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Darkvoidof40k wrote: ---Collected, contributed, written and posted by Darkvoidof40k--- (Giving credit where credit is due  ) Collection of images (drawings by Vignor and Colour Scheme Creator images by Tony_Nids_10) Original Concept Chapter Master  'Typical' Sergeant  Standard Battle-Brother  Terminator Sergeant  Terminator  Chapter badge/emblem/logo concept    Tony_nids_10 wrote:The bottom one might just be the winner!
Human Auxiliary concept   Dreadnought concept  Battle-Brother Vignoris  Captain Tonynidious in the Mantle of Krius  Standard Bearer Samus  Scout Sergeant Bi'Mek  Atrum Inritus in training 
Background/fluff
As for the fluff on Atrum Inritus I mentioned earlier, I'm thinking of something like Tzeentch took interest in him, turning its will upon his mortal mind. Though he resisted, refusing with all his might, he could not hope to stand up to the might of Tzeentch. Jedediah Storm, Chief Librarian, hastily erected wards and chanted powerful incantations of purity and righteousness. With this new power, Atrum found within himself the inner-strength to shrug-off the call of the Ruinous Powers. However, there was a small part of him that was curious at the power that could be gained.. curious of what it would be like to serve only himself. Tzeentch, capricous and unknowable, decided to take that part of Atrum's mind, and made it physical. A copy of Atrum, bolstered by dark power to insane levels, who was completely against everything The Original stood for. These two identical yet so different beings, one holy, one not, fought a titanic battle before the entire third company. Though Atrum had much courage, his "twin" had been born with the strength of the warp. A killing blow would merely slow him down; a hit from him felt like an Autocannon. Atrum could not win, and was cast down, his body ravaged and severely damaged. Yet still he fought on, firing with pistol in hand as a last defiant act of faith. But as quickly as it had been born, the copy was whisked away by eldritch powers. Despite that near-fatal conflict, Atrum refused to be interred into a Dreadnought, insisting he was not badly wounded enough. Though it took many months, he eventually returned back to fighting-form. Though he had suffered dearly in the ordeal with his "copy", he came out of it - his faith had been tested to the utmost and he had not been found wanting. Although it pained him to say it, Tzeentch had actually helped him. It had removed all doubt about his faith, about the Emperor. About Mankind's manifest destiny to rule the universe. The very thing that sought to corrupt him had made him uncorruptable. Company layout idea's Also, I'm thinking that perhaps the company lay out is like this: First Company - Veteran company - The Astartans - ~300 Space Marines - Captain Garus Second Company - Battle company - The Kings of War - ~100 Space Marines - Captain Asherian Third Company - Battle company - The Incorruptable - ~100 Space Marines Captain Inritus Fourth Company - Battle company - ??? - ~100 Space Marines - Captain ??? Fifth " Sixth " Seventh - armoured company - The Ironhides - Assortment of Heavy armour - Captain ??? Basically, not giving two about the little blue book. One extra large Veteran company - allowing for 6 Elite choices in-game - Battle companies - no effect in-game - Seventh and eighth company - Armoured companies - Allows for 6 Heavy support choices - Nineth and Tenth companies - Scout companies - in-game effect: something to do with Scout Captain Bi'Mek, perhaps? Or maybe two scout squads for every 1 Troop slot. All that allows for a very elite, very stealthy, or very heavy playstyle. Perhaps, as an army special rule, when making an army list you can choose to either double your number of elites or heavy support slots? And perhaps, there are no assault squads, as such, but any Tactical squad may replace its standard armament of a boltgun (they shouldn't have pistols! They never did before!) with a CCW and Bolt pistol, and they may also take Jump packs, and if they do then they become Fast Attack. So potentially we could see a Scout, Tank and Veteran heavy army forming from all this. Rules: Anyway, watch this space for: Chapter Standard Bearer, Ancient Samus Atrum Inritus,The Uncorruptable One, Captain of the Third Company 'The Paragons of Faith' Stealth Captain Bi'Mek of the Tenth Krius, The Everliving Honoured Brother Vignoris, Giantslayer, Champion of the Chapter, The Shield-Master, The Undefeated Already written up another character last night.. he's all about brute force and smashing his weapon into enemies until death by blaunt trauma. Adrius Curzon, High Chaplain of the Emperor's Shields WS: 5 BS: 5 S: 5 T: 4 W: 3 I: 5 A: 5 LD: 10 Sv: 2+ Unit type: Independant character Unit composition: 1 (unique) Wargear: Terminator armour Rosarius Heavy Flamer Crozius Arcanum Special Rules: Honour of the Chapter Liturgies of Fury - Adrius and any squad he has joined have the Furious Charge Universal Special Rule and may re-roll all failed 'to-hit' rolls on the turn they charge into close-combat. ^ Basically, a beefed-up Chaplain of insanity. He is a warrior, who makes other warriors even better. Him + oh say, I don't know.. a unit of Terminators with Lightning Claws? Or TH/ SS, naturally .
Tonius Niddius, Lord of the Shields, Exemplar heroica ( WIP model from the other thread)  Tonius Niddius, Lord of the Shields - 280pts WS: 6 BS: 5 S: 4 T: 4 W: 4 I: 5 A: 4 LD: 10 Sv: 2+ Unit type: Independant character Unit composition: 1 (unique)
Wargear: Artificer armour, The Emperor's Shield, Bolt pistol, Frag grenades, Meltabombs, Purgator - This ancient Halberd has been passed down for centuries amongst the senior master's of the Chapter, for the Shields are traditional in the extreme. It is practice for the oldest - or as some would argue, most experienced, - warrior amongst their number to wield this artifact beyond prize that dates back millennia to the early days of the chapter. As the currently most senior member of the chapter, it falls to Tonius to wield it in battle once more. The long blade of this weapon runs down almost the whole length of the polearm, starting with a curved tip at the top of the shaft. Made of forgotten metals and crackling with dazzling blue energy, Purgator has tasted the blood of millions of Heretics, dissidents, Xenos and Traitors. It is even reputed to have struck a fallen Primarch at the hands of the long-deceased Master Neverus and to have been forged by The Father - Primarch of the Shields. Purgator is a Master-Crafted two-handed Power weapon that adds +2 to Tonius' strength characteristic in assault. In addition, in the first round of any assault, Tonius gains + D6 attacks as he swings it in a massive arc, able to catch several opponants at once. The Emperor's Shield - Though the details of how this relic was obtained by the Shields', it is known that the Emperor himself gifted it to them, many thousands of years ago when he still walked amongst mortal men. It is a Storm Shield, however in close-combat it grants a 2+ Invulnerable save that Tonius may take instead of his normal armor save. Helm of The Father - This great relic was worn by The Father himself, and to fall under this helm's gaze is to be judged by the Primarch. No brother in the presence of this artifact will dare take a step back while he still draws breath. Tonius, and all models in the same unit as him, are fearless and benefit from the Feel No Pain Universal Special Rule.
Special rules: Eternal Warrior, Inspirational - Tonius is a great leader of men, instilling courage into the hearts of those he commands even in the most desperate of situations, compelling them to fight harder. Where he treads, warriors rush to both defend and fight for him, even at the cost of their own lives. All friendly-models (including allies!) within 12" of Tonius are stubborn. Options: Tonius Niddius may replace his Artificer armour with the Mantle of Krius for +20pts. Krius is a legendary icon, the only warrior besides The Father to have a greater record of success than Tonius. The Mantle of Krius is a suit of Terminator armour that grants Tonius +1 Toughness. Tonius in the Mantle of Krius
Jedediah Storm, Chief Librarian of the Emperor's Shields  Jedediah Storm, Chief Librarian of the Emperor's Shields - 230pts WS: 5 BS: 5 S: 4 T: 4 W: 3 I: 5 A: 3 LD: 10 Sv: 2+ Unit type: Independant character Unit composition: 1 (unique) Wargear: Artificer armour Thunder - Master-crafted bolt pistol Lightning - Master-crafted Force Axe Psychic hood Psychic powers: Smite Might of the Ancients Null zone Ward of Protection - This power is used at the beginning of the controlling players' turn. If the Psychic test is passed, Jedediah and any unit he has joined benefit from a 4+ invulnerable save until the end of the opponants next turn. Gift of Speed - This power is used at the beginning of the controlling players' turn. If the Psychic test is passed, Jedediah and any unit he has joined will gain the Fleet Universal Special Rule and have +1 Initiative until the end of the controlling players' turn. Destructor - This power is used at the start of the controlling players' shooting phase and it counts as firing a ranged weapon in all respects. It has the following profile: Range - 12" S - 10 AP - 2 Assault 1 Imbue Fury - This power is used at the start of the controlling players' assault phase, before any charges are declared. If the Psychic test is passed, Jedediah and any unit he is with gain the Furious Charge Universal Special Rule until the end of that assault phase. Special Rules: Master Psyker - Jedediah Storm may use up to three Psychic powers per turn, including his Force Weapons' special ability to instantly kill enemies.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
300 marines 
Love the red fabric elements and the subtle gold. Looks really good.
I think shields would be cool too, but that might be hard to represent (unless you do it for assault marines, since they usually carry chainswords)
I'd probably just use regular space marine rules, although grey knight rules could also work if you really wanted to. A mix of codexii seems apropriate. Spears need a special rule.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
The assault termis with the thunder hammer/storm sheild combo will have non standard sheilds similar to the gold ones in 300
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Post by: Samus_aran115
tony_nids_10 wrote:The assault termis with the thunder hammer/storm sheild combo will have non standard sheilds similar to the gold ones in 300
I'd opt for non standard Thunder hammers too
If nothing else, you can use shields as backpacks, which would be pretty cool
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Post by: tony_nids_10
True! Though that means I will need to buy/make way more shields! I'm sad that 300 marines is the only suggestion so far...
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Astartans.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Astartes+spartans?
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Mmhmm.
Hercrulian Marines?
Pegasus Legion?
Hera's angels?
Zeus' wrath?
Persian killers?
Persian eradicators?
Persian's bane?
I like hera's angels, personally. Sounds pretty cool. Reminds me of the crimson fists and Rynn
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Hmm... those are some ideas! Remember the SM on the base of my Zoanthrope? I think I'm going to paint him up in this scheme rather than killing ANOTHER smurf
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Cool. That'll be a good way to practice the theme, and the terror in his eyes,mwahahhahaaaa!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Yeah, Its a pretty good test pc. The only problem is I am fresh out of primer at the moment... That and I need to buy someone some paints next paycheck.
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Post by: Chowderhead
I think you could benefit from using a DA upgrade sprue, It has robes, guns, termi shields that looks great, and a lot of good bitz to use.
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Post by: focusedfire
Chapter Master Achilles and his "Myrmidon Company"
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Thats what I was thinking too but I think the Black Templar one might work too with the tabbards. I'm not a huge fan of the hoods. Maybe both then
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Post by: Chowderhead
My opinion is the DA sprue, but that's because it's 10 dollars cheaper than the BT sprue, and needs no help from a tac squad. If money isn't an issue, go for the BT. If you want to save 40 bucks, DA.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Good point chowder! I was sadly unaware of the price difference 
Automatically Appended Next Post: @focusedfire- I really like that! I am surely going to use that for a vet squad at the very least.
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Post by: Chowderhead
No problem. Working from experience with both upgrade sprues, the Hooded helmets would not be a problem, and they could be used for veterans. There are many cool heads in there, and I think 6-10 head do not have a hood. There is also many cool conversion Ideas to be had with both.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I really appreciate that chowder. Your well thought and tact response doesn't fit your name
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Post by: Chowderhead
Heh, funny story about that. I actually really love chowder, and my head is (apparently) exceptionally sized. 13 is my lucky number and they all fit seamlessly. It's either that or setyuio, a forum name I commonly go by. I decided to switch things up. 
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Well it would seem that we share exceptionally large head status! My only question for you is (off subject completely) What kind of chowder tops your list of favs?
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Post by: Chowderhead
Clam. Clam is the best chowdah evah. If that doesn't tell you were i'm from, nothing will.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
You're in Maine! Or at least New England!
