Recently on a thread in the background section a fairly large group of Dakkites and I work out alot of the details of a SM chapter I have been dreaming about for more than a few years. If you want all of the background take a trip over here---> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/310304.page <---- and let me know any ideas you may have.


Allow me to introduce you to the two newest (and only ) Members of the Emperor's Shields Space Marine Chapter!


Vanguard Veteran Sergeant VIGNORIS



Chapter Master to be named later

As always Constructive criticism is always welcome. I'm not doing any massive conversions yet mostly just kit bashes to get the feel I'm looking for and from there I plan on expanding into more areas.

Make sure you head over to the background thread to see some of the concept art done by the amazing vignor.

The arm on the chapter master that is at his side should be holding a spear close to the tip, and resting the wooden shaft along the back of his arm.

I read your fluff thread, and this seem to be a pretty awesome project. Will look as it proceeds.

This...is...TERRA?!

Sorry, the first thing that came to mind when I saw them was 300. Look cool though, I'll be sure to read up on their fluff.

thanks for taking the plume idea from me looks cool.

Grey. Knight. Halberds.

'nuff said.

That will work.

where did you get those heads ??

Darkwulf wrote:where did you get those heads ??

There's a link in the fluff thread.

They are from Scibor. I'm really glad I got the heads. The torsos were a bit of a letdown but I will eventually find a use for them. I am eventually going to get some more bits from other places for these guys. I need to get a TON of sang guard torsos. I am going to try and get the whole army with them! May not work out that way

Shouldnt the Chapter Master have the biggest plumes? Like in 300, Leonidas had the biggest (plume, you perverts).

Bitz box ..... I have 5 primed black, Im not going to use them.

I was thinking that but I don't really want to go that route. I'm thinking rather than the size of your "plume" Rank wil be denoted by the color of your crest

Miss Dee wrote:thanks for taking the plume idea from me looks cool.

Funny pretty sure I heard something mentioned in my history seminars about Romans and Greeks adding plumes to their helmets too, lol, just messing.

They look great and I really look forward to seeing more Son's of Ares and the Son's of Sparta (I think those are the names I will check) are two similarly themed armies that you may want to have a look at.

Or you could do helmet-colour-codin'. But the plume is a better idea.


Blue = normal marine
Blue + red stripes = assault marine (unless your whole army is assault marine)
Blue + green = Devastators
Red = Commander

Just a few quick thoughts.. took me about 30 seconds .

@void- It will prob end up being a mix of the two

@Lennysmash- No worries, I know I'm not the first person to do this idea. Thankfully I had the help of a great group of people to give me a hand coming up with ideas and such.

whalemusic360 wrote:Shouldnt the Chapter Master have the biggest plumes? Like in 300, Leonidas had the biggest (plume, you perverts).

Agree here... It doesn't feel right when the first guy have a lot bigger plume than the CM (What was his name again? Achilles? Odysseus?). Plumes equals power!

FINE! I'll switch the damn plumes

Off to a good start.

Id say keep them the same so he cant be picked out by snipers.

@nids- you misunderstand I was just joking with Miss Dee when she said it was her idea, that's all.

@Miss Dee- no offence meant, just joking.

Back on topic though have you checked out maxmini's Black Lotus conversion pieces, I think they may add some real character for combat shields and the like. Also take a look at Urban Wars Junkers range these may also hold some inspiration for you.

none taken

Very cool start 'Nids, I suggest lots of "power" spears and short gladius styled swords (sorry if this was gone over in the background thread I was too lazy to read it)

I don't mean to be a casting pusher but have you thought about casting the torsos so you will have enough? Its what I ended up having to do for my Sabre Legion.

Lennysmash wrote:@nids- you misunderstand I was just joking with Miss Dee when she said it was her idea, that's all.

I understood smash, I've seen a few chapters like this out there. I just hope to make them my own.

Lennysmash wrote:Back on topic though have you checked out maxmini's Black Lotus conversion pieces, I think they may add some real character for combat shields and the like. Also take a look at Urban Wars Junkers range these may also hold some inspiration for you.

I'll have to go look at those. Last time I went to maxmini's the online store was closed for a con.

whalemusic360 wrote:Off to a good start.

BLACKHAND wrote:Very cool start 'Nids, I suggest lots of "power" spears and short gladius styled swords (sorry if this was gone over in the background thread I was too lazy to read it)

I don't mean to be a casting pusher but have you thought about casting the torsos so you will have enough? Its what I ended up having to do for my Sabre Legion.

Thanks for the support BH. I would love to do some casting but sadly It will be a bit before I can buy the supplies...

tony_nids_10 wrote:

Lennysmash wrote:@nids- you misunderstand I was just joking with Miss Dee when she said it was her idea, that's all.

I understood smash, I've seen a few chapters like this out there. I just hope to make them my own.

Lennysmash wrote:Back on topic though have you checked out maxmini's Black Lotus conversion pieces, I think they may add some real character for combat shields and the like. Also take a look at Urban Wars Junkers range these may also hold some inspiration for you.

I'll have to go look at those. Last time I went to maxmini's the online store was closed for a con.

whalemusic360 wrote:Off to a good start.

BLACKHAND wrote:Very cool start 'Nids, I suggest lots of "power" spears and short gladius styled swords (sorry if this was gone over in the background thread I was too lazy to read it)

I don't mean to be a casting pusher but have you thought about casting the torsos so you will have enough? Its what I ended up having to do for my Sabre Legion.

Thanks for the support BH. I would love to do some casting but sadly It will be a bit before I can buy the supplies...

Good to see another Space Marine Chapter up and running if you need Help. i can Definately try and help you....

@Asherian Command- I'm always up for more help.

At the moment I'm putting out an APB- All Points Bulletin for Sang guard torsos.

Lovely figures! An army of these guys would be very nice. Are you thinking of adding any more spartan stuff to them? (like round shields or swords where you can fit them in).

@Commander Cain- I'm going to try and make/get some Shields and spears. There will also be some attempts at making swords for them.

TAKE THAT =I= OFF HIS BELT

Hahaha Thank you Mr.nids for placing me into the ranks..and as for different colored plumes i think is a wonder full idea and i like Mr.voids idea of the mixes but my only suggestion to that is don't use blue in the color scheme!!! remember our primarch hates robute...well to me he hates girlyman anyway haha...and for the plume idea the bigger the plume the higher the rank i dont care to much for that cause it reminds me of where i live the bigger the mullet the more white trash you are lololol but i think the commander should have a unique plume to himself..and what bigmek said about the inqusitor emblem just green stuff it til it looks like a Trojan shield...


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or better yet just leave the inquisition on there i kind of like it and i think we could work it into the fluff


Hahaha wanna make him look a bit more like me give him a GS chin beard like Scott Ian

Well I may be opening a can of worms here but...

I have a Sabre Legion marine for Great Marine Swap ready for you, he would have been in the post already but I haven't finished his backpack and my 40skaven have recently taken up all my modelling time.

Excuses aside I was wondering if you have a design in mind for a shield?
The reason I say shield is I don't think the chestplate I did for my Sabre Legion are quite right for your chapter, they are less breastplate than naked chest but I could do sculpt a shield for you, make up a mould, cast a few and sent the mould and casts to you with the GMS marine?

Just a thought, not sure if you are up to that point yet or even if you want to do a "spartan" type shield at all. It mainly comes to mind because it would be relatively easy to sculpt and cast

Personally I don't think that the shields should be the same though. SM are more of a band of heroes than an army of soldiers, as such they are equipped in a different manner to formations such as the Imperial Guard. I think individual shield designs or heraldries should be used to add a little bit more character to your army. I think a more Athenian concept rather than an Spartan concept would give you the individuality you want.

Black hand it could be an idea to sculpt two of three blank shields of different sizes though. This would represent the natural progression that all armour and wargear goes through. It would further emphasise that fact that these shields were honoured artefacts and not just a bulk order from AdeptusMechcanicus.com.

"Athenian" meaning a group of heroic warriors instead of a squad of soldiers?

I could always make a "blank" shield with no heraldic device which would allow Tony_nids to freehand personal devices on the shields for each warrior.

Edit : I really don't mean to hijack your thread though Nids! sorry!

