There was a discussion on the Wargames Atlantic legion Facebook group today regarding the general accoutrements horses, and I'd like to copy my thoughts here.

Please note, the below are the personal thoughts of Max, the owner of McDougall designs, and are not meant as a statement by Mcdougall designs LLC. I am copying them here as they are relevant to this thread and hopefully informative.

Context: a discussion over what riders fit the horses, and a hobbyist stating he was unhappy with them because the riders from another manufacturer he had wouldn't fit without modification.

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Re: what do the horses fit?

With a little bit of work, anything.

I have been looking for solid replacement horses for a collection of old metal citadel cavalry models that I bought as part of an eBay lot.

First photo: just built horse, small gap.

2nd photo, same horse after shaving the saddle where the legs would be for about 5 minutes.

After a little greenstuff to disguise any remaining small gap, and proper adhesion with super glue, it will look fine.

Note: the proportions on these older citadel metals are rather large, so i guess in the aspect of scale these don't work.

My personal thoughts towards mixing models of different scales is "if it's looks recognisable at 3ft table distance, and doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, it's fine."

I acknowledge that your own mileage may indeed vary.

Alphaecho, I’m loving those kit bashes. Said it before but it’s really good seeing these plastics on the wild!

How have you found the stargrave/ frostgrave arm fits?

 Ragsta wrote:
Alphaecho, I’m loving those kit bashes. Said it before but it’s really good seeing these plastics on the wild!

How have you found the stargrave/ frostgrave arm fits?

Those particular weapon arms fit with no issues.

I've also used Stargrave arms on the Frostgracd Cultists with no issues.

Good to know about the horses. Would be nice to see it beside a GW horse.

I've got a stash of GW horses, but it's nice to know there are reasonable replacements.

Any ideas on the hand? Looks very powersuit/armourish 🤷‍♂️

The Starship Troopers book, and the Mongoose Game, had mech suits in them so may be that for the OoRah?

Spade grips and a bipod seem like a really weird combination. The only real-world gun I'm aware of which used that was the infantry version of the FIAT / Villar Perosa M1915 aircraft machine gun, which is a strange hybrid of LMG and SMG.

 Ragsta wrote:
The Starship Troopers book, and the Mongoose Game, had mech suits in them so may be that for the OoRah?

It does look like Rasczak's prosthetic from the movie.

Finalist poll in the name-the-bugs competition is up.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/bug-naming-finalists-vote-now?fbclid=IwAR3m2l78YSrTyL7Tix18_HrZqKN1n19Cd8ert5nEez_HgCgIRzhVMj9okUM

Are there really other options than Bugs Of Many Names?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Are there really other options than Bugs Of Many Names?

Logically, there is not.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Are there really other options than Bugs Of Many Names?

Bugs With No Name

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Are there really other options than Bugs Of Many Names?

Bugs With No Name

I don't think the kit will come with cowboy hats, cigarillos and six-shooters, although you can never be too sure with WGA

Powerarmored chicks?

Those arms are friggin' huge! Must have lots of augmentation, enough to tear MBTs in half.

So is her albow joint in the suit's shoulder joint, making her walk around in a scarecrow T-pose all day?

I was thinking severed at the shoulder and they were permanently installed in the armor.

Like XCom's MEC Troopers?

Bugs of Unusual Size

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Are there really other options than Bugs Of Many Names?

Nope, the only choice possible.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Like XCom's MEC Troopers?

Unfortunately she looks to still haver own arms LOL.

I'm not a fan of minis where it looks like the human body would need to be broken just to put the armor on. I get that some may not care, but unless it's narratively intended for some reason (i.e. arms are deliberately amputed / replaced with cybernetics etc.), it's hard to read it as anything but sloppy design. Otherwise, if we're supposed to imagine a healthy and intact human being inside, why choose to make that look physically impossible?

However, if the kit includes versions of the armor where the pilots are completely covered up (which is more realistic for combat purposes* anyway - why would you cover the arms and legs but deliberately expose the human chest?) then it's potentially not an issue for me, because if they're not revealed, the pilots might as well be aliens with different physiognomy, or the suits could be A. I. robots, remote piloted drones, etc.. At that point, the sale depends more on the rule of looking cool.

*This is assuming these are military suits, not power loaders or something.

I'm hoping that's like a cutaway type thing - with an optional(?) chunk of upper armour to cover her chest - and possibly her head as well.

 Vermonter wrote:
I'm not a fan of minis where it looks like the human body would need to be broken just to put the armor on. I get that some may not care, but unless it's narratively intended for some reason (i.e. arms are deliberately amputed / replaced with cybernetics etc.), it's hard to read it as anything but sloppy design. Otherwise, if we're supposed to imagine a healthy and intact human being inside, why choose to make that look physically impossible?

100% agreed.

I kind of hope they do change it up to make it the XCOM mec troop style where they're just wired into big robot limbs.

 Azazelx wrote:
I'm hoping that's like a cutaway type thing - with an optional(?) chunk of upper armour to cover her chest - and possibly her head as well.

It almost looks like the chest piece is up over her head, opened like a canopy. I doubt that she'd go into battle exposed like that.

My first thought was that they took Boxing Helena and put her in a Rock’em Sock’em Robot chassis to create a ….Boxing Helena.


No, Roboxing Helena!

Ooh Rah in Tooling!
We are pleased to announce that the Ooh Rah are heading into tooling now. Matthew is busy painting the 3D prints and the artwork for the box is in process so they are not too far off.

Below is an image of the frame layout (please note the parts may not be in perfect scale to one another in this image as it's designed to check which parts are there more than anything). Our Alien Bugs Name TBD will follow quickly behind these guys and Landsknecht Ogres will be around the same time (more on those next week)

Looks promising! I'd buy a sprue.

I'd rather have the Yee Haws

Arms r9 and r12 are very interesting. Remind me of those big guns the cabal use in destiny.

Likely another view of the power armored chick from earlier. Definately seems to have front plating from the looks of that belly

some painting of resin masters of the Landsnecht Ogres..... and what are those in the background? possibly more WGA stuff

WGA does have some Ancient Greeks planned for release I seem to recall.

They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

Love the Ogres. Thinking of preordering a 3 box deal when it opens. Wonder how many of each head you will get... as to whether you can do a whole unit with the same head type...

Those Ogres look great. With the addition of the Conquistadores set, you're halfway to an Empire army!

Hmmm. I think I would have preferred the swords to look more like zwiehanders but not bad.

I think they make for a great middle ground between zweihanders (landsknecht) and falchions / langmessers (ogre).

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I think they make for a great middle ground between zweihanders (landsknecht) and falchions / langmessers (ogre).

The more I look, the more they grow on me.

Yeah they're amazing minis all in all. Probably not for me but I know my daughter is going to need a box or three.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

Yeah, same thoughts here.

Yeeeah, I'm gonna need a box of these.

What they really need is a flamberge/Flammenschwert option for the leader.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

Why? They won the big poll so there is clearly demand there.

pgmason wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

Why? They won the big poll so there is clearly demand there.

I'm going to maintain that once all the historical options dropped off, historical players voted for this en masse just to troll

We'll see (well, we probably won't, but WGA will) when it comes to actual sales numbers.

John D Law wrote:
Likely another view of the power armored chick from earlier. Definately seems to have front plating from the looks of that belly

Yup. Can't tell for certain yet, but it looks like rather than having a separate helmet, the chest and head might both be covered up by that round "belly," in the egg-shaped manner of Antenocitis' Komodo battlesuits:



(Incidentally, it seems like the komodos are out-of-print again. Found some online chatter from two years ago saying "they're available again!", but the business link provided to fate-amenable-to-change.co.uk seems to have been retired.)




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Concerning the Landsknecht Ogres, unfortunately I don't need them and can't use them, but for what they are, they look great to me. This looks like one of the best designed plastic kits I've seen yet from Wargames Atlantic, and I can easily see these WGA's Empire Ogres presenting real competition for whatever GW's current, much more expensive equivalents are.

That is, unless they scale badly with GW Empire Ogres and armies. I know some won't care, and as I won't be getting these I don't have a dog in this race, but there's no denying that "small Ogres" relative to Warhammer fantasy would negatively impact sales to some gamers.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'd rather have the Yee Haws

I'll take the I'll Be Backs, myself.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

pgmason wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

Why? They won the big poll so there is clearly demand there.

I'm going to maintain that once all the historical options dropped off, historical players voted for this en masse just to troll

We'll see (well, we probably won't, but WGA will) when it comes to actual sales numbers.

We did, for the sole reason to piss, just you, off.

Well, I voted for them because I wanted them... but hopefully others actually do as well. otherwise we will never get the follow up female swiss guard ogres.

 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
WGA does have some Ancient Greeks planned for release I seem to recall.

They look like Macedonian phalangites to me. No hoplon shield, and the length of the weapon suggests a sarissa (pike) as opposed to a hoplite's spear.

The ogre resin masters do look good. However, I've all the ogres I need for Kings of War already.

Those Ogres look pretty good. My only complaint is they look like they are bare foot. I hope its a trick of the eyes on me or stylized boots, but I just cannot unsee giant toenails on them.

 kurhanik wrote:
Those Ogres look pretty good. My only complaint is they look like they are bare foot. I hope its a trick of the eyes on me or stylized boots, but I just cannot unsee giant toenails on them.

The original announcement said they would have boots, but I guess they decided against that.

