I recently came back from travelling around Europe for 3 months on a climbing trip, needless to say upon my arrival home I am very very low on funds, so I thought I'd give painting for profit a proper go, as I'd dabbled in it before going away, but never gone balls deep so to speak, anyway here's the stuff I've painted up since last tuesday, if anyone's interested in how I did any of it please feel free to ask for recipes etc, or equally if you've got any constructive criticism bring it on by the bucket load, I'm always looking to improve so it's all welcome!


Like I said it's all on ebay, so if you're interested here's a link :Ebay Linky


a Quick rundown of the kits: all were brilliant barring 2 -typical of the ridiculous quality with which GW have been leading the industry with their plastic kits, in particular the dark elf dragon and sorc were a complete pleasure to assemble and paint, and I think the sorc is one of my favourite individual char models ever!

Having said that...

a) Minor(ish) problem with the big skull throne piece - it's a bit of a ball-ache to construct the lower column, I had to leave it drying with about 5 elastic bands around it, and it was much more fiddly than I was expecting.

b) The Cockatrice (**Yes, another person moaning about finecast**)

Not impressed, I don't see why you would ever choose to use this over their plastics, on which the detail is amazing, filth from the moulding process all over it, miscasted sections which made construction really difficult. This is only my experience of one model but given the option I'd never choose this over their plastics ever, 'nuff said.


Enough babble, here's the pics:



























Ebay Link in case you don't want to scroll all the way up again ^_^


Again any questions/comments/crits always welcome!

Cheers for looking,

~Byronic

Wow...
That's well done.

amazing, I love that dragon

Your painting is really amazing. I especially love the piece in the last pictures, very nicely done.

I do have a small criticism and that's that I can see the lines where you attach pieces of the kits together. They are very visible on the dragon's head/neck.

But other than that it all looks wonderful. <3

The first fulcrum makes me want to say
"By the power of Greyskull... I have the power!"

Love it all. I need to get some of this stuff!

I'm making a Magnus daemon model, I need those feathered wings and at least one of those tails with the head on the end.

purplefood wrote:Wow...
That's well done.

Brennian wrote:amazing, I love that dragon

Cheers guys, I'll do y best to give you some more stuff to look at soon. If you can find a any excuse to go out and buy the dragon kit do it, it's brilliant!

Kimzi Caky wrote:Your painting is really amazing. I especially love the piece in the last pictures, very nicely done.

I do have a small criticism and that's that I can see the lines where you attach pieces of the kits together. They are very visible on the dragon's head/neck.

But other than that it all looks wonderful. <3

Cheers, crits always good appreciated! I'm currently trying to find a quicker drying alternative to green stuff for this - I'm painting about 1 monster a day and when I'm going so fast it doesn't have tie to dry properly, anyone with any ideas? (Milliput is too slow also, I'm sure I've seen that a humbrol version which dries faster is around somewhere, but I can't recall where, nor track it down).

Saintspirit wrote:The first fulcrum makes me want to say
"By the power of Greyskull... I have the power!"

Tell me about it is 8 skulls enough for you though? I love this stuff, GW know how to handle their own clichés!

tantan628 wrote:Love it all. I need to get some of this stuff!

I'm making a Magnus daemon model, I need those feathered wings and at least one of those tails with the head on the end.

I should think the bits will be up fro a few sellers on ebay some time soon (tail at least), or on the forums if people are converting the kit, which seems a popular idea.

As for the wings, a little word of warning, if you get the model in a shop open it up there and then and give it a check, mine weren't in the best state, covered in mould-release agent (which happens to be bright pink incidentally :S) and with a fair few imperfections, if you open it up there and then you'll be able to swap it for a better one if you get unlucky.

More updates soon hopefully guys, took a bit of a chill on the painting today as I'm in danger of suffering major hardcore hobbying burnout syndrone (MH..H.......BS...?) otherwise.

Cheers,

Byron

Those pieces look absolutly insane nice job.


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Just to add another comment... I forgot to mention the dragon's skin is so smoothly blended. Did you use oil paints or acrlyic?

Green stuff the dragon and let it set, in the mean time paint something else?

How are you painting so fast? And so fething amazingly???

Amazing work mate!

Wow, these look amazing XD

40k Ninja wrote:Those pieces look absolutly insane nice job.


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Just to add another comment... I forgot to mention the dragon's skin is so smoothly blended. Did you use oil paints or acrlyic?

I use GW acrylics mostly but for the wings I mixed tamia acrylic paint thinner in with them, I find that greys are probably the best colour for doing this with (hence it looking better than my other stuff probably), I'll run you through my sequence:


1.) Prime With Halfords Grey Primer (close to codex grey in colour - very helpful!)

2.) Basecoat with:

Codex Grey (I use this colour A LOT, it blends beautifully, and it's quite strong)
+ Chardon Granite (I put a foundation paint in pretty much every basecoat I use
+ a tiny bit of liche purple (my cohesion colour, I used it en every mix throughout the model)

1:1:microdot

This step is done with an airbrush, but it's only marginally slower when done with a brush (yay paint thinner drying fast - you'll notice this as a theme throughout)

3). Really Dilute down chaos black, but use thinner instead of water, as it's alchohol based it evaporates so much faster, use this on the lower sections of the wing membranes.

4). As with step three but with fortress grey (another good strong colour), but put this on the upper sections.

Part of the joy of thinning the paint is that if I make a mistake it's not noticable, because the layers are so thin, but because they dry so fast with the thinner it's a hugely sped up process, I guess it's kind of speed glazing? It's even possibly to use non thinned down paint on the highlight and shadow extremities, then blend towards them, it's not quite as smooth but it's even faster.

This technique is MUCH easier on a model of this size, as at no point are you waiting for paint to dry, there were 5 sections to each wing, top and bottom, and by the time I was on membrane 4 membrane 1 would be all but dry,

It's one of the reasons why painting a larger model to a high quality isn't necessarily going to be any more time consuming than painting a small one - the Delf sorc took nearly the same amount of time as the dragon, and that's probably only due to the extra time spent painting all of the dragon's base.

theQuanz wrote:Green stuff the dragon and let it set, in the mean time paint something else?

How are you painting so fast? And so fething amazingly???

Part of the painting fast is contained in your first question.

I find it very hard to maintain painting psyche if I'm painting 8 hours a day like I have been, and one way to maintain it is to make sure at the end of every day I have at least one finished model, so I've been doing one monster per day, or 2 pieces of scenery. So every day I've been waking up, having breakfast, taking the plastic wrap from a box, and then blitzing it until it's finished.

As far as techniques go I make use of any that I can to make things faster, drybrushing (all scenery), wet blending (cockatrice's tail), use of washes eternity stair was 100%covered in 2 stages of wash), I undercoat everything in halfords grey primer the best colour to start from in my opinion, it all builds up.

I airbrush any stage I can, I find this particularly helpful with basecoats, but even better is if I can use car-paints, for example if I'm painting a model red I Prime it then nearly always spray it with halfords VW mars red, this saves me doing ultiple layers of other brands of red as a base to get it as vibrant as I need fast.


If you've any questions about how I painted particular models fast please fire away, I figure it'd be great if people could learn from the 100s of mistakes I make while experimenting with painting

Excellent painting mate!

All in all, fantastic work on your models there. The only problem i have really is with the cockatrice. The blood kind of kills it for me. There's nothing on the base (that i saw) that was being eaten, so i can't tell where the blood was coming from, and with it only on the claws and beak, it looks more like he was trying to eat his own toes.

Overall, the models are fantastic. Great job.

awesome

to fill gaps quickly, vallejo make a plastic putty that can be put into the seams and will dry in around an hour or so, quicker under a warm lamp. but the other way you could do it is to use slightly more plastic glue and then sand the part back. this is a quick and dirty but not very pretty and can mess up the kit if you are not great with it.

one other method i have heard of but not tried is filling the seam with bicarb of soda and then puting some super glue on there. this causes the superglue to set very rock hard. but then again you will need to sand that back. all in all a lot quicker then greenstuff but ymmv.

love the painting but I would suggest using some inks and washes to get a bit more depth, I would say that is the biggest thing that notices on the vortex, where you have an awesome blend but not much depth

thanks for sharing!

Wonderful paints. Love the blending.

Amazing paintjob! Keep up the good work!

The paint jobs are so crisp, I'm jealous.

Fantastic job!

Cheers for all of the comments guys!

cyphertheory wrote:to fill gaps quickly, vallejo make a plastic putty that can be put into the seams and will dry in around an hour or so, quicker under a warm lamp. but the other way you could do it is to use slightly more plastic glue and then sand the part back. this is a quick and dirty but not very pretty and can mess up the kit if you are not great with it.

one other method i have heard of but not tried is filling the seam with bicarb of soda and then puting some super glue on there. this causes the superglue to set very rock hard. but then again you will need to sand that back. all in all a lot quicker then greenstuff but ymmv.

love the painting but I would suggest using some inks and washes to get a bit more depth, I would say that is the biggest thing that notices on the vortex, where you have an awesome blend but not much depth

thanks for sharing!

Thanks bud, I'll look into it!

I'm working on a Necromancer, 2 more pieces of scenery,another dragon, and a chimera currently, and I've got another cockatrice on order, I'll get some pictures up soon, Auctions all ending tomorrow:

Like I said it's all on ebay, so if you're interested here's a link :Ebay Linky

Fingers crossed! The terrain and chars both see to be going with a similar interest, which I'm a little surprised about :s

They're gorgeously painted, but the Cockatrice has something off about it.

The blood effects make it look more like it blew a bubble of cherry gum up and had it explode in its face than it just savagely rended someone. On the next Cockatrice, maybe try to keep the connecting points down a bit?
It's still amazing work mind you, but the blood effects just are kind of making it more comical than intimidating to my eyes.

WOW, wicked work mate, top notch

Tah for the responses guys, I thought people might be interested in just how hectic my desk is currently :O (apologies for the distracting background, I've got a small room and didn't think to shift the canvases somewhere else pre-photograph as that's where they live until they get sold.)

Looking forward to being able to shift some of this (but not necessarily to carefully packing all of this lot, hopefully the same person will buy all of it so I only have to send one very well padded box ^_^)

To the right is stuff which is WiP:




Now: Important question, which I'd really appreciate some responses on, especially if you are, or have been a VC collector: what stuff from the new pre-order VC models do you guys think will sell the best, in particular do you think people will be too bothered about buying a new banshee or cairn wraith when they possibly already own models?

That's it for now, I'll get some decent photos of the finished Necromancer some time soon hopefully, just one last gratuitous plug for Ebay as it's the last day

Cheers, Byron

For filling gaps you might want to try the paint-on-milliput method which dries a lot faster than milliput itself (especially when under a warm lamp).

You can also use any variety of modeling putty, but with those you have to be careful since most are acetone based, and can ruin your model if you don't know what you're doing with it.

My final word of wisdom would be not to rush assembly and painting. Take your time, plan it out, and it will all come out great.

Your painting is amazing btw. Some of the pieces look as if you took them from some GW catalog

Thats quite a bit of effort.

Well done.

adary wrote:For filling gaps you might want to try the paint-on-milliput method which dries a lot faster than milliput itself (especially when under a warm lamp).

You can also use any variety of modeling putty, but with those you have to be careful since most are acetone based, and can ruin your model if you don't know what you're doing with it.

My final word of wisdom would be not to rush assembly and painting. Take your time, plan it out, and it will all come out great.

Your painting is amazing btw. Some of the pieces look as if you took them from some GW catalog

Cheers for the info!

Unfortunately taking my time isn't much of an option when I'm trying to do a monster per day ^_^, that's why finding these fast-working products is so important.

AvatarForm wrote:Thats quite a bit of effort.

Well done.

Cheers

Here's another dragon, I tried to do a brighter base to contrast with it being so dark, all thoughts welcome!:




Hopefully I'll get some more stuff up this evening.

I love that dragon. Every time I see it a little voice tells me to buy one.
Very nicely painted again.

Kimzi Caky wrote:I love that dragon. Every time I see it a little voice tells me to buy one.
Very nicely painted again.

