were able to salvage them, whalemusic! FYI, I'm giving you a +1 on the reputable list now.
Can't wait to see more pics!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Cool thanks! I put you up the same day they got here! It was some work to get them to "passable" levels, had to do some track stealing from mister wrecked to do it. The one in the terrain is actually the WW, I just managed to get the turret off.
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Hi Whalemusic
I just read through your thread and im very impressed  .
Love the Termasprue  .
6500 Points painted Dark Angels wow!
Good luck with your future projects, im looking forward to see them.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Great job on the dread WM! Wish I could see the detail on the shoulder plates better (glare).
That's a good use of a busted vehicle... must have crashed in a silver mine eh?
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Sorry, I took a bunch of pics of the front plates, but they all came out blurry. I dont think my camera liked the gold that close. I'll try some more later.
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Post by: Armorum Ferrum
Cool dread Whale ! I cannot wait for a FW BA dread !
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No joke, I need two of em, one for BA and one for DA in return for this one. I do have another DA one, but I think it will end up being DA for real.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Ewwww a week from last update, wtf is that about?
Here is the Vindicator that I got from Rurouni Benshin. All it needs is a storm bolter and shes done!
Lots more freehand then normal. Also did some GSing on the back, converted from a DA bit.
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Post by: Lord of Change
That looks EPIC!!!
Very nice freehand on the blood drops. And the highlighting looks great. Lookin forwards to more updates.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice WM, you can paint my tanks any time!
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Post by: whalemusic360
I actually like painting tanks, lol. I have several more to go, so stay tuned!
For BA: a Vindicator, another Vindicator, a rhino, another rhino, a Preditor, a Baal Preditor, and a Whirilwind
For DA: a Land Raider, a Land Raider Crusaider, and a Land Raider Terminus
Also, just got my second Space Hulk for the BA, so they will be done up sometime soon. Ill put my 1st ones side by side with em. Im depressed on how much I have to paint.
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If the dread is so heavy, why did you need to add the weight? He should be centered enough on the base that he doesn't fall over... Just curious.
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Well most of the weight is in the body, which is high up, plust the arm is raised. That with the basing, which puts him almost an inch up already, made him kind tippy.
Plus my GSing him at an angle didnt help.
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Got it... thanks!
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Depends - do you want him back this year?
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It would be nice, lol.
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Love the bunker , handy shape ithe box came in huh?
What was it , printer cartridge?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice job on all the little details on the marines... laurels, blood drops and chains and such... They look good. I agree with Blackhand, the bunker is great, especially the "map room"!
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Post by: whalemusic360
My new D-link Wireless N router actually  Its the great recycling project really. The box, extra cover from the Fort of Redemption, Spare Flamestorm cannons from a LRC, twin linked bolter from the huricane bolters of the old LRC, the verticle stand for the router, some plasticard, tubing, sprues, door from a LR, a red beer cup, a hatch LR, some streched out springs, and, most importantly, a 40mm M203 training granade......
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Wow, WM360! That is quite the bunker.
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Post by: monkeytroll
lol, using munitions as, err.. munitions - excellent
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Post by: whalemusic360
Ive thought about using .22lr's and .17hmr's for basing and the like, everything else is to damn big for anything short of exterminus class weapons.
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So after a rather long hiatus, I figured I should take some pics and post em up for you to do whatever it is internets do to pm blogs.
Lots more pictures on Sunday but heres a taste
1st is my mostly done table with most of my BA, sans Dreadnoughts and maybe 1/2 of my DA (at least point wise). Whole army pics later, but yeah.
A finally finished (stupid flesh) DA Termi from SH
One of the old Plasma Cannon dudes from the DA Tac Squad. Kinda cool. Still needs basing, but almost done.
And finally some of the Termis I got from Cpt Cortez (may of effed that up, sorry). Still very WIP.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Coming along nicely WM! Like the table too.
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Thanks Git. Ive also decided to phase out my AoBR guys. I'm going to hack up the Tac Marines for new leg variants. But Ive got like 8 PF/SB and a Sgt that have some light coats of paint on em I'd like to trade off. More that are painted in Deathwing colors.
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Post by: Sageheart
looking good! i will keep checking this!
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Those are really nice WM! You get the termies done we'll need a group shot with th Raiders.
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Ive got a standard LR and another Crusader that are going to be DW colors, so once whose are done, I'll get group shots.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
As usual WM everything looks great! How big is the army now?
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Post by: whalemusic360
Well, it actually shrunk. I pulled the AoBR marines out, so I've got to make more bolter boys, down to about 20 now.
BA is still totally unplayable, unless I count one of the dreads as a DC dread or take dante and Sang guard as troops  Even then it sucks.
