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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
So, just what happens when Tyranids, ravenous beasts who consume every scrap of organic material on a planet, land on one that is mostly water? Get a rod and lure? Or do they do that thing they do best, and adapt?
I give you: Hive Fleet Charybdis.
It's going to be a long project, and one where I will probably need some advice and suggestions, but we're going to find out just what it looks like when a Hive Fleet makes a 'land'fall on a water planet.
Some (most) will be conversions of existing models, some will be entirely improvised.
No, I'm not just GSing gills onto normal 'nids. 
I more than welcome (what's beyond 'welcoming'? 'setting out a saucer of milk for'?) any suggestions/ideas/criticisms/riddles you may have to contribute. I've not done any real extensive modeling before, so I'm going to still have a ton to learn.
First up? Mycetic Spores. I'll have pictures of the work in progress on this up later tonight (I'dve posted it all together, but wanted to get the first half of this post out of the way, as it's not short). I still have to do the green stuffing on it (my first time using the stuff, we'll see how it goes), and find a way to attach part of it, but I think it's at the point where you can get a good idea of where I'm going with it.
Stuff in the works/vague plans (in no real order):
Mycetic Spores - Giant Clams
Zoanthropes - Jellyfish (this one took me a while to work out and collect the stuff for, but I think it's going to come together well)
Mawlocs - Angler Fish (this one is going to be fun, big plans for this)
Harpies - Manta Rays
Venomthropes - Squids/Octopi (ink cloud!)
Hive Tyrant - ...well, I have an image in my head, but it doesn't really translate to an actual sea creature. We'll see.
Termagants - Shrimp
Genestealers - Crabs
Tyrannofexes - Snails
Carnifexes - Crabs (really big ones)
Lictors - Lictors are just going to be Lictors, but it's their context that will change
Tyranid Warriors/Shrikes - Sharks
Gargoyles - Stingrays
Hormagaunts - Piranhas/Barracudas
Biovores - Reef/Sea Anemone combo-thing
Ripper Swarms - Starfish swarms, possibly other sea-creature swarms. This is a result of using what I could find.
Tervigons - Lobsters (though really only to go with the 'gants)
Tyrant Guard - Barnacles..sort of..I think..
Hive Guard - Sea Urchins? Pufferfish? Not sure where to go with these.
Trygons - Hydra-/Kraken-ish
Raveners - Lampreys
Pyrovores - ???
Other things to work in there somewhere (kind of notes for me as well): Trilobites, Giant Isopods, Spider-ish Crabs (rather than hermit-style crabs), Nautiloids, Plesiosaurs/Mosasaurs, Nudabranchs, Starfish other than tiny ones, Manatees...
I've been collecting the non-model bits for a lot of this already. AC Moore and the aquarium section of PetSmart are quickly learning my credit card number by heart, but both are quite a useful resource for this project.
Lots of potential for terrain with this, too. You know, aside rfom just picking up any piece of aquarium decoration and calling it a day.
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Post by: MasterDRD
This sounds... really awesome. How come nobody ever thought of this before?! 
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Post by: Golden Eyed Scout
If this plan goes through to completion, I want to play against your army.
I've entertained more then a few thoughts of making an Imperial Guard water themed army. Maybe thi thread'll give me some ideas.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
My first attempt at the idea for the spore pod. Waaaaay too small, but it's the direction I want to go in.
The initial bits for the second incarnation of the spore pod. Bent paper clips (normal sized and really big) and a pair of shells the size of my fist.
The pod once the tentacles are glued on. Top half on the left, bottom on the right. Note that the tentacles in the middle of the bottom half are not present on the top half.
Considering adding some 'teeth' in there somewhere, but not sure about it.
Next step is green-stuffing the 'roots' of the tentacles so that they merge into the shell better. And perhaps GSing the ends of the tentacles so they taper. Might even add some hooks to the ends of some.
Also considering a denser group of small, but longer, tentacles coming from the back of the shell's 'throat', once the two halves are put together.
Something I'm really not sure about: I'm going to paint the tentacles, and the inside of the shell since it'll be covered in green stuff and such. Should I leave the outside of the shell..shell-colored? Or should I try to paint that as well?
Also, note to self (and any others trying something similar) for next time: Get the paper clips that don't have the gold coating on them, as it flakes away if you bend them too much. Curse you, Staples!
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Post by: hungryp
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:
Pyrovores - ???
Anglerfish?
Oops, I mean Archer Fish! 
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Post by: SonofGuilliman
Pyrovore could be a squid/octopus, or a jelly fish.
SoG
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Post by: The Fox Lord
This is a cool start to a an even cooler idea.
Mawlocs, Trygons and Ravenors don't realy need much, after all they're already giant snakes, it won't take much to make them giant sea snakes. may your work be joyous & your creations devine.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
hungryp wrote:Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:
Pyrovores - ???
Archer Fish!
Ahh, that could work!
Though I need to figure out how to make that look like what it is...
Oh well, it's a long way down the line. Automatically Appended Next Post: SonofGuilliman wrote:Pyrovore could be a squid/octopus, or a jelly fish.
SoG
Have both of those earmarked already, but thanks for the ideas! Automatically Appended Next Post: The Fox Lord wrote:This is a cool start to a an even cooler idea.
Mawlocs, Trygons and Ravenors don't realy need much, after all they're already giant snakes, it won't take much to make them giant sea snakes. may your work be joyous & your creations devine.
Why thank you!
And yeah, I could just slap some fins on them or something, but I wanted to try for something a little more unique. That being said, that's probably exactly what I'll end up doing by the time I get to them.
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Post by: MasterDRD
Yeah that is one thing about your idea... You seem to be changing the form of the nids more than they probably would change for underwater conquest. I imagine, for example, that smaller nids like gaunts would really only trade their legs and tail for fins/etc. and not completely change shape. And why would every type of tyranid take forms we are familiar with? (especially when to take said forms they would have to be so drastically altered...) But that's just fluff nitpicking, and when has that ever stopped anyone?
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Nah, I understand. A Mycetic Spore probably wouldn't change at all, since it's just there to deliver something from orbit.
But I'll go with the old standby answer, paraphrased to suit my needs: The Hive Mind works in mysterious ways.
(plus I just wanted them to look more distinct)
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Post by: hungryp
The Fox Lord wrote:This is a cool start to a an even cooler idea.
Mawlocs, Trygons and Ravenors don't realy need much, after all they're already giant snakes, it won't take much to make them giant sea snakes. may your work be joyous & your creations devine.
You could also look at some of the older sea-forms that are similar. The typical long-nosed, sleek bodied dinosaurs would be a great look for these types of models. Check out the Eonatator, for example... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eonatator
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Ahh, good idea.
I had thought about a nautilus for something (a shame I can't find a shell from one of those!), but had totally forgotten about other ancient sea creatures.
