I want to start this post with a little story, a pain even, some of you are accustomed to aswell, probably. The name of this pain is Fine Cast and it hurts.
At first I had no intentions for modding any of the Sword Brethren from GW Fine Cast pack, but their poor quality forced me to. Now there's a new destiny ahead of this "fine" miniatures - they are going to become a bunch of conversions for my collection. So, here we go!
Unfortunately i haven't took a picture of him in his original shape, but this mini was the worst and therefor the first to be refined. It took a time and a bit of green stuff to clean and fix all the manufacturing flaws and made him look like a Blood Raven:
As for the ranged weapon he obviously needed i came up with such an simple and easy idea:
Any feedback is welcome. Thank you.
Hopefully, i will update this post soon =)
RSJake wrote:And looking at all of the green areas that still look to be un-converted, that mini must have been in bad shape!
To be honest, I was terrified when I saw this one for the first time: there was just a lot of hollow parts, air bubbles and even more was revealed, when I started to clean it with my knife. Fine Cast seems to be more of a Fail Cast from my point of view... Anyway, this forced Me to convert and I'm kinda happy with the result =)
I hate to critisize, even though I ask for it specifically in my projects, but if it's helpful, I always apreciate it. So...the armor seems to be a bit bumpy, if that is intensional, ignor this comment. But the same look on the cloak makes it look like real cloth! I really like the look of the cloak and robe! And the Raven Icon looks ace! Nice hazard stipes and heat discoloration on the flamer.
Overall, great job. I hope my next project come out as nice!
RSJake wrote:I hate to critisize, even though I ask for it specifically in my projects, but if it's helpful, I always apreciate it.
So do i =)
RSJake wrote:So...the armor seems to be a bit bumpy
The armour is so bumpy because of a horrid quality of the miniature itself and My inattention, since I was busy with fixing the holes in his body mostly and it was too late, when I've noticed this roughness =/
I think it's a good idea to make it looks like it was intentional - a some kind of a battle damage, maybe... But yet I have no idea how to actualize it. I should google it, I guess =)
I'm glad my critique was taken in the spirit it was givien. If you want to make it look like damage, you could paint a splotch of black around the area and then silver or boltgun inside that, making sure to leave a border of black to make it look like the paint was chipped off down to the bare metal. Bumpiness like that would be perfect to make it look like rust, but you probably don't want to go down that route. Be sure to post whatever you decide, I'll be checking back!
RSJake wrote:If you want to make it look like damage, you could paint a splotch of black around the area and then silver or boltgun inside that, making sure to leave a border of black to make it look like the paint was chipped off down to the bare metal. Bumpiness like that would be perfect to make it look like rust, but you probably don't want to go down that route.
Thank you for advice, but this bumpiness is all over the miniature and painting some battle damage over it will make it look like it's more dirty rather than a carefull painted rust or something like that, it seems to Me.
It's kinda an irony, but such effects looks much better on flat areas, in My humble opinion. Even though this is a great idea, I decided to leave Castor for now and head for some other convertions. May be I will be back to him some day later, but till that day it will be just a reminder for Me to be more attentive...
Anyway, it's time for the next Sword Brother to become a Command squad member as a Standard bearer. Here's a picture of some preparations:
Also, I'm thinking about converting this one into Apothecary:
You are correct of course on the fist guy, it would look more like a Nugle follower after you got it done. Save it for a time when you want to re-convert the whole army!
The Standard bearer looks very good! He looks like he's going to use the standard to put some hurt on someone!
RSJake wrote:The Standard bearer looks very good! He looks like he's going to use the standard to put some hurt on someone!
Aye, My first idea was to make some kind of a spear (chain-sword-on-a-pole, more like it) with a waving flag on it, but then I changed My mind towards something more logic and simple.
RSJake wrote:And third mini almost screams apothecary already!
Almost =)
While I was tinkering with miniatures for the last few hours, I got a much better idea, based on Team Fortress 2 medic appearence - some kind of a mad doctor in a lab coat over the power armour. Gotta be a tricky convertion...
Also, I'm a huge fan of Fallout universe, especially of the Brotherhood of Steel soldiers in power armour and with miniguns, so I always wondered, why there is no Space Marines with Assault cannons in their arms? Isn't it a classic concept of a heavy guy? From my point of view such a bulky and augmented being, as Space Marine just have to be able to shoot such a gun from the hip, thus, i deside to convert one
Here's what i've done so far:
He's going to be some kind of a Veteran hero, an option for my Command squad, probably... What could be his price in pt, I wonder?
Assault Cannons are pretty pricey, usually.... IIRC, the Assault Cannons are as expensive as Lascannons on Razorbacks, no ? I think the price you pay for a Terminator Assault Cannon should be good, maybe with a few points off for the Marine not being relentless... which will lower the chances to use it ?
Yggdrasil wrote:Assault Cannons are pretty pricey, usually.... IIRC, the Assault Cannons are as expensive as Lascannons on Razorbacks, no ?
I think the price you pay for a Terminator Assault Cannon should be good, maybe with a few points off for the Marine not being relentless... which will lower the chances to use it ?
I guess, Slow and Purposeful special rule fits just perfectly for such a model, so it will be +30 pts for this option, or should it be 25, since it's not a fully Relentless?
By the way, i have a little update on him:
A roughly pre-assambled ammo backpack and some fingers to hold the gun itself.
There's going to be an associated feed system on the backpack for the ammunition belt aswell as on the cannon, yet, i have a little idea how to do this belt... Any thoughts?
The pose for the Assault Cannon gunner is awesome! The handle looks good, and the backpack is going to look sweet with a feed belt! As for making said feed belt...it looks like the belts in the back pack are loose, if so, you could make a GS press mold. Then link several of the GS casts together and feed them from the back pack. If they are not loose, I would take a paperclip, or similar wire, cut it into lengths the same as the bullets in the backpack, sand or file one end to be slightly rounded and the other to be more squared off, and attach them together with GS. It would be a lengthy project, but I think it would look good.
Also, you could get a large Zip Tie, one with the ridges on both sides, and cut to fit. It will look like an ammo belt when painted.
RSJake wrote:The pose for the Assault Cannon gunner is awesome! The handle looks good, and the backpack is going to look sweet with a feed belt! As for making said feed belt...it looks like the belts in the back pack are loose, if so, you could make a GS press mold. Then link several of the GS casts together and feed them from the back pack. If they are not loose, I would take a paperclip, or similar wire, cut it into lengths the same as the bullets in the backpack, sand or file one end to be slightly rounded and the other to be more squared off, and attach them together with GS. It would be a lengthy project, but I think it would look good.
Also, you could get a large Zip Tie, one with the ridges on both sides, and cut to fit. It will look like an ammo belt when painted.
I was thinking about something similar to the Heavy Bolter's belts, but a Zip Tie sounds like a plan! Thank you for advices, I'm going to give it a try and, of course, I will post the results... sooner or later.
Thanks everyone for your responses! It's very motivating =)
DijnsK wrote:do you sculpt the blood raven emblem every time of do you use a mold for that?
I've sculpted those, but i want make some sort of a pattern for molding.
Campbell1004 wrote:Want more please... mouth is watering.
FOR MINIS
Your wish is my desire
Here we go:
Here's the ammunition belt pre-assembled. As a goodfella RSJake suggested, i used a Zip Tie and it worked quite well, i guess.
Ofcourse, there's much work to be done yet.
Yay! I'm glad it worked! It looks good! I haven't actually tried this yet, I just thought it would be a great idea after finding one in my tool box and thinking "Hey...this could work for an ammo belt!" I'll definately try it now!
Did you have to heat it up at all to stay in that shape?
Thanks everyone for your comments. I appreciate it.
RSJake wrote:Did you have to heat it up at all to stay in that shape?
Yes. I've tried to soften it by the boiling water first. Than tried to hold it under the lamp... But surprisingly such a heat wasn't enough, so i had to "melt" it on the gas burner and that's why the belt have charred edges. It was kinda tricky to give it a propper shape =)
1-i wrote:Two zip ties glued together then greenstuffed the sides?
Exactly.
I had only one-sided zip tie in my "junk pile" and was too lazy to visit the store, but I want to try an industrial tie aswell as some other options... A quest for perfection isn't that easy, is it? =)
At last, a bit of news, but not about the mini itself this time, but rather about a base for one.
It's known, that the basing is very important for overall impression and this one going to be my first experience of something more serious, than gluing a pinch of sand and few stones on the plastic base, so i want to hear your opinions and advices on this subject, my fellow Dakkers.
It's supposed to be two broken concrete slabs, covered with grit:
PS:
And yes, from some point of view, it is a pinch of sand and few stones glued on a plastic base
Excuse me my long absence, fellow Dakkers - I was away from the workbench for quite a while, but now I'm back on a track, filled with enthusiasm to finish what should be finished and start a lot of new projects I bare in my mind. But off with the boring mumbling, there's some pics for you to show:
Not an impressive update, I understand, but at least something to stay in touch =)
Some details were added here and there, but backpack is far from completion yet. I'll throw more rivets and some decoration on this ammo pack.
Also, I wasn't satisfied with the ammunition belt, so I desided to remake it completely. Thanks to my good friend Storag who brought me this pressed end of a tooth paste plastic tube, wich I'm going to use as a fundation.
Here's the base idea for the belt:
Also, my hands were itchy for some painting, so here's another victim of my brush:
Torturing is in process
Well, that's all for now. I hope i'll post more updates soon.
What I'm thinking about is how the ammo tape from this picture you posted will look when transferred to this scale and on this particular mini...
I think that the segments will either be to big and clumsy or to small just like the original relief of that plastic base... I do have a load of orc shoota bullets you might want to glue to the deepenings on front side of the tape. I think they will fit perfectly and it will look like a real ammo belt instead of some abstract geometrical blocks.
The guy with the PF looks like he's performing some Street Fighter move The stripes are too wide for my taste.
I typically will skim read and quickly look at pictures due to limited time... however your assault cannon toting marine made me stop not once, not twice, but three times. I then sat and look at the whole thing in depth for about 3 minutes.
I typically will skim read and quickly look at pictures due to limited time... however your assault cannon toting marine made me stop not once, not twice, but three times. I then sat and look at the whole thing in depth for about 3 minutes.
It's an extremely awesome model.
Wow.
Thank you, i'm really flattered.
@storag Well, I'm going to try some other options on that ammunition belt, until I'll be fully satisfied with the results... All in all, I've got all the time in the world
Anyway, as promised, here's some pics of other ongoing projects:
A long forgotten standard bearer and the concept of his plinth.
And a veteran with concept of unique and "better-than-avarage" plasma gun. I'm going to remove this lanter between his legs and upgrade the plasma and backpack with more details, like additional exhaust system, since the backpack represents some kind of a cooler for the gun
RSJake wrote:And the plasma gunner is great! The backpack is a neat concept, and you should put some sort of fan or vent on it!
That's exactly what I want to do. Just cut a two nice vents from some oldschool SM backpack. I will post the pics a bit later though.
RSJake wrote:I feel I have run out of words to describe your stuff! I will sound like a broken record soon!
Call me a compliment whore, but i can listen to this record all day long Well, who doesn't anyway...
And of course here comes a little update!
A just finished this Veteran at last and i hope i didn't miss anything:
Also, I made some details for the Assault cannon and added a nameplate to the base for the Heavy guy, as for any unique character in my Army. Added a closeup on the Raven shoulderpad aswell:
Vet looks great! I wish my stuff looked as nice. But then I would actually have to spend more time painting and less time converting, and then I would be sad.
Auto cannon guy looks amazing! You are really getting good at the shoulder pad symbol! And the base name plate is a great idea! Consider that stolen!
I found that the Crux on his right shoulder gets lost in the white, You would almost have more luck going quite dark on the outer rim and then having the light gold in the centre, just to give some definition and distinction.
RSJake wrote:Vet looks great! I wish my stuff looked as nice. But then I would actually have to spend more time painting and less time converting, and then I would be sad.
Well, I'm trying to do my best with every and each miniature I put my brush on, but yes, everyone have it's own way in modeling hobby, e.g. my friend Storag being a great modeller dislikes painting heavily
RSJake wrote:Auto cannon guy looks amazing! You are really getting good at the shoulder pad symbol!
Thank you. I should finish this loooong-running project at last...
RSJake wrote:And the base name plate is a great idea! Consider that stolen!
Steal it away freely. I'm happy you like this idea I sculpt name plates for every character I deem worthy of unique representation. Some of those you can see in my gallery
Knightley wrote:The Vet looks pretty good!
If you are open to idea's:
I found that the Crux on his right shoulder gets lost in the white, You would almost have more luck going quite dark on the outer rim and then having the light gold in the centre, just to give some definition and distinction.
Thanks. I always appreciate any critiques. And yes, I really was a bit lazy with this crux and forgot to wash the outer rim and highlight the inner area of the cross. The miniature is covered with the matt varnish now, but i guess it's okey to paint over it? I'm thinking about repainting the ribs of the crux with Boltgun metal, wash it with Badab Black and highlight with Silver, while leaving the rim and the scull shining gold.
Your models are absolutely amazing, I really love the mini gun. I know I am a bit late to the party, but have you considered looking at Zinge Industries, they do flexible ammo belts which would have saved you melting stuff.
dantay_xv wrote:Your models are absolutely amazing, I really love the mini gun. I know I am a bit late to the party, but have you considered looking at Zinge Industries, they do flexible ammo belts which would have saved you melting stuff.
Thank you. I just ordered the belts from Zinge, but according to fact I live in Russia the shipment can never reach my destination I'm pretty sure I can do such belts by myself as soon as I refresh my plasticard stock, but I hope the Zinge product will save my time.
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:That guy with the fist is definitely performing a shoryuken Ryu would approve
Love the fact you've taken BT's and made them into ravens, they are fantastic models
Mind if I borrow the concept?
I definitely should make a nameplate for him with the name Ryu on it And thanks for comments. Sure, I don't mind.
Hello everyone and today I want to share something new with you
An idea I came up with about a month ago - quite a trivial one, probably, but I like it anyway and decided to start another project, based on this concept: a heavy Stormtroopers, fairly mobile, armoured and bearing a powerfull anti-personnel weapons. Some kind of a cheap replacement for Terminators So, meet the Shock Squad:
A very early WIP... Yes, I'm doing things slooooow Here's short version of fluff behind this guys: Shock squad are the main assault force, designed to supress the enemy with intensive storm of fire, mostly in a close quarters, like cities, catacombs or space hulks, thus they are armed with Heavy Bolters of a special pattern, utilizing the suspender-like mechanism wich allows bearers to advance slowly even while shooting their monstrous weapons. Something like activatable Slow and Purposeful special rule with 24" fire range, I guess.
Thanks everyone for responses. I really appreciate your attention to my projects
And here comes a little update on those heavy gunners. A bases for the first two guys:
Also I'm trying to posture the third one in a bit different way, so I'm eager to hear your opinion (of course I will remade the hand to match the overall armour style and replace this copper wire with a propper chain.):
That dude with assault cannon is just so cool... cant wait to see him fully painted and ready HB needs ammobelt/-box... but i know you already knew this
Lovely stuff here. And the painting still has them looking pretty good, as some conversions are let down by the paintjob. Not here. Well done.
I believe that your shock troops idea is already (sorta) there from FWhttp://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/SPACE-MARINE-BOARDING-ASSAULT-UPGRADE-SET.html Yours would fit quite well with this as a heavy weapon added to these with bolters!
@Halkomahooli:
Thank you.
I'm still thinking on the design of ammo boxes, but it will be rotary magazines more likely.
@Capitansolstice:
Thanks, man!
@The Epic Chaosdude!!!:
Well, it will be more sooner or later
@Imperial Monkey
Thanks! And yes, my idea is based (sorta) on the image of those Boarding Assault SM, yet, it's a bit different. The bulk of the squad will be four HB gunners, a Sergean, of course, and as an option - an additional up to five SM with Storm Bolters and shields. I'm Still thinking about the special rules and pt costs of this squad...
The main idea of the conversion is that this guy carries almost an ordinary plasma gun, but upgrated with a huge ammo chamber, additional generator and cooling system on his back, wich allows him to shoot rapidly without overheating and gives an option to overcharge the weapon for a heavy shot like Plasma Cannon. Thus there's a three wires joined to the gun - the gas feed, the coolant feed and the energy cable, all attached into the box, wich I will paint with hazard stripes, to avoid GSing details on it + simple yet effective So a bit of polishing and fixing and the plasma gunner is finished, but I will be glad to hear any ideas on how to improve him even further. Should I make the plasma itself more unique? And what do you think about the Backpack design?
i just found this thread of yours and boy are you packing it full with delicious stuff... about the current plasma guy... very sound concept and the executionis looking cool! only downside to this great model in my view is the slighly deformed looking head... some gs or something so that he doesn´t keep on looking like Frank N. Stein... guess it is the bolt in his head^^... the backpack is really looking good and i like how you come up with the look GW would have done too if they cared a bit more about a cool looking model... so i will be sticking to your stuff now^^ great... another good thread to follow... as if i dídn´t have a zillion to follow already^^
Welome to my thread, Vic! Nice to see you here and thanks for participation!
I totally agree about his head - it really looks a bit creepy... I was thinking on this matter and came up with a several ideas: I can sculpt some kind of a mask or goggles, may be a full helmet even, I can cut the entire head off and exchange it, or I can simply change his position, slightly moving up his left side so the head will looks straight and his entire pose will be less clumsy, saving me time and giving a good reason to name him Stein And I think if GW had more cool looking models we had less room for our imagination, though the room given is a way too large Oh, I know this feeling... It's just an incredible amount of amazing threads to follow on Dakka and I wish I had more time to comment everywhere, at least to show respect to someone's great job.
yep incredible ammount all right! if i had my little say i said: sculpt... you are a good sculpter and i think you have begun to make this mini a totally unique one so make it even more special... you probably know by know that i am one for steampunky appearances... so i vote for googles...mask is a maybe... could look cool too... but i bet whatever you yourself come up with it will be brilliant!
Thanks, mate.
I've followed your advice and tried to make a goggles, more of a modern style though, not steampunk for obvious reason... I'm thinking about something like Riddick's goggles, but the foundation shape I've just sculpted looks more of a serfer style, one of those beach masculine show-offs Anyway, a goggles for this guy are not just a distinctive detail, but a practical tool - and eye protection, for when you have to shoot such an overcharged Plasma gun there's a real danger of getting corneal flash burns, I suppose.
Ah, and here's the pic of alpha version of those goggles:
he reminds me more of neo from matrix ^^ but i think you are on the route for winning with this head now... the look has gain a ton now! far better than before! will be interresting to see how you will cope with these glasses when painting him.... verrry interresting!
The googles should obviously feature a side targeter scope and rather massive outer frame. At least on upper line. This matrix look is not for SM, way too slick for these hulking brutes.
@Vic: Whoa, a half-tonn (or even more?) bulky SM running on the wall like Neo is scary... Anyway, this GS is just a basic shape for further modification.
@megabambam: Thanks, man! But I'm a slowpoke :/
@storag: Yeap, mate. That's the idea!
@Depraved: But seriously, that sounds like a proper option. Oh, damn, I have to choose!
@Primarch_of_mechmarines & Capitansolstice: Everything is possible
Even though It's a shame to post such a small update, but here's a beta version of his goggles and I eager to hear your opinion!
I think I should throw a few rivets on each side and add a tiny outer rim on the front side around the lenses.
no... you didn´t just ask IF you should add rivets... lol...you did, didn´t you...er...
looks very cool... now this looks like goggles to me...how come people can make such tiny rims on that scale and all i can do is making bumpy surfaces...argh... i hope there will be later when painted some nice and flashy effects on those lesnes...mabye you could add some cables to the goggles? like it is a targeting system so it might be wirded to further hardware... either the gun or somewhere else...
Yes I think that the goggles would be better with wiring, the only problem IMHO is that they kiind of look like orky burna goggles, whatever floats your boat though.
@Vic:
Did I? Well, it took me about two hours to make this small adjustment - so I'd say it's all about stubborness and carefulness. Sometimes I'm stubborn, but never carefull - in fact I've ruined the construction after an hour of work and had to redo the whole thing again.
As for the cables... There's a default one on the left side, but it looks a bit... Well, I don't want to say "bad", but rather "FineCastish", so probabbly I should redo it aswell. Also I've just noticed how clumsy he looks assembled due to this wierd shield thing on his left shoulder, so I guess I will cut it off. To be honest after I spent so much time working with those Fine Casts I got a strong feeling they were sculpted only for commercial purpose, without any sence of art behind them... So ridiculous and substandard they are!
As for painting... Well, it will be interesting, as I have a little idea how to paint it right now. A bright green with those flashy effects you talking about, probably.
@Capitansolstice:
Well, as with the Orc Burnas, the concept was inspired by welding goggles, but yes, I should add some distinctive details.
@Rogue Wolves:
Thank you! And definitely there will be few rivets. Everyone loves rivets!
Well, it took me about two hours to make this small adjustment - so I'd say it's all about stubborness and carefulness. Sometimes I'm stubborn, but never carefull - in fact I've ruined the construction after an hour of work and had to redo the whole thing again.
lol... i feel your pain... happens to me all the time... i am still a totally noob when it comes to GS....
Viktor von Domm wrote:one for the leqaue it seems^^
Just a bit more rivets for the Rivet Throne
Viktor von Domm wrote:lol... i feel your pain... happens to me all the time... i am still a totally noob when it comes to GS....
The most painfull disaster for me is to find pieces of my hairs in GS Well, I'm a noob aswell, but the more you do, the better it gets. Russians say "eyes are afraid, but hands are doing", so it all comes to stubborness and carefulness as always. I guess you saw those nice tips on working with GS by storag.
yep read them and i willtry to work acordingly next time i work with GS...
by the way... i realized i saw quite a russian tidal wave apeariung here on dakka... or is it me just making frends in the russian sector recently or it might be just stupid pattern thinking^^
thad be dimity, storag and ishkatar...well every drop counts^^ and by the way as you three are bloody brilliant in your creative prowess you count for more than just one each^^
I've got a shipment from Zinge at last - those famouse flexible ammo belts. And I must say it's amazing stuff: crisp details, no molding lines, realy easy to bend and it holds the shape thanks to thin metal wire inside the belt (a very smart engineering decision!). Thus I got back to work on my Heavy guy and I think he's almost finished:
that zinge belt really brings the mini a step even futher... truly epic stuff from zinge... have someof his bitz too... and you show again that the stuff is made for glory^^ youor mini looks great!
@El Vic:
Thanks, mate!
Great stuff, indeed. Zinge made my life easier. By the way, I've added a lot of rivets on the backpack
@Jake:
Thank you!
To be honest, there are just a lot of small flaws all over the mini, e.g. a bit uneven backpack, but, hey, it was a valuable experience and I want to finish this damn model at last!
@Capitansolstice:
Thanks, man!
And here's my progress:
I'm a really crappy photographer, so the pic doesn't show a zenithal highlighting properly, however the main purpose of posting this is to show my first attempt on rusty elements.
hah... he says he added rivets to the backpack and then only shows the torso^^ lol... and by the way the pics aren´t that crappy... i really like the red... it is a nice and bloody red...living almost... and the base is just cool, the tine splotch of goo coming through the pipe is just priceless...
Not THAT crappy, but yet - crappy I should make a propper light-box. As for the red - I'm trying to paint zenithal highlighting, from a very dark (almost brown) basecoat red to the blood red with some orange extreems.
@Capitansolstice: Thanks! I've spent some time to mix a propper colour for the rust and I think it worked out pretty well.
And the idea of the goo was shamelessly stolen from one of those awesome pics on CMON
this highlighting technique sounds very interesting... which eplains why you need so much time then.. of course if you invest so much time in the built up of the colors,.,,, we definatly need better pics...
oh hadn´t realised them rivets in the previous pic^^
now enlighted i see^^ i was too fascinated by the amobelt and the big gun... even a riveter can get carried away...
@El Vic:
Well, Zenithal is really easy and even not that time consuming, especially if you have an Airbrush. I'm just a very slow painter, smudging lazily with my brush over and over again at one spot even if there's nothing to paint already There's a great article at From The Warp about zenithal highlighting.
Wow, that's a hell of a compliment from a Riveter!
@Horst:
Indeed!
And no, I use a simple brush and a lot of blending. Airbrush is an awesome tool, though you need a propper workspace, better with a good vent, if you don't want to find yourself in the hospital with some lungs problems... Not for my small flat
LOL... homeless servant of the emperor...now that is a new one^^
by the way... might be due to the harsh light but i think the wrinkle above the real eye should geta bit of a darker shadow...to make him look a bit more menacing? coould be of course that you already did that and the light took that aways for the pics...
According to fact that Blood Ravens don't have a planetary fortress and is a fleet-based chapter, they ARE homeless servant of the emperor indeed That's true - he really should frown. I've painted a gray eyebrow at first, then repainted it... Don't know why. Should paint it back again.
yeah i guess that would suit him quite well... fronwing bum... lol... and do something to make the lensed eye a bit more sparkly... i think that way his face would be more "lit" up... no seriously i think a bit of enegry would make his face way more agressive...
Tnanks, that's a very useful pic. And that's what I'm thinking about... Found a nice guide too.
Should be easy. I did that with a drop of blood on the shoulderpad Blood Raven icon before.
You're welcome, sir.
Indeed, even the hardest things becomes much more easier, when you got a propper explanation or a guide to make you understand a core mechanics. Now to the paiting! Well, as soon as I'll repair my table lamp, wich I broke this night trying to take a shot of the head on a stick...
I wish it to be truth, but I bet it's all about Chinese manufacturing quality... Anyway I should start another project here - a Repair of Lamp, since I've spent much more GS and glue on this thing, than on any of my models
lol.... will this then be under P&M blogs or just a paining and modeling thread...and...where is the difference...and...well chineese manufacturing quality...er...is this a theme we should discuss...or more cuss...^^
Chinese manufacturing quality is just a fact we should live with But, to be fair, their production is of a decent quality this days in most cases... Better, than FineCast anyway
rofl....that is even more humilating...and it isn´t the probelm that we have to live with the püroduction quality...no...we are in deep to not die due of this matter...same as their workers producing the gak...just google for coloring cloth...
Well, it's a discussion for hundred pages, involving global politic and economic questions... Something I'm trying not to think at least at my hobby workbench, but such thoughts inexorably come to my mind. And excuse me, I think I didn't understand it quite right, but what is "gak"?
Anyway, back on the track: I'm thinking about a propper colour for the backpack of my Heavy guy - should it be red, like I used for the armour and backpacks on my previouse models, of black/metallic? What are your suggestions, my fellow Dakkanauts?
In fact, his armour is mostly hidden behind his monstrous weapon, wich will be metallic, so personally I think, I'll try to mix red and black/metallic on his backpack. Well, we'll see...
As for gak, the Urban Dictionary gives a lot of definitions, wich is rather confusing. I have no idea about Warhammer lingo, unfortunately. I even haven't played any games, since I don't want to play with unfinished army, and my army is far from that state
And horray! I've fixed the lamp, so here's a pic (darken a bit) of his new lens and eyebrow:
A whole hour, a lot of cursing and it turned out fairly well, yet, I have to clean all those wierd green splashes on the outer rim - that doesn't looks like OSL anyway.
seeing your new version of the head i can only say that he now looks very mature... a true vet!
the green splashes i think too you should get rid of...the lense is looking fantastic! the amount of detail is breathtaking! it would be a real pleasure to have a zoomable pic to look at! could you be persuaded to upload one here at dakka?
also i can only say i am of the same idea to only play with a fully painted army... a grey army would terribly spoil a game for me...i couldn´t identify with the models and i think i would make careless decisions in game...
as for the amobackpack...i guess regarding that most of the body will be covered by the gun is a valid thought to then make the backpack also red...so i withdraw my ideas hereby! and by the way... i am not a cursing guy on a regular base so i think i can skip next time the lecture of so called swearwords^^
Hooray! That's exactly what I was trying to achieve - an image of seasoned veteran, unpleasant and dangerous.
Sure, I'll post a bigger pic as soon as those splashes will be fixed. To be honest, on zoomed pics his face doesn't look so smooth. I don't fully understand yet, how those Pro-painters achive such a clean and crisp appearance on their miniatures... Well, if not take in account the great amount of experience and dedication, of course.
Aye, I know that feeling!
So it was that we first tried to play with our Black Reach unpainted figures with Storag... And It was ended in a few minutes and the box of Black Reach buried deep within the wardrobe for three years. By the way, this box still is in the wardrobe
Well, I didn't meant to read lecture anyway.
Ha, And I think after the evening of tinkering with my lamp I can be called a cursing guy from now on
well i think it has something to do with the whole starter kit... i have in my collection some orks and SM from the black reach assortment...and for me the models lack possibilities...they have only the most basic poses...well storag sure gets the best out of his orks...that is oh so true^^ but for me the thing with the SM arms is rather unpleasant...i began with the stuff there and after the first few minis i saw the limits of these plastic sculpts...
and to your thoughts about the smooth finish...dunno...one thing is clear tho... i wouldn´t dream acusing you of using to thick paint as you have shown on numerous ocasions that you aply only very thin coats of paint...so i guess it must have to do with either a secret ingredient or more expierience...and the good part is you are on both choices only a few steps apart^^
Great job on the head! It looks great! And if you hadn't said anything, I would have said it was done. Green blobs? I don't see them, just looks like OSL to me.
As for GAK, I'm not sure where it comes from, and I rarely use it, it's too strong a word for me, so is Frack. I am not above using Feth though...so don't Fething Frack me off, or you'll be stepping in the Gak! If you know what I mean.
I agree with the limitations of the Black Reach box, but they are great base models for conversions, so I like them! I especially can't wait to convert the Deff Kopters to Deff jets! I just need to get some projects done so I can work on them.
