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That would be much appreciated!

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:


How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?

I don't have any of the new GW skeletons but I'll see what I can scrounge up. I can do a shot of the sci-fi with more recent 40K though.

Thanks Dr Mathias, almost anything you have will likely be better than what we have now, which is a big nothing!

Thanks for helping out some fellow hobbyists!

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

This. And please, people, you can get a modern GW mini off ebay for pennies, don't use 20+ year old stuff that isn't even close to the modern scale & proportions.

Well, what would you like to see one up next to? Give me a few choices.

How about using one of the currently sold skeletons instead of one from the 90's?

As someone who uses those old GW skeletons in his KoW armies, I appreciate the inclusion in the scale comparison.
I'm sure current GW fans buying the latest GW stuff aren't going to be into these figures, but all the older fans who are prepared to buy non GW stuff are.

As an older fan who's prepared to buy both GW and non GW stuff, I can confirm you are in fact wrong. In fact, replacing a goofy old sculpt that lives or dies on nostalgia alone is one of the primary reasons I buy non GW stuff. In this particular case, having "plain" skeletons that match the modern ones in scale & style would be excellent, since they'd be a much better basis for Tomb Kings, but that's hard to discern when having to "translate" via the comical old Angryskull McGiantlimbs models.

I have to agree, the graphic designer they went with gives them a very Defiance Games feel. I'd be curious to try out a box of the Germans. One can never have too many Space Germans. I like that idea of using them as GSC troops, too.

This really needs to be a box of 32 Space Germans.

I wonder how close the torsos are to skitarii. I have a ton of ranger and vanguard extra heads and weapons and the long coats of these sci-fi germans might be perfect for that.

Hmmm...

Also, for what it's worth, Wargames Factory still exists but they no longer produce or retail their own stuff - they sold off their designs to Warlord, but last I had heard they were remaining in existence as a company who plans/designs/produces kits for other companies. This is obviously post-Reidy or whatever his name was.

So it's entirely possible this company is using Wargames Factory for design/production/etc. No data to back this up, but the smiliarities being so strong it's feasible.

 Elbows wrote:
Also, for what it's worth, Wargames Factory still exists but they no longer produce or retail their own stuff - they sold off their designs to Warlord, but last I had heard they were remaining in existence as a company who plans/designs/produces kits for other companies. This is obviously post-Reidy or whatever his name was.

So it's entirely possible this company is using Wargames Factory for design/production/etc. No data to back this up, but the smiliarities being so strong it's feasible.

The guy behind Wargames Atlantic was never part of Wargames Factory or Defiance. He's using a variety of freelancers, some of who did work for WGF. The methodology behind the running of the company is totally different than the way Reidy ran things. I agree that the aesthetic (particularly packaging) looks similar.

The factory doing molds is a different one from WGF, but the person running it is former WGF guy- hence the similarity in mold design.


L-R: Dreamforge Eisenkern (aftermarket head), Wargames Atlantic, GW Blackstone Traitor Guard, Wargames Atlantic, GW Blackstone Chaos Marine, Wargames Atlantic, GW Cadian Body (aftermarket head).


L-R: Raging Heroes, Wargames Atlantic, GW Cultist, Wargames Atlantic, GW Necromunda Goliath, Wargames Atlantic, GW Tau.


L-R: Necromunda Escher, Wargames Atlantic, Victoria Miniatures, Wargames Atlantic, GW Blackstone Rogue Trader, Wargames Atlantic, Raging Heroes.


L-R: GW Traitor Guard, Dreamforge Eisenkern, Wargames Atlantic Skeleton, GW Empire Body (Bretonnian head).

Apologies, I have no fantasy figures from GW more recent than 2000, other than the guy with the Empire body.

Dude, big thank you. They look great to me. You obviously know how to take a scale shot! Not to mention your fantastic painting!

Thanks for taking the shot from level and them all being in the same bases.

The skeletons are nice, I always prefer some jason and the argonauts style bare skeletons, but the mix of weapons is annoying, 8 of each!

Bah, I'll have to get several boxes to make whole 20 "man" units.

Well that settles that. Hello new Steel Legion! Already got more tanks than I know what to do with.

Yeah those scale shoots have convinced me. They mix extremely well!