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Post by: camboyaz
I would choose the name Gold Crusaders, because they remind me of the Black Templars! For the Chapter Masters name, I would go with Chapter Master Gallus
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Why Gallus camboyaz? Just curiosity, it sounds like a cool name.
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Post by: focusedfire
You could also use Jason and the Argonauts but felt that Achilles was better.
So you in Portland, Bangor, Augusta? Just don't tell me that,"Ya can't get thah from herah."
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I'm located in Southern Maine near the NH border. Right in Sanford. You?
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Post by: focusedfire
I'm originally from Texas but now from all over. My wife is from Salem, Mass and likes to brag that I married a real witch.
We have to spend some time in the west to south central on our business but want to buy land and move back into the area in the next 5 years.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I like it here. Not too busy and still not 500 miles from anything either.
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Post by: svendrex
1) Thunder Spears for terminators. Same rules as thunder hammers but you get you spear and shield look that you want.
2) Dreadnoughts? you could put a shield on the arm of an Iron clad. I have seen some venerable dreads holding spears as well.
3) Relic Spears? Power spear? I know that Vulcan has a relic blade that is a spear.
4) use the blood angel book. You can get more people with close combat weapons. Gold and red are good colors to use with blood angels. The Sanguinary guard have Roman inspired armor.
5) Combat Shields? I do not know who can take them, but they can look cool.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Thanks alot svendrex! All of those are good ideas. I was leaning closer to the BA codex too. Their special units fit my needs pretty well too.
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Post by: focusedfire
@Tony- Yeah, Maine is incredible. I think we want to go further north, like Bar Harbor or Houlton North.
I have another name idea or two:
Spartan Legion
Emperors Hoplites
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Post by: Chowderhead
I like Svendrex's ideas. You could buy the PAGK NFW arms off of GW's site, and use those. The termi arms are a little jarder to come buy. Try Bitzbox or, if all other means fail, ebay.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I can def stick a spear in a termi hand. I have about 10 extra termi arms laying about.
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Post by: Chowderhead
@Focused- My father's father lives in bar harbor, and it is great. I live in a small town called Marblehead. Ask your wife about us!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
@Focused- I'm leaning twoard something with "Emperor's..." in the name. Has a nice ring to it. Any thoughts?
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Post by: focusedfire
@Chowderhead-My wife got a kick out of the mention of Marblehead. One if her GrandFathers used to build boats out there and it was a regular pllace for them to visit. God, we miss being up there.
@ Tony_nids_10- I'll work on the name ideas. Some of the names from that time period are:
Hoplites(Well Trained citizen warriors, sort of like kights. The name came from their Shields.)
Alexanders army were "Macedonians"(Macedonion Legion?)
A group of Heavy Infantry of a sufficient number to field as a fighting force were called a "Phalanx".
Most of the Armies/fighting forces of that time were named for their city State so you may be limited in those types of choices. You could take modern names to say the same thing as Hoplites,
The Emperors Shields.
The term Olympian has a ring to it(Olympian Legion, Emperors Olympians?, Olympian Phalanx?)
BTW, I'm not proposing the Trojans because of the jokes that would be made.
Hope these help. If I come up with something else I will let you know.
Later
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Post by: tony_nids_10
@focusedfire- Thanks so much! I think you hit the nail on the head with The Emperor's Shields! I think instead of companies I'm going to organize my army into phalanxs... What is the plural of Phalanx?? Either way I think I'm going to spend some time today working on fluff and research into some history for more ideas!
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Post by: whalemusic360
I was just going to suggest empreors shileds or spears.
The colors look like New Orlens Saints marines Just dont use that as your chapter logo. Or do and go all out with the joke. Chapter Master Brees!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Wow WM360, thanks for that
I really am leaning towards Emperor's Shields
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Post by: Owain
Based on the background and color scheme I can see so far:
-Golden Shields
-Emperor's Lances
-Bronze Angels
-Marines Hellenic
-Sons of Macedon
-Sons of Hellas
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
Emperor's Shields
If you're taking a close combat style for this force, then definitely, use BA.
Assault marines - instead of chainswords, use spears/swords etc. If you really want to go to town on these dudes, then you should use the Sanguinary Guard armour on ALL (yes, you read that idea right!) your models! It'd create a force that looks awesome and yet very unique.
Then, just take 60 assault marines and charge. You can't loose unless the enemy want to use the only way to be sure.
anyone get that reference?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
@Owain- Those are all pretty great ideas.
Come to think of it... I think everything I was looking to figure out has been covered! Once I get startred on the actual building of the arm I will be sure post a link to the plog!
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Post by: Chowderhead
Quick question: What's a Plog?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
painting log at least thats what it means to me
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Post by: Chowderhead
Ah. I see. I thought you mispelt "Blog". Also, the Emperor's Sheilds is a great name.
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Post by: Segef
i like "Emporer's Phalanx"
and i think i already have an idea for the emblem....
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Segef, is your avatar from a batman movie?
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Post by: vignor
APOLLODOROS Means "gift of Apollo" from the name of the god APOLLO combined with Greek doron "gift". could be the chapter master and you could use BA sanguinary gaurd the look very greek to me with body form sculpted Armour.
apothecary could be called,THAIS, means "bandage" in Greek
Librarian could be named Homer after the Greek poet
in Greek it also means "hostage, pledge" kind of fits a Librarian cause they record everything
ZOSIMUS could be a terminator
meaning "viable" or "likely to survive"
and for the chapter name blood of the emperor
im just bored hoped i helped you in any way
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Post by: Chowderhead
vignor wrote:APOLLODOROS Means "gift of Apollo" from the name of the god APOLLO combined with Greek doron "gift". could be the chapter master and you could use BA sanguinary gaurd the look very greek to me with body form sculpted Armour.
apothecary could be called,THAIS, means "bandage" in Greek
Librarian could be named Homer after the Greek poet
in Greek it also means "hostage, pledge" kind of fits a Librarian cause they record everything
ZOSIMUS could be a terminator
meaning "viable" or "likely to survive"
and for the chapter name blood of the emperor
im just bored hoped i helped you in any way
This is an awesome Idea. Also, how do you know Greek?
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Post by: vignor
chowderhead13 wrote:vignor wrote:APOLLODOROS Means "gift of Apollo" from the name of the god APOLLO combined with Greek doron "gift". could be the chapter master and you could use BA sanguinary gaurd the look very greek to me with body form sculpted Armour.
apothecary could be called,THAIS, means "bandage" in Greek
Librarian could be named Homer after the Greek poet
in Greek it also means "hostage, pledge" kind of fits a Librarian cause they record everything
ZOSIMUS could be a terminator
meaning "viable" or "likely to survive"
and for the chapter name blood of the emperor
im just bored hoped i helped you in any way
This is an awesome Idea. Also, how do you know Greek?
ive done alot of reading in my days  knowledge is power
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Samus_aran115 wrote:Astartans.
I lol'd so hard Automatically Appended Next Post: Samus_aran115 wrote:Segef, is your avatar from a batman movie?
I think its from a Pearl-jam music video
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Post by: Captain Solon
you could use my name - The spears of the emperor.
Tactical squads are called Phalanx, bolters are Doru [the spike] a xiphos [sword] is a bolt pistol.
Power armour is linothrax, and the spiritual patriarch is called Ares.
Storm shields are aspis ^_^
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, the colours aren't very greek - go more green and blue, and royal reds.
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Post by: vignor
Salamis could be the chapters planet.Salamis was the sea battle fought around Thermopylae.and the Home planet geography could be described as having large archipelagos.and the government before the arrival of the emperor of course will be city-state with epic warrior cults there tech level would have been bronze age with "God Blessed" relic machines That were ancient and terrifying to the tech level on the planet thus just being simple power weapons such as a power sword or or spears and storm shields or flying trireme battle ships
that skimmed from the oceans to land troops into battle.the chapters emblem could be as the Spartans used for there Shields the symbol Lambda for Lacedaemon or commonly know as Sparta for their shields. which is just an upside down V,The fortress monastery name could be Frourio which is just Greek for fortress. on the island of
haima (blood).company captians could carry the title Strategoi before there name which means in the basic army leader in spartan army organization they are 10 leaders to a army and there are ten company's to a SM chapter so it fits.and to pick recruits for the chapter you can go the spartan route in which neophytes are raised in the warrior cult and only the strongest make it to scout marine or Hamippos, lightly armed infantrymen supporter of a cavalryman.and begin there journey to greatness of
adeptus astartes.and the people of Salamis could worship the emperor the way ancient Greeks worshiped there gods but of course the emperor would the main man Zeus and the other gods could be primarchs and saints.and i don't want to hear any one on here say thats Hersey cause the Tallarn worship him different from the rest of the imperium.and marines and priest would preside over all ceremony and sacrifices to the emperor.ill be later to add more if you want me to PART II Marines Could field individual Painted shields or Aspis featuring the effigy of a fierce creature the marine had to hunt to finalize There Training as scout marines.and an other bit of fluff for the past is the dreaded feral orks and grots that had grown and raised WAAAAAHGS in vast Hive sized grottoes. And the most infamous waaagh! in Salamis's History was in M25 fronted by the war boss zORKxes and his waagh of Two and a half million Green skins set off on his trail of destruction across Salamis they raged across island after island in the eastern hemisphere stripping them bare and using the Looted bounty of god machines and bronze and gold to build a towering golden monstrosity of zORKxes was named stomparuclius was fielded for first time against a warrior cult from Haima 300 haimans and there commander ieonidex armed only with bronze shields and power xiphas and an attachment of twenty flying triremes from the heriodos held the relentless waagh!!! at bay for 3 days and two nights at the only suitable land pass at thermopolix were zORKxes could pass his war-machines to give the other cults a chance to prepare battle lines on the fields of promethion primus.the delaying action was ended under the golden feet of stomparuclius and gargantuan squigs .zORKxes met his defeat to the prepared lines after two years of assault The WAAGH!! was winnowed down to mere Gretchen and squigs mobs running wild.....A Hero of mysterious lineage was the only true planetary hero of Salamis was horcules a man who said traveled the planet up until the arrival of the emperor.It was said he was a man of tremendous power it is said that he killed 7 horrific creatures that came from nightmares after a cult from khronidion built 4 pillars of Khaos at key points across Salamis......tony-nid if you want more fluff id love to write it
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Post by: Fallanir
Hey, for a chapter name, what about the Golden Phalanx? Also, what about round shields? Might be difficult to do, but could add a neat Greek-like touch. What's the chapter symbol? What if you did something with lightning-bolts/olive leaves/fire? Kinda ancient Greek ideas. As far as codex, BT are neat, but they are limited in some areas, maybe you could combine BT with regular SM rules or somethin.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Wow guys! Thanks for all the ideas. I think I'm going to go with The Emperor's Shields as a chapter name.
Captain Solon wrote:
Storm shields are aspis ^_^
Also, the colours aren't very greek - go more green and blue, and royal reds.
I'm going for greek, roman, a few of the ancient civilizations of the area. Though I am going to add some more blue and greens to some of the vet squads too Thanks for the idea!
Fallanir wrote:
Hey, for a chapter name, what about the Golden Phalanx? Also, what about round shields? Might be difficult to do, but could add a neat Greek-like touch.
I think I'll use the Golden Phalanx for my sternguard or vanguard vet squads, Good call  Round shields erm I mean aspis (thanks Solon)are a must as far as I'm concerned! They will absolutely be around.
@vignor- You are my hero. That is a near perfect base for all of the fluff. Amazing work and I will be sure to give credit where it is due. Also the names and such will be used for sure in one way or another throughout the army. You're right by the way, Knowledge is power!
@Segef- I cant wait to see your idea for the chapter symbol!
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Post by: whalemusic360
I'd check chapterhouse for some numbered pads, they have some good generic ones that will work for ya.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Thanks WM360. I'm going to be picking a few things up from sites like that for my army and my little bro's salamanders army! What other sites are there for conversion bits and such?
