You know, just stuff that you absolutely cannot get your head around, no matter how hard you try. This seems like a pretty nice invite for anyone to make slightly obtuse digs at other forum members, especially over politics, but that's just going to lead to just another argument, so can people please not do that.
People who insist, most strongly, that they could never eat a vegetarian meal. Not that they really like meat and don't want to give it up, that's fine, I like meat too. I mean people who claim the thought of eating a meal without meat somehow makes them ill. Did you put bacon on your corn flakes as a kid?
People increasing their hostility to something the more popular it gets. Like the mass of hatred that followed Avatar, which at worst could be called very well made but bland... that somehow sent some people into fits absolute hatred because, near as I can tell, it was really popular.
People texting while driving. I mean fething seriously, you're in a hunk of metal flying along at 100 kms an hour, surrounded by other rapidly travelling hunks of metal, and you think 'oh I don't need to pay that much attention'.
Michael Buble. I don't hate him, I just get why he's famous. I just don't get how that guy could be elevated above any of the other cabaret crooners around the world, doing the exact same schtick. I mean, why him?
Bronies. Most internet fads I kind of understand why and how they happened, even if I think it's pretty silly. I absolutely cannot begin to understand why young men started watching a show about ponies aimed a very young girls.
Intolerance, unmarked and identical push/pull handles, and texting in general. I mean, if it's actually important, call me. If it's not important, than either it doesn't matter or it can wait.
hotsauceman1 wrote:Are you trying to troll bronies here?
Eh? I'm not seeing it. All he's stated is that he doesn't understand how it started. Which is actually pretty reasonable, because most "bronies" don't even know how they got started or why they keep watching it.
People who are able but refuse to walk farther than their driveway. This includes people who are unable to walk further than their driveway because they refused to walk further than their driveway.
sebster wrote: Bronies. Most internet fads I kind of understand why and how they happened, even if I think it's pretty silly. I absolutely cannot begin to understand why young men started watching a show about ponies aimed a very young girls.
Anyway, what leaves you scratching your head?
This. Most of the time if I see a person with a My Little Pony avatar or signature, I typically assume that the person is a maladjusted, antisocial mutant. [Is this too harsh for Dakka? Mods, shoot me a PM to change it instead of banning me. Srs. ]
Bronies? Really? C'mon guys.
The fact that there are posts like this on Dakka:
Just saw today's, and
Spoiler:
OMG, OMG, OMG, they called Derpy Derpy, and gave her a voice actor, and made her a foreground character! Life = complete
Yes, I'm glad your life is completed by a TV show intended for 7 year old girls.
a) People that makes fun of asians eating dogs while themselves eat pigs.
By all means dogs are cuter I fully agree, but loyalty and intelligence, they are about there.
So its pretty much saying its OK because pigs are ugly....
b) People that says GW price is justified e.g saying elite units costs more ( gold swords ) because we need less to play with.
Then goes nerd raging at Warmachine prices.
c) People that says finecast flaws are ok because GW needs experience.
Well, GW of 30 years, casts worse than a 4 years old chinese recast company LoLz
d) LOTR prices increased while the content is cut in half ( ninja price raise )
People claiming its cheaper because content is halfed while price raised........
There are tons more lol, warhammer related stuff is always confusing to me...
LunaHound wrote:People that makes fun of asians eating dogs while themselves eat pigs.
People are usually don't make fun of them for eating dogs as much as being horrified. It isn't really all that much of a shock when you consider that dogs have a somewhat different place in western culture. Now you do get a lot of cats being food jokes.
LunaHound wrote:So its pretty much saying its OK because pigs are ugly....
The rule of cute has been around for a while, though often with dogs it isn't really the cute thing so much. A dog is a family companion, and you don't eat a family member.
killykavekommando wrote:Apple Computers haters. Apple is clearly more user-friendly for non-hackers and non-programmers.
No it isn't. I can agree on the not hating thing just becuase of the brand, but the last part of your sentence is just as silly as someone who hates PCs.
LunaHound wrote:People that makes fun of asians eating dogs while themselves eat pigs.
People are usually don't make fun of them for eating dogs as much as being horrified. It isn't really all that much of a shock when you consider that dogs have a somewhat different place in western culture. Now you do get a lot of cats being food jokes.
LunaHound wrote:So its pretty much saying its OK because pigs are ugly....
The rule of cute has been around for a while, though often with dogs it isn't really the cute thing so much. A dog is a family companion, and you don't eat a family member.
Are there any proven scientific studies of pigs not able to be family companion at a genetic level?
LunaHound wrote:
a) People that makes fun of asians eating dogs while themselves eat pigs.
By all means dogs are cuter I fully agree, but loyalty and intelligence, they are about there.
So its pretty much saying its OK because pigs are ugly....
Well, i think it has to do with culture. I don't have a pig running around in my house.
Dogs can provide protection that an average "pot belly" pig couldn't, IMHO. I grew up with
dogs as a part of the family for the most part. to me it would be like eating a family member.
as for pigs, can i just say "Bacon"!
n0t_u wrote:Dogs can't be family members at a genetic level either.
An animal is an animal.
Thats the thing, I wanted to know other than dogs being cuter, and being in the culture for ages,
are there any scientific prove that pigs couldnt be the same.
And Im pretty sure through selective breeding, pigs could potentially be bred to be
smaller
less fat
cuter
but the thing is , people never bothered, they just go YUMMYYYYYYYYYY
I suppose they could have, but dogs are domesticated wolves really so they go back ages with early roots in hunting which is why they wouldn't really be considered food at all.
Had they used boars instead it'd likely be different.
n0t_u wrote:I suppose they could have, but dogs are domesticated wolves really so they go back ages with early roots in hunting which is why they wouldn't really be considered food at all.
Had they used boars instead it'd likely be different.
Well ignorance is not an excuse, now we know what pigs are capable of... the question is
do we have mercy with our intellect or we think with our stomach
n0t_u wrote:Dogs can't be family members at a genetic level either.
An animal is an animal.
Thats the thing, I wanted to know other than dogs being cuter, and being in the culture for ages,
are there any scientific prove that pigs couldnt be the same.
And Im pretty sure through selective breeding, pigs could potentially be bred to be
smaller
less fat
cuter
but the thing is , people never bothered, they just go YUMMYYYYYYYYYY
Have you ever been around pigs? Seriously, it's not a dig. Pigs and dogs are apple and oranges.
My dogs go outside to use the bathroom. they can indicate that they need to us. Pigs aren't as
clean, IMHO. i've been in houses that had indoor "pot belly" pigs. much less sanitary to me.
Some people do have pigs as pets, it just isn't as common. Again, dogs aren't really any cuter, but they are different creatures and act differently. This isn't just in western culture either. In many cultures dogs are considered companion animals with a different status than others. For example, in many Native American cultures dogs were seen as intermediaries between the animal world and the human world. Pigs don't have that status. Dogs tended to be more helpful in different survival roles than pigs as well.
n0t_u wrote:Dogs can't be family members at a genetic level either.
An animal is an animal.
Thats the thing, I wanted to know other than dogs being cuter, and being in the culture for ages,
are there any scientific prove that pigs couldnt be the same.
And Im pretty sure through selective breeding, pigs could potentially be bred to be
smaller
less fat
cuter
but the thing is , people never bothered, they just go YUMMYYYYYYYYYY
Have you ever been around pigs? Seriously, it's not a dig. Pigs and dogs are apple and oranges.
My dogs go outside to use the bathroom. they can indicate that they need to us. Pigs aren't as
clean, IMHO. i've been in houses that had indoor "pot belly" pigs. much less sanitary to me.
I agree, half though.
I do agree the current evolution of dogs, compared to the pigs, there are tons of difference.
But pigs never received the same selective breeding, ingrained traits dogs had.
Dogs are the only animal that knows to look at where we are pointing at ( instead of just looking at our finger )
Ahtman wrote:Some people do have pigs as pets, it just isn't as common. Again, dogs aren't really any cuter, but they are different creatures and act differently. This isn't just in western culture either. In many cultures dogs are considered companion animals with a different status than others. For example, in many Native American cultures dogs were seen as intermediaries between the animal world and the human world. Pigs don't have that status. Dogs tended to be more helpful in different survival roles than pigs as well.
As in they can help you hunt a pig. Don't see pigs as good hunters. too loud.
People who criticize others for their hobbies, yet most of them who do this also wear shirts with other men's names on them on put their entire life on hold to watch a bunch of men pound each other into the ground over a ball for 3 hours.
LunaHound wrote:But pigs never received the same selective breeding, ingrained traits dogs had.
It isn't just selective breeding alone that made dogs the way they are.
If you are a tribe and you need to get enough food to survive, trufles isn't going to cut it. Trufles aren't really going to feed a village or fight a defensive battle like a dog will. Generally pigs aren't as defensive of their companions as a dog is.
sebster wrote:
Bronies. Most internet fads I kind of understand why and how they happened, even if I think it's pretty silly. I absolutely cannot begin to understand why young men started watching a show about ponies aimed a very young girls.
Anyway, what leaves you scratching your head?
This. Most of the time if I see a person with a My Little Pony avatar or signature, I typically assume that the person is a maladjusted, antisocial mutant. [Is this too harsh for Dakka? Mods, shoot me a PM to change it instead of banning me. Srs. ]
Bronies? Really? C'mon guys.
Y\.
Hey, I was a maladjusted social mutant before ponies. It actually made me come out of my shell more.
But OT: I dont understand people who hunt for joy. Good for you. You killed an animal that was doing nothing to you and probably had a family. In a world where you dont need to kill that cow for food hunting isnt needed
2: people who laud over how great their country/state/province/city is great and the best, Then sweep its blatantly obvously flaws under the rug.