No sorry I didn't make my self clear, the concept of Sm as a band of rank and file soldiers I think is disappearing these days thanks largely to the BL novels. Personally I see each marine as one of the Imperium's greatest heroes, as such I think the concept of individuals fighting as a whole is better than the IG idea of a sea of faceless/nameless billions.

The Athenian concept was more to do with the shield design, since each man eligible to fight was required to supply his own wargear shields were decorated in a more personal and stylised way, depicting favoured gods or heroes. My point is that it would renforce the idea of individual heroes fighting as one.


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If you go with the Greek style just remember the hoplite shield is big bad not the little sissy shields from warhammer that I used. In my defence though I only used them because Blackhand hadn't done his thread on casting yet, .

BLACKHAND wrote:Well I may be opening a can of worms here but...

I have a Sabre Legion marine for Great Marine Swap ready for you, he would have been in the post already but I haven't finished his backpack and my 40skaven have recently taken up all my modelling time.

Excuses aside I was wondering if you have a design in mind for a shield?
The reason I say shield is I don't think the chestplate I did for my Sabre Legion are quite right for your chapter, they are less breastplate than naked chest but I could do sculpt a shield for you, make up a mould, cast a few and sent the mould and casts to you with the GMS marine?

Just a thought, not sure if you are up to that point yet or even if you want to do a "spartan" type shield at all. It mainly comes to mind because it would be relatively easy to sculpt and cast

That would be amazing!!

Lennysmash wrote:Personally I don't think that the shields should be the same though. SM are more of a band of heroes than an army of soldiers, as such they are equipped in a different manner to formations such as the Imperial Guard. I think individual shield designs or heraldries should be used to add a little bit more character to your army. I think a more Athenian concept rather than an Spartan concept would give you the individuality you want.

Black hand it could be an idea to sculpt two of three blank shields of different sizes though. This would represent the natural progression that all armour and wargear goes through. It would further emphasise that fact that these shields were honoured artefacts and not just a bulk order from AdeptusMechcanicus.com.

What he said No really, I agreee with it all.

BLACKHAND wrote:

I could always make a "blank" shield with no heraldic device which would allow Tony_nids to freehand personal devices on the shields for each warrior.

Edit : I really don't mean to hijack your thread though Nids! sorry!

A Blank shield or 3 would be amazing! I don't mind the hijack if it ends with me having some awesome BLACKHAND shields and a mold or two

Lennysmash wrote:No sorry I didn't make my self clear, the concept of Sm as a band of rank and file soldiers I think is disappearing these days thanks largely to the BL novels. Personally I see each marine as one of the Imperium's greatest heroes, as such I think the concept of individuals fighting as a whole is better than the IG idea of a sea of faceless/nameless billions.

The Athenian concept was more to do with the shield design, since each man eligible to fight was required to supply his own wargear shields were decorated in a more personal and stylised way, depicting favoured gods or heroes. My point is that it would renforce the idea of individual heroes fighting as one.

If you go with the Greek style just remember the hoplite shield is big bad not the little sissy shields from warhammer that I used. In my defence though I only used them because Blackhand hadn't done his thread on casting yet, .

There is nothing I would like more than to make each one unique. I will do my absolute best to do so!

OH YEAH! I almost forgot... @Bigmek- I will be doing something to cover/remove that =I= from his belt... just not sure what yet.


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@vignor- If my GS-fu was stronger I would attempt the chin hair! I want to make one look a bit like me with the chin hair but alas I am not nearly that good. Oh, and welcome to the ranks battlebrother!


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Hey guys, I just wanted to say thanks again for all the ideas! There is one small item I want to talk about. I have to fund this project somehow and I was wondering if anyone was interested in some Tyranids?!? As well as everything in the thread below I will toss in pretty much every Tyranid bit I own... Not a small amount either. So please take a look and maybe help keep the Emperor's Shields going!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/313237.page

Tony, for facial hair there are lots of ways to paint it (although I have to say I couldn't really do it ). Stubble is one of the obvious ones..

I was thinking more along the lines of some GS work. I would have better luck painting it

Sits back and patiently awaits the arrival of more battle brothers...

@Vignor- There will be more battle brothers soon I promise! At the moment I am waiting (drooling the whole time) for some things a friend is custom making for me I swear it will be well worth the wait!

Oh and in oddly related news... I picked up a set of Sang guard to sift through for torsos and other bits. If anyone is interested I will have some bits left over too.

tony_nids_10 wrote:@Vignor- There will be more battle brothers soon I promise! At the moment I am waiting (drooling the whole time) for some things a friend is custom making for me I swear it will be well worth the wait!

i am intrigued NOw Very intrigued I wonder what it is...But still sits back and waits patently



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Quick question How many Marines Can you produces ATM just curious about the numbers...

Given the amount of torsos and legs I have (both Sang and tac marine) about 15 or so. Why?

Oh an I assure you the wait is worth it.

tony_nids_10 wrote:Given the amount of torsos and legs I have (both Sang and tac marine) about 15 or so. Why?

Oh an I assure you the wait is worth it.

oh i was just curious lol i haven't remember you say anything about the number of marines you were going to make or how many points your chapter is going to be worth...its one of the questions thats slipped my mind for the past month

I'm going for a prettty big army.

Looks tight yo.

The bigger the better

Those are looking great Tony! (WMs "plume envy" aside). Really looking forward to seeing the sternguard with arms and weapons.

vignor wrote:The bigger the better

I agree! I'm sure I wont end up making a HUGE army out of them but they will be taking the place of my nids as my primary army.

Gitsplitta wrote:Those are looking great Tony! (WMs "plume envy" aside). Really looking forward to seeing the sternguard with arms and weapons.

Git, that means a ton to me. I will have some fellows assembled soon enough. They are left a little separated for the sake of painting ease. If I had something to use to show what they are going to look like (blutac) I would but sadly I don't... :(

Samus_aran115 wrote:Looks tight yo.

Word

Mini update!!! I've been spending a ton of time carving BA icons off of the Sang guard bits I plan on keeping. There are more useful than just the torsos

That sounds very arduous lol keep up the good fight Mr.nids

No worries vig. I am a bit of an insomniac thanks to this new job so sitting up till 3 am trimming doesnt seem so tough. Waking up with the boys in the morning is much less fun though

tony_nids_10 wrote:

Oh and in oddly related news... I picked up a set of Sang guard to sift through for torsos and other bits. If anyone is interested I will have some bits left over too.

i would be interested, i am in need of BA parts for my BA army im going to start converting up. i'm looking for arms and heads.

Arms I think I may need though. If you want the heads for sure let me know since I'm only using 2 or 3 from the kit.

I love the death company bits. Probably going to buy some stuff when i get the chance ^.^ good luck.

I love Death Company bits too but I don't think they fit as well with the E'sS.

Who knows, maybe for my next army

tony_nids_10 wrote:I love Death Company bits too but I don't think they fit as well with the E'sS.

Who knows, maybe for my next army

maybe maybe. I'm going to buy some death company to get the rare armor ^.^

OHHH!!! Good call. Thats why I bought the sang guard

Sang Guard are cool looking when i buy them i'm going to use them as Honor Guard or Vanguard.

Between all the bits I'm going to have them spread across 3 or 4 squads!

tony_nids_10 wrote:Between all the bits I'm going to have them spread across 3 or 4 squads!

thats a smart idea. Why have i never figured that one out D:.
but anyway. I'm planning on buying some death company because they have jetpack torsos. Which i need for my extra legs.

Good call.

http://santacruzwarhammer.blogspot.com/

They have a barter bucket that works wonders.

Any parts you that have the chalice on Nids I'll happily take off you hands, If you like I can do a marine swap for the bits like I have with some other GMS members. Or we can see if I have any bits that you would like.

For the record I've combined both the BT upgrade sprue and the BA DC sprue with SM assault and tactical sprues to give me a Templar/ Holy Grail themed army, my God I love kitbashing

tony_nids_10 wrote:Arms I think I may need though. If you want the heads for sure let me know since I'm only using 2 or 3 from the kit.

yeah! i would love some heads!


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also when you think new pics will be up?

@ Tony_nids_10 pm me your address and I'll try and send them minis to you.

Ayeh! Just wanted to ask if you still need my addy

You didn't even ask for it in the last email

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/283684.page

Go look at the terminator pads...i think they look very greek

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=53

and look at them plumes

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=73

and shields

diversity is the spice of life

Nice, more crazy plumes!

