You Aint Seen Squat 2.0 (I guess)

Alright...so I have been kind of forced into making my own P&M Blog here on Dakka as apparently my blog isn't good enough for some...you know who you are...

Right Vik? Monkey? *eyes*


So for some reason after playing a game of Warhammer 40K against the Imperial Guard I've decided to collect my own army of them as well. It is not the first time I have toyed with the thought as I did own a Cadian Battleforce (unassembled) but have been looking for that special surge of inspiration. Which I found when I came across this P&M article on Dakka Dakka by ArbitorIan as well as the Squat header on the Mik's Minis blog by Mik.



So with having a load of unassembled Cadians laying about, and after being thoroughly inspired, I placed an order with GW to get myself some plastic dwarfs. I have since learned that converting is easier with the previous boxed set of plastic dwarfs as their heads, arms, torsos and legs are seperate whereas the new set has the entire body and head in two pieces of plastic. In order to make the Lasgun fit it means a lot of repositioning, delicate cutting and filing down bits and pieces and even then it doesn't always align properly which means covering it up.



It has been a while now since I started on the army which is why this post nearly mirrors my first post on my blog but maybe I can get some feedback from the people here. I have moved on beyond my first single dwarf model, my pictures are still crap though. I have acquired quite a collection of stand in models to be used in my Imperial Guard Squats as well as started on two other armies. One of which is also the Imperial Guard, who got re-armed after I discovered eBay selling loose bits. My intention is to model them after the Helghast from KillZone. I also gave in to temptation and started on getting some Terminators to build myself a small Deathwing force belonging to a custom chapter.

More is to follow....as I am sure Vik will prod me if I dont post.
Any and all feedback is appreciated as long as it is constructive.

well i had a quick look at mik´s blog and i found this pic here:



this is something i prod you to make!!! this could be soooo cool as a HQ for your dwarfes^^

i really like your idea and i think you are onto something really cool here... the whole squat issue is something that hasn´t really been solved by GW right enough so the need for squats is still there...and thankfully it seems the right man has deemed himself up to the task! so lets talk business, have you thought about what kind of base you want your minis to give? i recently have made quite collection of various bases made by air dry clay and also i did some tests with plasticcard... i did some bases to look like lava and then ice floe...then mud and also some tech underground...what are your ideas? will you make some quaffing squats as well? i think i have just the thing for you ^^ *rumages around in his bitzbox...*


hope you add new stuff soon, cheers, vik

That vik, always prodding people he is. And he has a monkey working with him you say?

Are you planning on it all being converted, or will you try and get a few GW squats in there too?

You do realize that is not an actual Lego set right? Mik mentions it in the same post I think Also if it was.... I might actually make it...just not as an HQ Choice, it would be in the same boat as my Boring Machine or your Zeppelin.

As for the bases, I figured id go with the basic plan of getting some fine sand, glueing that onto their bases, painting it and maybe adding in some small pebbles.

Rough and rocky, like my table's surface. Besides all my models have already been glued to their bases, too late to pry them off now.


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monkeytroll wrote:That vik, always prodding people he is. And he has a monkey working with him you say?

Are you planning on it all being converted, or will you try and get a few GW squats in there too?

Some GW Squats as well, I do actually own several already. Of course my Primaris Psyker is an original Living Ancestor. He just used to be in a sidecar of a Squat Bike, so I turned it into a wheelchair of sorts after all he is old!



I am not sure what to use the original models as yet, it has been one of the things on my to do list. Like painting...which is way off in the distant future somewhere because I am not a very good painter. Somewhere on my blog is a overview shot which also sneaks in my Squat Bikers. I have around twelve or thirteen, but made a unit of ten. They are to be my roughriders but come with their own set of problems. The original arms do not align with the bikes very good at all and if they do it makes no sense. Holding a handlebar with your thumbs out? Silly buggers.

well that answers my recent question to yer homeblog...grrr....
well we have to make do with what is there^^

i might actually be tempted to make you an anvil of these proportions as a present...only not before returning from holidays that is...

and not from legos... my kids would kill me for that....err...no i tell a lie they would jump to that actually but i would use more mundane stuff like styro and such things....the thing then would look like neils inquisitorial tower...go check it out it is stunning....


as for prodding... my prodding thumbs are feared through at least three galaxies...ask some of my relatives...
and i woudl never work with a monkey...teaming up with is another matter...but i am allergic to work^^




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lol proff X in a garden gnome version^^ cool idea...get him a banner pole and add binoculars and you can use it as your commander...


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something as a bit of a nice starting boost help of some sort^^

if you want some color changes i can do that...later on,...as i need now to get some sleep^^

Not bad, simplistic but appealing. I'll stay tuned for more.

Simplistic sure, how would you go about it then? Like I said suggestions are more than welcome And one can't deny they are Space Dwarfs.

At the moment I'm basing my old Squat models. I'll take some pictures of them later. Seems I have some models more than once though, which is not exactly a big deal.

I do hope that my order of superglue comes in soon as I'm almost out....and with it the superglue activator.


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Right, so this has been a long time coming. To be honest due to my general lack of photographing skills I did not feel too confident that they would turn out alright. But as I am still awaiting a shipment of bits, glue and other assorted stuff I figured I might as well take the plunge and show what original Squat models I have.
So here we go.

Officers

Note the Triplets in the back


More Officers, Vox Caster and Banner Carrier



Squat Sergeants, Power Fists and Bolt Pistols

I think they are Bolt Pistols at least, and of course two of them are obviously related.


Squat Troopers and Sergeant

I do wonder why one of the Squats seems to be wielding an AK-47


Exo Squats

Four are complete, the fifth is just the body, I was going to turn him into an Enginseer. Still might.


Heavy Weapon Teams

Heavy Stubber, Heavy Bolter (Guessing here)



Mole Mortar, Plasma Cannon


So here is hoping that I can continue my tinkering soon as my order of bits come in, at the rate things are going it'll be work on my Deathwing before I'll finish any more Squats. Then again...Deathwing is cool too. I got in my eBay order of a Land Raider, 5 Terminators and a Dreadnought and they look appalling. The Land Raider is even missing some pieces, I am not sure I will be able to restore it properly...at least I got a nice wreck out of it....maybe.

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i specially like the standard bearer...that pose is so cool!

and the plasma canon just screams^^

It's always great to see someone doing something interesting! I'm really digging the conversions!

You know you're going to have to model some counts as roughriders, right? Squat bikers!

Can we see some more pictures of your HW squats? That was looking pretty promising.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,
Rawson

I do actually have a unit of 10 Squat Bikers, I just have some issues with their original arms. They dont align properly or take of the handlebars in ways that no biker would. I am currently at work, I do have some more blurry images on my blog but I can take some more once I get home (light permitting) now that I figured out how to focus my silly phone.

Just to clarify did you mean the actual Squat Heavy Weapons or the converted ones?

Thanks for the comment appreciate any and all readers

Sorry, the converted ones. I don't have the nostalgia of some of the veterans

Ill snap some pics either after work, or else tomorrow morning. I have enough pieces left that I can assemble three more mortar teams as well. Well....as soon as the bits I ordered come in...I think I should send out another e-mail.

Oh Vik! Thanks for the colored version of my single poor Squat in that picture. I am not too fond of the red myself but coloring it that way did make me realize that. So there was a silver lining. I think I'll lean more towards earth tones. So maybe grayish black with some brown to contrast with.

If you want to do a mockup of that Id be well pleased

Always pretty neat to see squat armies being made, looking good

consider it almost done matey^^

Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean simplistic negatively, but it's basicly just a dwarf with a lasgun. If I were to do it, I'd begin with remodelling the armor, or at least add some futuristic gadgets to make them more credible. Sure their armor looks almost exactly like that of vostroyans, but look at the old squats and imagine what they would look like if they were to be released as plastic kits.
But again mate it wasn't meant to be overly critical, it was more complimentory, you found a simple way to make solid squats.

Oh I wasnt offended or anything. I did hear from ArbitorIan that the old Dwarfs actually came in pieces which made converting a lot easier. The older kits had the models with loose torso's, arms, legs and heads. The current plastic kits feature two pieces for the entire body, the only thing that is loose are the arms.
To make the lasgun and cadian arms even fit there is a lot of filing to be done. You are right though they are Dwarfs with Lasguns (and clipped helmets), I do have a series of bits left over but I am hesitant too spend too many of them before I feel like I am...done. I have enough bits coming in to make another 20 Squats, which means I can fill out my squads who miss a trooper or two, make another three heavy weapon teams and end up with another Infantry Squad of 10 models.
I didnt mean to come across as cross either, in fact this last post of yours did get me thinking. Of course several of the Dwarf Bits will go on my tanks and such as well to clearly state their allegiance.

as said done, BUTT...^^ for me i tried to get the earthrn look but i tell you this... as the dwaven mini is way smaller/condensed as the standard IG or for that matter marine... i think this scheme would make them look a bit like a small heap of dogdo...for nurglitsh guard a maybe for imperials a nogo^^

i would really look into more colorful schemes... if not red then a dark blue? or a sombre green maybe?
here are some warzone minis i did for testing recently...:








how do you think these could work for your dwarves?

and for me i think you could try to add something like shoved up goggles to the hemelts with a bit of GS and then some futursitic backpacks and the lkook then would be perfect... it is rather easy to say thy look just like fantasy dwarves with a lasgun attached to them...seeing deathkorps or vostroyans they too look like their fantasy counterparts...and catachans look like mortheim or pirats most of the time... i think it is the same with beauty... it is in the eye of the viewer...and rule one aplies here... your money, your ideas...whatever you deem fit...