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Post by: Trilobite
For trygons, you should go with Mosasaurs, since this is pretty much what they are based on designwise.
Mosasaurs: huge extinct sea snakes.
more info and pictures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosasaur
I really like the sound of this project and wish you all the best with your modelling!
As another note, spider crabs always tend to be far less viscious than regular crabs from my experience which clashes a bit with the ferocious tyranids thing. Obv its your own choice, since spider crabs do look cool but I would probably keep them out. I think I recall that most spider crabs are actually vegitarian too, though I might be wrong.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Trilobite wrote:For trygons, you should go with Mosasaurs, since this is pretty much what they are based on designwise.
Mosasaurs: huge extinct sea snakes.
more info and pictures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosasaur
I really like the sound of this project and wish you all the best with your modelling!
As another note, spider crabs always tend to be far less viscious than regular crabs from my experience which clashes a bit with the ferocious tyranids thing. Obv its your own choice, since spider crabs do look cool but I would probably keep them out. I think I recall that most spider crabs are actually vegitarian too, though I might be wrong.
Excellent idea, thank you.
And really appreciating all the encouragement.
And sea anemones and shrimp and barnacles and clams aren't all that fierce either. But I'm going partially for that deep sea hideous alien abomination sort of feel you get with some of the weirder sea creatures.
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Post by: Arakasi
My initial thought from the title was "Alien: Resurrection" swimming posed Tyranids - but this could definately work too!
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Post by: Tek
I'm always interested in new forms of Nid biodiversity. Could I suggest a slight dipping-into the Aliens universe? In the expanded fiction universe of novels, comics, toylines etc., there's been a huge amount of "new" aliens invented, partly to cope with new environments, but mostly (I think) for fun. There's snakes, crocodilles - everything you can imagine. This one's called the "Swimmer"  EDIT: Image fixed!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Arakasi wrote:My initial thought from the title was "Alien: Resurrection" swimming posed Tyranids - but this could definately work too!
My Tyrant is going to look somewhat like that, actually. And thanks for the visual aid, Tek.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
The Mycetic Spore after greenstuffing the junctures on the tentacle bases. It didn't come out quite like I wanted, I think. Considering greenstuffing, a fine layer, over the whole inside to make the texture a gooey, bumpy sort of thing like you'd see in a clam, and to smooth out the texture into something uniform. Not quite sure. Advice from anyone with experience with GS? This is my first attempt at using it.
I also tried using it to make one of the tentacles taper to a point, but it doesn't seem like it's firming up, and isn't really working the way I wanted it to.
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Ripper Swarms. I plan on some more of these; need to get ahold of a friend to get some Marine bits for victims picked clean by the bottom feeders. And also will probably try some other swarm types, rather than just starfish.
I wonder if I should drybrush these with some other color or something...
Also, first basing I've done. Took some experimentation with what sort of glue to use, and had to do it in a couple of layers, but eventually it worked. Sand's whiter than it looks in the picture.
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Post by: physcosamatic
Maybe make the star fish and the clam more viscous, it seems not very menacing. Spikes, Spines and sharp teeth might give it some more Scariness because right now especially the starfish, just looks like it would tickle you to death 
good luck though
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Starfish have their 'mouths' on the bottom, and they're too small to add much too. I kind of picture them just cleaning the flesh off of anything they crawl over. As I said, when I make a few more, and have the money for some bits, I plan on making a couple with the skeletal remains of a Marine or something on them.
The Spore isn't done yet. Thinking about some teeth/spines or something, but not sure. Also considering hooks on some of the ripper tendrils.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
This is a really cool project and i look forward to developments.
That said, i don't think you should go out of your way to make everything into a living sea creature, if you created some of your own underwater gribblies that would llok awesome!
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Post by: LuigiX
Great idea and I look forward to seeing more. The horrors of the briny deep have so much potential...
For greenstuff tips, the best source is this post: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/242387.page . It's a great guide to most of the basic skills you'll need to get started. Though, honestly, the best tip is practice. You'll see as you get to the end of a project like this, the stuff you do at the end looks a thousand times better than the first few you did.
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Post by: Young_Logan
I really like the idea, if you can do the whole army it will look great
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Post by: The Good Green
How about jelly fish swarms?
This is coming along quite nicely. I'm looking forward to seeing this army develop.
You can use some sand paper or a rough... sidewalk, let's say, to grind down the ends of the tentacles.
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Post by: bigblackzach242
Interesting can't wait to see this come together
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Post by: Mewiththeface
Trygons could be hag fish.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Vitruvian XVII wrote:That said, i don't think you should go out of your way to make everything into a living sea creature, if you created some of your own underwater gribblies that would llok awesome!
Most of what I'm doing is just going to look as if it is influenced by the associated 'animal'. And the Tyrant isn't really going to look like an extant creature. You just happen to be seeing first some of the more direct translations. Automatically Appended Next Post: The Good Green wrote:How about jelly fish swarms?
Considered that, actually. Unsure how to go about it, though. We'll see how the Zoanthropes turn out and go from there.
Thinking Trilobite/Horseshoe Crab Swarms, some kind of Piranha Swarms for Sky Slashers, a few other things.
You're seeing starfish first because I have starfish.
Alas, a lot of this army is going to be that way. Limited by what I have at the moment, much of the cooler stuff to come later, since I'm not rich. Automatically Appended Next Post: Mewiththeface wrote:Trygons could be hag fish.
Indeed. Thinking about converting their mouths into something lamprey-ish.
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Post by: Chowderhead
Turn the starfish into a deathstar, and I'll love this whole shebang.
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Post by: JDM
I shall tickel you into Submission!
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Post by: That Other Guy
Now all i have to say is Maw-Sharkloc or something along those lines.
Oh, and You Tyrant Should be..... A MUDKIP!!!
0MG
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
chowderhead13 wrote:Turn the starfish into a deathstar, and I'll love this whole shebang.
The package of starfish -did- come with some larger ones that I have no idea what to do with...hmm...
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
I was gonna say why not piranaha for ripper swarms? but then i saw your pic of the star fish.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Jay-Man McDougall wrote:I was gonna say why not piranaha for ripper swarms? but then i saw your pic of the star fish.
Mostly because they're much more difficult to do, and I found starfish cheap.
Do they not look good?
Also, I'm tending to keep the things that swim quickly to represent fliers. I'll work on some sort of Piranhas for Sky Slashers (Rippers with wings).
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:Jay-Man McDougall wrote:I was gonna say why not piranaha for ripper swarms? but then i saw your pic of the star fish.
Mostly because they're much more difficult to do, and I found starfish cheap.
Do they not look good?
Also, I'm tending to keep the things that swim quickly to represent fliers. I'll work on some sort of Piranhas for Sky Slashers (Rippers with wings).
They look fine, just noot my cup of tea, i imagined something a little more aggressive looking is all.
Are you doing anything with screamers of tzeench models?