From the origibal news info we got back in the day...

"First, we need to lock down a size and proportion for these boys as they are our first "monster" size. Having looked around yesterday we settled on the excellent Westfalia versions. I have really loved their design aesthetic and their half-men were an inspiration to me when starting Wargames Atlantic. If you haven't seen their work click on this image to go to their site:


So these fellows will come in around 45mm or so. This will be a full frame set aiming for three unique bodies on the frame with four frames in the box for 12 total figures.

The bodies will be armored cuirass with square-toed shoes/boots to emulate the classic Landsknecht look. Slashed style sleeve arms will hold a variety of historical/fantasy weapons including Zweihänders(very big two-handed swords), halberds, a matchlock style hand cannon, large, ornate dueling-style pistols. Spear or double-duty standard pole. We will experiment with some options. Maybe a dagger or mace too. Will need at least one larger shield and some buckler style for the swordsmen. Perhaps some segmented plate armor pieces for the legs. The iconic floppy hats and helmets will be included and Morion helmets as an extra option.

Since this is a Wargames Atlantic set, we can't leave it there though! Alternate arms with heavy autoguns and plasma weapons with shoulder pads on the arms, futuristic helmets and bare heads, and a variety of packs comm units holsters etc to equip the bodies will also be included to sci-fi up these fellows.

Officially this set will be part of our Death Fields AND the Classic Fantasy ranges. Within DF the backstory will be that these are a group of abducted Landsknecht - The Vain - who after some time on the circuit succumbed to flattery and allowed themselves to be genetically modified to be bigger and stronger. Their alien owner of course didn’t explain that they would also become grotesque. They now operate as guns for hire and are lent out to the highest bidders as a supplement to regular teams on the Death Fields circuit.

For fantasy they are also mercenaries fighting for and against the High Queen - a band of brothers united in their love of fashion and fighting.

We hope you like these ideas for this set. We hope also that we can fit all the ideas we keep coming up with onto the frame! Let us know what you think below!

and here is the digitl image they showed in the past.

Maybe there's boots. The feet look like they would have to be separate on the sprue.

Worst case scenario; greenstuff square shoes aren't too difficult to do.

 Vermonter wrote:

John D Law wrote:
Likely another view of the power armored chick from earlier. Definately seems to have front plating from the looks of that belly

Yup. Can't tell for certain yet, but it looks like rather than having a separate helmet, the chest and head might both be covered up by that round "belly," in the egg-shaped manner of Antenocitis' Komodo battlesuits:



(Incidentally, it seems like the komodos are out-of-print again. Found some online chatter from two years ago saying "they're available again!", but the business link provided to fate-amenable-to-change.co.uk seems to have been retired.)




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Concerning the Landsknecht Ogres, unfortunately I don't need them and can't use them, but for what they are, they look great to me. This looks like one of the best designed plastic kits I've seen yet from Wargames Atlantic, and I can easily see these WGA's Empire Ogres presenting real competition for whatever GW's current, much more expensive equivalents are.

That is, unless they scale badly with GW Empire Ogres and armies. I know some won't care, and as I won't be getting these I don't have a dog in this race, but there's no denying that "small Ogres" relative to Warhammer fantasy would negatively impact sales to some gamers.

Antenociti's Workshop closed permanently earlier in the year (2022). Heresy Miniatures picked up some of the FatC line, and ran a kickstarter to bring the Komodo suits back into production.

Still on pre-order, but here's the link:

https://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_130

If you wait until the winter, that £16 will be worth about ten cents...

Those ogres look great. I have some westfalia ogres, and they are fantastic, perfect size too, so good choice IMO. Anybody know how many ogres come per box? I think I need a unit in my empire army.

The mech suit looks good when the pilot is not visible.


Edit: Saw it now, 12 ogres per box! That is hefty.

Finally getting around to assembling some of the sprues I bought. Will do mini blog reviews later, but here's a trio of Hobbits.
Neat figures but infuriating if you want to do adventurers and with something other than pole arms or bows.

Right to Left.
-Stock Figure with the shortest pole arm on the sprue.
-Mostly stock figure. Slight mod of bow arm to lower angle
-Hero figure with WGA orc blade. Right arm is pole arm left, bow hand and shield from conquistadores weapon sprue

Oh, I do like those Ogres....

 Eilif wrote:

Neat figures but infuriating if you want to do adventurers and with something other than pole arms or bows.

There is a sling and a knife too but yeah, it would be nice to have some more variety of hand weapons there.

I didn't like the ogres as a concept, but the sculpts look amazing. I just hope they actually translate well to plastic.

 Eilif wrote:
Finally getting around to assembling some of the sprues I bought. Will do mini blog reviews later, but here's a trio of Hobbits.
Neat figures but infuriating if you want to do adventurers and with something other than pole arms or bows.

Yep as individual adventurers not particularly good as rank and file army troopers they are the best on the market in my opinion however and I need those Ogres!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

yeah, especially when there were better and more logical choices in the poll.

I mean...how many boxes of these will they sell, and need to sell to make a profit? Much less break even.

A mold is anywhere from 10 to 50K these days right?

Plus the actual order, plus boxes, and labor.

Sell them at stores for 35 dollars, meaning they are being sold to stores for 21.

So 476 to make it back to just 10K. Is there really a big enough market to do so? Much less the actual numbers which would be higher.

When I and many many more people would have bought several boxes of Plains War cavalry/Tribal Peoples or robots or moderns.

I guess they know what they are doing.

I might buy some to use a base for servitor ogryn fodder for my darkmech.

I'm interested in maybe a 3rd kit for Les Grognards, some sort of "cavalry" maybe...

Racerguy180 wrote:
I might buy some to use a base for servitor ogryn fodder for my darkmech.

I'm interested in maybe a 3rd kit for Les Grognards, some sort of "cavalry" maybe...

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

While "playing the classics" - Ogres with clubs, elves with bows, dwarves with axes - is usually a safe bet, sometimes a risk can create a market no one ever knew existed.

I mean was anyone screaming for sky dwarves with magical zeppelins and power armor hanging from a balloon?

Dunno if I'll buy the Landshrek Ogres but I for one am happy they exist.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
While "playing the classics" - Ogres with clubs, elves with bows, dwarves with axes - is usually a safe bet, sometimes a risk can create a market no one ever knew existed.

I mean was anyone screaming for sky dwarves with magical zeppelins and power armor hanging from a balloon?

Dunno if I'll buy the Landshrek Ogres but I for one am happy they exist.

Well I was asking for Squats, got them in AOS and then was gak on for 40k...

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

 Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

Only what was originally said "So these fellows will come in around 45mm or so. This will be a full frame set aiming for three unique bodies on the frame with four frames in the box for 12 total figures."

But that is an old quote, so not sure if the final product will still reflect that.

 Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

There are affordable options for generic ogres?

I didn't see a use when they where announced, but now I really want to build an IG auxiliary regiment with those

General Hobbs wrote:


There are affordable options for generic ogres?

Reaper Bones?

https://www.reapermini.com/search/ogre

$5-$7 a pop.

D&D might also have cheap ones.


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Racerguy180 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
While "playing the classics" - Ogres with clubs, elves with bows, dwarves with axes - is usually a safe bet, sometimes a risk can create a market no one ever knew existed.

I mean was anyone screaming for sky dwarves with magical zeppelins and power armor hanging from a balloon?

Dunno if I'll buy the Landshrek Ogres but I for one am happy they exist.

Well I was asking for Squats, got them in AOS and then was gak on for 40k...

I know!

If I'm ever blessed with an abundance of time and money maybe I'll do a count as Tau army using the sky dwarves.

General Hobbs wrote:

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

So much this! I want normal ogres = huge brutes armed with clubs/hammers/axes. If they need some clothing better than some furs than give them some medieval peasants like ones.

There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

Ettins heads would be a really fun option to have.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

So much this! I want normal ogres = huge brutes armed with clubs/hammers/axes. If they need some clothing better than some furs than give them some medieval peasants like ones.

Isn't that basically just the D&D image of ogres though? Classic literary / folklore ogres often had a fairly 'noble' lifestyle (living is castles with vast wealth) and were illustrated in early-modern middle to upper class clothing. Gustav Dore's classic illustration of Puss in Boots, for example, has the ogre dressed in a coat with puffed and slashed sleeves just like the ones in the WA sculpts.

Well that IS interesting!

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

So much this! I want normal ogres = huge brutes armed with clubs/hammers/axes. If they need some clothing better than some furs than give them some medieval peasants like ones.

Isn't that basically just the D&D image of ogres though? Classic literary / folklore ogres often had a fairly 'noble' lifestyle (living is castles with vast wealth) and were illustrated in early-modern middle to upper class clothing. Gustav Dore's classic illustration of Puss in Boots, for example, has the ogre dressed in a coat with puffed and slashed sleeves just like the ones in the WA sculpts.

It is my image (I do not play D&D) of Ogres I want to see. Huge, dumb, human like brutes, looking and armed like described above. Basically fantasy version of GW Ogryns. I do not want them to cosplay as conquistadors/mongols/lancknechts/whatever. See the Northstar metal ones below. I would really like to have similar but in HIPS.

Those metal ogres look terrible. And they are dressed in some specific period costume every bit as offputting as Landsknecht or Mongol ogres. So, I don’t get what you are trying to say.