Soul Drinkers has 2 guys, and one is Black Reach.
I'll get a whole army pic up some time
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Post by: BLACKHAND
I hate to say I am glad your soul drinkers are still small, I had a horrible picture in my mind of you waiting patiently for conversion bits to arrive
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Nope, Im actually just thinking over if I just want to Army build them (like I have for DA and will for BA) or list build them. I do have dreams of someday starting a not-SM army. Maybe CSM lol.
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I'm lost, what is the difference between Army building and List building?
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@BLACKHAND- I wish I knew!
@WM360- Any ideas for a non SM army? If you come up with an idea let me know! I'll be more than happy to help in any way possible! Also I cant wait to see a family photo of the marines
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Post by: whalemusic360
If I had list built my DA, for example, I would have
Belial
Int Chaplin in termi armor
4 LC Termis
1 Thunderhammer Termi
2 CF/SB Termis
2 Asslt Cannon Termis
2 Termi Sgts
4 PF/SB Termis
3 standard bikes
2 meltagun bikes
1 sgt bike
1 land speeder
1 LRC
1 LR
All of which is my standard 1850 point list
But as it stands I have models, some of which were rather pricey (Dang Combiplasma dude) and completely stupid/worthless (Land Raider Helios) and only get used in exteme point Apocalypse games.
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Well that makes all the sense in the world! I feel a little slow for not knowing that
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I'm thinking it'll be Tau eventually. I love the FW suits! If gw makes plastic ones, I'm spending a bunch. I do have very small amounts of Crons, nids, DE, Eldar, IG, Tau, and orks, but nothing of a playable size. Mostly just the "Hey I wanna paint a ________" and stuff from trades.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Tau are cool. Something about them and the whole greater good thing almost seems creepy to me. Get to work so we can have a game in the future between the Emperor's Shields and the ________
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Once something new comes out that I really dig, I'll jump on it for sure. I just dont go very fast on my own army, especially with the GMS taking most of my painting time. I'd say I'll stop lining up trades, but that would be a lie.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
 Trade away friend. That GMS thread took off like wildfire! I love that the orks have taken over!
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Have you thought about a cron army converted with an egyptian theme?
Monoliths - pyramids
necron gods - animal headed gods
that sort of thing
I ask because I want to do it but won't have time or money till sometime next century
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I have, and I want to do them in blue, with blue rods instead of green.
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Yeah that stalker is pretty awesome, especially for the price!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well, the way to do it is to start trading your marines for other peep's (insert army of interest here), you'll soon have an army in place
And tony - if you're gonna hassle peeps to start new armies I'm gonna hassle you to get back on some of that bug goodness
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Monkey, are you following me around mate?  The buggies are just going through a transition! For the time being I am assuming a strictly harassing role. I really like WM360's work and would like to see some other armies done by him. thats all
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Post by: whalemusic360
Did some magnet swaps tonight, so thought I'd grab a pic or two of the Helios that I think has been thus far hidden from your eyes. The back of it has some major resin flaws in it, so I drilled em out and added some wire from CAT5e, speciffically the orange and orange-white.
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Love the way the wires stretch out WM... looks really cool.
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If it didnt suck so much game wise I might even use it once in awhile
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I really love that you at least make "fluffy" vehicles (even if they suck in game) Makes for a great looking army though  As always I love your work WM and look forward to seeing more.
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Thanks tony (I think). Ive got a LR Prometheus put together and awaiting paint right now. Plans for an Ares as well. I have more LRs the rhinos, which is a bit odd.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Fluffy is a good thing, just means you are sticking to the roots of the chapter. Makes me proud! Never odd if you are rolling a deathwing army.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thought I'd share a few images from a tourny I was in over the weekend. We came in 4th out of 10 teams, and faced the 1st and 2nd, so not to bad.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Your models look great on the table WM and it sounds like you were very successful! Care to share your list?
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Post by: whalemusic360
Well it was a 3k point team, with shared FoC and abilities. My partner was BT, and he took a thing that gave everything rerolls on the hit for CC. I took: Beliel (termi troop makin HQ) Termi Squad Alpha (2x TLC, 1x TH/ SS, 1x HF/ PF, Sgt TLC, Banner). TLCs got 5 hits that rerolls on hits and wounds! LRC with MM, SB and Extra Armor Termi Squad Bravo (1x TLC, 1x AssCnn/ PF, 1x CF/ SB, 1x SB/ PF, Sgt PS/ SB) LR with SB, HKM, and Extra Armor Termi Sqaud Charlie (1x AssCnn, 3x SB/ PF, Sgt PS, SB) Land Speeder with MM and HF (I had points left) 1st game we got a massacre with a bonus point 2nd game the demon player was bending the rules and rule lawyering at the same time. Told the TO I wouldnt play him again, ever. Still got 3 points (and demon player was quite nice afterwords, I think he was warhammered  ) 3rd game my teams 4 LRs got poped the 1st turn. Was game over from that point. Plus this game started at 4:30, and we got there at 7:45. I was kinda sick of playing, so we gave it to em in a few turns. That is the closest to a BR Ive ever done, lol.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Sounds fun WM!