I've been chatting with Mr. Adams for a little while and he showed me test shots a while back - the Raumsjager are designed to be fully compatible with Cadian plastics, and many of the pics he sent me showed the two kits mixed. I would not want to repost them here as I do not have permission, but they fit perfectly with plastic Cadians. I predict many Cadian players will be pleased with the ability to make perhaps Veteran infantry using the two kits combined.

I have also seen previews of the next few kits that are in tooling right now and they are fantastic. They will be producing historical, fantasy, and science fiction plastic infantry kits throughout the foreseeable future.

edit: the artwork may seem familiar to many because the first two kits' illustrations are by the famous historical illustrator Peter Dennis.

I don't mind the new troopers - don't love them, but I don't mind them. I think a backpack and a different head would set them up pretty well. Luckily that's the easiest thing to do. Not an army I'm starting, but I think it'll do well with people (until GW does a proper guard re-release).

Beasts of War has some coverage. The coverage seems a little low effort, but the models look good. I really like the sci-fi armor additions to the Raumjagers.
https://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/quick-look-wargames-atlantic-skeletons-troopers-and-fauns/

For those clamoring for equal gender representation on the tabletop it looks like the Raumjagers include a bare female head and I have it on good authority that one of the helmeted heads has a female head on the inside...

They should have put the pictures lower down in the post into the video itself.












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My thoughts:

Fauns look like the detail is super shallow. Like if you like to highlight it'll be a pain to get the paint where you want it.

Skeletons look good. I have a ton of weapon arms and heads left over from my GW skeletons so I might grab a set of these to make more basic undead units by combining the parts

Troopers - not a fan of the heads or the collars.

Yeah those are not very enticing pics. The troopers remain "okay" to me, and the skeletons are easily the best. The Fauns look awful, but it may just be the pics.

 Elbows wrote:
Yeah those are not very enticing pics. The troopers remain "okay" to me, and the skeletons are easily the best. The Fauns look awful, but it may just be the pics.

I think it is just the pics. Here is a plastic faun primed white from the faun thread:

Here are some better pictures of the raw plastic from another blog:


https://blog.untilsomebodylosesaneye.net/2019/05/fauning-all-over-you.html?fbclid=IwAR0Omr3STuK8uX-cx3Fff3u4Um5uBwHRs_iQGJOxYmACX1RWFsdq88X_6-4&m=1

I tried ordering the raumsjager through my FLGS. It looks like they'll be as hard to get in the US as any Frostgrave kit. Might have to wait months.

Has anyone ordered directly from Wargames Atlantic?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I tried ordering the raumsjager through my FLGS. It looks like they'll be as hard to get in the US as any Frostgrave kit. Might have to wait months.

Has anyone ordered directly from Wargames Atlantic?

They just recently set up, and are getting product ready according to their facebook page . They are very US based, so you'll be able to get these soon. I know they are very motivated to get distribution settled in the US.


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 Elbows wrote:
Yeah those are not very enticing pics. The troopers remain "okay" to me, and the skeletons are easily the best. The Fauns look awful, but it may just be the pics.

The reviewer was excommunicated for not observing the removal of mold lines, and I agree, the pics are not suiting

Please let me know when they are set up through a big, American distributor.

Ill let you know how the skeleton preorder went!

I pre-ordered 3 boxes of the infantry. I can post some pics/comments when I get them if anybody is interested.

That would be awesome, thanks.

@Nightreaver, where did you preorder from? The Wargames Atlantic site?

Yup, decided to say screw it and went for a 3 box preorder deal.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I tried ordering the raumsjager through my FLGS. It looks like they'll be as hard to get in the US as any Frostgrave kit. Might have to wait months.

Has anyone ordered directly from Wargames Atlantic?

FYI Warlord are now distributing the Frostgrave and Oathmark plastics ($32 msrp I believe). Any game store with a Warlord account can order them. They are on their trade order forms under the Warlords of Erehwon section.

Hmmm. Those German foot infantry look kinda squashed. I really liked the concept art, but the actual minis look overly wide. :(

 Stormonu wrote:
Hmmm. Those German foot infantry look kinda squashed. I really liked the concept art, but the actual minis look overly wide. :(

Sounds like they were designed to work with Cadians, so the wideness probably comes from that.

That's heroic scale for ya. Looking at the scale pics, they look fine when lined up against other GW products. When I get mine in I'll have to compare them to some Dreamforge Eisenkern I got lying around.

From their newsletter, the Skeletons and Raumjagers should start shipping this week from both US and UK hubs.

They also shared some art from their next sci-fi box sets: