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Post by: Justus
Are there any armies that you guys flat out hate?
When I began playing I also started with three of my friend, two of who have quit. It was me with Chaos Space Marines, G with Eldar, M with Tau, and A with Tau. M and A have both quit. For my first year of playing there was no FLGS in my immediate area yet. The majority of the time I played Tau. Eldar smashed me (and still does today), but playing against him was a breath of fresh air compared to Tau. Even to this day I seethe with anger when I see Tau, it's really bad. Unhealthy bad to the extent that I don't like them. I played a guy at my FLGS and took secret joy in dismantling his army just because they were Tau and no other reason. It almost sends me into an animalistic rage. I know this is really bad, but are there any armies that send you into a rage? Maybe not even disliking it because it's a strong army, I mean you just plain don't like them.
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Post by: Coolyo294
Space Wolves. I f****** hate everything about them.
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Post by: EldarKid
Ig, they are boring
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Post by: Melchiour
I would have to say Guard. While I love the models and rules, I hate going up against them. I always have the worst time.
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Post by: Justus
Do you hate Space Wolves because they're op? Or because their Space Wolves? I'm a Thousand Sons fan AND I just finished A Thousand Sons, so I don't particularly like Space Wolves. That pales in comparison to my HATE for Tau though!
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Post by: Mr Nobody
Dark Eldar, not sure why.
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Post by: G00fySmiley
i hate wolves and blood angels... because they do eveything space marines do... but better... for less points.
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Post by: Just Dave
Justus wrote:I'm a Thousand Sons fan AND I just finished A Thousand Sons, so I don't particularly like Space Wolves. That pales in comparison to my HATE for Tau though!
Just wait 'til you read Prospero Burns before making your mind up...
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Post by: Coolyo294
Justus wrote:Do you hate Space Wolves because they're op? Or because their Space Wolves? I'm a Thousand Sons fan AND I just finished A Thousand Sons, so I don't particularly like Space Wolves. That pales in comparison to my HATE for Tau though!
There are no SW players at the store I play at, so my hate is based entirely upon their fluff.
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Post by: xSoulgrinderx
BLOOOOODDDDDD ANGELS!!!! BEACUSE EVERYONE PLAYS THEM!!!! And they get this stupid "decent of Angels" crap, yet the Chaos Daemons get nothing.... WTFZOMGBBQ!!!!
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Post by: Nuclear_Bomb
Melchiour wrote:I would have to say Guard. While I love the models and rules, I hate going up against them. I always have the worst time.
This.
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Post by: Magtherion_Soulsaver
Tyranid.
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Post by: Ascalam
Fluff-wise - Marines of any stripe. The Fanboyism on the writer's side is sometimes just unreal, especially in BL.
On the tabletop- Blood Angels run as an express-delivery Dread-blender factory for my orks, and Khorne Daemons for my Necrons.
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Post by: Mr. Self Destruct
Mostly Space Marines in general, specifically Space Wolves.
The Space Wolf book is better in all respects and game aspects than the basic Space Marine book. And their fluff sucks.
Space Marine hatred mainly stems from the Salamanders vs. Commorragh (500 Salamanders fight off and escape from the entire Dark City)
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Post by: Vaktathi
Mr. Self Destruct wrote:Mostly Space Marines in general, specifically Space Wolves.
The Space Wolf book is better in all respects and game aspects than the basic Space Marine book. And their fluff sucks.
Space Marine hatred mainly stems from the Salamanders vs. Commorragh (500 Salamanders fight off and escape from the entire Dark City)
A lot of this.
Loyalist Marines in general are fairly overvamped and uninteresting at this point, but Space Wolves are just all kinds of awful. They can't decide what they want to be, and half the things they want to be are contradictory. They want to be the honorable good guys, but at the same time want to be the dark brooding executioner, the wild werewolf, the beer drinking hearty pranksters, and the bloody viking Berzerker all at the same time, and they just come off as goofy and stupid. They're a chapter of supposedly Space Vikings but somehow also have the mightiest fortress outside of Terra or Medrengard....how/why? They fire rocket artillery by smell, and all sorts of other ridiculousness.
They take themselves far too seriously while trying to portray themselves as not to be taken seriously, and it ends up as bad internet fanfic more than anything else.
That said, I've also historically disliked Eldar, despite the fact that I also play Eldar. Rather, more it's Eldar players with the typical Elf player mentality that everything about them should be better in every way just because, and that their Elf-things should be able to annihilate anything they come across just because they're "better". I remember an Eldar player I beat waayyyy back in 4E, who got legit angry about losing, but not so much the losing part, rather losing to the Imperial Guard, which he thought was completely unfluffy and shouldn't be possible and that something was wrong with the game, Space Elves just don't lose to the Imperial Guard you see. While not necessarily as extreme, varying degrees of this attitude seem to be highly prevalent amongst Eldar players, and indeed all Elf type players in every game system.
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Post by: Simo429
I don't hate any army but I don't like playing tau, I find that its normally a boring game, I attempt to get across the table and into combat, if I do I win and if I don't I lose.
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Post by: Hans_Einberg
Tau player here! 
Has to be Blood Angels, Guard or Grey Knights.
Mainly Blood Angels for reasons listed above.
