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Post by: Sir Harry Flashman, VC
Hi,
Sorry to start another Cron thread, but they are all locked and I felt this might give a bit of a morale boost to Cron Fans. I can't vouch for the source but it all seems plausible to me:
http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86992&page=60
Okay, so I sent an email to the What's New Today staff regarding getting some information on the Necron release. Here's what I got back - nothing spectacular, but it does sound like the release isn't extremely far off.
Quote:
Originally Posted by What's New Today
Hey Daniel,
First off, thanks for the email, it’s great to hear from you.
As you’ve probably guessed by now, I can’t really tell you a huge amount about Necrons because there isn’t a huge amount to say. When an army hasn’t been updated for a while, rumours will often start to circulate that the army is being remade. Sometimes this is correct, sometimes it isn’t. What I will say is that Codex Necrons has been removed from the website for some time now, which is a good indicator that something is being done with them.
My advice: If you buy any of the Necron plastic kits you’ll be fine – they will not be changing. Hopefully that will be enough to put your mind at rest for now. Otherwise, I’m afraid you’ll have to wait just a little bit longer. But, as the saying goes, good things come to those who wait. 
Dan
I hope "just a little bit longer" is at least before the end of the year!
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Post by: Flashman
Has to November...
Although it might be nice to be completely blind sided by GW for a change just to see what the feeling is like.
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Post by: Sir Harry Flashman, VC
I'd prefer a nice predictable last Saturday Oct reveal and first Saturday Nov release. Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you must...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
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Post by: Necros
Yes it would be in GW's best interest to just delay everything until their legal dept can be sure that they can actually copyright robots. I think they'll be OK as long as they don't start calling them droids.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
I almost started a Necron thread yesterday myself, though without any details other than a release month I decided against it. November is looking pretty good at this point if you like killer robots.
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Post by: Red Comet
That's definitely some good news for Necron players. I just hope the release schedule gets back on track quickly.
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Post by: BrassScorpion
Red Comet wrote:That's definitely some good news for Necron players. I just hope the release schedule gets back on track quickly.
Dreadfleet is cool if a bit overpriced and I see a lot of copies sold in my area, but as expected the stores didn't sell out even with a much lower stock than Space Hulk and the game is still available on the GW website simultaneously as well. I wonder if GW would have made more money this month with a "normal" Warhammer games release.
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Post by: MajorTom11
That poor 'Dan' guy is probably going to get canned for admitting he even knows what a Necron is lol...
I'm not even sure I am joking or not is the worst part!
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Post by: warpgrenade
Necros wrote:Yes it would be in GW's best interest to just delay everything until their legal dept can be sure that they can actually copyright robots. I think they'll be OK as long as they don't start calling them droids.
It would be ironic if Necrons had legal issues given that they are almost direct copies of the T800 from terminator, in appearance if nothing else.
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Post by: olympia
This email replies are strange. Aren't they all fabrications? We know necrons are next so whatever.
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Post by: Red Corsair
Ha ha, I remember in 2004 when the DE were just a little longer... I truly hope Crons and then Tau get updates before other armies (and I am a CSM player!) as they really do need the update...
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Post by: Defeatmyarmy
IN BEFORE ;LOCK 
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Post by: Breotan
Red Comet wrote:That's definitely some good news for Necron players. I just hope the release schedule gets back on track quickly.
I still don't put any stock in the idea that the release schedule has been taken off track.
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Post by: LavuranGuard
I'm early awaiting 'cons. Just bought the Apoc Necron Phalanx boxed set new for less than a Storm Raven, but I have a lot of metals - hope they don't get changed too much (have lots of Wraiths, Immortals and Flayed Ones).
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Post by: Ascalam
If they change in ways i don't like i might give your metals a home, assuming that you like the new ones 
unless the new immortals wow me (and rumors say thay are getting bling and rims, rather than the simple , clean look they have now) i'll be buying up oldschool ones to finish out my list
Assuming that the codes isn't a total lemon (and it may well be), forcing me to sell my army instead
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Post by: Manchu
Nice of him to say as much about the plastics.
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Post by: Small, Far Away
Clever, GW, very clever. A just a bit shrewd.
I think these guys know more about the web community that we give them credit for.
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Post by: whigwam
I assumed they wouldn't be changing the plastics. Glad to have that somewhat-confirmed...I don't want any temptation to replace my 15 Destroyers.
Now here's hoping Destroyers will still be worth having.
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Post by: Absolutionis
Wasn't there a rumor that Necrons were getting delayed because Dark Eldar were so successful?
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Post by: alphaomega
This fits with what people I know in Nottingham have been saying (they drink in Bugman's etc) and have been saying that there is a Necron release at the end of October/start of November.