Now add a couple of pics and you'll be a regular internet battle reporter.
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Never promised my updates would be quick, but I do finally have some. So got two Blood Angel Dreadnoughts finished. 1st is a converted AoBR Dread.  2nd is a Ironclad with Blood Talons for Paulson Games. Also started on a Hive Tyrant. Dont have the arms finished, mostly because I'm missing the bone sword. The one that came with it is clipped for some reason, so I need a new one. If anyone can help, lemme know. Going for the bone look with black carapace. I realized I have never got Nids on purpose but have 750 points worth, the Tyrant and all of the SH stealers and BL. Also got a new Camera for Xmas, so expect more regular updates. Got myself a Battlefoam PACK 720 in black as well, number 245/500. Looking forward to showing it off.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Those are lookin' great WM! Didn't know you had Nids... I look forward to getting to the bigger critters myself.
Nice job on the AoBR dread conversion. Those blood claws are pretty spectacular too.
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The Tyrant is the first Nid I've ever painted. Ive got 22 Genestealers and a Broodlord to do yet. I needed a break for Space Marines, and had him laying around, so there he is. I'm thinking of picking up the paulson swords, as I do have the actual arm, just the sword got cut off. Better do it before the aftermarket Apocalypse hits them too.
I'm also going to start re-basing my Dark Angels to fall in line with my game table and other armies. Lots of non-vehicle pics should be coming soon. Hopefully with some updates, I can get more then one person reading
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whalemusic360 wrote:Hopefully with some updates, I can get more then one person commenting 
Fixed that for you  Be assured, more than one person is reading!
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I'm reading..just havn't got much to say
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Post by: wolfshadow
Love the claws on the dread.
The tyrant looks impressive.
Don't know how I messed this log. :-)
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Post by: GreyDeathOne
I agree with Wolfshadow the claws are sick on the dred!! Man WM DA's, BA's and Nids!! Oh my!!!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Arakasi wrote:whalemusic360 wrote:Hopefully with some updates, I can get more then one person commenting 
Fixed that for you  Be assured, more than one person is reading!
Glad to know, felt like Git was the only one home. I know I'm not the best painter out there, but I hope someone other then me likes it.
Anyways, I got a bit more work done on both Gits MW models ( RT legs = devil) and Arakasi's Dread, but not enough to really show off.
I did finish up a Deathwing Sgt, which has been stuck in WIP land for a long time. He is the 1st DA to get the new basing scheme, as well as the 1st to get the colored power weapon. I decided to go with green as its the same color as the plasma that my DA use. Will be doing the same thing for all the other DA and BA, eventually. The servo skull had broken off, so I drilled a small hole in some plastic rod to make a pipe and then sleeved it together. Now it moves and stuff, but looks ok.
Also got some random terrain/objective marker thingy done. I kinda accidentally discovered something cool. I cut the top off one of the barrels and put some stuff in it. I poured a good bit of plastic glue in there to give the toxic waste a starting spot and to hold the plastic chunks in place. When I came back after it dried, it had sucked the barrel in on it self, giving it a dented and beat up look. Not sure what this is useful for, but I'm going to have to try it again on something later.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Actually WM, that's pretty darn good painting on both items. Like the power sword.
I know what you mean about sometimes wondering if anyone is out there. Don't usually have problems on my MW blog, but the response to my recent Nid and Cron posts has been slim. Granted, they aren't painted to the same standard as my marines by any stretch... but it does make you wonder if they aren't worth commenting on.
As long as you're happy with them, that's all that counts! Besides, your painting is clearly improving.
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Yeah, I kinda noticed that one the Crons and Nids. I think its because most people have done a marine at one point or another, where as not so much with other xenos races. Once I get used to doing other armies I am more likely to comment on them.
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Post by: btemple0
I also get bored of painting Space Marines; so I would collect models to just paint them for those days I was on 24 hour duty back in the states. On another note, it is great to see some updates and I really do like that Ironclad.
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Thanks btemple. Hes got quite a few pieces from the Ven Dread kit as well. Just in time for the GW one to come out
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Post by: wolfshadow
Nice work on the DeathWing sgt. And interesting effect on the barrel. I'm intrigued to see what uses you can come up with for that effect.
