Alright, thanks to some very Russian looking heads I got from Vik, that also include different anti-gas measures), I have decided to take a small platoon that has such that make them all look more fat headed, and criminal looking, I have decided that Viks' gift would best help improve the look of the Tyarvetzian platoon.

The entire platoon from Tyarvetzya, Just one of the members of the Konfederation that contributes via troops.(Before new heads)
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Presenting 1st sqd! the sgt prefers walking with just the goggles on.
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Hey Shazo the great coats look gret with both head sets. nice to see a thread in this neck of the woods .

neil101 wrote:Hey Shazo the great coats look gret with both head sets. nice to see a thread in this neck of the woods .

Thanks Neil, The great coats came with a selection of heads. But Vik sent me just enough for a smallish platoon like this one. Happened to work out just that way

Now for more 2nd sqd!
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That shot you can see that the Sarge has a very different issue rifle from the rest of the team.


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From Left to right, Vet w/flamer, Medic, Officer, Vox-man, vet w/flamer. This section likes to close with the enemy in support of the squadies and cook the foe!
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cool force! now i see it was worth it^^ one day i need me to get me some great coats bodies.... i like them, but the gunarms and the weapons (which i already own are not really my style for 40k...high detailed i grant you that but also quite flimsy...i use them mostly for conversions and chopp them up....their mags look quite nice on cadian weapons^^

the heads and also the whole command platoon looks the best! are they heading for primer or will more tankwork keep you from working with them?^^

cheers, i like the way those Tyarvetzya`s are heading (hurhurhur)

Viktor von Domm wrote:cool force! now i see it was worth it^^ one day i need me to get me some great coats bodies.... i like them, but the gunarms and the weapons (which i already own are not really my style for 40k...high detailed i grant you that but also quite flimsy...i use them mostly for conversions and chopp them up....their mags look quite nice on cadian weapons^^

the heads and also the whole command platoon looks the best! are they heading for primer or will more tankwork keep you from working with them?^^

cheers, i like the way those Tyarvetzya`s are heading (hurhurhur)

Thanks Vik! They will get a base priming soon, weather permitting.

Here is the whole platoon, command in front, sqds to either side!
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that is quite a respectable force now...cool...seeing them all assembled makes me want to start painting again too^^ guess i have to make my work with GS quicker now^^

Yeah, they all worked out okay, and the medics mask seems to fit, he also got the smaller pistol.

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i really like what you did to that old submachine gun^^ ppsh 41! looks very unique!

Viktor von Domm wrote:i really like what you did to that old submachine gun^^ ppsh 41! looks very unique!

But in those hands it is a definite big pistol! The Lt can use it for enemies and recalcitrant soldiers alike!

yup^^ nothing as so motivating to see your next in line getting a final treatment due insubordination^^

Those are looking great! Nice to see something totally different for Guardsmen bodies. I can't really pick out the details on the heads though until they get some kind of primer on them (light glare on metal) But if you got them from Vik I'm sure they have nice rivets all over them

@Vik: Yep, never know who will get where due to that sort of method!

@dsteingass: Thanks! once the primer is set, the flash will cease that glare issue!

Great. ANOTHER thread to subscribe to. I enjoy "alternate" Guard projects so very much. I have a few of those miniatures in my Cult army. Where did you get the gas mask heads? I'm going to read back through the thread again in case I missed it, but a link would be awesome.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

I really want to try using some of the 28mm Victrix Napoleonics for Guard conversions.
But of course, all the cool miniatures are only made in the friggin UK, can't just go to my FLGS and pick some up. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to see what I'm buying before paying.
Vik- These Highlanders would be easy Steampunk Conversions for you! http://www.victrixlimited.com/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=32_33&products_id=55&osCsid=fb5a9d3db184bbfa79c2c4f397c0db7aEven molded with kilts!

Sweet Shaslo. Theres something magical about a huge built but unpainted force. Like i imagine some factory on a forgeworld pumping out tanks. I never had that with my army. I did one guy at a time. Im slightly more insane now lol.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Great. ANOTHER thread to subscribe to. I enjoy "alternate" Guard projects so very much. I have a few of those miniatures in my Cult army. Where did you get the gas mask heads? I'm going to read back through the thread again in case I missed it, but a link would be awesome.

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

Vik sent the heads to me so I could make the platoon more interesting!

dsteingass wrote:I really want to try using some of the 28mm Victrix Napoleonics for Guard conversions.
But of course, all the cool miniatures are only made in the friggin UK, can't just go to my FLGS and pick some up. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to see what I'm buying before paying.
Vik- These Highlanders would be easy Steampunk Conversions for you! http://www.victrixlimited.com/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=32_33&products_id=55&osCsid=fb5a9d3db184bbfa79c2c4f397c0db7aEven molded with kilts!

Yes, IG are supposed to have a wide range of uniforms and kit, not all of the regiments are complettley the same looking.

bebopdrums2424 wrote:Sweet Shaslo. Theres something magical about a huge built but unpainted force. Like i imagine some factory on a forgeworld pumping out tanks. I never had that with my army. I did one guy at a time. Im slightly more insane now lol.