I took it with a lot of salt, but it would fit for a large release in November again at least.
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Post by: Death By Monkeys
Ascalam wrote:unless the new immortals wow me (and rumors say thay are getting bling and rims, rather than the simple , clean look they have now) i'll be buying up oldschool ones to finish out my list
I've already seen it happening. Went to Empire Games in Phoenix looking for Necrons and the manager told me that a guy had come in and bought up all the stock of Immortals. He wasn't so much worried about what the new plastic Immortals looked like as he said that he just preferred metal to plastic. My thought on Immortals is that if the new plastics look substantially different from the existing metals is that I'm hoping we can use them for the rumored Crypteks.
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Post by: oni
H.B.M.C. wrote:I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
LMAO... I see what you did there.
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Post by: George Spiggott
H.B.M.C. wrote:I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
Robots that build pyramids to avoid inter-galactic cataclysms, only to be awoken by human explorers...
...or robots that leave but state that they shall return at some point in the future? 
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Post by: Padre
George Spiggott wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
Robots that build pyramids to avoid inter-galactic cataclysms, only to be awoken by human explorers...
...or robots that leave but state that they shall return at some point in the future?
Don't forget that the cybermen actually steal bits of humans... (ala flayed ones)!
BUT Necrons can't be T-800s...their weapons have green glowing rods!!! Mega difference!!! 
And yes, that was sarcasm...
Padre^.
(This is what always makes me laugh about the GW apologists on this site who veheremently defend GWs right to protect their IP... how is your argument looking when GW is one of the most derivative companies around!!! Cue IP lawyer-apologists screaming...)
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Post by: Ascalam
Pariahs are also a head-tip to the cybermen- human brains in mechanical bodies.
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Post by: hsojvvad
George Spiggott wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
Robots that build pyramids to avoid inter-galactic cataclysms, only to be awoken by human explorers...
...or robots that leave but state that they shall return at some point in the future?
The Robots that build pyramids... the first thing I thought of was Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
H.B.M.C. wrote:I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
I heard they're reconning Necrons as one of the lost first founding chapters - The Robot Space Marines.
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Post by: Absolutionis
They build pyramids because that is indicative of "ancient" races in fantasy mythos. Even real-world myths talk about ancient aliens creating ziggurats and pyramids.
Also, the tie-in between Egyptian mummies/zombies/skeletons and pyramids is complete with Necrons.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:I heard they're reconning Necrons as one of the lost first founding chapters - The Robot Space Marines.
I really hope that the rumors regarding Necron Warriors having 4+ saves is true.
Robot Marines seceding from the Marine statline paradigm is a welcome change.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:I'd prefer a nice predictable last Saturday Oct reveal and first Saturday Nov release. Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you must...
This sums it up perfectly. I know in my heart of hearts this will happen. Reveal/Preorders on the 22nd or 29th. That's only 3 weeks away...
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Post by: Snord
The local games store is saying Necrons in November. They've always been reliable - including not making long-term predictions about releases (because GW themselves don't have a fixed production schedule). If they don't appear then I'd be prepared to start believing there's something in the rumours about releases being delayed.
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Post by: angelshade00
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:I'd prefer a nice predictable last Saturday Oct reveal and first Saturday Nov release. Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you must...
This sums it up perfectly. I know in my heart of hearts this will happen. Reveal/Preorders on the 22nd or 29th. That's only 3 weeks away...
Not too far away... I hope. By the way, I have not been able to get my hands on October's White Dwarf yet, is there no indication at all in the last page about any November release? You know like that funny Wanted poster printed for the dread fleet game.
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Post by: Sir Harry Flashman, VC
Nothing like that just dreadfleet pics on this back inside and a Dreadfleet sea chart art work thing on the back. I even had a good look at it for clues but nothing relevant I could see. Only 40k in the whole mag is SoB Battle Missions.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
The 22nd is merely TWO weeks away...might as well have a bit of optimism in our hearts eh?
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Post by: Sir Harry Flashman, VC
Are you thinking a week before reveal then? More likely to be in White Dwarf on the 29th Oct.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
If i remember correctly back when this closed-door policy of GW was being implemented, and the black boxes were no longer being sent to stores, the rumor mill (or maybe the press release hell i don't remember all the facts) made mention that all new releases would be previewed with 1 week for pre orders, then the black boxes would arrive on release day (kinda stupid right?) with the codex and new units.
If any sort of reveal comes up by the 22nd then Late october halloweeny necrons might just be on the plate (that's the optimism). A reveal on the 29th probably means the 5th of november is more likely necron day (which most rumors point to, as well)
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Post by: headrattle
I will freely admit to buying more Necron Immortals in order to fluff out my army. I am afraid of new Immortals that have "bling." Not mine! If I get new ones I will file the damn Bling off of them!