The Reaper ogres are better sculpted, wearing more generic primitive clothing, and have faces that were not sculpted ironically. They’re waaaayyyy more generic than your jester-clothes Fraggle-eater ogres.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Those metal ogres look terrible. And they are dressed in some specific period costume every bit as offputting as Landsknecht or Mongol ogres. So, I don’t get what you are trying to say.


The Reaper ogres are better sculpted, wearing more generic primitive clothing, and have faces that were not sculpted ironically. They’re waaaayyyy more generic than your jester-clothes Fraggle-eater ogres.

I did not say I want identical but similar. I also said above that I want them either in some furs etc. = very primitive or in some medieval peasant like clothing.

General Hobbs wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

There are affordable options for generic ogres?

Mantic Ogres are what I was thinking of. Even moreso when you consider the army deals and the periodic sales on them.

I do see why folks would want the Landschekt ogres to be more generic though. Especially since as a hard plastic kit they'll be more flexible in use than the Mantic figures.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

Those are cool! I had missed that announcement. They would be an easyaddition to my KoW Varangur/Chaos army, but I prefer the 6 Khador Warjacks I'm currently running as trolls.

They really could be 3 toed ogres also.

Mantic is going to bring new plastic Ogres soon, so having a less generic fantasy plastic Ogres there the better option as having to many boxes with similar setting don't help anyone

I really like Landsknecht Ogres. Finally!

Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

Reaper ones are not hard plastic unless something changed?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

Reaper ones are not hard plastic unless something changed?

I was under the impression (and could be wrong) that Reaper remade their bendy bones ogres as multipart faux-hips bones-black style kits in the "dungeon dweller" line

I've got a couple of Bones Black figures and IIRC, they are stiffer then the white stuff, but definitely still PVC.

They're over a year old though, so things might have changed.

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

Plus GW and Mantic old ones!


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 Eilif wrote:
I've got a couple of Bones Black figures and IIRC, they are stiffer then the white stuff, but definitely still PVC.

They're over a year old though, so things might have changed.

Bones Black/USA is still the latest and greatest as far as I know. It's good stuff.

I wonder when they'll start shipping the SpaceNam boxes in the EU. I hope soon as I'm really looking forward to the models.

I know not everyone loves the big zippers on the cannon fodder... But Slaanesh does! The deamonette heads and arms are a perfect match size-wise for the cannon fodder 2 girls bodies.

and the conquistador legs match the GW elves pretty good too. I had a spare torso and some bits... so conquistador bottom elves... make the rockin' world go round.

Yeah... boring holiday on my own today...

Both conversions look good, although I like the Slaaneshi penal legion trooper best. Looks like the regimental chaplain and commissar were sleeping on the job to let someone THAT chaos-tainted remain in the unit. Should've BLAMMED her before she transformed.

Ah yes the reasonably dressed Daemonette.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ah yes the reasonably dressed Daemonette.

Some factory worker's fantasy.

Werkrobotwerk wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ah yes the reasonably dressed Daemonette.

Some factory worker's fantasy.

Slaanesh aims to please (lure), no matter who they may be.

I want one with glasses and a sweater

Velma is a daemon prince of Slaanesh anyway, so...

Jinkys

Smokestack wrote:Love the Ogres. Thinking of preordering a 3 box deal when it opens. Wonder how many of each head you will get... as to whether you can do a whole unit with the same head type...

latest information is 9-12. i'd bet on 12, if I was a betting man.

Eilif wrote:Those Ogres look great. With the addition of the Conquistadores set, you're halfway to an Empire army!

*creates draft bundle deals to go live when pre-orders do*

KidCthulhu wrote:Yeeeah, I'm gonna need a box of these.

What they really need is a flamberge/Flammenschwert option for the leader.

Can i interest you in a bundle deal with this chap?

https://mcdougalldesigns3d.com/products/peculiar-companions-germanic-empire-ogre-captain-28mm?_pos=1&_psq=ogre+captain&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

See above.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

I do like those a lot, though the scaly skin and calcified growth-looking things really make them much more LotR-movie trolls to me more than Ogres. I'd love to see "proper" generic ogres as well.

Xenos Rampant is a forthcoming large skirmish minis game from Osprey Publishing. The yet unnamed WGS bugs should be useful here. "On the bounce, trooper!"

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

Been over a year since that bit of news. Has there been no further word on that kit?

Last two WGF hobbits finished from the sprue I bought from McDougall. With allot of fiddly cutting, converting and gluing of hands and weapons (check out the axe) and the addition of eccentric minis bits, I've managed to build a mix of adventureres from the sprue of pole arms and archers.

I don't think I'd recommend this sprue for building hand weapon adventurers unless you already have extra bits on hand. If you have to order conversion bits there are cheap metal halflings you can buy instead. However, my bits box is deep so I've now got 5 charming Hobbits to add to my random fantasy skirmish collection. Not bad for 5 bucks.

This weeks Wargames Atlantic Facebook poll is which female sets you would like to see. Or rather which of their existing sets you would like to see a female version of. Like Frostgraves “2” series.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WargamesAtlanticLegion/permalink/1435774446901702/

Female Landshreck Ogres, duh.

Female halflings finally!

Female female cannon fodder!

The answer is CLEARLY dude bugs. They’ll look like bodybuilders that stuffed a basketball in their shorts and have cute little mandibles.

Or if I’m being serious… the Landshreck Ogre Women actually. The dudes are tempting but provided they avoid the meme of monstrous humanoids being either just the males in bad drag or strippers I wouldn’t be able to resist doing a mixed gender mercenary company.

My Vote went to Landsknecht ogres, Halflings and Conquistadors... and Dark Age Irish.

Ogres and Halflings being fantasy I think females have a place as female gamers are a thing... Conquistadors and Dark Age Irish would complement the frostgrave sets. So while maybe not true historical counterparts to the original sets, I think would sell well and be very useful.

Could you ask if there will be a non FB vote too?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Could you ask if there will be a non FB vote too?

This is just the Friday poll. They have one every Friday. I think this is more a feedback thing that Hudson uses to see what he should start planning more so than an actual "we will create one of these" things. So its not really a vote like the votes hosted on the Wargames Atlantic news and articles section.

I take these as more a "would you be interested in...?" kind of thing. He asked what people would be interested in seeing for a Friday poll? I messaged him suggesting this poll. We will see if it actually leads to a real vote or anything. Seems like Cannon Fodder 2 is selling pretty well though.

Female Bulldogs. Would like to add more female options for my Mordian force outside Vicky Lamb

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Female Bulldogs. Would like to add more female options for my Mordian force outside Vicky Lamb

So far it looks like of 954 votes

WW2 Partisans 21%
Bulldogs 14%
Grognards 10%
Haflings 9%
Dark Age Irish 7%
Ooh rah 6%
Raumjager 5%
Einharjer 4%
Ogres 3%
Conquistadors, Something Napoleanic and Something WW1, or "something else" got 2%
Boxers, Skeletons and Lizardmen 1%

Not suprised by WW2 Partisans, though we're already supposed to be getting those, I'm pretty sure.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Not suprised by WW2 Partisans, though we're already supposed to be getting those, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah I thought they were on the release schedule at one point. But I am not sure.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

Oh wow. Generic fantasy trolls was my contribution to the list of projects to vote on, and it did not make the top ten.

 Smokestack wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Not suprised by WW2 Partisans, though we're already supposed to be getting those, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah I thought they were on the release schedule at one point. But I am not sure.

Well not like you can check, given the Release Schedule is currently down for revision.

Friday newsletter has a peek at Landsknecht Ogre sci-fi weapons

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Friday newsletter has a peek at Landsknecht Ogre sci-fi weapons

Interesting to see arms without the flouncy shirts. Would look wierd I think though to have flouncy pants and regular sleeves though, right?

Still, definitely looking forward to these. I've decided I need a mercenary Ogre regiment.

How about fancy pants plus berets?

 Smokestack wrote:

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Female Bulldogs. Would like to add more female options for my Mordian force outside Vicky Lamb

So far it looks like of 954 votes

WW2 Partisans 21%
Bulldogs 14%
Grognards 10%
Haflings 9%
Dark Age Irish 7%
Ooh rah 6%
Raumjager 5%
Einharjer 4%
Ogres 3%
Conquistadors, Something Napoleanic and Something WW1, or "something else" got 2%
Boxers, Skeletons and Lizardmen 1%

The Les Grognards Command & Heavy Weapons set has female heads, admittedly only 1 of each type per sprue, but that is a set I don't think needs a separate female box, since the curaiss is unisex. Have not built any of the Raumjager I've bought, but IIRC, there are female heads in there. Bulldogs can use a female set as the uniform tunic is not unisex.

Dark Age Irish are a good choice; while I don't know enough about the historical period to say, the mythology of that culture has a number of female warriors and a warrior goddess or two.

 Smokestack wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Could you ask if there will be a non FB vote too?

This is just the Friday poll. They have one every Friday. I think this is more a feedback thing that Hudson uses to see what he should start planning more so than an actual "we will create one of these" things. So its not really a vote like the votes hosted on the Wargames Atlantic news and articles section.

I take these as more a "would you be interested in...?" kind of thing. He asked what people would be interested in seeing for a Friday poll? I messaged him suggesting this poll. We will see if it actually leads to a real vote or anything. Seems like Cannon Fodder 2 is selling pretty well though.

Ok, thanks

 Eilif wrote:
Interesting to see arms without the flouncy shirts. Would look wierd I think though to have flouncy pants and regular sleeves though, right?

Still, definitely looking forward to these. I've decided I need a mercenary Ogre regiment.

No, it would not. Certain patterns of landskneckt did not have poofy sleeves. and fit tighter to the arms.

Now I want female Grogands in dresses

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Now I want female Grogands in dresses

An army of Madame LaFarge's...with lasguns and rotten apples!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
How about fancy pants plus berets?

Might be a workable look.

No matter though. I want full on flashy swiss guard fantasy Ogre mercenaries, so there's not much on the Sci Fi side for me except possibly as big guns for Orks.

Rogue Trader Ogryn bodyguards seem like a natural use. Sci-Fi up some Conquistadors, add ogres, cannon fodder for crew….seems pretty easy.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Now I want female Grogands in dresses

So, like a cantiniere?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Rogue Trader Ogryn bodyguards seem like a natural use. Sci-Fi up some Conquistadors, add ogres, cannon fodder for crew….seems pretty easy.

That totally works...I was looking @ the conquistadors kit the other day so, I'm like most of the way to jumping on this idea.

Racerguy180 wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Rogue Trader Ogryn bodyguards seem like a natural use. Sci-Fi up some Conquistadors, add ogres, cannon fodder for crew….seems pretty easy.

That totally works...I was looking @ the conquistadors kit the other day so, I'm like most of the way to jumping on this idea.

What about a sprue bundle when the ogres cone out then?

Do the Peculiar Companions Ogres have separate heads? If so, that might be a good bundle deal, or if you could offer packs of just the Ogre heads to modify WA or Mantic Ogres.

A couple years back I did buy a bunch of GW ogre bulls parts to modify Reaper Bones Ogres. the heads and hands/weapons really went a long way to make the bones ogres more ... varied.

 Smokestack wrote:

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Female Bulldogs. Would like to add more female options for my Mordian force outside Vicky Lamb

So far it looks like of 954 votes

WW2 Partisans 21%
Bulldogs 14%
Grognards 10%
Haflings 9%
Dark Age Irish 7%
Ooh rah 6%
Raumjager 5%
Einharjer 4%
Ogres 3%
Conquistadors, Something Napoleanic and Something WW1, or "something else" got 2%
Boxers, Skeletons and Lizardmen 1%

I can go for those top 3

 Dolnikan wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Now I want female Grogands in dresses

So, like a cantiniere?

Yeah something like that or vivandières in appearance but actually fighting.



Basically in the Napoleonic Wars and US Civil War there were women who provided food, laundry etc and were dressed in feminized versions of the soldiers' uniforms. Visually it would be pretty different and would fit that nice window of "I never knew this existed but now I want it".

 Smokestack wrote:
Do the Peculiar Companions Ogres have separate heads? If so, that might be a good bundle deal, or if you could offer packs of just the Ogre heads to modify WA or Mantic Ogres.

A couple years back I did buy a bunch of GW ogre bulls parts to modify Reaper Bones Ogres. the heads and hands/weapons really went a long way to make the bones ogres more ... varied.

They do not. Separate arms though.

Wargames Atlantic has posted a painted example of the Ooh Rah, with Matthew Leahy painting.

Matthew Leahy has delivered the first shot of a painted Ooh Rah figure. This set is currently in tooling and Matthew is painting the 3D prints for the box cover. Here's the paint test on the first guy. These should be up for pre-order in the not too distant future as tooling gets to a T1.

These will be in the McDougall designs store for preorder at $30 per box as soon as I am allowed to put them up.

Hm. That's a really competent sculpt, sharp and sensible, but not very... exciting.

The upper thigh straps needed to be down by about 2 widths of the strap. Just looks sooooo bad.

I was hoping the Space Nam guys would not be so overmuscled that I could use the Ooh Rah head and arms on them, but it looks like that is not the case.

And no way to convert the legs. Grrrrrr


He also looks fat...the bottom armor plate looks like it is protruding. Hope its just the angle.

I like that they are almost exactly halfway between Colonial Marines and Mobile Infantry (movie version).

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Have not built any of the Raumjager I've bought, but IIRC, there are female heads in there. Bulldogs can use a female set as the uniform tunic is not unisex.

I meant to reply to this much earlier; yes, there is a female head on the standard sprue. The Raumjaeger armor is pretty unisex.

Raumjager could really use a redo still - they're the oldest kit in the Death Fields range and it shows, from the tiny sprue to the somewhat stiff poses to the fact they look overall a bit too wide and fat.

 Orlanth wrote:
I like that they are almost exactly halfway between Colonial Marines and Mobile Infantry (movie version).

Yeah, I thought they threaded the needle on this one.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That's a really competent sculpt...

It's adequate considering the competition, but I think it has a lot of rather obvious technical issues. The goofy thigh straps may be a matter of taste, but the shoulder straps have the same weird flaw as the bulldogs' ones where they bend in a completely unnatural way, as though they had a horizontal strap pulling them towards the center of the chest.
I also have serious issues with the gun. It looks neither functional nor stylish. All they had to do was take any modern assault rifle and make it extremely chunky, but instead they chose this weird rectangular block with a silly hand-guard.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That's a really competent sculpt...

It's adequate considering the competition, but I think it has a lot of rather obvious technical issues. The goofy thigh straps may be a matter of taste, but the shoulder straps have the same weird flaw as the bulldogs' ones where they bend in a completely unnatural way, as though they had a horizontal strap pulling them towards the center of the chest.
I also have serious issues with the gun. It looks neither functional nor stylish. All they had to do was take any modern assault rifle and make it extremely chunky, but instead they chose this weird rectangular block with a silly hand-guard.

The gun is supposed to echo the various 90s sci-fi blocky guns, like in the Aliens or Starship Troopers

I like em. Get me a box or two to shoot aliens with.

Between the "big zippers" and "weird straps" talk, I kind of want WA to embrace it and just release some fetish wear minis. I think that would make a good second wave Ogre box... "Rocky Horror cosplay Ogres"

Lol, crossdressing Ogres in fishnet stockings, high heels, mini skirts, halter tops and collagen lips. Ogre hooker brigade.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Lol, crossdressing Ogres in fishnet stockings, high heels, mini skirts, halter tops and collagen lips. Ogre hooker brigade.

So 110th st in brooklyn???

Guys, this may not be my place, however should we not return to on topic discussion?

What sprue kits would you like to see made with the ooh 'rah?

You mean like 3D-printed add-ons for the Ooh 'Rah?

 KidCthulhu wrote:
You mean like 3D-printed add-ons for the Ooh 'Rah?

That's an option.

I've started putting up packs of sprues tailored towards specific conversions for sci Fi figures, or as potential diorama stuff.

For example, someone suggested two a sci Fi sampler pack of several different sci Fi kits wargames Atlantic makes.

Perhaps a set of Oo-Rah and some CF crew/colonists?

I really love it. Just got my bulldogs, and with them I can finally do plastic Mordian Iron Guard

General Hobbs wrote:

The upper thigh straps needed to be down by about 2 widths of the strap. Just looks sooooo bad.

Can you elaborate? Nearly every (if not all) combat harness I'm familiar with has thigh straps right at the crotch/hip so as to not hinder movement.
Or do you mean it needs to look more like video games or something?

Yeah, the thigh straps look fine to me. I don't know why people (person?) keeps on going on and on about them.

 Smokestack wrote:
Between the "big zippers" and "weird straps" talk, I kind of want WA to embrace it and just release some fetish wear minis.

There's even a gap in the market for plastic death-cult assassins (and maybe other assassins, alternative chaos or genestealer cultists, etc.)

 judgedoug wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

The upper thigh straps needed to be down by about 2 widths of the strap. Just looks sooooo bad.

Can you elaborate? Nearly every (if not all) combat harness I'm familiar with has thigh straps right at the crotch/hip so as to not hinder movement.
Or do you mean it needs to look more like video games or something?

I cannot elaborate for various reasons but all of the guys I used to work with wore theirs lower. I now currently live near a base and have friends on there and when I go visit them that is what I see. Is what it is.. In the pic below the guys have 2 straps, one high and one low, and the low is what I normally saw.

The point though isn't what is realistic IMHO but what looks good. The SpaceNam guys got it right...the Ooh Rah guys did not, for me.

Those don’t look like the same kind of straps to me. The Oo-Rah look strapped for parajumping or similar, not to carry thigh holsters.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Smokestack wrote:
Between the "big zippers" and "weird straps" talk, I kind of want WA to embrace it and just release some fetish wear minis.

There's even a gap in the market for plastic death-cult assassins (and maybe other assassins, alternative chaos or genestealer cultists, etc.)

I would buy that. They could be cultists, vampires, Assassins, all manner of "bad guy"... I mean really just a latex "gimp" body suit like Rubber man from American Horror Story when armed with a weapon kind of has that sinister "bad guy" look.

Really like the facemasked helmets in the OoRah frame render, with those chest straps they look like they might partner well with the Bulldogs as veteran/carapace/Stormtrooper IG. Depending on armswaps and paintjobs, of course. In fact, open face OoRah helmets on the bulldogs, maybe some Cannon Fodder lasgun arms, mmmhmm, makes me want to start an IG army

I really need to stop looking for new projects that'll never get finished

General Hobbs wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

The upper thigh straps needed to be down by about 2 widths of the strap. Just looks sooooo bad.

