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Post by: Rogue Wolves
40k, Fantasy and Other Painting & Modelling Competition I - http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/403045.page  basic rules: -Models can be based in an setting or universe, as long as they are wargaming miniatures. -Models should be of 2 or more figures interacting in some way (can be on a removible base) -This competition is open to all members of DakkaDakka (to sign up, state that you will enter either on this thread or in a pm to me) -Anything goes (conversion wise): Random parts, sculpting, scratch building etc. are all allowable; the more you do the better! -To participate, you must promise to update at least once a week on this blog, though not necessarily with pictures. WIP pictures are not part of this posting requirement, but as they are part of the final entry it can never hurt to post them up. I understand we are all busy this time of year, so a simple "I'm pretty busy, haven't had much time" will suffice for a few weeks.*I will not be checking to make sure that you post once EVERY WEEK, but if at the end I have no record of you posting, then your entry may be subject to investigation by the Inquisition and potential disqualification. ----DEADLINE IS Midnight VALENTINES DAY 2012 FINAL ENTRY REQUIREMENTS -Final entry must consist of one(1) WIP picture (pre-painting), and at least two(2) finished pictures. -Finished pictures must be taken against a white or semi-white sheet of paper, for uniform look. -Pictures should be posted to the Dakka gallery, and then PM me the link (for the voting thread). Finished pictures should also be posted here, though it does not have to be before the deadline. -Included with the final entry must be a few sentences of fluff containing background information on the characters or squad. After the deadline has passed, a 2 voting threads will be posted in the P&M Showcase forum, where the miniatures can be voted on by Dakka users. ENTRIES MUST HAVE LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO 10 MINIS PER ENTRY -BASES CAN BE NO BIGGER THAN A BASIC PAPER PLATE- LIST OF PARTICIPANTS Rogue Wolves Capitansolstice Zefig Sentinel Viktor Von Domm neil101 Flying Pooo Imperial Renegade theQuanz Mortalitas
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
I will start of this thread with 2 increadibly blurry wips of my first model, who is on a bike-- much better pics coming--
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Post by: Unluckyguardsman
Looks good so far, but you might want to use bold/underline/italics in your OP to delineate between points. Also, a link to the original thread might prove useful so people can see what went on last time. A fun graphic or something could also be nice to break up the text. Also say what you want Duel to mean in the context.
Good luck, I'll be following this with interest. As always, I am an open resource to you.
UG
*To those who don't know, I am the creator of the original thread, hence why I am offering advice*
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
thanks UG! i think im making up a graphic as we speak.. thank you!
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Post by: Zefig
Good to see this is started. You might want to emphasize the "Duel" aspect a bit more in the OP.
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Yep, also I dont know what Im doing but I AM SO IN!!!
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Post by: Zefig
Are dioramas with minis removable for gaming acceptable?
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
^yes
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
Anyone know a good warhammer head for this character? Im thinking of doing a diarama of him vs 1(or more) dragons
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Post by: Johnny-Crass
Look into the Marauder Calv as they have those heads
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Johnny-Crass wrote:Look into the Marauder Calv as they have those heads 
Yep!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
thanks
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Post by: Sentinel
Count me in! I have a rules suggestion though.
Clarify base size. I'd say 60mm: not too big, not too small. Bases keep the entries looking clean and uniform.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
a base sized 60mm for both minis together or each a diameter of 60mm?
and...
count me in on this voyage! now i have to get some stimulation for inspiration...boldly go where now viktor has gone before...
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Post by: neil101
@Rogue , wow this excellent idea mate, I love that your going to make the skyrimm guy vs a Dragon... so excited to see it complete. lots of great head choices out there too ! I must resist starting another project ... This would give me the perfect opportunity to do a fantasy dio i have been planning for an age ...
@ Vik , so star trek themed dio then
okay resitance is futile..  count me in too Rogue
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
by all means nooooooooooo^^
no, i will either go a new route and do something WHFB or the ever lovley 40k way... Automatically Appended Next Post: also... cool you joined!
any thoughts already about your entry?
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Post by: neil101
at the moment , I am thinking three things ...
Classic old school D&D style fantasy conan maids etc..
VIKINGS or you could say Norse men
and A pretty cool WFB idea , that just sprang to mind
would love to do all three actually the vikings one would the easist i think though , with the wfb being rather tricksy ;-)
..or maybe Napoleonic ..?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
tough choice... but it looks as if a certain skyrim virus has cought you too^^
i think the viking setting is nice but a true conan theme i think would be great for you as i think the artful aproach is right up your alley!
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Post by: neil101
maybe i should try and combine all those elemants together , now that would be quite challenging. :-/ Automatically Appended Next Post: Quite excited about doing a non 40k dio actually .
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
have mused that too... would be a new perspective.... i have to really sit for that competition and think things through.... also a nice visit to the bitzbox is a good start too^^
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Post by: Flying Pooo
I think I'm in. I'll start planning something immediately. I have gotten rather lazy lately.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
now we cant have that, can´t we?^^
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Viktor von Domm wrote:now we cant have that, can´t we?^^ Well if we can't have that I'll get started right away! Here is a mini I threw together on a whim a while ago. Now I will probably get a chance to actually use him. I have the duel planned out already... This marine standing over a decapitated Bloodletter with a chaos warhound bearing down on him. The duel will be entitled "Fetch".
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Post by: Sentinel
I meant a 60mm base for both models. It's a duel, not an showdown between titans... No offense Pooo.....
But it's not my call anyway, just a suggestion. I can't wait to see what other people start planning! Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, wait, I see it says "Can be on a removable base". Well, my entry just got that much bigger.....
Maybe a 40mm base per model then, like the last comp?
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Post by: pirateofmayhem
I followed the previous competition because of Zefig, who also got me into 40k (hats off there budday). I know this seems to be an individual thing, however, I just got my wife into 40k, and being one who has always done arts & crafts, she is quite skilled at painting. I, on the other hand, suck at the moment, however I really like assembling, glueing, sanding, priming, etc. Would it be ok if we jointly entered?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
*shrugs* i think this qualifies as a household entry^^
at sentinel... he promises a warhound... i am substantial interested to see that^^
as for the amount of the entry piece... i think rogue wolves, we need you to clarify a bit more... i think for what i would like to see as a duel base at least a cd sized base is a must...i can´t picture the fighters up that close...
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Post by: Sentinel
Yeah, but the reason people put size restrictions on their competitions is because "bigger is better". The sheer size of an entry will help draw people in, regardless of painting or modelling skill.
Either way I'm fine with it, I guess I'm just looking for uniformity among entries overall. Like, to avoid having a little ninja showdown followed by this huge clash of titans over a hive city. As ridiculous of an example as that is
How bout this. I put a vote down for a size limit. You guys can decide what that limit will be. I just think that we need one.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
sentinel... i second all your ideas here... all is sound and i totally agree to make a suitable decission for a base size... rules are important to have the entries on the same level...also when this is set i can plan for real... before that somehow my imagination is a bit frozen so to speak...
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Viktor von Domm wrote:at sentinel... he promises a warhound... i am substantial interested to see that^^
HOLD THE PHONE!
Did you guys think I was promising a Warhound Titan?
sorry I can't deliver on that.
I meant this type of chaos Warhound!
I also can't imagine my entry going on something bigger than a 60mm base.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
LOOOOL.... now that makes muuuuuch more sense... lol... somehow some guys have instilled in me a craving to look for huge walking mechs...now i seem to expect those lurking at every corner/thread^^
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Good thing I cleared that up!
I wouldn't want all of you guys expecting a massive titan and getting a tiny and comparably insignificant warhound.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hah... insignificant... we wont underestimate you^^
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Well I'm not planning anything overly spectacular.
Maybe I should, Just to push myself as I have been rather lazy lately.
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Viktor von Domm wrote:LOOOOL.... now that makes muuuuuch more sense... lol... somehow some guys have instilled in me a craving to look for huge walking mechs...now i seem to expect those lurking at every corner/thread^^
Me too. Its weird!
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Post by: Zefig
I like the idea of using cd-sized bases. Enough space for a bit o' diorama but nothing super crazy.
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Post by: Capitansolstice
That seems right. Is it ok if I do epic scale minis (Chaos Macharius vs. Normal Macharius) And if not, Ill do a marine standing in front of a bunch of spore mines
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Post by: Unluckyguardsman
Glad to see this taking off! I just posted links here in both the old threads, hopefully traffic will start getting routed this way.