LunaHound wrote:Not all dogs are good at hunting ( im looking at you chuhuahuas...... GRRRRRRR )
but my point is, on the other hand, what selective breedings does pigs get?
Yuo do realise chihuahuas where breed to be fast and agile to go for the underbelly of and animal. They never see the chihuahua coming till its to late.
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dogma wrote:
LunaHound wrote:
But pigs never received the same selective breeding, ingrained traits dogs had.
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Will we be getting real life Boar BoyZ soon?
I'm not a farm boy by any stretch of the imagination (My skin is too pretty.) but my friends that are have told me falling into the hog pen at feeding time is a bad idea.
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Will we be getting real life Boar BoyZ soon?
I'm not a farm boy by any stretch of the imagination (My skin is too pretty.) but my friends that are have told me falling into the hog pen at feeding time is a bad idea.
So Riding those pigs into battle would be a bad idea? Imagine U.S. Marine Boar Calvary.
LunaHound wrote:Not all dogs are good at hunting ( im looking at you chuhuahuas...... GRRRRRRR )
but my point is, on the other hand, what selective breedings does pigs get?
Yuo do realise chihuahuas where breed to be fast and agile to go for the underbelly of and animal. They never see the chihuahua coming till its to late.
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dogma wrote:
LunaHound wrote:
But pigs never received the same selective breeding, ingrained traits dogs had.
Oh yes they have.
Will we be getting real life Boar BoyZ soon?
Lisa Simpson " Im quiting eating meat DAD"
Homer " you mean your not going to eat bacon?"
LS "no"
HS "ham?"
LS "No"
HS"Pork chops?"
LS "Dad those all come from the same animal"
HS "oh yeah right lisa, some magical magical animal"
Thats one damn big pig...so bacon and French Toast for brekky, Ham sandwiches for lunch, and pork chops for dinner? =o]
So humans played god, and manipulated genes and breedings and traits. Pigs didn't get the same chance and ends up at our dinner table. We never showed them mercy or gave them a chance.
Why would god help us humans that have done so.
why should god heed our prayers
LunaHound wrote:Not all dogs are good at hunting ( im looking at you chuhuahuas...... GRRRRRRR )
Toy dogs only exist at the whim of the nobles, so to speak. You have to remember we are talking about general cultural and historical trends. There are always exceptions, such as the people who do have pet pigs. Selective breeding has generally only lead to one type of thing for pigs (more food, less destructive) whereas there are a myriad of dog lines. It still ignores the fact that historical documents show that before any serious slelective breeding began dogs still were considered companions and that pigs were still food. Selective breeding may have heightened some of the traits, but they existed before that started.
LunaHound wrote:Well lets say cats for example, if people bothered to eat cats, people willl be just as horrified.
I already brought up cats. Cats are not companion animals in the same sense as dogs. They are more of a lounge pet, like toy dogs. For the none upper class (be it Pharoah or other) cats were useful as mouse hunters.
Dogs show sympathy, empathy, and an aptitude for living with humans. In myth dogs hold a special place with humans that pigs do not. In science it is generally thought to be a mutual evolutionary adaptation. Neither has anything to do with cute.
LunaHound wrote:Guess now its going to be "Why Lunahound confuses you"
:'<
Nope, actually got me thinking about it. Not sure either, things are just the way they are. Making it look cute just creates guilt and thus drives away from it I guess.
LunaHound wrote:Guess now its going to be "Why Lunahound confuses you"
:'<
Nope, actually got me thinking about it. Not sure either, things are just the way they are. Making it look cute just creates guilt and thus drives away from it I guess.
In that case think about this.
To animals, plant, we humans are like gods. Yet we use them and abuse them when we can.
We show them no mercy and only care about preserving them if they are going extinct. And half of us caring about them going extinct
is us worried that they might carry genetics that can help us medically.
Now to gods, we humans are just like plants and animals, inferior beings.
So why are we so convinced they would give a **** about us, when we show such embarrassing display to lesser beings?
LunaHound wrote:To animals, plant, we humans are like gods.
I disagree with the fundamental assumption of this statement.
I agree we could be better in our relationship to nature much of the time, but I do not believe that we are seen as gods or that we are some god equivalent.
LunaHound wrote:Not all dogs are good at hunting ( im looking at you chuhuahuas...... GRRRRRRR )
but my point is, on the other hand, what selective breedings does pigs get?
fatter
more meat
more fertile
less aggressive.
Well lets say cats for example, if people bothered to eat cats, people willl be just as horrified.
Now cats cant hunt along humans either, probably does worse than even pigs.
So that brings us back to the original point, because they are cute and pigs are not.
You're forgetting Attack/defense dogs. There are some jobs a pig can't do, period.
Sure you can train a pig to sniff things out, maybe. but i don't see K9 officers(civil or military)
trading their dogs in for pigs anytime soon.
And i thought chuhuahuas were mousers? Guess it all depends on the prey as to how well they could do it.
Hug a German shepherd, now hug a hog. Dogs feel better. There protective abilities along with their alertness levels can not be matched by pigs.There is a special relationship that has developed between dogs and humans, that I just don't think pigs could really fill that role. Cats I don't get at all, they are pretty useless.
as an asian who's actually HAD experience eating dog (i dont like it but i have eaten it on occasion) there are reasons why even in asia, dogs bred for food isnt popular:
1. Everything else tastes better
2. Everything else is easier to raise in large numbers
3. Everything else is more docile than a pack of dogs
4. Everything else produces more meat per animal than dogs.
Dog meat is too lean, gamey and boney. Dog bones are much brittler than pork bones, splinter into sharp shards and are more likely to cause choking than chicken bones.
Goat meat is very much like dog meat now that i think about it...but Goat meat is tastier
Now as for why pigs arent bred to be companions, I guess its because pigs dont have the inherent "please the master" instinct that dogs do.
take for example the truffle industry. They used pigs to hunt for truffles in the past but the pigs were liable to eat them and liable to eat your fingers off if you tried to take the truffles from them. They turned to dogs because while a dog may eat a truffle, a properly trained dog will be able to fight its instict to eat the goods. Pigs not so much.
LunaHound you ever heard of Teacup Pigs? Google it.
Pigs aren't as popular as dogs as pets because they're not as good of pets as dogs. They don't generally interact with strangers and families as well as dogs do. I used to have a pot bellied pig and while I still love him to this day he really wasn't nearly as good as of a pet as my Border Collie.
That and while I never ate dog there is no way it tastes as good as bacon.
You know what confuses me?
Why people in SUV's seem to feel their car can stop better in the snow than normal car? Maybe there is slight differences but I dunno. Seems to me I see more 4x4's in the ditch than any other. Pure anecdotal evidence btw.
The behavior of people used to occasionally confuse me, but then I realized that I was wasting valuable drinking time expecting the world to make sense. Once I started not caring why people do all of the stupid gak that makes them so happy, I became much more happy myself. Even now that I don't drink any more, I'm still happy.
DutchKillsRambo wrote:Why people in SUV's seem to feel their car can stop better in the snow than normal car? Maybe there is slight differences but I dunno. Seems to me I see more 4x4's in the ditch than any other. Pure anecdotal evidence btw.
When i first came to Canada, my parents were buying cars. They were told by the sales person that
SUV generally have 4 wheel drive, designed for all year, tougher incase crashes, and heavier for more traction.
hotsauceman1 wrote:Are you trying to troll bronies here?
Not at all. I’m just saying it’s a thing I don’t understand. I mean, how did it happen? Even if one guy just happened to sit down and this thing was on telly and he discovered he loved it, and instead of watching it in private afraid other people would make fun of him but instead went to the internet to tell everyone else how great this show is, how did he convince other young men to try the show? How did this happen so much that it became an internet phenomenon, and how did people go from watching the show to making so much art attaching it to various geek properties? How did the support become so fanatical?
LunaHound wrote:[But pigs never received the same selective breeding, ingrained traits dogs had.
No, and maybe if there’d been a role for a domesticated pig in nomadic tribes thousands of years ago it’d all be different, but there wasn’t, or the tribesman didn’t see one and just stuck to the dogs. So instead we have pigs bred for food, not companionship.
But the thing is you don’t treat an animal according to what it might have been bred into had things been different, you treat it according to what it is.
DickBandit wrote:People who criticize others for their hobbies, yet most of them who do this also wear shirts with other men's names on them on put their entire life on hold to watch a bunch of men pound each other into the ground over a ball for 3 hours.
Good one. I love sport, and get a lot of fun out of watching the best play, but why do people get so engrossed in whether one franchise wins or another? The players aren’t local, so it isn’t as though it’s the best of your city on display, it’s just a bunch of people picked through a draft or bought on the open market, coming in to play, bankrolled by people who fanatically support whoever is brought in. “Yes! We won! My membership fee was successfully invested in the best players! That means a lot to me!”
I guess you see the same with some wargamers. Not the guys who think they're wonderful because they win lots of games, they're obnoxious, but understandable. No, I mean the guys who think they're great because the faction they picked is great. It's the Chaos guy who keeps talking about Chaos, and in turn Chaos players, are the best because Chaos is destined to eventually win.
sebster wrote:No, and maybe if there’d been a role for a domesticated pig in nomadic tribes thousands of years ago it’d all be different, but there wasn’t, or the tribesman didn’t see one and just stuck to the dogs. So instead we have pigs bred for food, not companionship.
But the thing is you don’t treat an animal according to what it might have been bred into had things been different, you treat it according to what it is.
I know thats how it is in the real world, and I hate it.
Bronies. Hello kitty Other Chibi, kawaii and impossibly "cute" stuff.
Never have, never will understand it.