Guard is a unfair bias I have due to a guard crazed member in my FLGS. Nice guy but when he goes on about his guard he makes them sound unstoppable.
When you play a game and put him in a situation where his IG actually work against him
(tank squadron rules usually do it, if not its the amount of rail guns i put in the field..ect ect) he looses his cool and throws a temper tantrum.
Sometimes even demanding I re roll my dice during a game deciding hit on his prized Plasma turret w/ plasma sponsoons tank because "he was not ready for me to roll and was not looking at the table". that and several fist fights have almost broken out in the shop because he takes everything way too seriously and its best to keep your head down if hes having a rule argument with someone....i saw flying dice and almost a flying drop pod....:S
This has left me with a wee bit of a bad impression of guard (him being the only player in the store so its only natural to associate a connection between the two)
As I said before, Unfair. I am sure there are plenty of normal guard players out there 
-end of accidental rant
oh yeah and I just... flat out don't like vendettas.
As for Grey Knights with their increasing popularity in my FLGS almost EVERYONE has a GK army and to be honest I find fighting against them to be a wee bit dull, but maybe that's just me.
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Post by: moom241
Tau. Ugh. The word itself leaves a bad taste in my mouth, fluffwise, they're flip flopping like mad. Depending on who you ask, they're either good hearted socialists who want to unify us all, or black hearted space commies/nazis who run concentration camps, sterilize the lesser beings and are ruled by pheromone dropping super-fish people. I'm sure someone will correct me on some of this, but that's beside the point right now.
On the tabletop, they trounce my guard on every aspect except melee combat, and my guards get shot up before we get close. My only chance is to hope my HWT can bomb out some of the infantry.
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Post by: Sam__theRelentless
I really don't like Chaos.
While I accept the idea of there having to be an apocryphal antichristal enemy in the 40k universe, I absolutely hate Chaos, especially their fluff. It repulses me.... CHUNDAR!! Especially Nurgle. He's the worst.
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Post by: Abstract Catalyst
Orks, they're just...ugh.
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Post by: Vaktathi
Sam__theRelentless wrote:I really don't like Chaos.
While I accept the idea of there having to be an apocryphal antichristal enemy in the 40k universe, I absolutely hate Chaos, especially their fluff. It repulses me.... CHUNDAR!! Especially Nurgle. He's the worst.
Well, aside from the fact that Chaos isn't exactly supposed to be "likeable", what about it is so awful? There's a lot to like and dislike about it, but there's more cool stuff there than most other races.
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Post by: Little lord Fauntleroy
Orks.
Well, no, that's not fair. I like the Orks, but I have a complete mental block when playing against them. Any sort of limited strategic or tactical knowledge I possessed is thrown out the window when the Green tide approaches. I like them, but they seem to have a rather large problem with me.
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Post by: Jayden63
I hate the Deamons codex. I personally feel that they have no place in the 40K world outside of the Chaos book. There are just no roving bands of deamons that walk arm and arm and invade a planet for the hell of it. It just doesn't happen that way.
Deamons are to be yanked forcibly out of the warp. Sent on a path of distruction, and wisked back into where they came.
As for fluff, I hate most all Marine faction fluff equally. They are all protected too much by plot armor rated all the way to the ridiculous. For some reason the only exception is Space Wolves. I just dig the sons of Russ. Probably because I have selective memory and only focus on the cool stuff and ignore the daff stuff.
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Post by: darkPrince010
Orks. The fluff is awesomely hilarious, but unless you have an army list built for munching light armor and hordes, you're  .
The only way I've been on even footing with Orks is when we have f-ed up scenarios that dismantle both our armies. Otherwise, I have 1 turn to break 4+ vehicles before I get a special delivery of green asswhooping... :( Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and I agree with jayden. Daemons don't deserve seperate books fluff-wise. I say make them a subsection of the Chaos handbook like before, with the option to run an all-daemon Chaos/ CSM army if you so desire.
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Post by: Brother SRM
moom241 wrote:Tau. Ugh. The word itself leaves a bad taste in my mouth, fluffwise, they're flip flopping like mad. Depending on who you ask, they're either good hearted socialists who want to unify us all, or black hearted space commies/nazis who run concentration camps, sterilize the lesser beings and are ruled by pheromone dropping super-fish people. I'm sure someone will correct me on some of this, but that's beside the point right now.
On the tabletop, they trounce my guard on every aspect except melee combat, and my guards get shot up before we get close. My only chance is to hope my HWT can bomb out some of the infantry.
That bit of fluff is actually very interesting. They come off as being idyllic and good hearted, while underneath they're just as wretched as anyone else in the 40k universe. That's the interesting dichotomy that so much of their fluff is built around.
And seriously, you have trouble fighting them as Guard? I'm pretty sure you are the first person I've ever heard complain about Tau being hard to fight. Yeah, you can't mash them up in hand to hand as well as Marines or Orks, but you can outgun them and drown them in cheap bodies.
Most of these posts are just coming off as "a bloo bloo I have a harder than usual time beating X army with the same tactics I use to fight Y army" and I don't think we really need this thread since we had one just like it a week or so ago.
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Post by: English Assassin
In terms of background, I've never thought the Tau fitted well to the game-world's atmosphere, or added much. The Space Wolves are fun in principle, but they're entirely one-dimensional and their codices have been uniformly dreadful pap. Chaos and the warp have been dumbed-down from their literate, metaphorical origins to space-satanists with spikes on living in a generic fantasy realm of eeevil.