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Jay-Man McDougall wrote:Are you doing anything with screamers of tzeench models?
I seriously considered using those, very mildly converted, for my gargoyle/mantas. But I felt like it was kind of a cop-out. Plus, they're damn expensive.
I may still do something with that.
I think it depends on how good I get at using Greenstuff. Automatically Appended Next Post: You know, it's a shame Leviathan and Kraken are both taken, they'd make great Hive Fleet names for this...
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:Jay-Man McDougall wrote:Are you doing anything with screamers of tzeench models?
I seriously considered using those, very mildly converted, for my gargoyle/mantas. But I felt like it was kind of a cop-out. Plus, they're damn expensive.
I may still do something with that.
I think it depends on how good I get at using Greenstuff.
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You know, it's a shame Leviathan and Kraken are both taken, they'd make great Hive Fleet names for this...
When i suggested that i was imagining sawing the screamer in half length wise and maybe quartering it depending on how it hangs. Use A carnifex torso and join the screamer bits to the fex. Giving it a kinda wing look but allowing the really cool armor on the back to show. Green stuffing the gaps of course. Just an idea, the screamer is likely way to big for this though. been a while since ive actually seem one. And ive never seen one nest to a carnie. Maybe a tyranid warrior would be a better size fit for the screamer bits.
Dunno but its an idea.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Jay-Man McDougall wrote:When i suggested that i was imagining sawing the screamer in half length wise and maybe quartering it depending on how it hangs. Use A carnifex torso and join the screamer bits to the fex. Giving it a kinda wing look but allowing the really cool armor on the back to show. Green stuffing the gaps of course. Just an idea, the screamer is likely way to big for this though. been a while since ive actually seem one. And ive never seen one nest to a carnie. Maybe a tyranid warrior would be a better size fit for the screamer bits.
Dunno but its an idea.
Not that I really ever plan on using Harpies ever, but that could work for a Harpy if I do it right...
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:Jay-Man McDougall wrote:When i suggested that i was imagining sawing the screamer in half length wise and maybe quartering it depending on how it hangs. Use A carnifex torso and join the screamer bits to the fex. Giving it a kinda wing look but allowing the really cool armor on the back to show. Green stuffing the gaps of course. Just an idea, the screamer is likely way to big for this though. been a while since ive actually seem one. And ive never seen one nest to a carnie. Maybe a tyranid warrior would be a better size fit for the screamer bits.
Dunno but its an idea.
Not that I really ever plan on using Harpies ever, but that could work for a Harpy if I do it right...
One more idea that occured to me was, using green stuff to make webbing between the claws and under arms of Gene stealers. maybe add a dorsal fin, nice and simple shapes.
I will likely have more ideas. I hope they help.
And yes it is unfortunate that Leviathan and Kraken are names are already taken, but why not a splinter fleet? Or perhaps a smaller hive fleet like " Megalodon" or " Anenomie"
Just ideas, like i said ill likely have more. let me know if i am just going overboard, with the ideas.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Jay-Man McDougall wrote:One more idea that occured to me was, using green stuff to make webbing between the claws and under arms of Gene stealers. maybe add a dorsal fin, nice and simple shapes.
I will likely have more ideas. I hope they help.
And yes it is unfortunate that Leviathan and Kraken are names are already taken, but why not a splinter fleet? Or perhaps a smaller hive fleet like " Megalodon" or " Anenomie"
Just ideas, like i said ill likely have more. let me know if i am just going overboard, with the ideas.
The Genestealers are getting their upper claws (I'm using the old blue plastic ones) modified to be more like claw claws. But the webbing sounds like it may be good for the other places. Have a lot more planned for them, though. I'll do what I had in mind, and then see what looks like it'll look good from there.
Fleets tend to be named for mythological creatures. But perhaps I can find something else good.
And nono, not at all! I'm happy for the ideas, even if I don't use all of them, and am glad other people are excited about this.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
You should make an Old Gregg model and use it as a lictor...
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
old greg lictor....
*shudder*
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Post by: tony_nids_10
See! He instills fear...and a little ackwardness!
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Make a Kraken (or a few) like in Black Tide
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Trygons could be like underwater chinese dragons. Anyone who's played metroid fusion knows about that superspeed water dragon...That's what I'd imagine
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Okies
Glad I can help then. As my brain randomly picks up bits and throws them together Ill post them here for you.
I feel another one coming soon........
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Make a Kraken (or a few) like in Black Tide
Had this sort of idea for Trygons...with the classical kraken look, that is; I've not read Black Tide, care to explain a bit? Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I need an opinion; should I have a standardized color scheme for this fleet, or go with colors appropriate to each organism (red crabs, grey mantas, etc)
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Make a Kraken (or a few) like in Black Tide
Had this sort of idea for Trygons...with the classical kraken look, that is; I've not read Black Tide, care to explain a bit?
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Also, I need an opinion; should I have a standardized color scheme for this fleet, or go with colors appropriate to each organism (red crabs, grey mantas, etc)
They should all be dark grey/matte black. Its dark under the sea
And Black Tide is a Blood Angels novel. I won't spoil it, but the team eventually lands on a tyranid infested planet, and the 'nids have taken to the sea. The Carnifexs (I believe) mutated into a kraken form. And it would be like a classical kraken, but with barbs on everything.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Interesting. I like it. Kind of a shame they thought up something like this before I did, but at least now I know there's an in-universe precedent. Automatically Appended Next Post: Golden Eyed Scout wrote:If this plan goes through to completion, I want to play against your army.
I've entertained more then a few thoughts of making an Imperial Guard water themed army. Maybe thi thread'll give me some ideas.
Dammit. Now you have me thinking about this.
While the troops may be a bit boring/odd (rebreathers on everyone? spearguns instead of lasguns?), think of all the interesting Tank conversions. Hell, even Sentinels would let you get really creative.
You should totally go for it.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Ripper swarms were eels in the book btw,
Maybe you can use the starfish as something else, and make greenstuff eels.
That would be wicked cool
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Ripper swarms were eels in the book btw,
Maybe you can use the starfish as something else, and make greenstuff eels.
That would be wicked cool
I need a lot more practice with greenstuff before I can do that, but I'll put it on my list.
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
I dunno if youll like this idea or not but, cover your bases in Limbs and heads. Cut them so that they appear to be coming out of the base. Paint to flavor and cover the whole thing in layers of watered down glue to make it look shiney ad wet. So Itll look like your models are either swimming or crawling out of the water.
Just a thought.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Jay-Man McDougall wrote:I dunno if youll like this idea or not but, cover your bases in Limbs and heads. Cut them so that they appear to be coming out of the base. Paint to flavor and cover the whole thing in layers of watered down glue to make it look shiney ad wet. So Itll look like your models are either swimming or crawling out of the water.
Just a thought.
Not a bad idea. I think I'll do something similar for a few models.