Internet meme jokes like the "arrow to the knee" thing. (I had that one explained to me. Not having EVER played a single D&D computer game - and Skyrim is just another Elder scrolls, which is just another D&D game, I wouldn't have ever figured it out for myself).
Love for the 1985 transformers movie. I've seen it. The animation was lame, even for its time. The music was eardrum-puncturing bad, cliched 80s hair metal. Yet some people think you have just violated their pet gerbil if you say you don't like it and enjoyed the live-action movies.
@Luna: We've always separated animals into the "cute" ones and the "edible" ones.
Otter: Can do cute human things with its 'hands' - Cute, do not eat. Cow: Tastes good, provides leather for baseballs and mitts. Edible. Crocodile: Ugly as feth, but it was going to eat you if you didn't kill it and marinade it first, before bbqing it. Ugly, edible. Pig: Ugly, smelly, not particularly sociable. Tasty.
Dolphin: Cute, does things for fun - even fapping. Most people don't eat them. They also taste bad.
Bronies.
Hello kitty
Other Chibi, kawaii and impossibly "cute" stuff.
Never have, never will understand it.
Internet meme jokes like the "arrow to the knee" thing.
(I had that one explained to me. Not having EVER played a single D&D computer game - and Skyrim is just another Elder scrolls, which is just another D&D game, I wouldn't have ever figured it out for myself).
Love for the 1985 transformers movie. I've seen it. The animation was lame, even for its time. The music was eardrum-puncturing bad, cliched 80s hair metal. Yet some people think you have just violated their pet gerbil if you say you don't like it and enjoyed the live-action movies.
But chromedog your avatar with santa hat IS CUTE KAWAIIII
A common – if unlikely – claim made by dog owners is: “He understands every word you say.” But scientists are increasingly finding that it might be truer than you think. The evidence suggests that the two species have moulded each other over a long period of co-evolution, and have developed sophisticated communications in the process.
Archæological findings show that dogs were first domesticated at least 10,000 years ago, with one find at the Goyet Cave in Belgium recorded in 2008 possibly pushing that back to 30,000 years. Genetic studies indicate that the process of domestication that split dogs from wolves may date as far back as 100,000 years. And the relationship may have started long before that, as some archæological finds put humans and wolves in the same place 400,000 years ago.
The aptly named biologist Wolfgang Schleidt suggests that the two came together in Northern Europe at a time when humans – either Homo sapiens or the earlier H.erectus or H.heidelbergensis – existed in small nomadic groups. Humans joined wolves in their following of migratory reindeer, and the two races of hunter-scavengers started working together.
The success of the wolf pack hinges on the members’ ability to work together without conflict and share the kill. Recent work with dogs shows that they have a sense of ‘fair play’, previously thought to be limited to primates. The experiment at the University of Vienna involved training dogs to extend a paw. The dogs were happy to perform this trick with or without a reward when on their own. But if they were with another dog which received a reward when they did not, the dogs quickly refused to play.
We don’t know yet whether wolves share this attitude. Some have suggested that dogs became attuned to fairness as an adaptation for living with humans. This seems questionable: the phrase “a dog’s life” dates back to the 17th century, meaning “a life of misery, or of miserable subservience”.
Perhaps humans gained their own notions of fairness from their companions during the period when the two worked together. Wolfgang Schleidt suggests that “wolves and dogs, with their remarkable capacity for co-operation and loyalty, were both role models and companions on this long trek toward humanity.”[1]
Sherlock Holmes once noted the curious silence of a dog, which failed to bark in the night (clear evidence to the great detective that an intruder was known to the dog). However, what is really curious is that dogs bark at all. Barking is rare among wolves, whose vocal communications are generally howls or growls. Barking appears to have been evolved to talk to people.
Barking is more effective at getting human attention than growling. Peter Pongracz, a behavioural biologist at Eotvos University in Budapest, has shown that the pattern of barking is different for aggression, loneliness and happiness. Pongracz’s team recorded hundreds of different barks from different situations. Not only were the barks consistently different depending on the dog’s emotional state, but even people who had never owned a dog were able to correctly interpret them. Our long association with them means that understanding dogs is hardwired into the human psyche.
Humans and dogs also share the ability to follow a gaze or gesture to see what someone else is looking at or indicating. This is very unusual in nature – even chimpanzees have trouble with pointing tasks. However, the same team at Eotvos University also showed that dogs are capable of following both gaze and pointing. This should not come as any great surprise when you consider what Pointers are bred to do. Wolves are also capable of learning the same tricks, but it is much harder for them: unlike dogs they are not used to looking at humans.
Again, it would be interesting to know if pointing or gaze-following is a natural skill in wolves that humans – being mere primates and a bit slow – gradually acquired over time.
Dogs also read human facial expressions. A team at the University of Lincoln has found that dogs show what is termed ‘left gaze bias’. This is the tendency, when looking at a human face, to look left (i.e. at the right-hand side of the face) first, and to spend more time looking at this side. Left gaze bias has already been established as a human trait and only occurs when looking at faces. The reason for it is that emotions register more clearly and more intensely on the right side of the face. And dogs have been around humans long enough to have face-reading in their genes.
However, while it might seem that dogs and humans have evolved to understand each other very well, there is one huge gap. Children under the age of five have very little understanding of dog body language or barks and can’t tell a happy dog from an angry one. An excited child may try to hug this big fluffy toy, with disastrous results. Dogs and small children should always be supervised; possibly ancient humans didn’t leave children alone with dogs the way their modern descendents are prone to. Or perhaps evolution still has some work to do.
So far, research into dog-human communication has only scratched the surface; but the indications are that, even if they don’t catch every word, dogs understand us very well indeed because they shaped our brains as we shaped theirs.
NOTES
1 WM Schleidt: “Apes, wolves, and the trek to humanity”, Discovering Archaeology, 1999.
People that absolutely rave on about song X or band Y.
Look, your passion is commendable but no need to ram it down our throats, not all of us share the same tastes as you and braying about it isnt going to change our minds.
Women who hate videogames, not those that hate playing them but those that hate the games themselves.
One of my close friends has his 18th coming up and as a gift I was going to get him saints row the third, a game he has been pining after for a while, yet his girlfriend has insisted that "it's his 18th birthday, he doesn't want videogames". Fair play to her if she doesn't enjoy them but outright telling your boyfriend he isn't allowed to have any video games for his birthday is mad.
I don't understand people who are totally incurious about important stuff, but then fanatically interested in what I consider utterly boring celebrity gossip. The way people build heirarchies of interest is baffling to me.
Da Boss wrote:I don't understand people who are totally incurious about important stuff, but then fanatically interested in what I consider utterly boring celebrity gossip. The way people build heirarchies of interest is baffling to me.
This.
The people that say "but what's the POINT in physics it's so boring" then go out and religiously read heat magazine are incredibly annoying.
I don't get why the beef meatpacking sector is maintaining $100+ negative margins per head when capacity utilization is no worse than year-ago and contribution margin for the incremental head is actually worth less than simply sending the people home (paid) and letting the plant sit empty for a day.
sourclams wrote:I don't get why the beef meatpacking sector is maintaining $100+ negative margins per head when capacity utilization is no worse than year-ago and contribution margin for the incremental head is actually worth less than simply sending the people home (paid) and letting the plant sit empty for a day.
We were all thinking it, but only sourclams has the guts to say it.
People who like metal music to the exclusion of all else and yet fail to see that they're being just as elitist as normies who'll mock anyone who listens to non-dubstep/whatever kids listen to this day.
Plus, imo, metal is just as unimaginative and objectifying toward women as mainstream R&B.
The last slam against metal: The fact that I, as a spindly, gangly and lanky white nerd, must LOVE it by default. I can see why music might be associated with identity, but I don't see how my identity should force me to like certain kinds of music. If I go to any social event at uni with people of my 'social caste' and music gets put on... what is it gonna be? Bloomin' metal with its repetitive guitar riffs 'n' boring tat. There's good metal, sure, but at its worst it's just as manufactured as anything else.
I listen to anything.
As for bronies: I was 'with it', for a while, watched a few episodes and, yeah, they're very well-made, I quite like fluttershy. It's all rather cute and funny, yes and the memes get a chuckle out of me. But people constructing their very online [i]identity[i/] out of it seems rather sad to me. Perhaps what irks me a little is that there's a guy on YouTube who has uploaded every 2 second snippet imaginable from all two series... how did he find the time and what kind of life must he lead?
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Albatross wrote:Not a direct reply to the poster above, but it did make me think of something which always confuses me:
People who say that they're 'not into music'. I find that completely bizarre.
Since this relates to my point a little, I'll chime in:
I am someone who says this, and when I do, what I *really* mean is 'I do not lower myself to limiting my music choice for reasons of social constructs'
I mean, how do you answer? 'Oh I like rap.' I think it's supposed to say a lot about you when, really, I
A. Don't listen to music that much
B. Don't let it define me
C. Feel above any petty squabbles about genres.
Although ironically I seem to be pumping out words about just that. Hrm. Hypocrisy?
I do not understand why people find eating a dog to be strange or wrong.
It confuses me that people pay so much attention to things like who in hollywood is dating, marrying, divorcing who, but pay so little attention to things that may directly affect them.
Internet fights (debate sure, name calling and getting actually upset, no), and text sex, netsex, what have you. Really, wow, no clue why people do it.
Disabled parking permits for people who are simply fat. This is so backwards it is not even funny, but all too common. So confusing.
Albatross wrote:Not a direct reply to the poster above, but it did make me think of something which always confuses me:
People who say that they're 'not into music'. I find that completely bizarre.