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Post by: kaidsin
If your a making a custom chapter you can buy peices from the BT DA BA ect sets and swap for the best peices that fit your theme. I use the vanilla marine book but my sterngaurd are using the DA bodies with the robes. (blue armor red robes)
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Thats on my to do list too
I'm planning on grabbing some bits from a ton of armies, both 40k and fantasy. Needless to say this is starting to look like a money pit It'll be worth it in the long run though. I was thinking of adding in some IG units with Large amounts of changes to their look. We shall see though.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
tony_nids_10 wrote:Thats on my to do list too
I'm planning on grabbing some bits from a ton of armies, both 40k and fantasy. Needless to say this is starting to look like a money pit It'll be worth it in the long run though. I was thinking of adding in some IG units with Large amounts of changes to their look. We shall see though.
how about this:
Make a kill team first; one unit, heavily converted and go completely to town with 'em as the basis for the army - a vanguard squad would be pretty great.. no, an assault squad would be better.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Other sites with conversion bits are Paulson games, scribor, and Maxmini, tho of the 3 I have only used Paulson, and I do recomend him. Some pretty sweet wing jump packs you could use for Vang vets, among other things.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
I'm sorry, but when I first read the title I thought it said Hebrew Space Marine Ideas Needed!.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Someone (not me) should totally do that! use allies and make a rabbi inquisitor (yes I understand the irony)
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Post by: drukawski
The ancient Greeks had some very cool mythology that might fit the fluff your looking for.
Danaus had fifty daughters, his twin brother Aegyptus had fifty sons. Aegyptus decided one day that his sons should marry the Danaus' daughters. Instead Danaus and his daughters built a ship, the first ship that ever was, and fled. They landed at the city of Argos, and the people there (the Argives) granted Danaus and his daughters asylum. Eventually Aegyptus and his fifty sons found them and arrived to take Danaus' daughters. In order to spare the Argives the pain of battle, Danaus gave up his daughters, however, before giving up his daughter Danaus instructed them to kill their husbands on their wedding night. Danaus' daughters followed through, beheading their husbands during the night, all except his daughter Hypermnestra. She refused to hurt her husband, Lynceus, because he had honored her wish to remain a virgin. Eventually Lynceus and Hypermnestra go on to began a dynasty of Argive kings (the Danaan Dynasty).
All that legend could lend itself well to your space marine chapter you could work the "first ship ever built" angle and say your marines have the most advanced ships left over from the fall of man, maybe represent it by being able to take orbital bombardments as presented in codex Daemonhunters and Witchhunters.
Lynceus and Hypermnestra had a son named Abas (his name means "Father", whats sounds perfect for your Primarch/Leader) who becomes the 12th king of Argos. When Abas informs his father Lynceus of the death of Danaus, Abas is rewarded with the the shield of his grandfather Aegyptus, a shield ornate and sacred to Hera. In fact Abas was so fearsome a warrior that even AFTER his death, enemies of his royal household would run simply from the sight of this shield.
Right there you have an HQ with TH/SS, you could even say the shield forces morale checks of every unit in cc at some negative modifier. If you were to continue this theme "Sons of Abas" or "The Argives" would both work and I think both sound cool. Maybe think about stealing the rules for Grey Knight NFW, it would be represented nicely with spears.
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Post by: kaidsin
I'm planning on grabbing some bits from a ton of armies, both 40k and fantasy. Needless to say this is starting to look like a money pit
The DA conversion box is $30 canadian, that is cheaper then buying sterngaurd at 45. The kit has bodies for 5 guys with special weapons, it also has tones of conversion pieces from big to small such as terminator legs, power sword, relic blade, power fists, storm bolter, plasma pistol, flamer, metla ect are in the box too.
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Post by: vignor
how about this for the chapter emblem worked on it this morning you could do the laurels in black
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Post by: Corennus
Hmmm names for chapter:
Bronze Swords
Brotherhood of the Aquila
Brothers of the Sword
Eagle Swords
Praetors of Redemption.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Rather then get the DA vet box, get the upgrade kit. No bases or special weapons, but you get 10 instread of 5 and its cheaper.
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Post by: zing165
I love the colors. It would be cool if you but symbols of the Greek gods on the sergeants.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Great ideas all around!
@Vignor- the bottom one is great! I may use that!
I would post more but I'm tired. 6 hours of sleep in 2 days isn't nearly enough...
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Oh Void... You always pop up and inject a bit of rational thought into things. I would start with a killteam but I really don't want to buy the entire battle missions book just for those rules. I want to get some killteam games going at my FLGS so I might have to suck it up and do it.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
tony_nids_10 wrote:Great ideas all around!
@Vignor- the bottom one is great! I may use that!
I would post more but I'm tired. 6 hours of sleep in 2 days isn't nearly enough...
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Oh Void... You always pop up and inject a bit of rational thought into things. I would start with a killteam but I really don't want to buy the entire battle missions book just for those rules. I want to get some killteam games going at my FLGS so I might have to suck it up and do it.
KILL TEAM =
200pts
One unit selection from the codex
Every model counts as an individual unit.
Up to three models may be given a different USR.
That's about it I think, and I haven't EVER read the battle missions book.
BESIDES: Force first, game after. 
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Post by: kaidsin
Depending on your skill with green stuff you could make all your symbols with green stuff, even something basic or a basic wreath, put it right onto a shoulder or let them all harden on some paper and then super glue them on at your discretion.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
On Darkvoidof40k's advice I am going to start with a killteam. Already ordered some bits for these little ones and I will be starting a P&M wip thread once they come in! Automatically Appended Next Post: Off topic- Anyone interested?
The not so Great Objective Swap! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311282.page
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
So, you just doing a normal unit? Or are you pulling out all of the suggested stops?
- Sanguinary Guard armour + Jump Packs, standard SG helmets, and to make it even better (i.e. not wasting all the lovely parts!) you could make it a vanguard squad, all with power weapons. Not the best (let alone cheapest) option.. but they're actually more than half decent in BA.
Or you could use them as normal swords and weapons and make it an assault squad anyway (with the possible exception of the sergeant, who I recomment giving a power fist).
And if you have any Meltaguns left over, definitely plan to put them in this squad at some point (10-man strong units are advised).
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I will admit, I am going to use some of the lovely bits I just bought. As for the composition of the squad, haven't got that far yet
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
tony_nids_10 wrote:I will admit, I am going to use some of the lovely bits I just bought. As for the composition of the squad, haven't got that far yet
Assault squad -
-models x10
-sergeant with power weapon/or fist and inferno pistol
-2x meltaguns
-Jump packs
Done. Roughly 230-245pts.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thought these might intrest you.
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=891
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=909
Acutally, Scribor has a whole line of roman based conversions and even a whole model. This guy would be a hell of a chapter master
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=933#i/sierpien_2010/big/spartan_sf_1_02.jpg
Really not even that pricy.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I ordered the spartan heads, and the torsos already Sheilds and big guy are next time through!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Great minds think alike!
Also, we had the same idea
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Post by: tony_nids_10
It's true friend! I can NOT wait to get going on these guys! I'm holding off on doing anything else till I get these in!
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Post by: Wyvern
I do really like the colour scheme, but this has to be said:
The New Orleans Saints. 
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Post by: whalemusic360
I already said it, lol
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Post by: tony_nids_10
OK, Listen. Is there a single place on the Saints jersey that is maroon? Just wondering.
I may tweak the colors a bit bit I feel like it will lose a little something if I do...
 OK! COLOR SUGGESTIONS HERE PLEASE! Automatically Appended Next Post: Great! The more I look at the colors the more it makes me angry! Help me people!
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Post by: Sageheart
love the colors!
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Post by: vignor
tony_nids_10 wrote:OK, Listen. Is there a single place on the Saints jersey that is maroon? Just wondering.
I may tweak the colors a bit bit I feel like it will lose a little something if I do...
OK! COLOR SUGGESTIONS HERE PLEASE!
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Great! The more I look at the colors the more it makes me angry! Help me people!
the saints do not have maroon on there jersey and if you want to do a lil reading here you go it talks about the color theory of ancient greece
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/61
knowledge is power Automatically Appended Next Post: id also suggest just making the bronze a bit darker
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Post by: tony_nids_10
As interesting as that article is vignor, you and I are not ancient greeks. Therefore we sadly do not get to enjoy the odd color circumstances they did. Plus an issue like that would be a defect in the geneseed! Such things are just not allowed in the glorius imperium That really was an interesting article though. i may do some more reading into that for my own interest I would not be opposed to changing up the colors up a little but the is not changing.
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Post by: vignor
tony_nids_10 wrote:As interesting as that article is vignor, you and I are not ancient greeks. Therefore we sadly do not get to enjoy the odd color circumstances they did. Plus an issue like that would be a defect in the geneseed! Such things are just not allowed in the glorius imperium That really was an interesting article though. i may do some more reading into that for my own interest I would not be opposed to changing up the colors up a little but the is not changing.
hahaha yeah it does seem like it would be a gene-seed defect  ...and yes it was interesting but very odd i know..So what are you thinking about doing to the colors
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I'm at a complete loss for the colors. I want to stick with the gold but maybe change up everything else... I just don't know where to go
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Post by: vignor
tony_nids_10 wrote:I'm at a complete loss for the colors. I want to stick with the gold but maybe change up everything else... I just don't know where to go
i say keep the red also and replace the black with another hue maybe scorpion green or shadow grey or tinbitz...and i thought your main color was bronze not gold sorry about the misunderstanding in the last post
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Post by: GruntBuster7
If you're looking for a name, try 'Omega Marines'.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
All set on a name Grunt, but thanks for the idea.
@viognor- I dont want to mix metallics too much... I think the grey might look a little off with the gold. Maybe green.
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Post by: vignor
GruntBuster7 wrote:If you're looking for a name, try 'Omega Marines'.
theres already an omegamarines chapter there the bizzaro version of ultramarines 
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Post by: Wyvern
tony_nids_10 wrote:OK, Listen. Is there a single place on the Saints jersey that is maroon? Just wondering.
I may tweak the colors a bit bit I feel like it will lose a little something if I do...
OK! COLOR SUGGESTIONS HERE PLEASE!
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Great! The more I look at the colors the more it makes me angry! Help me people!
I wasnt saying I didnt like it. I actually think its a really good scheme. I just meant it reminds me of the Saints kit.
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Post by: vignor
I cant wait to see the 1st marine to roll off the assembly line.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
@Wyvern- I'm glad you like the scheme! I never said you didnt @vignor- I'll be starting on this project in depth as soon as my stuff from scibor comes in Should I get the stuff to make some molds and casts? Or pick up some plasticard sheets, tubes, and rods?
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Post by: whalemusic360
If you want to make mass amounts of something (like spears) get some molding stuff. If you want every piece to be an individual, go with the plasticard. GF9 makes some good variety packs of stuff with sheet, tube and girter looking things in it.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I saw those at GF9. It's going to be a good buy either way I also need to come up with a fething chapter symbol too...
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Post by: whalemusic360
I like the symbol on the scribor stuff, maybe with something added.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I'm going to carve off the "A"
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Post by: whalemusic360
You should carve of the one side and add another to make a lambda (spelling?) and make them revenge of the nerd marines.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
WM360... damn you.
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Post by: whalemusic360
ROFL, you know you want to now. It'll be the sweetest inside joke ever.
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Post by: AbaddonFidelis
I thought this thread was about *hewbrew* marines for a second.... oy!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
As much as I love a good inside joke WM360... Ok, I'll do it on a vet But just one!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Trilambda Vets FTW!!!!!
Can he be battle brother Booger?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
What about Lamar?
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Post by: whalemusic360
See, you need a whole Vet squad.
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Post by: vignor
tony_nids_10 wrote:What about Lamar?
You've got to give him a javelin I vote Lamar Automatically Appended Next Post: tony_nids_10 wrote:I saw those at GF9. It's going to be a good buy either way I also need to come up with a fething chapter symbol too...
id be more then happy to help with the chapter symbol
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Well Vignor, feel free to toss some ideas my way! I would love the help.