UG
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Thanks UG!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
thanks ug, and solstice, it says ANY model for a game system, if you can make an diarama that looks cool made with epic models i say go ahead
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Post by: Sentinel
Hahaha Pooo, that makes soooo much more sense now. Lol, I laughed so hard when you posted that warhound pic.
*facepalm* duh......
Ok, so here are my ideas for a diorama. I've got a gadjillion Tyranid rippers, so I think it'll be a marine doing some sort of a last stand....
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
Ok, count me in please! I think my entry will be tyranids VS IG in a last stand. Will narrow it down soon. (nothing bigger then 60mm.......Promise!)
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Post by: Sentinel
Btw, the original post says Valentine's day 2011. You might want to change it to 2012.....
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
D: thanks for the save, might i use the exuse that i am legaly blind?
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Post by: Sentinel
I suppose I can let you off.... This time.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
was that wink a pun in itself? lol
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hahahahahaha
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
Ok, her is the first part of my entry.
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Post by: Sentinel
Hmmm.... not a fan of the lime green.... I'm curious to see what you do with it.
Nice reposing though! Make sure you cut off the extra greenstuff; I see some sticking out at the waist.
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Sentinel wrote:Hmmm.... not a fan of the lime green.... I'm curious to see what you do with it.
Nice reposing though! Make sure you cut off the extra greenstuff; I see some sticking out at the waist.
aahhh! Me too
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oops!  modeling 101!! Thanks!
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For some reason I think this thread has been forgot about.
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Post by: Sentinel
Why? Because nobody had posted here in *gasp* six hours!? Lol....
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Exactly! Im on xmas breack, so everyone else should be! LOL
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
i am, and ive been working.. im more like a big brother right now watching over you all!
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Post by: theQuanz
Could it be two models working together on the same team on a base?
I don't have any two things that I want fighting right now! hahaha
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
of course.. as long as there are more than 2 models
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Is 5 models ok? Is there a size I cant go over?
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Post by: Unluckyguardsman
Rogue Wolves wrote:i am, and ive been working.. im more like a big brother right now watching over you all!
And I am the mothership orbiting above, controlling everyone's actions!
But on a more serious note, I may be making an entry here. Not official yet, but I will see how the time I have off moves me.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
yeah come join the fun UG... this will be fun!
as for a the thread going into fade to grey... fat chance^^ i have sorted my bitz boxes... godd... a most needed sorting i tell ye... and now that everything is back to order i started to sieve through and came up with some already built minis i now want to cobble into a cool dio... i will keep you all on the current built...
just to be on the safe side... what is the maximum of this competition on the bodycount? do we have limitatins towards the upper side of the range? i think if all things develop the way they are now it could very well be about 8- 10 mins on a fitting base... would that be too much?... i am afraid it will be about orks and IG facing each other and i think any less wouldn´t currently make little sense for me...
decisions?
vik
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
hey if you want to make 4 ig vs 1000 orks (been playing a gifted l4d2) so be it.. there are not a limit to the number of people (even though a duel is 2)
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Post by: theQuanz
I am in.
Going to be entering a minor little Khador force - Possibly have them facing off against a Retribution Mymidon or something.
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Post by: Sentinel
Yes. Rogue Wolves, please execute your role as arbiter of justice in this thread and tell us max base size and max miniature count. (Do rippers each count as 1 body? Even though they're so small? I want to use a bunch....) EDIT:. Wow, triple ninja'd. So no max? Holy moly, that means I can enter a table sized diorama..... Army vs. army. No, that's ridiculous. I still think there should be some sort of limit, even if the limit is high. A limit should exist, as a matter of principle.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
the thing i want to mak is kinda like an ambush...so it makes little sense to have too small numbers... if i would do a 1:1 between ork and IG i think it would be too obviously a masacre... at sentinel i hope the rippers count as terrain^^ and that you can add millions^^ and yep i think army against army... that ius the stuff frustrations are built from... so an upper limit should be there... at quantz... now this sounds cool already!