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:Jay-Man McDougall wrote:I dunno if youll like this idea or not but, cover your bases in Limbs and heads. Cut them so that they appear to be coming out of the base. Paint to flavor and cover the whole thing in layers of watered down glue to make it look shiney ad wet. So Itll look like your models are either swimming or crawling out of the water.
Just a thought.
Not a bad idea. I think I'll do something similar for a few models.
be easy to do too, wouldnt have to spend near as much time on conversions, just cut, glue, green and paint. I like short cuts and easy fixs. After reading Sersi's thread today Im rather humbled and unwilling to take a step into the modeling world LOL. Sersi makes it looks so fantastic. I might try my hand a basing some more though.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Well, you'll never get even close to his level if you don't try at all.
Or some other crap that sounds like it belongs on a Hallmark card.
In any case, I suggest trying to not be intimidated. Showing myself to be a horrible hypocrite.
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Post by: FlammingGaunt
I like the chinese water dragon idea for the trygon, though be sure to give all these nids legs so their not screwed on land.
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Post by: Gathering Storm
I have a suggestion for your Trygon. Use the Trygon model, and give it a large tail fin (shark or whale shaped), give it a dorsal fin (an extention to it's back armour) and atempt to modify the position of the creature to make it look like it is swimming. In the fluff in the nid codex it mentions that during the invasion of Tyran that the Tyranids swam in the oceans (devouring the native hostile sea-creatures). I think Trygons were mentioned as having been able to swim as well as tunnel.
Smaller creatures would go under bigger adaptive changes so changing their form almost entirely makes sense. However I would imagine that larger creatures would go under subtle changes (webbed feet, fins, improved libs to be more suitted for swimming, larger mouth's for taking in more food etc.) Hive fleet Gorgon is an example of where the smaller nid's recieve most of the adaptions. Your Angler Fish (Mawloc) should still have a serpentine armoured tail
This is only my interpretaion so feel free to use the bits you agree with and ignore the points you don't.
Good luck with this cool project.
Yours
Gathering Storm
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
I figure most of them will slither in some way while on land. And quite a few of them are bottom-scuttlers like crabs. Most of the 'swimming' models are those that would fly in-game.
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Appreciated, 'Storm.
And yeah, most of the big creatures (with the exception of Tervigons and Tyranofexes, due to lack of models) are going to stay pretty close to where they were.
For instance, my Trygon, I believe, is going to end up as some sort of Hydra (the sea creature, not the Lernean beast)/Kraken sort of thing. Tentacles for arms (still bladed, of course), around the mouth for grasping prey, etc, but it's using almost the entirety of the Trygon model (if likely reposed a bit).
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Working on a Genestealer (yeah, I can't focus on one thing at a time), and finding it a bit difficult to model. Is it just me, or is the plastic used for the old Space Hulk Genestealers different than the standard plastic they use? It seems harder to work.
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Post by: Gathering Storm
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:
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Appreciated, 'Storm.
And yeah, most of the big creatures (with the exception of Tervigons and Tyranofexes, due to lack of models) are going to stay pretty close to where they were.
For instance, my Trygon, I believe, is going to end up as some sort of Hydra (the sea creature, not the Lernean beast)/Kraken sort of thing. Tentacles for arms (still bladed, of course), around the mouth for grasping prey, etc, but it's using almost the entirety of the Trygon model (if likely reposed a bit).
You probably don't need to give it tentacles for arms, the arms it comes with are pretty neat (I own a Trygon). I really like the idea of it being like a Hydra. Maybe you could have an unlucky SM trapped in its jaws.hehehehe. The Trygon/Mawloc kit is very versitile so have fun with your converting.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Gathering Storm wrote:You probably don't need to give it tentacles for arms, the arms it comes with are pretty neat (I own a Trygon). I really like the idea of it being like a Hydra. Maybe you could have an unlucky SM trapped in its jaws.hehehehe.
They are indeed. Wanted to try for something a bit more unique, though. Perhaps I'll do some kind of hybrid between scything talons and tentacles. Or just add tentacles elsewhere. Hmm...
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Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:Gathering Storm wrote:You probably don't need to give it tentacles for arms, the arms it comes with are pretty neat (I own a Trygon). I really like the idea of it being like a Hydra. Maybe you could have an unlucky SM trapped in its jaws.hehehehe.
They are indeed. Wanted to try for something a bit more unique, though. Perhaps I'll do some kind of hybrid between scything talons and tentacles. Or just add tentacles elsewhere. Hmm...
Lovely big feeder tentecales ensnaring a Space Smurf...
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Gathering Storm wrote:Lovely big feeder tentecales ensnaring a Space Smurf...
Heh. This army is going to be like 20% victims, 80% Tyranids.
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Post by: MasterDRD
Interesting thought... Since the planet they're on is an aquatic world, wouldn't anyone fighting them have to fight them underwater? Are there human colonies underwater, ala Bioshock? Or is it an uninhabited world humanwise? (I imagine if it's the latter, the Imperium would rather just virus bomb it to all hell than go down and fight to defend it)
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
I'm picturing undersea domes, as well as tiny portions of land (enough that the couple of beach scenes I'm planning make sense ).
Space Marines can hold their breath for like a week and a half, Imperial Guard would be either natives or given the proper gear to handle the environment, Necrons and Demons wouldn't care, and Eldar and Tau undoubtedly have the tech to handle something like that.
Though I picture their primary theoretical opponent to be basic humans/guardsmen native to the planet.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Hai guys!
First draft, so to speak.
Unpainted thus far, of course.
I plan on trying to shave down the ends of his face tendrils so they taper to points.
The shell is held on with sticky-tack for now.
I'm thinking of cutting his claws and repositioning on his other hand.
Want to add webbing between his fingers.
Unsure whether to remove his tail or not.
And obviously my GS-fu needs a lot of work.
Opinions? Ideas? Criticisms? Anything? Automatically Appended Next Post: And the last of the items I needed for the Zoanthropes came in the mail today, so once I reconsititute some of my paint ( GW's pots are so horrible) I should be able to get some of those up and created (the way they're constructed, some of it will need to be painted before being put together; you'll see what I mean).
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
No comments on this one?
More to come soon, but need to work on it...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Not sold on the shell as is. Think it may look better if you chop a bit more of the back off so it sits a little lower, looks a little 'perched' at the moment. Possibly a shell with a slightly wider opening, but that may be a bit too big a shell then.
Edit: Always wanted to make some kind of underwater scene using the old titan crew figures, they seemed to have a bit of that deep sea diver look going for them.
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Post by: Laughing God
Very origional, keep it up!
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Post by: Golden Eyed Scout
You should try and make Garry from SpongeBob. *Spore mine* Cough Cough.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Gary mines would be very amusing
I love the originality here! Keep it up!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
monkeytroll wrote:Not sold on the shell as is. Think it may look better if you chop a bit more of the back off so it sits a little lower, looks a little 'perched' at the moment. Possibly a shell with a slightly wider opening, but that may be a bit too big a shell then.