Well, my Khadrovian Fluff Thread ahs the explanation for so many different styles of uniforms as it is a Konfederacy of 20 worlds, each contributing in their own ways!

i got those heads dead cheap of ebay and i couldn´t find a good use for my own needs so i sent them over the big lake to shaso^^

but dont ask me where they are from...lost memory^^

and yep dsetin... always thought about using the victrix stuff for my army...for reference look to neil 101´s thread, he used the french soldiers of their range and he states they are a tad more realistic than heroic scale and you probably know what that means... but a whole squad would work i think...

I have already bought and collected more miniatures than I think I can ever paint as it is, yet there is so much more out there!

dsteingass wrote:I have already bought and collected more miniatures than I think I can ever paint as it is, yet there is so much more out there!

Hoarder collection today, estate sale tomorrow.

ouch.... i know that feeling^^

I'm hoping for a traditional Norse funeral and have all my stuff burned with me.

nawww... my kids will hopefully hold dear to my work^^

1st sqd with their primer coat
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Nine of the ten man squad can line up with the tank, leaving it up to sarge to stand out front.
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That is going to be a very unique and colorful force with a lot of character.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:That is going to be a very unique and colorful force with a lot of character.

The tank camo is quite different from the soldierly uniform camo.

Now with the longer T-400
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Your tanks are so sick! I love the European WWI look to them (and the irony of a WWI tank being used to fight battles that use WWI tactics in the grim darkness of the far future isn't lost on me). What stats do you run them with? If that's WYSIWYG then man you've pushing some firepower across the table.

Man I hate 5th Ed. In 2nd you could actually make a datafax for that vehicle.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Your tanks are so sick! I love the European WWI look to them (and the irony of a WWI tank being used to fight battles that use WWI tactics in the grim darkness of the far future isn't lost on me). What stats do you run them with? If that's WYSIWYG then man you've pushing some firepower across the table.

Man I hate 5th Ed. In 2nd you could actually make a datafax for that vehicle.

Thanks Skalk! Yeah, much of the game is actually WW-I and the second world war, go figure as the GW is based in England, and that those were their best times as it were. Oh I use Chapter Approved 2004 Vehicle Design Rules(V.D.R.) to make them and yes, those beasts are WYSIWYG. with 14/134/12 armor

I've always loved IG in trench coats. I'm sad that GW has never felt the need to make them in plastic, I think they're missing out on a great seller personally. I really like what you're doing here, it captures the rough, campaign veterans look I always picture for IG in trenchcoats.

Red_Starrise wrote:I've always loved IG in trench coats. I'm sad that GW has never felt the need to make them in plastic, I think they're missing out on a great seller personally. I really like what you're doing here, it captures the rough, campaign veterans look I always picture for IG in trenchcoats.

Thank you, I have more great coats from the same source with two other heads/masks on to paint up as well.

even more^^ yummy^^

will the not so thoroughly primed spots give you trouble when painting? or can this be fixed with a lick of choas black?

A touch of chaos black will fix the spots.

yup thought so as well...

Nice part is that the spray may also have helped even though it does not show it.

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you think it has covered just enough to make a sealed surface but it is so thin that it shines through? hmm... youd be the case...

It is, the paint will stick

Yeah, you never want to try re-spraying those missed spots with a rattle can, it WILL ALWAY ALWAYS get too thick. Just touch them up with a brush.

dsteingass wrote:Yeah, you never want to try re-spraying those missed spots with a rattle can, it WILL ALWAY ALWAYS get too thick. Just touch them up with a brush.

Precisely! Once to settle it in, the armnor and base color of the uniforms will be done so that I can add more pictures to the Great coats thread!

well i cross fingers for you to amaze us^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:well i cross fingers for you to amaze us^^

Of course!

With my crazy urban block camo Great coats and the O.D. Green armor mix to make people eyes cross and all!

you know that you are indeed tempting me to buy me some of the greatcoats bodies...i have a truckload of arms and heads lying around and they just beg to be of use and some greatcoat bodies would be a simple and if i recall correctly cheaper way then buying bitz of bodies and legs.... these are quite expensive right now in my view...

Viktor von Domm wrote:you know that you are indeed tempting me to buy me some of the greatcoats bodies...i have a truckload of arms and heads lying around and they just beg to be of use and some greatcoat bodies would be a simple and if i recall correctly cheaper way then buying bitz of bodies and legs.... these are quite expensive right now in my view...

Well, I did spend about 118bucks to get 130men, and they came with the arms and heads and everything. I saw one of your "riveters" had the flamer from the Greatcoats set i have. as a rivet gun.

spot on mate^^ well you do know your bitz it seems^^ the flamer guns have nice muzzles...i like to play with bitz like that... the main guns, the shotguns and all the others look too feeble in my opinion...but the heads, which i own quite a few and the bodies... which i don´t are really cool looking...i have to recacullate and think it over how much i am able to invest on...when then i buy only the bodies on a bitzshop site...

Well, the main rifles are the shotgun looking ones, but in fact are in fact an auto-rifle with underslung shot gun.

Or they can be used as a lasgun or shotgun.(but shotguns are Vet weapons and stormtrooper/grenadier weapons.

I gave the sarges here the beefed up las guns, which are a more standard IG rifle is Las-guns but the stats in the game, lasguns and auto-guns are same Strength, and only difference is the amount of shots each get's so a autogun ha a 30roiund mag and lasgun is 100shots, unless it is set different, or is emergency recharged in a fire, then it is 50 shots.

DKoK have 25 shot rifles, but they are supposed to have a more punchy effect at getting past armor.(fluff in Vraks campaign)

but in game they are with unlimited amo??? or do you have to count shots spent as well???

well somehow i see that the wargames factory guys had to make new weapons but i am more sold on the GW weaponry... it looks more beefy and a tad more like a weapon i would want to wield then any of the ones they are issued with...


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this the main gun you mentioned?



guess i have to look if i own that one at all...

Viktor von Domm wrote:but in game they are with unlimited amo??? or do you have to count shots spent as well???

well somehow i see that the wargames factory guys had to make new weapons but i am more sold on the GW weaponry... it looks more beefy and a tad more like a weapon i would want to wield then any of the ones they are issued with...


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this the main gun you mentioned?



guess i have to look if i own that one at all...

No worries Vik, in WH40K ammo is no concern, your guys are considered having enough for the entire battles.

Yep, that gun! as beefy as the standard "Short pattern" lasgun the Cadians get.

will check my bittzbox later on...i guess i have some still in my box... it looks a tad like the elysian version of the bullpop lasgun...ain´t it?

Definitely a bull-pup ammo feed like the Elysian carbines.

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boy that was quick...what will the carpace armor get for a color? will there be black squiggly lines? or rather some dots?

They are gonna get plain O.D. green with a lighter green trim
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What a platoon can do with the right orders! Dead daemons waiting to become vapor!

well actually that many demons would send the squads crying back to their mums^^ but your soldiers score for coolness^^ and that is something at least to look forward to when your about to go to hades^^

Be assured, at such fights the Kommissar will be watching their backs!

by the way... have you seen the heavy weapons guys from wargames factory? they practically screem commissar to me...^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:by the way... have you seen the heavy weapons guys from wargames factory? they practically screem commissar to me...^^

I have indeed seen their heavy weapons set! I have no money yet!

yep i know that feeling....

Viktor von Domm wrote:yep i know that feeling....

And then, I still have the other great coats to finish up as well.

yep it is a devil of a vicious circle...

It is. I have so many soldiers and tanks yet!

looking good shaso! So grey is the primary color here?

Adeptus battle gray followed by more grays. Mixed with O.D. Green hard armor.

I love the tank btw

Young_Logan wrote:I love the tank btw

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And more can be found on the thread here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2100/326377.page

It is. I have so many soldiers and tanks yet!

when it comes to soldiers...oh boy... i have about fourty watzone soldiers collecting dust...and then millions of catachans, mordians, cadians...and about 20 ratlings too...in fact i don´t need to buy me any soldiers anymore^^ but it is like eating chips really... you never get full^^

Yeah, three sets of Greatcoats, Vostroyans(4th set), cadians with and without Tau like helms, catachans, Valhallans, some Necromunda,VOID, and Warzone of my own collected troops to fill the infantry side.

och that is a massive to do list^^ and then your big backlist of leman russes still on top^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:och that is a massive to do list^^ and then your big backlist of leman russes still on top^^

More than just the lemans! also Chimeras and other vehicles to work on!

But here, a lighter gray has been added!
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only to be fully seen when zooming in! but i see now the camo is quite a tideous work to do...i have by the way still a bit of a problem with the handgun of the second to the right guy on the last pic... that gun looks akward... any way you could do something about it to make it look less drill like and more like a true weapon?

I may have to drill the barrel and add say a muzzle extender or "silencer" on it, but it is the Medics' weapon. More for delivering the
"Mercy of the Emperor"

silencer muzzle/ muffler would be a nice idea... the main issue i have is with the round object just under the barrel...maybe if you could make it look like more of a mag of this kind of gun:

that long mag would look quite good on it...the mauser is by the way a good weapon choice for russian themed armies...they too used that design...iirc

Viktor von Domm wrote:silencer muzzle/ muffler would be a nice idea... the main issue i have is with the round object just under the barrel...maybe if you could make it look like more of a mag of this kind of gun:

that long mag would look quite good on it...the mauser is by the way a good weapon choice for russian themed armies...they too used that design...iirc

Or a knock off version as many things Russia used early wars were copies from foreign designs mainly French and American, with others tossed in.So if i find a straight clip somewhere, I could cut and pin a new one to replace that drum, but drums usually hold more rounds than straights.


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Broom handle Mauser! Model 1898

yep the ole broom handle^^

well the thing is it loks as your current drum mag is facing the wrong dircetion as usual drums do...normally they face onwards, yours looks sideways to me...more like a cam...the old ones

That magazine drum is reminding me less of Russian and more french style of long ago. I could not find the design online, so it is very obscured design.