@El Vic:
Well, the tinkering was tricky, as the plastic the lamp was made off turns out to be brittle solid and immune to the super glue for some mystery reason. Anyway, the Makita drill and 2mm wide and very long metal pintle fixed the problem.
Indeed, the whole starter set is rather boring... Though it's a good way to start with the hobby, yet, the most disappointing one, for when you got used to the idea of conversions you just can't accept the default models anymore.
And, as promised, a picture of Head for you, not zoomable, unfortunately, but I've made it big enough to see all the details, I hope.
@Norn King
Thank you and welcome aboard!
@Jake:
Thanks, mate!
Now that's sound slangy
Koptas are indeed the best models inside the whole box. I hope to see your Jets WIP and finished one day!
I've been following your work mostly in the ++Painting Comp++ thread, but there's a whole treasure trove of stuff here! I love your work with the sword bretheren: they are such cool models and (now that they're available in resin) lend themselves to great conversions.
Well, the metal rod I used is some kind of a rivet, so...
@Rawson Hey, thanks! It's nice to see you here!
And yes, it's an update time... It's been a long jorney, but... Finished!!!
You can click the pic for a zoomable picture in Dakka gallery
A short fluff entry:
Spoiler:
So here he stands tall, "Loud" Gunter, veteran and master of battlefront, famouse not only for his incredible strength, courage and booming voice, but for his weapon of type, rarely seen in the arms of Space Marines - his assault cannon "The Emperor's Roar". This artifact was a gift from Magos Explorator, whos excavation mission was overwhelmed by the horde of rampaging Orc looters and nearly wiped out, when the rescue team, lead by Sergeant Gunter, descended from the orbit right in between, protecting the remaining Techpriests like a living but impenetrable shield. With cold blood and Bolter fire they held the line, yet the numbers of xenos seemed endless... So not to say about the defenders. And it was then he saw an assault cannon amongst other artifacts, recovered by the Techpriests, locked and loaded, ready to spill the blood of unclean, and in a moment later the six-barreled vengeance was risen and the mighty roar flew over the battlefield as the veteran shredded through the greenskin ranks with unbridled wrath and thousands shells. The battle was over in no time as the hundreds Orcs were ripped apart in a blink of an eye. "Now it is yours" - the Magus said as the echoes of cannon fire died away "The spirit of the weapon has chosen you. THE Emperor himself has chosen you". So the artifact got it's name. And it is interesting to note, that no one of the Expedition can recall the cannon being loaded as it was recovered in unusable condition.
Keep in mind, that writing such texts in English is... unusual for me, so feel free to correct my grammar and whatnot.
Awesome conversions! I love them. Ive been told a lot about the way the Blood Ravens are represented in the BL books, but dont really have any of them to read. I don't really accept the Computer games as canon, but that's all i know about the Blood Ravens.
Anyway, went on a little tangent. Your Assault cannon marine is plain epic, and the fluff is awesome. Subscribed for sure.
I dont remember how long it took for you to paint this but the time spent was well worth it. That drip on the base, considering how much effort went into the base model I feel that drip is an outstanding addition and shows just how awesome your work is.
Fan-frickin-tastic! I love the yellow color for the cannon, and the decals on the backpack! Excellent work! I also agree with RSJake
RSJake wrote:I also like the fluff! I got goose bumps on my arms as I read the last line!
I thought the fluff was just alright until the last line, then it all came together! "...as it was recovered in unusable condition..." Love it!
My one piece of CC: you did a nice job on the heat discoloration on the mid section of the barrels, but the very ends are still nice and shiny. I think a little more of the blue-ish color there would be good.
what can one mere abuser of brushes and waster of paint say to this...it litterally floored me...
he truly emits the power of the blood ravens... i like him very much... the yellow on the cannon looks very good and since you stated in the fluff that it is next to a holy weapon the thing sure shows it!
i really like that epic short piece of fluff... and even so i saw some errors...i´d rather go toe to toe with a russian bear than correct anything from that^^
by the way, since we had that little creative chat for the name... great choice! sometimes non latin names have much more power!
and the only minor point i could add here is just possible because of rawson, as i wouldn´t have spotted that... but indeed the muzzles of the barres could do with the blue stain too...
other than that...wow...and i really mean it when i say...thanks for sharing...
by the way...how do you create that multiposed pic? how do you get all those shots so seamless together? that is something i have to get to master too...^^
That's a pretty epic model. I think I'd let you house rule use it just for being so damned awesome. It really did come together upon completion.
Though perhaps, given the nature of the Blood Ravens' armory from the Dawn of War games, a funnier history for the assault cannon would for it to have previously belonged to another Chapter.
ishkatar wrote:@El Vic:
The head tells "You're welcome"
Well, the metal rod I used is some kind of a rivet, so...
@Rawson
Hey, thanks! It's nice to see you here!
And yes, it's an update time... It's been a long jorney, but... Finished!!!
You can click the pic for a larger image in Dakka galerry.
A short fluff entry:
Spoiler:
So here he stands tall, "Loud" Gunter, veteran and master of battlefront, famous not only for his incredible strength, courage and booming voice, but for his weapon of type, rarely seen in the arms of Space Marines - his assault cannon "The Emperor's Roar".
This artefact was a gift from Magos Explorator, whos excavation mission were overwhelmed by the hordes of rampaging Orc looters and nearly wiped out, when the rescue team, lead by Sergeant Gunter descended from the orbit right in between, protecting the remaining Techpriests like a living but impenetrable shield.
With cold blood and Bolter fire they held the line, yet the numbers of xenos seemed endless... So not to say about the defenders...
And it was then he saw an assault cannon amongst other artefacts, recovered by the Techpriests, locked and loaded, ready to spill the blood of unclean, and in a moment later the six barrels were risen and the mighty roar flew over the battlefield as the veteran shredded through the greenskin's ranks with unbridled wrath and thousand shells. The battle was over in no time as the hundred of Orcs were ripped apart in a blink of an eye.
"Now it is yours" - the Magus said as the echoes of cannon fire died away "The spirit of the weapon has chosen you. THE Emperor himself has chosen you".
So the artefact got it's name. And it is interesting to note, that no one of the Expedition can recall the cannon being loaded as it was recovered in unusable condition.
Keep in mind, that writing such texts in English is... unusual for me, so feel free to correct my grammar and whatnot.
Only one correction in the grammar in the spoiler, well written! Love the model, I'm really tempted to yoink that idea and make one myself! Great work!
Oh my, that's whole lotta comments! It seems I'll need more "thanking" words...
@Jake:
Thanks, mate!
I hope your jaw is alright
@Obsidian Raven:
Dankie (Is it the word?) and welcome to this P&M blog!
In fact, I don't base my models and fluff on the DoW series, though it's a decent game.
As far as I know, many people on the Internet don't like those guys, but I think it's a great choice for heavily converted SM army. Since the Chapter doesn't have an official codex and all the information about them comes from Computer games either novels, there are a lot of room for some imagination and speculation, so I've shamelessly stole the colour scheme, the name and the very basic lore, pulled mostly from this article at Lexicanum. I'll post some fluff about my guys a bit later.
@1-i:
Thank you!
It took about five evenings to paint the model - one for each of four parts (the body with base, hands with the gun, head and backpack) and one for assembling and polishing.
And many more evenings to make the model itself
@Rawson:
Mange tak!
And those are no decals but a freehand As for the color of tempered metal, I got your point... I did a little research on that matter before painting, some Google Fu and even asked one welder from my job. He said the colours can differ depending on the alloy type, heating and cooling, also, those pictures are very illustrative: one and two. According to the article on Lexicanum the barrels can reach temperatures of over 300°, and 40k Wikia state it as "over 300°F", thus it's kinda not clear, if the barrels can have such an effect at all... After I digged deeper in this, my brain nearly exploded, so at the end I just used this nice guide at From the Warp for painting: How to paint heat stained gun barrels I guess I should think about this once again and give the muzzle some lighter blue... Should I?
@El Vic:
Danke!
Well, my English is pretty "Intermediate", so any corrections are welcomed! As for the Russion bear - take some Condensed milk with you and the bear will be your friend... For at least as long as you have sweeties The multiposed pic is a Photoshop Fu - I've cropped, cut and pasted the objects from different pics into one and aligned them with the help of guide lines, as you can see on this picture. You should try it - it's not so hard and there are planty of guides on the Internet.
Another interesting note about the divine nature of his weapon... There's one trick in the fluff, not obvious one though. As the story pointed out, nearly the whole expedition of Techpriests was wiped out by the Orcs, so it's not surprising that noone can recall anything and no logs remained. Thus there's a possibility, that the cannon was actually repaired and loaded by some random servitor and it's only a typical Imperial superstition and practice to search divine purpose everywhere draws the legend beyond common sense... Yet the truth remain mystery.
@Veteran Sergeant:
Thank you kindly!
I'm still working on the rules for this guy, but the basic idea is to give him some kind of activatable Slow and Purposeful special rule.
And of course I will abuse this stereotype about Blood Ravens in my future fluff entries
@Capitansolstice:
Thanks a lot, bro!
@LazzurusMan:
Thank you!
@Norn King:
A lot of DAKKA indeed
@Reaper Man:
Thank you very much!
Oh yes, the times. Something which is always a mess for a Russian mind with only three "times" in our language. I've fixed the grammar, as you pointed out.
And don't forget to send me a word, when you'll start to make your gunner. Bring more minigun into the world!
For those who might wonder, the next project will be a commission for my good friend Storag - his beautiful Grot Gunslinger needs some love and colours... But for now I'm off for some good ol' geek fun:
Dankie is indeed correct nice to know that my second language isn't a complete mystery to some, since sometimes it sneaks its way into my normal speech patterns. I manage to avoid it in text largely, though.
Randomness aside, I actually really like the Blood Ravens' fluff. Its awesome. I hope you have an Epic Librarian planned. I wouldn't doubt him being epic, though, looking at what you can do.
ishkatar wrote:
@Rawson:
Mange tak!