And I totally know how you feel on the commenting thing.
I get some comments here (Thanks Gits and Btemple)... but I tossed a few pics up on Warseer. Over 150 views and not a single comment. o_O
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Post by: Samus_aran115
How in the name of gak have I missed this blog? WM, you're one of my favorite posters!
I LOVElovelovelove that tyrant. The carapace would be really great if it was Painted dark flesh. Trust me! I did my trygon prime just like yours, except with a dark flesh carapace. It was amazing (the highlight is dark flesh with a bit of BB added, while I did the feathering with blood red (thinned down pinch).
SUBBED
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Post by: monkeytroll
That's pretty cool with the barrel, think I'll be messing about in a similar vein to see what occurs, thanks for sharing that.
Like the colour scheme for the 'nids, looks nice and not one that's gonna bring on burnout quickly.
Think the time of year is affecting comments as well as updates. The really popular threads seem to be relatively active but not much going on in the others, I can browse the gallery for a good while come back to the P&M forums and find there's only been 3 new replies in total. (But new camera and more updates is never going to hurt  )
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Feeling re-energized by both the new camera and new army (well, they've been hanging around for awhile, but w/e), I got even more done today. Finished 3/4 of the HT weapons, still missing the Bone Sword.  And got the first Genestealer finished. I have 2 more started, but still a ways off. @ Samus - Thought about that scheme, but a player are the store I go to most has some in the "Zerg" scheme, so I didn't want to be the same. Plus its kind of a tribute to Tony_Nids_10, who had to step away from 40k due to personal reasons, who had a very similar scheme. @ Wolf and monkey - Not sure what the effect is really good for, but was kind of interesting none the less. Maybe basing or terrain? Or nurgle So yeah, updates. Gotta love xmas breaks.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Tony had that scheme? I've been meaning to talk to him =/ Hope he's doing well
Okay, never mind then! I got my inspiration from a guy name mew2cool on deviantart. I play hive fleet kraken, which is sort of like bone/red. Good luck!
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o_O
Great work on that 'Stealer! Love it.
I love the green 'ooze' effect. Gives 'em a little 'pop'....
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Love the pose on that stealer WM... truly remarkable!
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Tony's scheme:  His highlights are more pronounced (mine have some, but its very dark gray, hard to see in pics) and I went with green eyes and tongue. Same basic style though. I dont get credit for the pose, its one of the Space hulk Stealers. I just modified it to fit on a 25 and added some sand.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
whalemusic360 wrote:Tony's scheme:
His highlights are more pronounced (mine have some, but its very dark gray, hard to see in pics) and I went with green eyes and tongue. Same basic style though.
I dont get credit for the pose, its one of the Space hulk Stealers. I just modified it to fit on a 25 and added some sand.
Ah, I gotcha  That's pretty nice of you! I can tell he drybrushed the carapace too. It looks like adeptus battlegrey. A very nice model regardless. I hope he comes back soon!
Maybe I'll paint my freshly stripped warriors in his scheme for him!
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Post by: btemple0
To be completely honest I have no clue as to when GW is releasing new stuff because my WD subscription has yet to reach me in scenic middle of nowhere, where I am currently deployed, and I will admit that trying to get anything from FW other than their catalog is like pulling teeth.
But on that note GW is supposed to release a plastic Furioso with blood talons?
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Post by: wolfshadow
btemple0 wrote:To be completely honest I have no clue as to when GW is releasing new stuff because my WD subscription has yet to reach me in scenic middle of nowhere, where I am currently deployed, and I will admit that trying to get anything from FW other than their catalog is like pulling teeth.
But on that note GW is supposed to release a plastic Furioso with blood talons?
Yeah, prob next month-ish.
There are some shots of the Furioso/Libbby Dread and the StormRaven in the News and Rumor section.
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Love the Carnifex!!! But let's see more DW love what you started!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Carnifex is not mine, its Tony_Nids, but I'll get my DW Sgt that I finally finished up.
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Post by: wolfshadow
Love the one thats tearing up the deck plate.
That Stealer is top notch too. I love the Space Hult stealers... so dynamic and menacing.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Pose on that gene stealer is epic WM, great job. I thought your adoring fans deserved a look at one of your termies with the proper white balance... hope you don't mind.
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Bolter on the first guy is awesome.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Its so white! Thanks Gits. If I had the room for it I'd make a light box, but sadly not gunna happen until I move out.