Since this relates to my point a little, I'll chime in:
I am someone who says this, and when I do, what I *really* mean is 'I do not lower myself to limiting my music choice for reasons of social constructs'
Interesting. I also say I'm "not into music" and I really mean it. To me, music is simply an alternative to background noise. I put it on when I'm painting or something, but I wouldn't ever sit down and listen to an entire album. I don't even have an iPod.
As for dogs, if dogs were as delicious as pigs, I would have no problem eating them. I've eaten ducks, turtles and rabbits and I think they all fall into the 'cute' category. They also qualify as 'delicious.'
Not much confuses me, I just accept that people are strange.
Albatross wrote:Not a direct reply to the poster above, but it did make me think of something which always confuses me:
People who say that they're 'not into music'. I find that completely bizarre.
Since this relates to my point a little, I'll chime in:
I am someone who says this, and when I do, what I *really* mean is 'I do not lower myself to limiting my music choice for reasons of social constructs'
Interesting. I also say I'm "not into music" and I really mean it. To me, music is simply an alternative to background noise. I put it on when I'm painting or something, but I wouldn't ever sit down and listen to an entire album. I don't even have an iPod.
As for dogs, if dogs were as delicious as pigs, I would have no problem eating them. I've eaten ducks, turtles and rabbits and I think they all fall into the 'cute' category. They also qualify as 'delicious.'
Not much confuses me, I just accept that people are strange.
Duck, deer and rabbit are all cute and delicious.
My problem with eating dog stems from the idea of eating a mammalian carnivore, it's just an inherently repulsive idea to me.
sourclams wrote:I don't get why the beef meatpacking sector is maintaining $100+ negative margins per head when capacity utilization is no worse than year-ago and contribution margin for the incremental head is actually worth less than simply sending the people home (paid) and letting the plant sit empty for a day.
We were all thinking it, but only sourclams has the guts to say it.
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Hey, I was a maladjusted social mutant before ponies. It actually made me come out of my shell more.
But OT: I dont understand people who hunt for joy. Good for you. You killed an animal that was doing nothing to you and probably had a family. In a world where you dont need to kill that cow for food hunting isnt needed
But hunting is cheaper then buying the meat at a supermarket.
What if you hunt in the meat section of the grocery store?
My wiener dogs hunt steak, and popcorn, and dead animals that would make a billy goat puke. Then they get sick and throw up all over the place, or if I am around, on me. Nothing like a dog climbing into your lap and puking all over your chest. I get no respect.
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
Bet you didn't know that i'm 1/312.4333333333332 dinosaur...
Women confuse me.
Men confuse me.
Humans confuse me.
Now i'm confused.
Anyone who says "you don't know what you're talking about" in an argument
People who argue while holding a position that they actually have no information on
Organized religion
People who are "disgusted" by the actions of other cultures
Nationalism
People hating an item based purely on the category (hating iPods because it is an Apple product, hating an artist because they create Rap/Meta/Whatever, etc.)
Modern Art (specifically: Cubism, Futurism, Abstract
Expressionism, Color Field, Miminal, Hard-Edge)
Why some companies don't release a product that would most likely be a success
How anyone can complain about the price of gas when water costs more
On a extremely personal note:
Why my office doesn't have a window.
About eating carnivorous mammals, I had the opportunity to live in Korea years ago and tried dog (yuck!) but they only served cat to the elderly. I so wanted to try it . . . but I wasn't old enough. -sad face-
I don't get smugness. Especially smugness over something that is not important. I follow the NFL and if another guy brags to me about how HE (meaning his team) won X number of superbowls I think I will puke. Also why is it that most people who brag like this typically have the least personal accomplishments in their lives?
Can't believe I left these out.
People who keep on driving after the light is clearly RED!
And thinking turn signals are an add on to the car. Not a part of the whole driving thing.
Shrike325 wrote:Anyone who says "you don't know what you're talking about" in an argument
People who argue while holding a position that they actually have no information on
Organized religion
People who are "disgusted" by the actions of other cultures
Nationalism
People hating an item based purely on the category (hating iPods because it is an Apple product, hating an artist because they create Rap/Meta/Whatever, etc.)
Modern Art (specifically: Cubism, Futurism, Abstract
Expressionism, Color Field, Miminal, Hard-Edge)
Why some companies don't release a product that would most likely be a success
How anyone can complain about the price of gas when water costs more
On a extremely personal note:
Why my office doesn't have a window.
Where do live at in the US that water costs more than gasoline?
Shrike325 wrote:Anyone who says "you don't know what you're talking about" in an argument
People who argue while holding a position that they actually have no information on
Organized religion
People who are "disgusted" by the actions of other cultures
Nationalism
People hating an item based purely on the category (hating iPods because it is an Apple product, hating an artist because they create Rap/Meta/Whatever, etc.)
Modern Art (specifically: Cubism, Futurism, Abstract
Expressionism, Color Field, Miminal, Hard-Edge)
Why some companies don't release a product that would most likely be a success
How anyone can complain about the price of gas when water costs more
On a extremely personal note:
Why my office doesn't have a window.
Where do live at in the US that water costs more than gasoline?
Go into any gas station, a 20oz bottle of water costs, what, $1? 1 gallon is equivalent to ~6 - 20oz bottles. Gas isn't $6 a gallon where I live ($3.50 or so)
Shrike325 wrote:Anyone who says "you don't know what you're talking about" in an argument
People who argue while holding a position that they actually have no information on
Organized religion
People who are "disgusted" by the actions of other cultures
Nationalism
People hating an item based purely on the category (hating iPods because it is an Apple product, hating an artist because they create Rap/Meta/Whatever, etc.)
Modern Art (specifically: Cubism, Futurism, Abstract
Expressionism, Color Field, Miminal, Hard-Edge)
Why some companies don't release a product that would most likely be a success
How anyone can complain about the price of gas when water costs more
On a extremely personal note:
Why my office doesn't have a window.
Where do live at in the US that water costs more than gasoline?
Go into any gas station, a 20oz bottle of water costs, what, $1? 1 gallon is equivalent to ~6 - 20oz bottles. Gas isn't $6 a gallon where I live ($3.50 or so)
mmm, ok you mean crappy bottled water. my water bill is considerably less.
I don't get anyone who criticizes others based on their choice of product (XBox vs PS3), style (hipsters), music, or legal recreational activity. Really, how does other people's personal preferences matter to you?
I do get the people that criticize others based on nationality, race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. Those people are . I hate them, but at least I understand them.
Shrike325 wrote:Anyone who says "you don't know what you're talking about" in an argument
People who argue while holding a position that they actually have no information on
Organized religion
People who are "disgusted" by the actions of other cultures
Nationalism
People hating an item based purely on the category (hating iPods because it is an Apple product, hating an artist because they create Rap/Meta/Whatever, etc.)
Modern Art (specifically: Cubism, Futurism, Abstract
Expressionism, Color Field, Miminal, Hard-Edge)
Why some companies don't release a product that would most likely be a success
How anyone can complain about the price of gas when water costs more
On a extremely personal note:
Why my office doesn't have a window.
Where do live at in the US that water costs more than gasoline?
Go into any gas station, a 20oz bottle of water costs, what, $1? 1 gallon is equivalent to ~6 - 20oz bottles. Gas isn't $6 a gallon where I live ($3.50 or so)
mmm, ok you mean crappy bottled water. my water bill is considerably less.
Yeah, tap water is much less. But, the people (generally) who will complain the loudest about gas are the ones that bring 50 bottles of store purchased water with them to work.
Rented Tritium wrote:I'd make a list, but I'm sure I've done all of the things on my list at least once and that would be embarrassing.
I also don't understand people who hate hypocrites. Isn't a great way of learning what not to do to actually do it and realize it's dumb?
Yeah, it's strange isn't it? People are very fast to be like "yeah, well you didn't think so when you XYZ" when the fact that you did it makes you more qualified to talk about why it's bad.
Bastion of Mediocrity wrote:About eating carnivorous mammals, I had the opportunity to live in Korea years ago and tried dog (yuck!) but they only served cat to the elderly. I so wanted to try it . . . but I wasn't old enough. -sad face-
I don't get smugness. Especially smugness over something that is not important. I follow the NFL and if another guy brags to me about how HE (meaning his team) won X number of superbowls I think I will puke. Also why is it that most people who brag like this typically have the least personal accomplishments in their lives?
I HATE that, people who say "we" when he means the football team he supports.
There's pretty sound reasons for not eating carnivores. They tend to have a slightly higher parasite load (IRC) and certainly have higher levels of fat soluble toxins (so DDT, mercury, so on). It's much like eating tuna, but none of the taboos people have about food seem to apply to fish (with a couple of exceptions).
Also, the meat doesn't tend to taste as good as the meat of a herbivore (could be conditioning, but my dad has eaten fox, and says it is the foulest meat he's ever tasted).
Pigs are omnivores though- they'll eat carrion and even living things if they can, they're absolutely not fussy. I like them though. They're pretty smart, and much more interesting to work with than sheep (which I despise after working with them in research) and cows (which are easy to work with, but after taking an entire bladderfull of cow urine to the face, they have lost their appeal, somehow. Kids, work hard in school and become a scientist, and you too could be urinated on full force by a ruminant!)
Albatross wrote:Not a direct reply to the poster above, but it did make me think of something which always confuses me:
People who say that they're 'not into music'. I find that completely bizarre.
Since this relates to my point a little, I'll chime in:
I am someone who says this, and when I do, what I *really* mean is 'I do not lower myself to limiting my music choice for reasons of social constructs'
I mean, how do you answer? 'Oh I like rap.' I think it's supposed to say a lot about you when, really, I
A. Don't listen to music that much
B. Don't let it define me
C. Feel above any petty squabbles about genres.
Although ironically I seem to be pumping out words about just that. Hrm. Hypocrisy?