And those are no decals but a freehand As for the color of tempered metal, I got your point... I did a little research on that matter before painting, some Google Fu and even asked one welder from my job. He said the colours can differ depending on the alloy type, heating and cooling, also, those pictures are very illustrative: one and two. According to the article on Lexicanum the barrels can reach temperatures of over 300°, and 40k Wikia state it as "over 300°F", thus it's kinda not clear, if the barrels can have such an effect at all... After I digged deeper in this, my brain nearly exploded, so at the end I just used this nice guide at From the Warp for painting: How to paint heat stained gun barrels I guess I should think about this once again and give the muzzle some lighter blue... Should I?
Don't think too hard there, ishkatar! I wasn't doubting that there would be heat discoloration at all. What you have already painted looks fantastic! My comment was on a more consitancy note: if there is discoloration in the middle sections of the barrels, then there should also be discoloration on the tips of the barrels (the tips sticking out past that barrel strap). Is that a little more clear?
@ Rawson - the guide Ish used suggests that at the end of a barrel the heat is so intense that steel goes very bright-grey, almost white. I think that was his point, but I may be wrong.
the guides are pretty sound to me...but again i only say this as a laymen...
so condensed milk...check... now always something to keep the bloodsugar on a certain level will be with me^^
thanks for the showing of how you positioned the different shots into one beautiful pic! that was very helpful... once i get me a tripod this will be the way to partray my minis in the future!
by the way... i had an extensive course in the whole adobe thingy and i shoudl have come up with that by myself...but well... ^^
also i like how you brought common sense in for a second only to bring on mystery back again^^ that is a true conjurer´s virtue^^
ah and finally... what i wanted to add...: every time i read EL vic... that really makes me smile/blush... i feel quite honored^^ sounds cool as hell...er...you know what i mean by that^^
and you doing commisionswork for storags cool grots....about time those get a decent lick of paint on them... by the way...these really made me edgy about one far off day to start a grot revolution too... what hampers me is that no one again needs a red revolution... so until i have a striking idea as to who or whoom they could represent that is in my todo list... (volume 12145246256)
storag wrote:@ Rawson - the guide Ish used suggests that at the end of a barrel the heat is so intense that steel goes very bright-grey, almost white. I think that was his point, but I may be wrong.
Well, I'm caught. I definately didn't read those tutorials before, and just tried to clarify the confusion that turned out to be non existant. I thought the bright-grey part of the tutorial seemed strange, so I did some google research. And what do you know, that's really the way it looks. So here's me taking my foot out of my mouth
@Obsidian Raven: Indeed, the overall fluff is kinda nice and interesting, but mostly as a foundation for my guys, who are not just a simple Company within the chapter... I have to spend some time at last to write in at least a basic story behind my future army. And yes, I plan to make some kind of a Librarian squad I doubt it will happen soon.
@Rawson: Well, Storag has already made my point clear, though I had to do it by myself, instead of posting the overwhelming amount of wierd links
@El Vic: Condensed milk is always nice to have anyway, despite the bears Por favor, amigo! Not that it make sence to write in Spanish to the German guy, yet this "El" kinda obliges Aye, Grots are cool as hell. I wish I had more time and dedication to paint Storag's Orcs aswell... Oh, we will see. Well, I like the representation of Warcraft Goblins - those smartass traders and tinkerers, who prefer to use big (and dumb) beings to fight for them. I imagine the bunch of this PIMPed small fellas protected by an army of Ogre-like monsters with big guns.
@MrMerlin: Thanks, man! Welcome to the blog, by the way
Aghrrr... Must... Not... Play... That... Much... *Resistance attempt failed. Had to go back to Skyrim*
that is a nice idea... haveing some brutes to defend the small but cunning grots...very nice ideed....and i think your skill would look quite well on the mostly cothed new orks of storag...i think you could work wonders on the cloth...
@Zinge:
Thanks and welcome! It's nice to see you here
@El Vic:
It's my honor to name you that way, though the credits should go to Chibi Bodge-Battle Aye, big guys always should protect small guys... Should they?
Well, maybe, if only my wishes were not beyond my possibilities... But a man can dream... A man can dream
@Storag:
Isn't it something ordinary, when our fate is determined without us even knowing, my friend?
Whoa, that's creepy
Anyway, I have overcome the Skyrim madness finally and back on a track with some ongoing P&M progress!
As I said before, I'm doing some paint job for my friend, Storag, and here how things are turning out:
I've fixed the Grot's eye a bit, to make the painting easier for myself - there going to be a good ol' Lens effect
And... The Browncoats! His old dusty duster. Looks a bit dirty, but I think it's alright for the grottish coat. Any thoughts?
nice mini mate...this is storag´s, eh? and he let you change that eye? well i think he will be in for a treat... that brown coat already screams dodge city to me... the western scheme is a very fitting one for that mini in my view...
hopefully we will see some more of these lil fellas done by you soon! i really like storags grots... very unique and powerful work of him!
and yep...whoever thought that fate lies in our hands? we get only the cards dealt and have to play for the big stakes and we will loose ultimatly...but thats ok...as terry pratchet once wrote in a bokk of his...: a million dead people can´t be wrong...^^
Vik, I'm pretty satisfied so far But if you just knew the battles we had about that lens and colour scheme... I even had to threaten to stab him unconcious and send to China in a crate so he'll be painting Happy Hippos for the rest of his life! That worked miraculously and I'm going to include this method to my list of "how to motivate those you can't reason with"
storag wrote:Vik, I'm pretty satisfied so far But if you just knew the battles we had about that lens and colour scheme... I even had to threaten to stab him unconcious and send to China in a crate so he'll be painting Happy Hippos for the rest of his life! That worked miraculously and I'm going to include this method to my list of "how to motivate those you can't reason with"
that should be made as a priceless demotivating poster...the very idea... paining happy hippos... that made me lol so hard^^
@El Vic:
Well, I'm aiming for a Teenage-Cowboy-Sci-Fi-Grot... Very eclectic, I know I just realised, that painting miniature, which is not mine, is much harder for me for some reason...
Indeed, Terry Pratchett wrote just a lot of things worth quoting.
@Tortured-Robot:
Thank you! I'm just a stubborn person sometimes, when it really does not necessary
@Storag:
In fact, it's not the best way to motivate a person, who got your miniature as a hostage
It's been a hard day's night, and I've been working like a dog...
The headless grot is almost finished. Some polishing and I can start torturing his head.
Currently we are arguing with Storag about his way too rusty base, so your opinion on that matter can be very helpfull, as any C&C, of course.
îs there a possibility of having too much rustyness? i think not...the warmth this weathering radiates looks very good to me...
one minor thought here tho...:
the grimy coat suggest that this mini would be not the kind to fuss around to keep the crisp look of his cons...so i guess a bit of ruination on his shoes would be the right thing to do... also i would like to see a loose bootlace on one shoe...would add even more depth to the teenage dirtbag feel of the mini...
much more i am not able to come up with as the head is missing^^...hope the torture starts soon then...
vik...or as he is more commonly now known as...el vic...^^
@El Vic:
Personally I like the rust effect... It is... As you said it - it is warm Indeed. Well, the soles are already very dirty, but I decided to leave the toecap fairly white to make the overall appearance more contrast. Anyway, the last word is after the "client" The loose bootlace idea sounds perfect - I should try it!
@Capitansolstice:
Of course!
The easiest way to get such a heavy rust effect I came up with:
For complex surfaces - Tin Bitz as a basecoat, intense drybrush with Calthan Brown (I guess any not-very-dark brown will do), Badab Black wash for deep dark areas, Devlan Mud for darkening the brown itself and finally - carefull highlight/drybrush over the edges with somewhere about 50/50 mix of Brown and Blazing Orange (to get a bit reddish and more rustish colour).
For flat surfaces - Calthan Brown, Devlan Mud for darkening and highlight/drybrush over the edges with mix of Brown and Blazing Orange.
As for the head missing... Here it comes:
Hopefully the overall paint job will be approved soon, so the miniature will be assembled, properly photographed and posted for your judgement
Great stuff OP, the ammo belt looks just like the HB one.
Plasma gunner is my favourite though, it's a great conversion. Really demonstrates the conversion potential of finecast models when they don't come out crap.
You could break some of the rust up with some silver here or there as the metal is chipped? Perhaps where the gears mesh? Or where the box has been scratched revealing fresher un-rusted metal underneath?
Tortured-Robot wrote:You could break some of the rust up with some silver here or there as the metal is chipped? Perhaps where the gears mesh? Or where the box has been scratched revealing fresher un-rusted metal underneath?
@Almarine: Thanks and welcome! To be honest, this Finecasts are just awful... The details are nice and sharp indeed, but the poses of miniatures are somehow ridiculous and almost impossible to change. Not speaking of quality... I've bought them at the very beginning of my hobby, blinded by the euphoria... I guess some of you might know this feeling... and for a few month they had been gathering dust on the shelf, before I had a fresh look at them. Now the converting is the only option for me and I have to say it's damn fun
@El Vic: Done and done Also I like your idea about oily surfaces, but the Grot is already covered with varnish, so I'll keep this in mind for some future works. Sounds challenging...
@Tortured-Robot: Thank you for the suggestion. That's what I've done. The heavy rust is no more
@MrMerlin: Thank you!
@Norn King: Cheers! Though the credits for conversion goes to Storag
Anyway, good news everyone! My paint job was approved by the "client" (though he doesn't pay me at all) so the Grot was assembled and got a solid coat of matt varnish! The pics will be as soon as I'll make myself a propper lightbox at last. And to not to leave this post without an update, here's a pic of little progress I did on Plasma gunner:
After some thinking, I've decided to change his left hand aswell, to get a more realistic pose and some room for the Blood Raven icon. Also I've added some small details to his goggles and knee-pads. Since the position of the gun was changed, I had to reshape the old wires, but the process went bad (hard-bending guitar strings be damned!), thus I have to redo it anew... Beeing lazypoke, I just ordered some Flexible Resin Power Cables from Zinge. Guitar strings are almost impossible to prime and paint anyway... So the nearly finished conversion is not that finished now
the plasma man looks very good... and yep... now that zinge has all that cool belts and cables... who needs guitar strings anymore^^ also i saw this...:
@Illumini:
Thank you!