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Post by: theQuanz
I need to work on my photography...that's definitely costing me in these competitions! haha
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Post by: Sentinel
Hahaha, if rippers counted as terrain, then I would only have one model on the base! Hardly a duel then.... EDIT: Unless someone is willing to donate a pair of marine legs? I only have one....
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i could but for that the postage would be astronomicaly compared to the effect...
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
so entry must be < 10 models total? hows that
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Sounds good. So do rippers count as 1 model each? They're so tiny....
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
10 models is good I think. I am using 5 so im safe, but Sentinel is way over ten models with his army vs army! LOL Could not help my self Sentinel! LOL
Can the base be the size of a paper plate?
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Um.. I'm not doing army v army.....
It was... an example.... Lol...
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
No really!............ man you people from bloomsburg are slow on the uptake! lol
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
rippers dont count as a model because they are sooo tiny, and idc how big your base is
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Post by: Sentinel
Sweetness
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
ok...ten or less models for enty...check... and will you sort out the hassle for the base size now... after all i will make a custommade one and this needs preperation...
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
what hassle vik? all i know is that you base can be as large as a car if you wanted. im more interested in what is ON the base then how BIG it is
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Post by: Sentinel
No, there's a hassle. There should be a limit on base size, for the same reason that you had to create a limit on model count.
Because the person who puts tons of work into a CD sized diorama could be dwarfed by a table sized entry. Similarly sized entries means the voters can actually concentrate exclusively on painting and modelling talent.
Because what's ON the base can be more impressive looking simply by being bigger or on a larger scale, rather than being well painted or modeled.
My two cents, anyway. I think I'm backed on this by a few participants. Or maybe I'm just a strict legalistic rigid rules nazi. I dunno.
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Post by: Unluckyguardsman
I completely agree with Sentinel. Unless you want to add a "terrain and basing" aspect to the competition, a base limitation is most definitely required. It keeps everything on a level setting so people can get the most out of their painting and modelling skills.
Your call, though.
Mothership out.
UG
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
LOL good choice of word Unlucky Gaurdsmen! I agree with sentinal. I would suggest the size of a Dixie Paper Dinner Plate. ore a little bit bigger. Have to have room for the ten models
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Post by: Sentinel
If we're talking circular base, I say 6" in diameter at most. Or final dimensions not exceeding 6x6x6". Otherwise we are leaving the realm of "duels" and entering "dioramas" or "battle-scenes."
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
what the hell is a dixie paper plate?? are we tallking about these once usable paper dishes`: is that what you mean...ok... this sound good... i think this might give plenty enoug room to create all the things one might want to add...tho i absolutly just wanted to have enough room to not have a too crowded space anyway^^ and i too second sentinels ideas... and i don´t think you are a rules nazi... not the least... if so in the slightest i would get my shotgun and settle the matter and back to the main course... this is my very first picture update of the competition... mind you... it doesn´t show you the setting... it doesn´t show you the complete roll call of the parties...heck it seriously doesn´t show you the complete roll call of even one party... but it shows you at least a generall direction where i want to go... hope that helped^^ vik
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
hmm i think you guys are right, no bigger than a paper plate, and still thats a massive base
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Post by: Sentinel
whew. You guys are gonna make me impulse buy more marine legs just for this project! Shame!
Dang, my head is swimming with ideas now.... I might need more than 30 rippers....
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
trust your impulses... ^^
yeah rippers and then some loose marine legs... sounds like a cool concept already!  munch munch munch^^
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Post by: Sentinel
Haha, actually, there would be marine torsos on those legs... trying to hold back the swarm...
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
Im lucky, I only have need for one pair of legs. They are fortunetly being used on my space marine in my duel!
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Post by: theQuanz
Yeah, so...take me out of this one I think.
I have been focused on assembling miniatures to play and thats really where my focus is right now is having stuff to play in the league with...and then painting just my retribution army :(
No dualing for this cat.
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Post by: Capitansolstice
but...but... we have a couple months!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
^that! also thanks for someone actually giving this thread a push... i have to make haste with a new update... less this competition is doomed... which i sincerely hope wont happen as i find this theme totally cool!
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Viktor von Domm wrote:^that! also thanks for someone actually giving this thread a push... i have to make haste with a new update... less this competition is doomed... which i sincerely hope wont happen as i find this theme totally cool!