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ok i am a bit not sold on the green masks....from my own knowledge russians had a more greyish colored gasmask style but as i myself wore a green mask...so i thinkit will fit the bill... beside a wash later on will bring them to full swing....i would suggest there a devlan mud wash by the way.. that brownish stuff could very well help make a real feal about them...

here are some of my research pics of that kind of guntype amo fed...:







tho not all looking exactly like your specimen^^

True, the wash will fix a lot of the things on the men.

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i saw that gun i think in a fallout game iirc...

Viktor von Domm wrote:i saw that gun i think in a fallout game iirc...

You confused that with the Gauss rifle methinks

with it's crank

er... no... there were a bunch of crappy guns in fallaout tactics... all of the heavy artillery nature... machineguns the lot... chineese and WWI ones... some i only came to know through this game...

Still, very MG34-inspired!

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Once I get done with the Tyarvetzyans, I can work on the Murmanskyans and Arkeletsyan platoons.

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I like the painting style but am confused at the color agreement. If the primary color is urban camo, I don't understand the drab green everything else. I would think black or a noticeably darker shade of gray or bluish slate would "fit" better?

Not going to 2nd guess your paint scheme, but I get into it more if I understood it better.

i hadn´t even remembered that there were any skin showing on those heads^^

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I like the painting style but am confused at the color agreement. If the primary color is urban camo, I don't understand the drab green everything else. I would think black or a noticeably darker shade of gray or bluish slate would "fit" better?

Not going to 2nd guess your paint scheme, but I get into it more if I understood it better.

All a part of beaurocratic snafu thing. I have the konfederacy made up of several planets, each supplies what they can, and the makers for their helmets and armor make them in O.D Green rather than grey, the Spetznats get black armor with grey splinter patterns as that was a specific order. The coats and much of the uniforms are urban/Mountain/winter camo and the result is the mix you see. The Arkeletsyans make their own gear and hence the armor for them will be the dark Adeptus Battle Grey.And their coats will have the camo.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i hadn´t even remembered that there were any skin showing on those heads^^

Just a few, and only one with the face totally uncovered I used and that was the Vox man for the Lt.

Hey shazza , me old mucker That meat shield looks amazing mate, i dont think i have seen many of your ig guys before.. definitely sits well with your Armour . The colour is very naturalistic. Any chance of seeing a few shots next to your behemoths ?

Once the batteries for the camera is recharged,I will have them stand with one or more of the Big Tanks!

gosh you deplete these quite often^^

Yeah, but that was why I got re-chargeable ones! it has saved me much over the long haul. but more pics later when I am awake and able to take ' em!

well have a good night then^^ i too by the way have a rechargeable battery powered cam... otherwise i would have been broke after each session of pictures taking...all that flashing^^

Well, as a fulfilled request, here are the 1st Sqd advancing alongside a Malcador Defender.
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So there you have it, all posed with three of the biggest of my beasties!

Hey shaz , love the shots , The grunts sheltering behind the tanks , is really quite realistic ,and shows you know your stuff regarding tank tactics, not that anyone would doubt the tank master ;-) , The pics are like a mini diorama , you should really make a nice board for them and some suitably ruinous buildings. Thanks for sharing matey , its cool to see all those iG boys , They have a valhallan look to them , now i think about it , great work all round matey. The tanks and infantry loo great together.

neil101 wrote:Hey shaz , love the shots , The grunts sheltering behind the tanks , is really quite realistic ,and shows you know your stuff regarding tank tactics, not that anyone would doubt the tank master ;-) , The pics are like a mini diorama , you should really make a nice board for them and some suitably ruinous buildings. Thanks for sharing matey , its cool to see all those iG boys , They have a valhallan look to them , now i think about it , great work all round matey. The tanks and infantry loo great together.

Thanks Neil! It also works in games of 40K as the opponent only sees the tanks, or if they see one or two of the troops, they get a nice mobile 4+ cover save! Alas, my apartment has so little in the way of space for a table, but I could snap pics one day at the local game shop and use the scenery I helped with assembling to replace worn out card stock buildings with. The plastics glued to MDF board look quite nice. That would give a nice feel!

As for the Valhallan edge of the minis, that is in no small part thanks to Vik shipping me the heads he had no use for! (Russian style heads in a Victorian inspired army just would not sit well, Vik needs more tamo-chanters? and pith helms!) These pics also give the viewer a feel for how massive the metal beasts actually are, dwarfing the men as it were.

Looking pretty awesome Shas! With the advancing poses, and that awesome urban camo they look perfect choking on exhaust!

LOL! choke on exhaust or choke on bullets, their choice, and I showed which one they made. Also helps how they have masks and rebreathers.

i demand that you make a nice neutral photobox so that shots like that can be used with old pics of the wars and then cobbled together in one nice scene...gosh!!!

i demand that you make a nice neutral photobox so that shots like that can be used with old pics of the wars and then cobbled together in one nice scene...gosh!!!

Well, the situation does not allow me to make such a thing at this time. But I know what you mean these guys deserve a nice bit of scenery to pose with!