I've used the Large Ammo Belt, marked LA1 at Zinge's store.
@El Vic:
Cheers!
And thanks A LOT for the link! The sculptor in my local hobby store told me about this tool, but unfortunatly I forgot the site name... I definitely should get one - having an easy oportunity to do something by yourself is always better, than rely on orders.
i think with that tool you are set for eternity...also...given the simplicity of the item...one could make his own...it is doable...you just had to be good at straight cutting...hmmm... now i have to think that for myself...^^
That's an option aswell, if I wasn't so unsure about my "straight cutting" skills... Though, won't try - won't know! Also it's possible to find something similar in the tools shops, I guess. Our hobby is all about searching after all
yeah.... i think you are up to something good...toolshops might actually have something to work around that... and a bit of time then would save you the better part of 20€s... nothing to be sneezed at^^
At last, I've made some kind of a crappy Lightbox and took some decent shots of the Grot. You can read the full story about this wonderful conversion in the owner's thread.
@Tortured-Robot:
Actually, I wish I could do better.
Anyway, those little plastic fellas on my shelf started to miss me so after a pretty long time away from my workbench (All those awesome computer games be damned!) I'm back on a track. And I got some pics!
Another long-running project of mine which I polish and upgrade again and again seems to be close to release at last. I've made some changes and also replaced old guitar strings and metal wires with Zinge's Power Cables, as is is much more convenient in terms of bending, assembling and paiting.
The guy got himself a nice and simple base with a common for all my characters nameplate:
And pre-assembled shot:
A few more fixes and he will be ready for priming!
@El Vic:
Thanks!
It's good to be back... Though I never was away from Dakka, but kept silently lurking around, reading the stuff and dreaming... Anyway, the main reason for my absence were awesome computer games - Skyrim, Batman: Arkham City, Assassin’s Creed 2, Witcher 2 and, of course, Star Wars: The Old Republic. Still, I haven't manage to complete any of those due to a pretty limited amount of time, yet the gaming process has consumed my spare time rather effectively, if not to say - wholly. There are so much interesting stuff around...
LOl at your post where you said : Good news Everyone! It imediatly reminded me of professor Farnsworth from Futurama. The marine looks amazing so far too!
@IPS: Cheers! Indeed, this goggles were highly inspired by the Riddick's aswell.
@El Vic: Well, gaming is also a hobby, though not as productive... And yes, the repenting via painting and glueing is in progress! Ah, well, and via posting pics, of course! So, more is coming! Slowly...
@Norn King: Thanks! I'm a big fan of Futurama series and this particular phrase.
@Vent: Thank you! GS is a very uncomfortable material to work with and takes some practice to get used to it. One nice fella and a great sculptor from my local hobby store adviced me to try out the Magic Sculpt thingie, wich is much more easier and less frustrative to work with, as he told, and I think this guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyway, the repent via pics: The base seems to be finished as the Red part of armour. I was thinking about trying out some weathering, yet the most part of armour is hidden behind the huge gun so I will practice this technic some other time.
after seeing his name tag... i got this idea... make a pair of SM... one you already named "stain" and no make another and you could name him "laurel"... (ok...cheap pun...but with my pronunciation...it works^^)
i have to admit, the base looks already good and finished...the cape alone gives me still a wanting for improvement...but i see again you have gone to the zenithal methode? looks very good on the armored red...
I like this idea about the names. Kinda funny.
Yes, zenithal. A good and fairly easy way to make a boring flat surface much more interesting.
I also decided to learn this NMM thingie and painted the skull, the rim of the Veteran Crux and the goggles strap using this technik. I think I should paint the inner ribs of the Crux with gold aswell... And add more depth to the gold.
ishkatar wrote:I like this idea about the names. Kinda funny.
Yes, zenithal. A good and fairly easy way to make a boring flat surface much more interesting.
I also decided to learn this NMM thingie and painted the skull, the rim of the Veteran Crux and the goggles strap using this technik. I think I should paint the inner ribs of the Crux with gold aswell... And add more depth to the gold.
Anyway, the body is almost finished:
Looking great! Your NMM is coming along quite nicely and your marines have so much character! Do you have a list you're working towards, or are you just building what is fun?
I wouldn't paint the ribs gold, I like the contrast as is...
Well, I have a virtual "to do" list, something like a great plan, but mostly I'm just building what's fun, depending on ideas, available materials and mood.
In a far future it's suppose to be an army of following composition: a mix of Command and Tactical squad (I want to save myself time making boring Tacticals and just throw in some regular SM to bulk up the common Command squad), Storm squad, some tank hunter infantry, like Devastator squad, Dedicated transport (I want to try and screth build something different from basic Rhinos. I even have an idea for this transport), two converted Dreadnoughts (well, at least one), a small scout squad on Hoverbikes and probably a Terminator squad. Of course I will write a Codex for this bunch with some fluff and special rules.
@El Vic: Cheers! I've repainted this NMM anyway to get more convincing effect... Not sure if it worked out, but I like the new version much more. Well, I want to see it bymyself, I mean, not only in my head... The overall idea is pretty awesome, but we can dream whatever we want - it's nothing but imagination until the real work is done, wich won't happen soon, I suppose. But a man can dream... A man can dream...
@Norn King: Thank you, mate!
Anyway, good news, everyone! The plasma guy is fully painted and varnished! And... No pics yet. Sorry. Of course, I will share it as soon as I'll make some propper photoes. For now I can say that things turned out much better then I've expected and this one seems to be my best paint job so far. A pretty lame teaser, I know
done...you know the drill...pics or it didn´t happen^^...
your skills could make some rather tasty vehicles i have no doubt... and if you are at it... do a truescale vehicle...worth every extra mm you use ...trust me^^
@El Vic:
Oh, what a cruel world! But yeah, fair enough I hope so and yes, Truescale is something that worth a shot, yet, I dream to do "not Rhino at all". The time will show...
very good looking mate... the NMM on the backpack looks very good to me...
the subtle ligts/shine on the cloak is simply ace!
and you just simply gotta love that gem on the pad...!!!
but i wonder...when will you start with something like OSL? it is way out of my modus operandi for at least the next ten years...or maybe even never^^ but i think someone with your latent should give it a try...just saying... would mentioned to a lesser painter...
@El Vic:
Cheers!
Not that I was trying to make the backpack NMM, but well...
I mostly proud of the face with the wrinkles painted on the flat forehead and two small buttons (green and red) on the backpack with lens effec on them (I should make a close-up shot on those).
On the OSL... I'm not sure. It sounds fun, but I'm really not a big fan of this effect for some reason - sounds way too dioramish for me, if you know, what I mean... I should try it anyway one day.
i think i know what you mean by dioramish... why i am nagging about that issue is: whenver i see a plasma weapon...then i imidiatly think of OSL... but then on other weapons mstly i am not instantly reminded of that effect...
now that you mentioned his frown i too see it and i have before overlooked that... wow... good work... it is a feat to create a 3D detail effect on a flat surface!
Today is a notable day of my modelling "career"... At long last, Inspired by many great sculptors from this awesome forum, I found some balls to start on my very own sculpt!.. I suppose it will be a long and hard journey, but I did the main step already - the first one... Anyway, enough with my mumbling, let's get to the point!
The overall style behind the figure is highly inspired by SW:tOR, mixed with some WH40k stuff and what else will come to my head. Here's some pictures for you to get the idea:
And that's what I've done so far:
I've cheated a bit and used worthless for me DE torso to get the initial shape and save some GS:
Awesome! I am really diggin how the leg armor is coming out! Is the ball for you to hold on to? Or to just give you something t o look at? I say keep it!
The wires and tubes between the armor look good too! I am impressed!
RSJake wrote:Awesome! I am really diggin how the leg armor is coming out! Is the ball for you to hold on to? Or to just give you something t o look at? I say keep it!
The wires and tubes between the armor look good too! I am impressed!
This.
looking forward to following this project as well!
@RSJ:
Cheers! Your example have motivated me to start this affair I used the ball to make the sculpting of the collar easier, but it appeared that a cheerful face made the overall process muc more fun, so the guy got a personality and a temporary name - Ballhead!
@MrMerlin:
Cheers!
By the way, looking at my forum status I've realised that Ballhead can be some kind of an elite Mechanicus Commando. I like how that sounds... So be it! I officially call this project "The Implacable Skitarii"!
wow...how long has this idea been brewing in your ballhead?^^ nice concept so far, have you more than pics to tell us what and who this will be? some fluffy details maybe?
the proportions look very good already...even at this early stage you have put a big amount of detail to this cool model...if this pace continiues i have no doubt this will be over and done way quicker than we and you would like it to be^^...i sense a very big wave of creativity these days here in these parts... i think we do all a great job to inspire other modelers for new projects!
and i really like that cheery lil ballhead pic... if your timnon avatar pic wasn´t so cool already i would ask you to use the ballhead instead... but i asure you i like timon even more...^^it suits you so well^^
@El Vic:
Well, for a very... very-very-very long time. And it's still brewing Basicly, I stick to my virtual Army List I posted somewhere above, but I just can't stand making an SM army... Probably I got tired of those... So I want to dedicate my sculpting to Explorators of Adeptus Mechanicus, as it's closely related with Archeology and Explorations, with adventures somwhere on the borders of the Galaxy, with the scavenging on the ruins of older civilizations, with discovering new worlds and so on, and so on... I think you got the idea.
A Mechanicus style with Post-Apocalyptic feel (WH40k is very Post-Apocalyptic for me - you know, all this pre-Heresy and 10k years long decadance...), a drip of Space Western and an aroma of Cyberpunk - that's what I'm aiming for.
And as this one is my first ever attempt on sculpting the human figure, the proportions bothers me more, then anything else. I want this guy to be slightly more realistic, yet with a grotesque and cartoonish feel of WH40k.
Indeed, this board gives a lot of food for imagination along with great discussions and other stuff.