I must update too!
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
I need do update as well!!!!! I havent touched my project since  ( Shame on me)
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Post by: theQuanz
We have until the end of Feb I get that, but in that time I want to complete my Retribution as much as possible for the points I get in the league. Since my photography skills are less than prime I don't want to spend time on something that isnt going to net a return
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Post by: Flying Pooo
I hope everyone has not forgotten about this (I almost did). I have started making the base for my duel. It still needs a few more bits to add interest, I was thinking chopped up Space Marine body parts and weapons, but I will first have to buy a warhound (not the titan kind  ) and see how I will place everything on the base. The marine is removable from the base. The main part of the base was made from a Pringles lid and I used a lager scale version of this; http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/412037.page for the texture and bark chips for the bigger rocks. Now, how is everyone else going?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i am still rethinking the theme of my entry...bit confused atm...
your base looks ace and that is only telling the half of it...!
is that your famous eggshell methode for basing? very good and the cork looks like a good choice too!
has your marine just beheaded a demon?
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
your entry looks nice so far, and no i havent forgoten ^only rethinking...
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Good to see everyone hasn't forgotten, we still have a month or so to finish our entries.
@Vik- Yes the base uses the eggshell basing method and the rocks are made from bark not cork! And yes that marine has just be headed a demon.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
ah!!! nice!
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Post by: Sentinel
Gah! I went on vacation and forgot all of my stuff for this entry!! Not to mention I've been without internet for two and a half weeks.....
Anyway, as soon as I get settled back into the routine of things I'll get started on the entry.
It's going to be a marine vs a dozen or so rippers. So I have some questions that I'm yet undecided on:
What chapter marine?
What hive fleet 'Nids?
What base? I'm leaning towards deserty-wasteland or city of death. I have the resources to do both scenes equally as visually interesting, so it would come to a matter of preference.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i designed a chapter of my own...the earth angels...they fight in deserty terrain...also i tried to make up a hivefleet...but the special killteam unit are these so called nidkillas:
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
i like the way they look, those horns are nice (tyranid?) and are they heretic or are they good boys?
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Those Marines are sweet Vik!
Are they going to be used in your duel?
I thought you were using IG.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
these are meant as an inspiration for sentinel...both are the good guys...and very much so...dark haired is called sly...and the fair haired one is called dolph...
and those minis are made from possessed torsos and legs and nid warrior carpace...
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Post by: Flying Pooo
They do look awesome, maybe I can make some neat Tyrannic War Veterans like that...
I actually have most of those bits...
STOP...Conversion time.
...Actually It might have to wait, its 12AM here, and I have to wake up at 8.
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Post by: Sentinel
Those are indeed nice. I like how the possessed torsos look like 'nid ribcages.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
yep...that was my intention...you can´t know it but afterwards i tried to hunt down this torso and leg combination...i wanted to make a squad like these...very hard work...and i let the project collect dust....as i not anymore come into haha possession of the needed bitz...
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Post by: Mortalitas
Sign me up please!! Automatically Appended Next Post: Heres abit of a draft that I have come up with.
I plan to make it a hive city that is overun by orks and has seen better days, with lots of rubble and general rubbish  and the remnaints of a Dark Angel strike force.
Red - 2 DA veterans
Black - A chaplain
Blue - Imperial Guardsmen maybe?
Dark Green - Ork Nob
Olive - 2 shoota boys
Lime green - Grots
So what do ya think?
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Post by: legonut101
Cool work Flying Poo!!! and you too Mortalitas!!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
sounds like a nice idea there mortalitas
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Post by: Flying Pooo
That is a sound plan Mortalitas. I would like to see where you go with this!
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Post by: Imperial Renegade
I would love to do my diorama, but..................................NO I WILL NOT GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL TRY MY BEST! To get it done.
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Post by: Flying Pooo
It's getting a little too close to the deadline, but I'm still making progress.
I still have to paint and base the marine, finish up the Warhound (which is about 80% painted atm) and then I have to add some detail to the foreground of the base.
Any Ideas as to what I might add to the foreground?
I was thinking a giant 8 pointed star or something.
Here it is (still WIP).
Now how is everyone else going?
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Post by: Capitansolstice
Im trying to figure out my color schemes currently!
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