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the flamers look good with their new furcaps!! will you add a lens effect to the masks goggles?

@Vik: I added a drop of electric blue to the lenses, but can likely give a dash of white for that extra shiny effect.

Meanwhile, more uniform details! Collars and cuffs!
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whoa.... that red totally took me unprepared...where did that come from...? is that a squad marking or are those greatclaoks just uniformed that way? i think i have to get used to that a bit... startled me a little^^

Hey shazza , the guys are looking good , nice work with the lenses.

I was inspired by your guys to make this , hope you don't mind.

exactly what i had in mind... now get that old style movie tarnish on the pic and you have nice moody styled pics of these fellas!!! cool work neil!

Sweet photo shop skills there Neil!

shasolenzabi wrote:All a part of beaurocratic snafu thing. I have the konfederacy made up of several planets, each supplies what they can, and the makers for their helmets and armor make them in O.D Green rather than grey, the Spetznats get black armor with grey splinter patterns as that was a specific order. The coats and much of the uniforms are urban/Mountain/winter camo and the result is the mix you see. The Arkeletsyans make their own gear and hence the armor for them will be the dark Adeptus Battle Grey.And their coats will have the camo.

Completely get it. If you do some "fluff" for these guys, be sure to include that info becasue it's not likely that I'll be the only person to wonder that.

Looking great so far, and thanks for the followup.

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Completely get it. If you do some "fluff" for these guys, be sure to include that info becasue it's not likely that I'll be the only person to wonder that.

Looking great so far, and thanks for the followup.

I am trying to remember if that was including in my Khadrovian Konfederacy fluff in Daka-fiction section, may have sunk to a few pages .


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Found it, page three of this thread, it also has many banter posts between Vik, myself and Shrike as well as some rip roaring action stories about some Khadrovian Characters!

yup... i think on one page there actually was a small bit of banter too....*hides with a hint of gilt in the shadows*

But at least i linked and bumped so he can find it

yup read it there too^^

I made sure to tie things in to fit! I can also likely make a Khadrovian fluff for the Warpath game if needs be! ^^

Warpath

??? have i missed something?

If folks want to change to another game system, I can adapt to it. I also have another game set from a college professor/gamer " Lazergrenadiers"

lazergrenadiers... sounds german to me... as i just researched.. dust tactics? aha...

Viktor von Domm wrote:lazergrenadiers... sounds german to me... as i just researched.. dust tactics? aha...

I have Dust tactics as well, but no, more like this http://godfox.com/index.htm
http://godfox.com/lsgrn-pages/lasergrenadiers.htm

hmmm.. some alternative rulesset when GW finally makes the ultimative error one day...^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm.. some alternative rulesset when GW finally makes the ultimative error one day...^^

He had images of his own marines and the 25mm and such troops with anime models and mixed robot torsos on WW-II tank chassis in place of turrets! But I think I would adjust the points costs down as his game a marine is 80 pts! but all manner of weapons were possible

Also, all those miniatures w/o a game set to work with? Gotta be ready for any and all eventualities!

quote: Gotta be ready for any and all eventualities!


lol... as if some one would ask you...:
you and what army...?

well *looks behind him* mine obviously^^

My massive forces!

well i think i better be off for some shopping then^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:

well i think i better be off for some shopping then^^

Happy shopping!

thanks mate^^

Bring home some goodies Vik! Post pics of your supply drop!

will do so^^

Gonna pain that flag now that the glue-soaked paper has dried with some flexibility to it!

cool....this will be nice to see tomorrow...

Gogo Shas!

So, now the platoon needs a wash of a dirty color, and the flag on the tank is to be done, and then disruptions as i move my computer to a quieter spot in the apartment.


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praise the flag! and please if you have done the washed up work to the minis then show us some good lighted pics...i long for some details^^


by the way... you seem to be nearing the end with these... what will you do for base deco for the lot of them?

Viktor von Domm wrote:praise the flag! and please if you have done the washed up work to the minis then show us some good lighted pics...i long for some details^^


by the way... you seem to be nearing the end with these... what will you do for base deco for the lot of them?

Yeah the flash was a bit off if you get my meaning, so the yellow effect came in.

Here are some clearer pics as I then painted the men in formation!
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As for the bases, I have the sand flock, which will be painted in greys for the effect of crushed 'crete at their feet as they are urban-camoed.

sounds like a good plan for the bases... seeing those poor fellows i like the scarffaced ones the best... really sad faces....typical for IG´s in my view^^

seeing also that blue spark on the flamer guy i have had an i dea for quite long... i have a tail from an imperial horse...also a DE helmet detail that i always wanted to be used as a form of flames or mabye just a small igniting flame...

Yep! Oh those guys will be okay! they have scarves made with a chemical treated carbon liner that acts as a cheap gas mask.

The Sargeants with no masks figure they can put one on pretty fast.

Interesting idea, have to see how that goes.