Can you elaborate? Nearly every (if not all) combat harness I'm familiar with has thigh straps right at the crotch/hip so as to not hinder movement.
Or do you mean it needs to look more like video games or something?

I cannot elaborate for various reasons but all of the guys I used to work with wore theirs lower. I now currently live near a base and have friends on there and when I go visit them that is what I see. Is what it is.. In the pic below the guys have 2 straps, one high and one low, and the low is what I normally saw.

The point though isn't what is realistic IMHO but what looks good. The SpaceNam guys got it right...the Ooh Rah guys did not, for me.

O' so it is something that doesn't actually matter

 BlackoCatto wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

The upper thigh straps needed to be down by about 2 widths of the strap. Just looks sooooo bad.

Can you elaborate? Nearly every (if not all) combat harness I'm familiar with has thigh straps right at the crotch/hip so as to not hinder movement.
Or do you mean it needs to look more like video games or something?

I cannot elaborate for various reasons but all of the guys I used to work with wore theirs lower. I now currently live near a base and have friends on there and when I go visit them that is what I see. Is what it is.. In the pic below the guys have 2 straps, one high and one low, and the low is what I normally saw.

The point though isn't what is realistic IMHO but what looks good. The SpaceNam guys got it right...the Ooh Rah guys did not, for me.

O' so it is something that doesn't actually matter

It does matter. But as I say above, the look of the figures does not work for me, but does for other people. I shall have to continue to hope someone eventually does really good futuristic infantry that fits the aesthetic that I like/want. I am hoping they don't make the same look on the moderns they have talked about.

I have stargrave troopers and mercs, and there is just something....lacking...about those guys. The Raumjager are great and will fill a role for me. And I am also very hopeful about the Bulldogs....

So, something more like the Defiance UAMC or Mantic’s GCPS?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
So, something more like the Defiance UAMC or Mantic’s GCPS?

I think the Defiance guys would have been ace, but the Mantic guys and the Maelstrom's Edge guys just are not right. I am very picky lol.

I avoid Mantic stuff because the plastic is hard to cut/clean. And the GCPS guys guns just do not look right.

as there are no real Laser Guns hard to say which ones look right or wrong, but the GCPS kit comes with 2 different style of guns

I for one look forward to mix the WGA ones with the GCPS models, more options for Recruits/Marines/Veterans

General Hobbs wrote:
I avoid Mantic stuff because the plastic is hard to cut/clean.

it is the same plastic everyone else uses

 kodos wrote:
as there are no real Laser Guns hard to say which ones look right or wrong, but the GCPS kit comes with 2 different style of guns

I for one look forward to mix the WGA ones with the GCPS models, more options for Recruits/Marines/Veterans

General Hobbs wrote:
I avoid Mantic stuff because the plastic is hard to cut/clean.

it is the same plastic everyone else uses

I was not aware there were 2 guns.

I got some Mantic robots and orks and they were not the same plastic as GW or WGA.

before Mantic switched to Resin, they made their single models/heroes/monsters in PVC

but their hard-plastic/HIPS (as everything that comes on a sprue) is the same

I had little difficulty with mantic plastic, but their sprue design isn't as advanced in some cases. Some models look a bit more "2D" and have difficult to clean spots. But the plastic ist the same. The PVC is quite a different beast, though

HIPS is HIPS.

The sculpts tho... what they're putting out now is markedly worse than their kickstarted sprues cca 5 years ago (Warpath especially)

General Hobbs wrote:

I cannot elaborate for various reasons but all of the guys I used to work with wore theirs lower. I now currently live near a base and have friends on there and when I go visit them that is what I see. Is what it is.. In the pic below the guys have 2 straps, one high and one low, and the low is what I normally saw.

ok, gotcha. those are not combat harnesses, those are straps for other things one would wear on their thighs (pistols, etc). Those also look like Delta operators from the 90's. Modern US combat harnesses that feature leg straps all sit at the thigh/crotch level.

If these models had pistols attached to the leg I would agree they should have a horizontal thigh harness with a quickdraw holster, but it appears they just have a body harness, so the straps would be at the thigh/crotch (used to hold the harness and any attachments in-place to the torso during movement)

For me I wish the design had a quickdraw pistol chest holster.

Yeah, those thigh straps aren't what you seem to think they are hobbs

 judgedoug wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

I cannot elaborate for various reasons but all of the guys I used to work with wore theirs lower. I now currently live near a base and have friends on there and when I go visit them that is what I see. Is what it is.. In the pic below the guys have 2 straps, one high and one low, and the low is what I normally saw.

ok, gotcha. those are not combat harnesses, those are straps for other things one would wear on their thighs (pistols, etc). Those also look like Delta operators from the 90's. Modern US combat harnesses that feature leg straps all sit at the thigh/crotch level.

If these models had pistols attached to the leg I would agree they should have a horizontal thigh harness with a quickdraw holster, but it appears they just have a body harness, so the straps would be at the thigh/crotch (used to hold the harness and any attachments in-place to the torso during movement)

For me I wish the design had a quickdraw pistol chest holster.

In the art they had pistols attached to them.

General Hobbs wrote:
In the art they had pistols attached to them.

Apologies, I thought you were replying to the painted model, which has no pistol attached, or perhaps the sprue preview, which has pistols as separate pieces, and not to the "work in progress" preview images from months ago.

A bases survey (not on facebook)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/bases-survey



and sneek peaks,

top of the mecha armour, a support weapon, a topical bearskin and perhaps a running troll? or is it something smaller

Looks like more Heavy Weapon boxes for Death Fields to me

Sci fi alien ‘hunter’…?

 Ragsta wrote:
Sci fi alien ‘hunter’…?

My first thought was predator as well, but I've got a bad track record with puzzles and riddles, so...

It's his little known cousin that got into baking, Breadator.

 Eilif wrote:

 Ragsta wrote:
Sci fi alien ‘hunter’…?

My first thought was predator as well, but I've got a bad track record with puzzles and riddles, so...

My guess is something like a Yautja Predator as well. If so, wouldn't a translucent version be nice too?

No bugs update? Aww

Raumjäger Heavy Weapon, Mech-suit, Bearskin of napoleonic spanish grenadier, Predator/Super Mutant

Would like to see the Conquistador cavalry soon, to keep that range going. I love WA, but feel their releases should be more coherent with themed waves. By scattering everything, many people will either wait for a complete range or buy other manufacturers, before the corresponding sets appear.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
and perhaps a running troll?

Too slim for a troll. Some s-f reptillian alien?

The pose kind of reminds me of those previewed feral shadowkesh they showed a while back. Maybe updated concept or related?

 Smokestack wrote:
The pose kind of reminds me of those previewed feral shadowkesh they showed a while back. Maybe updated concept or related?

That could be it, I'd forgotten about them.

some info on what minis can be used on the WGA horses from a reviewer that they shared on Facebook for those that don't indulge

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:



some info on what minis can be used on the WGA horses from a reviewer that they shared on Facebook for those that don't indulge

Very useful information, but good heavens, all the info in this 26-minute video could have been a 5-minutes-to-read blog post with good-or-better resolution pictures.

 Eilif wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:



some info on what minis can be used on the WGA horses from a reviewer that they shared on Facebook for those that don't indulge

Very useful information, but good heavens, all the info in this 26-minute video could have been a 5-minutes-to-read blog post with good-or-better resolution pictures.

99% of youtube influencer content in a nutshell.

 Eilif wrote:
Very useful information, but good heavens, all the info in this 26-minute video could have been a 5-minutes-to-read blog post with good-or-better resolution pictures.

On the flipside, people won't watch it when it's that short either (and quite often subsequently tell you it should be longer, much longer) .

I feel like we need a generic dark age cavalry body or something to take advantage of those horses. We've all got plenty of spare arms and heads- it's the bodies we need!

Maybe there's some 3D printing stop gaps we could use to put our extra bits to use?

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 Eilif wrote:
Very useful information, but good heavens, all the info in this 26-minute video could have been a 5-minutes-to-read blog post with good-or-better resolution pictures.

On the flipside, people won't watch it when it's that short either (and quite often subsequently tell you it should be longer, much longer) .

?

Maybe? Tabletop Minions seems to do well and half his videos are half the length of that.

At 5 minutes I might actually watch it, but I'd still rather skim through a blog post in 3 with actual pictures I can zoom if they interest me. I'm not the target demographic though, so I'm sure the author knows his audience.

All that said, nice to see them painted though. As far as my quick click through showed, he's got skills.

The new OOh Rah pics are out.

The leg straps don't look as goofy as I thought on some of the pictures.

But.....the heads look out of proportion with the bodies. Dunno....maybe they need shoulder pads?

 Eilif wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 Eilif wrote:
Very useful information, but good heavens, all the info in this 26-minute video could have been a 5-minutes-to-read blog post with good-or-better resolution pictures.

On the flipside, people won't watch it when it's that short either (and quite often subsequently tell you it should be longer, much longer) .

?

Maybe? Tabletop Minions seems to do well and half his videos are half the length of that.

At 5 minutes I might actually watch it, but I'd still rather skim through a blog post in 3 with actual pictures I can zoom if they interest me. I'm not the target demographic though, so I'm sure the author knows his audience.

All that said, nice to see them painted though. As far as my quick click through showed, he's got skills.