Thanks I think the little voice is probably talking sense, I can't sing the kits' praises enough!

It's been a while since my last post, I've not been idle though, I've done some more SoM terrain and some riders for dragons that people won:



(No matt varnish on this in pic)



New Vampire stuff!
So I've constructed a necrogheist, I've no idea how to go about painting it, which is somewhat daunting, as I'm going to start in about 10 minutes!

As far as the construction goes it's a well made kit, however it is a lot more time consuming than other recent GW monsters (SoM Chimera, Dragon etc), it's got quite a lot of parts and layers to it, also the seal lines, rather than running helpful in crevices, or down the edge of pieces tend to dissect them, for example running all of the way down the spine, which is pretty fiddly to get into, i recommend a semi-rounded needle file if people have one.

Anyway, here's 2 banshees, I'm pretty happy with how the colours cae out on the robes, given that it was complete guesswork I got what I was aiming for, making the hair bright was incredibly faffy, about 10 thin coats of skull white as a base to make sure it came out bright!:







If anyone would like any recipes etc shout out

Cheers; lots more to come in the next couple of days!

Byron

Looks amazing. I really like that frost base you have.

40k Ninja wrote:Looks amazing. I really like that frost base you have.

Thanks bud, top tip: do the basing before sticking the model on, so you don't have to ever so carefully prise it off then stick it back on again ^_^



Important question guys!:
Do you think my Garden of Morr would gain me more profit sold separately or all in one?
(And if separately how should I do it? e.g. one for buildings, one for fences etc?)

Thoughts really appreciated on this!

Also here's my Terrorgheist so far, thoughts on it really appreciated! (What type of base would show him up best? I'm thinking classic GW with dark rocks, not entirely sure though) Still some washing down of the skin to do to add depth, and of course his rider.




I've got about 2-3 more hours on this, so if you've got any suggestions as to what to do with that time hit me with them!

Dark base would work best. Also, painting a couple of the smaller rocks as green-glowing warpstone would contrst nicely with the red used on the wings i think.

J.Black wrote:Dark base would work best. Also, painting a couple of the smaller rocks as green-glowing warpstone would contrst nicely with the red used on the wings i think.

I used a fairly bright flock to try and get some contrast, I'd spent far too long on it to do much fancy with the bse unfortunately, it's not like you're low on room on it though ^_^

Terrorgheist (sorry about the amount of pics, very hard to photograph!



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light's fading so the pictures not quite the best but you get the idea:



All of this stuff is now up on Ebay

I like the terrorgeist although the rider blends into the monster too much.

Byronic wrote:

40k Ninja wrote:Looks amazing. I really like that frost base you have.

Thanks bud, top tip: do the basing before sticking the model on, so you don't have to ever so carefully prise it off then stick it back on again ^_^

Thanks for the tip.
That zombie dragon look awesome. The wings are blended yes?

The more I think about it, the more I feel that the ZD/Gheists wings would work excellent for a Skarbrand conversion...

Also, ooking good! But I agree with ezephalon, the Ghoulkin vamp is somewhat hard to notice.

Enzephalon wrote:I like the terrorgeist although the rider blends into the monster too much.

Saintspirit wrote:The more I think about it, the more I feel that the ZD/Gheists wings would work excellent for a Skarbrand conversion...

Also, ooking good! But I agree with ezephalon, the Ghoulkin vamp is somewhat hard to notice.

Thanks for the feedback guys, appreciated as ever! I think the problem is somewhat exaggerated by the photos not quite doing the model justice, but this is something I will try and address in my next terrorgeist.

40k Ninja wrote:

Byronic wrote:

40k Ninja wrote:Looks amazing. I really like that frost base you have.

Thanks bud, top tip: do the basing before sticking the model on, so you don't have to ever so carefully prise it off then stick it back on again ^_^

Thanks for the tip.
That zombie dragon look awesome. The wings are blended yes?

No worries yeah, they're a combination of wet-blending and the airbrush.

These photos any better? I'll never be accused of being a camera-whizz :S





I've finished another SoM character, an alternative dragon rider, and 2 more SoM terrain pieces, hopefully I'll get some pics soon, fingers crossed for some sun tomorrow instead of 5 feet of rain like today ^_^

As ever all of this stuff is up on ebay

Loads of pics upcoming, it's been a manic week!I've 2 more wraiths+banshees, some SoM scenery, a rider for a dark elf dragon, to add to the terrorgeist banshees and wraith I listed on sunday.

I've unexpectedly got to go and attend to some family stuff on sunday for a few days, and as a result In the next 2 and a bit days I've got a chimera, a cockatrice, a dark elf sorceress (for the dragon - 2nd mount option) to paint, on top of this I've got another terrorgeist built, but that may be more than I can manage in the time remaining, we'll see.

Anyways here's a shedload of pics, some of them were a little rushed, so apologies for the quality, all of the Vampire Counts Stuff is up on ebay.

Cairn Wraith #2


Cairn Wraith #3


Banshees 3 and 4 (spot the difference!):




I did this for a client who collects undead, fairly happy with the outcome:


2 of the inner bits from the Garden of Morr


2 Morr ^_^


Same old dragon, now with added shiny bits and rider!



That's the lot, there may well be more coming tomorrow though ^_^

If you frequent other forums apologies for c&ping the lot shamelessly across a couple of them, far too much squinting has gone down today for me to type more than one post of this length, please forgive me! [-o< [-o<

Nom nom, and I believe, nom. I love them!

Quick couple of WiPs:

All looks really great

I always wanted to try buying new stuff just to paint and sell, but I'm so busy with my own projects, i never get around to it

Really nice stuff, I like it.

Quick question: how did you get that blue colouring for the roof on that Garden of Morr kit?

Wow, I just love those banshees and the dragon with rider and shinys is epic! I also really like the wraiths, that light blue to darker just looks amazing.

Necros wrote:All looks really great

I always wanted to try buying new stuff just to paint and sell, but I'm so busy with my own projects, i never get around to it

From what I've seen of your blog/site they'd do pretty well if you did bud, just got to do an army in 2 weeks or so instead of 2 years, things get frantic

htj wrote:Really nice stuff, I like it.

Quick question: how did you get that blue colouring for the roof on that Garden of Morr kit?

Sure, if you've got time I'd just use hawk turqoise, but I mixed in 2parts HT to one of Gnarloc Green and Ultramarines blue (ish) - just so I could involve a foundation paint for speed of coverage.

Next and last step is a wash of vallejo Sepia + Black wash 50/50 with a couple of drops of glaze medium, water, and thinner (the thinner pops the bubbles you get in the wash from shaking it up), devlan mud would do the job alone just as well though

Kimzi Caky wrote:Wow, I just love those banshees and the dragon with rider and shinys is epic! I also really like the wraiths, that light blue to darker just looks amazing.

Thanks, I was glad with how they came out, from now on I'll make sure to put grass on the base before I do the glowy effects as well, as I think that made a difference




Mega cheap terrorgeist!
Unfortunately y terrorgeist has dropped from £120.00 to £60ish in the last day due to no less than FOUR bids being cancelled, as a result there's a pretty good bargain up for grabs, fingers crossed it'll pick up before it sells, it took me 2 days solid to paint!

Cheap as chips, and slightly better looking!

Thanks, Byronic! I think I'll use the foundation paint method, as I like to be able to get a good coverage on the first go round. Much appreciated tip.

Particularly on the Terrorgheist (I just bought one, cuz its a bad ass model) I have a few painting questions...


I was wondering if you could run me through a step by step on how you did him. I am an intermediate painter. Particularly, how did you get that skin coloring on him, it looks like some sort of purple wash and greys? And how did you get some of those fleshy parts shiny and just wet looking?

What would you do differently if you could paint it all over again?

My initial thoughts on painting my Terrorgheist:
1. Prime White
2. Wash wings with several coats of baal red, Wash bones with a few coats of gryphone sepia and 1 devlan mud, wash the blackish/bluish skin areas with asuramen blue, followed by a 3-1 mix of water/chaos black, then again with the asuramen blue.
3. Drybrush wings scab red, drybrush bones bleached bone, drybrush skin a dark greyish/blue color (not sure which one yet)
4. Drybrush highlights of wings blood red, bones skull white, and skin a lighter greyish/blue color
5. Touch ups, and maybe one coat of appropriate washes.

What do you use for thinner to make custom washes?

Thanks for tips,
~Dave

htj wrote:Thanks, Byronic! I think I'll use the foundation paint method, as I like to be able to get a good coverage on the first go round. Much appreciated tip.

DrCrook wrote:Particularly on the Terrorgheist (I just bought one, cuz its a bad ass model) I have a few painting questions...


I was wondering if you could run me through a step by step on how you did him. I am an intermediate painter. Particularly, how did you get that skin coloring on him, it looks like some sort of purple wash and greys? And how did you get some of those fleshy parts shiny and just wet looking?

What would you do differently if you could paint it all over again?

My initial thoughts on painting my Terrorgheist:
1. Prime White
2. Wash wings with several coats of baal red, Wash bones with a few coats of gryphone sepia and 1 devlan mud, wash the blackish/bluish skin areas with asuramen blue, followed by a 3-1 mix of water/chaos black, then again with the asuramen blue.
3. Drybrush wings scab red, drybrush bones bleached bone, drybrush skin a dark greyish/blue color (not sure which one yet)
4. Drybrush highlights of wings blood red, bones skull white, and skin a lighter greyish/blue color
5. Touch ups, and maybe one coat of appropriate washes.

What do you use for thinner to make custom washes?

Thanks for tips,
~Dave

Hey Dave, thanks for the questions, I'll try and answer the all to the best of y ability; if I miss any out let me know!

GW gloss varnish makes the stuff shiny.

The skin is started with chaos black + codex grey + a little liche purple (I put it in everything it seems

I then added more codex grey, and then fortress grey to the next layers, finally I gave it a wash of very thinned down purple wash (GW) to shade the details.

To do differently on my second one I painted the bone sections before the I painted the wings, made it easier to keep things clean, I also only used foundations paints; khemri brown + dheneb stone then dheneb for the highlight.

Your method may end up with a odel that's a bit too bright, you could always just do a lot of layers though, if you do use it it'll be really important to make sure your white basecoat is as smooth as possible, a few thin layers with good drying time in between each is always the safest way to go.

Sorry for the late response, I've been 200miles away from home for the past few days!

Up on eBay now:

Apologies for the ghouly chap at the bottom, it's the pic I used in my auction.

A fair few pics for y'all.

Cockatrice I painted for a client



Ebay Stuffs Pretty happy with the scenery in general, loving getting out the big brush!









Also quite excited to be working on these chappies; I've never painted a full unit of monster sizers before



That's it for now, comments+crits welcome!

Have you tried the Val paint on putty stuff (plastic putty a ithink it's called)? That dries uber quick though isn't so good for bigger gaps.

Amazing painting btw

Very nice indeed! Like the shading on the muscles of that dragon-bat thing.

I really like the dragon and the Garden of Morr. The Terrogeist looks awful, though.

WingWong wrote:Have you tried the Val paint on putty stuff (plastic putty a ithink it's called)? That dries uber quick though isn't so good for bigger gaps.

Amazing painting btw

I'll definitely look into this, thanks very much!

Skoolstah wrote:Very nice indeed! Like the shading on the muscles of that dragon-bat thing.

Cheers ate, glad you like them.

eledamris wrote:I really like the dragon and the Garden of Morr. The Terrogeist looks awful, though.

Ideally looking for constructive criticism, thanks for your thoughts but I can't improve on it if you don't explain why you think it looks awful!


Ebay Stuff ending this eve/next sunday

I actually did some modelling for myself yesterday, sculpted a couple of cobblestone bases; I am actually going to have a gae of warhamer 8th ed at some point in the near future, and I plan on taking a good looking entirely un-optimised chaos army I'll get some pics up of them tomorrow.

Garden of morr #2 (ish, only done one set of fences) done, let me know what you all think.






Also some cobblestone bases (first thing I've done just for me in a fair while)

Just a quickie here, shot of a test model I've done for a client to work out how to paint his ogres.