You need any random bits tony? I may be able to help out there.

Great finds, Vig!

Looks like you have ally of painting ahead.

Hey no fair I've already put the maxmini stuff up just kidding thanks for the link to Micro Arts Vig, for some reason I always forget to check out their stuff.

Those micro arts minis are awesome! I'm not a big fan of the maximini heads. But ths shields are cool. Though I wont be getting any shields from them

You'll see what I mean in a week or so.

Must... see ...paint....

I'd try a Sherwin Williams

whalemusic360 wrote:I'd try a Sherwin Williams

LMAO!!!


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tony_nids_10 wrote:Those micro arts minis are awesome! I'm not a big fan of the maximini heads. But ths shields are cool. Though I wont be getting any shields from them

You'll see what I mean in a week or so.

Hahaha you should of used a spoiler alert

Trust me vig. Thanks to BLACKHAND (thats right!) The E'sS will have some amazing shields!

Now that was a spoiler

Looking good so far.

When are we going to see some more minis! lol

Jake Bake A Cake wrote:Looking good so far.

When are we going to see some more minis! lol

I'm just waiting for some custom bits made by a friend to come in the mail and once I have a full day off from the 2 jobs production will go into full swing!

Sorry guys, it's my fault there have been no pics, Tony_nids has been waiting for me to finish casting and post the shields over to him.

I'm sure once the arrive there will be a mad flurry of gluing and picture taking!

BLACKHAND wrote:Sorry guys, it's my fault there have been no pics, Tony_nids has been waiting for me to finish casting and post the shields over to him.

I'm sure once the arrive there will be a mad flurry of gluing and picture taking!

And then I'll start working on the marines! Wait? What's going on?

Just kidding, as soon as the aformentioned shields arrive and I have a day off I will indeed be avoiding the outside world while I work on something worth posting!

YaaY more Marines

Looking forward to it!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/317889.page

Miss Dee wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/317889.page

The helmets are a bit chunky looking to me like a fisher price space marine helmet but the shield was cool

I made some progress today while taking care of the wife (pulled tooth- OUCH!) Tore the head off of the chapter master and decided that the body was rubbish. Also sat down and made a chainspear- I like how it looks so far but we shall see. Also I started the process of cutting up the BA special character Sanguinor, Exemplar of the Host to make him fit into my squad as a squad leader for the assault squad or the counts as sanguinary guard. Not sure what one yet. I will have pics as soon as I find the camera. I need some serious input on the chain-spear once I get the pics up.

I really like the helmets.. i wanted to do that to my chapter.

Cant say I blame ya, I thought the guy you put together looked better then the master.

A Chainspear sounds F&A

Tony I would gladly pay you Tuesday for an update today!!!

yeah tony. Hurry up and maek moar spesh muhreens!

I'll have you know that's spelled Spehss Mahreens.

*waits..eagerly*

Only when your drunk... very drunk

do any of you know the tale of how cornmeal came to be?

Hello again friends! I had 3 packages waiting for me when I went to visit family at my mothers house recently. Package A and B were the DKoK and 3 superheavy tanks as well as 4 other smaller tanks and the big ol' Apoc hardcover. The third package was considerably smaller but I wont lie I was WAY more excited to see that one! Inside, as promised was a multitude of custom made bits from none other than BLACKHAND himself! Included in this mini box of wonders were shields- for obvious uses! Arms to hold the shields and some minotaur shoulderpads for yet another project I have been toying with for some time now, I'll get to that later. I know what you are thinking, was there more in the box?! YES! Mr. HAND even sent along the moulds for the 2 styles of shields (yes there are 2) the arms and the pads! I can not tell you how excited I am to get some assembly going and to at last get some pics up!

You lucky dog you...

You have no idea Git! I am so excite to get the first E'sS done and posted! I'm still blown away by the shields! Two styles even!

Blackhand is a good egg... and damn talented too!

Yeah hes got like + 9000 karma points goin.

Wish I had 3 super heavy tanks! Or one Someday.....

Looking forward to seeing more of these chaps, i really like the idea

Yep, no excuses now, we want to see some pics soon
Even if it is of 'rheens rather than 'nids (still looking forlornly at the old blog... )

@Git- Yes, Yes he is!

@WM360- Wanna but a tank

@YL- Me too! I have a few partially assembled and now I can finish them!

If you wait for my Fin Aid (STILL waiting, at this point its just a reimbursement) to come back, I might be interested.

Looking forward to seeing how the shields go together with the Sanguinary guard chestplate and the custom helmets

And like I said I appreciate you following my blogs for so long, I was happy to help out.

tony_nids_10 wrote:Hello again friends! I had 3 packages waiting for me when I went to visit family at my mothers house recently. Package A and B were the DKoK and 3 superheavy tanks as well as 4 other smaller tanks and the big ol' Apoc hardcover. The third package was considerably smaller but I wont lie I was WAY more excited to see that one! Inside, as promised was a multitude of custom made bits from none other than BLACKHAND himself! Included in this mini box of wonders were shields- for obvious uses! Arms to hold the shields and some minotaur shoulderpads for yet another project I have been toying with for some time now, I'll get to that later. I know what you are thinking, was there more in the box?! YES! Mr. HAND even sent along the moulds for the 2 styles of shields (yes there are 2) the arms and the pads! I can not tell you how excited I am to get some assembly going and to at last get some pics up!

I leave for school, been gone a month, and you're ordering Forge World stuff?! What else am I missing out on?! I demand pictures ASAP. And I'm tagging this thread so I can follow it. Hoping to see some good stuff man

yay yay yay yay more marines soon yayayayay

And DKOK Yayyayayyyaay

if you cant tell i am excited

As promised here are some pics of the new Battle Brother! Complete with ccw and custom BLACKHAND Shield!! I Washed it in some mud first to bring out the details. Hope you like it!


and


Let me know what you think. I promise that it looks a bit more dynamic in person!

Also I have started a minor side project involving the 21st founding. With the help of BLACKHAND I have the shoulderpads for the first member of the Minotaurs chapter! I'm going to be making a squad or so of each chapter for fun. Here is a look at the first marine with the custom shoulderpad!



As always Constructive Criticism is always welcome!


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@Monkeytroll- I havn't forgotten about the bugs! I am slowly working of swapping out a solid chunck of my army for other units so I can build a list I actually like

they loook beautiful way to go!

Thanks Sage! I have a few more in various wip stages that I wont be able to post yet.

It looks good but I think the shield is too big.

The meaning of awesome is now fully apparant to me.

Can't wait for more! Who knows, you might find some traitors popping up soon.. or later.. probably later.

Very nice work Tony! Congrats!

Freaking sweet

@Agro- I thought theyu looked a little big too but I figure that they have alot more to deal with than just swords, spears, and arrows. In my head the extra size is justified

@Void- I cant wait to see you turn some of these fine fellows into traitors!

@Git & Vig- Glad you like em!

Also I am going to take some quick shots of the guy with a chainspear and the ton o' tanks too soon!

I think it will the shield will look better once there is paint on it, or a pattern or some desigin on it so its broken up and wont look as large.

you do know a strom shield is only used in combat right?

im consulting the oracles in the parthium and rounding up some bull groxs so we can give sacrifice and thanks to the big E for the arrival of new equipment from the artificer black hand....

@Agro- I agree that paint makes the difference with most models! I know storm shields are only used in combat I was speaking in fluff terms more than practical terms. Thanks for the insight though, it is always appreciated!

Now before anyone goes and yells at me here are the pictures I owe you!

First the tanks I got in!

Needs to be stripped

Overcompensation

I like the rust on this one

Stubby

Strip it down and fix the non-existent gun and Rusty will be good as new!

Bane

Storm

Hell


On to the DKoK! There are a bunch not pictured because they are not fully assembled or not on bases.



Some medium fire power!

Last but not least...well maybe least The improved Vignoris now with chainspear!





As always, let me know what you think! Thanks again for all the help everyone!

Chuck Noris will get off the golden throne and smight you for using his real name!

Chainsaw + pole = as good as it gets. Awwwww yeah baby.

Anyway, that model looks really good! Nice to know GW are improving their dark powers of moulding. Those Sguard pieces are amazing! //must turn traitor.