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Post by: btemple0
I am still avoiding pulling any of my Space hulk minis off of their sprue until i absolutely decide that it is time to paint them, but every time I see one of the Genestealers or termies painted I go and look at the box on my shelf thats still in the plastic wrapper. Wait, im headed on a tangent, great genestealers.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I still have the termis on sprue actually. I got 2 sets of SH.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Samus_aran115 wrote:whalemusic360 wrote:Tony's scheme:
His highlights are more pronounced (mine have some, but its very dark gray, hard to see in pics) and I went with green eyes and tongue. Same basic style though.
I dont get credit for the pose, its one of the Space hulk Stealers. I just modified it to fit on a 25 and added some sand.
Ah, I gotcha  That's pretty nice of you! I can tell he drybrushed the carapace too. It looks like adeptus battlegrey. A very nice model regardless. I hope he comes back soon!
Maybe I'll paint my freshly stripped warriors in his scheme for him!
Ask and ye shall receive! I am back though not as hardcore as before. To answer any wuestions about my ( imho god awful scheme) It is adep grey with a little layering of mixes of that and white. Hope you guys didn't miss me too much
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Post by: whalemusic360
Cool, I'll have to get some adept grey and touch it up. Glad to see you swing by for a comment!
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Post by: wolfshadow
Nice mugs.
Love the base on the Broodlord.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Nice broodlord and power glaive. We'll have to take our mugs and drain a few some day WM!
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Post by: whalemusic360
@ Wolf -I liked the base a lot more before I dumped my blood effect all over it. It doesnt match anything in any of my other bases. Thought it would make it stand out, which worked, to much. @ Git - Heck yeah we will. Next Battlefoam order Im getting a Landraider, Razorback and Awsome mug tray made
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Post by: whalemusic360
I did redo the Broodlord's base and got several Stealers done, but cant find my charger for the camera I just got. Seriously, I havent even charged it twice! grrrr.......
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Post by: Sageheart
great work! still loving the yellow termies
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Post by: whalemusic360
They're actually bone colored, my photo skills are meh.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Ok, so now that I have my camera charger again (found it the same day the new one showed up. EFF ME!) I have mass updates. I first of highlighted the black on all the nids with the Tony_Nids Adeptus Battlegray drybrush, as seen here:  I Have got a Bonesword for the big guy, but haven't even primed it yet. The newly based (and touched up) Broodlord  And the bucket-o-stealers (forgot to take a pic of #3, lol) #4  #5  #6  #7  #8  And #9 Also rebaised some of my Dark Angels, thought I'd give a few quick shots. I'll take better pics when they get a better touch up. I kinda hate that I have become a better painter, makes it hard to progress to new things instead of touching up old ones. And finally on show and tell night, is a project from Mr. Blackhand. He was originally going to do a GS sword, but had the EC once handy, so yeah. He then painted it up, because the "pro paint job" I commissioned blew chunks (Same guy lost the original sword). I'm going to add some more colors to it, not sure on washing it (like all other gold things I've done) because the gold is quite nice.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Glad to see he went back together ok, and don't be afraid to wash the gold, he's already had one!
the paint went Lyandan Darksun - Shining Gold - Devlan Mud was - Mithril Silver drybrush - Shinging gold touch ups and highlights to tone down the mithril.
So yeah he could probably do with another wash to bring in some contrast...speaking of contrast I had no idea what to do with the lion pelt but I think he needs something too
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice stuff WM, you *are* becomming a better painter! Wonders never cease! :-) Your stealers look great by-the-way... have to show them to Thing 2.
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Post by: whalemusic360
The pelt has black spots in most of the pics out there, I will give that a try. Gold is a super hard color to do for large areas, yours is very good. What's your skin formula btw? I suck at it and yours looks great.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
I hate to say that my skin is even simper than the gold
I have an ancient bottle of bronzed flesh, like literally the old version of the GW paints which I use the process is
white base coat - bronzed flesh - devlan mud wash - bronzed flesh highlight - maybe a 1:1 mix of white and bronzed flesh to highlight again, maybe.
Glad you like the gold and yeah some spots would help bring the pelt out from the armour and wings. He will definitely benefit from some blood drops and such as he has a limited gold/silver/white pallette at the moment
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I have to say sir that your nids look way better than mine did  No shock there. Glad to see that the little bugs are 2-0!
T_N_10
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thanks tony. They have been getting nearly all my p&m time of late, and are a fun change in play style. I have 2 boxes of hormagaunts, 3 tyrant guard, some zoeys, a cfex, a doom conversion, some rippers, and a trygon to do yet, as well as something bigger...
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Bigger you say? Now you have 100% of my attention.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Bigger that a trygon you say? *rubs hands in while cackling menacingly*
Nice stealers, they look great on regular bases
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thanks Cain. And yes, bigger then a trygon. MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Does it start with H and end with ierophant bio titan? Cause that would rule quite a bit.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Hiero is still a bit out of the budget, and wont be coming to the party yet. Barb will be though, and she may have a brother Mal show up as well.