It's sitting a bit higher on him than it will once finished, due to the sticky-tack, but not by much. I'm going to try to shave it down a bit more. The problem is the opening isn't, well, much of an opening. Tried some bigger ones, but they looked a bit ridiculous. Maybe I'll try looking for a good middleground. Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm so naming my first Tyrannofex Gary.
And thanks again, all, for the feedback. Really looking for a lot of opinions on this stuff, as I'm not really sure what looks good and what could use work, as well as advice from those more experienced with modeling. Automatically Appended Next Post: monkeytroll wrote:Always wanted to make some kind of underwater scene using the old titan crew figures, they seemed to have a bit of that deep sea diver look going for them.
Not familiar with these...
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Post by: vent
Didn't I see these guys in Coilfang Reservoir from WoW?
Looking good, I especially like the eye-stalks!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
vent wrote:Didn't I see these guys in Coilfang Reservoir from WoW?
Looking good, I especially like the eye-stalks!
Thank you.
...and that's actually a pretty good idea. Maybe I'll model my Raveners something like that...
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Post by: ph34r
Are those face tentacles made of pasta?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I was wondering that too ph34r. If so, interesting idea.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
ph34r wrote:Are those face tentacles made of pasta?
Heh. No. A bit too brittle.
They're rubber(ish), but at that length they don't really hang/swing much.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
What if you put some heat to them? Might help shape them more.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
tony_nids_10 wrote:What if you put some heat to them? Might help shape them more.
I might try it, but they're pretty flexible as-is. It's just that when they're that short, they don't have the weight to curve.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I see. Going longer on them might make them look a little off... Hmmm What about some greenstuff?
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
tony_nids_10 wrote:I see. Going longer on them might make them look a little off... Hmmm What about some greenstuff?
May give it a try. Still in the experimentation stage on this one.
Honestly my best bet is probably cannibalizing a box of the new ones for the Ymgarl 'stealer faces, but I like the custom touch.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I really think the custom look will fit way better with what you are doing! You've come up with a very cool idea and it is bound to have a bump or two in the road. I am absolutely going to keep an eye on this thread!
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Post by: MasterDRD
you should really put some webbing/fins type stuff on the arms and legs with greenstuff... It's to help them swim faster, naturally.
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Post by: Tim the Biovore
Well, that Gene-crab looks pretty awesome.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
MasterDRD wrote:you should really put some webbing/fins type stuff on the arms and legs with greenstuff... It's to help them swim faster, naturally.
Ooh, good idea. Thinking Spider-Man-esque armpit webbing, in addition to the finger-webbing I had planned.
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Post by: Jay-Man McDougall
I love that gene stealer with the shell on its back. That is a really great idea. That particular shell i believe is just a wee bit too short for the genestealer. otherwiseits exactly the right shape. I really hope the base coat sticks to it properly for you, it likely will I really dont know, just a concern that poped into my head while looking at it.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Jay-Man McDougall wrote:I love that gene stealer with the shell on its back. That is a really great idea. That particular shell i believe is just a wee bit too short for the genestealer. otherwiseits exactly the right shape. I really hope the base coat sticks to it properly for you, it likely will I really dont know, just a concern that poped into my head while looking at it.
Yeah, I need to find a shell a bit bigger, but not -too- big.
And I'm not sure I'll basecoat the shell. I may just drybrush it with the general colors of the 'stealer (well, the colors I intend to paint him, I mean, not that blue), so it still looks like itself, but fits better with the animal inside.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Alternate choice for the shell for the Genestealers. Unsure if it looks good. Initially I thought it was a bit big, but now the first one looks too small.
Would also probably cut off his tail to let it sit tilted a bit lower, but not sure.
So anyway.
Need lots of opinions on this.
Post away.
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Post by: The Good Green
I'm gonna say: go with the bigger shell. It looks more like the beast is coming out if it, rather than just being a thing on it's back.
I think the smaller shell could work, but I'd make the genestealer smaller somehow (shorten/get rid of the legs, less arms). Are some of them gonna have tentacles?
The head looks great. So creepy and humorous at the same time. 
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Post by: Brotherjulian
I agree that most nid creatures wouldn't need to adapt too much from their basic forms, but going with the prehistoric sea creature look I nominate trilobytes and horseshoe crabs. Small ones would be perfect for ripper swarms and larger versions might be good for other nasties.
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Post by: B00M_H3ADSH07
with the starfish ripper swarms i would use something else-swarms of small fishes?
its just that starfish-although ravenous, just dont seem...hungry...ferocious...niddish?
plus with the feeder tendrils on the gaunt things, i feel that it would be better that you used the standard feeder tendrils and GS'ed them a bit to make them more to your liking-rather than use the rubber stuff.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
The Good Green wrote:I'm gonna say: go with the bigger shell. It looks more like the beast is coming out if it, rather than just being a thing on it's back.
I think the smaller shell could work, but I'd make the genestealer smaller somehow (shorten/get rid of the legs, less arms). Are some of them gonna have tentacles?
The head looks great. So creepy and humorous at the same time.
I may, in fact, give some of them tentacles. Not sure yet. Sooo many other things in the army are going to have tentacles. And I'm going to shave down the feeder tendrils/mouthparts to make them a little more tentacle-esque, tapering to points. Automatically Appended Next Post: B00M_H3ADSH07 wrote:with the starfish ripper swarms i would use something else-swarms of small fishes?
its just that starfish-although ravenous, just dont seem...hungry...ferocious...niddish?
plus with the feeder tendrils on the gaunt things, i feel that it would be better that you used the standard feeder tendrils and GS'ed them a bit to make them more to your liking-rather than use the rubber stuff.
Like I said. I had starfish, and they were an appropriate size. They're not the only ripper swarms I plan on making.
And I don't have any of the 'standard' feeder tendrils yet. Need to save some money and buy a box of the new Genestealers.
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Post by: stinlin
I have to say, I truly love how goofy the stealers look. Like, they just look dumb in a GOOD way. You've done a good job so far - keep it up!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Brotherjulian wrote: I agree that most nid creatures wouldn't need to adapt too much from their basic forms, but going with the prehistoric sea creature look I nominate trilobytes and horseshoe crabs. Small ones would be perfect for ripper swarms and larger versions might be good for other nasties.
It seems we think alike, Julian. If you look in my first post, it actually mentions both of those are other possible Ripper choices. Good to know someone else likes the idea!
I plan on doing something like this soon, but the starfish were just something easy to start things on, and get the basing down.
May be a little difficult, need to figure out how to make those at a size where they would fit several to a base yet still be recognizable. Automatically Appended Next Post: stinlin wrote:I have to say, I truly love how goofy the stealers look. Like, they just look dumb in a GOOD way. You've done a good job so far - keep it up!