SQUATS!!! I love it, I can say that here!


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And Vik has Bauihaus Corporation Minis from Mutant Chronicles!

these bauhaus ones will be one day my choas traitor guard...german based...

@Vik - Ahh but Vik they are not Imperial Guard...they are Squat Guard! A big difference. And you might be right, but I will get a color scheme....I am however staying miles away from anything bright. Unless it is their beards. But one can never go wrong with goggles...is that your Steampunk side coming through again?

@Shaso - Damn Straight! Also welcome to my little bitty slice of Dakka

LOL! finally found it is all! Now me and Vik will likely be hard to get rid of! ;p

goggles are cool... you could do them with some small beads pressed in a GS band around the helmet... very quick way then...and maybe a small antenna to the head to show some headset...


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yep we are mightyly persistent...

That's a decent selection of old minis there, and a dozen bikers too? Very nice!

Like chem warfare agents we are!

Very chatty too ^_^ Which is good, when I get home ill make a Deathwing related post for my Space Marine Chapter to be...unless you are paying attention elsewhere in which case itll be somewhat of a rehash
Less than an hour before I am free to head home....Huzzah!

LOL< well, now I guess we will have to watch for that!

You flatter me, Sir. And flattery gets you everywhere...ask Vik.

lol...my wife never reacts acordingly to my flatery...i think i should move to the other shore... seems i could really pull some strings there...

LOL! IN America, the gals fall for the British accent!

I know....oddly enough I am Dutch but have a British accent when talking the Kings. >.>

achem...in german we use the term the other shore for going gay...so this is not geographically spoken... and i heard that american gals like british accent...me i am more into russian or latino accents in women...that s something to raise my neckhair^^

Ah, LOL! well, plenty of Latino gals here in the states.

tehre is a thing to a gal that can rolll the rrrr in a sexy husky voice....

First off before anything else, this is a work in progress for my Deathwing army. The only thing I knew about them is that I wanted to run a Terminator as Troops army with some Lion themed conversion pieces I had seen over at Scibor. It was Markillius08 who came up with the name so he deserves full credit for that.

So here I give you what I acquired for The Emperor's Pride Chapter so far, this will be one picture heavy post...bear with me.

First off I do have a Terminator Commander who was in the process of being converted....but he might be downgraded to a unit champion.

Here is my Chapter's boss:


Lufgt Heron, Chapter Master of the Astral Claws.
I will most likely exchange the flamer hand for another arm, probably the Terminator Commander with built in Stormbolter.

That is one HQ Choice out of the way, so for my other I went for the usual choice of a Chaplain in Terminator Armor, well seriously what else. Terminator armor is the only way to go in a Deathwing force.



From eBay I ordered enough bits to get my Assault Terminators back up to full strength, I still have a Terminator squad from Assault on Black Reach as well. Just to be on the safe side I ordered in another Terminator Squad from GW as well.
My Assault Terminator Squad will be lead by this guy below.


Tyberos, the Red Wake

I bought one cheap Landraider from eBay but that turned out to be damaged beyond repair as well as missing pieces. So I need to get my hands on another one, in addition to the Land Raider Crusader that is already in the mail. So I can sum up the rest of my army as follows: Regular Terminator Squads, Assault Terminator Squad, Land Raider Crusader and eventually another Land Raider. I also have two Dreadnoughts from Assault on Black Reach so there's that as well.

Now just imagine all those regular Terminators being converted with the following pieces.







I am hoping to equip the Thunderhammer Terminators with spears or halberds to add to the Greek Soldier feel. Sadly I think that in my mind this is going to be awesome...until I need to paint them...
If you managed to scroll this far, thanks for looking. Let me know what you think!

awsome sause was what i thought! also i think you should do this because lots of ppes out there would love to see how terminators actually look like with scibor parts... i dont know if the heads aren´t to small...but i guess you will find out...

actually i think your chapter master should have his flamer hand... the flamer muzzle is one cool bit...

So on page one of my thread here on Dakka Rawson requested some more pictures of my heavy weapon team beyond the grainy one I put up when I started this blog. As I am currently dual blogging at two places, and am too lazy to figure out to properly work Dakka I type this blog first in order to properly upload my images for use in the other post. Mwahah. Don't worry I did not make three different Heavy Weapon Teams at the moment all the weapons (Heavy Bolter, Autocannon and Lascannon) are interchangeable.

OMG the world turned upside down....!!!! *flails hands* er...pics have vanished^^

Yes, Vik. I was working on it...thanks for interjecting so this post serves as an entirely new one >_<

My Blog isn't cooperating, it is not letting me place images as I usually do. So linking to them as I usually do is out of the question at the moment.

And to add to the last few comments about Squat bikers to serve as Rough Riders...

nothing says easy rider as squat bikers...what a wild bunch of short stuffs...

one question tho, the gunner of your autogun? wh is he so away from the autogun? it is clear that he is aiming, so unless he has some kind of Wii remote control for it it would be better to position him right behind the gun...there is a little slit just for the dual pistolgrips at the far end of the HW guns...

and does that first seperate dwarf quaff from a beer mug? lol...i wanted to send you the one i have as a little motivational booster ...cause dwarves will be dwarves^^

Ahh the reason the gunner is so far away from the Heavy Weapon has a simple reason really. The Lascannon is actually longer at the back than the Autocannon or the Heavy Bolter. So if I had assembled it as it should be, I would not be able to swap out all of the heavy weapon options. I might have to tweak it so it looks like he is using a small remote to fire the weapon.

And yes. I have several Squats toting a full beer mug along with them. After all they might be from space, they are still dwarfs damnit!

Blogger still isn't working :(
I got in my ordered Terminator bits from eBay, only ordered the Scibor stuff yesterday though. So that should take a bit of time, the same with the items from Games Workshop. Anyone ever notice how Forgeworld sends out its stuff so much faster than GW does?

I hit another snag, I want to get more Cyclone Missile Launchers in my units than I seem to be able to find online. Does anyone know of a place where I can either get proper Cyclone Missile Launchers or similar items to stick on my Emperor's Pride Terminators? (Also a resource for a Apothecary's Narthecium/Reductor would be appreciated).

didn't realise you had a blog here
will keep up now (or try to)

<3

that sign is overrated. It's all about ^^.
haven't you learnt that yet?

Sorry.

^^

that's more like it ^^

who's so pro now?!

lol... i never knew i would be a darn trendsetter...i can move at least something despite the wastebin^^

so read your blog...remote control, eh?^^ well i expect soem cool colors at this piece then^^

as for the cyclone misery... well have you considered scratchbuilding these? use mortar shells and rocketlanchers form the imperial HW team sprue and make a light case... maybe go for a new look like these:



that might be not too difficult...or you use sharpened sprue pieces as missiles... like sharpen them with a pencil sharpener so to get a nice pointy end then cutting off the very pointy end to get it a bit stubby...then add all the missiles in the case ...mount end of story... doesn´t have to use like an actual cyclone ML to work as one...

Some nice squats made ready for war!

That might be an idea Vik, Ill look into it, of course the issue is that the actual launcher is very small as it fits on top of a Space Marine Terminator and is not held as an actual weapon. But then again a smaller version might either look nicer, or not at all...but I do have those HW Missile Launchers left over...
Im not touching my Mortars as I saved those to actually assemble as a HW Squad for my Squats.

tell you what, my own inspiration got sparked and i will try out if i can built a multi missile lancher myself... will keep you updated on this!

Thanks Vik

I´ve attached a pic beneath of the Cyclone Missile Launcher next to an Imperial Guard Sergeant in order to see a sense of scale. My GW Order just came in, of course it is too late to actually assemble anything before I head out to work....

...and I finally ran out of superglue as well. Damnit.



Edit - It helps if I actually attach the image.

Just thought of your squats when I saw these:


They are mostly naked of course and would need get some armor sculpted, but they could give you a lot of freedom for your conversions. Would be a demanding, yet potentially awesome conversion, idk maybe you like the idea.

pics not showing...but since i have both parts at home i can make comparission on my own... why do you order super glue? it´s common as dirt in the shops here in germ-any^^ i get it in every bigger foodshop and the lowquality stuff you get for under one €...or do you order special stuff? then let me in on those secrets^^

Baiyuan wrote:Just thought of your squats when I saw these:

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They are mostly naked of course and would need get some armor sculpted, but they could give you a lot of freedom for your conversions. Would be a demanding, yet potentially awesome conversion, idk maybe you like the idea.

I have to admit I did actually consider them when I was starting out, they failed for Rank and File Infantry, but what might work for them is to serve as a Penal Legion, just means getting my hands on one handed weapons such as chainswords and laspistols etc. Ill keep them in mind, moreso as the Sprue picture is a great help to see what is in the box.

Thanks!

Cool stuff J3r03n, like the imperial steampunky vide , and fantastic squat bikers

hmm...do you have a nickname?
there's shaso for shasolenzabi,
vik for viktor von domm,
what's a shortened version of jeroen?
jero?
oen?
heironymous bartholomew?

anyway, I'm subbed to your blog, now sub to mine!
modelling & painting-
article discussion: user:shrike
fluff-
article discussion: the sons of Corax

j tends to work for me, Shrike.

And I would if I could figure out how....

Remember im kinda new. Ill do my best though.

mostly writing a post add it to your sub list.... linky:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/355747.page

and


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/334599.page


those dwarves look like old school chaos dwarves...hmmmm... depends of their role in your army... not for mainbody fighters... if you want to do vets, they could work...but i say you have to convert heavyly...

I said so already Penal Legion, means they are the prisoners given a second chance. Scum. Worst of the worst....besides it allows me to funnel back in a vibe of Dwarf Slayers. Make them all red heads and add blue body paint.... Braveheart anyone?