Edit: Btw, is that DKoK stuff second hand? And awesome to see you got the epicepicwin forgeworld CCS Commander in there! Just gotta strip 'em.

the chain spear is amazing mr.nids..and you are right about the over compensation hahaha do you want to build a levaithan to go along with your DKOK i have the perfect chaise for you a 1/6th scale M3 stuart tank it might actually make a better capitol imperailse excuse the awful mis spell...

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Chuck Noris will get off the golden throne and smight you for using his real name!

Chainsaw + pole = as good as it gets. Awwwww yeah baby.

Anyway, that model looks really good! Nice to know GW are improving their dark powers of moulding. Those Sguard pieces are amazing! //must turn traitor.


Edit: Btw, is that DKoK stuff second hand? And awesome to see you got the epicepicwin forgeworld CCS Commander in there! Just gotta strip 'em.

Thanks a ton Void! The DKoK is all second hand and everyone, including a tank or 5 are going to end up in the Simple Green pool for a bit!

vignor wrote:the chain spear is amazing mr.nids..and you are right about the over compensation hahaha do you want to build a levaithan to go along with your DKOK i have the perfect chaise for you a 1/6th scale M3 stuart tank it might actually make a better capitol imperailse excuse the awful mis spell...

I didn't make the Overcompensation, but I like it. It has a certain charm to it.

A leviathan aye.. Hmm I might just have to do that! What does a 1/6 scale something or other look like

I'm a fan of the spear though I think for the next one I will be using a smaller tip to see how that looks.



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OH! If anyone has any plasticard tubing they dont need I would be eternally greatful! I dont have anymore guns to destroy to make another spear

tony_nids_10 wrote:

Where did you get that sword from?! It's fantastic looking!

Was actually just thinking how cool it would be to have a 300-themed army... and lo and behold- I come across this gem!

The model-bashes are looking nice and clean, and if you are actually going with the color-scheme shown on the first page... this army is going to look fantastic...

Consider me subscribed!

1/6th is scaled for 12 inch figures like GI joe so it would be huge in 40k scale


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http://www.mark-1-tank.co.uk/games-workshop-baneblade.html

here is a bane blade at 1/6th scale

I'll repeat. SUPERHEAVIES!!!!!!!

Schnitzel wrote:

tony_nids_10 wrote:

Where did you get that sword from?! It's fantastic looking!

Sgard.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Scibor-Miniatures-SPARTAN-TORSOS-nib-/370427632515?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item563f351b83#ht_2283wt_753

May find them useful.

Lol, I can't believe how many superheavies you have!

there is no way I could concentrate on a marine chapter if I had all that sweet armour

Hmm, you say you haven't forgotten the bugs, then post LOTS of armour, some DKOK and a few marines,

Marines look good man, love the chain-spear

But very glad the bugs are not forgotten

monkeytroll wrote:Hmm, you say you haven't forgotten the bugs, then post LOTS of armour, some DKOK and a few marines,

Marines look good man, love the chain-spear

But very glad the bugs are not forgotten

Which bugs? The ones he's selling?

HF Izanagi wrote:Was actually just thinking how cool it would be to have a 300-themed army... and lo and behold- I come across this gem!

The model-bashes are looking nice and clean, and if you are actually going with the color-scheme shown on the first page... this army is going to look fantastic...

Consider me subscribed!

Glad to have you aboard! My GS-fu is pretty terrible so I try to make up for it with halfway decent kitbashes.

vignor wrote:1/6th is scaled for 12 inch figures like GI joe so it would be huge in 40k scale


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http://www.mark-1-tank.co.uk/games-workshop-baneblade.html

here is a bane blade at 1/6th scale

Oh my! That is amazing I would ride it around the yard

Samus_aran115 wrote:I'll repeat. SUPERHEAVIES!!!!!!!

Lennysmash wrote:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Scibor-Miniatures-SPARTAN-TORSOS-nib-/370427632515?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item563f351b83#ht_2283wt_753

May find them useful.

I picked up a set of those when I got the heads and found the torsos to be too big for regular SMs I am going to snag some Termi torsos and see if I cant combine the two into something usable. I may just end up trading or selling them.

BLACKHAND wrote:Lol, I can't believe how many superheavies you have!

there is no way I could concentrate on a marine chapter if I had all that sweet armour

I'm not going to lie friend, it makes it very difficult. I went ahead and put the box of new tanks up onto a shelf in the closet so I could stay focused for once

monkeytroll wrote:Hmm, you say you haven't forgotten the bugs, then post LOTS of armour, some DKOK and a few marines,

Marines look good man, love the chain-spear

But very glad the bugs are not forgotten

I still love those bugs very much! I REALLY want to get my flyrant painted up along with my custom Zoey.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

monkeytroll wrote:Hmm, you say you haven't forgotten the bugs, then post LOTS of armour, some DKOK and a few marines,

Marines look good man, love the chain-spear

But very glad the bugs are not forgotten

Which bugs? The ones he's selling?

The complete lack of interest in the trade thread killed that idea

Yay! Now you can have captured Gaunt auxiliaries! Screw the little blue book..

Awesome . It makes me want to buy stuff... AH WHAT THE F!

I sincerely hope I get to paint one of those behemoths! The offer still stands...20$+shipping cost

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Yay! Now you can have captured Gaunt auxiliaries! Screw the little blue book..

If only! In Apoc you can have pretty much whatever you want as allies so maybe I'll have The Shields, DKoK, and my hive fleet

Asherian Command wrote:Awesome . It makes me want to buy stuff... AH WHAT THE F!

You know you wanted to before

Samus_aran115 wrote:I sincerely hope I get to paint one of those behemoths! The offer still stands...20$+shipping cost

Maybe


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I'm working 12's all weekend so I wont have much time at all to do ANYTHING other than sleep. As soon as I get a day off I will get back on the horse!

tony_nids_10 wrote:I'm working 12's all weekend so I wont have much time at all to do ANYTHING other than sleep. As soon as I get a day off I will get back on the horse!

Sleep? What is this? I think I have a distant memory of it.. yes, damn you and your luck. I don't get "sleep" anymore.

Trust me friend, it's not much

tony_nids_10 wrote:Trust me friend, it's not much

I'll have you know it IS much. I shall never trust you again.

Working on an Emperor's Shields Venerable Dreadnought. Getting some bits together and waiting for a GF9 package to arrive in the post. Once I get the ven dread kit from my flgs I'm in pretty good shape to start the build. Going to make a gladius of overly large size out of plasticard and such for the dread along with the a shield of some kind or something fitting for a ranged weapon. Any ideas? You know what would help in addition to suggestions... a new sketch from Vig


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Also working on a counrts-as Sanguinor/assault sergeant with a CC weapon and a bolt pistol. Instead of having a jump pack I'm using some GS (I know, failure in the making) to make up some musculature for graphted wings.

tony_nids_10 wrote:Working on an Emperor's Shields Venerable Dreadnought. Getting some bits together and waiting for a GF9 package to arrive in the post. Once I get the ven dread kit from my flgs I'm in pretty good shape to start the build. Going to make a gladius of overly large size out of plasticard and such for the dread along with the a shield of some kind or something fitting for a ranged weapon. Any ideas? You know what would help in addition to suggestions... a new sketch from Vig


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Also working on a counrts-as Sanguinor/assault sergeant with a CC weapon and a bolt pistol. Instead of having a jump pack I'm using some GS (I know, failure in the making) to make up some musculature for graphted wings.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USE SANGUINARY GUARD WINGS or BUY FROM PAULSON GAMES --- RAAARGH (and wait for the libby dread conversion kit they're working on for the dread!)

Sanguinor could just be the chapter master who has been fighting for ~2000 years (maybe they have stupidly extended lives like the BA.. except more stupid! YAY) and whoever is affected with all the +1 rules could just be the same model each game who could be "The Master's Champion".


Hope that helped .

I like the ones on paulsons but I wanted a more natural/non mechanical wings.


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That and the joints on them bother me.

Good luck with that. Make a spear throwing gun....Like a giant crossbow thing...It'd be tight

I'm not so sure about that Samus.


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The preliminary GS sculpt looks ok. I'll try to get pics up once I have time to clean it up.