Oh once these guys are done, I will finish that platoon and vet squad of Murmansyan GC IG. Then the Arkeletsyans.

gosh i get so confused with all these differnt russian names^^ so the current ones are the Murmansyan ones? and what were the Arkeletsyans looking like? i guess sooner or later you have to make a pictorial portfolio of all your gathered troops... one or two models each type and a short description of each... like in the


wher they show some sketches of common troops like chem solduiers and mordians and such likes...actually i like that idea^^

Presently the pics show the Tyarvetzyans
I started but need to resume work on the Murmansyans(they look like Helgast troopers)
Then the armored gas masked Arkeletsyans who come from the volcanoe made nuclear winter world of Arkeletsya


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Then I can work on the ( Catachans), Casakrainea forest troops.

boy thats a wide range you can show then...


definatly do a picture and fluffy overview...please^^ not imidiatly but eventually^^

I have a wider range of minis than that my friend!

Okay GC';s with three head sets styles
Catachans
Cadians
Vostroyan GCs
Valhallans
Van Saar gang
Buahaus Hussars 1st run
Buahaus jungle kommandos
Kasrkins(Spetznats)

I've just now collected my first OOP Valhallans, they were sooo caked with old paint attempts that I literally destroyed a dremel wire wheel stripping that cake off. Absolutely timeless sculpts.

dsteingass wrote:I've just now collected my first OOP Valhallans, they were sooo caked with old paint attempts that I literally destroyed a dremel wire wheel stripping that cake off. Absolutely timeless sculpts.

Oh, you did not soak them in simple green, or as they are metal brake fluid to soften those paints?

Fortunately the few Valhallans I have were either one coated, or not painted at all. Mainly Hvyweapon teams and some squadies I have them mixed amongst the Cadians (with their oddly Tau like helms)

Yeah, that was what was left on them after soaking in simple green for a week.

shasolenzabi wrote:Also, all those miniatures w/o a game set to work with? Gotta be ready for any and all eventualities!

Pick up an old copy of Space Marine (aka Epic) and play a game w/ 28mm figures.

never showed thse van saar guys... i have some too and always thought about them to be expanded to a full platoon too... and those bauhaus ones are reserved for my german inspired WWI troops of chaosy renegandes...

Viktor von Domm wrote:never showed thse van saar guys... i have some too and always thought about them to be expanded to a full platoon too... and those bauhaus ones are reserved for my german inspired WWI troops of chaosy renegandes...

I have them as a contingent of Vets in carapace armor. I.E. Grenadier veterans with a melta/hvy flamer/grenade launcher

Van Saar is just a small sqd

Just a few more details to go and then wash, go to the next platoon!

Shas, you are cordially invited over to Rawson's thread to accept your destiny in the League of Extraordinary Riveters. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/370649.page

dsteingass wrote:Shas, you are cordially invited over to Rawson's thread to accept your destiny in the League of Extraordinary Riveters. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/370649.page

Thank you, thank you verah much, yeah!

after all you and your glue gun rivets made you one of the founding fathers!

Viktor von Domm wrote:after all you and your glue gun rivets made you one of the founding fathers!

True, and oh so much more rivetting to be done on the next tank to be done, That why my troops as seen on this thread get a classy ride!

for using the image in your sig you need to take the link for forums mate!

I think I need the code
Ah, figured it out!

aye!

Have contempated making rivets on helmets as the webbing inside is usually anchored that way.

hmmm nice idea... will you use GS or styrene rods? or your PVA rivets? or maybe just a drop of superglue would work too...

Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm nice idea... will you use GS or styrene rods? or your PVA rivets? or maybe just a drop of superglue would work too...

Very tiny drops of pVA at either side

just drink a wee drop of cognac beforehand!^^ to steady yourself for this tiny work!

Viktor von Domm wrote:just drink a wee drop of cognac beforehand!^^ to steady yourself for this tiny work!

Ah, I remember the cognac dropped in my Geisermass

It helps if you are an escaped mental patient too.

Ssh! no video tape, can't prove anything!,,,,they re coming from the corners! RUN!!!!

dstein... lol...pssssst... they are still searching, you do know...

shaso... a wee drop... not a keg^^ becuase if the measure is too steep you might need something to actually hold your hand^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:dstein... lol...pssssst... they are still searching, you do know...

shaso... a wee drop... not a keg^^ becuase if the measure is too steep you might need something to actually hold your hand^^

Hey a geisermass was one shot of cognac and half liter of coke and half liter of bier

did you still stand upright after that? as i tested myself... either stay with sparkly booze or smarting booze... mix both and i yell over the carpet^^.. done so, bought the ticket....

Viktor von Domm wrote:did you still stand upright after that? as i tested myself... either stay with sparkly booze or smarting booze... mix both and i yell over the carpet^^.. done so, bought the ticket....

I would normally drink three of those, then to get more so, like some harder drinks or simply go for a smaller bier. Loved the Hefeweizen! I may get that for more work as I drink

well me and booze never got much together... not much good anyways...seems alc and also smoke was something i could get never get the hang out of... my first zig got me in a state i thought i was stoned^^

I also tried the testube drink "Dracula", bleh@!

40K is Amasec or local brews or spirits.

yep you teached me about amasec in your fiction thread^^

be carful about colorful drink... and sweet drinks too! they are fiendish!