Nearly 2000points of wood elves arrived in the post for me as well, I'll be painting them up for my own personal army some time soon when I get a free few days, going to be building up all of the army before I start though, some pics of that'll be coming shortly, it's a core heavy +treeman list, not a horse in sight thank god!

GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRR





Few bits and bobs to do on them; but you get the idea, really enjoyed painting these chaps

This stuff is beautiful... I haven't checked your ebay link yet, but whats the going rate on some of your commissions?

Alfndrate wrote:This stuff is beautiful... I haven't checked your ebay link yet, but whats the going rate on some of your commissions?

Thanks mate! It depends entirely what you're interested in bud, monsters/vehicles/infantry/characters are all different, and I do standards from superquick get it on the table looking decent to full display quality, drop me a PM if you're interested in something in-particular

I forgot to say in my last post that a unit of leadbelchers for the same guy is up next.

That's some very nice work indeed.

I'm very interested in learning to use an airbrush and would appreciate a quick rundown of what equipment you're using and how long you took to learn (any tips or hints or tutorials I can read up on?) as I'm very keen to understand how to blend like I'm seeing on that black dragon.

regarding the big bat thing, I'd love to see one done like a flayed animal, bit like Frank in the 1st hellraiser.

Good show, sir.

Love the painting mate, really well done. The only thing I can nit pick about was the beak on the chimera. the yellow just put me off a bit.

Azza007 wrote:Love the painting mate, really well done. The only thing I can nit pick about was the beak on the chimera. the yellow just put me off a bit.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Good show, sir.

Cheers guys! @ Azza it's a pretty abusively colourful model overall; I can see why some people's personal preference wouldn't sit right with it

MeanGreenStompa wrote:That's some very nice work indeed.

I'm very interested in learning to use an airbrush and would appreciate a quick rundown of what equipment you're using and how long you took to learn (any tips or hints or tutorials I can read up on?) as I'm very keen to understand how to blend like I'm seeing on that black dragon.

regarding the big bat thing, I'd love to see one done like a flayed animal, bit like Frank in the 1st hellraiser.

Thanks bud; on the first page I do a run down of the sequence of paints I used, there's only really three layers to it.

Is far as equipment goes I've got an Iwata Revolution CR airbrush; and the biggest tip I can give is lots of practice; I've been using mine for less than six months though, it doesn't take too long to adjust to.

A couple of people I watched lots of videos by before buying my airbrush, and for general techniques were:

http://www.youtube.com/my_subscriptions?feature=mhee&s=8Z_yMGq3_32W0BlGWceekHF7OkyczVEuaucPA08U7jw

http://www.youtube.com/user/WGConsortium

And watching this guy's videos is really helpful for learning about glazing, which can be applied universally, airbrush or not.

http://www.youtube.com/my_subscriptions?feature=mhee&s=8Z_yMGq3_32W0BlGWceekCs3QyWHiWc9mCpFlB5Ct8A


Overall it just takes time to practice, time spent reading up/watching tutorials, and a fair bit of experimentation, I've long thought that the best way to master a technique is to paint a full army involving it, I'd still say that's the case.

Hope that's helpful, any more questions feel free to ask.

I really can't think of something negative to say!

riverhawks32 wrote:I really can't think of something negative to say!

Ha, cheers bud, maybe you will about these fellows though! Looking for and comments or crits you fellows can think of.








My client wanted a couple of changes to the Bulls: I dulled down the silver on their blades with a glaze, and re-shaded and highlighted the champs gut-plate, also added him a sleeve tattoo with triangles banded at the top to look like the maw as a test for a potential detail for all of the army, here's a million pictures; unfortunately the sun didn't know whether it was coming or going today so they're not too consistent, the skin got flatted out a bit so that's why I took a few close ups.

The 4 leadbelchers have their skin done, and 2 have had their trousers checked.

All of them AMAZING and surprizing a roosterdragon that dosent look like..well a roosterdragon

Rogue Wolves wrote:All of them AMAZING and surprizing a roosterdragon that dosent look like..well a roosterdragon

Haa! I've not heard it called that before, I'm glad it doesn't though





Comments and crits welcome as ever!

Big Guns!

All but finished.

For the first time ever in this blog I'm going to show some pics of my own personal modelling projects, which I don't get to spend that much time on, anways here's what I'll be trying to get done for myself in the next couple of months:



(+ 1 more treeman, either another GW one of a conversion)

Just a quickie to show you guys I've not been slacking too much recently!

It's been a long time since I've updated here; don't worry I've been keeping busy! I'll have 2000points of the Ogre commission I'm working on done soon; and then I'll get some proper pictures, I've also got a bit of Privateer Press stuff that needs photographing.


For now here's some pictures of my own army I've been working on; let me know your thoughts!

(Glade guard need skin and leather sorted, dryads need base smoothing and spites/skulls done)



Byron

Cool fatties, I like the hunters skin more then the grays though

Its awesome how you get that clean look to your models paint jobs, love it!

Hi guys; I'm going to paint up some necrons for ebay and I was wondering which option for the ark and barge kits you all thought would sell better on ebay? It'd really be helping me out if you could lend me your knowledge

Hopefully painting will begin in earnest tomorrow

I think the Command Barge looks cooler than the Doomsday Ark.
But you know, whatever floats your boat!
And I want to see them when painted.

forruner_mercy wrote:I think the Command Barge looks cooler than the Doomsday Ark.
But you know, whatever floats your boat!
And I want to see them when painted.

Unfortunately it's not the command barge; but consider this update (and the related edge-highlight based insanity) just for you






Any thoughts y'all?

Byron

Looks great, what green did you use?

Looks awesome! I too wonder what greens you used

If you choose the Doomsday Ark, flip the whole front section upside down. Otherwise... ugh.

Roleplayer wrote:Looks great, what green did you use?

Cheers bud; I'm going fairly standard; but I've done it over y normal basecoat of halfords grey primer, so it's come out lighter than it would do otherwise

Base: Dark Angels Green + Chaos Black, not entirely sure on the ratio but it's probably 2:1 ish

Edge highlight is D.A.G + Scorpion, I'd say 1:1ish

(Additional edge highlights not in picture)

S.G + D.A.G 7:1 ish

SG

S.G + Skull white 3:1ish

Dot highlight S.G + S.W 1:1ish


[q.uote=Robbietobbie]Looks awesome! I too wonder what greens you used

Too bad my I did my monolith 'eavy metal style and doing my barge and ark like this wouldn't help coherency. This green undercoat looks so much better

Robbietobbie wrote:Too bad my I did my monolith 'eavy metal style and doing my barge and ark like this wouldn't help coherency. This green undercoat looks so much better

Cheers mate; I think there's definitely room for a middle ground though, the onoloth has such big panels you've got room to 'fade' from one colour to another quite nicely, then bring it all back in check with the edges.

Few more picture for you all:

Wow again nice work! I really like the warscythe. Is that a mix from chaosblack-d.a.g. to d.a.g to d.a.g-scorpion to scorpion to scorpion-white? ^^that would be my guess at least

Some really awesome edge highlighting there! Looks like it would take quite some time.

Robbietobbie wrote:Wow again nice work! I really like the warscythe. Is that a mix from chaosblack-d.a.g. to d.a.g to d.a.g-scorpion to scorpion to scorpion-white? ^^that would be my guess at least

Good guess! All but spot on: it's that in reverse to keep the bright stuff super bright Skull white basecoat, then getting darker, you're 100%right on the colours ^_^

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Some really awesome edge highlighting there! Looks like it would take quite some time.

It really did; I won't divulge how long, but suffice to say too long!

It's over though!



Cheers for looking guys, lord next!

Byron

The finished product really looks amazing! Is the highlighting d.a.g and some scorpion or did you mix those again? Think I'll try that paintscheme myself for the living metal parts if you dont mind too much

Yeah, that really is great. That's how I want mine to look only with some swampy effects (I'm uncertain how to do this).

Robbietobbie wrote:The finished product really looks amazing! Is the highlighting d.a.g and some scorpion or did you mix those again? Think I'll try that paintscheme myself for the living metal parts if you dont mind too much

Not at all, be y guest!

You're correct, the highlights are made from a new mix, I make sure to thin the first 'highlight' to the edge highlights after the first layer with a fair bit of water so it doesn't look to harsh.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Yeah, that really is great. That's how I want mine to look only with some swampy effects (I'm uncertain how to do this).

O_o swampy effects on the base? It'd look amazing if you could do ripples in the water and some blown over reeds etc.

Couple of quick wip shots of the lord, I've got tomorrow to spend on the necrons then I'll be back on the ogres for my client.





Cheers for looking,

Byron

Byronic wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Yeah, that really is great. That's how I want mine to look only with some swampy effects (I'm uncertain how to do this).

O_o swampy effects on the base? It'd look amazing if you could do ripples in the water and some blown over reeds etc.

No, but like this: http://www.legionsgames.com/mastergallery/necron_terror.htm

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Yeah, that really is great. That's how I want mine to look only with some swampy effects (I'm uncertain how to do this).

O_o swampy effects on the base? It'd look amazing if you could do ripples in the water and some blown over reeds etc.

The lord looks great!Really liking that OSL, is that pure scorpion green?

Robbietobbie wrote:The lord looks great!Really liking that OSL, is that pure scorpion green?

Cheers bud.

Pretty much I painted dheneb stone (because it's over black, saves time instead of skull white) towards the top of the orbs, it's much easier with S.G to let the base-coat do the brightest bits for you I think, then used pure S.G, then S.G:Sunburst Yellow 2:1 for the final highlight

I don't know why it looks so flat in the light background pictures, that's why i included the dark ones, never mind ^_^

I really like the lighting effects you've accomplished with the orb and scythe, I've done this with snot green, but it isn't bright enough. I like the barge a lot, your highlights are so crisp and uniform

Makes me want some of the new necrons more :(

StasisNid95 wrote:I really like the lighting effects you've accomplished with the orb and scythe, I've done this with snot green, but it isn't bright enough. I like the barge a lot, your highlights are so crisp and uniform

Makes me want some of the new necrons more :(

Cheers bud, for me the biggest difference is starting with a white basecoat for the object you're meant to have the light cast from, so things look soewhat more natural, then the source lighting isn't quite as bright, which is how things should be.

Whether you're using an airbrush or a normal brush the best way is to do plenty of thin glazes, blowing between layers, you're much better of doing thin ones and it taking 2x as long rather than using something too thick and having to start again/ruining it. I'd also recommend using a thinner or something, the glazes will evaporate super fast between layers and it actually saves you a considerable amount of time!

More Ogre pictures in the next few days all.

Byron


By the way, all of the necron stuff is up on the ebay ling below in my sig if people are interested.

Hi all, more necron goodness coming up.








I'll snag some better pics when it's finished.

Byron

Mind giving us a rundown on colors you used to paint that necron lord?

Holy crap.. the rust on the necrons makes them look ancient.. nice

NIce!

Going for a brighter green on this vehicle? Looks good though, so do the warriors inside.
I painted up my first model trying to do the warscythe and OSL like you did but it came out a little different. (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/410768.page if you're interested)

Looking forward to seeing this one finished!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Mind giving us a rundown on colors you used to paint that necron lord?

Of course mate, it's at the bottom of this post, I might have missed some stuff out, don't worry about asking for bits I've missed, as there's bound to be some! I've included the barge as well in case people were curious, it's c&p'd from an e-mail so if the manner sees odd that's why.

Dreadnought96 wrote:Holy crap.. the rust on the necrons makes them look ancient.. nice

Cheers bud, Siple recipe on them, chainmail over a black base (airbrushed to keep it smooooth) then devlan mud all over, then mix pigment with water, sploosh it all over, wait for it to dry and then use a soft brush all over to leave it in the crevices. I do <3 my pigments!

Norn King wrote:NIce!

Thanks

Robbietobbie wrote:Going for a brighter green on this vehicle? Looks good though, so do the warriors inside.
I painted up my first model trying to do the warscythe and OSL like you did but it came out a little different. (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/410768.page if you're interested)

Looking forward to seeing this one finished!

I checked out your guy, he's looking good, I put a couple of ideas in the thread as well, you got any more coming?