Well actually, I believe that the cultural products and texts we consume DO define us to a certain degree, whether that be music, modes of dress, sport, food... whatever. We create and consume culture as a means of defining, decoding and articulating our experience of life as human beings. As creatures of abstract thought, we create stores of symbols as a means of communication and expression, so the things we consume at a cultural level can be said to 'define' us, as each piece of music we choose to listen too, or pair of jeans we decide to wear on a certain day say something about us in the choosing of them. STANDARD CULTURAL THEORY CAVEAT: This is not always a conscious process.
Anyway, I digress. What I'm talking about is people like biccat, who claims not to be interested in any music at all (apologies if I'm misrepresenting you here, bic) - I just find that very odd, as a person who lives and breathes it. To me that's like saying you don't like acting or visual arts. I also find it weird when people say that they 'don't read books'.
Albatross wrote:Anyway, I digress. What I'm talking about is people like biccat, who claims not to be interested in any music at all (apologies if I'm misrepresenting you here, bic) - I just find that very odd, as a person who lives and breathes it. To me that's like saying you don't like acting or visual arts. I also find it weird when people say that they 'don't read books'.
I like music, I'm just not interested in it.
Note that I also don't really care for acting or visual arts. They're interesting as scenery or decoration, in a historical context (the Louvre has, to me, more value as a history lesson than any artistic value), or for telling a story (movies, TV). But I really could care less about how this artist used stippling while this artist used some other technique.
Then again, some people apparently don't care about patent law and that, after the American Invents Act, Chapter 35 of the US Code will still require disclosure of the best mode, but will not allow a defendant to raise best mode as part of a defense of invalidity. CRAZY!
Albatross wrote:Anyway, I digress. What I'm talking about is people like biccat, who claims not to be interested in any music at all (apologies if I'm misrepresenting you here, bic) - I just find that very odd, as a person who lives and breathes it. To me that's like saying you don't like acting or visual arts. I also find it weird when people say that they 'don't read books'.
I like music, I'm just not interested in it.
Note that I also don't really care for acting or visual arts. They're interesting as scenery or decoration, in a historical context (the Louvre has, to me, more value as a history lesson than any artistic value), or for telling a story (movies, TV). But I really could care less about how this artist used stippling while this artist used some other technique.
Then again, some people apparently don't care about patent law and that, after the American Invents Act, Chapter 35 of the US Code will still require disclosure of the best mode, but will not allow a defendant to raise best mode as part of a defense of invalidity. CRAZY!
Madness!
See, you're different to what I'm talking about, in that case. I've met people who only own like, 2 CDs, and claim not to like music really at all. That's weird. I can understand people not being particularly interested in it, but not liking it at all?
biccat wrote:
I like it, I'm just not interested in it.
I think I see what bic's saying Alb, I also say "I'm not into music" but I think your reading too much into what is essentially just an abbreviation meaning that you don't obsess over it. By saying your not "into" music nobody really means they don't listen to it do they? Every human has bought a cd for example at some point in their lives surely?!
Personally, what I mean by "I'm not into music" is...
"Like everyone I listen to quite alot of music, when I am driving or working out, or maybe doing housework or painting minis for example, but I really don't care where the band is from, how old the lead singer is, or what their influences are, and I wouldnt pay more than about $10 to go watch anyone play live, and I dont buy any of their merchandise and wouldnt be seen dead in a T-shirt with their name on"
Does that make more sense?
I mean, I have a very wide list of bands I like to listen to on occasion, and I listen to my mp3 player all the time, its got The Clash, Paul Simon,The Rolling Stones, Dire Straits, Blink 182, Bob Dylan, The Decemberists and about another 50 artists on it, but I always say "Im not into music" because im not into the whole "scene" that seems to go along with it. I love Elton John, but I wouldnt pay 50 quid to go and watch the fether.. I mean, I might go along if he was playing in the pub round the corner.. But only if it was free and it wasn't too expensive for a beer.
Oh and it wasnt too crowded either.
Ok well, I might not go anyway.
Case in point, my missus brother got us free backstage passes for Greenday (who I have liked since high school) in Manchester but I couldn't be arsed driving for an hour so we didn't go. I just thought "Ah and its full of annoying kids and its 4 quid for a gak pint so sack it"
To me, the above examples define doing the normal thing of listening to music, but not being "into" it, if that makes any sense.
Albatross wrote:No, I mean people who genuinely don't like it and don't listen to it. I have met people like that. I find them strange.
Oh well.. feth knows. I don't think I've ever met anyone who doesn't listen to at least something!
There is a dumb guy who work's with a friend of mine who is semi-literate, reads nothing, and doesn't like anything other than boozing, and even he listens to music, he told me he has "Bat out of Hell" by Meatloaf on single and he just plays it over and over again.
Albatross wrote:No, I mean people who genuinely don't like it and don't listen to it. I have met people like that. I find them strange.
That's understandable. I can't imagine why anyone would actually dislike music. I usually don't listen to it, but only because I'd rather listen to the news on the radio.
I do actually have a decent CD collection.
Albatross wrote:But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I think I see the heart of our problem. I don't mind the Beatles' music, really don't like the individuals. Especially Lennon.
Albatross wrote:No, I mean people who genuinely don't like it and don't listen to it. I have met people like that. I find them strange.
That's understandable. I can't imagine why anyone would actually dislike music. I usually don't listen to it, but only because I'd rather listen to the news on the radio.
I do actually have a decent CD collection.
Albatross wrote:But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I think I see the heart of our problem. I don't mind the Beatles' music, really don't like the individuals. Especially Lennon.
I've started listening to audio books as well as music when I paint. I've done a few good ones, and It makes a nice change.
And regards Lennon, I'm similar in that peoples personalities affect my judgement. Not as severely, because I will still listen to them, but not with any gusto, and Ill not spend any cash on their stuff.
People who criticize others for weary tight clothing.
People who bash on something without trying it out.
People who think that they are intellgent, then spend the day looking for way to troll Christians.
People who think that people who like Fantasy and Science Fiction are nerds.
People who try to be victims.
remilia_scarlet wrote:internet tough-guys are the most annoying and confusing, this is my general reaction to anyone trying to act badass over the internet:
Spoiler:
So you make a truck sink when that happens or you paint a picture?
remilia_scarlet wrote:internet tough-guys are the most annoying and confusing, this is my general reaction to anyone trying to act badass over the internet:
Spoiler:
So you make a truck sink when that happens or you paint a picture?
remilia_scarlet wrote:internet tough-guys are the most annoying and confusing, this is my general reaction to anyone trying to act badass over the internet:
Spoiler:
So you make a truck sink when that happens or you paint a picture?
Albatross wrote:
But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I really dislike the Beatles. It took a sex bribe for my ex to get me to watch Across the Universe. The music in which I actually ended up liking, and prefer to the original songs.
But then, distrusting me was the wisest thing you've done since you climbed off your horse.
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biccat wrote:I don't mind the Beatles' music, really don't like the individuals. Especially Lennon.
sebster wrote: Bronies. Most internet fads I kind of understand why and how they happened, even if I think it's pretty silly. I absolutely cannot begin to understand why young men started watching a show about ponies aimed a very young girls.
I think it's so they have something to talk about afterward.
I dont get dental floss. I do it every so often but it's ALOT of effort.
I dont get why people Need fancy mobile phones, bored? Read a book or like erm... Talk to someone?
I dont get why (young)people are so ashamed of Knowing stuff. Young people seem very afraid of sounding clever at least IRL. Weirdly my generation seem to be academically gifted but devoid of any trivia or interests.
Albatross wrote:I also find it weird when people say that they 'don't read books'.
I don't read books, not generally. I don't read much fiction, and very few academic texts need to be book length, and the ones that are tend to be collections of articles written by individual contributors, or heavily padded.
My favorite "artists" are Ringo Starr, Paul Stanley and Andrew Ridgeley. Guys who made a ton of money in the industry then got the hell out and are (except for Stanley) mostly living on the royalties.
Sports- Yes, you can chase a small piece of plastic around a field for an hour and a half- so why are you paid more than a guy with 25 patents and a PHD? (Not me, my dad)
Mac computers- I just can't get along with them
People who are incapable of walking quickly
Loud mobile phone users on the bus.
Genuinely, I dont give a toss if you are beefing with your bird, didnt get that job interview or wont be home for dinner at 6pm.
Just keep your bleedin' voice down, thanks.
sebster wrote:
People who insist, most strongly, that they could never eat a vegetarian meal. Not that they really like meat and don't want to give it up, that's fine, I like meat too. I mean people who claim the thought of eating a meal without meat somehow makes them ill. Did you put bacon on your corn flakes as a kid?
I've heard this too. I just bring up mac and cheese.
sebster wrote:
People who insist, most strongly, that they could never eat a vegetarian meal. Not that they really like meat and don't want to give it up, that's fine, I like meat too. I mean people who claim the thought of eating a meal without meat somehow makes them ill. Did you put bacon on your corn flakes as a kid?
I've heard this too. I just bring up mac and cheese.
Mac and Cheese is fething ace. Cheese can make anything taste good.
Seriously. Every few years I'll forget how annoyed I get by the talking, texting and other dildo-esque behavior from the reprobates in the theater that a preview will trick me into believing that it isn't as bad as I think. The sooner we can just get first run movies legally on the internet the better.
Seriously. Every few years I'll forget how annoyed I get by the talking, texting and other dildo-esque behavior from the reprobates in the theater that a preview will trick me into believing that it isn't as bad as I think. The sooner we can just get first run movies legally on the internet the better.
I used to hate the cinema so i started smuggling booze in and began acting like my enemies. Loud, obnoxious, crass.. i became that which i loathed, and it increased my pleasure immediately!