Just a thought...But maybe a giant red plume would be cooler. Yeah, do that too

I'm working on a appropriate head for the dread. Hopefully it doesn't come out like garbage

Got any pics of your libby head design?

Vignoris will commence on sketching asap hahaha im sorry ive not been contributing to the shields in awhile Ive been very busy taking care of my nephew but to give a bit of an idea for a ranged weapon whatta about some converting counting one of these as a
auto cannon

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440063a&prodId=prod790886


http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440093a&prodId=prod20020
or this as a missile pod

Vig, good to have you back! I hope you saw the upgrades to your namesake? I cant remember if you had or not. I just may do that for the autocannon conversion but using anything "elf" makes me feel dirty


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Though now that I think about it, I may use the second one for my DKoK army as a HW team.

I love the upgrade i think the chain spear is cool and very defining equipment to the shields that separates the shields from there other brothers...And i had placed two twin links to the elf repeater bow but i fixed to link to the hellblaster...and also i think you should GS the sword i think it would be easier to produces one that route and also you can glyph and battle damage it more easily

I'm feeling a bit fuzzy, GS what sword? The idea for the Dread?

tony_nids_10 wrote:Working on an Emperor's Shields Venerable Dreadnought. Getting some bits together and waiting for a GF9 package to arrive in the post. Once I get the ven dread kit from my flgs I'm in pretty good shape to start the build. Going to make a gladius of overly large size out of plasticard and such for the dread along with the a shield of some kind or something fitting for a ranged weapon. Any ideas? You know what would help in addition to suggestions... a new sketch from Vig

This one yes for the dread

Told you I was a little fuzzy!

you get the bits?

GAH. Tony! You changed your avatar, and now I have a hard time finding your posts.

NICE looking commissar though!

Samus_aran115 wrote:GAH. Tony! You changed your avatar, and now I have a hard time finding your posts.

NICE looking commissar though!

hahaha lmao i know what you mean i was looking for the nid but then i started reading the user name

Hmm... Maybe I should change it back to the nid? Maybe...

Anyways, I'm gotten a little more accomplished on the dread conversion. No head as of yet but reworking the hand and the legs is a ton of work in itself. This one Dread is turning into more of a project than I had intended Seems to be the way all of my projects end up.

Yeah, I got lost too. When I think tony, I literally think of that nid as you.

Deep down I knew this was going to happen... Either way I need your help (all of you) I need to make some knee joints for a walker and I am having a hell of a time trying to come up with something suitable. Any help?

What kind of walker?

The kind that requires longer legs

Go buy a transformer and hack it up for ball joints. The new Red Alert figure has good knees.

whalemusic360 wrote:Go buy a transformer and hack it up for ball joints. The new Red Alert figure has good knees.

His buns are also quite satisfactory ...How much are transformers going for these days? I want one just because I never got into them as a child...

hahaha you can goto the dollar General store if you have one near by and buy transformers preety freaking cheap i got my undermine figure for about 2 dollars about a month ago and also you could try using lego brand bionicles or the knights kingdom joints and maybe the hero factory thing they have going on

whalemusic360 wrote:Yeah, I got lost too. When I think tony, I literally think of that nid as you.

hahaha i think im going to put this is my sig line


And also Mr.Nids ive got a small question are you going to paint the lenses on the helmets red? cause i think it would look wicked with Green lenses to go with the red and golds kind of like a patina you get on bronze and cooper when it corrodes

The lenses I'm still up in the air about. I think I'll do tests a few ways and see how it looks.

You guys do realize that in reality I am not actually a Carnifex right?


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Also any non transformer related joint ideas would be great.

tony_nids_10 wrote:The lenses I'm still up in the air about. I think I'll do tests a few ways and see how it looks.

You guys do realize that in reality I am not actually a Carnifex right?


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Also any non transformer related joint ideas would be great.

Damn, If only I could remember you're OLDEST avatar. When you were still doing nids!

And no, I had no idea!

You can pick TFs up cheap at old lots or other closeout store. Depending on the size, a new one at wal-mart will run ya 8-65 bucks. I like the 12 and 21 dollar sizes myself.

Why not just make a joint out of plastic tubes. You'd have to glue it together after you got the pose, but it would be cheap and easy really.

Samus_aran115 wrote:
Damn, If only I could remember you're OLDEST avatar. When you were still doing nids!

You mean this once?

whalemusic360 wrote:
Why not just make a joint out of plastic tubes. You'd have to glue it together after you got the pose, but it would be cheap and easy really.

I stayed up for a few hours last night to work on my dread. I made the "arms" wider and pretty much completely re-did the legs from the ground up Needless to say I used up a good amount of the GF9 plastic tubes I picked up. Still trying to work out what to do for the CC arm. Am I going to go with a hand? Chain spear? Hmmm....

Go with a hand with a removable chain spear.... Mr.nids do you have a pin drill

I do indeed have a pin drill! I may do that idea but I'm rethinking the legs I had worked on also.

well you could always sculpt and cast your legs in two pieces then you could use the bone saw to cut out some joints then use the pin drill and hollow a joint get a pieces of wire to join the two...i hope i made sense

You did make sense... Took a read or two

I'll try to get a pic or two of the legs and upper torso thus far. Just post after this so you will know when I put them up


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Ok, Here are the beefed up legs so far...


And


Also here is a shot of the "arms" I've been working on. I need to fill some gaps and trim them a bit. In the end I want this dread to look as intimidation as I feel it should


Let me know what you think!

It would be helpful to see it side-by-side with a normal dread or dread parts so the modifications you've made can be fully appreciated.

tony_nids_10 wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:
Damn, If only I could remember you're OLDEST avatar. When you were still doing nids!

You mean this once?

whalemusic360 wrote:
Why not just make a joint out of plastic tubes. You'd have to glue it together after you got the pose, but it would be cheap and easy really.

I stayed up for a few hours last night to work on my dread. I made the "arms" wider and pretty much completely re-did the legs from the ground up Needless to say I used up a good amount of the GF9 plastic tubes I picked up. Still trying to work out what to do for the CC arm. Am I going to go with a hand? Chain spear? Hmmm....

Yeah! That one

I like the dread so far..But one of those legs is on backwards!

Gitsplitta wrote:It would be helpful to see it side-by-side with a normal dread or dread parts so the modifications you've made can be fully appreciated.

I would but there is one small issue... I have no reg dread legs! These are from an AoBR dread so I wasn't too heartbroken to dive right in to the process. I'll try to hunt some regular ones down though.

Samus_aran115 wrote: Yeah! That one

I like the dread so far..But one of those legs is on backwards!

They arent glued! They are just sitting there for comparison purposes.

Lower leg mods look great so far. Not sure on the torso, but I have faith.

Glad one of us does

Looking good! But IMO most dread conversions to make 'em "proper" end badly and they look too "un-dready"

Best of luck with that.

Man that looks like a linebacker of a dread but with legs like a supermodel....but my only bit o criticism i have its got some T-rex looking arms though it might just be where its not assembled that makes the CC arm look short...

@Darkvoid- The lower legs are bulked out already. The upper legs are still being worked on. There will be wires and tubes abound.

@Vignor- The width of the shoulders on said linebacker are going to get trimmed. Right now they are just for shape. I just always hated how the dreads look like walking refridgerators (sp?) Also i use the term "walking" loosely since they seem like they might waddle like penguins or pregnant women. I may scrap the legs all together and make mr. dread- not to be confused with the judge of the same name- into a tracked unit... Maybe. Thoughts?

The thunderfire cannon treads would be perfectly sized. That'd be expensive though, so I'd try to find another base.

Necron tomb spider for the legs.....this would be cool....Honestly i think it would be.....ill post something on the origin page for review if youll go with that idea...

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Oh and WM360- I am working on some scratch built treads now.

Aight it wont be pretty sketch but ill come up with one fast

I like the crests, the kind of spartan look. It fits the name too.

I was just kidding vig, no worries. Glad you like them loki. I'm still working on the treads for the dread, not set in stone yet but working on them for the idea in general.