Sorry.
The secrecy seems like a bad tactic to me. It is not how you get buzz. You get buzz by leaking little bits and peices onto the internet. Think of what these forums would be like if they gave us blurry pics of the Necrons like they did the Dark Eldar last year. We would be killing puppies to buy them then they came out! Cute adorable puppies, dead because some nerds wanted some small plastic figures.
That must be why they are keeping us in the dark. They are looking out for the puppies.
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Post by: oldone
I would say that it seems to be necrons next as thing back the last few months its all we heard about ( unless they finally give me my god damn tervigon  ) so what do you think they'll done release why's a small wave at the beginning of the month then another at the end like DE ? It just one big wave ?
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Post by: Mad4Minis
tetrisphreak wrote:If i remember correctly back when this closed-door policy of GW was being implemented, and the black boxes were no longer being sent to stores, the rumor mill (or maybe the press release hell i don't remember all the facts) made mention that all new releases would be previewed with 1 week for pre orders, then the black boxes would arrive on release day (kinda stupid right?) with the codex and new units.
If any sort of reveal comes up by the 22nd then Late october halloweeny necrons might just be on the plate (that's the optimism). A reveal on the 29th probably means the 5th of november is more likely necron day (which most rumors point to, as well)
The announcement will probably come on or close to Halloween, release on/near Nov 5th.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
Right when i'm getting decent playing Tau (aka win/loss is about 50%) here comes the book that i bought models for back in May of 2011....I can't complain though, because I really need a tournament army.
Here's crossing my fingers that the next 3 weeks don't take forever!
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Post by: Sidstyler
headrattle wrote:Think of what these forums would be like if they gave us blurry pics of the Necrons like they did the Dark Eldar last year. We would be killing puppies to buy them then they came out! Cute adorable puppies, dead because some nerds wanted some small plastic figures.
The funny thing is, they didn't even do that, fans did. And that kind of thing pissed them off to the point where we have this stupid "no news" policy. This is why pre-orders don't ship until after the release date, why you can't get your White Dwarf (even if you're a subscriber) until after everyone else buys theirs from the store, etc.
GW doesn't like hype, since apparently it hurts their bottom-line. Because you know, saving in anticipation for the new DE probably cost them thousands in sales of the old DE models that no one was buying anyway because they looked like gak. If the new range and codex weren't spoiled when they were then we all would have kept happily buying the old DE that we lost interest in after they'd sat around for a decade without a single ounce of attention.
It just seems like greed, pure and simple. They don't like showing us new stuff because it means they might lose sales on the old stuff, from people who hold on to their money and buy the new kits instead of wasting it on the old, ugly ones and having to replace it in a few months. Although this isn't always the case, sometimes it could encourage sales of existing models since some people like what's currently being offered and want to get it before it's gone, but I suspect GW bean counters don't care, it's the people not buying that make them gak themselves in rage, as they fully expect everyone to buy the current crop of models and the new ones when they're released. Just knowing that the new model will sell isn't good enough.
Honestly though I'm kind of curious to see what new Necrons look like. If the current plastics aren't getting replaced them I'm assuming it means no radical design changes or anything, but still.
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Post by: Mij'aan
My second army will be necrons. So I'm still waiting!
I honestly can't see them changing the plastic warriors much. Even if they do, the little changes they make will be minimal, surely?
I wanna see something new
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
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Post by: Absolutionis
Sidstyler wrote:It just seems like greed, pure and simple. They don't like showing us new stuff because it means they might lose sales on the old stuff, from people who hold on to their money and buy the new kits instead of wasting it on the old, ugly ones and having to replace it in a few months. Although this isn't always the case, sometimes it could encourage sales of existing models since some people like what's currently being offered and want to get it before it's gone, but I suspect GW bean counters don't care, it's the people not buying that make them gak themselves in rage, as they fully expect everyone to buy the current crop of models and the new ones when they're released. Just knowing that the new model will sell isn't good enough.
What old stuff? If I wanted to buy Necron Pariahs, Flayed Ones, or even the Codex itself, I can't! Games Workshop isn't selling me anything even if I were ignorant/willing because I simply cannot buy it. These models are "No Longer Available".
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Post by: Anpu-adom
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
Like to help, but I'm fairly sure that that would result in assault charges in most countries. Sorry.
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Post by: Tabitha
angelshade00 wrote:KilroyKiljoy wrote:Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:I'd prefer a nice predictable last Saturday Oct reveal and first Saturday Nov release. Call me a bluff old traditionalist if you must...
This sums it up perfectly. I know in my heart of hearts this will happen. Reveal/Preorders on the 22nd or 29th. That's only 3 weeks away...