Vik I also added the pic of the Cyclone Launcher back up there.

j3r03n wrote:First off before anything else, this is a work in progress for my Deathwing army. The only thing I knew about them is that I wanted to run a Terminator as Troops army with some Lion themed conversion pieces I had seen over at Scibor. It was Markillius08 who came up with the name so he deserves full credit for that.

So here I give you what I acquired for The Emperor's Pride Chapter so far, this will be one picture heavy post...bear with me.

First off I do have a Terminator Commander who was in the process of being converted....but he might be downgraded to a unit champion.

Here is my Chapter's boss:


Lufgt Heron, Chapter Master of the Astral Claws.
I will most likely exchange the flamer hand for another arm, probably the Terminator Commander with built in Stormbolter.

That is one HQ Choice out of the way, so for my other I went for the usual choice of a Chaplain in Terminator Armor, well seriously what else. Terminator armor is the only way to go in a Deathwing force.



From eBay I ordered enough bits to get my Assault Terminators back up to full strength, I still have a Terminator squad from Assault on Black Reach as well. Just to be on the safe side I ordered in another Terminator Squad from GW as well.
My Assault Terminator Squad will be lead by this guy below.


Tyberos, the Red Wake

I bought one cheap Landraider from eBay but that turned out to be damaged beyond repair as well as missing pieces. So I need to get my hands on another one, in addition to the Land Raider Crusader that is already in the mail. So I can sum up the rest of my army as follows: Regular Terminator Squads, Assault Terminator Squad, Land Raider Crusader and eventually another Land Raider. I also have two Dreadnoughts from Assault on Black Reach so there's that as well.

Now just imagine all those regular Terminators being converted with the following pieces.







I am hoping to equip the Thunderhammer Terminators with spears or halberds to add to the Greek Soldier feel. Sadly I think that in my mind this is going to be awesome...until I need to paint them...
If you managed to scroll this far, thanks for looking. Let me know what you think!

I AM JEALOUS. I love all your commander model choices, and the bits from Scibor I will voug for. Check out my GK blog in a few for pics of some scibor bits I bought.

I'm not sold on the heads, to be honest. In LOVE with all the rest of the bits though. My suggestion is have one of each set of shoulders on your termies, gives them a little more dynamic flair versus just identical pads on each shoulder.
Also, if you have any extra termi bits, lol, let me know cause lord knows I need some haha and I'd be happy to trade!

Also, YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF ON YOUR BLOG, but I'm sure you know this.

Im not sold on all of the heads included either truth be told the heads I like are (top Image from L to R) heads number: 3, 4 (those two I like best), 6, 7, 8. So I ordered more heads than I can use, Ill see how they look on my models.
Which also requires some converting but should be doable.

those heads are the only things that look like the aperntice done them of scibor and not scibor themselves...

All of them, or the ones I list or didn´t list? I am keeping my fingers crossed they´ll look better in person

j3r03n wrote:Im not sold on all of the heads included either truth be told the heads I like are (top Image from L to R) heads number: 3, 4 (those two I like best), 6, 7, 8. So I ordered more heads than I can use, Ill see how they look on my models.
Which also requires some converting but should be doable.

And that's what I forgot to mention. It's the heads that look like they're snarling that throw off the theme. But yeah, those heads will work I believe. But so long as you like them, that's what matters. Not my opinion haha.

Hmm, looks like some epic landraiders are being chopped for potential track units? I whole-heartedly approve of such shenanigans

Another potential source for cyclone-type launchers is aircraft rocket packs.

if wishes were fish... sorry to bust your bubble but they all are too cartoonish for me... this might change if you come up with either a good paint scheme or some cool ideas how to grim darken them...the bodies of the scibor nature are awsome... anyone that uses that gets some extra points on any table just for fielding them!

Monkeytroll wrote:Hmm, looks like some epic landraiders are being chopped for potential track units? I whole-heartedly approve of such shenanigans

Another potential source for cyclone-type launchers is aircraft rocket packs.

Servitors to my Enginseers....I got 17 of the buggers and can only use 10 max. Already in the process of converting 6 of them into Plasma Cannon Armed Servitors.

Viktor von Domm wrote:if wishes were fish... sorry to bust your bubble but they all are too cartoonish for me... this might change if you come up with either a good paint scheme or some cool ideas how to grim darken them...the bodies of the scibor nature are awsome... anyone that uses that gets some extra points on any table just for fielding them!

Yeah but I am not using the bodies *sniff*

well yes, but at least you use them shoulderpads... thats spicing them up a treat...

Yarp. Need to file down some shoulders though most likely, ah well it is all for the greater go....Emperor. Sorry Shrike I didnt mean to sounds like a Tau...dont shoot me!

j3r03n wrote:Yarp. Need to file down some shoulders though most likely, ah well it is all for the greater go....Emperor. Sorry Shrike I didnt mean to sounds like a Tau...dont shoot me!

you could have made it say "for the greater go-d emperor of man"

Dark Angel Termies dont get a Land Raider as a transport option....

Making me sad (Also my Land Raider Crusader, Chaplain and Terminator Squad arrived in ze mail)

stuff the rules an since you made up your own chapter anything goes...what a cool sight to behold...a sqaud of terminators emerging from their landraider...couldn´t be more fitting...if you ask me...

also will post in a minute some mockups for the cyclone ML...

Well I can still get them a Land Raider...only it will cost me a Heavy Support slot as opposed to the regular Codex where it can be picked as a Squad Transport...

Looking forward to it Vik


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Started assembling my Land Raider, and been looking around for a possible logo to use for my Chapter. Easier said then done, especially with my limited painting skills. But I am going to give it a go damnit!

Just....not this weekend as I am totally taking it off to do other stuff. Away from work most of next week though so Ill get some stuff done.

The Bits order I placed almost a month ago still hasn't arrived, making it doubtful I will ever order from that company again. I dont care how you spin it, if the stuff is in stock when the order is placed it does should not take a month before you even ship it. Which it still hasn't according to the site. Bah.

that sounds gakky...which site was that again?

as for the chapter symbol...they are named "emperor´s pride"...any thing else in the direction so that i could assist you with a symbol?

Started assembling the Land Raider, and been looking around for a possible logo to use for my Personal Chapter. Easier said then done, especially with my limited painting skills. But I am going to give it a go damnit!

Just....not this weekend as I am totally taking it off to do other stuff. Away from work most of next week though so Ill get some stuff done.



@Vik - http://bitspudlo.com/ - Based in Poland, ran by two Wargamers who obviously are in no rush. Also...thanks for breaking up my posts

I did come up with a color scheme for the Emperor's Pride which I think will work out alright. Ive been wanting to use the Khaki color for a while now so I figure the scheme will be something like the one depicted below.



Gray base color, Khaki covering and either Gold or Yellow for highlights and special bits.



Those bits that are yet to come in / be sent are the ones containing my Dwarf parts in order for me to create more Squats, so I am more than a bit miffed there does not seem to be any change on that front.

But alright then.... I did make some Servitors for my Enginseer. At the moment I made 6 Servitors armed with Plasma Cannons, I have another 1 with a Barrel on top to serve as a regular servitor. I am scrounging through my bit box in order to outfit the others as well. Of course I am aware that I can only have two Servitors armed with weaponry in a group of five....so I guess I got two spares.



Also reading up on Monkeytroll's Cybork's I noticed one grot that gave me a related idea. Something which should be easily doable with the addition of a few bits from the Imperial Guard etc. So I am using these as a base for any and all of my servitors, most of which have the function to assist the Enginseer in repairs to vehicles and such.

Great use of those epic Landraiders, That Monkeytroll , has enough insperation for us all.

Wall-E landraider servitors FTW

those plasma tracked guns look very cool, care for a scaleshot with a squat?

the scheme for termies looks quite stylish... tho i have to say i can´t quite recognize the khaki... i thought that khaki would be more greenish...well i have to geuss again it seems...golden details sound very good!

here are some pics ißve found that could be altered to fit the lion scheme of the marines chapter:

THUNDERCATS! HOOOOOO!


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...Also thanks for that logo, thats one of the favourites I got so far. Ill take a scale shot as soon as I get home from work (and before im off to be an even bigger geek as I go LARPing).

Or perhaps:

How is a Judge helm related to Lions?

It's a Brit-Cit Judge, big stylised lion on the front there? A quick search didn't get me a good pic of the shoulder pad, so....

I am glad you told me it was supposed to be a lion.... Because I totally didn't see it ^^

Yeah, I guess it's not the best, I already knew what it was so...

I'll try and find a shoulder pad, they were better iirc

Viktor von Domm wrote:
the scheme for termies looks quite stylish... tho i have to say i can´t quite recognize the khaki... i thought that khaki would be more greenish...well i have to geuss again it seems...golden details sound very good!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaki_(color)

"Most notably, khaki was used by the British Army in India beginning in 1848."

Vik....you Disappoint me, Sir.


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...and reading on, I find the greenish reference mentioned as well....Sowwy!

Pfft, slightly better image of a pad.



Not impressed that an image search for Brit-Cit Judge gives me pages of Simon Cowell/Cheryl Cole pics

Heh. And with that shoulderpad I am reminded of the ones I ordered from Scibor

Viktor von Domm wrote:those plasma tracked guns look very cool, care for a scaleshot with a squat?

Your wish...

...Is my Command (as soon as I get the pic the right side up...Doh!)

j3r03n wrote:
I did come up with a color scheme for the Emperor's Pride which I think will work out alright. Ive been wanting to use the Khaki color for a while now so I figure the scheme will be something like the one depicted below.



Gray base color, Khaki covering and either Gold or Yellow for highlights and special bits.

I REALLY LIKE THIS PAINT SCHEME!!! I think it REALLY fits your theme well. And if you add fur, say cloaks or around the neck or joints or somehting somewhere, I'd do it in the dark brown that is typical of a lions mane.

EXCELLENT SIR, JUST EXCELLENT.

second the fur suggestion...this you have to do!!! scale looks very good, actually but i would call it differnetly than a servitor... from my point of view it looks more like:



also while looking for the correct image i found this here:



cool huh?

about your symbol...if you want help with that i am game to make some real icons... the ones i searched and presented here were selected for an easy paintjob... a symbol after all should be also able to be done on a shoulderpad and thus as simple as it can be...

at monkey...didn´t know there were brit judges as well...i only ever before the movie heard of judge dredd by a tv magazine about the beginnings of comicdom...and a feature about heavy metal or rather metal hurlant showed some pics of the street judge and i got hooked up... this will be of course a centre of inspiration once i get to make the army for my son...he gets an arbites crew^^, some minis are already there )


oh and i uploaded the promised scaleshot for my scratchbuilt attempts for some cyclone ML...



hope they help...

j3r03n wrote:THUNDERCATS! HOOOOOO!...Also thanks for that logo, thats one of the favourites I got so far. Ill take a scale shot as soon as I get home from work (and before im off to be an even bigger geek as I go LARPing).

aw, I was gonna say that...
though it is a cool symbol...

Vik, those images are awesome, although a thunderfire cannon is a bit too much I think (Moreso as I dont have that as an option). I do like the second one but its too big (bigger even than what I use now).

The Rocketlauncher looks awesome though, I am well impressed.

The logo doesnt go on any shoulderpads as I have leonine ones coming in for each shoulder. Only place it might have to go is banners and tanks.

Not that it matters, but your mole mortar is backwards. It's supposed to shoot into the ground, just turn it around.

lol.... thats why squats are nearly extinct... all mortar squads sqauts (nice one there eh?) smashed their own in friendly fire...lol

at jeroen, so then go full monty and we can make a col one for to go on all banners...with variations of course...does anyone know a free ware vector orientated graphic programm? then i could make some nice ones fer ye^^

Hah! Another thing learned, thanks Andrew!

Vik...Im not sure what you are asking me....did you just ask me to get naked so we could get an image for the banners or something.... cuz that is sick and wrong!

Ill look into the logo eventually not really a big rush....at all..

hadn´t planned you yet into my greater inter --course try outs...hmmm... well i was mostly refering to offering help in the logo matter... but if your not in a hurry there might be other sorts of inspiration in the time being, one never knows... for instance scibor might make some seperate banner... now there is a thought...

Right, so I painted one of the models that came from the cheap eBay combo acquisition of a Landraider, a Dreadnought and 5 Terminators. I figured it was time to try out the paint scheme, or as close as I could get with the paints I have in my possession at the moment.

Painting is basic, as I haven´t done so in a while and I never was very skilled (as I keep saying so I will drop that now).


Also the lighting might be off due to it being cloudy out and me lacking proper lighting for picture purposes. Listing all this makes me wonder why I even bothered to take the pictures and put them up in the first place. I have to say though that having it sitting here I think it looks pretty good. Not as awesome as some but still I am quite happy with it.

Do note that because this is one of the test models (and was already painted when I got it....and with a terrible paintjob) I had to paint over the existing paint as well as not having the Scibor pieces I ordered. So the actual army models will have a nicer base as well as some additional conversion pieces attached. And no, I didn´t paint the stormbolter yet as I am not sure what color to make it yet.

So far so good right?

nothing to fear mate as you have a clean paintjob as it seems... while i am not able to say what colors you currently used i am guessing...looks like the aforementioned gold for details and a brwon basecoat? if so and you stay that claen then there is nothing to feel humble about... sometimes i have really horrible blotty paintjobs myself and thus i rely on heavy wash afterwards...mostly to cover up why i indeed have yet again not left out that rectangular space you have on the neck of yon termy...also the legs with its many details look very promising!

as for lighting issues... try taking fotos on the window sill, it isn´t the amount of light you get there but the kind of light you get... artificial light from a bulb and other sources has a warm feel for it...thus giving a warmer version to the colors on your minis... our eyes don´t see it that way tho... the cam does, unfortunatly...so when you get the much colder light from the sun and the window you get the colors we all are used too...and the cam takes the more bluecolored /cooler colors up...thus instantly giving you a heck of a better pioc with not much fuz...and natural light is damn cheap too^^

keep up with that cool work of yers, i am off to the teeth botherer, but later on i would like to see some better pics^^

cheers, vik

Colours used are a basecoat of Uniform Grey by the Army Painter. Further colors used are a simple layer of Shining Gold and Commando Khaki, followed by a wash of Devlan Mud.

As it was a test model I went for very simple and didnt bother with any drybrushing, highlighting or any of that fancy stuff. Made it straight and simple.

I thought you were done with the teeth monger?

nah.... on friday for now before the great treck there will be a last visit to him...so this is the commando khaki you were talking about...more brownish ideed... i think it will need some layers before you get the aimed color effect...or you slab a dehneb stone on beforehand and after that go full last layer khaki again... well i suppose not every termy will get their scibor shoulderpads anyway(?) so not only a tester but a fully useable mini...

btw...i insist you go and check my next update...there was a santa at my letterbox...

Actually.....Yes. All the Terminators will get a Scibor Shoulderpad (or two). I do actually have Dheneb Stone as well, so I might just do that, then again I kind of like the look it has now not too clean, but that is most likely the Devlan Mud.


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Aaaand...

My items from Scibor arrived as well, they are Dead Sexy. Although the heads are very attached to their casting sprue and the shields are pretty thin so I need to continue with care not to break them. The resin bases look great, they do make me wonder however....are resin bases tough enough on their own to use as a base? Or should I stick the standard round plastic base underneath for added support? I am leaning to err on the side of caution and add the plastic base although this makes them rather tall.

naw wouldn´t do that... the resin iirc is rather thick with bases and would be good support as is...from what i´ve heard resin is quite brittle and you should always use a fresh knife for cutting the resin parts of the sprues... also many producers warn that resin is not healthy to work with in a colsed room... filing should be done outside as the little particles can be dangerous for your health...and...congrats for the scibor pieces...seems the guild of postmen have their be nice to gamers day today^^

and if you still want to follow your designed scheme then i would proceed as i stated...your scheme is much brighter than your actual mini now... and i think this scheme is worth the extra work...

How does the grey bit look though? As that is a part I did absolutely nothing about, that is just basecoat with a wash. Well I could always do another layer on top of the wash in certain areas.

oh i took the stormbolter as pure plastic for now... didn´t think of it as already painted... one thing: drill out all barrels... you will see it carries the look a mile further! if this might cause you some peril, then take a needle, heat it up under a candle and push it inside the bolter where the barrel holes should be...then you can drill some holes in it because now you have a better base to start drilling from... i personally own some micro drills to go for my handheld boringmachine, but for delicate work i use a range of very small screwdrivers i missuse as drills...you know the ones you normally use for screwing glasses and micro systems on your pc...they are shar enough to drill steady holes into the soft plastic...works for me most of the times...

Ah the grey I was referring too I meant the bits on the model itself, but yes the weapon is undeed unpainted. Also this model wont work for my army as it will not allow a headswap (None of the AoBR Termies do) but I have additional fronts to use in order to complete them...all leftover from previous conversions and such work on my Death Guard.

well then i am not currently able to really say something concerning colors as the light forbids it... you have to understand that you see your mini with different eyes, you already know how it looks, the rest of us only sees the pic...your eyes know what they should see and adapt to your "reality", my of course do that to mine...and mine is defined by your pic... which leaves me to guesswork^^

by the way if you are there, then it would be nice to give my thread a bump as i am about to update^^

Andrew1975 wrote:

Not that it matters, but your mole mortar is backwards. It's supposed to shoot into the ground, just turn it around.

Nice sqauts matey

I mentioned before that I acquired a lot from eBay rather cheaply containing a Land Raider. I have decided I am going to try and save it from being a bum purchase. It´s paintjob is horrible, pieces are missing and it has been assembled incorrectly.

Joy.

So at the moment I am taking it apart carefully and trying to salvage what I can. I ordered in two new Lasgun Sponsons, a new top cover and a new bottom plate. The bottom plate will be cut up in order to close the front ramp which was missing.

The Heavy Bolter at the front needed replacing as well but luckily I had a spare. When working on my Death Guard I ordered a Nurgle Plague Hulk kit from Forge World. This comes with a complete Defiler kit included, I used the gun from that on my Chaos Landraider leaving me a spare.

Lucky Me!





(I did paint up another model of the Pride this time with the Scibor parts and using a slightly diffirent color scheme. Dheneb Stone instead of Commando Khaki).

looking cool, somehow the act of salvaging a badly done tank has a bit from defusing a bomb...you have to tread very careful and every slight of hand can either cause betterment or worse... quite the thrill^^ i salvaged a rhino once and i am still postponing my predetaor to me painted anew which i rebuilt... the rhino was even choas standard rhino and can now pass for loyalists...

looking forward to your new test model done with new paining strategy!

I have never owned a landraider , always wanted one as a kid, now i will probably have to scratch buils a true scale one to be happy.

She's a doer-uppa, but looks like she will make a good recovery given time

neil there are quite some good plans out there for scratch building a LR out there...i do own two sets myself and i could suply a link with a helping how to too...infact i started once with building one but never came across finishing it... it is still burried in a cardboard box as so many other projects of mine^^

I started on a Leman Russ from the old Cadian Battleforce....and then it got shelved. Of course when I found it again I had several sprues but not the actual chassis with the treads on it.....a pain in the ass.