If anyone would know what kind of mini review videos get watched and what gets skipped, it would be Highlord Tamburlaine. Plus it's not like you need to watch the last 15 minutes of the guy test fitting different manufacturers to the models. I didn't, but I'm really glad that info is there for if I had some riders sitting around

Can't wait for the Oo Rah to release, need those helmets for the Bulldogs based IG I'm currently working on.

Preview pics from twitter:

I think its the helmets looking big as they're actually designed so the bare head would fit (unlike space marines and similar)

The head in the doonie hat looks comically massive, the others look fine.

On Facebook, @Hudson Adams said these are for death fields but also for something else TBA... So its sounds like there is a game these are being made for. So these and the alien bugs may be for a specific thing...



from Facebook



"They seem differently proportioned than the other DF kits."

"Jason A. Martin they are part of DF but also part of something else TBA. A bit more natural proportions compared to the heroic 28s. But they’ll still fit in"

 Kalamadea wrote:


Preview pics from twitter:

Spoiler:

Wow, those look great. Will be looking forward to seeing the sprue shots. I agree that the boonie hat head looks comically large, but that's about the only nit I can pick with these.

At this point, I think we've got our sci-fi troopers well covered, but if these had been available last year I'm pretty sure my son and I would have bought them instead of the Stargrave plastic troopers. Not to say the Stargrave troops are bad at all, but these have a more hard-edge that my son (a Halo Fan) would really like.

Of course they're both swimming in "Aliens" waters but these figures very much seem like the spiritual successors to the Copplestone-sculpted Future Warriors Troopers, now sold by EM4 as "Future Skirmish" Troopers.

image from here: https://www.crookedstaff.co.uk/2011/02/

In that vein, it strikes me that for most of 2 decades, the 1990's EM4 plastic troopers were about the cheapest sci-fi troops you could buy and the only non-GW plastic troopers.
https://em4miniatures.com/collections/science-fiction-near-future-miniatures/products/troopers-scifi-plastic-miniatures
Technically they still are, but after purchasing even the cheapest parts to replace the horrible rifles...
https://em4miniatures.com/collections/science-fiction-near-future-miniatures/products/troopers-command-conversion-kit
... they are almost exactly the same price as the very nice sci-fi infantry sets that WGA has been releasing. Really points to what a golden age of affordable wargaming we are currently in.

 Eilif wrote:
In that vein, it strikes me that for most of 2 decades, the 1990's EM4 plastic troopers were about the cheapest sci-fi troops you could buy and the only non-GW plastic troopers.
https://em4miniatures.com/collections/science-fiction-near-future-miniatures/products/troopers-scifi-plastic-miniatures
Technically they still are, but after purchasing even the cheapest parts to replace the horrible rifles...
https://em4miniatures.com/collections/science-fiction-near-future-miniatures/products/troopers-command-conversion-kit
... they are almost exactly the same price as the very nice sci-fi infantry sets that WGA has been releasing. Really points to what a golden age of affordable wargaming we are currently in.

Agreed. One is spoiled for choice, and with many 3rd party manufacturers making bits for 40k, kit-bashing has never been easier! And both Northstar and WGA kits leave you lots of leftover bits so getting some extra torsos and legs from say, Victoria Miniatures or Anvil Industries gives you even more options.

From Facebook

Some sort of vehicle or a base? This looks like it is intended to interface with other pieces, which leads one to imagine a set of sci-fi walls

 lasgunpacker wrote:
Some sort of vehicle or a base? This looks like it is intended to interface with other pieces, which leads one to imagine a set of sci-fi walls

Grumpy Gnome pointed this out.

One of the preview pics seems to show a OOH Ra vehicle.

New set announced by WGA

New Set Announced: Unarmored Late Roman Infantry!
Following up on the first two sets in this range: Late Roman Legionaries (1): Lorica Hamata and Goth Warriors we have been working on a set of unarmored Roman infantry for this later period!

This set will allow you to build a variety of troop types armed with spear, spatha, or plumbata including options for full command. Additional light troops are being readied for release as well.

There is also a new shield sprue as part of this set so that we can fit more useful parts on the frames of this and future Decline and Fall sets!

 Smokestack wrote:

 lasgunpacker wrote:
Some sort of vehicle or a base? This looks like it is intended to interface with other pieces, which leads one to imagine a set of sci-fi walls

Grumpy Gnome pointed this out.

One of the preview pics seems to show a OOH Ra vehicle.

That's an old modular resin Heavy Tractor kit from Ratgard. Looks like Ratgard isn't around anymore, but unless WGA bought the files and copyright (which is possible), then it's just an old kit for set dressing. That said, I'd love a plastic Heavy Tractor kit!

Booo! Thought we finally saw a Wargames Atlantic vehicle.

 Kalamadea wrote:
The head in the doonie hat looks comically massive, the others look fine.

I think the helmet heads look like 1 step too large, but maybe with shoulder pads or something....( I feel the same about the stargrave guys)

The baseball cap guy looks perfect.

Victrix is also coming out with Late Roman unarmored dudes too.

These companies must have their market research done by the same people!

 Easy E wrote:
Victrix is also coming out with Late Roman unarmored dudes too.

These companies must have their market research done by the same people!

or they are competing and wargames atlantic has faster production?

Romans look sharp af but sadly I have no use for them. Maybe a base for a Mordheim gang?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Romans look sharp af but sadly I have no use for them. Maybe a base for a Mordheim gang?

SPQR could be a potential use. you could also start a late roman army project. They can be rather fun to paint in batches.

Those unarmored guys have such a universal style that they're pretty much a blank slate for whatever sort of project you want them to be.

I've turned some of the new Goths into chaos cultists, mutants, other ancient armies with just a simple head swap, farmers, and peasants. There's lots of fun potential there.

 Smokestack wrote:
From Facebook

That looks like terrain and reminds me of Whiskey Outpost from the ST film. Although looking at stills from the film, the actual set was even more shoddy than I remember, while this thing looks fairly nice.

Anyone know if the very large shields are historically accurate? That's not a veiled criticism; I honestly have no idea.

 Vermonter wrote:
Anyone know if the very large shields are historically accurate? That's not a veiled criticism; I honestly have no idea.

Yes. Scutum ranges in size based on manufacture, and these may be slightly larger than normal for detail purposes and thickness, but the oval scutum are accurate to the period.

Ok I'll Bute.

Why don't the late Roman's have armor?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ok I'll Bute.

Why don't the late Roman's have armor?

This looks like an overreliance on Vegetius' statement that Roman soldiers of his day were weak and did not want to wear armor. Vegetius was not a professional military man, but an armchair general and according to the wikipedia article, had probably misinterpreted a special case as overall practice. In wikipedia, they state that the pictorial record shows late Roman soldiers wearing armor (usually mail), and the archaeological evidence supports this as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Roman_army#Armour

Tried to get more detail from my Encyclopedia of Military History, but it only covers strategic and organizational changes in the late Roman army, not tactical details such as use of armor and what type like the wikipedia article.

Finally got the first of my WGA Sprue Reviews up.

The first one is Halfling Milita. Basic review, suitability for conversion and scale comparisons.

https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2022/09/cheap-sprue-review-wga-halfling-militia-and-a-classic-hobbits-roundup/

Eccentric Miniatures parts are used in the review. Just ordered a few more sprues and they'll get a separate review shortly.

Einherjar review is up next and almost complete. Squat content incoming....

 Vermonter wrote:
Anyone know if the very large shields are historically accurate? That's not a veiled criticism; I honestly have no idea.

My simple understanding is that big shields are used by soldiers in a tighter formation, like Hoplites, while smaller shields are used by soldiers who are not in a tight configuration, as well as cavalry.

By the time of the Late Roman Empire, there was also three basic military forces, the Imperial Army which was a rapid response force and went where the Emperor needed them and was often led by the Emperor, the Dux/Commitatus (sp and ?) army which was the local response force, and the limitanes (sp) which were basically the border soldiers.

The quality of their respective gear, training, leadership etc. tended to go down the closer you got to the border. Therefore, the Limitanes probably had a different set of kit than your standard Imperial Army soldiers. The most obvious difference was access to cavalry, but also arms and armor as well. After all, the response armies and the border guards had very different jobs!

Of course, I am going a bit from hazy memory so there you go.....I could be 100% off!

https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/all/products/ooh-rah

Ooh rah up for preorder


GET SOME!

The Ooh Rah are a relatively new team to the Death Fields Circuit having only been established a little over a century ago. Comprised of members of the 33rd Marine Expeditionary Unit, the team was abducted during a colonial uprising on New Florida. An upcoming star on the circuit, the Ooh Rah bring the highly-trained and multi-disciplinary approach honed into them as America's force-in-readiness across her expanding interstellar empire (still thousands of light years from true galactic civilization). They are a team to watch.

This box set includes enough parts to build 24 hard plastic soldiers that can be equipped with standard infantry rifles with underslung shotgun/grenade launcher, carbines, sniper rifle, pistols, shotgun, flame unit, and squad support weapons. Five headgear choices allow you to customize your forces.

Yup, ooh Rah on preorder.

if anyone is only looking for a partial kit, see my thread for details on sprue preorders.

Sneak Peek

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Sneak Peek

Intersting, my first instict would be scotts?

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Sneak Peek

Intersting, my first instict would be scotts?

But are they the real world or s-f ones?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Sneak Peek

Intersting, my first instict would be scotts?

But are they the real world or s-f ones?