Necron Lord

I started from a black base-coat, metallics were done exactly the same as the barge, but with a second edge-highlight of 50/50 chainmail/mithril. The glowing sections were done in the same was as the tubes on the turret-gun as well. The gold sections on his shoulder/head were based with dwarf bronze/calthan brown 50/50, to get a good base, then dwarf bronze/shining gold (all over). Next straight fro the pot badab black, trying to copy the shaded areas on the box as a guide. The edges/areas to catch the light were then highlighted with pure shining gold, thinned doown in a couple of layers, and a final edge-highlight of shining gold/mithril silver 50/50.

The cloak of was such an important and beautiful part of the model (my favourite part bit actually) that I wanted to make sure it really caught the eye, I left the black base-coat in the recesses to give it some nice contrast. I based it with tin bitz and scorched brown for coverage, and then covered all of this with pure tin bits. When it doubt with metallics in terms of highlighting I find it's helpful to do the base colour and then hold it directly under a desk lamp to see which parts catch the light, and keep things natural, I used this tip on the cloak, as I'd have no idea otherwise! I used dwarf bronze on all of the scales to catch the light, and then dwarf bronze and shining gold on the bits of those which caught the light the most. The last stage was a dwarf bronze/chainmail highlight on all of the edes.

Barge:
As far as painting the barge goes I worked from a fortress grey base, which works well for me as firstly if I miss anything it won't show through to the same extent as white, and secondly it means I can shade down the recesses/joins when doing the base-coat with the airbrush, rather than highlighting the in an additional stage, which is more time consuming. Most of the detail in the model is in the highlighting with the brush, this just gives a slightly more organic look to the green, rather than just being a flat colour, which I thought fitted with Necrons.

After the base-coat of 4:1 Dark Angels Green:Chaos black (concentrating more on the recesses, joins and undersides of the model I highlighted all edges with a Dark angels Green and Scorpion Green 3:1, then, concentrating more on the corners with each successive layer. The next layer was pure scorpion green, then I added a touch of sunburst yellow, and for the final 'dot' a little skull white. The metallics were done with a 50/50 Boltgun/chainmail base, on top of a black base-coat, then one layer of straight from the pot badab black all over. the glowing cracks in the sections of the barrel were painted skull white, then watered down scorpion green painted inside, no need to be neat, the next stage is to paint black on the barrels where the silver/green has poked over.

At this stage I baseed the glowing tubes of the gun skull white (best way to keep things bright), then used the airbrush to spray scorpion green in the mid-section, and dark angels green to the outside, with a final touch of scorpion green/sunburst yellow to the middle. The etallic edges were highlighted with chainmail.




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a bit of a break from the Necron pictures:

Great work on those ogres, I love that model (was really considering buying it even though I have no intention, for now, to start an ogres army).

I should get my barge, ark and lychguard this week as well as a box of warriors (something went wrong with me advance order apparantly -_-). Hoping to be able to convert some warriors into decent looking cryptekses

Robbietobbie wrote:Great work on those ogres, I love that model (was really considering buying it even though I have no intention, for now, to start an ogres army).

I should get my barge, ark and lychguard this week as well as a box of warriors (something went wrong with me advance order apparantly -_-). Hoping to be able to convert some warriors into decent looking cryptekses

Cheers bud, I was in the same boat; I'm painting this army up for someone else and last week I ordered 2 thundertusks, seriously the model is that nice that I'm basing an army around 2, regardless of how it plays!

The Necron warriors are great models, efficient simplicity, I love 'em, pleasure to paint as well, let me know how your conversions go, any excuse to keep things in plastic is a good one in my book!





Thoughts y'all?

Byron

Holy.... this is great stuff, I love the green lighting affect.

Looks good byronic! These greens look good too!

Byronic wrote:Thoughts y'all?

Byron

I loved the Anni barge and the Overlord, but the Arc just screams GREEEEEENNN!!!! The Anni barge was awesome because of the darker base and really nice highlights contrasted with the great metallics on the gun, but the ghost ark just loses all of that in a sea of bright green.

Ecstasy in Service wrote:Holy.... this is great stuff, I love the green lighting affect.

Cheers bud, I held back on it on the Ark as it's just a troop transport, but I was mighty tempted!

Robbietobbie wrote:Looks good byronic! These greens look good too!

Thanks, they're a bit luminous in the picture, I've got some (slightly) ore accurate ones below.

Maelstrom808 wrote:

Byronic wrote:Thoughts y'all?

Byron

I loved the Anni barge and the Overlord, but the Arc just screams GREEEEEENNN!!!! The Anni barge was awesome because of the darker base and really nice highlights contrasted with the great metallics on the gun, but the ghost ark just loses all of that in a sea of bright green.

I can see that it's not going to be to some people's tastes, but I thought I'd try something different, mainly I just couldn't bring yself to do edge-highlights in the same was as the barge, it would literally have taken me 4 or 5 days of just highlighting, so I went for a base-layer with a fair bit ofvariation and then a ore siple edge-highlight.

Cheers for being honest with your thoughts though, it's always good to get what people really think of particular models/schemes, I won't learn if people don't!



Possibly some thundertusk pictures on the way as well.

Byron

Thanks for the info on the lord. I agree also that the Ark isn't quite as striking as the Barge, but it's still pretty damn awesome!

I absolutely love that shade of green! Fantastic effect, I'm guessing it's airbrushed?
Haha this Necron Barge reminds me of those Droid carriers in The Phantom Menace.

Byronic wrote:I can see that it's not going to be to some people's tastes, but I thought I'd try something different, mainly I just couldn't bring yself to do edge-highlights in the same was as the barge, it would literally have taken me 4 or 5 days of just highlighting, so I went for a base-layer with a fair bit ofvariation and then a ore siple edge-highlight.

Cheers for being honest with your thoughts though, it's always good to get what people really think of particular models/schemes, I won't learn if people don't!

On not wanting to go through the highlighting thing, I can certainly understand the "Whew, finally done...wait, I have to do that how many more times? ...and that's the small one??" aspect of of it all

On the honest opinion thing, I write music and nothing in the world annoys me more than when I ask for feedback on a song, I get nothing but "Great job!" comments. Don't get me wrong, I like the encouragement, but if you don't ever get to hear the criticism, it makes it much harder to identify areas that can be improved on. I may not change something somebody doesn't like, but I will certainly take the time to examine it. I love the work that you done so far, easily some of the best on the forums, but that particular one just struck a bad note with me, so to speak.

congratulations on making GW's facebook wall

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Thanks for the info on the lord. I agree also that the Ark isn't quite as striking as the Barge, but it's still pretty damn awesome!

Cheers Lieutenant! I think if I'd sacrificed a week on it I could have had something special on my hands, it wouldn't have made it's money's worth on ebay though, and I'd probably have needed glasses by the end of all of that squinting!

dark6spectre wrote:I absolutely love that shade of green! Fantastic effect, I'm guessing it's airbrushed?
Haha this Necron Barge reminds me of those Droid carriers in The Phantom Menace.

Hi bud, yeah the base is done with the airbrush, however it looked pretty plain untill the final highlight of drybrushing, the primer I used leaves an *extremely* finely textures surface, which means with a fair bit of careful (very dry) drybrushing you can get a sneaky final all over highlight in areas you concentrate on.

Maelstrom808 wrote:

Byronic wrote:I can see that it's not going to be to some people's tastes, but I thought I'd try something different, mainly I just couldn't bring yself to do edge-highlights in the same was as the barge, it would literally have taken me 4 or 5 days of just highlighting, so I went for a base-layer with a fair bit ofvariation and then a ore siple edge-highlight.

Cheers for being honest with your thoughts though, it's always good to get what people really think of particular models/schemes, I won't learn if people don't!

On not wanting to go through the highlighting thing, I can certainly understand the "Whew, finally done...wait, I have to do that how many more times? ...and that's the small one??" aspect of of it all

On the honest opinion thing, I write music and nothing in the world annoys me more than when I ask for feedback on a song, I get nothing but "Great job!" comments. Don't get me wrong, I like the encouragement, but if you don't ever get to hear the criticism, it makes it much harder to identify areas that can be improved on. I may not change something somebody doesn't like, but I will certainly take the time to examine it. I love the work that you done so far, easily some of the best on the forums, but that particular one just struck a bad note with me, so to speak.

Honesty is the best policy mate, I can see you understand where I'm coming from, you've hit the nail on the head. (Although I will admit I do get a real kick people saying they like my stuff, or are going to do a scheme like mine etc; it makes the hours I put in worth it)

I hit the how many more stages internal monologue once for each of the 6+stages of edge-highlighting on the barge, and each cost me a small portion of my sanity!

Any of your criticism is always welcome in this thread, don't worry about causing offence, if it's constructive I'll take it!

Robbietobbie wrote:congratulations on making GW's facebook wall

Cheers Robbie, I was pretty stoked I must say!

Now if one of the few hundreds of likers would just go on eBay and bid on it...^_^

Probably a square base update coming up this evening guys, chaos-themed Ogre maneaters for the Ogre army, they arrived with a fair bit of conversion work on the, and I got to paint PUSTULES, YAY!

Byron


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Square-base time, more Ogres!

Ironguts first, chaos-themed man-eaters next:





Sorry about the pictures, better ones soon once they're based +100%finished!

Byron

Wow. That terrian looks better than GW's. Send your work to them and let them know what you can do. Never know what could happen.

Sweet looking necrons, it's really making me want to dive into them

Great job on the ogres. It really is an army that's just screaming at me to paint them. Seem like a whole lot of fun

Amazing Work on the necron stuff! I really can't wait to start working on mine. Keep it up!

More congratulations seem to be in order! Gz on making the what's new today blog you deserve it

Well done Byron!

The Grundel wrote:Wow. That terrian looks better than GW's. Send your work to them and let them know what you can do. Never know what could happen.

Ha, cheers mate, I think I'm about 20 years off being up to that standard, but I'm trying my hardest!

Cave_Dweller wrote:Sweet looking necrons, it's really making me want to dive into them

Tah Cave Dweller, it's a nice army I think, the troop stuff's very fast to paint, and the more expensive fancy things take more time, just how it should be! Not like dark eldar etc where it's the opposite.

Robbietobbie wrote:Great job on the ogres. It really is an army that's just screaming at me to paint them. Seem like a whole lot of fun

Do it, I'm going to be painting up my own this christmas, going to try for the lowest possible model count I can

acolite wrote:Amazing Work on the necron stuff! I really can't wait to start working on mine. Keep it up!

I'm doing a monolith for someone else now, I've just done 2 hours of gap-filling and prep on it, but it should be getting painted as soon as the client's o.k'd where it's currently at, different schee on this though - going for the turquoise alternate scheme that GW did.

Robbietobbie wrote:More congratulations seem to be in order! Gz on making the what's new today blog you deserve it

Thanks very much Robbie, first thing I've painted to be 'published' somewhere public or whatever you'd say, v pleased

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Well done Byron!

Cheers


Right, by this evening I will have more pictures up, of both the ogrey, wood elf, and possibly necron variety



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Another big chap, 95%done.

Those really look great byron. nice basing too!

Robbietobbie wrote:Those really look great byron. nice basing too!

Thanks very much Robbie


More slow 'n' steady progress on my own stuff, FINALLY starting to look mildly finished/cohesive, as normal I had soe colour-matching issues, but I've learned from the mistake and am now writing down every recipe I use from this point forward! I''m having real issues with the eagle's feathers, which are a pretty fussy and thankless task, I'm sure there's a far easier way to sculpt feathers out there, but I've no idea what it is...

There's a small chance that I'll be finished in time, it's going to be very very close though, also I need to re-do the brown on the first 7(front rank) of the first unit of archers I did, which'll cut into things somewhat.

Pictures:


Thoughts welcome as ever, I'm debating what to do for next month's 300points: I might do the last 2 units of 10 archers, it'll be a little bit boring, but once that's underway it'll only be 3 units of dryads then 100%funsies of characters and treemen, we'll see. I'm pretty busy finishing off Ogres and a Necron monolith pre december, but I'll have much more time after that as I'm taking a little break to work on a few ideas I've had/have an actual holiday.