Also looks like I need to come up with a paint scheme for Tau Battlesuits, any suggestions? I'm thinking a greenish gray with orange markings.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Dunno... what color is tau blood? I'd suggest grey splattered with tau blood color. Call it tau camouflage...
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Post by: whalemusic360
Lol, that's a bit harsh. I have 3 FW suits and a GW Broadside, as well as 2 stealth suits and an ethereal that have been laying around. I tried to trade em, but didnt get any good offers, so I'm keepin em.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Mostly rebased space marines to share tonight, but I'll start with something that has been awhile coming. My finally finished Hive Tyrant, complete with bone sword!
And the first of his personal body guard. Woulda got this done sooner (and a lot more), but the paint got magically messed up (pretty sure my brother dropped him on the floor, but doesnt want me to get mad).
And here's said rebased marines. You've seen them before I'm pretty sure. Got the flying stuff done, but as they are not attached and were down stairs, no photos. I will eventually bring them up to current standards, but for now, they'll do.
Question if there are any Tau players reading this. I have 4 battlesuits and a Broadside. What is the best equipment for suits? I may just pose them to look cool.  Stay tuned, I will some day get to them.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice work WM! Love the glowing green tongues on the Nids.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
From what I remember of my 40k guru telling me about how to set my tau suits up,
Keep them simple, don't put 3 types of weapons stick to one or two.
Missiles and plasmas seem to be a popular choice, but I have seen my friend use a suit with T/L flamers to amazing effect and all for around 50-60 points!
It doesn't matter what weapons you choose, the cool part is where you mount them , underslung on the forearm, shouldemounted or even give them grips for them to hold like real rifles and pisols, There really is heaps of options.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thanks Gits.
I'll keep that in mind BH. I really got them because I like the way the suits look (and 3 are FW suits I got for less then the GW ones)
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Post by: Sageheart
i would wash your marine's faces then pick out the highlights with a slightly lighter flesh color.
i love the glowy green on the tyranids, great stuff!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Faces are one of the "go back and bring up to par later" things. Its on the list, but behind a bunch of other crap that I'm better at. Just got my 2 new Storm Ravens, 2 Furioso Dreads, Trygon, and some other stuff today, I'm excited!
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Post by: Sageheart
io would be excited too!
are you building the stormravens normally, or going to convert them up a bit
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Post by: whalemusic360
Havent decided yet, as I havent opened the box yet. I suspect normal like, the only thing I dont like is the roof scoop, which I can live with.
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Post by: btemple0
I opened up my box with my stormraven and my buddy got all pissed off that his Orks do not have themselves a flyer.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Maybe the "summer of flyers" will fix that. I'm hoping for a thunderbolt for imperial and some harpy love for Nids. Not that I'd be upset if it was a Thunderhawks and Haradins
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Post by: btemple0
Doubt that because I will be the one purchasing him said flyer, because I doubt his ball and chain will let him.
Then again he still does not understand the difference between a power weapon and a power fist so I do not wnat to explain flyers to him
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Post by: whalemusic360
Got Senor Zoey numero uno finished tonight. I am a bit disappoint that they all look the same, so, after some more pressing projects are finished (like Gits MWs), I'm going to try some stuff on some used and abused Zoeys I got for cheap.
Also got 3 more Stealers done sans basing, so expect at least those pics sometime soon.
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Post by: btemple0
Maybe you could add to their skin to make it seem like the psychic energies make them somewhat bioluminescent(sp?), that way you could make subtle patterns to make the skin differ on each one.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Nids are looking great WM, and that sounds like a very interesting box of goodies you received the other day
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Those look good WM! Fine job!
Yes, make them glow monkey-boy!!
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Post by: whalemusic360
You mean like osl, as the brain-goo as the source?
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Post by: btemple0
That could be done, but I was thinking something like the top left picture on the gallery from
http://squid.tepapa.govt.nz/the-deep/article/bioluminescence-in-the-deep-ocean
the fish thing has a cool spinal column glow to it.
Here is a good example of a biological "glow" although it is an iredescence:
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Post by: whalemusic360
Hmmm, I'll give it a try, but you may be vastly over estimating my painting abilities.
For those who are lazy.
My current plans for different looking Zoeys is to hack the Carapace over the head off and replace it with the head armor from the trygon kit. There's 3 choices in there, before modifications, so if it works, lots of choice. Two are also missing arms and the bottom fin things, so I'll be trying some stuff there.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Naaah, I want a light bulb in there so it GLOWS!!
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Post by: whalemusic360
LED in a metal model? Now your makin stuff up Gits.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Personally I'd like to see you re-cast all the nids in clear resin around some painted innards.