Not too far away... I hope. By the way, I have not been able to get my hands on October's White Dwarf yet, is there no indication at all in the last page about any November release? You know like that funny Wanted poster printed for the dread fleet game.
Necrons will be announced Halloween weekend, like on that Friday or Saturday, and will be in Novembers White Dwarf.
It just seems like greed, pure and simple. They don't like showing us new stuff because it means they might lose sales on the old stuff, from people who hold on to their money and buy the new kits instead of wasting it on the old, ugly ones and having to replace it in a few months. Although this isn't always the case, sometimes it could encourage sales of existing models since some people like what's currently being offered and want to get it before it's gone, but I suspect GW bean counters don't care, it's the people not buying that make them gak themselves in rage, as they fully expect everyone to buy the current crop of models and the new ones when they're released. Just knowing that the new model will sell isn't good enough.
From what I understand its less "Don't tell them so they don't get excited" and more "Don't tell them so people don't form massive preconceptions about the new models based off grainy pictures months before they a released."
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Post by: Eumerin
Tabitha wrote:From what I understand its less "Don't tell them so they don't get excited" and more "Don't tell them so people don't form massive preconceptions about the new models based off grainy pictures months before they a released."
That doesn't explain why they're not letting subscribers have their copies of WD until after it goes on sale in stores, though.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Eumerin wrote:
That doesn't explain why they're not letting subscribers have their copies of WD until after it goes on sale in stores, though.
That is just part of their masterful plan to reduce the number of subscriptions and lower WD sales.
Thanks GW, I have finally kicked the WD habit...
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Post by: Mij'aan
Anpu-adom wrote:KilroyKiljoy wrote:Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
Like to help, but I'm fairly sure that that would result in assault charges in most countries. Sorry.
*Sneaks behind Kilroy and smacks him with a mace* 
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Post by: Kanluwen
Eumerin wrote:Tabitha wrote:From what I understand its less "Don't tell them so they don't get excited" and more "Don't tell them so people don't form massive preconceptions about the new models based off grainy pictures months before they a released."
That doesn't explain why they're not letting subscribers have their copies of WD until after it goes on sale in stores, though.
"Officially" the story is that it's because of the vagueries of the postal services. Some people would get theirs weeks in advance, some weeks later.
Now, they mail it all at once and hope for the best.
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Post by: hsojvvad
CT GAMER wrote:Eumerin wrote:
That doesn't explain why they're not letting subscribers have their copies of WD until after it goes on sale in stores, though.
That is just part of their masterful plan to reduce the number of subscriptions and lower WD sales.
Thanks GW, I have finally kicked the WD habit...
The only reason to get a WD subscribtion is to get it a week ahead, and now they took it away. No use getting one now.
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Post by: Necros
I still haven't gotten my latest WD.. I know it was delayed because some marketing genius thought it was a good idea, but still.
Subscription runs out in december, not gonna renew.
From what I understand its less "Don't tell them so they don't get excited" and more "Don't tell them so people don't form massive preconceptions about the new models based off grainy pictures months before they a released."
Not replying to you but just this subject in general... why release grainy pictures in the first place? I highly doubt those grainy pictures in the past were cellphone pics from a fanboy that knows someone who knows someone who knows someone that let them see the pictures before anyone else. Musta been another marketing genius that though that was a good idea. Why not just give real previews so people can, I dunno, look forward to buying your products?
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Post by: BrassScorpion
Subscription runs out in december, not gonna renew.
I got mine at home on Oct. 7. Not too bad, but not happy at all about the new GW Corporate philosophy on White Dwarf mailing or a pile of other changes made this year. I have a year to go and when my subscription ends I may let it lapse for the first time in more than 2 decades. I've never felt this dispirited about GW before.
Interestingly, the releases from the GW design studio in many ways are better than ever the past couple years. There seems to be an inverse relationship between the creative studio and the marketing and business departments. The better the creativity from the designers the worse customers are treated when it comes to communication, service and prices.
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Post by: Korraz
Or they could look a little to the left.
WotC is a master of the marketing game. The hypes the build up around the M:TG releases, especially the new sets, probably rival those of the Apple Drones (taken the scale of the respective demographics into account.) The hype is so big that there are people frantically scouring websites all over the world, English, German, Japanese, Russion, whatever, for little hints that got leaked to that sites by WotC. There are people that spend hours with the Orb of Insight, a little thing that lets you search for words or numbers and gives you the exact number of times this word appears in the entire set, and those numbers they then craft into statistics, so that other people can spend hours analyzing them and predicitng what the set contains.
The hype is so big, there are people that intentionally shout themselves out of the previews, so they can enjoy the release unspoiled.
And you bet that that stuff sells like sliced bread.