As for Lamar, He will be in my Tri-lambda vet squad with a spear made for his "limp wristed" fighting style
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Sooo...How's the hunt for paint going? I've been cleaning up my paint station for the imminent arrival..
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Post by: tony_nids_10
It is going very well actually! I have 2 of the colors already Though I spent the rest of the extra $$ I had on some primer (for my brothers SMs) and some basing material (for the objective swap) If its ok Samus can I have you paint something for me instead of my bro? He is very excited to get going on his own. I'll have plenty of units in need of some loving!
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Post by: bigmek35
Ehem, any mariens yet?
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Post by: whalemusic360
I doubt the bits are even there yet.
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Post by: arkayne819
May i suggest with the Terminstor Sarge and Termies, have a less distinct look for the Sarge. Maybe have the same look but just change the helm. Might make for better consistency.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
tony_nids_10 wrote:It is going very well actually! I have 2 of the colors already Though I spent the rest of the extra $$ I had on some primer (for my brothers SMs) and some basing material (for the objective swap) If its ok Samus can I have you paint something for me instead of my bro? He is very excited to get going on his own. I'll have plenty of units in need of some loving!
Sure, that's fine. Send me a PM tomorrow, We can work something out 
Anything except tyranids is fine....Unless it's a monstrous creature, which is fun as long as it's arms aren't attached
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Post by: tony_nids_10
bigmek35 wrote:Ehem, any mariens yet?
Not yet... but believe me they will be kicked into high gear ASAP! I'm really excited about this project!
whalemusic360 wrote:I doubt the bits are even there yet.
No sadly they are not :( Soon I hope!
arkayne819 wrote:May i suggest with the Terminstor Sarge and Termies, have a less distinct look for the Sarge. Maybe have the same look but just change the helm. Might make for better consistency.
I was thinking the same thing What color do you think for the heads? Or maybe some other type of variation?
Samus_aran115 wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:It is going very well actually! I have 2 of the colors already Though I spent the rest of the extra $$ I had on some primer (for my brothers SMs) and some basing material (for the objective swap) If its ok Samus can I have you paint something for me instead of my bro? He is very excited to get going on his own. I'll have plenty of units in need of some loving!
Sure, that's fine. Send me a PM tomorrow, We can work something out
Anything except tyranids is fine....Unless it's a monstrous creature, which is fun as long as it's arms aren't attached
Oddly I was going to send you a Catachan Devil to paint Just kidding, but a cookie for anyone that actually knows what that is!
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Post by: arkayne819
tony_nids_10 wrote:
arkayne819 wrote:May i suggest with the Terminstor Sarge and Termies, have a less distinct look for the Sarge. Maybe have the same look but just change the helm. Might make for better consistency.
I was thinking the same thing What color do you think for the heads? Or maybe some other type of variation?
How about you leave the heads of the sarge and termies as you have it. But just change the shoulder pouldrons to keep Consistency within the squad.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
arkayne819 wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:
arkayne819 wrote:May i suggest with the Terminstor Sarge and Termies, have a less distinct look for the Sarge. Maybe have the same look but just change the helm. Might make for better consistency.
I was thinking the same thing What color do you think for the heads? Or maybe some other type of variation?
How about you leave the heads of the sarge and termies as you have it. But just change the shoulder pouldrons to keep Consistency within the squad.
I may have to do that. I just want to make sure that there is enough distinction. Know what I mean?
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Post by: arkayne819
tony_nids_10 wrote:arkayne819 wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote: arkayne819 wrote:May i suggest with the Terminstor Sarge and Termies, have a less distinct look for the Sarge. Maybe have the same look but just change the helm. Might make for better consistency.
I was thinking the same thing What color do you think for the heads? Or maybe some other type of variation?
How about you leave the heads of the sarge and termies as you have it. But just change the shoulder pouldrons to keep Consistency within the squad.
I may have to do that. I just want to make sure that there is enough distinction. Know what I mean?
Yeah fair enough! If in doubt though read the SM codex. Your army doesnt have to be codex but they have a really Awesome Force Organization setup in there (pages 17-21). Colors and Helms for Company, Squad and Status.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Ok no more quoting We were getting a bit crazy there.
I don't have a codex yet...
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Post by: arkayne819
OUCH yeah get the codex asap. Oh and Dont underestimate scouts with a techmarine in the mix. 2+ Cover saves very possible! Just lock and load a Missile Laucher or Heavy bolter with sniper rifles and camo cloaks!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I am going to use scouts! If for no other reason, I love them. Thats right, I think they are great. I love the sniper models!
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Post by: arkayne819
Sniper Kits look Great right? I want to get one for my Angels if only just to have. Im not fussed on the Vanilla kit though.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I'm planning on using the BA codex for these guys! I think their rulses and such fit pretty well.
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Post by: arkayne819
Yeah BA's for the win. I cant wait to get mine cracking. Put an end to my brothers Space Wolves.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
That is a fight I would love to see!
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Post by: arkayne819
Me too. He Squashed my Grey Knights due to my silly Deep Striking attempts. But he wont get my angels
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I really REALLY want the deamonhunters to get a new codex!
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Post by: arkayne819
Your telling me. I cant wait! new models would be awesome too
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Lets not get too greedy
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Post by: arkayne819
GW owe us!!!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Don't say that too loud! If GW hears it they will hike the prices.... again!
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Post by: arkayne819
OH gak!!!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I wont tell if you don't!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Lol, I really hope GK do get a dex and models, I'll be starting a 3rd army instantly. But I more hope that DE get one so my brother shuts up about it.
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Post by: arkayne819
whalemusic360 wrote:Lol, I really hope GK do get a dex and models, I'll be starting a 3rd army instantly. But I more hope that DE get one so my brother shuts up about it.
Hahaha i know how you feel! but it gets worse. My brother wouldnt shut up about the old SW dex and then he got the new one when it came out. Now its one big EGO trip. jeez....
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
*jumps in*
I know what a Catachan Devil is. Cookie please.
And FYI, Codex: Grey Knights is coming out october or november, with DE following them, perhaps with a January release.
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Post by: arkayne819
Darkvoidof40k wrote:
And FYI, Codex: Grey Knights is coming out october or november, with DE following them, perhaps with a January release.
Can you Prove that please? Substantial Evidence would be greatly Appreciated. Dont blame me for being Skeptical as i would really love to believe you.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
How about you go and search around on the internet and Dakka? Not sure how ANYBODY who's in to 40k and on Dakka can have missed all of the rumor threads..
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Post by: whalemusic360
The same rumor threads that say necrons and DE are next? Rumors are just that. Untill a "incoming" email shows up from GW, its all BS.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
whalemusic360 wrote:The same rumor threads that say necrons and DE are next? Rumors are just that. Untill a "incoming" email shows up from GW, its all BS.
No, it isn't BS. Because there is evidence out there - don't ask me for it though, cause this isn't the thread for it. Anyway, what it is is unofficial news and speculation. That does not make it BS, especially if it turns out to be right (which it probably will).
Back on topic now?
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yes back on topic now lol
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Post by: Captain Solon
AbaddonFidelis wrote:I thought this thread was about *hewbrew* marines for a second.... oy!
Win As for models, the only model I don't like is the captain. he's so.... average mariney.
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Darkvoidof40k wrote:*jumps in*
I know what a Catachan Devil is. Cookie please.
And FYI, Codex: Grey Knights is coming out october or november, with DE following them, perhaps with a January release.
Other way around mate, afaik.
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Post by: arkayne819
Ok so we seem to have mixed opinions about the Codex coming next.
Well here's my opinion. I don't see anything Directly from GW so therefore? I don't believe. Rumours are just that, Rumours. Someone says your mum takes it backwards? That's a rumour. Doesn't mean its true.
And Besides! I've read the rumours. (For instance, The only reason people think Stormravens will be in the GK's dex is because they're referenced in the BA codex) Sure it seems likely, but on that off chance? Maybe it wont happen
Like I said earlier I'd love to believe in the GK's getting another Codex. But I'll just wait and see. And its to save disappointment Because they were my 'First' army (love the GKs).
Sorry for going Off Topic, Sorry for a rant hahaha.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
Off-topic keeps un-updated thread alive.
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Post by: vignor
IF one day i have the funds id like to start a Persian themed WAAGGH!!! to battle Da Shields....
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Post by: bigmek35
ONTOPIC GWAR LAR BAR GUYS
lawl but to be true lets not have a "GERY KNIGHTS OR DE CODEX UPDATE FIGHT!!!" i like tony nids idea of hoplite wariors in the 41st melinea and i am supriesd none have done it befor!
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Darkvoidof40k wrote:*jumps in*
I know what a Catachan Devil is. Cookie please.
You do indeed get a cookie! Just not right now...
Captain Solon wrote:AbaddonFidelis wrote:I thought this thread was about *hewbrew* marines for a second.... oy!
Win
As for models, the only model I don't like is the captain.
he's so.... average mariney.
No worries about him being too average mariney. I have plans for all of them to stand out in their own special ways but sadly the army painter doesn't let you do all the fun things you want.
Darkvoidof40k wrote:Off-topic keeps un-updated thread alive.
Agreed, only my random babbleing will keep it alive! The only reason for the lack of updates on my part is my new job has me working from 5pm to 5 am... needless to say I am a bit tired. As for all the info on the new codex, I don't give a  until it is sitting in my grubby little mits! So until then what timeframe it comes out is irrelevant.
Allow me to step down for a moment.
I went to my FLGS and picked up some much needed supplies today! I picked up a citadel hobby saw aka the item voted most likely to remove a finger, a can of white primer from Army Painter, and an Army Painter containing a pair of snips, tiny drill, file, tweezers, xacto knife, and some glue. I figured its about time I got some proper tools to work with! More updates soon! Automatically Appended Next Post: vignor wrote:IF one day i have the funds id like to start a Persian themed WAAGGH!!! to battle Da Shields....
BRING IT ON!!!
bigmek35 wrote:ONTOPIC GWAR LAR BAR GUYS
lawl but to be true lets not have a "GERY KNIGHTS OR DE CODEX UPDATE FIGHT!!!" i like tony nids idea of hoplite wariors in the 41st melinea and i am supriesd none have done it befor!
Thanks for the backup! I've seen alot of the horse hair style helms before I just want to take it a little further.
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let see some models!
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Post by: vignor
''5pm to 5 am.''
Sounds like the worst hours...i used to be a security guard
7am-7pm it hard to do anything when half your day is watching crap in the middle of nowhere bfe off topic i know sorry...ill have you a possible chapter emblem latter today if you wanna take a look....
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i just found the reminded me of your project
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Jesse7786/Spartan.jpg
and another thing this is going to seem a bit stupid on my part..are you looking to make the shields grim and dark like real Spartans
or more pure and hopeful like the roman based ultramarines...Dumb i know but just curious
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Sageheart wrote:let see some models!
I cant! I'm waiting for the bits I ordered to come in. Then I am going to start a P&M thread. I'll keep you posted.
vignor wrote:''5pm to 5 am.''
Sounds like the worst hours...i used to be a security guard
7am-7pm it hard to do anything when half your day is watching crap in the middle of nowhere bfe off topic i know sorry...ill have you a possible chapter emblem latter today if you wanna take a look....
I would love to take a look!
vignor wrote:
i just found the reminded me of your project
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Jesse7786/Spartan.jpg
and another thing this is going to seem a bit stupid on my part..are you looking to make the shields grim and dark like real Spartans
or more pure and hopeful like the roman based ultramarines...Dumb i know but just curious
I'm shooting for a little darker look. Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm not a big fan of the hopeful pure look...
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Post by: Samus_aran115
The citadel hobby saw...Yeesh, that thing even looks gruesome. I swear I've had a couple nightmares of that thing..
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I had something to though in but i forgot just now LAWL
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Samus_aran115 wrote:The citadel hobby saw...Yeesh, that thing even looks gruesome. I swear I've had a couple nightmares of that thing..
I'm sure at some point I'll be bleeding because of it...
bigmek35 wrote:I had something to though in but i forgot just now LAWL
I do that ALL the time.