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=149

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=128

tell me what ya think...its hard to do anything with a screaming infant in your hands

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/gallery/bullshot03.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/gallery/gallery_actual.html&usg=__vWLlWNz93NE-0DcBQBl1g4vN-MI=&h=394&w=525&sz=45&hl=en&start=6&sig2=hSl8Vdan7PmGBGI4j4HJAg&zoom=1&tbnid=mVH-0KScoERiWM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=132&ei=dkm3TMurJoP-8AaA7dGyCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhuntsman%2Bspider%2Btank%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D653%26tbs%3Disch:10,3&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1024&bih=653

That second one is awesome, a little pricey though.

You can buy the legs individually and its only 57 bucks us cash and just slap a dread torso on the fron instead of the cab and bada bing a huge terrifying monster dreadnought of the myrmidon class

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=25

or for treads

Killdozer! Thats awesome. I really like that idea but I think the legs make it look a little like a chaos dread.

If you're already into plasticard why not create from that. Kanvass1 from youtube makes some really nifty little grot tanks. I'm sure you could scale up the basic principle of the tracks.

I'll check those out Lenny, I'm still up in the air on what to do as a whole but I may just get another AoBR dread to make another fun dread.

AYE Mr.nids and the followers and contributers to the origin thread ill be returning in earnest with sketches soon i promise.. Ive been diddling around and Mr.Nids would you like them posted on here or on the other thread or both...anyone wanna be a marine for the shields or does anyone wanna see the shields space base what do you want illustrated..i feel like a hi-jacker..........and to add to the current Dread development what about a pre-heresy dreadnought it has longs legs and it looks like it could run i mean its shaped like me and i can move at a decent pace even found a tut for you also

http://www.underthecouch.net/workshop/pre-heresy-era-space-marine-dreadnought-conversion/

and delving a bit deeper turns out this model was made by insaniak for alpharius what a small world

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/245189.page

and for more pre heresy dreads

http://davetaylorminiatures.blogspot.com/2010/04/dreadnaught-rylanor-of-emperors.html

Just thought, that for absolutely no other reason except for ease of viewing, that I'd post up all the artwork and images related to this project.

Original Concept

Chapter Master

'Typical' Sergeant

Standard Battle-Brother

Terminator Sergeant

Terminator


Chapter badge/emblem/logo concept

Tony_nids_10 wrote:The bottom one might just be the winner!

Human Auxiliary concept



Dreadnought concept


Battle-Brother Vignoris


Captain(?)Tonynidious


Standard Bearer Samus


Scout Sergeant Bi'Mek


Atrum Inritus in training



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Well damn! That took quite a bit of time.. but it's worth it for this project and all of us involved in it.

CODEX! (Ed- front cover mk1, atleast.. )

i was expecting more of an entire codex instead of just a front cover.
But man that front cover is nice!

Commissar Agro wrote:i was expecting more of an entire codex instead of just a front cover.
But man that front cover is nice!

Well, long story short for various reasons I had about 10 seconds to make that post.. but sorry to disappoint y'all.


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Commissar Agro wrote:But man that front cover is nice!

Oh yeah, thanks by the way! I'm also planning on working on some rules (ie FANDEX) as I've already got one codex under my belt.. watch this space.

Slightly revised front cover.. not a great deal of difference. Oh well. Tell me what y'all think of it.

Also, I can't help but notice that Vignoris based most of his drawings on Red Scorpion models - some of which I will hopefully use to convert some Emperor's Shields or, more likely, Paragons of Faith.

@Void, Vig- You guys are the best. Seriously! Feel free to hijack this thread anytime guys! I work an odd schedule and I cant post as often as I would like.


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Oh and most of my free time is spent working in one of the 100000000 side projects I have going.

tony_nids_10 wrote:@Void, Vig- You guys are the best. Seriously! Feel free to hijack this thread anytime guys! I work an odd schedule and I cant post as often as I would like.

Why thank you.

Also, consider your thread hijacked anyway. I'll start working on some rules hopefully.. tomorrow, methinks. Already got a few idea's.. hehehe... (so much for doing homework today.. groannnnnn ).

C'mon people, this project will be doomed to wtf if I'm the only one left to carry it.. No, not sure I quite understand that either.




EDIT: Off-topic, but Vignor, I'd really enjoy learning to draw like you. Not that that'd be at all easy considering I'm the worlds worst art-class student.. but either way, maybe you could set up a tutorial thread or something?

I can help. Just need some updates on lore. So I can moderate the lore. Like what I'm doing for my chapter.
I love this chapters ideas! keep it coming!
I would love to help!

@Void- As long as I can still post wips ocassionally on my thread I don't mind it jacked

@Ash- The basic idea for this chapter was something I've wanted to do for a long time but it has taken on a life of its own amongst some loyal dakkaites. Without the help of these guys here and the same guys plus a handfull more on the fluff thread I would never be able to find the ambition to keep working on it. Between the neverending supply of ideas and Vig's amazing art I am never at a loss for help. Long story short Ash, feel free to help any way you want.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

tony_nids_10 wrote:@Void, Vig- You guys are the best. Seriously! Feel free to hijack this thread anytime guys! I work an odd schedule and I cant post as often as I would like.

Why thank you.

Also, consider your thread hijacked anyway. I'll start working on some rules hopefully.. tomorrow, methinks. Already got a few idea's.. hehehe... (so much for doing homework today.. groannnnnn ).

C'mon people, this project will be doomed to wtf if I'm the only one left to carry it.. No, not sure I quite understand that either.




EDIT: Off-topic, but Vignor, I'd really enjoy learning to draw like you. Not that that'd be at all easy considering I'm the worlds worst art-class student.. but either way, maybe you could set up a tutorial thread or something?

Id love to help void my only hold back the past months is ive been helping my sister but im around get at me id love to help and also ill try to do a tutorial i just dont know how to one....

and also Mr.nids did you look at the dreads

//off-topic//

Well I'll be damned. I've just figured out how Vig draws his stuff. Now tell me if I'm right here, Vig, but did you print out images of Forgeworld Red Scorpions, trace for the most part and then add your own touches (like the Shields' iconography)?

Might have to try me some of that..

There basically red scorpions yes ive got to use a model but trace no i didn't......cause i cant draw an accurate space marine out the top of my head but i love the cover hehehe
im drawing a primarch and a pre heresy dreads....and i think the MK IV MAXIMUS ARMOUR fits the shields very very very well

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/MK-IV-MAXIMUS-ARMOUR.html

Make sure to check out the updated fluff thread guys!

hey Void&Mr.nids can i just create a huge machine for the shields a piece of equipment thats just for the hell of it i mean im just sittin on this tank...ill just be missing minor detail like las cannons and bolters and i want to call it the emperors throne

vignor wrote:There basically red scorpions yes ive got to use a model but trace no i didn't......cause i cant draw an accurate space marine out the top of my head but i love the cover hehehe
im drawing a primarch and a pre heresy dreads....and i think the MK IV MAXIMUS ARMOUR fits the shields very very very well

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-Accessories/MK-IV-MAXIMUS-ARMOUR.html

I am going to pick some of those up for sure. If for no other reason than the heads. I did check out all of the links on the dreads and I might have a lead on an OOOOLLLDD Dread. Also I have decided that I am going to have at least 3 dreads for this army.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Make sure to check out the updated fluff thread guys!

As I said over there in many more words... WOW!

vignor wrote:hey Void&Mr.nids can i just create a huge machine for the shields a piece of equipment thats just for the hell of it i mean im just sittin on this tank...ill just be missing minor detail like las cannons and bolters and i want to call it the emperors throne

PLEASE DO! Send me some PM's and if you're up for it we can work on it together and bounce some ideas back and forth.

aye aye sir warming up the scanner lets pray that the machine spirit is willing to load


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damn i need new software so im going to roughneck it and take a photot of my concepts instead and up load it

Mr.nids and others should download googlesketch up so i can share my models with em...

Downloading now!

Awesome!

I would really like to post pics of my updates but somehow the wifes camera has mysteriously sprouted legs and walked away... I have managed to get a new "hand" made for one of the dreads and I'm still working on the treads for the other. I hope to have a new camera soon as well as another AoBR dread to cut up and turn into scraps.

Shew sounds like how my scanners cd just floated into oblivion.and i cant wait to see the dread hand...maybe black hand can be a dreadnought and paint one of the fist black

That was my original idea

Awesome great minds do think a like...