On a somewhat related note...

I just had to assemble one and use my only Cyclone Missile Launcher. I figure this will be my ´Indestructable´ unit, five terminators with Thunderhammers and Stormshields, and as a Heavy Weapon the Cyclone Missile Launcher (because it leaves the hands free). I did change the base color from Commando Khaki to Dheneb Stone which is indeed lighter, this current image does not yet have a wash of Devlan Mud over it (the base does). I have since added it and I do think it looks awesome, only issue I do have is that both the base and the model are similarly colored but that is just a minor thing. I would have added a pic of the washed model as well but the lighting had changed else there could have been a before and after.

And I know. I still cant paint...shush.

argh...


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a question springs to my mind...do you prime your models? looks as if not...hmm not sure if this is a good sign... the painting is very clean and looks very good! i like the base and i have had similar problems with base and mini colorschemes...i think yours is chosen for a light imitation of the planet they live and fight on... so it is quite understanding that both look somehow similar... you could however add a drybrush layer to the base of white to add some highlights you wont do to the mini itself.... the base looks a bit like marble stone so if you make not a drybrush on all positions then you instantly get a marble effect of sorts...and then some light devlan mud and badab black and both mini and base look somehow tied in but suitable different... does that work for you?

by the way. shoulder pad and shiled look way cool, not sold on the head but thats just a taste thing...it looks a bit to knobbly for me...

The gray actually is the Prime color. Uniform Grey by the Army Painter. But I agree it could be better if I actually had another color so I could cover it up somewhat if I make mistakes elsewhere.

will the grey stay in your aimed for paintscheme? i think not?
when you aply washes you could alternate between denehb stone done with devaln mud and with badab black... thus creating two different tones of the same color...thus by using tow times the same color nevertheless having a high detailed mini? would that work?

The gray always has been in my aimed paint scheme, but I could wash it diffirently than the Dheneb Stone...what is really sad is that the only wash I have that would come close is Necron Abyss, I dont have any Badab Black at the moment, I do still have a jar of Black Ink.

black ink sounds interresting...i have seen someone in the web to paint only with inks...he used regular pen ink...lots of different colors and this made some really nice minis...but i lost the link...

well i have to go off for now, but later on i will be back...!

Ahh not ink like that, this is GW Black Ink, back before it became washes. See you latas Vik, and be good ;P

old GW ink? cool, how did you murder for that? i know my crimes for getting my inks...and i treasure the ones i have...got the flesh wash ink, the orc green ink and unfortunatly i often use the former and the later i have two bottles of but seldom use it...such a pity...

Yep, down to the last of my yellow and red inks, being very careful with how often I use them as I haven't found good replacements for those yet.

the brownish wash is my favorite wash it does wonders for all my armies so far...i can create my brass effects and then i can get that sany/leathery feel to my earthangels armor...if this one day will be depleted i will be a sad panda indeed...

Viktor von Domm wrote:old GW ink? cool, how did you murder for that? i know my crimes for getting my inks...and i treasure the ones i have...got the flesh wash ink, the orc green ink and unfortunatly i often use the former and the later i have two bottles of but seldom use it...such a pity...

I didnt murder anyone, I bought it when I started up again, too bad it isn´t Badab Black though

as i dont know how this ink flows and reacts to different paints i can´t be of help there... when all is said and done badab black is not my favorite wash...by far... it just sometimes gets a job done.. is all...

by the way... i am ready for an update mate...

Whatchoo mean update? I also figured out I got a bottle of Charadon Granite....so far Devlan Mud wash is amazing.

yep devaln mud is sure a cure for most needs...works great on earthen tones of course but also brings up red a treat and metals too...

and a scotsman update of three new recruits...

Sometimes life gives you lemons....



....and then you get to look for a new job.

no really? ohoh... as a feloow unemployed...the main thing that sucks when something like that happens is the lack of money...are you secure in the netherlands? is there such a thing as unemployment help/ social wellfare?

me, i get nothing, cause my wife just earns that tad too much money that seperates us from the poor and thus i am totally out of any system...if i wasn´t married i wouldn´t have been able to go to the dentist...

Yeah there is welfare and such, I just got told today I won't be getting a contract, can stay on for another month or two and then its back to job hunting. Welfare should spot me enough to live on, of course it does mean that my army building will be scaled waaaaaaay back.

Ill keep you posted.

crap... i hope that you will get an even better job now...

*sending a wave of good karma*

Just a minor update (not even any pictures!).

At the moment my paints are starting to come in slowly, figured I give the Army Painter a go to see how I will end up. Am awaiting the last few bits for the Emperor's Pride. At this point I am not even sure how many Terminators I will be able to assemble, I figure I will focus on building an Army List and assemble as needed. I have been reading up on tactics and such, of course the rumors of a new edition for 40K is somewhat unsettling (moreso seeing I only now ordered in Codex: Dark Angels).

Any suggestions on loadout are much appreciated. I do know I will go for a 'Unkillable' Unit of 5 Terminators with Thunderhammers and Stormshield with one of them toting around a Cyclone Missile Launcher. I do have an Assault Cannon or three laying about as well as some Heavy Flamers. Of course if I can swing it I might just make 5 Lightning Clawed Terminators, and 5 Regular ones rounding it off with an Apothecary and Standard Bearer (Note to Self: Need a Logo).

A month and two e-mails further Bitspudlo finally shipped my ordered items, so as soon as they come in I can resume my Squat goodness as well. I did found even more possible Ogryn models, am expecting Avatar of War Dwarf Beserkers, and some Warmachine models. These will most definately be my last acquisition for a while due to some less than stellar news on the job front.

I'll not bore you with too much detail, but suffice to say I might get more time to work on my hobby than even I could wish for.

Oh alright then, one Picture:


Imperial Guard Veterans with Carapace Armour

That's tough on the job front mate. Hope you get sorted quickly.

Can't help you with the loadout I'm afraid as I haven't played in a Long Time.

Those are Trenchers aren't they? Always thought they'd make some nice guard, good choice.

Ah, wow, unemployed is never fun, (been that way for about 2yrs now, almost 3yrs. ) Dwarven shield-gunners, makes for some fine Squat heavy infantry/Grenadiers! nothing like a tasty veterans squad, That and they get to have a nice 3 "special" weapons.I like triple meltas, or the double flamer with heavy flamer, or triple plasma, and or triple Grenade launchers....my most generalized load our is the old Bauhaus Hussars kitted as Grenadiers with melta+Heavy flamer+G.L.

The official name for them is Hammerfall High Shield Gun Corps, and seeing they are supposedly a race of Dwarfs from the Warmachine I am keeping my fingers crossed their scale is compareable.

Personally with Squats supposedly being hi-tech compared to the Imperium, I figured (like ArbitorIan) that I could just stick as many Plasma Guns in the army as possible.

Of course knowing my Dice luck that means I will get a lot of melted Squats...ah well!

And thanks guys, its going to be a pain in the ass. At the moment I am contemplating wether or not I should snag as many overtime hours as I can. I really dont want to but I could use the money...

May as well get the extra cash to help hold you over!

Yeah, it's a pain but probably the sensible thing to do.

Hmm, sensible advice on dakka? Somethings awry.

On a lighter note:
- My bits order from Bitspudlo came in (the magnets were suspiciously absent though).
- My five Grizzly Exosuits from the Starship Troopers came in as well and they are awesome... And now no longer sold by Mongoose....so if anyone can find a place where I can get some more....yes please.

With my current bits restocked I can work on finishing off my Squat Veterans, add the Special Weapon Troopers to my Infantry Squads, make three more Heavy Weapon Mortam Teams, and last but not least another Infantry Squad of ten Squats.

And of course the rest is on the way and then I have to start on the really scary bit.... Painting.

squats sqauts and more sqauts , sounds too good to be true :-) have you heard of the other sqaut race from battle fleet gothic the demigurg?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurg_%28Warhammer_40,000%29

sensible advice from a monkey ?

you could try ebay for the starship troopers , i have seen several bits over the last few months , will check my bookmarks , i know i saved some somewhere?

And hope the overetime stays for a s long as you want it to mate

all looks great by the way ..

Hey hey,

I triede eBay, no Grizzly Exosuits though.

So there will be a BIG update tomorrow about what I've been up too. All my Infantry Squats are completed, an image of my possible Ogryns....and I have actually painted my first Squat to see how the colour looks when all done (it's drying at the moment).

All my orders save one have arrived, only thing I miss are the few bits needed to rebuild the salvage Land Raider (well and my magnets).

the update will go on my blog tonight as I can still reach that at work. They got wise and blocked Dakka from me...Bah!

Due to my items arriving I continued work on my regular and veteran guardsmen. These models were what I started out with and were always meant to be the core of my Imperial Guard army. Now finally all are assembled so no more empty bases on my table as reminders where models still need to be added.
Each and every Squad has its own Vox Caster as well as a Special Weapon trooper carrying a Plasma gun. My reasoning behind having a Vox Caster is that I might not need them but if I do there is no need to scrounge for bits when that time arrives, the Plasma gun is based around the Squats being generally more technologically advanced than their human counterparts (with my luck this means my Squats melt a lot!).


Platoon Command Squad; two Plasma Guns, Vox and a Banner.