I'm going to go ahead and start getting some bits I have around the house prepped and ready for the arrival of the ones I ordered. That way I will be a little closer to ready once the torsos and heads show up. I still need to run to the store and grab a tac squad at some point.
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Post by: whalemusic360
tony_nids_10 wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and start getting some bits I have around the house prepped and ready for the arrival of the ones I ordered. That way I will be a little closer to ready once the torsos and heads show up. I still need to run to the store and grab a Battleforce at some point.
Fixed that for ya.
Do you have anything in mind for the GW marine torsos and heads? Ive tossed around the idea of iveserating some AoBR rines for legs and making multiparts out of em, but figured id come up short of torsos at that point.
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It would seem that I would have some extra torsos and heads. Esp if somehome I managed to buy a battleforce! Realisticly I'm not going to buy that Not now atleast. Maybe once I get a squad to gether and painted to make sure I like them. If you want the extras from the tac squad I'm picking up on my way to work I'll send em your way! Just pm me with the info I need and I'll get rolling.
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yea like WM said get a battle force those things are great now for what you want to do
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http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/acy/acy1401.htm
if you get hardcore into your marines and want to give them a
unique rare piece of equipment ....remember the flying trireme in the bit i first wrote well ive been looking at one of these for a month or two and thought that could be a Thunderhawk .... wysiwyg http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/acy/acy1401.htm
and with a little converting it could be awesome
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@bigmek35- I would LOVE a battleforce but I just dont have the $$ right now. I dont feel that bad about settling on a tac squad for now... but once I REALLY get going on this army the battleforce might find it's way into my arms at my FLGS.
@Vignor- That is an incredibly interesting idea! A ton of converting but it would be totally worth it! I'll have to keep that in mind Any luck on that chapter symbol yet?
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tony_nids_10 wrote:@bigmek35- I would LOVE a battleforce but I just dont have the $$ right now. I dont feel that bad about settling on a tac squad for now... but once I REALLY get going on this army the battleforce might find it's way into my arms at my FLGS.
@Vignor- That is an incredibly interesting idea! A ton of converting but it would be totally worth it! I'll have to keep that in mind Any luck on that chapter symbol yet?
infernally hard to come up with an idea for a symbol but im still trucking on it the only idea ive had is to use a Achilles shield with
wings like how the scibor shoulder pads have the shield and wings on them and placing a Aquila on the shield
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Wheres the picture
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tony_nids_10 wrote:Wheres the picture
hahaha hold on ive got to upload it then.. not the greatest but you'll get an idea Automatically Appended Next Post:
its not the greatest but i hope you get the geest as what im trying todo..
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I can def see what you are trying to do vignor! What about this for an idea... Use the shield but take the wings off and the tweety bird out of the middle and put a downward facing gladius? It'll tighten it up a bit and make it so I could put it on a shoulderpad. I'm still very open for ideas!
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alright number two on the way old on for upload
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I like the bottom one myself and the 8 rivet things the shield
and the sword could work a bit of fluff the shield is first company the the sword is second company and the eight rivets represent the other company's..And to represent which
company a marine comes from you can paint one of the 10 parts to the company's color that represents his company...man i dont know hahaha...ive been on a brain drain from these past few days i need inspiration or intoxication...
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The bottom one might just be the winner!
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tony_nids_10 wrote:The bottom one might just be the winner!
hahaha
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Don't quote me on this but, I might try to sculpt it out of GS on a shoulderpad to cast.
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That would be cool ive seen your GS skills on your tyranids thread and i think you can do it .... see i didn't quote you hahaha
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Have you chosen what codex your going to use...
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Not too sure yet. Why?
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Just curious...i think the Black Templars Chaplain Grimaldus has the perfect rules for one of the HQ slots of the shields very indomitable spartan resolve like
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I saw that too but I think I might need to use the BA codex for some extra breaking power.
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Death company a must then
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Absolutely!
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ive noticed one thing from your OP thats been neglected .....THE GUARD ATTACHMENT have you had any thoughts on what todo with them....
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For your guard attachment with the shields i think you could get big points with a little converting..
ogres for ogryn and storm troopers outta men at arms and catachans or cadians with a little Green stuff you could produes a hard core elite army... you could convert maruader horse men into rough riders just scrape or green stuff over the chaos iconography and while staying on the topic marauders of chaos could be used as basic infentry men
with catachan arms and deco bitz and saw the horns off the helms and bam!!! you could make a totally unique army..i'll send you some more info after i do some scratching...
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5PM to 5AM? You sure you don't mean 5AM to 5PM? Cause otherwise.. my god.. I would never do those hours (not that I've ever done any.. ).
Still watching this thread with interest. So my idea of everything being a true-scale-mcbatnipple armour model is outta the window? Meh.. would've loved to have seen that..
Still.. Tzeentch owes me a few favors.. might get him to manipulate your mind.. and that of whoever decides your hours and pay..
I'm thinking "hours: all day" and pay "$500 a minute" with the job description of "go home and make those true-scale mcbatnipple armour marines!!" so that Dark can say "I told you so; I told you they'd be awesome."
Then I'll get tzeentch to make everyone believe the army (and job) is mine, thus perfecting my life.
Oh damn, I've told you my plan. I'll just go live on the moon and bomb everyone else instead then.
@mods who read this - I'm not being off-topic and annoying, I'm keeping the thread alive.. /buggers off
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...And other converting thing to do is take chaos knight horses and convert them into "cavalry" aka attack bike WYSIWYG proxy....ill draw up concepts and find info if you'd like to see my madness...
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...And other converting thing to do is take chaos knight horses and convert them into "cavalry" aka attack bike WYSIWYG proxy....ill draw up concepts and find info if you'd like to see my madness...
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vignor wrote:ive noticed one thing from your OP thats been neglected .....THE GUARD ATTACHMENT have you had any thoughts on what todo with them....
I have neglected that item! That was one of my fav parts of this army idea to begin with
vignor wrote:
For your guard attachment with the shields i think you could get big points with a little converting..
ogres for ogryn and storm troopers outta men at arms and catachans or cadians with a little Green stuff you could produes a hard core elite army... you could convert maruader horse men into rough riders just scrape or green stuff over the chaos iconography and while staying on the topic marauders of chaos could be used as basic infentry men
with catachan arms and deco bitz and saw the horns off the helms and bam!!! you could make a totally unique army..i'll send you some more info after i do some scratching...
I think the guard unit is going to be the hardest and possibly most rewarding part of this army build. Talk about pushing my skills to the limits...
Darkvoidof40k wrote:5PM to 5AM? You sure you don't mean 5AM to 5PM? Cause otherwise.. my god.. I would never do those hours (not that I've ever done any.. ).
No... I meant 5pm to 5 am. It sucks alot and I don't sleep for the most part.
Darkvoidof40k wrote:Still watching this thread with interest. So my idea of everything being a true-scale-mcbatnipple armour model is outta the window? Meh.. would've loved to have seen that..
Still.. Tzeentch owes me a few favors.. might get him to manipulate your mind.. and that of whoever decides your hours and pay..
I'm thinking "hours: all day" and pay "$500 a minute" with the job description of "go home and make those true-scale mcbatnipple armour marines!!" so that Dark can say "I told you so; I told you they'd be awesome."
Then I'll get tzeentch to make everyone believe the army (and job) is mine, thus perfecting my life.
Oh damn, I've told you my plan. I'll just go live on the moon and bomb everyone else instead then.
As great as all of that sounds, I think the true-scale mcbatnipple armour is going to have to wait till I am much better at my craft!
Darkvoidof40k wrote:@mods who read this - I'm not being off-topic and annoying, I'm keeping the thread alive.. /buggers off
You sir are never off topic or annoying! If anyone is off topic and maybe even slightly annoying it is me! I go off topic more than anyone and I'm the OP!
vignor wrote:...And other converting thing to do is take chaos knight horses and convert them into "cavalry" aka attack bike WYSIWYG proxy....ill draw up concepts and find info if you'd like to see my madness...
FEED ME YOUR IDEAS!! No really I love the support in this army build from everyone that posts! Automatically Appended Next Post: On a side note, I was reading the fluff for the BA's and fell in love with the info about the tribes that inhabited the 2 moons of Baal after they were turned into a radioactive wasteland! I was planning to make an army of mutant scavengers wirh very minor mutations and the fluff works perfectly for my idea!! Yet another thread will be started at some point...but not today, I'm tired.
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possible PDF/Guard Automatically Appended Next Post: Aye my computer wouldn't scan last not..so i resorted to editing and copying bitz pictures...ive got plethora of Concept sketches i worked on will upload as sooon as i switch computers Automatically Appended Next Post: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440109a&prodId=prod1040523
+this
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440249a&prodId=prod2080005
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@vignor- You sir are truly a major asset on this project!
Itty bitty update- I picked up the tac squad yesterday before going to job 2!! This means all I am waiting for is the bits from scibor to come in and the project will get rolling! There is a packeage at the post office waiting for me and I really hope thats it. I am working 5pm to 5am again tonight and I will update this as soon as I know if the bits are in!
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I really hope you guys follow the progress over to the P&M section once I get going!
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Get on it and we might.
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Hey tony... just found your blog... SUBSCRIBED...
*waits to be entertained*
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i shall be finishing up a a new dreadnought sketch For the shields and a chimera idea after i do some house purging this evening...and i hope your bits did arrive im about to go into a fever waiting
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It wasn't the bits!! There wasn't even a package... just an oversized envelope. I guess getting benefits at the new job are a good thing I am eagerly waiting on the bits.
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Woulda been better if the benifits were unlimited 40k for life for everyone you know......just sayin.
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HAHAHA! I'm sending you torsos isn't that something?!?
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http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space-Marine-Dreadnoughts/BLACK-TEMPLARS-VENERABLE-DREADNOUGHT.html
this above link inspired me to do this below sketch
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That is a good benifit, lol.
Nice scetch vignor!
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whalemusic360 wrote:That is a good benifit, lol.
Nice scetch vignor!
HAHAHA thanks
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hey tony! I like the things you do! Hey tony! If I could, I'd paint for you!
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@vignor- I really love the sketch! Definitely something to ponder while I STILL wait for the bits to come in...
@samus_aran115-Soon friend, soon.
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and now to the Guard Sketch to give you something to ponder on lol Automatically Appended Next Post: In the back ground very crudely sketched would be the rough riders in the fore ground left a Sargent and to the right a ogre /ogryn..... Automatically Appended Next Post: ive worked out some blue prints for converting the previous post mentioned units now i just need to translate to paper...and thanks tony...im still working fluff in my head for you Automatically Appended Next Post: Samus_aran115 wrote:hey tony! I like the things you do! Hey tony! If I could, I'd paint for you!
LMAO
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Those are very cool vignor.... nice!
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@vignor- I don't even know what to say at this point. Thanks just seems like too little! I couldn't put a price on all of your help.
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Another update. This is a list of things I am getting shipped to me in the next month/6 weeks... Big Ol' Pile of fun!!!
1 leman russ
1 tank hunter
1 medusa basilisk
1 chimera
2 squads of DKOK
1 DKOK command squad
1 Stormlord
1 baneblade standard
1 baneblade hellhound.
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tony_nids_10 wrote:@vignor- I don't even know what to say at this point. Thanks just seems like too little! I couldn't put a price on all of your help.
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Another update. This is a list of things I am getting shipped to me in the next month/6 weeks... Big Ol' Pile of fun!!!
1 leman russ
1 tank hunter
1 medusa basilisk
1 chimera
2 squads of DKOK
1 DKOK command squad
1 Stormlord
1 baneblade standard
1 baneblade hellhound.
Omg. Let me paint a superheavy
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Make sure to get the forge world DKOK - had a look at their models today and THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY SON OF A CREED SEXY!?!?!?three!!!!!!";11'~!!!!!
Tasters:
Grenadiers -
CCS -
Autocannon HWS -
Expensive little buggers, though. Damned worth it (unless you intend to actually play with them.. T3 failzz!).