Seriously. Every few years I'll forget how annoyed I get by the talking, texting and other dildo-esque behavior from the reprobates in the theater that a preview will trick me into believing that it isn't as bad as I think. The sooner we can just get first run movies legally on the internet the better.
I used to hate the cinema so i started smuggling booze in and began acting like my enemies. Loud, obnoxious, crass.. i became that which i loathed, and it increased my pleasure immediately!
And it works great until some asshat you're with tries to see how far he can roll his empty bottle under the seats in front of you! JHC that's loud!
biccat wrote:
I think I see the heart of our problem. I don't mind the Beatles' music, really don't like the individuals. Especially Lennon.
I've never met any of them, plus Lennon died before I was born. He was (and remains) the greatest pop songwriter in history though, so I could probably forgive him anything.
Da Boss wrote:My mother doesn't like music- she's got a hearing problem and hears it as discordant noise. FWIW.
Y'know, I was going to mention this very thing. I read an article in New Scientist about tonal reception capacity in humans, and how people with zero pitch recognition often hate music for the very same reason as Ma Boss.
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dogma wrote:
Albatross wrote:
But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I really dislike the Beatles. It took a sex bribe for my ex to get me to watch Across the Universe. The music in which I actually ended up liking, and prefer to the original songs.
Seriously. Every few years I'll forget how annoyed I get by the talking, texting and other dildo-esque behavior from the reprobates in the theater that a preview will trick me into believing that it isn't as bad as I think. The sooner we can just get first run movies legally on the internet the better.
I used to hate the cinema so i started smuggling booze in and began acting like my enemies. Loud, obnoxious, crass.. i became that which i loathed, and it increased my pleasure immediately!
Son, let me introduce you to Alamo Drafthouse, with three pages of beer to choose from...
Albatross wrote:But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I really dislike the Beatles. It took a sex bribe for my ex to get me to watch Across the Universe. The music in which I actually ended up liking, and prefer to the original songs.
Bloody contrarian! I'll not rise to your bait.
Good day, sir.
I just had to pretend that I didn't read dogma saying that. I like him to much for there to be that kind of "Big Chill" that comes from someone not liking The Beatles.
/resumes forgetting that dogma doesn't like the band that wrote Let it Be and Here Comes the Sun.
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
I've noticed mostly Americans do it. Of course, that could just be because I interact with far more Americans than other nationalities on a daily basis. I always assumed the reason why we did it is because we lack historical nationality or culture.
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
I've noticed mostly Americans do it. Of course, that could just be because I interact with far more Americans than other nationalities on a daily basis. I always assumed the reason why we did it is because we lack historical nationality or culture.
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
I've noticed mostly Americans do it. Of course, that could just be because I interact with far more Americans than other nationalities on a daily basis. I always assumed the reason why we did it is because we lack historical nationality or culture.
I assumed that but i still don't understand it...
Well if you're from Kent, what the heck are you going to say? I'm from...Kent. All my people back to coconut eating diosaurs are from...Kent.
Whereas Frazzled can say my ancestors were kicked out of all countries all through Europe.
Albatross wrote:But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I really dislike the Beatles. It took a sex bribe for my ex to get me to watch Across the Universe. The music in which I actually ended up liking, and prefer to the original songs.
Bloody contrarian! I'll not rise to your bait.
Good day, sir.
I just had to pretend that I didn't read dogma saying that. I like him to much for there to be that kind of "Big Chill" that comes from someone not liking The Beatles.
/resumes forgetting that dogma doesn't like the band that wrote Let it Be and Here Comes the Sun.
To be fair, I used to really hate the Beatles. I think it mostly came from the fact that the songs played on the radio (or the ones your parents listen to over and over) tend to be the really poppy mindless lovey-dovey songs by McCartney.
But, as I grew older, I discovered all of their later or less played stuff. Lennon's songs generally are absolutely brilliant. And, anything by Harrison has shockingly great guitar parts (although the lyrics are usually pretty poor).
dogma, if you're up for giving them another shot, avoid anything from before Rubber Soul.
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
I've noticed mostly Americans do it. Of course, that could just be because I interact with far more Americans than other nationalities on a daily basis. I always assumed the reason why we did it is because we lack historical nationality or culture.
I assumed that but i still don't understand it...
Well if you're from Kent, what the heck are you going to say? I'm from...Kent. All my people back to coconut eating diosaurs are from...Kent.
Whereas Frazzled can say my ancestors were kicked out of all countries all through Europe.
Yeah but someone from Kent could have ancestors from anywhere...
Just like you're from Texas and have ancestors from Europe...
Grakmar wrote:
To be fair, I used to really hate the Beatles. I think it mostly came from the fact that the songs played on the radio (or the ones your parents listen to over and over) tend to be the really poppy mindless lovey-dovey songs by McCartney.
McCartney, in general, gets a very bad rap indeed. There's this perception that he just wrote all the sappy stuff, but actually, songs credited to Lennon and McCartney were written jointly by both. That's just the way they worked - eyeball to eyeball. One might have a bit of a melody or some chords, and the other would fill in the blanks. It's only on the White Album that this begins to change in any major way. Most of the psychedelic stuff on Sgt. Pepper's was co-written for example, and indeed, McCartney was deeper into the psychedelic scene in London than Lennon. He was regularly spotted at stuff like 14-hour Technicolour Dream and other 'happenings'.
dogma, if you're up for giving them another shot, avoid anything from before Rubber Soul.
Disregard that, the early stuff is great too, it's just different. I mean 'Ticket To Ride' is one of the greatest pop songs ever written, and it's on Help!, as is 'You've Got to Hide Your Love Away' and 'Yesterday'. There's some pretty mature songwriting going on there. Even the earlier stuff is pretty ground-breaking, poppy though it is. I would certainly NEVER call them mindless - it takes real genius to write simple pop songs that people keep coming back to decades after they were released. Hell if it was simple, we'd all do it - me included.
Girls that say they like you.
I am serious. A few girls say that in an extremely confused way. I laugh at it though.
When people send you messages on facebook and say "Oh wait sorry wrong person. "
When a girl asks "Why don't you talk to me? but when your around my friends you talk to them?" *looks at girl *points to head* laughs and then "What would you do if you were facing something that you don't want to face at that time?" "So your gay?"
"What its not like you are nerd or anything what would you understand about tabletop games?"
"Can I see your homework?"
"No."
"why?"
"You had study hall a period ago what the helk were you doing?"
"Nothing..."
High Schoolers that ask the same question over and over and over again...
People that don't listen to the teacher, when he said "You can use anything in this room for this test."
I walked up to the teacher asked for the answers. He gave them to me! And then I A+ the test because the Teacher was testing us!
When people say "Yo man you got alot of swag."
"No I don't. Stop using the word swag. You all live in Suburbs. In a High Middle class area!"
The girl that texts you while you are taking a test.
People that only use one door at school when there are three perfectly unused doors through the same hallway.
People that line up at high school blocking people from getting past them.
People that say "Hey cam can you not listen for thirty seconds I need to tell her something." (Thanks for telling me. )
When a girl says to stop talking to her on facebook. Then next day says "Why did you stop?" (Wha??)
When a nerd gets a new game they skip home in my area. (No joke)
When Asherian gets a new game he just stands there wondering why he just bought something.
When someone goes into third person.
Hippies. Whats up with that?
Nerd fights.
Jocks when they fail a test. "I don't know why I failed!" (I laugh slightly because they all crammed 5 units the night before the test.)
Asherian Command wrote:Girls that say they like you.
I am serious. A few girls say that in an extremely confused way. I laugh at it though.
When people send you messages on facebook and say "Oh wait sorry wrong person. "
When a girl asks "Why don't you talk to me? but when your around my friends you talk to them?" *looks at girl *points to head* laughs and then "What would you do if you were facing something that you don't want to face at that time?" "So your gay?"
"What its not like you are nerd or anything what would you understand about tabletop games?"
"Can I see your homework?"
"No."
"why?"
"You had study hall a period ago what the helk were you doing?"
"Nothing..."
High Schoolers that ask the same question over and over and over again...
People that don't listen to the teacher, when he said "You can use anything in this room for this test."
I walked up to the teacher asked for the answers. He gave them to me! And then I A+ the test because the Teacher was testing us!
When people say "Yo man you got alot of swag."
"No I don't. Stop using the word swag. You all live in Suburbs. In a High Middle class area!"
The girl that texts you while you are taking a test.
People that only use one door at school when there are three perfectly unused doors through the same hallway.
People that line up at high school blocking people from getting past them.
People that say "Hey cam can you not listen for thirty seconds I need to tell her something." (Thanks for telling me. )
When a girl says to stop talking to her on facebook. Then next day says "Why did you stop?" (Wha??)
When a nerd gets a new game they skip home in my area. (No joke)
When Asherian gets a new game he just stands there wondering why he just bought something.
When someone goes into third person.
Hippies. Whats up with that?
Nerd fights.
Jocks when they fail a test. "I don't know why I failed!" (I laugh slightly because they all crammed 5 units the night before the test.)
If you've got girl problems i feel bad for you son. I've got 99 problems but ladies ain't one...
Asherian Command wrote:Its more embrassing if it is the same girl... For most of those.
Guess it kinda went over your head then...
Not really. I didn't go over my head. She is pretty and she likes me. I am just weird around her. Even from my point of view. I don't do that around anyone else.
Also that is another thing.
People that act differently around women.... (Even me)
Asherian Command wrote:Its more embrassing if it is the same girl... For most of those.
Guess it kinda went over your head then...
Not really. I didn't go over my head. She is pretty and she likes me. I am just weird around her. Even from my point of view. I don't do that around anyone else.