Wasn't quite shooting for goofy...maybe they'll look a bit creepier once I paint them... =/
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Post by: The Fox Lord
Must go to craft store...Must buy big bag of shells...Must spawn Snailagon...
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Post by: dbsamurai
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:
First draft, so to speak.
Unpainted thus far, of course.
I plan on trying to shave down the ends of his face tendrils so they taper to points.
The shell is held on with sticky-tack for now.
I'm thinking of cutting his claws and repositioning on his other hand.
Want to add webbing between his fingers.
Unsure whether to remove his tail or not.
And obviously my GS-fu needs a lot of work.
Why not make one big one and have it be the brood lord, and do all the other stealers as shell less hermit crabs? could be easily done, use gaunt bodies with the head where the tail should be and stick the stealer arms on? think it's look suitably...crabby? hermity?
As to the pyrovore...um, fire doesn't really do much underwater unless it's something like phosphorus or thermite...why not omit the pyrovore? template weapons would disipate underwater too fast anyways...
likin' the idea for sea snakes on the mawlocs and such but I think going the alien route is too redundant...why not look at some of the actual fish instead? cause like I KNOW there could be some creepy gak in there for a tyrant to look like...hell why not go with one of the other suggestions of an aqua dino? oooo or the leviathan from that disney movie "Atlantis"
Also thought on how to make your spores look more "aquatic"
PotC davy jones style!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
The Fox Lord wrote:Must go to craft store...Must buy big bag of shells...Must spawn Snailagon...
Sneak preview.
Though it's my Tyrannofex, not Tervigon.
 Automatically Appended Next Post: dbsamurai wrote:Why not make one big one and have it be the brood lord, and do all the other stealers as shell less hermit crabs? could be easily done, use gaunt bodies with the head where the tail should be and stick the stealer arms on? think it's look suitably...crabby? hermity?
Interesting idea. I'll have to work on something like that. We'll see what I can come up with...
dbsamurai wrote:As to the pyrovore...um, fire doesn't really do much underwater unless it's something like phosphorus or thermite...why not omit the pyrovore? template weapons would disipate underwater too fast anyways...
Yeah, honestly the Pyrovore is only on the list for completeness' sake. I'll likely leave him for last, if I do one at all.
dbsamurai wrote:likin' the idea for sea snakes on the mawlocs and such but I think going the alien route is too redundant...why not look at some of the actual fish instead? cause like I KNOW there could be some creepy gak in there for a tyrant to look like...hell why not go with one of the other suggestions of an aqua dino? oooo or the leviathan from that disney movie "Atlantis"
Also thought on how to make your spores look more "aquatic"
PotC davy jones style!
The Mawlocs I have big plans for. Trygons not so much, but I do have some ideas.
More aquatic? They're giant clam shells, how do you get more aquatic than that?! Add fins?
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Post by: The Fox Lord
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:The Fox Lord wrote:Must go to craft store...Must buy big bag of shells...Must spawn Snailagon...
Sneak preview. Though it's my Tyrannofex, not Tervigon.
I've got one of those shells sitting on a coffe table in my living room, cool.
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Post by: Morgrim
Hive fleet Charybdis, the monstrous whirlpool descended from Typhon that stood beside Scylla.
Or Hive fleet Scylla, for that matter.
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Post by: dbsamurai
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:More aquatic? They're giant clam shells, how do you get more aquatic than that?! Add fins?
No do like davey jones, add littler crustaceans like barnicles and such. I just recall you mentioning you felt the clam's tentacles were a little abrupt, tacking smaller things on would help blend them in, kinda like plague marines, where they have a lot of open sores and stuff usually GSed on (cause metal models are a pain to mess with...)
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Morgrim wrote:Hive fleet Charybdis, the monstrous whirlpool descended from Typhon that stood beside Scylla.
Or Hive fleet Scylla, for that matter.
Had the same idea, actually. I think I may end up going with it. Charybdis, that is. Automatically Appended Next Post: dbsamurai wrote:No do like davey jones, add littler crustaceans like barnicles and such. I just recall you mentioning you felt the clam's tentacles were a little abrupt, tacking smaller things on would help blend them in, kinda like plague marines, where they have a lot of open sores and stuff usually GSed on (cause metal models are a pain to mess with...)
I have a bunch of tiny snail shells and such that I plan on using to spruce up the larger surfaces, but that'll be after painting them.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Update.
It seems like the rubber-silicone-whatever-stuff that those tentacles are made out of doesn't really want to cooperate. I'm probably not going to be able to shave down the ends to taper to points.
Of course, they weren't acting quite like I wanted anyway. I'm thinking I'll use them for some of the larger projects, as they act properly while of greater length.
The problem now, is, what do I do with the Genestealers, mouth-wise? Keep the plan as is and just go with it? Buy some new Genestealers and cannibalize their heads for the feeder tendrils? Some other solution altogether?
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Post by: Icelord
Dude are those warlords saga of the storm cards next to your tyrant guard on your first page pic? I played that game for years! Automatically Appended Next Post: Brotherjulian wrote: I agree that most nid creatures wouldn't need to adapt too much from their basic forms, but going with the prehistoric sea creature look I nominate trilobytes and horseshoe crabs. Small ones would be perfect for ripper swarms and larger versions might be good for other nasties.
I love this idea. What you could do for swarms is mix in with some of the star fish some necron scarabs and green stuff them to look like the troglibites. Already has there shape. Would make amazing swarms.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Icelord wrote:Dude are those warlords saga of the storm cards next to your tyrant guard on your first page pic? I played that game for years!
They are indeed. Sargok deck I use to teach new players. Love that game. Wanted to do cosplay as an Accordlands Elf at Gencon one year, but it never materialized. A shame so few in my local group still play.
Icelord wrote:Brotherjulian wrote: I agree that most nid creatures wouldn't need to adapt too much from their basic forms, but going with the prehistoric sea creature look I nominate trilobytes and horseshoe crabs. Small ones would be perfect for ripper swarms and larger versions might be good for other nasties.
I love this idea. What you could do for swarms is mix in with some of the star fish some necron scarabs and green stuff them to look like the troglibites. Already has there shape. Would make amazing swarms.
I think I'll keep the swarms distinct, species-wise, though I did consider converting some scarabs like that.
It'll be something for later, need to work on my greenstuffing a lot before I try something like that.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Well, looks like bits of this project have become a bit stalled.
Tried Dremel-ing the ends of the Mycetic Spore tentacles, only to have it grind down the stone more than the tentacles. Man, paper clips are tougher than I expected. Looks like I'm going to have to go back to filing them by hand.
Need to reconstitute my paints before I can get the Zoanthropes done, which is quite frustrating as I have everything else set for them.