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@void- That is the beauty of a "counts as" crew
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tony_nids_10 wrote:@void- That is the beauty of a "counts as" crew
You know it. Unfortunately I'd have to drop /guesses/ ~£85 for just the above! I dread to think the kinda money you'd be paying in $$$ over the pond.. even though it's the same amount of money in equivelance terms.. I'm guessing /guesses/ in the $200 price range.. O.O 
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tony_nids_10 wrote:@vignor- I don't even know what to say at this point. Thanks just seems like too little! I couldn't put a price on all of your help.
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Another update. This is a list of things I am getting shipped to me in the next month/6 weeks... Big Ol' Pile of fun!!!
1 leman russ
1 tank hunter
1 medusa basilisk
1 chimera
2 squads of DKOK
1 DKOK command squad
1 Stormlord
1 baneblade standard
1 baneblade hellhound.
It sounds beautiful!!!!! but on the last baneblade i never heard of a baneblade hellhound unless your talking about bout a hellhammer  ...The stormlord is my favorite variant i like mega bolters...and thanks Mr.Nids and gitsplitta...you dont have to put a price on nothing it gives me something todo i should be thanking you for giving me something to think aboutLOL and is the above mmentioned group above going to be your Guard attachment? if so i will not be displeased at all i love DKOK ive read all the siege books
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vignor wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:@vignor- I don't even know what to say at this point. Thanks just seems like too little! I couldn't put a price on all of your help.
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Another update. This is a list of things I am getting shipped to me in the next month/6 weeks... Big Ol' Pile of fun!!!
1 leman russ
1 tank hunter
1 medusa basilisk
1 chimera
2 squads of DKOK
1 DKOK command squad
1 Stormlord
1 baneblade standard
1 baneblade hellhound.
It sounds beautiful!!!!! but on the last baneblade i never heard of a baneblade hellhound unless your talking about bout a hellhammer
Huh.. never thought of Typo's. I just envisioned a Shadowsword chassis with a massive flamer on it (i.e. warhound flamer thing).
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Wait, so did you get 3 $100 tanks and FW stuff after you said you couldnt get a Bforce? Silly Tony.
Void - Actually with the pound:dollar ratio at about 1.3=1.4:1, FW stuff isn't bad right now. Shipping is the biggest problem really. 80 pounds would be about 110ish bucks.
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So...Can I paint a super heavy or what? I would freak out
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vignor wrote:It sounds beautiful!!!!! but on the last baneblade i never heard of a baneblade hellhound unless your talking about bout a hellhammer ...The stormlord is my favorite variant i like mega bolters...and thanks Mr.Nids and gitsplitta...you dont have to put a price on nothing it gives me something todo i should be thanking you for giving me something to think aboutLOL and is the above mmentioned group above going to be your Guard attachment? if so i will not be displeased at all i love DKOK ive read all the siege books
Actually they are NOT going to be my guard attachment. When I get my grubby little paws on these items, they will be their own army. They dont really fit the theme I have going and to sully these lovely little men would be nearly as bad as the heresey! (spelling)
whalemusic360 wrote:Wait, so did you get 3 $100 tanks and FW stuff after you said you couldnt get a Bforce? Silly Tony.
Would you pass up on the chance of owning that list???? I think not
Samus_aran115 wrote:So...Can I paint a super heavy or what? I would freak out
We shall see my friend!
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Guess it would depend on how much, what condition, and from whom. But I probally would jumped on it as well for a stupid good price.
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Oh yeah, I see a Stormlord on that list. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY. 15 S6 AP3 may be nice, but at BS3 you're gonna get hardly any hits. Even if you don't fire the other weapons and get out 30 S6 AP3, averages say only 15'll hit anyway. Sure, transport capacity of 40 is nice.. but you're paying ~500pts for it!
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so you told me you dont have them $$ for a batle force yet you go wild on FW?
I
Am
Confused.
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Darkvoidof40k wrote:Oh yeah, I see a Stormlord on that list. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY. 15 S6 AP3 may be nice, but at BS3 you're gonna get hardly any hits. Even if you don't fire the other weapons and get out 30 S6 AP3, averages say only 15'll hit anyway. Sure, transport capacity of 40 is nice.. but you're paying ~500pts for it!
But you get to put out a whole lotta lead and light with these behemoths and unleash a torrent of ants from its behind lol its awesome at facing swarms of infantry like ork boyz or nids and plus i just like the model
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AND NOW LADIES AND NIDS I PRESENT TO YOU
I dont know why i post my sketchs on your tread im working on a temi next but the above marine I Call him battle brother VIGNORIS hahaha of the EMPERORS SHIELDS Stern Guard...i think its one of my best sketches ive put up on dakka besides my sister of battle
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Ill Send you the siege of Vraks books if you want them MR.nids...and your DKOK i cant wait to see your work on that force either and if i had the money id defiantly take that list over a battle force any day
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Darkvoidof40k wrote:vignor wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:@vignor- I don't even know what to say at this point. Thanks just seems like too little! I couldn't put a price on all of your help.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Another update. This is a list of things I am getting shipped to me in the next month/6 weeks... Big Ol' Pile of fun!!!
1 leman russ
1 tank hunter
1 medusa basilisk
1 chimera
2 squads of DKOK
1 DKOK command squad
1 Stormlord
1 baneblade standard
1 baneblade hellhound.
It sounds beautiful!!!!! but on the last baneblade i never heard of a baneblade hellhound unless your talking about bout a hellhammer
Huh.. never thought of Typo's. I just envisioned a Shadowsword chassis with a massive flamer on it (i.e. warhound flamer thing).
Soo like this?:
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i like it
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YES
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Really nice sketch vignor.
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bigmek35 wrote:so you told me you dont have them $$ for a batle force yet you go wild on FW?
I
Am
Confused.
Thats the nice thing about dealing with a person rather than a company. A person will work out a deal with you so that its not all the money at once. No worries about the battle force will happen eventually.
vignor wrote:AND NOW LADIES AND NIDS I PRESENT TO YOU
I dont know why i post my sketchs on your tread im working on a temi next but the above marine I Call him battle brother VIGNORIS hahaha of the EMPERORS SHIELDS Stern Guard...i think its one of my best sketches ive put up on dakka besides my sister of battle
You post them because they are amazing and incredibly helpful! Not to mention appreciated I would love to get some of those helmets!
vignor wrote:Ill Send you the siege of Vraks books if you want them MR.nids...and your DKOK i cant wait to see your work on that force either and if i had the money id defiantly take that list over a battle force any day
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way! DKoK are the type of models that just jump at you when you see them! I will absolutely keep you (and most likely everyone else) updated with that project too. Those books would be great!
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If you ever need to get a lot of DkOK on the field, steel legion guardsmen make nice proxies.
I've got a friend who's got 1/3 DkoK and 2/3 steel legion. It looks pretty good. You can paint on certain details.
Good luck with that, I'm sure it'll look great
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I'm excited about it but priority number one are the Emperor's Shields! EVERYTHING is on hold for those to get started.
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Ah. I see. So the color scheme is permanent? I like it
I think you should get a couple things to try out all the color schemes:
Battleforce
Assault Terminators
Commander
Although that IS a lot of money......
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Yeah... I have some spare marines lying about that I might use for some test pcs. I suppose I could work on those for now
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Wow that is quite purdy vig! Cant wait to see if tony can pull it off in plastic. I just got IA2, are the newer ones any good? Im looking forward to 9/10
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well thats ok tony i understand now
ONTOPIC vingor do you have deveint art or some where so some of youre awsome drawing skills shed on to my not so awsome?
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whalemusic360 wrote:Wow that is quite purdy vig! Cant wait to see if tony can pull it off in plastic. I just got IA2, are the newer ones any good? Im looking forward to 9/10
Gee no pressure there.
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whalemusic360 wrote:Wow that is quite purdy vig! Cant wait to see if tony can pull it off in plastic. I just got IA2, are the newer ones any good? Im looking forward to 9/10
Well IMO All Imperial Armour Books are great...And he Could pull it off in plastic And at tony you can get those helmets with a lil bit of work ill show you when i gather the link and blue print Automatically Appended Next Post: bigmek35 wrote:well thats ok tony i understand now
ONTOPIC vingor do you have deveint art or some where so some of youre awsome drawing skills shed on to my not so awsome?
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here is how you can make the helmet use the red scorpions stern guard helmets and get a exact o knife and carve a channel down the middle of the mouth guard connecting it to the eyes and there you go i cannot find a single bitz site that has forge world bitz and on the top of
the helmet just GS a short plume
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http://magenguy.deviantart.com/ well vingor you asked for it heres mah devient art!
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Good stuff mek! I also found a GW figure that I am going to use as a counts as special character
With some very minor cosmetic work and a new shield I think he will fit nicely into the ranks of the Shield's!! Thoughts
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Pretty cool my only suggestion would be to paint him some pants...and im going to do a tutorial soon that i think might help with painting symbols and designs thats totally been over looked by everyone...and i think it would help you make the shields equipment have a high level of uniqueness....still no word about the bitz yet
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The bitz were delivered! Just not to me... They are at my parents house and will continue to be there for a little longer since they live a ways away. CRAP!
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tony_nids_10 wrote:The bitz were delivered! Just not to me... They are at my parents house and will continue to be there for a little longer since they live a ways away. CRAP!
Hey just think there not lost or sent to a Alabama shrimpin boat captain alabama bamaramma...What is a scribdor lieutenant and i dont know who this Tony nids feller is or why he is a 10 but i tell you what i opened that lil box and out fell all these plastek things and i ate one!!!!
May I Present Tonynidious Automatically Appended Next Post: I Guess ill do Samus as a stander bearer next lol Automatically Appended Next Post: 404.7M41 The Emperor Shields Deploy 3 companys to aid in the defence of Heraplhough a large agri-world that rests on the border of there system has come under assult From tyranids of Hive Fleet Nereus ......sound interesting yet
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vignor wrote:
Hey just think there not lost or sent to a Alabama shrimpin boat captain alabama bamaramma...What is a scribdor lieutenant and i dont know who this Tony nids feller is or why he is a 10 but i tell you what i opened that lil box and out fell all these plastek things and i ate one!!!!
Damn Forest Gump eating bitz that don't belong to him!
vignor wrote:
May I Present Tonynidious
Great art as usual!
vignor wrote:
I Guess ill do Samus as a stander bearer next lol
You do realize that all of these will make it into the army at some point right? All I ask is that Samus the standard bearer DOES NOT look like Kristen Stewart...
vignor wrote:
404.7M41 The Emperor Shields Deploy 3 companys to aid in the defence of Heraplhough a large agri-world that rests on the border of there system has come under assult From tyranids of Hive Fleet Nereus ......sound interesting yet
Hahaha! Now you are just playing up to my ego. Get to writing that story, then we can submit it to the black library! Well that and I want to read it.
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You know, there's a company out there that makes some really neat greek helmets... they're not space greeks... just greeks... but a set of them might give you something in the correct size to play with and experiment on. (Scribor miniatures)
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Gitsplitta wrote:You know, there's a company out there that makes some really neat greek helmets... they're not space greeks... just greeks... but a set of them might give you something in the correct size to play with and experiment on. (Scribor miniatures)
Thanks Git, I love that site. Those exact heads along with some torsos are the bits waiuting for me at the old house I cant wait to grab those and get going!! I'm always looking for more bits though
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CAN I BE A MARINE OH CAN I CAN I! i could be a scout lol
in all do seriousness i want to help with the story though you know me
IM HOOKED ON THIS THREAD
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Post by: vignor
Before i can continue we need to Think tank some names,places And ideas...
I suggest in the story we incorporate the combined forces operation with The shields And there Guard attachment
but i dont know where to start
1.We need a name for the home planet of the chapter
2.we need a name for the guard adjunct
3.Names of Marines and certain guardsmen
4.do we want to sacrifice 300 hundred marines to the horde
Automatically Appended Next Post: bigmek35 wrote:CAN I BE A MARINE OH CAN I CAN I! i could be a scout lol
in all do seriousness i want to help with the story though you know me
IM HOOKED ON THIS THREAD
I was thinking of making you into a Tech marine But a scout marine is needed
and i need help writing Automatically Appended Next Post: vignor wrote:
I Guess ill do Samus as a stander bearer next lol
You do realize that all of these will make it into the army at some point right? All I ask is that Samus the standard bearer DOES NOT look like Kristen Stewart...