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Post by: army310
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
Dont do a Cartman and freeze your in the mountains. Just wait.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
army310 wrote:KilroyKiljoy wrote:Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
Dont do a Cartman and freeze your in the mountains. Just wait.
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Post by: Mij'aan
army310 wrote:KilroyKiljoy wrote:Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
Dont do a Cartman and freeze your in the mountains. Just wait.
Hello eric, BARK BARK!
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Post by: Starfarer
Sidstyler wrote:headrattle wrote:Think of what these forums would be like if they gave us blurry pics of the Necrons like they did the Dark Eldar last year. We would be killing puppies to buy them then they came out! Cute adorable puppies, dead because some nerds wanted some small plastic figures.
The funny thing is, they didn't even do that, fans did. And that kind of thing pissed them off to the point where we have this stupid "no news" policy.
The reason we have a "no news" policy is because of over-reacting folks who claim the sky is falling with the slightest bit of info, whether it is true or not. Just check any single rumor on any forum and any perceived rules change brings massive speculation which 5 posts down becomes "fact" and people decry the new army as broken, nerfed, and ruining their army(sometimes all at once) before there's ANY indication how it works in conjunction with the rest of the rules. This is all assuming the rumor even turns out to be true. It happens every time, without fail.
I'm not saying GW's policy is good, but browsing forums for a good number of years, and moderating rumors forums at TO when it was still around I saw enough to realize that people's overreactions affected other's perception of new releases, and led to a snowball affect where people had made up their minds before anything was released, and in that regard I can see why GW would want to hold back on releasing info ahead of time.
From a purchasing standpoint I do find it frustrating, though. I want to know roughly what's coming down the pipeline, just so I can budget, if needed, for a release I'm interested in.
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Post by: FabricatorGeneralMike
What I can't believe is that the OP thought he would get any other answer from a GW phone Troll... What did you think you where going to be told in hushed tones and wispers , " I got some secret info for you, hold off on your Necron pruchaces there are new models comming out...now go forth to this 'internet' thingy and let this info blow way out of control MUHAHAHAHAHAH!"
Of course they are going to tell you to keep on buying the necron warrior box.
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Post by: Kroothawk
stickmonkey wrote:Preorders for Necrons go up week of Oct. 23rd.
You will be disappointed that some models only get converted to finecast.
You will be happy with "new" old models.
Big Necron model is more impressive than I thought, visually. Hope it has rules to back it up.
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Post by: ph34r
Some actual info, crazy.
So what can we predict?
I would GUESS:
Destroyers/Heavy Destroyers: new plastic
Immortals: new plastic (same restyling as destroyers)
Warriors: Recut, less per box/more expensive
Wraiths: finecast
Flayed ones: finecast
Necron lord: finecast
Big necron thingy: plastic
Necron transport vehicle?: dual version plastic box?
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Post by: Sidstyler
Cadaver wrote:The reason we have a "no news" policy is because of over-reacting folks who claim the sky is falling with the slightest bit of info, whether it is true or not. Just check any single rumor on any forum and any perceived rules change brings massive speculation which 5 posts down becomes "fact" and people decry the new army as broken, nerfed, and ruining their army(sometimes all at once) before there's ANY indication how it works in conjunction with the rest of the rules. This is all assuming the rumor even turns out to be true. It happens every time, without fail.
Ugh, yeah...but you know that's going to happen anyway, either when the rumors start to spread or when the book finally sees release.
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Post by: Medium of Death
Hopefully they didn't finecast Pariahs...
Fully plastic Immortals/Destroyers are what interests me the most.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
So we're looking at a roughly 2-week countdown for some solid photos and pre-orders? That's more than enough for me, I've been waiting only since May...I know necron players who have been waiting since 5th edition came out for an army that could hang at the tournament scene.
Knowing Mat Ward wrote the rules, (hopefully the 2 others brought in were the fluff writers), I can assume the following about the codex:
It will be a generally torrent-of-fire army with a few high strength shooting weapons.
Necrons are slow, but resilient - T4/T5, good armor saves, WBB throws
The monolith and the necromancer (or whatever the giant MC is going to be called) will be hard to deal with until people figure out a weakness (dreadknights hate plasma, for example).
These are all conjectures based on hope, hope that I (as well as many other necron players) will finally be able to bring an army that looks really cool to a tournament and actually win with it rather than just phasing out all 3 rounds. Who's with me?
2 Weeks...2 Weeks....2 Weeks.......
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Post by: jgemrich
Kroothawk wrote:stickmonkey wrote:Preorders for Necrons go up week of Oct. 23rd.
You will be disappointed that some models only get converted to finecast.
You will be happy with "new" old models.
Big Necron model is more impressive than I thought, visually. Hope it has rules to back it up.
What may be going to Finecast?