And unsure where to go with the Genestealers, as I don't know if their feeder tendrils look good or if I'm going to have to spring for a box of the new ones to cannibalize.
And the other projects just aren't close enough in work to post anything.
But!
Fear not, this blog is not dead. Just a momentary pause.
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Post by: kanelom
mate this is seriously some crazy original stuff. Really keep on it! I like the idea of only the brood lord having a shell, and just keep the other stealers all googly looking
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Post by: AlexGrannell
Awesome keep it up!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
kanelom wrote:mate this is seriously some crazy original stuff. Really keep on it! I like the idea of only the brood lord having a shell, and just keep the other stealers all googly looking
Really appreciated. It's good to hear praise.
Still trying to figure out what to do to differentiate the broodlord. I might end up doing this. Not sure yet.
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Post by: NiiloTimantti
What do the feeder tendrils from the Genestealer box look like? I haven't got any Tyranids and was just wondering. Are they like the bits that are dangling from the mouth like the rubbery parts you got on the 'stealer in the 3 pics on page 3 where you got the 2 different sized shells? Would it be possible to just GS those, you'd save money not having to buy a box of 'stealers just for the feeder tendrils?
Keep up the good work!
This is a very original idea you're going for and you're bound to run into all sorts of little problems that'll slow your progress, don't let them get you down 
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
THese are the coolest nids ive ever seen! keep up the good work!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
NiiloTimantti wrote:What do the feeder tendrils from the Genestealer box look like? I haven't got any Tyranids and was just wondering. Are they like the bits that are dangling from the mouth like the rubbery parts you got on the 'stealer in the 3 pics on page 3 where you got the 2 different sized shells? Would it be possible to just GS those, you'd save money not having to buy a box of 'stealers just for the feeder tendrils?
Those are the ones from the box.
I've thought about trying to greenstuff them, but I'm, so far, terrible at using the stuff. Maybe later on once I've gotten more practice using it.
(pictures not mine. I suppose I probably shouldn't hotlink them...)
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Post by: Gathering Storm
What about using the Chapterhouse Studios 'stealer heads.
Link
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Post by: Munch Munch!
What a lovely and original idea! You know, you can still use names like Kraken or Leviathan. These hive fleets have split up into smaller branches called 'splinter fleets." That way, they can attack more planets and harvest more biomass that will be shared throughout the tyranid fleets. Also, on an ocean planet, there'd be alot of ways to live. Massive airtight underwater cities (like rapture from bioshock) Gigantic ships for the rich (basically a large cruise ship multiplied by about a thousand, but equipped with everything for everyday life with some pleasures.) small fishing communities set on the planet's few islands, and automated docking platforms with just a few personnel to supply the large cities.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Gathering Storm wrote:What about using the Chapterhouse Studios 'stealer heads.
Link
Considered that too. I guess I just need to figure out how I want them to look. Automatically Appended Next Post: Munch Munch! wrote:What a lovely and original idea! You know, you can still use names like Kraken or Leviathan. These hive fleets have split up into smaller branches called 'splinter fleets." That way, they can attack more planets and harvest more biomass that will be shared throughout the tyranid fleets. Also, on an ocean planet, there'd be alot of ways to live. Massive airtight underwater cities (like rapture from bioshock) Gigantic ships for the rich (basically a large cruise ship multiplied by about a thousand, but equipped with everything for everyday life with some pleasures.) small fishing communities set on the planet's few islands, and automated docking platforms with just a few personnel to supply the large cities.
Why thank you.
And yeah, I know, but I thought to give the sub-fleet its own name to differentiate it a bit.
Heh. I hope that poster earlier in this thread does indeed start up an aquatic IG army like he said he was thinking about. Lots of possibilities there.
And at the very least, that's some more ideas for terrain.
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Post by: Fallenbourne
I love this nid concept one of the most original I have seen. Few things, have you tried possibly greenstuffing your own heads? Also check out warpshadows picture gallery. More specifically this
http://album.warpshadow.com/v/album50/Genestealers/?g2_page=1
His stealer conversion gave me and idea for one of my lictors. But check that out great stuff.
Also you should make a carni or tyrant based off of the Kraken from the new Clash of the Titans. Or maybe a bio-tian instead of a carni. As to differentiate a broodlord. The shell is a good place to start, something bigger or more gnarled then the rest. Or just a larger build, you could try using a warrior body with the tail shaved down.
Well just my $.02
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Post by: TempusCorvus
I love the Idea for this hive fleet, although I'm not so sure about the use of dead sea critters for everything. Still, it's a cool concept. For the Tyrannofex, maybe you should have the front of a 'fex sticking out of the shell, sort of like a giant hermit crab.
Morgrim wrote:Hive fleet Charybdis, the monstrous whirlpool descended from Typhon that stood beside Scylla.
Or Hive fleet Scylla, for that matter.
Sorry to be nitpicky, but as a Mythology nerd, I have to point out that Charybdis was not one of Typhon's children. She was a sea nymph, daughter of Poseidon, and she was turned into a sea monster by Zeus.
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Post by: Munch Munch!
TempusCorvus wrote:
Sorry to be nitpicky, but as a Mythology nerd, I have to point out that Charybdis was not one of Typhon's children. She was a sea nymph, daughter of Poseidon, and she was turned into a sea monster by Zeus.
I knew it! I didn't want to say anything 'cause I wasn't a 100 % sure, but it turns out, I was right!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Fallenbourne wrote:I love this nid concept one of the most original I have seen. Few things, have you tried possibly greenstuffing your own heads? Also check out warpshadows picture gallery. More specifically this
http://album.warpshadow.com/v/album50/Genestealers/?g2_page=1
His stealer conversion gave me and idea for one of my lictors. But check that out great stuff.
Also you should make a carni or tyrant based off of the Kraken from the new Clash of the Titans. Or maybe a bio-tian instead of a carni. As to differentiate a broodlord. The shell is a good place to start, something bigger or more gnarled then the rest. Or just a larger build, you could try using a warrior body with the tail shaved down.
Well just my $.02
I totally don't have the skill yet to greenstuff my own heads. Project for later, after a looooooot of practice on other stuff.
Wow, fantastic conversions.
My Tyrant is going to sort of look something like that, vaguely.
And yeah, I was thinking about giving the broodlord a spikier shell, maybe extra arms and such. Want to get the normal ones looking closer to where I want them, will branch out from there.
Thanks for the suggestions! Some good stuff there!
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Munch Munch! wrote:TempusCorvus wrote:
Sorry to be nitpicky, but as a Mythology nerd, I have to point out that Charybdis was not one of Typhon's children. She was a sea nymph, daughter of Poseidon, and she was turned into a sea monster by Zeus.
I knew it! I didn't want to say anything 'cause I wasn't a 100 % sure, but it turns out, I was right!
Just remembered it at the whirlpool that hung out opposite Scylla, myself.