In rules terms, back in the day I loathed the Tyranids for being stupidly overpowered in 2nd edition, and despise the Space Wolves in the present one for much the same reason.
Hmm. I do feel better for sharing that.
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Post by: moom241
Brother SRM wrote:moom241 wrote:Tau. Ugh. The word itself leaves a bad taste in my mouth, fluffwise, they're flip flopping like mad. Depending on who you ask, they're either good hearted socialists who want to unify us all, or black hearted space commies/nazis who run concentration camps, sterilize the lesser beings and are ruled by pheromone dropping super-fish people. I'm sure someone will correct me on some of this, but that's beside the point right now.
On the tabletop, they trounce my guard on every aspect except melee combat, and my guards get shot up before we get close. My only chance is to hope my HWT can bomb out some of the infantry.
That bit of fluff is actually very interesting. They come off as being idyllic and good hearted, while underneath they're just as wretched as anyone else in the 40k universe. That's the interesting dichotomy that so much of their fluff is built around.
And seriously, you have trouble fighting them as Guard? I'm pretty sure you are the first person I've ever heard complain about Tau being hard to fight. Yeah, you can't mash them up in hand to hand as well as Marines or Orks, but you can outgun them and drown them in cheap bodies.
Most of these posts are just coming off as "a bloo bloo I have a harder than usual time beating X army with the same tactics I use to fight Y army" and I don't think we really need this thread since we had one just like it a week or so ago.
This is mostly because I've only played for about 5 months, but maybe I'm just nublish. I haven't had too many problems with other armies. Firewarriors always outgun my guards mean too fast, and Jump shoot jump annoys me to no end.
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Post by: darkPrince010
Brother SRM wrote:Most of these posts are just coming off as "a bloo bloo I have a harder than usual time beating X army with the same tactics I use to fight Y army" and I don't think we really need this thread since we had one just like it a week or so ago.
Well, I expect most of use would prefer to avoid Threadomancy, especially in discussion threads that may have wandered OT or have had moderator warnings (As so many of these threads get...). Perhaps a better choice would be for someone to sticky a permanent "[Insert Army or Unclear Rule Here] Discussion" thread for each forum category?
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Post by: Tjyven
Space Wolves.
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Post by: Grakmar
Which do I hate? None of them.
I don't like that SM armies get so much attention from GW, but I understand that they are the main army and get the most time in the spotlight.
I don't think that Tau quite fit in to the theme of 40k, but I love the idea of a pure shooty army from a gameplay perspective.
I think there are many OP armies out there, but the strength of armies always waxes and wanes.
I know that there's plenty of bandwagon hoppers that just play whatever army is currently "best", but I tend to play with a more established crowd that is willing to wait 5 years or so for their codex to be updated.
So, there's plenty of armies out there that annoy me, but nothing that I outright hate. And, give it another 10 years and I promise you that you'll be "hating" an entirely different subset of armies.
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Post by: Belexar
Grey Knights, fluff-wise. Also, they're dicks.
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Post by: Kylis
I guess I hate the newest Marine books (armies), because BA, Wolves & gk are only single chapter and there are more and more players playing those armies and I guess there are now more GK players compared to eldar+tau+necrons+deldar added together. and its only getting worse.
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Post by: MrGiggles
I'd have to say Tau. I don't have an issue with most of the models or the look or even the game play. Fluff-wise though, I agree with Grakmar, they just don't fit into 40K well.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Tyranids. I can't think of a single redeeming feature of the army.
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Post by: alistarv
I dislike Ork fluff pretty intensely, the brand of humor simply does not resonate with me. I appreciate comic relief in a "grimdark" universe, and I actually quite enjoy playing against them, but the codex fills me with murder frenzy.
As far as playing against, it's definitely space wolves. Playing my vanilla marines against the other new marine books, there's usually at least one facet of shooting or combat I can use to my advantage (if not have the advantage in). Space wolves are immensely better than me at both shooting AND combat, and their psykers kick sand in my librarian's face at the beach.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Fluff-wise: I have problems with Marines and their super amazing plot armour in general much of the time, but the Space Wolves are offensive to me in almost every way, although, I may be biased, having just finished A Thousand Sons today, and will read Prospero Burns to give them a chance.
But even in their codex they are so incredibly boring and friggin schizophrenic in their supposed "theme" it's painful. Not to mention, I'm not entirely sure why they haven't been branded traitors. I guess when you're the Space Wolves, you can just plot armour your way through anything.
Tabletop: I can't actually think of any army I dislike on the tabletop to any real extent. Well, playing an army of pure Deathwing, all with TH/SS was pretty annoying (Do note that I caved and we used the 5e rules for Storm Shields) when using Necrons, I won the game, but it was still easily the most annoying moment for me playing 40k.
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Post by: SwiftLord14
I hate BA.... A LOT.
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Post by: Abstract Catalyst
alistarv wrote:I dislike Ork fluff pretty intensely, the brand of humor simply does not resonate with me. I appreciate comic relief in a "grimdark" universe, and I actually quite enjoy playing against them, but the codex fills me with murder frenzy.
This is my issue with Orks. I don't mind playing against them, but their fluff and models just irritate me. Their humour is crap, the speech impediment looses its comedic value after 5 seconds and they're ridiculously obnoxious.
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Post by: Lord Solar Awesome
I HATE the tau! I don't like their stupid anime look or the massive amounts of plot armor they get all the time. Not only that, but they think they're the most powerful race in the galaxy. Their fanboys get on my nerves as well...
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Post by: Nicholas
For all those saying I hate x army without giving a reason, cool story bros
In my opinion all the armies in 40K have a lot of potential, but come off as underwhelming. My big two are.
Tau first because it's the biggest, I have no idea why GW gave them only 100 worlds as they basically have no influence over the galaxy except preaching to a few Imperial worlds.
Chaos, 13 black crusades almost no visible results, as the arch enemy of almost every faction has become a nuisance. After the heresy they seem to just sit there.
Tabletop I hate playing Tau that basically boils down to my only opponent with the army uses almost the same build every time and I table it 90% of the time yet he never tries anything new.
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Post by: Psienesis
Early(2nd? 3rd?) Edition Orks...
... man, screw that Green Tide BS....
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Post by: Yipyioh
Frakking 'Nids... At least the way my friend plays them (up to six or seven big bugs with some form of extra protection and regen or massive saves). Although this is born from my penchant (and what some may call an obsession) with Basilisks and various forms of artillery... I just can't seem to find a way to pound them into the ground enough to kill anything regardless of what artillery I'm using or how I'm using it. In 3 CP games I only managed to kill off one carnifax, a single zooanthrope, and a couple termagaunt squads. Maybe I should quit whining about my lack of luck with artillery and go play a slightly manlier army than IG so my conscripts don't shout "Run away!" at the first sight of a large bug monster. Oh screw it, I'll just keep throwing shells at them. It worked against Orks. Personally, I like the green tide. It makes me feel good that even if I miss by virtually half a mile I can still hit something. Or a lot of somethings.
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Post by: Psienesis
I was fielding a CSM army in those days, and of course had fewer models than my brother, playing the Orks, because CSM troops cost lots more.
I'd also been on a Khorne kick for awhile, so was mostly geared for CC. I did alright, I guess.... but there were just. so. MANY ORKS!
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Post by: Void__Dragon
There is nothing more satisfying than wiping out a squad of Berserkers with Boys.
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Post by: Ascalam
Wiping them out with grots
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Post by: Ghiest1
Hello,
It would have to be BA they just get to many things, and cheap as hell to.
Regards,
Carl
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Ascalam wrote:Wiping them out with grots
I'm not sure how many virgin goats you would have to sacrifice to the Dice Gods to do that, but it would be so worth it.
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Post by: Shadowseer_Kim
Space marines. All space marines, including, blood angels, grey knights, chaos marines, wolves etc. If they have the shoulder pads, power armour, carry bolters, I call them space marines.
Pointing this out to any of the various space marine players annoys them I have found, so I make a point.
Right. They are Space Marines.
Yes they are the poster boys of the 40k world, but seriously, there are more interesting things than a million subfactions of space marines.
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Post by: Akroma06
Ultrasmurfs...and not because they are GWs poster boys. I actually like the color scheme as it is my favorite two colors. Their fluff is what kills me, they don't defened Terra from Horus, yes they were a ways away but so was Horus, and then they come in spouting the Codex Astartes and turning weapons on any Legion that doesn't comply. How they were not considered traitors right then and there is beyond me. The Emperor set it up that way for a reason now Girlyman is telling everyone its wrong. Not only do they do that then they turn around break their own rules! No SM chapter is to control a system or sector. You can either have a fleet, series of keeps or A PLANET, but not a whole sector *cough Macragge cough*.
If that isn't enough they seem to be as far as possible from battle as needed, insert Armageddon here, and when they are they lose or leave forces on the ground to die.
In fact just read this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/266073.page
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Post by: Ascalam
Void__Dragon wrote:Ascalam wrote:Wiping them out with grots
I'm not sure how many virgin goats you would have to sacrifice to the Dice Gods to do that, but it would be so worth it.
I did it with a standard 30 grot unit with 3 shokkprod grotherders.
Best rolling of my life. Everything from here on is downhill 
That said, it was worth it for the look on the guy's face 
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Well, I did take down the Swarmlord with a Grot pile on once.
Due to lucky rolls with the Runtherd Poisoned Weapon whose name I forgot.
My friend was so mad lol.
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Post by: AresX8
Hate is a strong word in my case, but it would be Eldar, only because of the models. Then again, I don't like elves in general as much as I did when I was younger.
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Post by: DeathReaper
I do not care for the IG. I do not hate them, but they seem like they belong in a Cthulu novel, not in a world with 10 foot tall angels of death running around in power armor.
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Post by: Puscifer
Eldar.
In 22 years of gaming, I've never beaten them. That's why I'm thinking of joining them.
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Post by: Sam__theRelentless
If you can't beat them, join 'em. If you can't join 'em, play Guard. Manhorde will overcome any and all!!!!
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Post by: Emperors_Champion
The blood angel in me hates chaos, but its "fictional" hate, plus it helps fuel my sibling rivalry as my brothers collected chaos almost as long as I have ba's.
But as for hate with a passion, it'd have to be tau! Can't really explain it, just do!
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Post by: Zweischneid
Imperial Guard
Go play FoW already and stay the out of my sci-fi.
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Post by: Vaktathi
Zweischneid wrote:Imperial Guard
Go play FoW already and stay the out of my sci-fi.
I don't recall any armies that make ovewhelming use of ubiquitous energy/laser weapons, Rambo-esque Commando's, combat ogres, hobbit snipers, chemical weapon tanks, explosive lance cavalry, psychic warriors, combat walkers, plasma tanks, vortex missiles and jet engine dropships in FoW
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Post by: black templar
GREY KNIGHTS AND ULTRAMARINES I HATE THEM!!! CAN WE GET RID OF THEM PLEASE!!!
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Post by: DPBellathrom
space wolves!!! I hate their fluff and their rules and every one seems to play them -_-
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Post by: Albeezie
I hate Tau! Nothing feels better than running over a battle suit with a rhino.
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Post by: pinoypower
i hate all the armys thats why i enjoy killing them in battle.
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Post by: Helvost
Space marines any and all of them...f$%#@%$ space jocks!
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Post by: Iur_tae_mont
Man I wish I had a dollar for every time Someone bitched about Tau or Space Marines. In the past week.
I could quit my job tomorrow and live comfortably for the rest of my life.
Back onto the topic.
There is no army I really don't like. I'm not a big fan of the "MAH ARMEH IZ THE BESTESTS AND IF YOU SAY OTHERWISE, YOU ARE A !" fanboys that you'll find, but other than that (slowly growing) minority.
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Post by: the color purple
I dislike the Wolf part of Space Wolves. I like the feral thing they've got going in the Heresy books (or more appropriately, dislike them, as they are suitably scary and inhuman) and am looking forward to reading Battle of the Fang, but the GW special snowflake, better at everything, Wolves for the Wolf Wolf version is just too over the top. It's really a shame since they've got great character under there.
I also dislike IG players that get really, really into the military minutiae side of them. There's a lot of people that leave me wondering why they don't just play historicals rather than shoving dopey World War 2 sperging into the 41st millenium.
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Post by: TPSOhuzzar
Im loveing all the hate people have for the Basic Human in this there, so much hate for the IG it seems. Means there doing there job.
And on the note of Sci-Fic, name one movie that didnt hve a basic soilder in thats Well know.
As what are my I hate. Really none I just enjoy playing bu on thing I hate...
Broadsides... Strght 10 ap 1 twinlinked..... Come on....
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Post by: Riddick40k
Grey Knights for sure, giving them all I6 power weapons is ridiculous, my death company cost twice what a strike or interceptor squad with halberds and they die before they get to swing, its ridiculous, every other army has spears and such but you don't see them geting a initiative boost. Not to mention Grenades on terminators! what the hell was Ward thinking when he gave terminators grenades!
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Post by: Ascalam
Welcome to my world 
I play two I 2 armies, that generally get whaled on before they get to swing..
Orks and Necrons don't like going second.
As to the other question that would presuppose that Ward has a functional brain..
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Post by: Pouncey
If you'd asked me a month ago, I'd've said Grey Knights, for reasons I won't go into. Now though, I don't mind em so much, since a little bit of mental retconning makes it all better. ^_^
So I don't really hate any army. Some of em are obviously evil - Chaos and Dark Eldar come to mind - but they make good villains for my fanfiction roleplays, so I don't hate em. I only play friendly games, so I don't run into any cheesy or beardy lists that would make me upset with a particular army.
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Post by: Ineed2bucks
Whatever army does best against me. As of now? SW, only because Logan killed 7 DC  , and thats the most to die in battle so far, and the fluff makes them out as "special snowflake children", not just a different chapter
Also chaos, but only because some guy at the store comes up and stores going on about "my army can kill his, half of yours, most of his and some of his", yes, your whole 2.5k army against an at the time .8k army, I have no doubt 
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Post by: Tielc
Bugs and Bots, I just don't like them models and fluff wise...they creep me out...
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Post by: Zomjie
Just noticed that the automon world destroying robots known as the necrons have been hated by no one as a necron player this makes me very happy
I would say the Eldar, do to their fluff and the stupid old ones that stopped my metal friends from destroying the universe
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Post by: smudgethekat
Blood Angels. They have curly hair, nipples on their armour, and their chestpieces are modeled as naked man chests.
Seriously, what the hell.
They have the sort of atmosphere that makes me almost physically sick. They are too "angelic" to be bringers of ultimate death. But then of course theyre also VAMPIRES.
Which one are they? Angels or Vampires? Make up your mind for god's sake.
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Post by: htj
They are too "angelic" to be bringers of ultimate death.
Oh, come on! Angels are kick ass death and war machines in numerous Christian texts, I find it perfectly appropriate that there should be angelic death-bringers.
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Post by: smudgethekat
That's the thing. They can't seem to decide whether they are goody two-shoes angels or bloodsucking, almost-traitor vampires.
Ugh, I'm so angry right now just thinking about them. Plus, and I'm very sorry to anyone who doesn't fit this awful generalisation, you have my sincere apologies, but, at least in my area, they seem to be played primarily by 12 year olds. With squeaky voices.