Haha i was just going to give him some long hair and poutty lips and make Him sparkle a lil bit
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Maybe they could be a fleet based chapter? Y'know, cause fleet based chapters always win and never have their planet blow'd up by Orks or Necrons or Chaos or whatever it is this time.
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ill try to draw my scout guy just all summer i havent had acexes to my school scanner but heres some ideas   combine the two and see what you get oh and he has a bolter Oh and make his name Octavius thanks!
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vignor wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:The bitz were delivered! Just not to me... They are at my parents house and will continue to be there for a little longer since they live a ways away. CRAP!
Hey just think there not lost or sent to a Alabama shrimpin boat captain alabama bamaramma...What is a scribdor lieutenant and i dont know who this Tony nids feller is or why he is a 10 but i tell you what i opened that lil box and out fell all these plastek things and i ate one!!!!
May I Present Tonynidious
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I Guess ill do Samus as a stander bearer next lol
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404.7M41 The Emperor Shields Deploy 3 companys to aid in the defence of Heraplhough a large agri-world that rests on the border of there system has come under assult From tyranids of Hive Fleet Nereus ......sound interesting yet
Excellent...Just excellent. Samus would be more than welcome in a space marine regiment. Metroids > Hive tyrants
Thanks for including me It's nice to be part of a plog Automatically Appended Next Post: OH! You already did it! That looks great, thanks! I'll treasure it forever!
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Post by: whalemusic360
That's cool to have lots of guys named for people on dakka. Especially with the sketches.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
bigmek35 wrote:CAN I BE A MARINE OH CAN I CAN I! i could be a scout lol
in all do seriousness i want to help with the story though you know me
IM HOOKED ON THIS THREAD
I would be more than happy to swap out the guard regiment for some scout squads.. maybe. We shall see. Either way BM you will be in it as well. I am so glad you are hooked! Be sure to follow on over to the new P&M thread to be made later tonight!
vignor wrote:Before i can continue we need to Think tank some names,places And ideas...
I suggest in the story we incorporate the combined forces operation with The shields And there Guard attachment
but i dont know where to start
1.We need a name for the home planet of the chapter
2.we need a name for the guard adjunct
3.Names of Marines and certain guardsmen
4.do we want to sacrifice 300 hundred marines to the horde
1- I really like the idea of a fleet based chapter! I do have a bit of a soft spot for the Black templar ways
2- Guard or Scouts? If guard what about "The Legionarres" I realize I spelled that terribly but I have been awake for close to 48 hours straight
3- I like what we have going with the Dakka peeps (yeah I said peeps ) Maybe a slight twist like you did for "my" unit?
4- I don't even know what that means
vignor wrote:
I Guess ill do Samus as a stander bearer next lol
tony_nids_10 wrote:
You do realize that all of these will make it into the army at some point right? All I ask is that Samus the standard bearer DOES NOT look like Kristen Stewart...
vignor wrote:
Haha i was just going to give him some long hair and poutty lips and make Him sparkle a lil bit
Funny but no... There will be no pouty lips or sparkles in this army!
vignor wrote:
And another things is im still reading the tyranids codex to better understand them very confussing the only thing ive figured out so far is they like to eat and there equipment is mind blowing bio weapons
If you need some help with the nids ideas hit me up, I have the codex and a great love for the little buggies!
vignor wrote:
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samus
I love to look of these guys!
Darkvoidof40k wrote:Maybe they could be a fleet based chapter? Y'know, cause fleet based chapters always win and never have their planet blow'd up by Orks or Necrons or Chaos or whatever it is this time.
Agreed! I REALLY like this idea
bigmek35 wrote:ill try to draw my scout guy just all summer i havent had acexes to my school scanner but heres some ideas
oh and he has a bolter
Oh and make his name Octavius thanks!
Octavius? Why Octavius?
Samus_aran115 wrote: Thanks for including me It's nice to be part of a plog
Samus my friend I wouldn't dream of not having you as a part of my plog or my army. I would love to have everyone that is actively on this thread and wants to, as a part of the army!
whalemusic360 wrote:That's cool to have lots of guys named for people on dakka. Especially with the sketches.
See above!
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Dude, you win the multiquote award for the day.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Did I win it the other day too? I think that took up almost an entire page.
On topic- I HAVE THE BITZ!!!!! They are here in my hands screaming for assembly! I can not wait to get going on this!
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tony_nids_10 wrote: Did I win it the other day too? I think that took up almost an entire page.
On topic- I HAVE THE BITZ!!!!! They are here in my hands screaming for assembly! I can not wait to get going on this!
AWESOME whooot i cant wait for your P&M blog tis a good day in the universe
i like the idea of scouts a whole scout company would be awesome
and by what i meant about 300 marines being sacrificed is i thought we could get alot of the blood angel count as Elite like we could do the lore
about astorath proxy and sanguinary priest and guard and of sanguianus i fubar'ed that...and i dont know...im going to give all the regular followers a sketch up as a marine
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@Vignor- I like the idea of a scout company too! I think thats the way to go. I actually picked up a sanguinor exemplar of the host today too. I'm going to be cutting his mop top head off and filing off the BA symbols and switching an arm or two and using him as a special character.
I really like the idea of everyone on here actually being a REAL part of my army. Makes me happy Why dont you good sir take the honor of the dreadnought? You gave me termi armor and thats enough for me
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Post by: whalemusic360
"10th company" lists can be pretty good too. I hate scouts, but that's besides the point. I think its cuz they are elites in the DA dex.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I will admit that some of the figures I make may not actually make it into the army list. Some I'm just going to make because I can
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All right tony! Go for it! Can't wait to see what you're going to concoct...
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Don't I have to soak my new resin bits before I do anything with them? If so what do I have to do
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PM'd answer...
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Thanks git! I do have to say that I am slightly disappointed in these bits... There is going to be some decent cutting and trimming to get them to be symetrical at the very least. Not to mention that they are starting to look more like termi torsos than standard SM torsos... This may be bad.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Bummer. There's always the sang guard option.
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At the moment I'm looking at them and I see how I'm going to alter them for the termis. So it wont be a total loss. I will be using almost entirely sang guard torsos for the rest of the army. Not to mention the heads are pretty great...minus the few with giant bubbles missing from them. Nothing a little GS cant fill in.
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Post by: bigmek35
can i make an army list?
im thinking a 1500 pointer?
how bout you tony?
AND SCREW MY CHAOS ARMY! IM MAKING A COPY OF THESE GUYS!
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bigmek35 wrote:can i make an army list?
im thinking a 1500 pointer?
how bout you tony?
AND SCREW MY CHAOS ARMY! IM MAKING A COPY OF THESE GUYS!
Go for it 1500 is good sized! Just share the list after I'm using the BA codex for mine.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
If we're all becoming named characters in this army, I have to be the sleezy traitor who gets himself wtfpwn'd everytime but comes back anyway coz' he's chaos and chaos says he can. jk
I'm actually still following this , despite my lag of contribution over the last couple of pages .
I'm just waiting for the models to start coming in!
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Darkvoidof40k wrote:If we're all becoming named characters in this army, I have to be the sleezy traitor who gets himself wtfpwn'd everytime but comes back anyway coz' he's chaos and chaos says he can. jk
I'm actually still following this , despite my lag of contribution over the last couple of pages .
I'm just waiting for the models to start coming in!
You can be the commander of the successor chapter from the shields that becomes renegade and the shields one goal until end of time is to wipe you and your brethren off the face galaxy i actually like this idea!!!!!! What about the rest of you what do you say About this? Automatically Appended Next Post: tony_nids_10 wrote:bigmek35 wrote:can i make an army list?
im thinking a 1500 pointer?
how bout you tony?
AND SCREW MY CHAOS ARMY! IM MAKING A COPY OF THESE GUYS!
Go for it 1500 is good sized! Just share the list after I'm using the BA codex for mine.
What Would you say if i joined bigmek and started my own shields TOO!!! Automatically Appended Next Post: tony_nids_10 wrote:Thanks git! I do have to say that I am slightly disappointed in these bits... There is going to be some decent cutting and trimming to get them to be symetrical at the very least. Not to mention that they are starting to look more like termi torsos than standard SM torsos... This may be bad.
there Almost the size of terminators good lord...But just think Greeks use to make there Hero Twice the size of a normal man Hercules Stood almost 12 Feet tall and thats the reasons why Greek statues are more largely portioned then that of a normal man...But from a modeling
Stand point i can see where that can be a bad thing mis portioned  Maybe you can do a true scale marine hero squad
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673.M36 Chapter Master Darkvoidof40k of the Paragons of Faith ( ) chapter, successor to the Emperor's Shields chapter of Adeptus Astartes, declares his independance of the Imperium and, with his fleet-based chapter, rampage through several systems, killing billions. When their campaign of pillaging and killing are interrupted by the Emperor's Shields - deployed in full chapter strength - they immediately withdraw to the Eye of Terror, but not before they virus bomb several planets.
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3 Companies of The emperors shields Follow into The EYE With holy fury Accompanied with a company of mantis warriors..i thought it would be cool to throw Gitsplitta into the mix ive been following his mantis warriors...."the Paragons of Faith SHALL NOT SUFFER!!! as heretics or disgrace our prodigean no more..with me my shields into the eye we will go"
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And with that Commander tonynidious Gave the orders to warp jump.....some one else continue
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Post by: Miss Dee
how about the squad leaders have a plume on the helmets and each squad member has a small buckler on the left arm.
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Voidiom nuacturnium
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vignor wrote:Voidiom nuacturnium
^ it's not latin, so I don't know what it is.
Anyway, I've been looking for an excuse to create fluff for/build a CSM army, but not with the CSM 'dex. Atleast not the official one (I use a better one instead).
If I do get round to actually doing this army, asides from my parents going mad about me not finishing my 5k-ish pts of SM and my 1k-ish points of guard, then I'll make sure to tell y'all about it.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Darkvoidof40k wrote:If we're all becoming named characters in this army, I have to be the sleezy traitor who gets himself wtfpwn'd everytime but comes back anyway coz' he's chaos and chaos says he can. jk
I'm actually still following this , despite my lag of contribution over the last couple of pages .
I'm just waiting for the models to start coming in!
Theres always a traitor somewhere....
vignor wrote:Darkvoidof40k wrote:If we're all becoming named characters in this army, I have to be the sleezy traitor who gets himself wtfpwn'd everytime but comes back anyway coz' he's chaos and chaos says he can. jk
I'm actually still following this , despite my lag of contribution over the last couple of pages .
I'm just waiting for the models to start coming in!
You can be the commander of the successor chapter from the shields that becomes renegade and the shields one goal until end of time is to wipe you and your brethren off the face galaxy i actually like this idea!!!!!! What about the rest of you what do you say About this?
I say good call!
vignor wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:bigmek35 wrote:can i make an army list?
im thinking a 1500 pointer?
how bout you tony?
AND SCREW MY CHAOS ARMY! IM MAKING A COPY OF THESE GUYS!
Go for it 1500 is good sized! Just share the list after I'm using the BA codex for mine.
What Would you say if i joined bigmek and started my own shields TOO!!!
I would say welcome to the chapter Battle Brother!
vignor wrote:tony_nids_10 wrote:Thanks git! I do have to say that I am slightly disappointed in these bits... There is going to be some decent cutting and trimming to get them to be symetrical at the very least. Not to mention that they are starting to look more like termi torsos than standard SM torsos... This may be bad.
there Almost the size of terminators good lord...But just think Greeks use to make there Hero Twice the size of a normal man Hercules Stood almost 12 Feet tall and thats the reasons why Greek statues are more largely portioned then that of a normal man...But from a modeling
Stand point i can see where that can be a bad thing mis portioned Maybe you can do a true scale marine hero squad
I'll figure something out... I am still quite upset by this but maybe either termis or a ts squad is the way to go.