Yeah, the sweet ones sneak up on ya!

Liquor before beer, never fear. Beer before liquor, never sicker.

lol... that proverb is also quite known in germany too... seems it is a general truth...

Hey with Geisermass you get liquor and beer as one drink! Same with the litannermass.

tried to google those terms with no results^^ where do you get these words^^

Back in the 1980s, German pubs I drank at!
Maybe it is spelled Geisermahs? I m,ean the 1litre beer mugs of glass filled with beer/coke/cognbac and the letnaermahs? with white wine in the mug and cherrycordial in a smaller glass in side it.

oh then you probably mean litre maas^^ yaeh a big mug basically filled with horse...beer...^^ and as you stated it with liqor and such stuff... the amount and the sweetness makes puking a nice expierience for sure^^

Here we get German imported beer Kostritzer. (köstritzer schwarzbier) I like it.

yah that is my favorite beer... when i drink beer i be sure to drink only darker beer and no pilsner... as that is not my taste...aslo guinness too and kilkenny... but a good schwarzbeer like the köstritzer is what i like the most! something for the tastebuds to actuallly feel^^ it has texture and reminds me a bit of rootbeer for grownups^^

Anndecks' Trippel boch!

That explains it..I am a huge root beer fan.

Anndecks' Trippel bock

bock beer as it is called can also have quite some nice texture and is strong enough to be called beer in my opinion^^


somehow certain consonants are confusing for enlish speakers... i have seen that confusion with the sound of "ch" and "ck"...


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my kids and wife loves root beer... with pizza a real dish at home^^

LOL! Root beer.

Yes, i have friends who say shimera as they do not know the Greeks made that word with the CH as a K sound to it

hmmm... i dunno if that writing of the word might actually be also usable...but i had this ch and ck discussion with swiss and austrian peeps too... well every language has it´s loopholes^^

I am drinking a frosty cold bottle of IBC Root Beer right now!

good health to ye! and down the hatch^^ for me it is just plain coke atm and not even coke but a cheapo variant^^

Okay Vik, the way I was spelling it was the sound he made to pronounce it, so it sounded weird to my ears as it should sound like Kymera.

i heard that sounding too...there are bavarians in germany that don´t say china but kina...there you are... we have these probs too..^^and if you are drinking a maß of beer then you could be in bavaria^^ and there you are then^^

Well, I was in Bad-Wurtemburg section in Neu-Ulm(no Umlauts on my system)

well that schwaben i am gueesing... but for me as an old prussian^^ i say... they´re all the same^^ lol... as for systems and keys not there... heck there is so many needs for a pound sign but i can´t figure out how to type it...

Viktor von Domm wrote:well that schwaben i am gueesing... but for me as an old prussian^^ i say... they´re all the same^^ lol... as for systems and keys not there... heck there is so many needs for a pound sign but i can´t figure out how to type it...

Shift key and 3 makes #

I will be moving my computer, so slight interruption. Then back to painting the troops.

maybe i should swith to english keybord then this might work...

ok move move move^^

Once done with the one platoon, i will be working on others, no worries, I am also contracted to paint another friend's new Necrons as well as older ones for his Halloween orange/black scheme. (work, school and paint contracts as well as my own minis, man I'm gonna be busy!)

who said you need dayly sleep?^^ it is so totally overrated... and eating... just makes the fingers oily and who wants that^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:who said you need dayly sleep?^^ it is so totally overrated... and eating... just makes the fingers oily and who wants that^^

Gotta avoid sloppy work right?>

ok that might acount for some sleep and some food...but only quite^^

Slave master Vik!

yeah well rivets and slavery... it is not that i would command thee to things i wouldn´t do^^

Everyone here can type umlaüts or any currency ¢ £ ¥ sysmbol, even if it isn't on your keyboard.
For windows Start-> Run -> Charmap

For Mac GFGI I dunno (go frakkin google it)

Awesome! Thanks dsteingass

I love the guys.. the coats are always cool!

You know I gots to support the LoER, so finally made an appearance here! Fashionably late, as always

Great stuff, Shaso! Especially those tanks! (are there some PM blogs floating around for those, btw? I've got some scratch build projects in mind and i need all the examples I can get!)

storag wrote:I love the guys.. the coats are always cool!

Thanks! I have been a history nut for most of my life and that centered on WW-I/WW-II as it was always on TV in one form or another leading me into it, either with the documentary series "The World at War" or "Combat" Rat Patrol" etc. I have had to dig and they have in the later years gotten translated films from Russia of the struggles back then. It was amazing seeing how resilient Russia was during the hardest of times and they bounced back and smashed the invaders, Swedes/Tetons/Mongols(earlier), French/and the Nazis. Very inspirational to see the films showing this all. I notice that Storag lives in what is now St. Petersberg/Leningrad/St. Petersberg, a major story of epic proportions in itself, besieged and then relief came. It gave me a sense of how cold it can get there, and the army fighting in Great coats hence my inspiration for my army, chilly cold planets with harsh environments added to the cold, and the need for Great coats and other gear.