I only hope I can make it live up to the "occupant"

THE OMNISIAH!!! Blesses your construct

Well I am waiting for my fiance's new camera should be in sometime in late november... Until then all I can give are some verbal updates. The 1st dreads custom arm is mostly done, complete with new hand! I'm working on the other arm now. The treads are still a WIP and are moving along (slowly) I am still waiting for my second AoBR dread to make its way to me so I can start work on the other dread. I am really trying to make something slightly unique here without going too far over the top. I'm a big fan of conversions that are tasteful.

I feel your camera loss pain. Mine grew legs shortly after my last update. My have to ask santa for a new one.

Put the defib's away folks, the wife got a new camera! Soon there will be pics up of my complete lack of progress

Awesome, when I see pics of other people's lack of progress I don't feel so bad about my chronic procrastination

Not sure entirely how to take that!

lol, just me kidding bud..I can't wait to see some completed Emperor's Shields though.

Tony I rewritting some fiction on the Emperor's Shields army that I am starting to collect. As I have the chapter attached to two other chapters like The Wanderers and the Dusk Guard (bring terminators).
I will try and post it here so Signor and the loreist can give me refinements.

Nice work so far, I will be eagerly watching this thread for updates!

whoot whoot on the camera....we'll ive been absent for a week now but ive got to tell you why...i got kicked out of a punk rock show....reason when vignor and the emperors shields went to preform our two songs..HOLY BOLTER STRIPPED DOWN and GOFF ROCKER..emo er's
started to be emo and tried to rush the platform and i showed them the will of the emperor hahahaha spnt the night in the slammer but all charges were dropped and the emo's were really just redneck goths but hey whats the differences between emo and country music..a hick with a guitar and a messed up teenager with a piano both wailing about killin themselves...im returning next week with the inquisitional ordo emo

I don't even need a coffee now that has just made me day, All hail Vignor and the Ordo

Lennysmash wrote:I don't even need a coffee now that has just made me day, All hail Vignor and the Ordo

We ll that just brightens my las bolt thanks lenny

ohh where ohh where could the updates have gone

I know

Hey guys and gals. Life has thrown me more than a few curve balls in the last month and sadly my health and the well being of my family has suffered. As of right now the Shields are on hold. Sorry :(

Hey, no need too apologise man. Family and self come before toy soldiers, get things sorted and we'll see you when 'tings are irie.

Family always comes first!

I know where you are coming from bud! Sick babies really put the brakes on modelling :(

Health to you and your family Tony, hope it all gets better soon for you mate.

family always first

sorry Mr.Nids and family most definitely comes first before small soldiers...

Hey. Due to a TON of issues waaaay beyond my control, I am not going to do a full army of the shields. I'm going to cut it down to just a squad of vets for now and if I can I may try to finish the Dreads. I'm not sure if I'll even be able to do that much.

Awww

Good luck.

Hey dude, I hear ya. I'd like to get the tedious job of painting my models outta the way, but life gets in the way and has done for a good long while.

So just forget about the little spacemans for awhile and go sort out your problems if possible - they won't mind sharing a cardboard box in the corner of your room/attic for [insert length of time necessary].

In all seriousness, I hope your issues get fixed and things take a turn for the better Tony, cause life hasn't been treating you too good recently. Good luck pal.

I feel your pain!, the squeaking of outraged Skaven haunts my dreams

I second Darkvoid, this is a HOBBY not a job! and you shouldn't feel like you have to be chugging away painting models in your (brief) spare time, good luck bro.

Ok heres the deal. In the last 3 months I have lost my Grandmother, almost lost my 1 year old son, and my closest friend in the world past away. He was the reason I got into 40k in the first place and without him around it really just feels hollow. I don't have it in me anymore to do any of this and I'm sorry. I will be selling off EVERYTHING I own that is even remotely hobby related so please if you are interested let me know so I can send pics or otherwise make arrangements. I really appreciate all of the help with everything from all of you. If anyone is interested in taking over the Emperor's Shields by all means feel free and DO NOT forget about all the amazing people on this thread and the other one located in my signature. these guys are completely invaluable and none of this would have been even remotely possible without their support. Thanks again guys and gals.

-T

I am really sorry. I know that might not mean much, but damn I hope thinsg turn out better.

I have been looking into this thread for a long time. Great work overall, It feels sad that you are selling them all away. I may be able to buy some of your stuff if you want.

Seconded. I hope your boy is doing ok, nearly kills me when my girl is sick.

My Dakka experience won't be the same without you bro.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Thanks guys. If anyone wants anything (like a list) PM me.

Well, Tony my friend, it is unfortunate that all this has happened to you (to say the least).

I, for one, will be continueing this project if I can ever find the time, and I hope that one day you will decide to return and see if our collective lazy a$ses have accomplished anything.


Good luck with life, hope things improve for you.

Oh man, sorry to hear of the turns life has thrown at you. Sorry to see you go Tony, but hope all goes well for you and yours. Have a good life, and who knows, maybe one day you'll pop back in to see how little we've done.

All the best for the future my friend. Dakka forum will be that little bit poorer for your loss sir.

All the best to the family and God bless you.

Dakka, and the community as a whole, is, truly, loosing a person that will be missed. Those that keep positive attitudes about criticism and give positive criticism to others are few between. I will always be open to a Tony_nids comment on any blog I ever do, so if feeling nostalgic or just really bored, swing on by. Good luck, and it is my deepest wishes that things only look up from this point forward in your life. I PM'd you about buying some things, and if there is anything else, war-gaming or otherwise, that I can do to help, please let me know.

Feel like we need a song or fireworks or something.....

Don't go getting too excited but I am back. Also I am toning down the Shields a bit for myself. I think I may go back to the original idea of just a killteam. Not sure though. Hmm...

Glad to hear that you are back.

Hey tony, good to see you again. Take it easy, looking forward to seeing whatever it is you continue with.

Glad you are back my friend

Glad you are giving it a second chance. If you decide you really can't, then know that you have people you can talk to if you change your mind down the road, even if its not 40k related. Scaling down, slowing down, and just taking it easy might be good for the ES and Tony_Nids.

Good to have you back, Tony!

Welcome back Bro! I went the single unit route with my Sabre Legion in the end as well, it's definitely less intimidating then an entire army conversion.

Welcome back Tony.

I'm glad your back man

By the way, this weekend I'll try and remember to post all the unit equivelents from the BA 'dex for this one if you want to do counts-as.

Then I'll have to get around to making another fandex..

Welcome Back Mr.Nids

Believe it or not I have a minor update!! No pics but hey, it's something! I dusted off the box I hid all of my 40k stuff in (believe me, there was some dust) and started the process of rebuilding my workstation. I really do need to come up with something less temporary. I don't think the wife appreciates me leaving little plastic bits and shavings in bed As soon as I manage to get everything set out and ready I will resume work on the Shields. I really hope that people forgive me for the break! You still out there Vig?

Hey, nothing to forgive tony. We're just eager to see some lovely 'nids...err I mean Emperor's Shields, some lovely Emperor's Shields

Glad you can at least look at minis, and even work on them! Anything you need, lemme know, I'd be more then happy to help.

Thanks again guys, I still cant get over all the support for someone that is for the most part a stranger. I might even have to pick up a nid or two for a fun conversion idea but thats a whole other project that I will start and not finish

I hope the Marines (Semper fields) arrived ok. if i ad your house address would of been faster.

Mr.nids how are you and the shields doing.i hope well

Progress has been minimal at best. I had to go through and sell a fair amount of stuff to pay off a few late bills...

Well Tony, I wish you the best as ever, but no RnR is no good.

Ah, look at me telling you how to live when I know nothing of your situation. Ignore me, and look after your family dude.

We all hope things go well for you, and if you ever need a chat or a vent, or hell some hobby advice, we're all here for ya.

Hobby advice on a hobby site? What is this concept

I did keep a few of the more important items to my cause. I'm also going to trade a few specialized units for a bit of tattoo work. Thankfully geeks have day jobs too. Makes me wish we used a barter system more often in real life.

Either way I'm putting a little faith into my dread to kick start things again for me. I'll try and get some pics at some point of the minimal progress.... I swear there will be a real update at some point.

Thanks again for all the support from everyone, it means more than you know.

Glad to hear it. 'It' being any one of the things you just told us; have your pick.