Also that is another thing.
People that act differently around women.... (Even me)
hotsauceman1 wrote:Are you trying to troll bronies here?
Not at all. I’m just saying it’s a thing I don’t understand. I mean, how did it happen? Even if one guy just happened to sit down and this thing was on telly and he discovered he loved it, and instead of watching it in private afraid other people would make fun of him but instead went to the internet to tell everyone else how great this show is, how did he convince other young men to try the show? How did this happen so much that it became an internet phenomenon, and how did people go from watching the show to making so much art attaching it to various geek properties? How did the support become so fanatical?
.
How bronies happened. Someone criticised to show on 4chan because of its animation(it wad a paper) this convinced a few to watch the show for themselve. Obviously 4chan just doesnt give a crud s othey talked about it. it just grew from thre.
People who think a scientific theory, is theoretical and not fact. You don't believe in a scientific theory, you either choose to ignore it or its a fact. Its like someone saying i believe grass is green, not that i know it is.
People who give a theory/belief, then think its my job to disprove it. No. If you put forth something, you need to provide the proof to back it up. Im looking at you bible people...
Coolyo294 wrote:
Vitruvian XVII wrote:People who believe in God/any religion
People that wont listen to scientific FACT, despite the fact its a fact, because it doesn't suit them (eg. evolution)
People who dont agree with genetic breeding/stem cell research/ biofuel/anything that could be useful to humanity but is against so-called "morals"...
What if you believe in God and still believe in things like evolution?
You're free to believe what you want ofc, but it seems paradoxical to me.
Im a very scientific minded guy, theres absolutely no evidence for god whatsoever. Seems to me if you understand that evolution happened, it pretty much discontinues mcuh of the old testament.
sebster wrote:
People who insist, most strongly, that they could never eat a vegetarian meal. Not that they really like meat and don't want to give it up, that's fine, I like meat too. I mean people who claim the thought of eating a meal without meat somehow makes them ill. Did you put bacon on your corn flakes as a kid?
Bronies. Most internet fads I kind of understand why and how they happened, even if I think it's pretty silly. I absolutely cannot begin to understand why young men started watching a show about ponies aimed a very young girls.
Anyway, what leaves you scratching your head?
Wow, could you really be more intolerant? You obviously understand nothing about weightlifting and take yourself far too seriously.
I love these people who bash bronies. Do you not realize how absurd you appear when you do that? You're an offshoot of the internet tough guy, the "really mature internet guy". I'm so mature that not only do I not watch MLP, I actively insult it and its viewers.
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
Good one!
Add to that people who are three or more generations from having Scot or Irish descendants, who've never been to either country, who suddenly decide to wear a kilt for their wedding.
People who sign their posts. I mean really, if you've spent at least 10 minutes on an online forum ever, you'll know that almost always you see an avatar and a name to your left, and their post in the center spanning to the right. There is no reason what so ever to sign your name after a post. It's redundant.
Necroshea wrote:People who sign their posts. I mean really, if you've spent at least 10 minutes on an online forum ever, you'll know that almost always you see an avatar and a name to your left, and their post in the center spanning to the right. There is no reason what so ever to sign your name after a post. It's redundant.
Grakmar wrote:I don't get anyone who criticizes others based on their choice of product (XBox vs PS3), style (hipsters), music, or legal recreational activity. Really, how does other people's personal preferences matter to you?
Yeah, I don't get people who really, strongly identify with some mass consumer product or another. I used to wonder about this when it was Holden vs Ford (GM vs Ford in America). "I have built my identity around a purchasing decision". Same for XBox vs Playstation. I mean, it's weird when it's football teams or religion, but at least that might represent family or tradition, not just spending choices.
In fact, that's the worst thing about the whole hipster movement, it's all based around what people have chosen to buy.
I dont really get the sports team thing either, my dads crazy to the point where he wont even consider the other team played even remotely well.
Oh yeah, also Americans (sorry to generalise, but the US is the only place i see it) who say they like dubstep, when all theyve heard is 1 skrillex track. I mean come on, almost as bad as those who say anything that doesnt sound like skrillex isnt dubstep.
See, you're different to what I'm talking about, in that case. I've met people who only own like, 2 CDs, and claim not to like music really at all. That's weird. I can understand people not being particularly interested in it, but not liking it at all?
Yeah, I've met someone like that. It was so far outside of what I understood of normal human behaviour it took forever for me to get it.
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mattyrm wrote: I think I see what bic's saying Alb, I also say "I'm not into music" but I think your reading too much into what is essentially just an abbreviation meaning that you don't obsess over it. By saying your not "into" music nobody really means they don't listen to it do they? Every human has bought a cd for example at some point in their lives surely?!
Yeah, the examples you gave there are what I kept thinking this person meant when they said they weren't into music, but they actually, genuniely meant they just didn't get anything out of music. Like, you could put the radio on any station and it wouldn't matter to them, as one station is as good as any other, they barely notice it. As in, they own maybe two CDs, and they were given to them as birthday presents.
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Perkustin wrote:I dont get why people Need fancy mobile phones, bored? Read a book or like erm... Talk to someone?
I didn't get them either until I found out they had a GPS thing in them. As someone who is constantly lost this is a godsend.
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hotsauceman1 wrote:How bronies happened. Someone criticised to show on 4chan because of its animation(it wad a paper) this convinced a few to watch the show for themselve. Obviously 4chan just doesnt give a crud s othey talked about it. it just grew from thre.
Thanks for the effort in explaining it to me, but I'm not really sure that helped.
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Amaya wrote:Wow, could you really be more intolerant? You obviously understand nothing about weightlifting and take yourself far too seriously.
I don't much about weightlifting, including how it relates to anything in this thread.
I love these people who bash bronies. Do you not realize how absurd you appear when you do that? You're an offshoot of the internet tough guy, the "really mature internet guy". I'm so mature that not only do I not watch MLP, I actively insult it and its viewers.
What? I didn't bash bronies. When another poster asked that, I clarified that I was most definitely not bashing bronies. I was simply saying I don't understand how it came to be a thing.
Please read more carefully, and don't go looking for offense.
In your OP you insult anyone who refuses to eat a vegetarian meal. Unless you take massive amounts of supplements it is incredibly difficult to consume enough protein to build strength and muscle mass without eating meat.
Ignorance is forgivable, but why do you even care what other people eat? That's their decision.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:People who think a scientific theory, is theoretical and not fact. You don't believe in a scientific theory, you either choose to ignore it or its a fact. Its like someone saying i believe grass is green, not that i know it is.
People who give a theory/belief, then think its my job to disprove it. No. If you put forth something, you need to provide the proof to back it up. Im looking at you bible people...
Coolyo294 wrote:
Vitruvian XVII wrote:People who believe in God/any religion
People that wont listen to scientific FACT, despite the fact its a fact, because it doesn't suit them (eg. evolution)
People who dont agree with genetic breeding/stem cell research/ biofuel/anything that could be useful to humanity but is against so-called "morals"...
What if you believe in God and still believe in things like evolution?
You're free to believe what you want ofc, but it seems paradoxical to me.
Im a very scientific minded guy, theres absolutely no evidence for god whatsoever. Seems to me if you understand that evolution happened, it pretty much discontinues mcuh of the old testament.
I know the point of this thread isn't to get into arguments, but I felt the need to comment (this is one of the things that I do that confuses me):
1) Scientific theory is theory. It's all based on observation and assumptions that have been made based off of those observations. If the assumptions are false, then the theory falls apart. All you need to do is look throughout history at the "Scientific FACTS" and see how many have changed (eg. the Earth is flat) (then again, this is an assumption based on observation... so it's more of a theory I guess).
1) a) Previous experience does not necessarily mean that future experience will be the same. Just because gravity has worked for as long as I've been alive, does not necessarily mean that it will continue to 5 minutes from now.
1) b) Furthermore, since future events are unknown, the only way to know that any theory is a "scientific FACT" is to observe the entirety of the universe for all time, an inherent impossibility (and also problematic, as some atoms behave differently when observed and when not).
2) Nothing can be proven as true. You can only prove things false. So for something to be "true," all other possibilities must be proven false, which is inherently impossible as there are always additional possibilities.
2) a) Exception: pure definitions. A square is a square because that is what we call it.
2) b) Exception: math. Although I suppose this would fall under pure definitions.
3) Proving the lack o,f or existence of, a god is easy, it's all in the person's definition.
3) a) "God is the most powerful being in existence" is inherently true as the most powerful being in existence defaults to be God.
3) b) "God is the most powerful being that can be conceived" is inherently false, as I can always conceive of something more powerful.
3) c) The Christian God is enough of a paradox as to not be able to exist, assuming that the Bible is taken as complete truth (which, if you believe in Christendom, you have to).
4) Although I both do and don't believe in god (see 3 above), existence in of itself can be seen as proof of a god.
If my post was seen as trying to troll the religious, I did not intend it as such. I suppose I should have been more specific in 3.c. and said "the Christian god as put forth by the Christian church" although that's not much better. Although it does take me back to my post earlier in the thread where I think I said "organized religion"
Shrike325 wrote:If my post was seen as trying to troll the religious, I did not intend it as such. I suppose I should have been more specific in 3.c. and said "the Christian god as put forth by the Christian church" although that's not much better. Although it does take me back to my post earlier in the thread where I think I said "organized religion"
I guess mine would be people who use emoticons ad nauseum. Once in a while is fine. I usually use them when I feel like my words aren't accurately refelecting my tone e.g. using a smiley to show my statement is a joke not an insult.
But man people who need a XD :( -_- every 2 words is just...odd.
Amaya wrote:Unless you take massive amounts of supplements it is incredibly difficult to consume enough protein to build strength and muscle mass without eating meat.