My Khadrovians even managed in a campaign to smash several kinds of Space Marines as well as other forces. Eldar and Tyranids, and Orks.


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Rawson wrote:You know I gots to support the LoER, so finally made an appearance here! Fashionably late, as always

Great stuff, Shaso! Especially those tanks! (are there some PM blogs floating around for those, btw? I've got some scratch build projects in mind and i need all the examples I can get!)

First pictures of a kit I worked on were knocked out as I used Photobucket, which seems to lose it if you load too many pics in one day to it. But Vik latched on to it at page 1 and has been at it since the beginning. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326377.page

shasolenzabi wrote:First pictures of a kit I worked on were knocked out as I used Photobucket, which seems to lose it if you load too many pics in one day to it. But Vik latched on to it at page 1 and has been at it since the beginning. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326377.page

Wow! 76 pages. I'll have to come back to this on my next day off!

make that week off^^

LOL! Yeah! It can take some reading as Vik and others also had some bantering off topic as well at times!

Great thing that your intrest in history is so wide shas! But one thing I wanna warn you about the way russians tend to represent their history - it's too pumped up generally, too drammatized. View such films from russia with healthy critisism.

storag wrote:Great thing that your intrest in history is so wide shas! But one thing I wanna warn you about the way russians tend to represent their history - it's too pumped up generally, too drammatized. View such films from russia with healthy critisism.

Always good advice. Some of the footage was from the "Why we fight"? series by Frank-"It's a wonderful life" Capra. Very friendly tone pre Cold War. Of course during the late '40's to the 1980's Russia was vilified by our government to the latest of "The Evil Empire" only finding out as things surfaced that Your nation was just as afraid of American Nukes as we were of Your Nukes! Each government making the other out as vicious warmongers who would stoop to any level to get their way, but the Cold War showed more a cat and mouse approach to each other.

But credit where it is due they did beat the invaders out. That was guts, blood and courage, mixed with some anger.

Now that I am moved, I will soon be back in business with me minis, and soon pics and such of the revitalized Necrons!

see my comment at your tank thread

Answered that.

The mention of Necrons makes me spontaneously derail this thread (sorry d00d) with a question.

In one of the first Gaunt's Ghosts novels, they find an ancient STC machine that made Metal Men, of course the STC was perverted by chaos naturally, and when activated produced super-Chaos-ey Metal Men. I always wondered if those were Necrons and if fluff-wise Humans created the Necrons a-la BSG. Or am I just crazy?

i thought that necrons were an ancient race that lived looooong ago and got tempted to tinker with their bodies to become immortal... but had to give up on their flesh and became these unfeeling monsters as an ultimate price tag to their cravings...


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by the way... shaso made a story about that and maybe you should read that...:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/362704.page

OMG, Shas...that story is absoltely amazing! Having only hate.

yup ... have you read his orky story? the one of the five bruvvas? or the khardovian vets story? i think he is a very capable writer...

Awww garsh! you guys are making me blush!

see i mentioned pink in my thread just this moment^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:see i mentioned pink in my thread just this moment^^

LOL! Funny Vik. Dstein also should read the Khadrovian fluff

abso-shocking- lutley... why hasn´t he already???

Viktor von Domm wrote:abso-shocking- lutley... why hasn´t he already???

Our brother needs guidance Vik

totally, but i thougught i tossed him the stuff already...hmmm... you can only bring a horse to the water... drinking must be done by the horse themselves...

Sorry, I'm not following here, what water? Where?
And if you lead a riveted horse to water will he rust?

probably... but alas i have seen an unriveted horse. and on that sad horse was an even sader rider... and the name of the horse was black beuaty and the name of the rider was....who cars... unriveted horse...to the knockermen with ye ...stinking mare...

Poor Vik, it will be alright.

^^

tell me the name of the plastic miniatures and the metal heads producers, please.

The plastic parts are Wargames factory Sci-Fi Greatcoats, the heads are from West End games, now out of print, Vik was so lucky to have gotten them.

http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/alien-suns

doin' raincheck.

SHOCK TROOPS heavy weapons team has its cannon looks DANGEROUSLY close to GW Lascannon designs!!!

How does that look like a GW Lascannon?

Is a totally different concept, more power box with an emitter tube as opposed to GW lascannon looking like an actual cannon.

i think the minis have somepotential but the gun doesn´t do it for me...

Yea the HW box is pretty subpar at best

Great blog though

kenshin620 wrote:Yea the HW box is pretty subpar at best

Great blog though

Thanks! The HW box has been also nicknamed the Heavy Camera by some online.

lol.... heavy camera...very fitting

Looking at that picture it does seem as if the guy's going and now smile to the rioting kids on class picture day!

Yep, That is a war documentary team!

LOL, Heavy Camera, yeah, I can definately see that!

Now I wonder what other heavy equipment comes in that box.

shasolenzabi wrote:Now I wonder what other heavy equipment comes in that box.

Standard "Not IG heavy weapons"

Mortar, Heavy Machine gun (well its actually a dual minigun), and a missiles launcher