Byron

Back to the big chaps:



They're not finished yet, but well on their way, apologies for crappy shots/the state of my hand!

Byron

Nice pants Looks good byron, I really like the archers on the last page, those cloaks and hoods look really good

Robbietobbie wrote:Nice pants Looks good byron, I really like the archers on the last page, those cloaks and hoods look really good

Cheers Robbie, the characters get mighty-fancy highlighted versions of the troop's trousers



All but done on him now, betteer pics once he's snowed!

Byron

Very well painted Byron. Love the blood effects and MC Hammer pants.

However, MOAR NECRONS!

The blood splatter on Bragg looks incredible!

Byronic wrote:

Cheers bud, Siple recipe on them, chainmail over a black base (airbrushed to keep it smooooth) then devlan mud all over, then mix pigment with water, sploosh it all over, wait for it to dry and then use a soft brush all over to leave it in the crevices. I do <3 my pigments!

This part I didnt understand.

Which pigments are you using? Vallejo?
And what do you mean with sploosh it all over? Really love your rusty results and I want to copy that!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Very well painted Byron. Love the blood effects and MC Hammer pants.

However, MOAR NECRONS!

Not being one to disobey my commander/Lt. I may well have something of interest for you tomorrow

Norn King wrote:The blood splatter on Bragg looks incredible!

Cheers bud, it's very rarely I'm properly pleased with anything I've done for more than an hour, and the pleasure of this lasted at least 2 before I started wondering how I could do it better

When I do my Ogres for yself over xmas they're going to be bloody as hell!

Hive2003 wrote:

Byronic wrote:

Cheers bud, Siple recipe on them, chainmail over a black base (airbrushed to keep it smooooth) then devlan mud all over, then mix pigment with water, sploosh it all over, wait for it to dry and then use a soft brush all over to leave it in the crevices. I do <3 my pigments!

This part I didnt understand.

Which pigments are you using? Vallejo?
And what do you mean with sploosh it all over? Really love your rusty results and I want to copy that!

No worries Hive, cheers for the question: I'll do my best to break it down for you; any more clarifications you'd like don't hesitate to ask, my textual communication skills over the internet are pretty limited so I'm sure there'll be a fair few more examples of my horrific sentence structure/grammar/missing of words won't help readers!

Step one: Chainmail + Mithril - all over (a black basecoat as with all silver stuff)

Step two: Devlan mud, all over, twice, don't let it pool, and let it dry between completely (really important, can't stress this enough)

Step three: Mix up pigment (I used Vallejo rusty-oxide type one)) with water, put it wherever you like, don't worry if it looks bad/too much, we'll sort that in step 5!

Step four: WAITTTTTTT - let the pigment dry, completely, it'll lighten as it does, when it's the same colour as it is in the pot - even in the deepest recesses it's dry.

Step five (magic step): grab your not-too precious brush of choice and give the models a thorough 'drybrush' with no paint on the brush, this should remove a lot of the excess, and leave the rest in the crevices/gaps, if this isn't enough removal you can lick/wet a finger and rub it off manually, or even use a brush, untill they're sealed pigments are workable.

Step six (optional): Seal your chaps, varnish/alcohol/whatever - stops pigments from being removed, in this instance I didn't seal them because no one's going to be picking a ghost arm up by a necrons head, and if they are it's not pigment damage they need to worry about!

I think that's it: I hope that's of some help!

Byron

Byronic wrote:

I think that's it: I hope that's of some help!

Byron

Wow, thank you very Much!
I will try this out as soon as possible. Seems to be easy.

One more question, do you have airbrushed all of the green layers on your barge or were there brushes involved? I am asking because I am in search for a quick, easy and nice looking technique for my Necron Army. I have no longer the time to paint every single mini with brushes...

The metallics on Bragg's weapon are amazing, any tips for getting results like that?

(as an aside, how did you do the wood? it's very subtle and understated and it looks great)

Hive2003 wrote:

Byronic wrote:

I think that's it: I hope that's of some help!

Byron

Wow, thank you very Much!
I will try this out as soon as possible. Seems to be easy.

One more question, do you have airbrushed all of the green layers on your barge or were there brushes involved? I am asking because I am in search for a quick, easy and nice looking technique for my Necron Army. I have no longer the time to paint every single mini with brushes...

The barge I used a brush for all of the highlighting, airbrush was solely for the base layer (which I shaded more towards the recesses, simply by spraying ore of the fairly dark paint mix of chaos black/dark angels green there, this is why I started from a light basecoat, airbrushes are as good for shading down as they are for highlighting up!)

You could get a great result for the barge drybrushing it as I did with the ark though, big brush over the base-layer with barely any paint on, can't go wrong

A Kvlt Ghost wrote:The metallics on Bragg's weapon are amazing, any tips for getting results like that?

(as an aside, how did you do the wood? it's very subtle and understated and it looks great)

Thanks very much Ghost, which ones are you wanting to know about, brass/weapon/gutplate/all of them?

@ Lt. This is for you bud, better pics coming soon once the client's O.K'd the job:






Byron

Something big for you all

nice work! really good job on the monolith eventhough i'm not a big fan of the colourscheme (still really well executed though). And impressive skullvayne manse! Like it better than the 'eavy metal one

Robbietobbie wrote:nice work! really good job on the monolith eventhough i'm not a big fan of the colourscheme (still really well executed though). And impressive skullvayne manse! Like it better than the 'eavy metal one

Thanks very much bud, here's some mildly better pics complete with decals just in case that'll improve the scheme

That actually does make it look better, but still I'm not convinced. Just seems to bright for necrons (that's just my taste though, you did a good job on the painting).
Can't believe I only just noticed you shortened the flux arcs

Awesome lith. Did you do your drybrushing technique for the edge highlights?

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Awesome lith. Did you do your drybrushing technique for the edge highlights?

Cheers Lt. Yeah I did, but I then went back in and did a couple of *very* careful badab black washes in the cracks to re-define things

It's not quite that bright in r/l, and it's more weathered, but the only way I could find to get it to actually look mildly turquoise was to put it against a blue background; I'll try it with a grey/black one tomorrow if these stormclouds clear.

Byron

Great job!
Bravo!

octavus wrote:Great job!
Bravo!

Tah bud

I took a lot of shots of Ogres today, I'm still cobbling together unit pictures, but here's a load to give you an idea of what the army looks like, the movement trays definitely add something and keep stuff looking a little bit more tidy I think.

Link to army shot, because it's wiiiide! : http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq59/I-hatephotobucket/Warhammer%20Portfolio/ary-1.jpg

Congratulations again! Somebody at GW likes you

Damn Byron, that's an epic army there.
If I had to complain, I think that the beard on the last guy is a little too unnaturally white IMO. He gives Gandalf the White a run for his money.

How do you pick out all those super fine details on things like that pouch on the last guy? Is it more drybrushing or are you actually laying down 100 brush strokes on something as small as that pouch there?

Robbietobbie wrote:Congratulations again! Somebody at GW likes you

Cheers Robbie, you saw before I did, I might have missed it as well, thanks very much!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Damn Byron, that's an epic army there.
If I had to complain, I think that the beard on the last guy is a little too unnaturally white IMO. He gives Gandalf the White a run for his money.

How do you pick out all those super fine details on things like that pouch on the last guy? Is it more drybrushing or are you actually laying down 100 brush strokes on something as small as that pouch there?

Lotsandlots of brush strokes


Right, I could really do with some thoughts on the below problem chaps, hit me up with your yays/nays!

I've painted up a unit of Necron Warriors, they're all done, then I got to putting in the rods and a not sure if they work, please give me your opinion, the other option is to shade them like the piping at the front, but I'm worried that it may be too uch of the same thing (I can't test as I don't have any spare rods!).

Apologies for the desperate plea, but I need to take pictures toorrow orning to put in the auction on ebay.

Here's the pictures with/without:



Come to my rescue internet warriors!

Byron

Awesome work there man.

It works to me - BUT, since you seem to have an AB handy, why not just ab them a nice neon green and fade to white in the middle? It works now, but, that would be another level I think...

MajorTom11 wrote:It works to me - BUT, since you seem to have an AB handy, why not just ab them a nice neon green and fade to white in the middle? It works now, but, that would be another level I think...

That's exactly what I was thinking bud, however it's been pointed out that as they're going on eBay people may want the 'classic' rods to go with their current armies if they're adding to an existing collection. I'm still completely torn.

Any other opinions chaps?

Byron

AB some plastic rod and provide both options?

Arakasi wrote:AB some plastic rod and provide both options?

I don't have any and I've already listed the auction :{

I've put up this picture, and stated I can paint the rods if the buyer wishes, hopefully that'll keep any prospective bidders happy:




And secondly a few more views of the manse, again there's more pics in my photobucket, I don't want to spam the thread too much!



A real hotchpotch of stuff is going to be forthcoming in the next few weeks, I'm trying to make space in my drawers

As usual, you make me want to throw away my brushes in despair. Great work.

In your defence, your ebay necrons will probably absolutely wreck almost anyone else's painting, so who cares, rods or not, they make most other crons look like gak so why not go full hog lol

Norn King wrote:As usual, you make me want to throw away my brushes in despair. Great work.

:| that's not why I spend all of this time squinting and carefully painting but-cheeks on 32mm high soldiers! Thanks though bud, as ever if you want to know how I've done anything just shout out.

MajorTom11 wrote:In your defence, your ebay necrons will probably absolutely wreck almost anyone else's painting, so who cares, rods or not, they make most other crons look like gak so why not go full hog lol

Thanks so much mate, very nice of you to say!

Right, a big update for you chaps and chapesses, this is straight up copied and pasted from another forum, apologies for mass producing it, but I'm not re-wording something this long!

Hello internet, as I've got a little break from commission work I'm making an effort to clear out some of the stuff that's accumulated due to hardcore hoarding over the past year or so, those bargains I couldn't resist on eBay, or (more commonly) those half-baked ideas that only got to the buying a battalion box from Maelstrom in a sale stage.

The first of these projects is a Daemon Army that I've had for a bit, I thought I'd log my progress here a) So that it my be of some help to other people
b) An an insentive (please feel free to bully me) to actually finish this project.
c) I'm looking to improve the quality of my stuff, also I'll probably be selling this so it's a bit of a shameless self-plug ops:

Firstly here's the rules I've set myself:

1 I am not doing it 7 days on the trot (as I've got some stuff yet to arrive in the post, and I'm away on the weekend), plus mainly I just don't think I could hack it, also it's not all assembled yet.
2 1 unit - 1 day, no longer apart from finishing touches, both to keep it fast, and because starting and finishing something in one day is good for feedback loops as I'll actually see some progression.
3 The timing isn't to include assembly, as I am VERY slow at putting models together/de-seal lining them, I had to build and base 5 Bletters this morning before I started, it took me 50minutes...
4 I am aiming to at least have the units to a good tabletop standard, but nothing over the top in terms of quality/time put in, a little more on chars, but nothing special.

I went to work on the bloodletter (25of them) unit today, my aim was to attempt to keep the mood dark, even if the colours had to be a little bit brighter, pictures speak much better than words so here they are, I'll get some better ones soon hopefully, desk shots are awful, hence me having so many in an attempt to convey the colour, which failed.



2 main questions,
a) Would blood on the weapons/claws a la champion throughout the unit look OTT
b) I am planning on glossing the horns, there's a nice example of this in the army book, any reasons why I shouldn't?
and 2 more....
c) What do you think of the unit? Have I just wasted a very long day, apart from the forging of a brilliant arse-groove into my painting chair?
d) Would a tutorial be of interest to anyone? It'd be pretty wordy/long, so I thought I'd ask before I go to the effort of writing an unreadable bullet pointed list of unconventionally organised grammatical errors.

As long as it's constructive hit me with your criticisms, I don't mind if the first line is 'These are poo' as long as there's a point afterwards.

Thanks for looking,

Byron

Their skin looks too flat to me. Everything else looks good, but the skin just doesn't work for me.

a) I don't think it would be OTT
b) Sounds good to me
c) Read above.
d) Not me, never plan on painting these guys!