Infantry Squad 1; Heavy Weapon Team, Vox, Plasma Gun


Infantry Squad 2; Heavy Weapon Team, Vox, Plasma Gun


Infantry Squad 3; Heavy Weapon Team, Vox, Plasma Gun


Heavy Weapon Squad; Mortar Teams

I actually messed up during assembly and ended up with one regular Squat trooper less than I needed so I demoted the model originally converted as the Platoon Command Officer to the unit Sergeant for Infantry Squad 3 (behind him if you look carefully you can see a model I was going to make the unit sergeant at first). I do realize that the names of the Squads are not very imaginative and they will most likely get proper names in time.


Veteran Squad; Vox, three Plasma guns

All the models in my Veteran Squad are wearing capes which I might try to paint up with a camouflage team so they can serve properly as Camo Cloaks. At the moment this unit is the only one I am sure of that I want to run as Veterans. I do have twelve B'dass models as well but I am still not sure as to what their purpose is going to be, at the moment it is either Veterans or regular Infantry. Something similar about the Warmachine models, though they are definately Veterans and possibly Stormtroopers.


Hammerfall High Shield Gun Corpse with a regular Squat for size Reference

I did assemble my unit of Hammerfall High Shield Gun Corpse, though I am leaving off their shields until after I get them painted up, attaching the shield now will make it a lot harder to paint it properly. Also the Squat in the image above belongs to Infantry Squad 1, which is why there are only nine models in the unit as I forgot to put it back for the group picture (Oops).


Iron Hand Straken, and two spare Plasma Gunners

With the arrival of my bits I also finished my version of Iron Hand Straken and I equipped two Squats with my last metal plasma guns in order to potentially field a Command Squad with all plasma weapons equipped.


Possible Ogryns, with an actual Ogryn for scale

So I came across the model on the left on Tabletop Fix (damn you Falk!) and just loved the Bioshock vibe the model has. It is called a Hardsuit and is available from Recreational Conflict. I do like the model but I still need to toy around with it's posture and the arms and legs seem to be a bit too thin for my liking. The model on the right is a Grizzly Exosuit from the Starship Troopers range, which I envision as actually being operated from a Squat seated inside the bulk of the machine. Problem with the Grizzly is that I would love to get my hands on some more models but they are now Out of Production and Out of Stock at Mongoose (where I purchased the five that I own now). So if anyone can point me to finding some, id be appreciative.





In my eyes both are viable options, so if anyone out there has an opinion feel free to share and enlighten me.

I did paint up my first Squat model as a test to see if my color scheme works alright as well as to test some of the Army Painter stuff I got in. I went with a brown and gray color scheme, I figured Earth and Rock tones would work for them, I did the metals in Dwarf Bronze as opposed to the usual Boltgun Metal. At the time of writing the model is still drying from paint and me 'splashing on' the Quick Shade - Dark Tone, so once it has dried properly I'll dose it with anti gloss and take a picture.

So far so good.

Looking nice! Can't wait to see these guys get painted up.

As I am not too sure on how the images will look once uploaded to the interwebs, Ill just run through the colors used. What I used are the following:

- Color Primer Leather Brown (Army Painter).
- Charadon Granite (GW Foundation)
- Dheneb Stone (GW Foundation)
- Elf Flesh (GW)
- Chaos Black (GW)
- Dwarf Bronze (GW)
- Quick Shade - Dark Tone (Army Painter)
- Anti-Shine Matt Varnish (Army Painter)

I started out with the usual basecoat, I picked brown because I wanted to stick to earth tones. Earth tones relate to their miner and industrial side as well as relating back to fantasy.

This was followed by picking out the seperate colors, making sure to add a dark gray almost black to offset the mostly brown of the uniform. The haircolor was made greyish for the simple reason that I do not have too many colors that would work as hair. Lasgun was made black and originally I was going to go with the traditional boltgun metal but partly due to Viktor von Domm from Dakka I decided to give Dwarf Bronze a go to get a more Steam Punkish feel.





(And yes I totally had to wait for someone to post to avoid the Auto-thingamajiggy)

Nice

The Straken dude looks very cool.

Think with some bulked up limbs the Hardsuits will fit in with the Grizzlys, mix 'em up

And like the colour scheme you've gone for, suits them nicely.

Might want to do something with the mortar loaders, the out-stretched arms really highlight the difference between arm and body, maybe chop them, or swap them for differently posed arms?

j3r03n wrote:I started on a Leman Russ from the old Cadian Battleforce....and then it got shelved. Of course when I found it again I had several sprues but not the actual chassis with the treads on it.....a pain in the ass.

On a somewhat related note...

I just had to assemble one and use my only Cyclone Missile Launcher. I figure this will be my ´Indestructable´ unit, five terminators with Thunderhammers and Stormshields, and as a Heavy Weapon the Cyclone Missile Launcher (because it leaves the hands free). I did change the base color from Commando Khaki to Dheneb Stone which is indeed lighter, this current image does not yet have a wash of Devlan Mud over it (the base does). I have since added it and I do think it looks awesome, only issue I do have is that both the base and the model are similarly colored but that is just a minor thing. I would have added a pic of the washed model as well but the lighting had changed else there could have been a before and after.

And I know. I still cant paint...shush.

I like the look. The grey looks a tad too dark for me, as does the gold. Seems to me that the 'Emporer's Pride' would be more regal. Dare I say, more of the ultrasmurfs hoidy toidy tideness if you will.

Looks good though. LOVE the shoulders, and the Cyclone looks great!

LOVE THE 2nd CYCLONE for your DA. Very swank!

I'm liking the dwarves, just for consideration as well the guys over at Avatars of War make a nicely priced
Dwarven boxset with some really dynamic poses you may want to take a look at as well.



They come in a box of 17 roughly 2 dollars a mini and are multi pose and well detailed.

Monkeytroll wrote:Nice

The Straken dude looks very cool.

Think with some bulked up limbs the Hardsuits will fit in with the Grizzlys, mix 'em up

And like the colour scheme you've gone for, suits them nicely.

Might want to do something with the mortar loaders, the out-stretched arms really highlight the difference between arm and body, maybe chop them, or swap them for differently posed arms?

I will actually try to fit the drill onto the Grizzly's, Inso pointed me towards similar models as the Grizzly that with some work will look the part as well.

I am quite happy with how he turned out color wise, but I may have to take a look at those arms you mentioned

Markillius08 wrote:I like the look. The grey looks a tad too dark for me, as does the gold. Seems to me that the 'Emporer's Pride' would be more regal. Dare I say, more of the ultrasmurfs hoidy toidy tideness if you will.

Looks good though. LOVE the shoulders, and the Cyclone looks great!

LOVE THE 2nd CYCLONE for your DA. Very swank!

See I personally thought that the basic gray as used on the test model was a bit too light in contrast to the rest of the armor....and yeah not so much for the hoidy toidy tideness myself ^_^ more in line with a mix between Space Wolf feroicity and being Regal and Noble.

Santobell wrote:I'm liking the dwarves, just for consideration as well the guys over at Avatars of War make a nicely priced
Dwarven boxset with some really dynamic poses you may want to take a look at as well.



They come in a box of 17 roughly 2 dollars a mini and are multi pose and well detailed.

Two boxes have been ordered and I am still awaiting their arrival
I intend to use them as my Penal Legions, go with the traditional Slayer look, perhaps try my hand at some blue warpaint as well.


Thanks all appreciate the feedback, helps keep me inspired!

Ah, the painted stuff looked good, maybe a flash function to light it up more, but the subdued image made the colors work!

Nice different dwarves. Err, squats!

Really cool idea! I'm just a little concerned about the arm sizes. It's most evident in this picture; they're almost as long as the squats are tall!

Yarp! That is a valid point and I will actually look into it once I get closer to them workwise. At the moment I am slowly painting up my core Squats and figuring out how to use the damn spray can....one of my Sergeants looks like he's covered in mud...Oops.

I also ordered in some more paint as I was sorely lacking in colors I could use for the soldiers' beards. Almost got my first unit of 10 ready to get bearded and then coated up properly.

At the same time I have also started on the next 10 troopers as well as assembly on my Deathwing Army.

....and started to look for a job too :(

j3r03n wrote:Yarp! That is a valid point and I will actually look into it once I get closer to them workwise.

well they're straight arms- how about just cutting out the elbow/wrist?

Ill probably end up cutting off the hand, and then slice a part of the arm, then reattach the hand and presto!

Lovely models mate. look foward to seeing your take on the avatars of war miniatures . they look really nice. oh .. and the ogryns are perfect

So besides painting I have been doing a whole lot of nothing really. I am still waiting for my Dwarf Beserkers to get here from Avatar of War, as well as my spare parts for my broken down Landraider. I did put in an order for several Holocaust Judges (thanks Inso) who I will assemble with parts from the Grizzly Exosuits (mix and match) in order to build my Ogryns. All of the models will be assembled with the drill part from my Hardsuit model in order to give it a more mining related appearance.



The only thing I have been tinkering with a little bit has been one of the Servitors to belong to my Enginseer. Based off of Wall-E somewhat this is what I ended up with.





The model actually ended up being taller than the Enginseer himself and is about as tall as an Imperial Guardsman even without this model being based. The figure ended up being too big for me to use binoculars as its head so I used a targetting system from my broken down Landraider.

Interesting stuff, consider me subscribed, cant wait to see how this project turns out

well i hope there is still some good news on the job front too....the good news of your hobbywork looks really tasty to me...

your first painted dwarf looks like you have nothing to fear from the paintgods...the flesh and the metals look very good to me and i demand a better look of said dwarf if possible...

the grizzly suit is THE thing for your army... sadly i for now have nothing to help you with... but will keep my eyes open for any opertunities...

now that i am back in action again here at dakka i hope to see more often updates or responses^^


vik

Still doing the old, with less and less enthusiasm every day. And yes I hope the metals look good, it is your steampunkishness creeping in that I went with Dwarf Bronze over boltgun metal. Ill make a reason how the metal on their home planet is a different color or has something added in their refining to give it that color or something similar.