And maybe a light bulb.
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Post by: btemple0
This looks easy enough, the effect is along the spinal column and the brain matter. The model is approximately 3 inches tall so a pinpoint of light about every quarter on an inch, more or less to as you see fit, then add some OSL. Besides you will never know if you can do it until you try.
EDIT: sorry about the other picture thing, It is hard for me to post many pictures due to the fact I am using my computer at work.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thought about trying that with a lictor or tau stealth suits, only all clear. And no light bulb. NP on the pic thing, I'm also at work, but have nothing better to do, and no fire walls/monitoring software (I am the IT guy that tracks stuff  )
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Post by: BLACKHAND
monkeytroll wrote:Personally I'd like to see you re-cast all the nids in clear resin around some painted innards.
You know, this is possible......
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Post by: whalemusic360
Think your up to it Cast-Master? Pretty sure a lictor (or any 2 piece) is beyond my casting prowess.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Lol, Nooooo I can't! I would love to but a project that big would consume my puny life
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
whalemusic360 wrote:Hmmm, I'll give it a try, but you may be vastly over estimating my painting abilities.
For those who are lazy.
My current plans for different looking Zoeys is to hack the Carapace over the head off and replace it with the head armor from the trygon kit. There's 3 choices in there, before modifications, so if it works, lots of choice. Two are also missing arms and the bottom fin things, so I'll be trying some stuff there.
I think you should save this kind of design for the Doom of Malantai
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Post by: whalemusic360
I ordered some of that instant mold stuff, so if it holds up to resin I may give the lictor a whirl.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Hey WM, what kind of resin do you use? I have the instant mold stuff and it appears to work OK with green stuff, not great though as the GS is so stiff. Think it would work great with a more malleable substrate.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
I read a review of the stuff and he kind of panned it because the GS couldn't pick up all the detail, but I couldn't understand why he was using GS in the first place. Resin should definitely pick up all the detail that the instant mold has, being a liquid as opposed to a solid, let me know if it works out as I was thinking about buying some
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Post by: whalemusic360
I use Smooth-on resin, though would get some clear stuff for this. The only problem with the resin that I can see is that instant mold is a heat reactive product, and resin gets pretty hot. Will post results.
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Ooh, good point, how hot do you have to heat the instant mold before it is malleable? does it go liquid?
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Post by: whalemusic360
I do not, as mine was ordered last night around 1am.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
170" F
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Post by: btemple0
You mean degrees (°) or inches?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
supposed to be 170 degrees F.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Well since we don't measure temperature in inches I think maybe it was safe to assume what Git meant.... I may be wrong though
I cant wait to see some more progress WM, It's nice to see something other than the orks and space marines on every other thread I follow
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thanks Tony, but that obviously makes way to much sense for dakka! After I get Gits MWs done (Ive got till end of month so he has time to paint em) and the bases on the 3 stealers, I'm going to open the polls for what I do next, especially as none of my friggin eBay FW nids have gotten here yet. I guess I can put up the options now, plenty of vote time then, and it will keep the blog alive for another week. I'll work on this while finishing up the few remaining GMS trades from 2010. Geenstealer Brood (10 remaining SH nids) BA Vindicator DA Land Raider Prometheus - 1 Tau Stealth Suits (3) Hormagaunts (5 of em) Deathwing Termi Squad (5) IG Commissar - .5 Necron Scarab Swarms (3) BA Sternguard (5 Metals) Tau Etherial Some DA repairs (3) Some BA Devistators (3ish) Lizardmen (1 big guy, 1 lil guy) - .5 Go back and redo bring something up to current level (write in) After something is done, I'll replace it with either an HQ or a few models in the "Started but not finished" files, which is a step up from all these that are in the "Started but not finished" Land Raider Boxes. The write in will always be an option.
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Post by: Arakasi
Mmmmm.... DA Land Raider Prometheus...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well I'm always keen on vehicles, but in this case I'd say the lizardmen or the commissar, just as they're different to your regular stuff.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Votes added to da list!
Quick review of Instant Mold (sorry, no pics due to ip reasons).
I tried to use the Instant Mold product that is all the rage last night, just to see what happens. First I tried selected a piece I need more of. Lets call it a combination superheated air gun compatible with 28mm models. I had left a bit of the sprue on for excess to travel into. Followed directions on the instant mold package, and made a 2 sided mold. The only problem I ran into was getting the 2 sides apart, gotta remember to put some sort of release agent on em next time. I used the BB trick to make sure they line up right. I used some of the GF9 "Brown stuff" that I had just chilling. It worked ok, but wasn't able to pick up the level of detail that I would want on a model. It would be good for making a base or perhaps a shoulder pad. Something with small details (like the vents on the CSAG) might be too much, they seem to of just gotten mushy. There is also a TON for "flash", which I think is the problem. If you could figure out the exact amount of GS (or BS in this case) I believe you would get better results as you could make the bond tighter between the two pieces.