Might not even sound like advice, but that's about the best I can give

a: blood for the blood god!
b: guess you can try
c: I personally think the bloodletters could use some more colours, some brighter reds as the models seem a bit 'dull' though they're really well painted!
not sure what to make of the green hellswords though hehe

Do you mind to describe how you have done the OSL on the necron warriors. It seems effective but yet not too hard to achieve.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Their skin looks too flat to me. Everything else looks good, but the skin just doesn't work for me.

a) I don't think it would be OTT
b) Sounds good to me
c) Read above.
d) Not me, never plan on painting these guys!

Might not even sound like advice, but that's about the best I can give

That's spot on as ever bud, cheers!

Consider it noted, when I get to the khorne chars I'll try and add some depth, I'll also get some pictures of these chaps against a black background or something and see if that helps everything out.

Requiem wrote:a: blood for the blood god!
b: guess you can try
c: I personally think the bloodletters could use some more colours, some brighter reds as the models seem a bit 'dull' though they're really well painted!
not sure what to make of the green hellswords though hehe

Cheers mate, this is all gold in terms of helping me improve, I went for green as it's a nice contrast, and I thought I needed soe other colours in there, the other option was doing them firey, but I thought that might be a bit too samey, what do you think? If these guys sell well there may be another batch of them to do in the future, who knows!

Hive2003 wrote:Do you mind to describe how you have done the OSL on the necron warriors. It seems effective but yet not too hard to achieve.

Sure bud, I go over it a bit in page 4, but if you want more specifics just let me know and I'll sort out a step by step.

Byron

Byronic wrote:

Hive2003 wrote:Do you mind to describe how you have done the OSL on the necron warriors. It seems effective but yet not too hard to achieve.

Sure bud, I go over it a bit in page 4, but if you want more specifics just let me know and I'll sort out a step by step.

Byron

Call me blind, but I couldnt find how you have done the OsL on your necs step by step...:(

It's the same method as I used for the tubing roughly bud.

Base the area in dheneb stone/skull white (the only true way to get things nice and bright), I used the airbrush and brush for the following steps, but you can just as easily (and more neatly, although more tie consuming) do it with just a brush and glazes, either way I water down the paint with thinner rather than water, and add a drop of vallejo glaze medium.

Start nearly at the brightest and work to dark, leaving the area that you will put your final brightest highlight on bare and white.

Step one: Scorpion Green + Sunburst yellow 50.50

Step two: shade down with SG + Dark Angels Green 50.50

Step three : 25.75 SGAG

Step four: DAG

Step five: DAG + Chaos Black 75:25

Final Step: Go back to your highlight area (which is hopefully still white at the very tip) and add Skull white to step one mix.

With the warriors glow I did a quicker version of this, going from mid tone to highlight, so step two to one to final step from above, then on the tubing I darkened the ends of the tubes with step four and five.

I hope that helps, if anything needs clarification just let me know.

Byron

Auction is ending on sunday by the way guys, get bidding so I can buy myself yet more models that I'll never find tie to paint for christmas....

I say without any exagerration, that's some of the best chaos-oriented painting I've ever seen. Your colors are frankly mind-boggling. They look so good I think I'd have trouble playing with them if they were mine.

Do you take commissions by chance? I'm building up a IG army but sadly don't have enough time to paint the entire thing myself. Its going to require some conversion work also which I'm planning to do. Am looking for field a Tallarn-themed IG army. but I'm definitely going to let someone with more painting skills than I tackle Al'Rahem. Send me a msg if you're interested in possible commission work. Cheers mate.

Regards,
Ignatius J R

dmcs414 wrote:I say without any exagerration, that's some of the best chaos-oriented painting I've ever seen. Your colors are frankly mind-boggling. They look so good I think I'd have trouble playing with them if they were mine.

Do you take commissions by chance? I'm building up a IG army but sadly don't have enough time to paint the entire thing myself. Its going to require some conversion work also which I'm planning to do. Am looking for field a Tallarn-themed IG army. but I'm definitely going to let someone with more painting skills than I tackle Al'Rahem. Send me a msg if you're interested in possible commission work. Cheers mate.

Regards,
Ignatius J R

Thanks very much bud! I've sent you a PM, and here's some more pictures just for your kind comments , also asome of what'll be getting the treatment next:









(not sure why the matrix entered their movement tray.....)


Thoughts on the unit filler/herald on the front right? I realise the filler's a bit generic, but if any devotee of chaos is going to find time for a cuddle whilst marching to war it's these gals.

nice! can´t wait to see how you paint your pink horrors and daemonettes considering your average models they'll be awesome and i'll be begging for your recipe hehe
the crusher is cool! i found it hard to come up with a somewhat unique way to paint them but am happy with my result (you can see pics in my gallery if you want )

Requiem wrote:nice! can´t wait to see how you paint your pink horrors and daemonettes considering your average models they'll be awesome and i'll be begging for your recipe hehe
the crusher is cool! i found it hard to come up with a somewhat unique way to paint them but am happy with my result (you can see pics in my gallery if you want )

He looks great bud, has he got a coat of varnish on him? I think the slightly satin finish works really nicely on daemons, fits with their 'other world-ness'

Byronic wrote:He looks great bud, has he got a coat of varnish on him? I think the slightly satin finish works really nicely on daemons, fits with their 'other world-ness'

Thanks! Nope at that point it didn't have a varnish on, but it does now! bit shiny now, so probably gonna use some matt varnish from vallejo on it to dull down the shine, works like a charm!

now get painting!

I have been painting bud don't worry!

I've broken my one unit 1 day rule though; I used heavy glazes on the pink horrors and flamers today and vallejo glaze edium takes a long time to dry if you use a lot, so I'll be completing both units on day three, I'll get some pictures then.

Byron

Byronic wrote:It's the same method as I used for the tubing roughly bud.

Base the area in dheneb stone/skull white (the only true way to get things nice and bright), I used the airbrush and brush for the following steps, but you can just as easily (and more neatly, although more tie consuming) do it with just a brush and glazes, either way I water down the paint with thinner rather than water, and add a drop of vallejo glaze medium.

Start nearly at the brightest and work to dark, leaving the area that you will put your final brightest highlight on bare and white.

Step one: Scorpion Green + Sunburst yellow 50.50

Step two: shade down with SG + Dark Angels Green 50.50

Step three : 25.75 SGAG

Step four: DAG

Step five: DAG + Chaos Black 75:25

Final Step: Go back to your highlight area (which is hopefully still white at the very tip) and add Skull white to step one mix.

With the warriors glow I did a quicker version of this, going from mid tone to highlight, so step two to one to final step from above, then on the tubing I darkened the ends of the tubes with step four and five.

I hope that helps, if anything needs clarification just let me know.

Byron

Great thx! Trying it out right now.

And you really used Devlan Mud on your warriors?? Doesnt look like....

Byronic wrote:I used heavy glazes on the pink horrors and flamers today and vallejo glaze edium takes a long time to dry if you use a lot

Would a hair dryer speed things up?

What kind of self-respecting man has a hair dryer lying around? Get outta here.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:What kind of self-respecting man has a hair dryer lying around? Get outta here.

Those who have a girlfriend!

In that case, what kind of self-respecting man has a girlfriend!

Hive2003 wrote:

Great thx! Trying it out right now.

And you really used Devlan Mud on your warriors?? Doesnt look like....

Yeah bud, warriors in the ark I used devlan mud mixed with vallejo glaze medium (magic stuff)

Warriors in the pic with scarab swarms I used 2 or3 parts asurmian blue 1 part devlan mud and 1 part glaze medium.

Arakasi wrote:Would a hair dryer speed things up?

I'm not sure bud, I think the heat may proote 'tidal marks' when it dries, not entirely sure though.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:What kind of self-respecting man has a hair dryer lying around? Get outta here.

Haha, I've got less than 2cm of hair on my head now, but considering the length it used to be...

Hive2003 wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:What kind of self-respecting man has a hair dryer lying around? Get outta here.

Those who have a girlfriend!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:In that case, what kind of self-respecting man has a girlfriend!

Haha, maybe spending the amount of time I do paintign 32mm high toy soldiers a girlfriend would sort me out a little!

Ummm... You know you can blow cool air through a hairdryer right?

Not all hairdryers can, I know mine can't

sick dragons dude

You're incredibly prolific. Keep up the good works.

I'd like to ignore the hair-dryer semantics above I can't resist though, needless to say despite having a shaved head and being technophobic I am capable of working one (I think :s), I'll errata my above statement to "unnatural acceleration of the drying process" ^_^

Joske De Veteraan wrote:sick dragons dude

Cheers bud!

aosol wrote:You're incredibly prolific. Keep up the good works.

Haha, thanks, I like to keep busy ^_^

I hope you've all had a good Christmas!

I've decided to make the most of the small holiday break by speed painting (by my standards at least) an Ogre army, I've wanted to do one for a while given how much I enjoyed painting one for someone over the past few months.

I'm doing this ary pretty much entirely going on how much I like the models, so the build's going to be far from 'optimised', basically I'm going for the lowest model count and the largest aount of big furry beasties possible!

Basically My list comprises of:
2 Thundertusk
2x4 Mournfang (fluffy I know)
2 x9 Bulls
LvL4
LvL2 - (firebelly or beasts user)
BSB

I'm going to be assembling and painting all Ogres except the characters as one lot, I'm trying to push my painting by a) Painting them fast and b) Painting them differently from my usual style, I'm going for bright warm colours (except for trousers) and fairly obvious highlights. Concerning the relative speed I' cutting every corner I can in order to try and get them out quickly.



These are my 2 testers, please let me know what you think, I'm particularly curious as to whether you think the gut plates work, and whether black or brown base-rims would look best. Also what corners you think I've obviously cut. All criticism is very valuable though, as in a couple of days once it's all assembled I'll be doing all 26 Ogres, and once I've started there's no going back!



Apologies for my faulty M key and crappy pics!

Byron

I think they look good! Not so keen on the bellyplates though, I think it's the red that isn't working for me

Robbietobbie wrote:I think they look good! Not so keen on the bellyplates though, I think it's the red that isn't working for me

A few people have said this; what do you think of it now it's weathered up Robbie?

Here's a couple of pics of the guys tattoo'd, bloodied and weathered up, also one of them with a mountain sybol on his gut plate. I definitely want to weather their plates, but I'm not particularly pleased with how they came out, any thoughts or suggestions here would be great.

I'm pretty much decided on the scheme, I'm trying to go for using split complementary colours, with the main being the blue/green of their trousers, and then reds and oranges (gut plates, blood/rust, bases respectively) for the complementary's, I've not done this type of thing before, so it's a bit of a leap into the unknown.

I might give the the same tattoo on the other biceps, but I love the musculature of their arms, and it seems almost a shame to cover it up/a waste of one of the easier and ore obvious areas to highlight.

All thoughts welcome, I'm now going to spend a few days taking off seal lines and doing some construction, it's only the details that I've got left to decide.



Basically:
What do you think?
Is the blood too much?
Tattoos O.K?
Any ideas on the weathering?
Where on earth are all of my 40mm bases?

Byron

Such amazing details. I could never do as good as this! Great job.

Don't listen to them Byron! They look great
too much blood, too much blood... is that even possible?

I think this paint scheme is really cool, and unique as far as I can recall. The red on the belly plates at first appeared very nice on it's own, but then seemed to class a bit with the red of the very nicely gored hands. However, once you stared darkening this red on the belly plates and weathering them, I think all the elements came together and blended nicely (perhaps the lighting in the earlier pics was just brighter?).

The black tattoos are a really nice touch as well, and do not detract or clash with what you have already done. I would lastly note, I really like the pants. Good work. Cheers.

They're great. *queue Tony the Tiger*

Ogryn wrote:Such amazing details. I could never do as good as this! Great job.

Thanks very much, glad you like them!

Requiem wrote:Don't listen to them Byron! They look great
too much blood, too much blood... is that even possible?

Apparently so, I find it hard to knowwhen to stop sometimes

Astroman wrote:I think this paint scheme is really cool, and unique as far as I can recall. The red on the belly plates at first appeared very nice on it's own, but then seemed to class a bit with the red of the very nicely gored hands. However, once you stared darkening this red on the belly plates and weathering them, I think all the elements came together and blended nicely (perhaps the lighting in the earlier pics was just brighter?).

The black tattoos are a really nice touch as well, and do not detract or clash with what you have already done. I would lastly note, I really like the pants. Good work. Cheers.

Thanks very much for the feedback Astroman, I'd hoped the weathering would sort the out somewhat; however I think I ay try using some pigments or something on them when I embark on the epic session or 5 when I paint the lot, luckily the gut-plates go on last.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:They're great. *queue Tony the Tiger*

Cheers Lt.

I'm still assebling guys (and painting daemons...) so no more exciting updates for a while.

I hate seal lines.....

Just a quickie chaps, did this guy yesterday for eBay:



Any thoughts?

That looks awesome! should fetch a nice price on ebay. I absolutely love the model, it's on my to-do list and will be for some time I guess

Very nice! What a great model, too.

Robbietobbie wrote:That looks awesome! should fetch a nice price on ebay. I absolutely love the model, it's on my to-do list and will be for some time I guess

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Very nice! What a great model, too.

Cheers chaps, the model is outstanding, it's one of the best of 2011, the only minor complaint about it is the amount of time it takes to paint the bone-bits, bit everything else about it is brilliant; assembly isn't too time consuming, because of its pose you get LOADS of opportunity for creative basing, also it ust looks incredibly evil!

A few round-basers for you 40kers out there, I'll get some good shots with eyes and base-rims done on monday, these guys were done to a fast gaming standard, so the aim was a simple but effective scheme and clean execution; the red's not photographed at all but it's got more depth than the picture shows:

Nice looking Terminators there! I know what you mean about photographing red though they still look brilliant.

Do you end up with more Fantasy than 40k commissions then? Also are you up to more Ogre painting? Or is this the end of them?

Brilliant work!
The terrorgiest was amazingly well done, you even went in to paint texturing for leather on the rear leg (only place large enough to see).

I can't wait to see the daemonettes, but I am wondering how you did that gore effect for the first Cockatrice?

The terrorgiest is looking superb.

BloodGenisis wrote: Brilliant work!
The terrorgiest was amazingly well done, you even went in to paint texturing for leather on the rear leg (only place large enough to see).

I can't wait to see the daemonettes, but I am wondering how you did that gore effect for the first Cockatrice?

It's done in a horribly fiddly way using vallejo liquid mask, and stretching it and superglueing each end, however I've been recommended using UHU glue instead

GiraffeX wrote:The terrorgiest is looking superb.

Cheers bud


The VC release continues; I'm going to be very much sick with etherealness by the end of it I should think!

Heads up to anyone thinking of getting these: they are very time consuming models, I was planning on doing a quick job, but they took me double what I was expecting them to, plus they're not that fun to put together, I like the sculpts, but in terms of assembly they're just not in line with the standard I've grown to expect from GW in the past couple of years with their plastics.

I'm still pretty pleased with how they came out:





They're up on eBay of course.

All thoughts welcome as ever!

Really nice job on the cloth parts!

Robbietobbie wrote:Really nice job on the cloth parts!

Cheers Robbie

Finished 2 of these guys late last night, just the coven throne to go now, to be frank I'm pooing myself; it's a pretty intiidating kit, especially given the difficulties I had with the smoke on the firebelly!

That's the VC initial release wave done for me, phew!

Awesome! I was hoping you were going to paint that flying chariot blood cauldron thing. Amazing work there, wow. Approved.

Wow that's some really nice work! I'd be surprised if that didnt make the blog as well (gz for your zombiedragon making it btw). The cauldron of blood really stands out from the model even though all of it is really well done!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Awesome! I was hoping you were going to paint that flying chariot blood cauldron thing. Amazing work there, wow. Approved.

Robbietobbie wrote:Wow that's some really nice work! I'd be surprised if that didnt make the blog as well (gz for your zombiedragon making it btw). The cauldron of blood really stands out from the model even though all of it is really well done!

Cheers very much guys

The second Wight king's up on eBay, here's a pic of him:


I'm also working on a slaughtermaster which my client has decided to have leading his Ogres, it's got a fair bit of greenstuffing on it which I found difficult I must admit!

Another great job, on both models! Your ogres really are some of the best I've seen (and I've seen quite a bit now that i'm figuring out how I'm going to paint my own ogres). I PM'ed you btw!

Robbietobbie wrote:Another great job, on both models! Your ogres really are some of the best I've seen (and I've seen quite a bit now that i'm figuring out how I'm going to paint my own ogres). I PM'ed you btw!

I'm so sorry Robbie, dakka never lets mestayed log in so I didn't notice them, my apologies!


As with quite a lot of the stuff I do there's a lot of stages, which get faster towards the end, and about half of the work is in the 'prep' stage.

Prep

1 Halfords grey primer
2 Chaos Black all over
3 Halfords Grey primer from 45degrees
4 Skull white from on top

Painting
5 Watered down codex grey, dheneb stone and chaos black mixed with vallejo glaze medium all over (mix it to the colour of codex grey, I just add the other paints to get a foundation colour in there for strong pigments
6 Ogryn Flesh wash in recesses
7 Re-paint step 5, leaving wash in recesses
8 Add Fortress Grey
9 Add dheneb Stone


If you want a much quicker version I'd do something along the lines of
1
(2 if you want bright highlights)
6(all over), if you want less red more dark use devlan mud instead.
7
8/9

Hope that's of some help mate, sorry again, I didn't mean to seem rude!

Byron

Thnx for that description and no worries about not noticing the PM, I'm not exactly in a hurry (got a TK casket of souls to finish as well as some dreadfleet stuff before I start the ogres). I need to strip the paint off most of the ogres before I start anyway so no problem. Kinda figured you probably didnt even notice the PM.

Since i don't have any glaze medium and I'm not particularly good at mixing paints consistently I'll probably just paint on two thin layers of codex. The rest of the steps I plan on following. So washing with ogryn, repainting the codex grey and then paint on codex grey with fortress grey and as a final layer codex grey, fortress grey and dheneb.. Do you think that'll work? Good thing is I have all those paints so that helps :p

Thanks for the rundown on how you did them!

I'd drop the dheneb stone if you're not involving it in any of the previous layers, it's quite a distinct colour, just go for pure fortress for the final highlight (or with a bit of codex to keep ot from being too bright)

Good luck mate, let me know how it goes!

Nice

brilliant work as ever! very nice

wow the undead do look great and the do love the rust on the Wight king's sword and actually prefer your covern throne to the 'eavy metal one

Alright thnx for the tip! I'll try it out on one of the ogres that doesnt need stripping

Might be a little boring though only using grey... Do you think that adding a little shadow grey to the mix and shading with badab in stead of ogryn would give a nice (blue-ish) effect to the grey?


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I went ahead and did a testmodel with some shadowgrey added to the mix.. let me know what you think! (it look's darker on the picture than it really is)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/425990.page#3842006

Thanks very much guys

@Robbie

I'd avoid badab-it's a bit severe, maybe use devlan mud instead.

If you're going for a blueish tint you could always use a 3:1devlan/asumrian blue wash or something

Awesome. That ogre guy reminds me of Hannibal.

Really great looking necromancer. Very sinister. I think he looks better on foot then on the back of the coven throne.

How do you do the little scratchs all over the armour and weapons? Or is it simply a really fine brush ?

You have some amazing work in this tread. Glad I found it!!!

Really liking the cloaks you're doing on these guys! Looks very.. well.. undead

I did go for devlan instead of badab 'cause I too figured it might be a little much. Do you think it turned out well? I've added a bloody handprint on the ogre's face and some snow on his shoulders and head since taking the picture. Love trying out all this new stuff

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Awesome. That ogre guy reminds me of Hannibal.

Yay, that's the type of reaction I was going for

Zwan1One wrote:Really great looking necromancer. Very sinister. I think he looks better on foot then on the back of the coven throne.

How do you do the little scratchs all over the armour and weapons? Or is it simply a really fine brush ?

You have some amazing work in this tread. Glad I found it!!!

Cheers mate, it's a pretty fine brush but that's by no means the most important thing when you're trying to do stuff like this, it's taken me ages to work out but here's what it comes down to:

1.) a brush with a fine *point* not the tiniest brush ever, the pointiest!
2.) you need your paint at the right consistency, and choose a bright one! I used mithril, thinned to 'milk' consistency, and not too much on the brush
3.) a) Take your brush fro palette to model FAST! with such a tiny bit of paint at the end the moment you put paint on the brush it'll start to dry.
b) Secondly if your room has the radiators turned up to 11 the drying tie on the end of the brush will be pretty much halved! Sit in a coat if it helps, in a freezing cold room

All of the above goes for freehand banners also. Additionally if it's on a nice darkened background the scratches will show up better, it's all about the paint consistency, I found it takes me 2 or 3 attempts to get it right where i do one scratch and it doesn't work, but once it's right just keep things swift and steady and you'll do half the area with one brushload.

Robbietobbie wrote:Really liking the cloaks you're doing on these guys! Looks very.. well.. undead

I did go for devlan instead of badab 'cause I too figured it might be a little much. Do you think it turned out well? I've added a bloody handprint on the ogre's face and some snow on his shoulders and head since taking the picture. Love trying out all this new stuff

It's looking solid mate, only a couple of crits: 1, I'd suggest matt varnishing (or dullcote if you can get hold of some, it's magic!) the entire model, his trousers are a tady shiny, it'll also protect it for gaming use, and secondly (post matt) get some gloss varnish or taiya clear red (x27 I think, it makes blood look amazing, I used it on the guts on the butcher) and aybe also tamiya 'smoke' (I think x17) I used this underneath the red to make it darker, they're both mega glossy and the best blood products around!

I'll have another update pretty soon

like.... NOW!

For those of you who think that I never paint anything for myself


Testers:


Bulls/'Guts




The entire army (actually with one spare Ogre+Mournfang)


The thundertusks are next, once they're both done and my core are finished that'll be 1100points, originally this was meant to be a speed painting project but I like the models/went overboard on details for that to be true any more, the core took me 4 days (fairly solid days at that) to get to where they are currently+an hour and a bit to do the tattoos on all of them, so once all of the gut plates are weathered they'll have taken the best part of 5 days I guess.

Nice job! those ogres look splendid.. Curious to see what you'll do with these thundertusks

my model actually hasn't been varnished yet ^^

Robbietobbie wrote:Nice job! those ogres look splendid.. Curious to see what you'll do with these thundertusks

my model actually hasn't been varnished yet ^^

I'll be getting some pictures up of this tonight

even though its only the head/tusks:

awesome!

Oh my.. looking forward to seeing the complete model

Byronic wrote:

I wish Id know how you do that osl!!
seriously, superb work!!!

Funny Flachzange should bring up the crons. I was just going to ask what you used for the rust. Was it that pigment powder stuff? I got some from Secret Weapon but I haven't used it yet.

Also, those tusks are looking fantastic

I knew it was you! I just commented on your ogres on the stronghold a few days ago

Anyway I am loving the coven throne

Lt. Coldfire wrote:Funny Flachzange should bring up the crons. I was just going to ask what you used for the rust. Was it that pigment powder stuff? I got some from Secret Weapon but I haven't used it yet.

Also, those tusks are looking fantastic

Cheers Lt, it's Vallejo Burnt Sienna

Johnny-Crass wrote:I knew it was you! I just commented on your ogres on the stronghold a few days ago

Anyway I am loving the coven throne

Tah Johnny, I still owe you a tattoo tutorial I believe!

Anyways here's a tutorial on how to paint builds for y'all.


Painting Buildings (nearly) Start to Finish/Skullvane Manse

So this is a big one (in more ways than one)! Firstly my camera ran out of battery about 2/3 of the way and given that I was trying to assemble and paint this gargantuan piece in one day I didn't have time to wait for it to charge, I'll do my very best to fill in the gaps though.

Here's a picture of the box to let you know what we're dealing with in terms of size: kitten included for scale...



And Inside:




Required tools (didn't use the liquid GS in the end):


Specialist tools: My favourite drybrush (yes it's a makeup brush, seriously it's the best I've ever used, lasts longer than most normal drybrushes as well, this has had hard use for 1 year)


Primed Halfords Grey, Undercoated Chaos Black.


Basecoat (not on roofing if possible): Just a dot of chaos black in there, prob not needed in retrospect.




Roof
1-2 I prehighlight the roofing tiles with fortress grey, then skull white, heavy drybrushing will do if you don't have a spray can/airbrush or just can't be bothered to mask off the brickwork).


3-6 My favourite colour comes into play, I went blue+turquoise, Turquoise alone, Turquoise +Skull white, thinned with a bit of medium.





Observatory
1 Undercoated: Scorched Brown



2 Basecoated: Shining Gold+Dwarf Bronze


3 Highlighted Shining Gold (drybrush)


4 Mix up dark angels green + hawk turquoise +water, really thin! This will make our verdigris.


5 Splodge it all over, leave it aside to dry:


Brickwork
1 Heavy Drybrush of codex grey, all over, be patient, on a model of this size this is literally an hours work or so, a good first layer is irreplaceable.


2 (camera started dying here)
Slightly lighter drybrushing of Codex+ Fortress Grey, still don't be stingy, we're going to be finishing up fairly bright, this isn't a 'light' coating of paint, just not a 'heavy' drybrush.

3 Plain fortress grey, slightly less on the brush for drybrushing now.


4 Finally we're onto what I'd consider to be 'light' drybrushing, still ensure you don't miss any spots, Fortress Grey + Skull White

5 Final Drybrush Highlight: Pure skull white, barely any on the brush, if yours is as thick as mine you'll need to add a *tiny* amount of water, then wipe off all but the dregs elsewhere, my tester is to brush it on the back of my nail, if it's only picking out the very slight ridges you're on track!

I also used this to highlight the roofing tiles, picking out their edges and ridges.:


Camera is Dead at this point, again my apologies

Wood
1 Calthan Brown + scorched brown, all over

2 Sepia + Devlan mud wash all over

3 Bestial + Scorched drybrush

4 Pure Bestial Drybrush

5 Very Light Bestial + Snakebite Drybrush

Golden bits

1 Undercoat with calthan brown+Scorched brown

2 Vallejo Model Colour gold, this thing works wonders, thin it with thinners or alcohol though, do not involve water at any stage, one or two coats should do it, I don't shake the paint but 'swill' it genty around in the pot, this avoids bubbles.

3 Same Verdigris mix as used on observatory

Silver Bits
1 Undercoat Black

2 Base boltgun

3 Wash Devlan

4 Drybrush Boltgun + Chainmail

Skulls! (oh the skulls...)

1 Base Dheneb Stone (2 coats)

2 Wash Devlan Mud

3 Highlight heavy drybrushing of dheneb +bleached (be careful not to get brickwork)

Finally I weathered the parts of the model where I thought dirt/grime would settle with a light drybrush of knarlock green + graveyard earth + scorched brown

Done, Pics:


Link to one million pictures of the finished Manse


Please let me know if you like the tutorals/have any crits (asides from the obvious picture issues) guys, I'll do some more in the future if people find the useful/enjoy reading them.

That's a brilliant tutorial! Really nice result, like it more than the 'eavy metal version

Well, time to scour the internet for that max concealer brush. I never thought I'd be buying makeup supplies for myself.

Cheers chaps! It'll be a good 20years if not more until I could claim anything to be approaching the level of those guys though, I've got their mini painting book, although it's had more drooling over than attepts to practice their techniques: it's half inspiring half intimidating! A couple of Ogre updates coming tomorrow guys, and as for commission stuff there's some Empire Knights I'm working on (still on the horsies), and 4 Necron barges just arrived ^_^

It's going to be a busy week.....

Byronic wrote:Cheers chaps! It'll be a good 20years if not more until I could claim anything to be approaching the level of those guys though

Are you referring to yourself in the third person here?

A tutorial on a necron barge would be awesome! I got a bunch of necron vehicles to build and paint still.

Oh man, that looks great. And the stonetusk a while back? Looks almost real.

Are you going to do the barges like you did the first one? That'd be a LOT of edge highlighting for four barges :p

Robbietobbie wrote:Are you going to do the barges like you did the first one? That'd be a LOT of edge highlighting for four barges :p

Haha, thankfully not (although if I was it'd pay me for a couple of weeks!), they'll be done in a similar fashion to the ark, just with the alternate paint scheme.

Swordwind wrote:Oh man, that looks great. And the stonetusk a while back? Looks almost real.

Cheers Swordwind, I'll hopefully get to spend some more time on him and finish of the actual stonehorn this weekend, no promises though!

Lt. Coldfire wrote:

Byronic wrote:Cheers chaps! It'll be a good 20years if not more until I could claim anything to be approaching the level of those guys though

Are you referring to yourself in the third person here?

A tutorial on a necron barge would be awesome! I got a bunch of necron vehicles to build and paint still.

Haha, nope Lt., I was talking about the 'Eavy Metal' guys, they're out of this world!

I am working on my most detailed (and hopefully high quality - pictures etc) tutorial to date, I'm aiming to do a start to finish one on a necron barge, including a fairly in-depth look at undercoating mechanics and a bit of preshading, we'll see how it goes.

For now I'll see if I can get a picture edited in this afternoon, the barges are started at least

Also I'm working on these, they'll be finished by Wed:

More oldschool updates :0




I've made a gif to show the Slaughtermaster from all angles, it's pretty rough but gives a bit of a better idea of what he's like:



And one from a higher angle:

Cool idea those gifs he's awesome!
not a big fan of the knight models though

Good work on the Empire knights. Those models show their age and take a good paint job to look good on the table.

Requiem wrote:Cool idea those gifs he's awesome!
not a big fan of the knight models though

I actually really like their 'classic' look, they're very hard to paint though! Cheers mate.

Metsuri wrote:Good work on the Empire knights. Those models show their age and take a good paint job to look good on the table.

Thanks Metsuri, that means a lot; painting them has definitely given me a newfound respect for anyone with an army containing any number of these looking decent, they're extremely hard to get a convincing looking job on them, I ended up spending far to long on them to get them to an acceptable level.. here's the results anyway:



I'll snag some proper photos tomorrow when there's some sunlight around to help.

Byron

Wow. Wish I could paint as neatly as you.

Swordwind wrote:Wow. Wish I could paint as neatly as you.

just lots of holding my breath and patience on these guys!

A few slightly better shots:

I gotta say they look a lot better in the new pics. The old pics really made the blues look flat. The white on that banner turned out exceptionally well. Solid job all around, Byron.

Moltar wrote:I gotta say they look a lot better in the new pics. The old pics really made the blues look flat. The white on that banner turned out exceptionally well. Solid job all around, Byron.

Thanks very much Moltar, the banner was a learning experience for sure I started the shading with the airbrush, but it just wasn't precise enough, so I went back in with some glazes of paint, and then a *very* thin light one of gyphonne sepia, really watered down, barely any on the brush, I think it's a recipe I'll be using again, it's quite time consuming though.

A little bit of progress, a mildly better shot of the standard bearer as well.

Wow. Nice job on those reds in the last pic. That really pops and the shades are just right. I also like the stripes on the thundertusks (or whatever they're called), but worry that they may be too close to black. When I think a dark brown may have come off more natural, but that's solely my personal opinion. Great stuff all around, Byron.

Moltar wrote:Wow. Nice job on those reds in the last pic. That really pops and the shades are just right. I also like the stripes on the thundertusks (or whatever they're called), but worry that they may be too close to black. When I think a dark brown may have come off more natural, but that's solely my personal opinion. Great stuff all around, Byron.

Cheers bud, I think you're spot on actually, there was no going back a few stripes in though: that's why I spent so long glazing the 'fade' into their mane's to try and integrate the colour throughout the model a bit more, it worked a little but it's still quite a harsh transition with the stripes, at least they're fairly striking on the tabletop

Hi guys, I'd really appreciate your thoughts on which of the new releases I should paint up to put on eBay, as I've mentioned before my 40k knowledge game-wise is at the very best severely limited!

I am aware that thunderwolf cav are very good in the game but that's about it, the new tyranids look very cool, but do you think they would sell well, do people already have old versions of the models etc?

Basically;
Which of the new space wolves/tyranids releases do you think are the most popular in the game?
If there's one of these is there a particular equipent set-up that is more powerful and will sell better (both for the units/characters)
Is there a specific unit size that's very good?


Your knowledge would be really really helpful!

Cheers,

Byron

I do know that tervigons are a very major unit in many nid strategies. They seem good too. Psychic troop spawner MCs.

Opinions differ on thunderwolf cavalry but consensus seems to be that they are very good and in any case loads of fun to field. Not an expert on tyranids so can't really help you there.
If you do make twc the load-out is pretty important, some people field them with storm shields and some just send them in 'naked'

Great stuff on this thread, and nice to see this quality terrain too.

The Space Wolves TWC unit is just awesome at games. Thou if you take these guys, your army's performance is usually based on how well this unit does.

Personally field unit of four with following setup:
1 with Thunder hammer
1 with Storm shield
1 with Meltabomb
1 "naked"

I also have tooled out Wolf Lord with that usually joins these guys, and on a rare occasion goes solo. If they make it to HtH, without losing more than one guy(or so), they can really pack a punch that few can withstand. Sometimes they get withered down by random shooting so that they can't deliver on that critical game deciding HtH. But still I enjoy using the unit.

Unfortunately can't say much about the new Tyranids as I don't play them.

Thanks very much guys

Is there an 'optimal' set-up on the lord on wolf by the way?

A couple of WiP updates:



And four at this stage

Ah you're painting them the nihilakh way? looking good so far, the paint scheme has really grown on me

It turns out the TWC are very nice to paint (wolves at least, working on the riders), here's some step by step pics or how I went about them; I'll edit in the text when I've got a bit of time tonight or tomorrow.

Loving the wolves Byron! Would we awesome if you could add some text to the tutorial though, not every picture is as clear in what you did hehe

Great wolves!

Those bases are great, and the bloodstains too.

Amazing wolves mate, cant wait to see what the riders you throw on top will look like.

Swordwind wrote:Those bases are great, and the bloodstains too.

Thanks very much bud, I can honestly say t's the most fun I've ever had doing bases, it's refreshing not to have to worry about whether things will rank up like I do with fantasy stuff

Sheep wrote:Amazing wolves mate, cant wait to see what the riders you throw on top will look like.

Just for you Sheep :


@Requiem thanks bud, as I said I'm incredibly busy at the moment, not to mention the fact that I'm on antibiotics for a chest infection, when I get time I'll edit it into the post.

Thanks for looking all, I'll get some unit pictures asap!

Just keeps getting better and better Thanks for the pic mate, do you have a lord model to do too?

Those look excellent. Only thing that bothers me though is that you didnt fill up the gap between the right front paw and the neck, just a minor thing though. cool job!

Sheep wrote:Just keeps getting better and better Thanks for the pic mate, do you have a lord model to do too?

I don't bud, as I'm painting these for profit finecast is just too much of a gamble :( Shame, it's a nice sculpt.

Robbietobbie wrote:Those look excellent. Only thing that bothers me though is that you didnt fill up the gap between the right front paw and the neck, just a minor thing though. cool job!

No tie for that given the turnaround I had to have on these guys, it's a real shortcoming of the kit, which is 90%perfect, with about 3 factors holding it back, overall still a very nice box to work with though.

A bit more of the oldschool for you fellas :

The TWC look great, have to get one of those sets. Just for the new SW bitz.

My personal TW Wolf lord setup:

Wolf Lord
Thunder hammer, Storm shield, Runic armor,
Thunderwolf mount, Wolftooth necklace,
Wolf tail talisman, 2x Fenrisian wolves,
Saga of the Bear

He's quite beefy nut gets the job done. Also fielded Canis few times, not as good IMO, but more cheaper in points.

And Karl Franz is looking good too.