Wraiths
Flayed ones
both C'tan
Lords
I don't remember those having rumors of plastic kits.
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Post by: notprop
tetrisphreak wrote:..............knowing Mat Ward wrote the rules, (hopefully the 2 others brought in were the fluff writers), I can assume the following about the codex:
......................
Fluff, I shall paraphrase what will happen -
[ Post BA fist-bump]
Necron #0000001 - "Those BA chaps seemed nice, killed lots of flesh creatures, always nice."
Necron #0209353 - "Yeah, result!"
Necron #3247589 - "Kinda makes you wonder about the whole killing everything plan; those fellers were alright, you know for meatbags."
Two weeks pass without a phone call.
Necron #0000001 - "RAGE!"
Necron #0209353 - "Yeah, I know right? Damn Emo vamps used us!"
Necron #3247589 - "Totally! Plan A it is - kill all meatbags"
I'm not saying it will be exactly like that but definitely something similar.........probably.
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Post by: UltraPrime
That old, old Necron/BA joke never stops being funny. Honest.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
There might be a story in the codex about how the necrons, becoming sentient, fought alongside the BA so they could catch them off guard later with a....sneak attack!
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Post by: Snord
tetrisphreak wrote:There might be a story in the codex about how the necrons, becoming sentient, fought alongside the BA so they could catch them off guard later with a....sneak attack!
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Post by: WarlordRob117
Sidstyler wrote:headrattle wrote:Think of what these forums would be like if they gave us blurry pics of the Necrons like they did the Dark Eldar last year. We would be killing puppies to buy them then they came out! Cute adorable puppies, dead because some nerds wanted some small plastic figures.
The funny thing is, they didn't even do that, fans did. And that kind of thing pissed them off to the point where we have this stupid "no news" policy. This is why pre-orders don't ship until after the release date, why you can't get your White Dwarf (even if you're a subscriber) until after everyone else buys theirs from the store, etc.
GW doesn't like hype, since apparently it hurts their bottom-line. Because you know, saving in anticipation for the new DE probably cost them thousands in sales of the old DE models that no one was buying anyway because they looked like gak. If the new range and codex weren't spoiled when they were then we all would have kept happily buying the old DE that we lost interest in after they'd sat around for a decade without a single ounce of attention.
It just seems like greed, pure and simple. They don't like showing us new stuff because it means they might lose sales on the old stuff, from people who hold on to their money and buy the new kits instead of wasting it on the old, ugly ones and having to replace it in a few months. Although this isn't always the case, sometimes it could encourage sales of existing models since some people like what's currently being offered and want to get it before it's gone, but I suspect GW bean counters don't care, it's the people not buying that make them gak themselves in rage, as they fully expect everyone to buy the current crop of models and the new ones when they're released. Just knowing that the new model will sell isn't good enough.
Honestly though I'm kind of curious to see what new Necrons look like. If the current plastics aren't getting replaced them I'm assuming it means no radical design changes or anything, but still.
I do hope there is some changes to some of the models to help facilitate a full release... I mean if rumors are true concerning Immortal troops... Can you say Paladin killers...
Speaking of GK's... I have to disagree with your statement about shipping preordered models after the release date, as I recieved my GK termies, troops, and Dread all on the day they were released... I dont know if I was special but it fealt good knowing that they came on the day they said they were...
And to all those who said a Crontober was impossible... BLAMMO!!! hows that for a slice of fried gold?!?!?!
(using silly brit movie reference makes me feel funny, but hey whatever sinks your boat... right?)
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Post by: tetrisphreak
Wait I'm confused now, are crons rumors saying October 29 release or November 5 release?
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Post by: WarlordRob117
right now they are saying 22-29 sneak-peek/pre-ordering with a November 5th actual release... though there is much speculation as to whether or not a 22 Oct peek equals an Oct release or not.
At this point dude its all in the air, we'll just have to if we are a better shot than GW thinks we are since they threw the can in the air.
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Post by: angelshade00
I still hold a small hope that C'Tan are not going to go away just because the Necrons 'rebelled'.
I would also like the Pariahs to stay - pretty fluffy (and a good unit, with a little rules boost that is)
I hope that rumors about these two getting out of the scene are not true.
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Post by: lazarian
angelshade00 wrote:I still hold a small hope that C'Tan are not going to go away just because the Necrons 'rebelled'.
I would also like the Pariahs to stay - pretty fluffy (and a good unit, with a little rules boost that is)
I hope that rumors about these two getting out of the scene are not true.
The current rumors have pariahs removed entirely, though a new unit can be utilized for them and the Ctan being build your ownish coming out of the elite section. I think its pretty fair, if the story line is being reticoned or advanced it isnt a bad way to go about it.
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Post by: Ouze
CT GAMER wrote:Thanks GW, I have finally kicked the WD habit...