Next time on The Instant Mold Chronicles: Resin invades!
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Post by: BLACKHAND
Cheers WM, it sounds from your review and Gits that the Instant Mold picks up enough detail but its the GS or BS that doesn't fill the mold properly, can't wait to hear how resin does.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Haven't had time to venture further into the Instantmold chronicles yet (I'll get there), but I have managed to rebase all but 3 of my GMS marines, all of my termis, bikes, speeders, and HQs, and about 2/3 of my PA marines to match my table and other armies. I also got the 3 genestealers finished up, and even took pics!
Ive got more pics uploading right now, which I'll either post tomorrow or when someone comments  Stupid auto appends.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Just love those stealers ...
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thanks gits! Getting a bit tiresome to keep doing troop choices. However, I have a possible remedy for this problem, what yall think?
A few Ripper Swarms:
Some Canifex arms:
Some Shrike/Parasite wings:
Mr. Mal N. Thrope. Not as big as the pics make him out to be, but still pretty tall. The base in the pic is a 60mm.
And the one I'm really excited for, Barbara.
And just for an idea on how big it is:
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Holy smokes! Is that a FW thing??
Love their rippers... just not in my budget. Looking forward to seeing yours painted up.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Yup, my FW crap from eBay finally came in.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I'm kind of excited about getting thing 2's Trygon finally finished. Going to have to try to sneak some time here around the pods...
That thing should be spectacular... can it be fielded in regular 40k or is it a apoc thing?
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Post by: whalemusic360
It has both a Heavy statline (In IA4, which I picked up already) and an Apoc statline. The Apoc stats are pretty cool, you can check it out in Army Builder. Automatically Appended Next Post: After an intense voting (2 of them  ), I have started the winning model, the Land Raider Prometheus for my Dark Angels. I got the interior done, by far the most detailed interior that I have ever done.
Did the engine as well, but forgot to take pics before I put it together.
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No comments on the LR? I blame Auto Appends.
Anyways, I started working on the outside, and am thinking it is way to plain to be the "Command Land Raider" its supposed to be. Problem is, I dont have a set "Command" that will be riding in it, so I cant just personalize it. Heres the ideas I have thus far come up with:
Lots of bone/red/black/silver color on the out side. Maybe something like one of the LR in IA4?
Lots of the FW DA Brass?
Attempt at some free hand?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
It's the auto append... didn't even notice it. Go for the brass first, then consider free hand.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I was thinking the brass, applied en force, and the lowest panels on the raider being bone (like my deathwing)
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Post by: WarPetrie
yeah i'd say the brass and then also get some of the icons from FW
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Post by: Arakasi
Looking good - also missed it due to auto-append. Do a Git - PM one of your friends who are online to "bump" you before posting pics! (unless it's been 24hrs - in which case it won't auto-append - I don't actually know what the auto-append time frame is...)
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Post by: monkeytroll
I think it's generally 12 hours, but some people seem to manage to post 2 or 3 times in a row quickly without it occuring, which is irksome as hell when I notice it
The brass with the bone panels sounds good, then see if you want to add some freehand.
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ok Im a bit lost....whats auto-append? O_o
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
WarPetrie wrote:ok Im a bit lost....whats auto-append? O_o
Auto-append is when you post 2 separate posts within a small amount of time and dakka automatically puts the 2 posts together. It also doesnt bump your thread. SO in short its a
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Post by: Commander Cain
Dang, makes me want to buy a LR! How much of that detail will you be able to see when it is all put together? It seems a shame to cover up such effort
FW brass is the way to go if you want to personalize the tank, no matter how good you may be at freehand, that little 3D edge really makes the detail stand out.
And don't get me started on how annoying Auto-Append is! Ah well...
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Post by: whalemusic360
Unfortunately, most of it will rarely be seen, if even. Regardless, it was a fun exercise. Also, got the roof panel finished, but all my photos were crap, so I'll get more later this week.
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Post by: whalemusic360
HAHA, a slightly less crappy pic!
Still need some freehand? Whatcha think?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
As Usual sir it looks amazing!
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Sweetness!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Got the hull mostly finished up. I need some advice (again) though. The engine cover. I have no idea what color to make it. Any ideas? (didnt take any pics of it as it is just black atm)
Other suggestions welcome as well.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
You should sow a pic of the engine cover so we can see it in context with what you've done already.
Rest looks great though!
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