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 Eilif wrote:
Finally getting around to assembling some of the sprues I bought. Will do mini blog reviews later, but here's a trio of Hobbits.
Neat figures but infuriating if you want to do adventurers and with something other than pole arms or bows.

Yep as individual adventurers not particularly good as rank and file army troopers they are the best on the market in my opinion however and I need those Ogres!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They're not bad, I just resent that they exist...

yeah, especially when there were better and more logical choices in the poll.

I mean...how many boxes of these will they sell, and need to sell to make a profit? Much less break even.

A mold is anywhere from 10 to 50K these days right?

Plus the actual order, plus boxes, and labor.

Sell them at stores for 35 dollars, meaning they are being sold to stores for 21.

So 476 to make it back to just 10K. Is there really a big enough market to do so? Much less the actual numbers which would be higher.

When I and many many more people would have bought several boxes of Plains War cavalry/Tribal Peoples or robots or moderns.

I guess they know what they are doing.

I might buy some to use a base for servitor ogryn fodder for my darkmech.

I'm interested in maybe a 3rd kit for Les Grognards, some sort of "cavalry" maybe...

Racerguy180 wrote:
I might buy some to use a base for servitor ogryn fodder for my darkmech.

I'm interested in maybe a 3rd kit for Les Grognards, some sort of "cavalry" maybe...

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

While "playing the classics" - Ogres with clubs, elves with bows, dwarves with axes - is usually a safe bet, sometimes a risk can create a market no one ever knew existed.

I mean was anyone screaming for sky dwarves with magical zeppelins and power armor hanging from a balloon?

Dunno if I'll buy the Landshrek Ogres but I for one am happy they exist.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
While "playing the classics" - Ogres with clubs, elves with bows, dwarves with axes - is usually a safe bet, sometimes a risk can create a market no one ever knew existed.

I mean was anyone screaming for sky dwarves with magical zeppelins and power armor hanging from a balloon?

Dunno if I'll buy the Landshrek Ogres but I for one am happy they exist.

Well I was asking for Squats, got them in AOS and then was gak on for 40k...

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

 Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

Only what was originally said "So these fellows will come in around 45mm or so. This will be a full frame set aiming for three unique bodies on the frame with four frames in the box for 12 total figures."

But that is an old quote, so not sure if the final product will still reflect that.

 Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

There are affordable options for generic ogres?

I didn't see a use when they where announced, but now I really want to build an IG auxiliary regiment with those

General Hobbs wrote:


There are affordable options for generic ogres?

Reaper Bones?

https://www.reapermini.com/search/ogre

$5-$7 a pop.

D&D might also have cheap ones.


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Racerguy180 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
While "playing the classics" - Ogres with clubs, elves with bows, dwarves with axes - is usually a safe bet, sometimes a risk can create a market no one ever knew existed.

I mean was anyone screaming for sky dwarves with magical zeppelins and power armor hanging from a balloon?

Dunno if I'll buy the Landshrek Ogres but I for one am happy they exist.

Well I was asking for Squats, got them in AOS and then was gak on for 40k...

I know!

If I'm ever blessed with an abundance of time and money maybe I'll do a count as Tau army using the sky dwarves.

General Hobbs wrote:

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

So much this! I want normal ogres = huge brutes armed with clubs/hammers/axes. If they need some clothing better than some furs than give them some medieval peasants like ones.

There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

Ettins heads would be a really fun option to have.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

So much this! I want normal ogres = huge brutes armed with clubs/hammers/axes. If they need some clothing better than some furs than give them some medieval peasants like ones.

Isn't that basically just the D&D image of ogres though? Classic literary / folklore ogres often had a fairly 'noble' lifestyle (living is castles with vast wealth) and were illustrated in early-modern middle to upper class clothing. Gustav Dore's classic illustration of Puss in Boots, for example, has the ogre dressed in a coat with puffed and slashed sleeves just like the ones in the WA sculpts.

Well that IS interesting!

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

So much this! I want normal ogres = huge brutes armed with clubs/hammers/axes. If they need some clothing better than some furs than give them some medieval peasants like ones.