Does it matter? They are scotts or irish?
Knowing wga and the Kits from them i got you get your moneys worth regardless.

Alas i 'd say with the oh-rahs and bulldogs they would be back on a historical kit.

Apparently some Australian and Canadian regiments wore Tam-o-Shanter style bonnets too, and similar caps were common throughout Europe in the early modern period, so there's a huge variety of different historical kits which those heads could theoretically fit. I'd put my money on WW1 Scots though.

Don't forget WGA is producing the figures for Grey for Now's WW2 spec ops game 0200 Hours. It could be a SAS commando expansion booster for that game. That said, it seems more likely that it is a historical WGA kit for their own line.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Don't forget WGA is producing the figures for Grey for Now's WW2 spec ops game 0200 Hours. It could be a SAS commando expansion booster for that game. That said, it seems more likely that it is a historical WGA kit for their own line.

They also have a tendency for including several different head options on their world War I and world War II kits.

Information on boats and shipping just dropped. I believe this was in response to a Facebook thread that got out of hand earlier today. Unfortunately I missed most of that information.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/updates-on-shipping-and-production

Did they delete that FB thread?

 Kalamadea wrote:

 Smokestack wrote:

 lasgunpacker wrote:
Some sort of vehicle or a base? This looks like it is intended to interface with other pieces, which leads one to imagine a set of sci-fi walls

Grumpy Gnome pointed this out.

One of the preview pics seems to show a OOH Ra vehicle.

That's an old modular resin Heavy Tractor kit from Ratgard. Looks like Ratgard isn't around anymore, but unless WGA bought the files and copyright (which is possible), then it's just an old kit for set dressing. That said, I'd love a plastic Heavy Tractor kit!

Thanks for clarifying that mate.

I just assembled my first Einherjar and my first GW Votann. A good bulk of my Votann army will be Einherjar. Good news, the Einherjar look great, and their heads look great on the Votann bodies. Bad news, they are a tad too short ( about 3mm shorter) and don't have enough "bulk". Adding backpacks really helped give more volume.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I just assembled my first Einherjar and my first GW Votann. A good bulk of my Votann army will be Einherjar. Good news, the Einherjar look great, and their heads look great on the Votann bodies. Bad news, they are a tad too short ( about 3mm shorter) and don't have enough "bulk". Adding backpacks really helped give more volume.

Any pics you can share?

 cuda1179 wrote:
I just assembled my first Einherjar and my first GW Votann. A good bulk of my Votann army will be Einherjar. Good news, the Einherjar look great, and their heads look great on the Votann bodies. Bad news, they are a tad too short ( about 3mm shorter) and don't have enough "bulk". Adding backpacks really helped give more volume.

Sounds like a cool project! I'm working up a review of the Einherjar for my blog and I'd you'd be willing, I'd love to include a comparison shot of Einherjar and Votaan, with credit to you of course.

I've got all manner of Squats and space Dwarves photographed, but no comparisons with Votaan.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Did they delete that FB thread?

Just was speaking to my trade rep. It may have been deleted by the original poster. WGA did not delete it themselves

From Facebook

“the first set will have two types of bugs and we may add some big boys later”

“… they're deceiving actually depending on which legs you use they can fit on 25mm-50mm bases. Some of the standing legs really compact the overall body down”

Well those are... competent, but nothing that would make me run out to buy them.

 Smokestack wrote:
From Facebook

“the first set will have two types of bugs and we may add some big boys later”

“… they're deceiving actually depending on which legs you use they can fit on 25mm-50mm bases. Some of the standing legs really compact the overall body down”

I like that quite a bit! Especially in the standing high pose. Sounds like it will be a kit with a good bit of flexibility.

I dig 'em. Maybe they'll bash well with gaunts???

I'd definitely try a sprue.

They look highly vulnerable to slick surfaces, but I've just come to accept that the " they walk on the points!" Thing isn't going away. Insects are able to do it because they have tiny microscopic hairs on their feet, which just doesn't work at the scale of these bugs.

That being said:

I quite like them! I'll be buying a box or two for sure. They look great as opponents for the Marines.

I do wonder what kind of attachment mechanism will be at the end of those claws to make a strong connection with the base? Hopefully there will at least be the opportunitiy to leave a bit of the sprue in place to plug into a hole drilled in the base. Otherwise we'll have bugs that come off their bases quite easily.

 Eilif wrote:
I do wonder what kind of attachment mechanism will be at the end of those claws to make a strong connection with the base? Hopefully there will at least be the opportunitiy to leave a bit of the sprue in place to plug into a hole drilled in the base. Otherwise we'll have bugs that come off their bases quite easily.

I find pinning higher up the leg and making it look like the leg moving is splashing up mud/dirt works well.

Wargames atlantic doesn't normally include bases, but I'm sure they took stability into account.

I'll be painting a box up for the store, and will provide sprue pics when my stock arrives.

Anyone know the count for the bugs (how many per box)?

 privateer4hire wrote:
Anyone know the count for the bugs (how many per box)?

That Information has not been released yet.

That running fellow from the teaser does certainly put off predator vibes to me. Not sure if that is a rope or pipe on its loin plate. And it seems to have some king of quill/scaley keratinisation on its upper outer leg. Orc bezerkers do not tend to get that sort of thing.

I'm loving the female resistance fighters teased in this week's WGA email!

She will say this only vanse.

La Resistance seem like they might work well for pulp adventurers / Call of Cthulhu investigators. Hopefully the arms with pre-war weapons will also have no armbands.

Has space nam started shipping from the US, or is it still upcoming? The status page seems to be down.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
She will say this only vanse.

Good moaning.

Werkrobotwerk wrote:
Has space nam started shipping from the US, or is it still upcoming? The status page seems to be down.

The status page is down. They are working on it.

Latest is SN will hopefully be "incoming shortly" from today's Friday email.

Got my "Cheap Sprue Review" done for the Einherjar.
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2022/10/cheap-sprue-review-wga-einherjar-space-dwarves-and-a-squat-roundup/
As a longtime Squat fan, I was able to provide comparisons with alot of RT Squats (and squat parts) and Space Dwarves. Even without the figures in hand, I got height comparison numbers for Votaan and Squat prospectors as well.

Enjoy!

They still look like 25mm humans, not 28mm dwarfs, to me.

Hate to say, but my favourite space shorties are still the Mantic ones... love the old Squats, but they do look very dated now. Best design still.
At least all of them aren't just repainted space marine eggs without any discernable character, like the latest abominations...

 Garfield666 wrote:
Hate to say, but my favourite space shorties are still the Mantic ones... love the old Squats, but they do look very dated now. Best design still.
At least all of them aren't just repainted space marine eggs without any discernable character, like the latest abominations...

Nothing wrong with that I think. The Mantic line is a tad inconsistent in size, but overall is well done, fairly complete and unified in aesthetic.

I'm an original squat fan myself, but I'll be using a few different Forge Father units in my Squat army of I ever get around to painting more of it.

I think the WGA dwarfs make a nice addition as Militia or Brokkr for the Forge Fathers, but the FF are also still my favourite main line

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/landsknecht-ogres-preview

I shouldn't be in the market for these but now I'm seeing Ventrillian Noble aligned Ogryns.


It's the feathers and the assault rifles wot dun it!

Wow, those look quite good. Oldhammeriffic!

Hmm 3 bodies per sprue. Means 4 sprues to make 12… so how many of the weapon sprue are we getting? And it looks like only 1 great sword, 2 halberds on it. So how many halberds, and greatswords in the box? There is one hand cannon on the weapon sprue and one on the body sprue… so we at least get enough for a least 1 per 3 ogres… + however many weapon sprues.

With the weapon sprue being s full sprue now… I am worried that it will be 3 body sprues only in the box… meaning 9 ogres instead of 12 in the box. Still better than GW though. Other than that looks good. Just seems like a lot of space was given to the scifi stuff.

Edit: just noticed it’s 2 hand cannons on the body sprue and a great sword and halberd on the body sprue too. So the weapons complaint is withdrawn.

Good looking Ogres, but the Sci fi bits just don't work for me. They will look like a bored kitbash and not like a proper unit like that... Wish they would have done separate boxes.
Some fantasy kits can be pimped well with futuristic bits, but here... I don't see it.

 Garfield666 wrote:
Good looking Ogres, but the Sci fi bits just don't work for me. They will look like a bored kitbash and not like a proper unit like that... Wish they would have done separate boxes.
Some fantasy kits can be pimped well with futuristic bits, but here... I don't see it.

May I ask what you mean by a "Bored kitbash"?

I'm guessing he means they don't look like sci-fi models, they look like fantasy models with assault rifles.

We'll see if the M1s and berets sell them.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm guessing he means they don't look like sci-fi models, they look like fantasy models with assault rifles.

We'll see if the M1s and berets sell them.

Yep. Flouncy pants plus machine guns is an aesthetic with limited appeal. Not regular sci-fi, not most Imperial guard, would fit into a few corners of grimdark with some conversion, but limited in appeal. Still, I completely see why they would do it. If there's room on the sprue, why not try and grab some additional customers?

For fantasy fans, however, it's a direct hit. Great fodder for any number of settings, and unlike the mistake many of their other kits have had, this appears (if the two sprues are in equal proportion) to enable the modeler to form cohesive units of Swords, Pole arms, muskets and and possibly hand weapons and there are at least 3 different head styles that can be carried across an entire unit (plus 2 sci-fi ones). If there are 12 in the box, that's two hordes in KoW and a ridiculous bargain. I'll buy a box even if it's 9, but fingers crossed for 12.