I am actually about to put the finishing touches on my first squad (painting wise, not basing)

hmmmm sounds delicious.... hope to see some pics of proof soon^^
well with your current perspective i totally understand your point of view...how are the general prospects of new employments in your country anyway? from what i´ve heard there is little known about unemployment or the recession in the netherlands... i expect the same misery there too as in the rest of the world, it just happen to be not much bad news about the dutch in our media...mostly only other grave news about some killing or other what i had heard once...


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oh by the way, wall e looks really cute.... would be nice to see a test model at least primed and washed to see how all the different parts look together... one suggestion tho....maybe you could saw some fingers into the hands with just some minor strokes of a saw to the lego claws? would give a bit of distance to the lego look for those parts...

So an entire week actually went by without me posting here. So what has been going on lately, well I've been sick for starters and have been in a poor mood related to my ongoing trouble at work and soon lack thereof entirely. So what I did do is the following, I did finish off my first infantry squad (without the Heavy Weapon Team's weapon). The reason the metal is a bronze color has two reasons, one it suits the dwarf/squat models really well and two a friend of mine is into Steampunk and the bronze just helps bring that out.


The First Regiment

When basecoating and painting these I did make some mistakes but hopefully the next group will come out better. Some of the models basecoat is way too thick but in the end they turned out okayish.... After all I am nowhere near a paint expert. Im just happy to get something painted for a change


Vox Caster (I know one hand seems to be larger than the other....its not shush!)



Plasma Gunner


I am still waiting for my Penal Legion soldiers....as in the Dwarf Bezerkers from Avatar of War. I actually had to order some more paint in order to have colors for the beards on the Squats. For a Squat without a beard is like an army without beer.... Or something.

Oh yeah! that Dwarven Bronze really works! it fits for all of the reasons you stated.

i have to dissagree here a bit...the dwarves don´t look okayish.....they look coolish^^ i think you nailed the steampunky look quite to the shortstuffs!^^ i especially like the muted main colors...very sombre that way...

from what i see and that one is a bit of a downer for me the pics don´t give credit enough of your work...if you are able to better this then: pleaaaase!^^
one other thing that´s bugging me is the plasma effect... in my mind plasma is either blueish, greenish or if you are daring enough then purplish...(is someone is detecting a -ish pattern here...have yourself a cuppa of chamomile tea^^)
and if you still insist on the yellowish ^^ effect then i at least would suggest working up the color with an orange and then gradually work up the brightness to actual white...ish^^

other than that i just have to repeat myself and have to say that your "dwergen" are pretty impressiv!

so i have spoken!

vik

I was trying to go for lava-ish and failing actually

Thanks guys appreciate the support.

At the moment I actually cut up one of the old plastic dwarf models (the static one with the raised axe, 1 posture only) to see if I can stick then inside some of my vehicles as pilots. I got like 6 of them that I got for free ages ago.

And sorry Vik I don't actually own a proper camera :(

argh.... that is too bad....(the thing about the cam...)

well if you want to go lava effect of the plama gun then i suggest starting to drybrush up to actual red amybe even a light black drybrush as a very final layer...and a badab black wash....i done some lava bases...this could be quite cool and new to make lava guns^^ probably more like a melter but there you go...
one thing i have thought about is the bases you are using... what will you do about them`? i have done quite some nice things with them with the use of air dry clay... dead cheapo... cant be beaten...no really, and you can sculpt almost anything out of it...just use it together with pva and there is no stopping you...or you could use FIMO... i did some nice sandbag barriers for my HW squads...which will one day see some paint hopefully...^^

sounds nice about the chopped pilothands... saw that trick pulled mostly with orks... would be a first one here too!

cheers, vik

Maybe just some more lighting?

Those squats are looking good !

So here is what I came up with as a backstory for my Squats as well as reasoning how they are still around when the Squat Homeworlds got hit by GW's Banhammer; I mean the Tyranid Hivefleet Behemoth. Let me know what you think....and be gentle damnit! Or else.....




Midas VI


Discovered by the Squats during their golden age when they were a part of the Imperium of Man. From their homeworld they supplied the Emperor’s armies with their advanced plasma based technology. In order to continue their expansion and advances in technology the Squat Homeworlds continuously searched for possible worlds to colonize in order to continue their supply of resources.
Midas VI was one such planet, rich in minerals but with a strong magnetic core. It’s heavy gravitational pull made it uninhabitable by humanity at large but to the Squat the gravity was only slightly above what they were used to. Located on the fringes of the galaxy outside what was the Imperium the Homeworlds sent off a small colonization fleet along with the troops to protect them against the unknowns of the fringe.
The Squats landed and colonized Midas VI and for a small time things went according to plan, their new colony prospered and the Squat Homeworlds were close to revealing their success to the Imperium as the Hive Fleet descended on them.
Midas VI was cut off from the Imperium ever since. Unsure of what occurred to the Homeworlds they have been reluctant to seek out contact with the Imperium, fearing they had chosen to continue the war that initially consumed their two races.
As far as they were aware they were the only remnants of the Squat race and thus strive to protect and preserve it at any cost. Having to fend for themselves they adhered to the rules and dogma they had been grown accustomed too. Their foundries and factories crafting new tanks and weapons for their own armies, converting industrial machines where needed.
Once again the Squat had become a race apart from the Imperium, isolated and yet enduring. The Tau emissaries were tolerated by the stoic Squats, they neither joined nor opposed their Greater Good and found in them occasional allies and the two races formed their own trade routes.
In the long years they have been on their new planet they started to reach back to the traditions of their forefathers. As their community grew they expanded downwards into the ground, almost all of the Imperial Architecture above left to the harsh elements of Midas VI. From orbit the planet looks all but abandoned and is mostly ignored by the sentient races.

j3r03n wrote:Simplistic sure, how would you go about it then? Like I said suggestions are more than welcome And one can't deny they are Space Dwarfs.

At the moment I'm basing my old Squat models. I'll take some pictures of them later. Seems I have some models more than once though, which is not exactly a big deal.

I do hope that my order of superglue comes in soon as I'm almost out....and with it the superglue activator.


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Right, so this has been a long time coming. To be honest due to my general lack of photographing skills I did not feel too confident that they would turn out alright. But as I am still awaiting a shipment of bits, glue and other assorted stuff I figured I might as well take the plunge and show what original Squat models I have.
So here we go.





Mole Mortar, Plasma Cannon


So here is hoping that I can continue my tinkering soon as my order of bits come in, at the rate things are going it'll be work on my Deathwing before I'll finish any more Squats. Then again...Deathwing is cool too. I got in my eBay order of a Land Raider, 5 Terminators and a Dreadnought and they look appalling. The Land Raider is even missing some pieces, I am not sure I will be able to restore it properly...at least I got a nice wreck out of it....maybe.

You have the mole mortar backwards. it loads from the top to fire the projectile down into the ground which tunnels it's way to the target.

Yup, youre not the first to notice that
Thanks for the heads up though ^_^

like th fluff! sounds interresting and demands countinuing...
this is but a shart version of my normal banter as for now i am sick of something unknown...when i get better then you can expect more...

vik

...Squats!

Alright so here is my request: I would like to see what you could come up with in regards to a playable army using the models I have at my disposal. The army size I leave up to everyone to choose for themselves (if I get any takers that is).
I am aware there is a chronic shortage of Troop Transports amongst my owned models, but is mostly due to a chronic shortage of money in my wallet.
I am also still conflicted whether or not I will use alternative models instead of actual Chimeras. Especially seeing there are kits out now to convert official GW Chimera’s into wheeled versions which I like a lot more than their tracked cousins. This also goes for my use of AT-43’s Red Blok Dotch Yaga stand ins for my Basilisk.
Even though I have quite a number of Kolossus from AT-43’s Red Blok, I have already semi-abandoned them as viable stand ins for Hellhounds due to their smaller than expected size.
The reason I listed all of the models grouped as I did was in order to provide as many possible links to images of my army so you can get an idea of what you are working with (although most of you have seen these pictures before anyways).
Like most forums and such I would ask that you do not list the cost of every component in an army regiment, just list them with the total cost of the unit. For an Infantry Platoon for example the costs for a Command Squad, Regiment and Regiment.
Even though I have lost my faith in some of the models for my Squat army, I will list them anyways because one of you might have a good idea.

Classic
- 2 Living Ancestors (Pictures One and Two )
- 5 Officers (Picture)
- 3 Sergeants (Picture)
- 3 Officers, Vox Caster and Standard Bearer (Picture)
- 9 Squat Troopers (Picture)
- 4,5 Exo Squats (Picture)
- 4 Heavy Weapon Teams (Pictures: One and Two )
- 10 Squat Bikers (Pictures: One and Two )

GW(ish)
- 1 Techpriest / Enginseer (White Dwarf Model) ( Picture )
- Colonel ‘Iron Hand’ Straken ( Picture )
- 5 Model, Platoon Command Squad (Commander, Vox Caster, Standard Bearer, two Plasma Gunners) ( Picture )
- 30 Infantry (3 Infantry Squads, 1 Veteran Squad)(Pictures: One , Two , Three , Four )
- 3 Heavy Weapon Mortar Teams ( Picture )
- 2 Leman Russ Executioners ( Picture )
- 1 Basilisk ( Picture )
- 1 Stormlord ( Picture )

Other
- 10 Servitors (Converted Epic Landraiders, 4 Plasma, Pictures: One , Two , Three )
- 12 Guardsmen (B’Dass Troopers, No Picture)
- 2 Commissars (B’Dass Commanders, Picture )
- 10 Ogryns (Grizzly Exosuits / Holocaust Judge, Picture )
- 10 Stormtroopers / Veterans with Carapace Armour (Hammerfall High Shield Gun Corps, Picture )
- 4 Sentinels (Robogear Werewolves, Picture , the model on the right)
- 3 Basilisks? (AT-43 Red Blok Dotch Yaga, Picture )
- 9 ??? (AT-43 Red Blok Kolossus, Picture )
- 3 Valkyrie / Vendetta (Robogear Condors, Picture )


* Most of the images are mine....but not all of them. So credit goes to the owners of each image.