Isn't that basically just the D&D image of ogres though? Classic literary / folklore ogres often had a fairly 'noble' lifestyle (living is castles with vast wealth) and were illustrated in early-modern middle to upper class clothing. Gustav Dore's classic illustration of Puss in Boots, for example, has the ogre dressed in a coat with puffed and slashed sleeves just like the ones in the WA sculpts.

It is my image (I do not play D&D) of Ogres I want to see. Huge, dumb, human like brutes, looking and armed like described above. Basically fantasy version of GW Ogryns. I do not want them to cosplay as conquistadors/mongols/lancknechts/whatever. See the Northstar metal ones below. I would really like to have similar but in HIPS.

Those metal ogres look terrible. And they are dressed in some specific period costume every bit as offputting as Landsknecht or Mongol ogres. So, I don’t get what you are trying to say.


The Reaper ogres are better sculpted, wearing more generic primitive clothing, and have faces that were not sculpted ironically. They’re waaaayyyy more generic than your jester-clothes Fraggle-eater ogres.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Those metal ogres look terrible. And they are dressed in some specific period costume every bit as offputting as Landsknecht or Mongol ogres. So, I don’t get what you are trying to say.


The Reaper ogres are better sculpted, wearing more generic primitive clothing, and have faces that were not sculpted ironically. They’re waaaayyyy more generic than your jester-clothes Fraggle-eater ogres.

I did not say I want identical but similar. I also said above that I want them either in some furs etc. = very primitive or in some medieval peasant like clothing.

General Hobbs wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I would have loved generic ogres. Not fancy dressed up floofy guys.

I'd be inclined to agree if there weren't already good affordable options for ordinary ogres. I don't know if I really have a use for the WGF Ogres, but I've already figured out one to justify their purchase. Off hand I'm thinking that at minimum they could be a nice mercenary unit that I could use with either my Human or Chaos Warrior armies.

Do we know yet how many will be a box?

There are affordable options for generic ogres?

Mantic Ogres are what I was thinking of. Even moreso when you consider the army deals and the periodic sales on them.

I do see why folks would want the Landschekt ogres to be more generic though. Especially since as a hard plastic kit they'll be more flexible in use than the Mantic figures.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
There's still the LOTR style trolls coming, which are basically ogres and will have a bunch of variant fantasy creature heads (cyclops, I think even ettin)

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/new-set-announcement-trolls

Those are cool! I had missed that announcement. They would be an easyaddition to my KoW Varangur/Chaos army, but I prefer the 6 Khador Warjacks I'm currently running as trolls.

They really could be 3 toed ogres also.

Mantic is going to bring new plastic Ogres soon, so having a less generic fantasy plastic Ogres there the better option as having to many boxes with similar setting don't help anyone

I really like Landsknecht Ogres. Finally!

Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

Reaper ones are not hard plastic unless something changed?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

Reaper ones are not hard plastic unless something changed?

I was under the impression (and could be wrong) that Reaper remade their bendy bones ogres as multipart faux-hips bones-black style kits in the "dungeon dweller" line

I've got a couple of Bones Black figures and IIRC, they are stiffer then the white stuff, but definitely still PVC.

They're over a year old though, so things might have changed.

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah; soon we'll have three plastic ogre options; WA new ones, Mantic new ones, and Reaper bones. Very little to complain about on the plastic ogre front!

Plus GW and Mantic old ones!


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 Eilif wrote:
I've got a couple of Bones Black figures and IIRC, they are stiffer then the white stuff, but definitely still PVC.

They're over a year old though, so things might have changed.

Bones Black/USA is still the latest and greatest as far as I know. It's good stuff.

I wonder when they'll start shipping the SpaceNam boxes in the EU. I hope soon as I'm really looking forward to the models.

I know not everyone loves the big zippers on the cannon fodder... But Slaanesh does! The deamonette heads and arms are a perfect match size-wise for the cannon fodder 2 girls bodies.

and the conquistador legs match the GW elves pretty good too. I had a spare torso and some bits... so conquistador bottom elves... make the rockin' world go round.

Yeah... boring holiday on my own today...

Both conversions look good, although I like the Slaaneshi penal legion trooper best. Looks like the regimental chaplain and commissar were sleeping on the job to let someone THAT chaos-tainted remain in the unit. Should've BLAMMED her before she transformed.