Haha yeah, I was thinking to set this smiley ballface as my avatar, but for a second thought Timon is just more awesome, though he is way too crazy even for my taste
@Capitansolstice:
Aye, I keep the Halo style in mind. I'm not going to make such a helmet for this guy, but I want to use similar appearance for another project.
Not much been done for the past few days, because I've been sucked into the MLP madness (it appeared to be an incredibly good show!), but I have some pics to share anyway:
The sword seems to be rather bulky for the figure, but I will make his ankles much bigger and with all other details I'm going to add (the coat and backpack), the weapon will become more in scale, I guess.
And some more pics to show the source of my inspiration:
...if i say no...will you write more about this? i am hooked already and would like to know more about that storyline in that big round head of yours^^
and i like that stance of your model... very dynamic but at the same time not overdoing it... like a true warrior, he prepares for combat, but he doesn´t waste energy for grandstanding!!!
one thought of mine tho...get rid of that sword...by all means... it will only hinder you substantial... i think you are capable to do your own version... and i think this model would look better if it has a coherent through and through vision...your vision that is... and for this i think you need to do these things on your own...more work tho but you already feel it in you that this would be the real path!
oh and another thought... you went for a more anged look on the legs... somehow this is not often to be seen... i think the look should be thus used too on the upper body too... like the now more rounded shoulderpads plates and the breastarmor... i think this would make it a bit more straight looking... if that is indeed still possible...
@El Vic:
Ah, well... The storyline in my big round head is very rough yet - so many different ideas without an order, but the concept is dancing around the company of adventurers and explorers, decently geared and armed with a lot of high-tech stuff... An obvious way to write such a company in 40k universe is to make them somehow related to Adeptus Mechanicus, or Explorators, to be exact. And that's what I think: do I ever need to link my sculpts with 40k Universe anyway?.. Quite a dilemma it is!
The position of legs and body was inspired by the stance of Sith Warrior from SWtOR. I posted a picture above. I'm still toying with the left hand... But seems like I've got a nice idea - to make the left hand so, as he is trying to choke/push someone in front. And yes, you're totally right - I will make a special weapon for this guy. Probably it will be some kind of a power sword.
As for the angular shape of his armour... I'm still thinking about the shoulders: do I want to add this part at all? I know, shoulders makes everything looks cooler, but... May be only one shoulderpad on the right hand? A matter of discussion.
Anyway, I'm slowly walking my path:
This DE head is only for the scale.
I'm not completely sure about the base... Also I've started making upper part of the coat... Probably I should lower the folds on the right part of the torso to get more dynamic look.
as for your recent updates... very good looking... i congratulate you for going the way of making your own weapon! thats a good decision! also i like how the coat is developing... a lower part will follow? the coat will also solve the shoulderpad issue as with the coat i think the shouldpad is obsolete...
as for the base... i think there are two things to consider for now... one...the spring thingy you have in the middle? is it truly needed? what will it look like painted and what is it aynway...any function you have in mind for that? or is it just there for general cluttyness?
also second:
you might face uncertainty for the base because of the color... for now the rather light color of sand and cork detracts a lot of attention from the mostly green blob of the mini... don´t get me wrong...the model looks stunning...but since you work with the model for quite some time already i think it might be a case of colorunbalance now... so here is my tip: if you are satisfied with the base as a concept, then get it primed there... one base color and this might help you again to conecentrate on the mini and don´t get disatratcted by the base...
if that is not the case...forgett my musings...
did i say great mini?...well it is^^ and the head looks quite fitting by the way^^
@El Vic:
Aye, I'll start doing the lower part of the coat as soon as I'll finish the legs and toes, for wich I need to finish the base first... Aghr!..
As for the wire in the middle of the base, it's really have no purpose, but to be there for the volume. I don't like pointless objects much, but there should be something, otherwise base will look way too plain. Anyway, I think I will redo the whole base anew.
The base is heavily dependant on the pose of the miniature, but in this case the posture is rather simple, so the guy can stand on any flat surface. And that's where I stuck... You know, the base can be (and should be) simple, but simple things are always the hardest to make... Ain't our hobby is all about making ourselves such a small problems out of nowhere?
Ain't our hobby is all about making ourselves such a small problems out of nowhere?
exactly my point... well we could all just watch telly 24/7 and be done^^ but no...we have to keep bugging ourselves with these problems... we really have some wierd issues going on^^
well... if you want simple yet effective base ideas... have you recently looked into dsteingass thread? he did some nice and simple yet effective flat bases for his `munda gangs...ebossed plsticcard and granny grating is the major ingredients there...
I think I'll add few more wires on the base to make this cable in the middle feel not so lonely, and here we go!
I also will bulk up those shoes even more!
they are truly something new...definatly interesting... tho i have to say they verge a bit on the odd... a bit of a stain from papa nurgle it looks to me... if a bit bigger maybe they could go as some sort of jetpack engines...maybe even something boba fet would have used...
Automatically Appended Next Post: oh and just realized the updated work on the coat... looks very good...
@El Vic:
On a second thought, I decided to remove those vents and redo the shins anew. Though I like the idea, in this case such things looks wierd and way too bulky - I have to put more efford in the concept...
Yeah, thanks!
Personally I think, that the cape thingie fits the model better, then shoulderpads, than again, shoulderpads are always cool... Sigh...
@RW:
Thank you, sir!
His current shoes are just a basis for future details, so they will be a bit longer.
i think you made the right decision... fluffwise i the jetknees^^ would have been a bit too much i think... also everybody knows that jetpacks and capes don´t go together that well^^
@El Vic: Aye, no one wants to get a burning cape on their back Anyway, I've revamped the shins and I like the new version much more.
@Mwnciboo: Quite an interesting mention... Actually I'm thinking about making a plain armored model (something like a dummy) after finishing this one and try to cast it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sooo...
I've came up with a new concept of the base, remade shins and finished his kickers... Pose-wise the new plinth fits much better, also it's rather simple and industrial. Now I just need to add some details... I'm thinking about that crack in the center - what should I place in there? A sceleton of poor fella, who tried to crawl out from the ancient trap? A build-in LED? Hmmm... A tentacles!?
legs are looking better´n´better every time you update!!! the new base have lots of more scenic potential than the former... i think i like the LED idea but i am at a loss s to how to do it properly... also i have thought after seeing your new base... maybe you could have done a cracked pavement base... like when the hulk lands...around his feet you have the cracked pavement...
ishkatar wrote:@El Vic:
Aye, no one wants to get a burning cape on their back Anyway, I've revamped the shins and I like the new version much more.
@Mwnciboo:
Quite an interesting mention... Actually I'm thinking about making a plain armored model (something like a dummy) after finishing this one and try to cast it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sooo...
I've came up with a new concept of the base, remade shins and finished his kickers...
Pose-wise the new plinth fits much better, also it's rather simple and industrial. Now I just need to add some details... I'm thinking about that crack in the center - what should I place in there? A sceleton of poor fella, who tried to crawl out from the ancient trap? A build-in LED? Hmmm... A tentacles!?
Do not paint this. Get a production line going to make copies of him, they will sell.
You want the extra groin protection! Even if you don't need it, just knowing it can take a missile and you won't feel it will give you peace of mind in combat! If you don't have it, every time a small bullet comes close to your groin, you are going to wince in anticipated pain, and that could be disasterous!
@El Vic:
Aye, it's quite a nice idea, though not for this particular miniature, since the character suppose to be standing still and focusing his powers on someone afar. I'm thinking more and more about placing there a sceleton of a guy, who tried to crawl out from the deadly trap of closing leafs in the floor, and, well, been crushed - something is needed to fill this empty area in front of the figure!
I'll keep the idea in mind anyway, if not for this guy, but may be for some other project in future.
@RW:
Thanks!
@gendoikari87:
Well, it depends on the final result... Casting my own miniatures is something beyond my dreams! But I had a nice chat with good fallas from my local hobby store on that matter today, so it's highly possible.
@Chemical Cutthroat:
Cheers!
You know, an extra groin protection is never too much with those pesky Smugglers around! Jokes aside, there will be much more details, fixes and changes, I guess... The sculpture is in pretty basic shape yet.
@Legion of Damnation:
Thank you!
There's a lot work to be done... And a lot of Skyrim lands to discover, quests to complete and dragons to kill! Currently I have a little break from the game, but maaaan, it was hard to lift my ass from the couche and put the X-box controller aside...
@RSJ:
You tell 'em, bro!
Alright, sorry, no pics today. I've finished the coat, but some polishing and fixes had to be done...
Stay tuned, my fellow Dakkanauts! More stuff coming soon!
PS:
A little clarification on the comment of Chemical Cutthroat and for those, who might wonder about what smugglers had to do with groins:
I've finished the coat, remade the toes and codpiece. The codpiece requires some additional detalization, also I've missed one little detail on the feets, but other than that I consider the torso to be almost complete and I'm very proud with the results. So, now to the hardest part: head and hands! I've already started to work with the head, but I struggle with the weapon concept for his left hand yet... What should it be? A sword of some kind? A pikestaff? A power maul? Questions, questions...
Also I've started a little side project, slightly unusual and even offtopic for this board:
This great miniature by Tale of War will be a present for my friend's wife for her birthday. I've added a belt on the hat for more classic witchy look and trying to sculpt a cat as another classic element. Along with painting I have to make some kind of a proper plinth to get more dioramish appearance of the model. The cat already do well as a part of base decoration, but I have to add something else... Cobblestones and street light, probabbly. By the way, I think this model can be wonderful basis for a female Inquisitor conversion!
the coat is looking so fine! very well done my friend! with that collar he even gets a slight medival air to him...
he is looking totaly menacing...a powerhouse...
the weapon issue...now that is a true toughy...everything you mentioned is very good... for some reason i get a certain darth maul vibe... so if i am asked for my weapon of choice i say either two lightsabers...or one doublebladed lightstaff thingy... or for that matter something like that only done as a powerweapon:
lighteffect would be then in a slight purple to pink i think...
as for that witch...i can´t see how this could be off topic... in no way... looking delicious already! the cat will be a nice addition! and well...i like tales of war stuff... if i am not mistaken they had an alice of resident evil earlier in their range... which is in my collection...very fragil stuff if i remeber correctly... and i think with the right plinth it will be a gem! i would reconsider the cobblestone tho...how about you sculpt some wooden florboards? or maybe some other cottage related floor?
by the way... i think now too...that you should find someone to cast this model of yours... i could see multiple versions for this one... liek a wolverine version...with two poerclaws and so on... the pose is simply too great to have just one time^^
I dunno, I'm getting a sort of bushido feel to the weapon positioning. Like the sword in the right arm, pointing across the body running parallel towards the outstretched left hand. A duelist sort of feel to the stance. I have a preference for swords... and this would be a great excuse to model a really awesome Sith Alchemical Sword.