Believe me, Tony, I'll get right on the fandex.. right after I've finished my Crondex.. and my Magpie Marine 'dex.. that I haven't started yet.. err.. I'll get back to you on that one.

I made some progress on my dreads! I finished what will be the base for the new quad legs on Dread Alpha and I am finishing up the "thighs" on Dread Omega. I am currently without a camera at the moment so pictures are a little difficult to come by. If I cant get a replacement soon I will just take some pictures with my phone so at least there will be something to look at Sorry for the shabby update but it's the best I can do at the moment. On a side not I was wondering if anyone had any AoBR marines/terminators/dreads? A good friend sent me a few in the mail a few weeks ago and I have to admit it brightened my day greatly. I had forgotten they were on the way and when I got home and saw a box waiting for me on the table with a magic marker purity seal on it I almost jumped for joy! Wow I get off topic easily... sorry about that Anyway, if you have any of those three items up for trade or sale let me know! I've finally got my financial issues cleared up so I now have some money to work with!

Nice to see you are back. I have some AOBR termies, two of which are converted with new arms, but I should have the old arms, they are painted, but painted black with some orange, so basically just primed haha.

Good to hear things are going well, hopefully we can get this project moving again!

Glad to see your still moving on, obviously I use the word 'see' there to mean read about Also good to hear your finances are a bit better

I've got a few left, but someone already got most of them

Actually, I think I did get some AoBR and BfM monopose marines in a trade, and could certainly give up one or two of the ML duders and Black Reach Sgts in the ranks (only so much you can change them up). I'll see what I can dig ya up.

Only if you promise that you will put another purity seal on the box

Lol, I started that with a box I sent to gitsplitta and it seems to make people smile, so I suppose I can spend the extra 30 seconds to do it again

I don't have any of the AOBR bitz persay but if you search some ebay sellers i thnk they got them for dirk cheap, we're talking 1/3 the price of a standard dred in stores!

Does anyone remembers the original "N.O. Saints" Paint scheme for these guys? If not Good, if so, FORGET IT! I'm looking for suggestion for a new scheme! I figure that will keep my mind occupied while I work on my squads. As usual, please feel free to toss around ideas. I am trying to avoid a scheme involving mostly gold. I was trying to come up with something unique to keep with the theme of the army but I am rather run down

Something that isn't quite yellow or sand and not quite bone either, perhaps. I've always envisioned their home world as a dusty barren landscape of orange sand, with sandstorms whirling everywhere. Giant Sand Worms and Arthropods are everywhere, ensuring that only the strongest survive.


Edit: I'll do a mock scheme or two when I get in.

Oh Void, I really can count on you for insight. Come to think of it I'm pretty sure you have made an appearance on all of my blogs. I appreciate it as usual. I'm on B&CS right now working on a few schemes as we speak.

It would seem Void that you are the only one left.

No, I just cant come up with any good ideas

Sorry bud , me too. My colour scheme hasn't varied much in years so I don't think I am qualified to offer anything

I understand guys. No Worries! I've spent a bit of time in the space marine painter and here are a few options I've come up with. Obviously I'm still looking and open to more thoughts on the subject.

Scheme 1








Scheme 2







Scheme 3







Scheme 4







Scheme 5







As always, let me know what you think.

# 4 looks on the money, #5 looks very close or could be Scythes of the Emperor.

2 seems a bit BA, and 4 BT. I like 3 personally, but think 5 is more in line with what they were.

I think scheme 4 is too close to the Death Spectres to be viable.

I love when no one agrees

It's begining to look like a primer grey army is the way to go

I'd shoot for #1... and a far #3 after that- the other ones look a bit too close to already-formed chapters. And possibly due to 300 influence... I can't really see the Emperor's Shields in anything other than Spartan colors...

I was totally gonna go for the black bits you did.. but you beat me to it .

Will return with a useful post later on.

1# looks the best.

Those concept artwork pieces on some of the previous pages are fantastic.

Scheme #1 is the Marine's Malevolent scheme, Personally I like #3 and #5.

tony_nids_10 wrote:I understand guys. No Worries! I've spent a bit of time in the space marine painter and here are a few options I've come up with. Obviously I'm still looking and open to more thoughts on the subject.

Scheme 1








Scheme 2







Scheme 3







Scheme 4







Scheme 5







As always, let me know what you think.

Could i get some background on your chapter, might help in the color processes.

Miss Dee wrote:# 4 looks on the money, #5 looks very close or could be Scythes of the Emperor.

Or those taurus guys

sphynx wrote:I think scheme 4 is too close to the Death Spectres to be viable.

I agree, hella death spectre

I like 1 and 5.

Ironfront, there are 2 threads for my chapter, either/both have a ton of background.

tony, you should dig out that long PM I sent you ages ago for the OP of the fluff thread and add in all those pictures you missed out! Just right click 'em and copy the image location.

I'd do it.. but I have about 10 pages of PMs or something stupid like that .

Hey, I was going through some of my old books on greece and thought up this. Wonder if you like it.

bam!

@Void- You mean the PM that doesn't work because of the lack of code I don't even think I fixed it on the other thread

Here is the background info though...

Background/fluff

As for the fluff on Atrum Inritus I mentioned earlier, I'm thinking of something like Tzeentch took interest in him, turning its will upon his mortal mind. Though he resisted, refusing with all his might, he could not hope to stand up to the might of Tzeentch. Jedediah Storm, Chief Librarian, hastily erected wards and chanted powerful incantations of purity and righteousness. With this new power, Atrum found within himself the inner-strength to shrug-off the call of the Ruinous Powers. However, there was a small part of him that was curious at the power that could be gained.. curious of what it would be like to serve only himself. Tzeentch, capricous and unknowable, decided to take that part of Atrum's mind, and made it physical. A copy of Atrum, bolstered by dark power to insane levels, who was completely against everything The Original stood for. These two identical yet so different beings, one holy, one not, fought a titanic battle before the entire third company. Though Atrum had much courage, his "twin" had been born with the strength of the warp. A killing blow would merely slow him down; a hit from him felt like an Autocannon. Atrum could not win, and was cast down, his body ravaged and severely damaged. Yet still he fought on, firing with pistol in hand as a last defiant act of faith. But as quickly as it had been born, the copy was whisked away by eldritch powers. Despite that near-fatal conflict, Atrum refused to be interred into a Dreadnought, insisting he was not badly wounded enough. Though it took many months, he eventually returned back to fighting-form. Though he had suffered dearly in the ordeal with his "copy", he came out of it - his faith had been tested to the utmost and he had not been found wanting. Although it pained him to say it, Tzeentch had actually helped him. It had removed all doubt about his faith, about the Emperor. About Mankind's manifest destiny to rule the universe. The very thing that sought to corrupt him had made him uncorruptable.


Company layout idea's
Also, I'm thinking that perhaps the company lay out is like this:

First Company - Veteran company - The Astartans - ~300 Space Marines - Captain Garus
Second Company - Battle company - The Kings of War - ~100 Space Marines - Captain Asherian
Third Company - Battle company - The Incorruptable - ~100 Space Marines Captain Inritus
Fourth Company - Battle company - ??? - ~100 Space Marines - Captain ???
Fifth "
Sixth "
Seventh - armoured company - The Ironhides - Assortment of Heavy armour - Captain ???


Basically, not giving two about the little blue book. One extra large Veteran company - allowing for 6 Elite choices in-game - Battle companies - no effect in-game - Seventh and eighth company - Armoured companies - Allows for 6 Heavy support choices - Nineth and Tenth companies - Scout companies - in-game effect: something to do with Scout Captain Bi'Mek, perhaps? Or maybe two scout squads for every 1 Troop slot.


All that allows for a very elite, very stealthy, or very heavy playstyle. Perhaps, as an army special rule, when making an army list you can choose to either double your number of elites or heavy support slots?

And perhaps, there are no assault squads, as such, but any Tactical squad may replace its standard armament of a boltgun (they shouldn't have pistols! They never did before!) with a CCW and Bolt pistol, and they may also take Jump packs, and if they do then they become Fast Attack.

So potentially we could see a Scout, Tank and Veteran heavy army forming from all this.


@Ironfront- I would probably like it if i could see it


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@Ironfront- I do like it but like most of this project I am leaving it up to the people reading to pick a good one.