> Vik: Get well soon matey

Lovely fluff matey, like the Midas touch with the golden planet , from the golden age. Seems very plausible , and is short and to the point , just like sqauts , not mincing their words

I have no ideas what a playable army would be , as i dont play , but i really like the models in the "other" section with the exception of the robogear walkers , which look a bit lanky for your guys . The valk is pure class as is the judge and the commisarr, the red blok stuff suitably suits your guys too. i dont like the new sevitor much though , mainly the arms .

Have you considered using the dkok wall breacher as your chimeras? maybe building a train cart to be pulled behind them ?

I have Neil, the main issue there would be money

The Robogear Walkers are really cheap and in person dont look that bad, they are bigger than an actual Sentinel though. But I do have two actual sentinels as well, I just semi drafted them for my second IG army, they can easily be brought back to Squat ownership though.

And thanks! New Servitor was made in an attempt to look similar to Wall-E it is the only one with arms, the rest is different (basically what I have left will get stuck on there).

I was quite happy with Midas as well, it was going to be a planet for a campaign I was planning originally but it kind of fell through. Liked the name so much I kept it.

i´d still use the kolossus units as sentinels...as for list building as a total noobs for rules i am totally the wrong person to give any advice at all....and thanks for the get well^^

quick question:

I know it's made by AT43, but what is the product name?
I might have to grab me one of those...maybe...

that one is called

Dotch Yaga

for your DKoK this could be a usefull addition...

can't think how big it will be, I'm thinking more of a deff dread to go with da spudstompa and the kids...
one of these, anyway:


last one's pic is dead and can't find any more:
http://www.spiritgames.co.uk/wgrulessin.php?UniqueNo=11630

if you can then get yourself that Kossak for your orks... his "faceplate" looks like a skull with one beady eye...i think perfect without much addo for orks...


wonder where jeroen is ? he seems to be online 24/7 but he seldom posts anymore...so i heereby declare him official missed and i think the authorities should be urged to hunt/ search for him...

I am....around.

Not been doing much hobby related stuff, even though my Dwarf Bezerkers finally came in from Avatars of War.

There is one hobby related thing I have been pondering and that is where to find Straw Hats....for some reason I cant shake the image of a feudal styled Imperial Guard regiment. Samurai Stormtroopers, Guardsmen lined up like musketeers..... Any suggestions are welcome.

Beyond that ill be around I guess....I do have a lot of reading to catch up too as well.

Everyone does that when playing with knights or similar minis. If I had a Bretonian fantasy army, i would be silly that way speaking with a "fancy brit" accent for the Knights, and a mock-cockney for the lower vassal troops.

I would suggest a line of Japanese/Chinese minis, Unfortunately, most are metals.

Yes....hence the inquiry about just the hats



Would make an awesome general / psyker general though

I'm sure I recall seeing some 25mm heads with straw hats, unfortunately my list of mini links was on my pc, which is still dead. Only one I can think of is West Wind Productions, but I'm fairly sure their samurai heads were just that, Samurai heads, not straw hatted.

Hmm, not a very useful post.

That would make a fine general j3ro3n.

i think with a blopb of GS shaped up to resemble a straw hat would be fairly easy....mostly to scratch some strawlike structure to a cone and you´d be set...

but if you are in for a decade of research on the head subject... then this thread here could provide too much help^^

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/260250.page

i remeber seeing a few asian heads once...dunno where tho...

^^

Hello Everyone,

For those that still keep an eye on this space, yes it has been too long since I posted anything at all. I recently found a new job and have another week to go before I go back to working fulltime (thank god). So that will most likely lift me from my hobby slump that I have been in ever since my unemployment started.

I can honestly say there is more than plenty to do. I have the following projects in varying states of progress: A Nurgle Fleet for Battlefleet Gothic, my Emperor's Pride Chapter of Deathwing Terminators, my Squat army (of course) and both my Tyranid as well as my Death Guard need to be painted or re-painted.

My Dreadfleet is being painted up by a friend of mine in exchange for a set of counters, doors and board tiles from the new Space Hulk (of which I have two more sets as well as a complete game left). And of course as Warpath got released almost a week ago my order of that should come in soon as well.

Lots to do. I am hoping to get back into the swing of things....of course after being unemployed for a while I am indeed flat ass broke so if I run out of stuff I won't be able to replace them for a while.

Anyways, thanks all for sticking around.

we sure did mate! stick around/hang around^^ glad you are back mate... and seems you have quite a schedule in front of you.... and that in the prospect of working full time! wow...cross fingers for you!

I found out that I actually tend to be more productive when I am working.... I just feel more motivated to get stuff done...

Ah well.

Back to cleaning my house >.>

so when will you be able to update your squat blog as well?

i know that feeling of productivity too... sometimes good stress brings you much further than too mach boring uneventfulness...

No clue yet, I doubt I will end up being very productive at first. One of the things Im almost out of is glue....semi important when assembling stuffs....

yeah... you could always try to assemble your stuff with wishful thinking...but i know that feeling well... when you have to look for money in the sofa to buy some suplies...

Well my order of Warpath came in about three days ago.

So I am currently in the process of looking over the sprues and considering wether or not to start clipping things from said sprues. I so need to get in touch with a mate to see if I can get my glue and basecoat back now.... (I am actually done clipping with all the Warpath stuff now, I still have a load of Avatar of War Bezerkers to do -_- )



Well I'll give you a picture of all the sprues sitting on my coffee table, currently watching Jeff Dunham as I remove everything and sort all the little bits into plastic containers.

Front Right - Hero
Right - Steel Warriors
Left (in front off the glass) - Stormrage Veterans
Further Left and out of Frame - Jotunn Heavy Hailstorm Cannons

Lots of clipping to go as well as try to sort out how to use the models as guardsmen, and the hailstorm cannons will most likely become Hydra Flak Tanks, based so their size matches that of the official versions.

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So here is a part listing for the Jotunn Heavy Hailstorm Cannon. Ill include the easier parts guide as well as a step by step seeing it is not included with the model (as mine came in plastic bags).



1.) Vehicle Chassis
2.) Tank Treads
3.) Pilot with Sidearm
4.) Shielding, Top
5.) Flak Cannon Parts
6.) Shielding, Lower
7.) Flak Cannon, Tip
8.) Ammo Feeds




So above I added the overly complicated image I made initially followed by a somewhat step by step guide to assembling the vehicle. As my basecoat is still at a friends place I have not started on painting it yet. So bear with me.



Step One: Attach the Tank Treads (2) to the Vehicle Chassis (1). Assemble the Flak Cannon (5) by glueing the two parts together. You will be left with the parts above.



Step Two: Attach the Lower Shielding (6) to the front of the Vehicle Chassis (1). Attach the Tip of the Flak Cannon (7) to the rest of the Flak Cannon (5) which you glued together in Step One. Finally attach the two Ammo Feeds (8); one to the rear of the Vehicle Chassis (1) and one to Flak Cannon (5). As depicted above. The Flak Cannon Ammo Feed might give you some issue but it is possible to attach it so it sits straight as opposed to slightly crooked as I've seen in most images.



Step Three: Start by attaching the Top Shielding (4) to the Flak Cannon (5), there is a special slot for the part to be glued into so it should fit without too much hassle. Assemble the Pilot (3) by adding the sidearm to the slot in his back then fit him onto the Vehicle Chassis (1). Finally add the Flak Cannon (5) to the Vehicle Chassis (1) as well. Make sure that the thing will fit and the Top Shielding should slide in just behind the Lower Shielding.

And there you go.



I included a size comparison shot here in order to get a better idea of how big (or in this case small) the vehicle is when compared to other 40K vehicles. I wanted to use them as possible Hydra Flak Tanks. As you can see both the Rhino and the Chimera Chassis actually seem to fill out an entire basic Regiment Base for Warhammer Fantasy. So I figure in order to use this as a stand in model I need to place it on a base that is at least a similar size and measure everything from the base as opposed to from the model itself.

Hope this helps all of the people out there getting busy with Warpath or contemplating using the Forge Fathers for Squats (like I will be).

See you all later.

as i said in your blog... a very clever idea to use the unitbases of WHFB for sizecomparrision...

also the parts look promising...but together they lack for me a certain IG look... but i guess for a dwarf army^^ that is fitting

Now J3r, I reckon that Jotunn will serve you well as a Rapier or Thudd Gun battery for your Squats.

I was considering them myself, until I realised I needed 9+ of them, and I don't think my wife will let me do that any time soon.

Close to three years since I posted....and only now did I recently play my Squats for the first time....

Also started another IG Penal Regiment....which of course with the new codex kinda needs a change in direction.

Working on my Deathwing as well as my Nurgle marines, yep slowly getting back to work....currently ive been managing 2> games per year ._.

anyways im back...ish

Hey j3r...good to see you're back.

Look forward to seeing some pics when you're ready.

welcome back mate...


I guess after all this time the standard phrase pics or it didn´t happen sounds a bit weird......