This will be the first month I won't be getting a WD; the Ogre one was the last one in my subscription and I chose not to resubscribe even though I had the money. I do intend to buy the Necron issue when it's release from the warstore or whatever, and that will be it between us forever, I suspect. It's at least a little funny that my subscription lapsed right before coverage of my most-favorite army, but did last long enough to cover a 2-issue full codex release for the army I'm interested in possibly the least.
I hope this rumor is true, and they are released soon. I've been saving up in anticipation of this, and this coupled with a Warstore gift cert I won on Dakka, I feel I should be easily able to get all the new Necron models I find appealing, which will likely just be plastic heavy destroyers, flayed ones, etc etc. Maybe new immortals if they look nice enough, though I am quite fond of my converted immortals, and almost certainly whatever the new monstrous creature will be. Dunno about the transports; it just seems perplexing that an army with a sufficiently advanced grasp of space\time to be considered nearly magical would still rely on space trucks.
I have no problems with the C'tan going away. I don't think they are appropriate for the tabletop. It would seem even the weakest C'Tan should be essentially invincible against what can be fielded in an average 2k game. I'd prefer they kept the models and considered them to be avatars of the C'tan, or something. Or embiggened the models, and made the apocalypse only with appropriately ridiculous rules.
The only thing that could deter me would be if the codex ruins them fluffwise. Fluff is probably the thing that most interests me in an army.
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Post by: Worglock
H.B.M.C. wrote:I heard that the entire Necron release got delayed because someone once made something that had robots in it, so there's a legal problem over whether they can actually release the Necrons at all.
So you'll be buying 4k points of Necrons? or 5k? Automatically Appended Next Post: UltraPrime wrote:That old, old Necron/BA joke never stops being funny. Honest.
I always thought, that for something to stop being funny, it had to have been funny.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Weird rumours by Blood of Kittens:
TastyTaste wrote:Network News: The Necron Rumor you need to know…and more
Oct 12, 2011
Over the last few months many have noticed rumors surrounding GW releases have been to reduced to a slow drip, instead now get the ludicrous rumors and speculation. At BoK we often hold on to many rumors that sound too implausible in the hopes of scrying the world for verification, this has led us to keep one particular Necron rumor sealed because of possible game breaking power. With the new Necrons seemly a few weeks (because one manager of a random GW store couldn’t be talking out of his ass) from rebirth I think it is time to let this one out of carbonite. It needs notation that this rumor comes in two versions that could end up conflicting with one another, so here is both so the Internet can decide.
Ok, babbling over on to the rumor…
Rumor has it that a new Necron shooting attack can cause large swaths of your opponents army in a new interesting way. How it works is simple…
- Necron Shoots Unit
- Necron Hits Unit
- Necron player allocates where the wound will be (how this is worded I have no idea)
- All identical models to the one just shot are now hit
- Roll to wound all models that are identical
- Make armor saves were applicable
Here is an example. I shoot Necron weapon at a squad of Long Fangs. I hit and chose my wound to be rolled on a Missile Launcher Long Fang. All Missile Launcher Long Fangs IN THE ENTIRE ARMY are now hit. Now think take this a step further. What if I shoot a Ork Boy?
Here is the other way this weapon could work.
- Necron Shoots Unit
- Necron Hits Unit
- Even though I only hit once I roll to wound every model in that unit.
- Opponent makes armor saves where applicable
Now this doesn’t sound as scary as the first example, but it is basically GK Cleansing Fire power for Necrons. This version also fits in with chatter about multiple weapons that deal with horde armies.
Enter highly speculative realm that shouldn’t be taken as facts.
My fear though is that both these rumors are true. Here is a way it could potential work. One type of Necron gets the lesser version of this has this weapon. Another Necron lets say a Special Character gets the power to strike at all identical models army wide. I have a feeling that either way this weapon will be short-range, one shot, low str, and no ap value otherwise we are looking at some game breaking territory.
At least one of these rumors should happen which one though…
Well there you have it folks we are in the stretch run.
If you are curious on what models will be getting a plastic rework or Finecast love just follow the link and look at what cannot add to the cart…
Necron Soon to be New Releases: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/listProducts.jsp?catId=cat440174a
Also if haven’t gotten enough of Necron rumors Madcow over at Heresy-Online has a great rumor compiler here is a copy and paste job.
Or follow the thread over on Heresy-Online here for any updates.
Necron Rumor List http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86992
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Post by: Sir Harry Flashman, VC
Sounds like a twisting of how the Tesla weapons were rumoured to work i.e. jumping like lightning around units and the heavy versions between different units (friend or foe!)
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Post by: ph34r
That sounds pretty abusive. Amazing vs some armies, very bad against others.