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m990169a_99120101085_BASanguinaryGuard1_873x627.jpg
OMG LOOK AT THEM. GRRRR. They have stupid angel wings, which doesnt fit the vampire stuff they've got going on, add that to the stupid masks on the top left and top right, and top it all off with a healthy dose of NAKED MAN TORSO WITH GOLDEN NIPPLES on the bottom, and you have one huge mistake, and a sorry excuse for an HQ choice (I think, forgive me, I can't bring myself to TOUCH their codex, let alone read it.).
I'll shut up now.
EDIT: Wait I've got more. You know what they remind me of?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2584447/images/1221530037212.jpg
That is all.
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Post by: Botten3
BLOOD ANGELS
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Post by: htj
@smudgethekat.
OK, I can agree with you on the Vampires vs. Angels thing, they should make up their damn minds. Plus, when I was a lad, they were the oh-so-cool-totally-the-best army that all the kids wanted, so I hated them good and proper. Your hate envigours me, I can feel it doing me the power of good. Some of that old time hate is coming back to me.
Plus, I'm a Sisters of Battle player, and they STOLE OUR DAMN IMMOLATORS.
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Post by: smudgethekat
Hate is a powerful weapon. Use it well.
EDIT: Oh yeah, the Baal Predators. I want Baal Predators 
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Post by: htj
I think I will use it to pound my friends Blood Angles into a fine red paste. Heretic scum.
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Post by: Jollydevil
To Everyone saying "everyone plays them", go to this thread.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/389450.page
So in reality Space Wolves are the second least played army, second only to Black Templars.
Me, I dont like the Ultramarines. I dont really have anything against anyone else, its just the Ultra marines are so cliche, and theyre played by a ton a people whos first pick for an army is Ultramarines.
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Post by: htj
@Jollydevil.
If by 'them' you mean Blood Angels, then I am sure smudge and I are not counted in that 'everyone' since neither of us have levelled this complaint against them.
You know, I've never seen an Ultramarine army? Not once. I must be blessed.
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Post by: MrMerlin
I dont like Ultramaweens for their fluff. Yes, I'm sure that Marneus Calgar can kill an Avatar single-handetly or slaughter an advancing Ork-horde FOR ONE DAY AND ONE NIGHT!! HELLO? Their fluff is ridiculus! And they look stupid. You cant even look behind you in terminater armor, and the Calgar pic looks more like "oh look the guy living in this little blue house is sticking his head out to check if there is any mail" The armor is just too big and clumsy to look realistic
edit
see:
http://images.wikia.com/warhammer40k/images/4/4f/Marneus_Calgar_by_Karl_Kopinski.jpg
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Post by: Skarshak
Never been a fan of mass monsterous creature Tyranid armys! They are a total pain in my
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Post by: Kirbinator
Tyranids. Only because I loved them dearly enough to get into 40k and then the most recent codex said "Well, here are two neat units that go along with what you probably have in mind, and here's some random useless stuff... oh, and everything gets a point hike. By the way, I sure hope you didn't glue those Spinefists on your Gaunts because you pay extra for those now, just like you paid extra for Fleshborers in 4th ed."
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Post by: Nicholas
smudgethekat wrote:That's the thing. They can't seem to decide whether they are goody two-shoes angels or bloodsucking, almost-traitor vampires.
Ugh, I'm so angry right now just thinking about them. Plus, and I'm very sorry to anyone who doesn't fit this awful generalisation, you have my sincere apologies, but, at least in my area, they seem to be played primarily by 12 year olds. With squeaky voices.
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m990169a_99120101085_BASanguinaryGuard1_873x627.jpg
OMG LOOK AT THEM. GRRRR. They have stupid angel wings, which doesnt fit the vampire stuff they've got going on, add that to the stupid masks on the top left and top right, and top it all off with a healthy dose of NAKED MAN TORSO WITH GOLDEN NIPPLES on the bottom, and you have one huge mistake, and a sorry excuse for an HQ choice (I think, forgive me, I can't bring myself to TOUCH their codex, let alone read it.).
I'll shut up now.
EDIT: Wait I've got more. You know what they remind me of?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2584447/images/1221530037212.jpg
That is all.
It's weird the two side of the coin style is why I like them. They have both a light, angelic, and a dark side, the flaw, that they have to keep hidden away. If they were just one they would just be good, or just be bad which is boring. Nipples I agree with however.
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Post by: smudgethekat
htj wrote:@Jollydevil.
If by 'them' you mean Blood Angels, then I am sure smudge and I are not counted in that 'everyone' since neither of us have levelled this complaint against them. .
Yes, it was more of a complaint against the army, not the players. Although my statement about the 12 year olds in my region stands.
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Post by: Pouncey
Ineed2bucks wrote:Whatever army does best against me. As of now? SW, only because Logan killed 7 DC , and thats the most to die in battle so far, and the fluff makes them out as "special snowflake children", not just a different chapter
Also chaos, but only because some guy at the store comes up and stores going on about "my army can kill his, half of yours, most of his and some of his", yes, your whole 2.5k army against an at the time .8k army, I have no doubt
Heh... I could totally crush his puny 2.5k pts army with my much larger and roughly equal and smaller armies all put together.... My shooting phase would take three days, and leave his half of the table in cratered rubble, JUST FROM ALL THE DICE ROLLING! THEN WE' LL SEE WHAT'S WHAT! : P
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Post by: ND999
Eldar in all aspects:
Looks: I never liked elves, seriously, plus most Eldar look f-ing ridiculous (with the exception of Wraiths, Avengers & Banshees)
Fluff: The Eldar are not bad people per say, they are simply galactic dicks who think they are better then everybody else. A race close to extinction? ''Good riddance'' I say.