Unless that's not Sith enough, then go with some wicked looking energy maul of some kind and him making a crushing gesture with his other hand.
Since the concept was based on the Sith Warrior stance, a sword should suit well. And a sword I wanted to make - some sort of a plasma cutter, fueled through the cable, going from the gas cylinder on his waist. Very much like protosaber:
But I'm thinking about some other options, like a glaive.
Okay, I'll sculpt the hand holding a long rod and then will see...
@El Vic:
The guys in the Hobby store told me it's nearly impossible to get a quality cast from a GS master-model, so I will have to make a first molding only for polishing in order to get a proper dummy for further production... Though I should dig more on that matter. Casting sounds like a fun... And a lot of a problems I also like the idea of different weapon options! I should do that, if I will be able to cast the miniature.
Indeed, the Tale of War miniatures are great! Though I totally hate to work with metallic stuff and those babies are damn costy in my local store...
I'm not sure about the wooden floor for the Witch, but I like the cobblestone paving, like she just have landed on the alley of some small town to show their new hunting ground to her skull-friend Hmm, maybe it can be a tiled roof.
I found those fotos through the Google, using the "protosaber" tag. Here's another, a rather funny one:
Speaking of the posing... Aye, that's what I'm basicly aiming for, as I stated before, though the left hand supposed to be in other position... But with different weapon choices I can make a couple of variations of the pose. Here I made an example to get a right feel of hands and head scale for further sculpting:
The left knife on this photo should be rotated a bit to be more parallel with the earth, like he's preparing to parry an incoming attack, yet, it's not a big deal, since it's not a purpose of this picture anyway.
Also, here's the head on stick:
It's a basic shape with some details thrown in, but more things should be done. The sculpt is very close to the DE's heads size.
PS: By the way, I just realized, that March is some kind of an aniversary of my hobby "carier" So, yes, it's a whole one year as I got sucked deep into it. And even though I still don't have an army, I consider the year was quite productive.
i probably had an army by now since i started...if i could see through batchpainting...which in fact i can´t^^ maybe even more than just one^^
the head onastick...will it get hair or will you leave it bald? mask looks quite convincing already...you really have the hands and eyes for making these geometrical forms work!
the mockups look very good... specially like the small energy canister you have with that hose/cable...i seem to recognize the bit you used...but for now i am not able to say where....? might need to copy that idea on future projects^^
ups...i think i totally went into that google trap by myself... hehe^^
and well...happy aniversary i say...even if it only means that you have a date to refer to when total madness started... following generations may celebrate it...^^
The head will be hooded. I will add just a few more details on the mask and consider it done. Maybe I should make a few variations...
By the way, the mask is based on the super-cool Ranger Armor from FO: New Vegas (in fact, this design had a strong impact on my sculping along with SW:tOR and some other stuff):
In case with GS, I have to say that geometrical forms are much easier to work with.
The energy canister was sawed off the standard Meltagun. Copy at will!
Aye, cheers! In fact this date means almost nothing, but just a funny note to self.
ah i see...and a good inspiration at that! ...for the melta bit...i think that screems for a pressmould deed for the first time^^
and yep...one has to master geometrical shapes always first... tho i couldn´t picture myself ever doing some organic looking shapes above fur and hair tho^^
You can't wear that armor without feeling like a complete badass. The only way it would be better is if it had a floppy sort of Clint Eastwood style cowboy hat.
Besides that, I imagine he'd be bald... since I have a helluva time imagining any Sith chap with hair. I think baldness is a side effect of all the Lightning.
Except for Count Dooku... because he has to look pimp and in charge at all time... and you can't do that without a perfect beard.
@El Vic:
I think, that I will make my own power generator for the blade.
Me too never liked the organic-styled stuff that much ever... Except for a human body, of course. I guess I should try to sculpt a female figure in some future - she will be my Galatea
@Chemical Cutthroat:
Baldness is always badass, indeed, yet the hood is even better! It's almost as cool as a cowboy hat:
I dunno, in all of those videos (I have them saved in HD on my phone so I can ambush people with them), everybody is awesome. Period. I think they did a good job portraying that.
What I really wanted was a Bounty Hunter... maybe one day.
((I'd apologize for being off topic, but I'm committed to it now.))
Yeah, that CGI company is absolutely amazing. If they hired them to start doing CGI Star Wars movies I would pay them all of my dollars forever.
They did the opening credits for 'The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo', the stateside version. And that was a total mind**** as well... those guys are amazing.
They successfully rekindled my love and passion for Star Wars after George Lucas tried to crush it from me. That's saying something.
Indeed, those guys knows, how to cause da nerdgasm!
Though, I wish SW:ToR was at least half as good as those trailer... Don't get me wrong - the game is fairly good and fun to play, but after those aswesome animations I've been expecting something more.
I think the best thing I could do for myself is sectioning off the Trailers from the Game. The trailers are awesome, but they are their own thing... I've seen way too many awesome trailers for video games to get the two confused anymore. Still, I have to agree.
That's quite a wise move, I'd say... After all It's not something unusual this days, when an awesome trailer appears to have nothing to do with a lame final product.
Anyway, back on a track, shall we?
I'm not entirely happy with the proportion of the outcoming head, so...
Dispite the Pithecanthropus forehead, what do you guys think?
first...: the vid... man ishkatar...was that needed to do? man now you got me started on yet another game...darn... i need to be focused^^
as for the head... i think your concept would be more to the point...seeing that the body you aimed for the GW heroic scale... so should be the head... so...back to the drawing board?...well you asked for it...and also see it as a mild form of retaliation for that way too awsome and mouthwatering vid you just carelessly shoved in my face
Well, it was inevitable, El Vic SWtOR isn't that great as it could have been and not even close to that awesomeness you've seen in those trailers, but it's a fairly decent game to give it a shot. Yet, as soon as I've completed the Sith Warrior's main storyline, I've canceled my subscription...
I've spent the whole night playing the Red Faction: Armageddon (oh, It's good to be on vacations), but I've managed to make some sculpting anyway, and here's what I've done:
Some work to be done anyway, but I'm pretty close to the finish.
Got any thoughts?
Speak at will!
I love seeing your progress Ish! the helmet/gasmask is awesome! Very FallOut-esque! Do you plan to make casts of the head? You should. And the rest of the model too of course, it is inspiring! I can see a traitor guard force wearing those helmets!
Cheers, pal!
The design of the mask is very common and I saw a lot of such heads all over the internet, though I should try to cast it anyway. You can never have too much post-apocalyptic heads around The main reason is, I want my miniature to be hooded, but this head appears to be fairly self-sufficient, so casting and using it as a conversional part for my current work, while keeping the master-model for some future projects, sounds like a wise idea.
Oh, that's actually a wonderful idea! How could I forget about those awesome Skyrim lich masks! Thanks a lot, Shasolenzabi. I think I will try to make something similar with bionic eyes and cables, of course - seems to be more fitting to my guy.
ishkatar wrote:Oh, that's actually a wonderful idea! How could I forget about those awesome Skyrim lich masks! Thanks a lot, Shasolenzabi. I think I will try to make something similar with bionic eyes and cables, of course.
Anytime! Once I get done with the whole move thing,,,I still have a T-64"Bulat" to finish as well amongst my many differing projects as well. odd model, came with copper etched parts, resin parts as well as the plastics and rubbery tracks.
Now if I had developed my own sculpting more, I had some ideas as well to make solid form, oh well.
Man, I know that feeling!
When unexpectedly I've got Krosis, I've almost pooped myself, seeing the overwhelming awesomness of my character in this mask... So all other headgear just disappeared for me! That's why I've installed The Helmless Warrior plugin and became a happy panda
so....speak at will he said...well i am willing...
to be hoenst... a very good looking headscultp... very fine detail and all... for a gueardsman this would be quite the treat! but i fear for your very awsome model...it is just not cutting the mustard enough!
i think if i came up witha suitable face/mask/head now it would be too late... phasespace has moved on so much as is... but you need for that body a whole lot more awsomeness...sorry mate...
as for Krosis...anyone sees a striking resemblence of the first who wore this kind of mask...*coughviktorvondoomcough*
@Shasolenzabi:
That's odd indeed. I suppose it will be tricky to assemble it. By the way, I never laid my hands on any vehicle models yet.
As for sculpting... You definitely should! Sculpting is really fun though demands some stubborness
@Chemical Cutthroat:
It depends on my laziness But I will be away from my workbench for the friday, so it will take a couple more days
@El Vic:
You've got the point! That was bothering me too... I guess, I will make few more different heads to have a variety of choice.
I'd say in common it's a very Sith-esque looking mask. Reminds me off this:
@Shasolenzabi:
That's odd indeed. I suppose it will be tricky to assemble it. By the way, I never laid my hands on any vehicle models yet.
As for sculpting... You definitely should! Sculpting is really fun though demands some stubborness 3321.
The other thing is it was made over there, a SKIF model. I have slowly worked on mods to models, but sculpting a full figure that is in my head as an idea has not happened since I was a kid making clay shark men.
Yes, the Sith have a long and colorful history when it comes to masks. Revan's of course, is the most famous. And awesome. Way cooler than Darth... err... forgettable. Nihlus?
I always think an uncaring and emotionless visage for a bad guy is the best. At least on the ones that work through intimidation and whatnot. Count Dooku should never cover his handsome visage! How else would he get his charisma bonus?
oh hadn´t realised them rivets in the previous pic^^