Miss Dee wrote:how about the squad leaders have a plume on the helmets and each squad member has a small buckler on the left arm.
Good idea! I have some really great looking heads for some of these guys.
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
212.M37 - as his first act, the newly appointed Chapter Master Ralkos of the Emperor's Shield chapter, declares that he will lead a hunt into the Eye of Terror, not resting until the disgraceful smear upon their history that is the Paragons of Faith from existance - in this realm and the next. With seven companies of space marines and most of the Chapter's vehicles, Ralkos sets off into the Eye of Terror.
233.M37 - three battered battle company's return from their crusade into the Eye, bearing the crippled body of their fallen Master. Though the tales of their battle's with their traitorous brethren is long and glorious, having killed hundreds of the Paragons of Faith, they were ultimately defeated when the Chaos Lord Darkvoidof40k lead a surprise assault at the head of a Daemonic horde, and he eviscerated Ralkos before his brothers. Under the command of Captain Asargis of the first company, the remaining three-hundred and fifty Shields' withdrew, unaple to face the remainder of the Paragons' might and the daemons combined. Asargis swears vengeance, and it becomes a tradition for every new Chapter Master to lead a crusade in an attempt to destroy the Paragons of Faith.
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Looks good Void!
After cleaning up the new bits I will be assembling my first SM and posting it here with a link to the new P&M thread! Automatically Appended Next Post: There is one side to having more people doing my chapter... More people whos army will look better than mine
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Post by: vignor
scout Sargent big mek
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Ah, wonderful then. Every army needs a standard bearer guy (even if they aren't the best buy for your command squad)
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Post by: whalemusic360
Cant wait to see what else cool fluff and art you come up with. I suck at both, so I'm no help. Really looking forward to the Dreds. I love using em in my BA lists.
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I like the fact that there are now a few of us using this chapter It would be cool to see some succesor chapters.
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*ahem*
Automatically Appended Next Post: Btw, whose geneseed is this chapter from? I was thinking maybe they were created in the Dark Founding, and forgotten about (damned administratum and their brilliant filekeeping skillz!).
I was originally thinking of a few less likely idea's:
They are created from traitor geneseed (very unlikely, but perhaps an experiment or something?)
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Darkvoidof40k wrote:*ahem* Automatically Appended Next Post: Btw, whose geneseed is this chapter from? I was thinking maybe they were created in the Dark Founding, and forgotten about (damned administratum and their brilliant filekeeping skillz!). I was originally thinking of a few less likely idea's: They are created from traitor geneseed (very unlikely, but perhaps an experiment or something?)
21st founding sounds cool but not the traitor geneseed, i would say they are made from ultrasmurfs (what thier roman and we are greek?) and maybe have them like Real anceint greeks like the gaurdsmen could be farmers from the city states (Atheons Prime is the capital) and the emporer shields fortress monestary is in Sparantian Delta, how bout it? also to have power armour your in the second company and to get Termie Armour you need to be in the first co how bout it?
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Space Marines without power armour are just gun fodder. They have power armour because they are too precious to be gun fodder.
Besides, if they were from ultrasmurfs they would all die of /boohoo/ because they were completely ignoring the Codex Astartes when it says: "WEAR YOUR POWER ARMOUR!"
Terminator armour for first company - pretty much every chapter (if not EVERY chapter) has that.
I think it is going to be the 21st founding. That or Ultramarines, because all of the chapter's created from them are not listed. It is true that not all Smurf successors follow the Codex Astartes - take the Mortifactors for example.
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Allow me to step in and settle this... NO ULTRAMARINES! Ok now then, 21st founding sounds good but the chapter as a whole just doesn't seem tragic or generally odd. There has to be some middleground between the smurfs and the other (cooler) chapters
As soon as the wife gets home with the camera I will pop a shot or two of the commander I'm working on. So far it is made up of a scibor head, a commander rear torso w/cape, sang guard torso front, assault marine running legs, power sword, and commander bolter. The backpack is the once from the command pack but I'm a little up in the air on it. I'll start the other thread as soon as I get a pic to post. I want to find a suitable shield to go on the gun arm too just to round out the look, thoughts? Automatically Appended Next Post: So Bigmek and vignor, when are we going to get all this fluff info and pics sorted and put into a "codex"
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well tony like how your wife has your camra, my school has the only scaner that dose not want to kill me
but i am working on the fluff maybe they are from the unknown primarch chapter! that and the primachs are like the greek gods (loyalists are the gods, not zeus hes replaced by the big E, trators are the titans) how bout it?
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I love that idea BM! Good call!
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i like the idea tooo maybe they were erased from the index to cover up there crusade
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so tony im thinking the codex will be like the ones that BoLS put out, it would have something like "units replace bolt pistol with a CCW for free and have aceses to combat shields for +5 points per model"
and power wepons would be spears
I all so dont like the idea of the chapter being reduced to 3 companies maybe they lost 3 how bout?
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Thats what i was talking about they sacrafice 3 companys like how the 300 hundred spartans gave there life to delay Persia so the rest of Greece could prepare there defenses and raise armies i would not think of reduction the shields to 3 company's
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I didn't like that idea before. It seems so very dark angels. Maybe lost 3 of the 10 or so.
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shure 3 out of ten that seem fair
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Post by: Samus_aran115
Maybe the raven guard or imperial fists?
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^ nah i like the lost primach idea
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I still like the lost primarch idea.
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Lost primarch Idea sounds best.
Any idea for a cool name?
(if it has been said already, I'm sorry, I haven't read through the whole thread, I just contributed once a while back)
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The chapter name is The Emperor's Shields. As for the primarch..no clue.
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tony_nids_10 wrote:The chapter name is The Emperor's Shields.
No. Fething. Way.
I knew that silly, I meant the primarch's name.
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Any ideas bBL?
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Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer
Since you replace the big E with Zeus, that leaves the name open if ya catch my drift.
Also, I think Hermes is the coolest of the God's Names.
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Antia-culaculus
ANTIACOLOKULOUS
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how bout not hermes? i dont know hes just anoying in my opinion, maybe Prometheus?
that and the reason thier the "lost chapter" is that the entier world got caught in a warp storm and cut off from the impierium
200 years later they get reunited with the impirium but they are shocked at how much it has changed yet they still fight for it (not for the emporer but for humanity like he would have wanted)
Prometheus died saving thier homeworld from a deamon atack led by a deamon prince named "the lord of a thousand tears" that threatend the whole sector.
HOW A BOUT DAT?!
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I just think the name Hermes is cool. The god was a d-bag.
That is a cool name.
How about Hephaestus, or Hyperion?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
Why don't we stay a little further from the mainstream when it comes to names. I like the homebrew feel of the chapter.
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how about PROMETHION?
ya know tony thats why i came to this thread WHATS MORE HOMEBREW THAN GREEK MARINES?
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Post by: tony_nids_10
I like promethion! Its based firmly on the mythos and still not the exact same! Thats all I'm looking for!
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I like promethion tooo!!!!!! Prometheus was a titan that brought fire to mortals
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APOLLODOROS
THAIS
ZOSIMUS
Remember these names from my first post
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Biggus Dikkus
Oh sorry, that's Roman... not Greek.
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Darkvoidof40k wrote:212.M37 - as his first act, the newly appointed Chapter Master Ralkos of the Emperor's Shield chapter, declares that he will lead a hunt into the Eye of Terror, not resting until the disgraceful smear upon their history that is the Paragons of Faith from existance - in this realm and the next. With three-hundred warriors from his chapter, Ralkos sets off into the Eye of Terror.
233.M37 - Twenty-three Space Marines return from their crusade into the Eye, bearing the crippled body of their fallen Master. Though the tales of their battle's with their traitorous brethren is long and glorious, having killed many times their own number of the Paragons of Faith, they were ultimately defeated when the Chaos Lord Darkvoidof40k [will find a more appropriate name eventually] lead a surprise assault at the head of a Daemonic horde, and he eviscerated Ralkos before his brothers. Under the command of Captain Asargis of the first company, the remaining fifty Shields' withdrew, unaple to face the remainder of the Paragons' might and the daemons combined, although as they evacuate many more Space Marines are lost. The Chapter is severely damaged at the loss of so much of their fighting force, along with all of the equipment that Ralkos had taken with him - and more importantly - geneseed of their dead brothers; which is all now in the hands of the Paragons of Faith. Asargis swears vengeance, and it becomes a tradition for every new Chapter Master to lead a crusade in an attempt to destroy the Paragons of Faith.
^ updated it to make it more interesting, i.e. more hate between the two chapters and a 300 thing going on .
All of you who are saying they lost too many (now that it's fixed, not really anymore), well it WAS M37, so they've had 4000 years to recover.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, as for the codex, I do believe I can help with that.
//scurries off to do a first attempt//
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What if The Shields were crusading for a piece tech that was stolen from them by one of the other unknown chapters that had the power to restore the emperor a "Golden fleece" type thing...They were guarding it until the Mechanicus could perfect it but the renegade marines were like we'll steal it to restore horus but as the renegades exited the planet the set off a major warp storm that cut the shields and them self off from the imperium and sent them straight to the eye of terror or just to another horror filled galaxy ...and because of these absentee legions gulliman was like well there not here there either dead or traitorous so we'll let em slip by with a blank because the inquisition was like you have to cover this up the imperium can not handle any more news about a ton of super humans just dropping off the radar like that this would just cause more chaos and turmoi...so for 10,00 years the shields gave pursuit recruting from where ever they could find humans that would pass the the apothecary and chaplains of the Chapter they would take em and train em but remember when the marines
went through the hell gates they were at legion strength so thats like 30.000 marine right there and it happened right as the heresy took place so the legions had guard regiments under there control so that could be millions of guards men at the get go and as the crusade ebbed and wanned they would replace there equipment with what matériel they could find and recycle...and the Mechanicus
finds all kinds of non standard tech...and as always the marines would shout for the emperor and the traitors would shout for blood for the blood god and the shields would look at each other lke wtf is he talking about for a long time until they realized what went down with there brothers back west and the shields Primarch was like ohh no dads been hurt bad we need that crap back from them to restore the emperor...what do you all think about my mindless ramble Automatically Appended Next Post: and its nice to see some new faces
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
No, they can't do that I'm afraid. To be erased from all records and history in the Imperium, you need to do something far worse than the heresy (as it was not erased) and getting lost isn't worse.
I think this chapter should go the Blood Ravens way and just have an unknown primarch - not knowing who they're from.
Anyway, for this codex (I've got the entire codex template already on my PC that was for another project that died miserably (thank god it wasn't mine ). I need some images for the front cover, so if anyone has any particular images, suggestions are good!
I was thinking an Emperor's Shield marine standing over a dead CSM or something (but I don't have an image).
Naturally, it'd have to be in colour.
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Post by: vignor
Darkvoidof40k wrote:No, they can't do that I'm afraid. To be erased from all records and history in the Imperium, you need to do something far worse than the heresy (as it was not erased) and getting lost isn't worse. .
i would not dare erase the dark void i was thinking of making you into the enemy Primarch...and it happend as soon as the heresy started like horus told you to take all of your boys and beat down mr.nids door and run in and steal his defibrillator and mr.nids would be like hey dark void why you stealing my stuff and he gathers all his boys up and is like were gonna stomp you but you open up the warp to escape but you catch mr.nids and shield legion in the warp hole with you and your slung way out of bounds and you fight fight fight!!!!!
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Post by: Darkvoidof40k
Lol ok.. I disagree, because that's just the same as being part of the heresy.
I think we should just stick with the Emperor's Shields being made from the same geneseed as the Ultramarines, but as Tony doesn't like that idea (I can't see why..) then they should probably be made from the geneseed of the Imperial Fists (cause they're pwnage). Unless, of course, you want them to be BA successors, or just use the BA 'dex for "counts-as" and think of reasons for this special rule and that, as well as renaming the special characters (if you use any).
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Post by: Miss Dee
Why not from the Iron Hands or Raven Guard?
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