Crunch: The Eldar army is based upon speed, not strength. Also, each unit has it's own purpose, a role to fulfill in combat. This is the opposite of what I play as (strength & flexibility).
I think this sums it up.
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Post by: IXBEHEMOTHXI
All space marines and dark eldar!!! overpowered!!!
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Post by: TechMarine1
There aren't really any armies that I "hate", but I dislike playing against Tyranids (with a passion) because it's already pretty one sided, but to make it even more one sided, they'll cast paroxism on your unit among other things.
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Post by: Ledabot
It seems funny to me to see all these people with cc armies going wahhh I don’t like tau. What? We should be running screaming from your stuff.
I don’t like chaos mostly because my good al mate plays 2 lash princes and takes out all my suits in 2 or so turns. If that’s not enough, his land radar seems impervious to my rail guns.
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Post by: Redeemer31
I don't hate any particular army but I've always disliked how the fluff for Space Marines makes them ridiculously overpowered but on the tabletop they seem almost... human.
Personally, I don't find the fluff for SMs very interesting; too over the top. If they toned down SMs and make them seem reasonable and something that I can identify with more, they would seem more interesting to me. Kind of like the Spartans in Halo Reach. I never really liked Halo as people always made out Master Chief to be this uber super soldier who can do the impossible and so on but after playing Halo Reach and seeing that Spartans can actually DIE, it made me like the series more. Does that make sense?
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Post by: DrexMartell
In my opinion, I don't like fighting certain lists... gunlines, I DESPISE!!! and the factions that do it most, like IG and Tau can be the worst at it! but... there is one faint glimmer of hope, I have a list that I enjoy playing no matter what I am up against, my coteaz inquisitorial raid list. charging 24" with storm ravens and still firing multi-meltas at vehicles and slagging them just brings enough hope to my mind that I can keep playing, even when the barrage of bullets hit my vehicles, because I get a 4+ cover save from moving so FRICKEN FAST! MWAHAHAHAH
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Post by: killykavekommando
Being a tau guy, ds nids are the worst! I hate them!
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Post by: chaoslooksgood
Blood angels.... IMO totally overpowered and djust decide to do everything marines do but for less points and better.
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Post by: timetowaste85
darkPrince010 wrote:
Oh, and I agree with jayden. Daemons don't deserve seperate books fluff-wise. I say make them a subsection of the Chaos handbook like before, with the option to run an all-daemon Chaos/CSM army if you so desire.
If they didn't separate Daemons, I never would have started 40k-they were my first army because I was collecting daemons for fantasy-I loved the soul grinder model, so I said "why not try it out. It's not like I'm buying another army...just extending one." Hundreds of marines, eldar, and random 40k boxes later, and I believe I may have made a mistake.
My hatred seems to stem from 3 of the books I seem to see the most in this thread-Tau, Space Wolves, and IG. Oddly enough, I hate all of them for their models. I think MOST of the Tau stuff looks cool...except broadsides/crisis suits, and firewarrior helmets/shoulderpads. I hate the SW viking in power armor look, and I detest the IG infantry models. Tanks are cool. Infantry...Gork could drop a steaming load on the table and it would look better to me.
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Post by: AustonT
I HATE and I do mean HATE ultrasmurfs. Not codex Space Marines; ultrasmurfs. I only mostly dislike smurf players. I'm a die hard Blood Angels player, the current tune of "space marines but cheaper" will change soonish. I can't imagine 6ed launching without a new C:SM. But my hatred of surfs will never end. It's an ugly color, with a stupid story, and upside down Greek letter. Just about any other codex chapter is more interesting; white scars, imperial fists, iron hands (gasp) space Romans make me gag. People who paint Crimson Fists ultramarine blue attract MORE of my ire than just smurf-lackeys.
/rant off
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Post by: Commisar Von Humps
Tau. They're dull and boring, and i played most of my first games against them and i hate how its litterally just sit and shoot. And God to i FETHING HATE Shield drones....
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Post by: Akroma06
Ultrasmurfs...not because they are GW poster boys but their fluff. Everything about it I can't stand.
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Post by: Godeth
Grey knights. Simple.
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Post by: revackey
The one army I cannot stand, is Grey Knights, I don't like what they have done to them, sometimes I wish they were still just a squad of termies...
Player Wise...The SW Players around here are real cocky, they like to think their razorspam/longfang spam is the fluffiest around, and that Space Wolves are the definition of badass. No. (Not saying every Wolves player is bad, just personal experiences getting the best of me!
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Post by: stompydakka
Reading my sig will give you an idea of one of the 3 main hated armies on Dakka. The other two are full of 
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Post by: Jollydevil
Commisar Von Humps wrote:Tau. They're dull and boring, and i played most of my first games against them and i hate how its litterally just sit and shoot. And God to i FETHING HATE Shield drones....