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TempusCorvus wrote:I love the Idea for this hive fleet, although I'm not so sure about the use of dead sea critters for everything. Still, it's a cool concept. For the Tyrannofex, maybe you should have the front of a 'fex sticking out of the shell, sort of like a giant hermit crab.
Most of it is going to be based on the normal 'nid models, just with alterations, like the Genestealers.
Like I said, the Ripper Swarms were just a convenient thing to get done, heh.
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...
Bah.
warpshadow beat me to it, and much more intricately than I would ever be able to do.
*sigh*
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Post by: Fallenbourne
Yeah but he only made 2 different sea nids. Your doing an entire army. Keep at it, its gonna be amazing when your done
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Fallenbourne wrote:Yeah but he only made 2 different sea nids. Your doing an entire army. Keep at it, its gonna be amazing when your done
I should figure out how he did those mouth tendrils. They look good, though I can't imagine they're just greenstuff. Would be too easy to break, and tough to get into that shape, I'd think...
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Post by: Fallenbourne
My guess is he used solid wire or a bent paperclip and then rolled the GS around it. The owner of the gallery is Pedro Navarro, so it may be the Navarro that scuplts for chapterhouse studios but I dont know. I think he has an account here on dakkadakka so maybe try messaging him and asking
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Post by: Munch Munch!
Pedro Navarro has a website call Buglands, a massive scuplting project. And, iirc, he's also a member on dakka, under the username "Navarro".
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Munch Munch! wrote:Pedro Navarro has a website call Buglands, a massive scuplting project. And, iirc, he's also a member on dakka, under the username "Navarro".
Ahh, yes, saw this site a few years ago. Great stuff.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Holy crap, an update! (sort of)
Finally found some files that would work on the Mycetic Spore tentacles. Had to get some heavy-duty metal files from Home Depot. Paper clips are a lot stronger than you'd think. So the spores are back on track. Need to figure out how I'm going to coat the insides of the shells still, though, as I don't want to leave them just shell (especially with the GS covering over the junctures to the tendrils), but I also don't want to use GS for all that, as it would take a ton of it (though that may be the answer I end up having to take).
Still trying to figure out how I want to do the Genestealer feeder tendrils. I may end up going with the Ymgarl 'stealer heads from the new boxed set, or even the resin ones made by that third-party person. Kind of a shame, wanted to design my own, but I'm not sure the silicone-rubber bits look right.
Still need to try to reconstitute some of my paints so I can get the Zoanthropes going, as I'm excited about those. I think they should look good, but we'll see.
Aside from that, more of just planning and sketching out ideas.
New pictures coming soon.
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Post by: Gathering Storm
Yay, an update, sort of....
Glad your keepin at it, just today I was wondering what had happened to this thread. Cosmic timing at it's best.
Looking forwards to seeing the Zoey's.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Sorry to let this go for so long, but a lot of stuff came up. Finally found some time again, and with renewed local interest in 40K among a few friends I'm once again motivated to work on this (if more slowly than I'd like).
Finally managed to file down the tips of the tendrils on the Mycetic Spore, after destroying a Dremel file attachment in an attempt to do it the fast way. Like I said, paper clips are stronger than I expected. But at least that means they aren't going to bend during transport of my army. About to start work on the inside of the shell.
Need to wait a couple weeks on the prototype Genestealer (for the new box with the Ymgarl heads) and the Zoanthropes (for some paint); damn christmas season rolling '6's on my wallet.
Writing out some ideas for appropriate terrain, too, so the army doesn't look out of place in a snowy forest or something.
Anyway, my point is really: expect more regular updates here again. And comments on what's here already are more than welcome!
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Post by: The Fox Lord
Good to see your still at it, hope to see some new pics soon.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
*sigh* You get 2 measly tentacle-faces in a box of 8 Genestealers?
Well, it's enough to start, at least.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Good to see this is still ongoing, even if progress is slow. Look forward to seeing what comes....
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Post by: Gathering Storm
Nightbringer's Chosen wrote:*sigh* You get 2 measly tentacle-faces in a box of 8 Genestealers?
Well, it's enough to start, at least.
You could order the cool Ymgral heads from Chapterhouse Studios if your looking for tentacled faces. Link Glad you are still working on this project.
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Post by: D.Smith
Rather than using GS for the large areas have you considered buying a box of milliput or something similar? for half the price of GS i got a box with (by weight AND general size) 10 times more actual "stuff"
You can pick it up from model railroad stores/ hobby stores or the good old internet
Dan
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Post by: shingouki
this wip is looking really cool thus far.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
D.Smith wrote:Rather than using GS for the large areas have you considered buying a box of milliput or something similar? for half the price of GS i got a box with (by weight AND general size) 10 times more actual "stuff"
You can pick it up from model railroad stores/ hobby stores or the good old internet
Dan
Not familiar with it...I'll check it out, thanks for the suggestion!
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Post by: Perkustin
I like the idea, and i like the 'Hermit-stealer' quite a bit, plus the starfish swarms are pretty neato.
SECOND POINT:
Erm congrats on getting 5 pages out of about 8 pictures...... I know there are no rules about what constitutes a proper update but......
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Post by: Chaos Lord Gir
Amazing idea and conept.
Giant sea horse Trygon. That is all
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Perkustin wrote:I like the idea, and i like the 'Hermit-stealer' quite a bit, plus the starfish swarms are pretty neato.
SECOND POINT:
Erm congrats on getting 5 pages out of about 8 pictures...... I know there are no rules about what constitutes a proper update but......
Thanks.
A lot of it has been brainstorming and suggestions. Should I make a separate link for ideas or something? It's my first modeling blog, I'm not quite sure of standard operating procedure.
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Post by: Arakasi
Your blog, do what you want. Preferably keep it together! I think it may have been more surprise than critism - you tend to get more conversation with pictures - but it's not an exact science. It is an interesting and novel concept though
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Post by: djphranq
This is too cool! Keep it up!
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
djphranq wrote:This is too cool! Keep it up!
I am. Finally got all the stuff for my Zoanthropes, just need to get off my ass and assemble them.
And thanks for the encouragement!
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Post by: lindsay40k
Necromancy for subscription.
I made a Haruspex out of a Lobster's carapace back before my vegan days. I'll warn you that crustacean carapaces do weaken with age and might need some kind of reinforcement to survive tabletop use.
I plan to gather crab claws from seagull feeding sites next time I visit the Isle of Mann for conversion work... it's an issue I'll be needing to resolve, myself.
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Post by: Nightbringer's Chosen
Man, I really need to pick this project back up. Have all of the stuff for several of the things, just got really busy with school and needing to rebuild some damaged models from my main army.
Thanks for the inspiration to get back on it.
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Post by: Cyrixiinus
Mantis shrimp for lictors?
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Post by: RiTides
No problem but no more posts in this P&M blog unless the OP wishes to revive it, since it's 4 years old
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