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Post by: Sidstyler
Honestly temporary alliances in 40k never bother me that much. Now granted, the Necrons are one of the last races I could see doing that, but I guess it kinda makes sense if Necron lords are supposed to be more independent now, I dunno.
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Post by: bob2112
So if I understand correctly, the current design of the necron's wil not change?
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Anpu-adom wrote:KilroyKiljoy wrote:Someone wanna try and put me in a coma until the 22nd? I don't want to wait anymore...
Like to help, but I'm fairly sure that that would result in assault charges in most countries. Sorry.
You can always use a hammer. Just apply to face.
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Post by: Ascalam
or Megamind's Forget-Me stick
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Post by: Vampirate of Sartosa
Hopefully, there won't be an Ultralove, Angel-Necron buddies or Mary Draigod incident that will make people hate Matt Ward even more. I mean, he must know how much hate he's getting- surely he's thought to be careful about what he writes by now?
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Post by: Monster Rain
Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:I mean, he must know how much hate he's getting- surely he's thought to be careful about what he writes by now?
If I were him I'd turn the rage-inducing fluff all the way up to 11.
It's one of my top 3 favorite things about online 40k forums.
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Ouze wrote:
The only thing that could deter me would be if the codex ruins them fluffwise. Fluff is probably the thing that most interests me in an army.
Necrons don't really have fluff right now, so it'd be pretty hard to ruin.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Ouze wrote:CT GAMER wrote:Thanks GW, I have finally kicked the WD habit...
This will be the first month I won't be getting a WD; the Ogre one was the last one in my subscription and I chose not to resubscribe even though I had the money. I do intend to buy the Necron issue when it's release from the warstore or whatever, and that will be it between us forever, I suspect. It's at least a little funny that my subscription lapsed right before coverage of my most-favorite army, but did last long enough to cover a 2-issue full codex release for the army I'm interested in possibly the least.
I have been a subscriber for many years, but will not renew.
If I have to wait until after stores have it I will simply buy the 1-2 issues annually of any actual worth/interest to me AFTER I have checked them out at a store or a friend's copy, and pass on the rest.
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Post by: vitki
CT GAMER wrote:
I have been a subscriber for many years, but will not renew.
If I have to wait until after stores have it I will simply buy the 1-2 issues annually of any actual worth/interest to me AFTER I have checked them out at a store or a friend's copy, and pass on the rest.
+1 to this. I have been a subscriber since they started offering subscriptions.
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Post by: Ouze
Monster Rain wrote:If I were him I'd turn the rage-inducing fluff all the way up to 11.
It's one of my top 3 favorite things about online 40k forums.
I agree 110%. Obviously, it helps that I'm a terrible person, but if I were Matt Ward, in this codex, I'd ruin it. I'd ruin it so hard. I'd then sit back with a glass of wine, open Dakka on one monitor and BOLS or something on the other, and just nod and smile while psychically licking tears of rage off the cheeks of fanboys the world over.
Essentially, I'd be George Lucas.
How would I ruin it, you ask? Well I'd... oh hey, I already covered this in April. Let me save myself some typing:
6 months ago, Ouze wrote:1.) They are going to be the new OMGWTFBBQ army. Look forward to all Warriors having FNP, 2 wounds, rending weapons, and cost 10 points each, as well as other left-field nonsense like, I don't know, the monolith spawning d6 deep striking destroyers per turn; and scarabs that can belch template melta...
AND/OR
2.) They're going to have the new wtf codex in... other ways, as well. I look forward the lords who can transform into hovercraft and who can challenge single HQ units to a freestyle rap-off for victory points, or a new C'Tan - Skullcron; who is made out of a giant skull, and has eyes made of skulls, when he opens his mouth, it shoots skulls, or perhaps background stories where the real reason Necrons are so 2x butthurt all the time is because they are the product of a human mother and a Honda pleasure droid, and one day their human daddy went to go get some cigarettes and never came back, so that's the real reason they reap the living.
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Post by: angelshade00
About the C'tan: I don't mind them leaving the tabletop.
I'd just like them staying in the fluff. Having innumerable metal warriors reaping millions of the living to feed the insatiable hunger of immortal star-gods... what else can you ask in life?
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Post by: Anpu-adom
angelshade00 wrote:About the C'tan: I don't mind them leaving the tabletop.
I'd just like them staying in the fluff. Having innumerable metal warriors reaping millions of the living to feed the insatiable hunger of immortal star-gods... what else can you ask in life?
A beer and a really good sandwich.
I too wouldn't mind if the C'tan were not HQ's. There was a rumor that the 'real' C'tan have awoken and that the current C'tan are 'rogue'. There might be an interesting way to have chaos necrons. (Wouldn't that be weird...)
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