I dont like playing against tau because theres a way to tailor them to any way you need. At least orks and stuff have weanesses such as long range; tau have a unit for anything.
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Post by: purplefood
You know i did try to think about an army i dislike in anyway but it turns out i really don't...
I mean i could probably have fun making an army out of pretty much any codex.
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Post by: Jollydevil
purplefood wrote:You know i did try to think about an army i dislike in anyway but it turns out i really don't...
I mean i could probably have fun making an army out of pretty much any codex.
This.
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Post by: KingmanHighborn
I hate Necrons, the models are cool and the fluff is interesting but the army is one dimensional but very effective in it's one dimension. Then there is the Cron players that complain about thier army even when they dominate games.
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Post by: Tyranids? Tyranids.
Necrons. I'v only played a total of eight games and 4 of them have been against necrons. it wasn't even my fricken choice! Stupid tournies...
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Post by: Hazard30
I really really hate GK, I play orks and no matter what I do I always get tabled. My boyz die soo quickly. They seem to bring everything that I can't stand up against. My best chance is to tie on obective games. Their fluff also bugs me.
And to a lesser degree I don't like blood angels, between the fast moving vehicles and mephiston and the dreadnaughts I tend to also have a very hard time.
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Post by: JB_Man
Grey Knights and Blood Angels. They're [Mod Edit - Do not use that word that way here on Dakka - thanks!] armies which, when combined, encompass everything I hate about this game.
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Post by: Uhlan
I hate the Necrons because they're a really bad rip-off of the 'Terminator' and 'Matrix' movies. I have 2500 points of them I think.
I hate the Vanilla Marines because they're lords of suck that tend to be blue, but I have 1500 points of Ultras that I take to tournaments and do quite well.
I hate the Space Vamp... er, Blood Angels because, well, they're red vampires (yawn). I have a sizeable army of the crazed blood-drinking gods of close combat which I bring out when I have a hangover at tournaments and just want to 'point and shoot'.
I hate the Space Berserkers... Grey Marines... Space Wolves because they're sickly parodies of nordic myths, but I have 1500 points of them too because they're uber and you can't go wrong with Space Vikings!
I hate the Salamanders because they're green armored, black skinned and implausibly red eyed slightly boring do-gooders. I just started an army of the guys because I think they're green armored, black skinned, red eyed knights of intimidation!
I hate the Eldar because they refuse to admit they're space elfs and you can't win with them because every other army is far more masculine. I love the psychic-tech they use and the vehicles, to me, are second only in coolness factor to the Tau... weeeeeee!
I hate the Tau because they're blue-grey egalitarian midgets with tech based on japanese 'cartoons' and how can a race in the accendancy have such a gimped codex where it's impossible to ever win a combat? My second favorite army! I have around 3000 points all professionally painted in a white anime scheme.
I hate Chaos Marines because it's just a bunch of 'woe is me' degenerate vanilla marines ominously wreathed in shrouds of teen angst and additional suck. ...
I really hate the Orks because how can you take a race of idiot savant mushrooms who live for war seriously? One of my favorite armies, how can you go wrong with idiot savants who live for war?
These are the only factions I play. The others are too full of suck for me to care. I'm planning a Dark Eldar army as we speak!
Edited because I can't spell.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Uhlan wrote:I hate the Necrons because they're a really bad rip-off of the 'Terminator' and 'Matrix'
The Necrons may not have gotten a codex until 2002, but they existed as a race before the Matrix came out.
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Post by: Uhlan
Void__Dragon wrote:Uhlan wrote:I hate the Necrons because they're a really bad rip-off of the 'Terminator' and 'Matrix'
The Necrons may not have gotten a codex until 2002, but they existed as a race before the Matrix came out.
Their present incarnation and the art gives hints at the Matrix alien 'machines' imho.
My above post is completely sarcastic...
Again, I can't spell. At least I'm courteous and try not to debase the English language too much for the sake of the literate among us.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Uhlan wrote:Their present incarnation and the art gives hints at the Matrix alien 'machines' imho.
My above post is completely sarcastic...
Again, I can't spell. At least I'm courteous and try not to debase the English language too much for the sake of the literate among us.
They are alien machines, and that concept predates the Matrix. Sarcasm is no excuse for inaccuracy.
I could tell your post was obviously sarcastic.
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Post by: Uhlan
Void__Dragon wrote:Uhlan wrote:Their present incarnation and the art gives hints at the Matrix alien 'machines' imho.
My above post is completely sarcastic...
Again, I can't spell. At least I'm courteous and try not to debase the English language too much for the sake of the literate among us.
They are alien machines, and that concept predates the Matrix. Sarcasm is no excuse for inaccuracy.
I could tell your post was obviously sarcastic.
It's not inaccurate, the Terminator movies were originally the source for the necrons stylistically. Since then, additional miniatures have given a nod to the style of the alien Matrix machines. Purely subjective, but I think I'm right on this point.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Uhlan wrote:Void__Dragon wrote:It's not inaccurate, the Terminator movies were originally the source for the necrons stylistically. Since then, additional miniatures have given a nod to the style of the alien Matrix machines. Purely subjective, but I think I'm right on this point.
They never hid the fact that Terminator was an inspiration, "We'll Be Back" makes that obvious.
What, you mean the Tomb Spyders?
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