Got to agree, the modern stuff just takes up unnecessary space on the sprues. Would much rather those parts be done as a separate sprue that can be bought separately from the main box kit... which should be 100% fantasy.

Depending on how many sprues are in the box and and what price I may have.to get a few.

Wargames Atlantic arw quickly becoming a strong player in this hobby.

Not sure, but feels smaller than GW's fatmen?

The problem is the modern stuff is it's the only thing on the sprue I care about. Always hated the landshneckt look, and it would be awesome to get proper sci fi ogres, but this being a dual kit means that's unlikely.

I do wonder how well these will go with the Mantic plastic ogres coming out, probably too much to hope for to be able to kitbash a unit of ogryn form the 2 kits, Mantic bodies with WGA arms.

All the head options are nice, love that about all the WGA kits

Just the heads. Zoomed in
Good selection

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm guessing he means they don't look like sci-fi models, they look like fantasy models with assault rifles.

We'll see if the M1s and berets sell them.

Fashion is cyclical, and the right paint job can make even the most vintage clothes look space age. Those baggy pants might look good in black and silver…or maybe some kind of camouflage…

The heads need the most work. Some of the helmets might work with the feather removed or with a targeting lens and antenna added, but out of the box? Not really. Edit: I did not scroll far enough to the right. Flashy berets should work.

 stonehorse wrote:
Got to agree, the modern stuff just takes up unnecessary space on the sprues. Would much rather those parts be done as a separate sprue that can be bought separately from the main box kit... which should be 100% fantasy.

Depending on how many sprues are in the box and and what price I may have.to get a few.

Wargames Atlantic arw quickly becoming a strong player in this hobby.

Rumored price is still the normal $35.

If that holds, you can expect boxes at $30 each from Mcdougall Designs

looking good (and i will certainly be using some for SF builds)

 Kalamadea wrote:
The problem is the modern stuff is it's the only thing on the sprue I care about. Always hated the landshneckt look, and it would be awesome to get proper sci fi ogres, but this being a dual kit means that's unlikely.

I do wonder how well these will go with the Mantic plastic ogres coming out, probably too much to hope for to be able to kitbash a unit of ogryn form the 2 kits, Mantic bodies with WGA arms.

All the head options are nice, love that about all the WGA kits

When the mantic ogres and these ogres are both released, I will let you know if that conversion is possible

What I meant with "bored kitbash": sometimes when you have stuff left that you will never use, you end up kitbahing something just for fun. It doesn't make much sense and looks ridiculous, but hey - you were bored and no harm done.
But I would not pay money to do that.

Also just painted around 200 Landsknechte the last few weeks, now I am a bit tired

These ogres are just the right amount of mixing historical with fantasy; like the 19th-century Grimm brothers' ogre illustration someone posted in this thread.

The space weapons, on the other hand, find themselves in a minuscule overlapping venn diagram of interests that I'm not sure anyone wants. Space ogres? Sure. Renaissance ogres? Sure. Space renaissance ogres? Hmmm... But still, post your space renaissance ogres if you figure out a good scheme, it'd be fun to see.

But I think this would be fun to buy a box of this together with the conquistadors and make a force of Portuguese-Brazilian troops fighting the Dutch in an alternative fantasy universe.

 Osorios wrote:
These ogres are just the right amount of mixing historical with fantasy; like the 19th-century Grimm brothers' ogre illustration someone posted in this thread.

But I think this would be fun to buy a box of this together with the conquistadors and make a force of Portuguese-Brazilian troops fighting the Dutch in an alternative fantasy universe.

I'm definitely painting at least of these Ogres in my fantasy Not-Spain livery:

No giant zippers though.

Well, I'm sold on the Ogres, both for sci fi and fantasy stuff. I'm kind of curious how easy they will be to kit bash with some old Ogryn bits I have laying around - if nothing else, with all the left arms cut off at the hand, throwing a bullgryn shield on one will be trivial.

My only wonder is I still cannot tell if they are barefoot or if their boots have armor bits designed to look toe-like. Hoping for the latter.

And I mean, I'm a bit of a mark for Ogre type stuff, especially more civilized looking ones, so I suppose really they would have had to screw up bad for this to NOT be a kit for me.

It seems like they're all barefoot, but square shoes are easy enough to bang out with green stuff.

 McDougall Designs wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
Got to agree, the modern stuff just takes up unnecessary space on the sprues. Would much rather those parts be done as a separate sprue that can be bought separately from the main box kit... which should be 100% fantasy.

Depending on how many sprues are in the box and and what price I may have.to get a few.

Wargames Atlantic arw quickly becoming a strong player in this hobby.

Rumored price is still the normal $35.

If that holds, you can expect boxes at $30 each from Mcdougall Designs

No offence, but as I live in the EU, I'd rather buy them from an EU stockists and pay in Euro

Just checked the Dogs of War list for WFB 6th edition. Ogres with Light armour and Great Weapons are a special choice, a couple of the Conquistador boxes for pikemen, and Crossbowmen, with 2 boxes of the Ogres should make for a nice unified Dogs of War force.

Disappointed.

Hopefully the Sci Fi Landshneckt Were Sharks will be better.

Bugs

 stonehorse wrote:

 McDougall Designs wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
Got to agree, the modern stuff just takes up unnecessary space on the sprues. Would much rather those parts be done as a separate sprue that can be bought separately from the main box kit... which should be 100% fantasy.

Depending on how many sprues are in the box and and what price I may have.to get a few.

Wargames Atlantic arw quickly becoming a strong player in this hobby.

Rumored price is still the normal $35.

If that holds, you can expect boxes at $30 each from Mcdougall Designs

No offence, but as I live in the EU, I'd rather buy them from an EU stockists and pay in Euro

Just checked the Dogs of War list for WFB 6th edition. Ogres with Light armour and Great Weapons are a special choice, a couple of the Conquistador boxes for pikemen, and Crossbowmen, with 2 boxes of the Ogres should make for a nice unified Dogs of War force.

Heard and completely understood. Happy to help out any customers on the North American side of that pond


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Harvester images including the ranged option:


Some images, including the ranged option:

Eh, not sold on bugs at all. You can't walk on three limbs, I'd prefer ranged weapon to be fifth 'limb' underneath or above main body. Also whoever made photos sucked at their job, so many models have one limb obscured by another creating really uncanny two legged look. The images would really benefit if they were rotated and posed a bit more carefully (and also used a bit less boring/monotone color scheme - nature is really colorful, why not these?)...

Yeah, I like the spikey versions, but the ranged weapons don't work at all. I'd be tempted to use extra arms as legs, and pose them more upright.

Love the little crawley bugs, though.

 Irbis wrote:
Eh, not sold on bugs at all. You can't walk on three limbs, I'd prefer ranged weapon to be fifth 'limb' underneath or above main body. Also whoever made photos sucked at their job, so many models have one limb obscured by another creating really uncanny two legged look. The images would really benefit if they were rotated and posed a bit more carefully (and also used a bit less boring/monotone color scheme - nature is really colorful, why not these?)...

I'm going to go out on a limb (ha!) And say that because these look like crabs, they decided to paint them like Snow crabs.

 Irbis wrote:
Also whoever made photos sucked at their job, so many models have one limb obscured by another creating really uncanny two legged look. The images would really benefit if they were rotated and posed a bit more carefully (and also used a bit less boring/monotone color scheme - nature is really colorful, why not these?)...

That would be me

I rather like the bugs. I wasn't expecting extreme originality and I know it's wrong, but I like the SST-Bug-like pointy legs.

Also, not impressed with the ranged weapons but it will be easy work if I decide to attach them somewhere else (a pair over the shoulders perhaps...).

I do think a trick might have been missed by not making at least one alternate head that's much larger and a notably different style, but I don't think it's a big deal.

They're decidedly OK. Good option for generic bug baddies if I ever actually start playing 5 Parsecs or something. Agree that they should have had assitional limbs for the ranges weapons, but it probably wouldn't be hard to glue them to the carapace and GS the joint, tyranid biovore style

Any word on Ooh Rah release for the US?

 Kalamadea wrote:
They're decidedly OK. Good option for generic bug baddies if I ever actually start playing 5 Parsecs or something. Agree that they should have had assitional limbs for the ranges weapons, but it probably wouldn't be hard to glue them to the carapace and GS the joint, tyranid biovore style

Any word on Ooh Rah release for the US?

Ooh Rah are slated for a November release, same as the harvesters. No hard ship date has been given yet.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm guessing he means they don't look like sci-fi models, they look like fantasy models with assault rifles.

We'll see if the M1s and berets sell them.

Fashion is cyclical, and the right paint job can make even the most vintage clothes look space age. Those baggy pants might look good in black and silver…or maybe some kind of camouflage…

The heads need the most work. Some of the helmets might work with the feather removed or with a targeting lens and antenna added, but out of the box? Not really. Edit: I did not scroll far enough to the right. Flashy berets should work.

I actually like these Ogres, and I fething love Ogryns - but I can't see those poofy pants and M1 helmets working with those bodies and torsos for anything aside from a very niche Inquisitor's retinue type of thing - as opposed to actual Imperial Guard with a vaguely realistic modern military look - I mean, the helmets are a worse fit than the guns, really!