That's not true at all. When considered in terms of grams of protein per calorie, many vegetables are actually much higher in protein than many meats. The problem isn't the amount of protein, its the amino acid composition of that protein.
Its hard to not eat meat in America for the same reason many poor people are fat. A quality diet requires money and knowledge.
Amaya wrote:In your OP you insult anyone who refuses to eat a vegetarian meal. Unless you take massive amounts of supplements it is incredibly difficult to consume enough protein to build strength and muscle mass without eating meat.
I would take a picture of myself to prove you wrong but I'm not that vain.
Protein shake, beans, eggs, peas, cheese, milk.
Gaining muscle as a vegetarian is no more difficult than for a meat-eater.
Amaya wrote:In your OP you insult anyone who refuses to eat a vegetarian meal. Unless you take massive amounts of supplements it is incredibly difficult to consume enough protein to build strength and muscle mass without eating meat.
Ignorance is forgivable, but why do you even care what other people eat? That's their decision.
You're joking, right?
That's not what he wrote at all. He said he couldn't understand people who claim they could NEVER eat/enjoy a vegetarian meal. There really are people that silly out there. That's a whole different concept from people who choose to eat meat most (or even all) of the time but are willing to acknowledge and accept that they could eat and enjoy a meatless meal if they wanted to, or the situation called for it, socially.
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Albatross wrote:
dogma wrote:
Albatross wrote:But then, I find it hard to trust people who don't like the Beatles. Perhaps that makes ME strange...
I really dislike the Beatles. It took a sex bribe for my ex to get me to watch Across the Universe. The music in which I actually ended up liking, and prefer to the original songs.
Bloody contrarian! I'll not rise to your bait.
Good day, sir.
I just had to pretend that I didn't read dogma saying that. I like him to much for there to be that kind of "Big Chill" that comes from someone not liking The Beatles.
/resumes forgetting that dogma doesn't like the band that wrote Let it Be and Here Comes the Sun.
I'm with you both. I respect dogma's thoughts on a lot of stuff, but in this department he be crazy. Though he's right to like Across the Universe. That rocked. I think the only kind of weak rendition on the whole thing is Blackbird (although I am refusing to acknowledge For the Benefit of Mr. Kite.). Fantastic flick, as are all of Julie Taymor's that I've seen.
Amaya wrote:In your OP you insult anyone who refuses to eat a vegetarian meal. Unless you take massive amounts of supplements it is incredibly difficult to consume enough protein to build strength and muscle mass without eating meat.
Ignorance is forgivable, but why do you even care what other people eat? That's their decision.
Of course. I didn't say otherwise, in fact I said this; "People who insist, most strongly, that they could never eat a vegetarian meal. Not that they really like meat and don't want to give it up, that's fine, I like meat too. I mean people who claim the thought of eating a meal without meat somehow makes them ill. Did you put bacon on your corn flakes as a kid?"
My puzzlement is with people who simply would not eat a meal because it lacks meat, for no other reason than that it lacks meat. At no point did I state or imply that people on specific diets, such as someone on a high protein diet was bizarre. No, I simply said people who will only consider a meal if it has meat in it, for no other reason than because a meal ought to have meat in it according to them, make no sense to me.
Why you chose to interpret my statement that any and all people who only eat meals of meat, for any possible reason, is quite the puzzle.
In fact, that brings me to another thing that always puzzles me, people who think they're making a good point by taking another person's post in the most ridiculous manner possible. Why do these people act like that? What do they think they're achieving, in getting the other person to repeat their point they have, at best, just wasted five minutes of everyone's time, and at worst made themselves look like they're incapable of basic reading comprehension.
Given you decided to take such an action in this thread Amaya, can you explain why you chose to read into my post that I thought athletes on strict diets were puzzling, just like people who simply refuse to eat a meal with meat in it?
sebster wrote:
In fact, that brings me to another thing that always puzzles me, people who think they're making a good point by taking another person's post in the most ridiculous manner possible. Why do these people act like that? What do they think they're achieving, in getting the other person to repeat their point they have, at best, just wasted five minutes of everyone's time, and at worst made themselves look like they're incapable of basic reading comprehension.
I hate that most of all, its closely related to the slippery slope argument we see on dakka on a daily basis.
"If we legalise gay marriage, people will start marrying donkeys and raping babies!"
You made an ignorant sweeping statement and are now attempting to claim otherwise. No, I would never eat a vegetarian meal, not even for a social function. Likewise, I would never try to force a vegan or vegetarian to eat meat or for that matter questioning why they refuse to do so.
Insinuating that such people "put bacon on their cornflakes" is asinine. A more intelligent question would be, "did you put milk on your cereal?" There are vegetarians who do drink milk, but there are many (and vegans) who don't. Technically, cereal with milk is not a vegetarian meal making your query rather pointless.
I'd also like to point out that you contradict yourself in your OP.
"People increasing their hostility to something the more popular it gets. Like the mass of hatred that followed Avatar, which at worst could be called very well made but bland... that somehow sent some people into fits absolute hatred because, near as I can tell, it was really popular"
"Bronies. Most internet fads I kind of understand why and how they happened, even if I think it's pretty silly. I absolutely cannot begin to understand why young men started watching a show about ponies aimed a very young girls."
And if MLP wasn't popular and all over the internet would you even care?
This confuses me.
How do you make a coin celebrating the killing of a human being(albeit one of the worse)
Seriously this is kindof a big middle finger and just kinda overly jingoistic. And profiting from 9/11
We must be the only country tht trys to make money off terrorism
How do you make a coin celebrating the killing of a human being(albeit one of the worse)
If one doesn't follow the belief that human life is always sacred, regardless of whatever actions that human took, I would think it's pretty understandable.
Amaya wrote:You made an ignorant sweeping statement and are now attempting to claim otherwise.
No, I didn’t. I said I don’t understand why people would limit themselves in the food they eat. That’s it. Nothing more. Everything else is just weirdness in your head.
No, I would never eat a vegetarian meal, not even for a social function.
You wouldn’t each such a meal out of a conviction that it wouldn’t have the dietary requirements you need, or because you just don’t want to eat something that doesn’t have meat in it? Because the former makes sense, the latter is just plain bizarre.
I mean, if I was at a friend’s house and my friend asked if I’d like to eat some of the dinner he’s just cooked, I’d try it. I think most every person on the planet would try it, unless they had a very specific reason not to. Most of those reasons would make good sense, they’d be dietary requirements, either it had something the person can’t consume (maybe nuts or meat products), or it might have something in it they won’t eat for personal or moral reasons (one or all kinds of meat), or as you already pointed out it might lack something that person is trying to get in every meal they eat, like a certain amount of protein.
But one answer I’ve come across a couple of times is that they won’t eat the meal because it doesn’t have meat. This is a completely bizarre thing that I cannot get my head around. It’s the same as saying I won’t try it because it doesn’t have mint in it. It’s just a completely bizarre reason to deny one’s self a whole variety of foods.
Likewise, I would never try to force a vegan or vegetarian to eat meat or for that matter questioning why they refuse to do so.
You’ve done it again. I never said anyone should be forced to eat vegetarian dishes, that’s just something you’ve made up in your brain, and then set about pretending I believe. I simply said it’s very strange that people would decline to eat a meal if it didn’t include meat.
Insinuating that such people "put bacon on their cornflakes" is asinine. A more intelligent question would be, "did you put milk on your cereal?" There are vegetarians who do drink milk, but there are many (and vegans) who don't. Technically, cereal with milk is not a vegetarian meal making your query rather pointless.
No, that would be incoherent nonsense, as we are not looking to understand the dietary limitations of a vegetarian or vegan, which are not very hard to understand, but to understand those of someone who only eats meat based foods. In which case, we can assume they eat, or at least used to eat, cereal in the morning, and we have to wonder if they found themselves craving meat to be added to that meal.
And if MLP wasn't popular and all over the internet would you even care?
No.
Obviously MLP becoming popular among young men caused me to care, because my question is ‘how did a show aimed at one audience, preteen girls, become wildly popular with another, young adult men’. If it hadn’t become popular among young adult men, I wouldn’t have had a question to ask.
There is no judgement in there, just puzzlement over a really weird bit of demographics. It’d be no different to me discovering that the core audience, and the most fanatical viewers, of, say, Seinfeld, was actually black women in their 70s, because you just wouldn’t think that show would have something that specifically appealed to that audience. It wouldn’t cause me to think any more, or any less, of black women in their 70s who watch Seinfeld, but it’d weird that they became the show’s core audience.
I shouldn’t have to be finding a third way to explain any of the above, and yet I typed all that out. Because you’ve decided to be ridiculous, and pick a fight with someone on the internet. Please take a step back, think about what I’ve actually written, and ask yourself what your actual complaint here is.
Yeah i have to agree with Seb there mate.. Im the ultra carnivorous man who has meat in almost every dish.. but i don't see your point, i mean ideological reasons aside taste dictates doesn't it? You can't say you wouldnt eat something just because it's meat free surely? Would you not eat a meal you loved the taste of just because it was meat free?
Ice cream has no meat in it.. and everyone likes ice cream!
purplefood wrote:Actually a genuine one.
I don't get people who claim they are of a nationality that is 4/5 generations away...
I find it kinda weird...
I've noticed mostly Americans do it. Of course, that could just be because I interact with far more Americans than other nationalities on a daily basis. I always assumed the reason why we did it is because we lack historical nationality or culture.
I assumed that but i still don't understand it...
Well if you're from Kent, what the heck are you going to say? I'm from...Kent. All my people back to coconut eating diosaurs are from...Kent.
T'would depend if you're a man of Kent or a Kentish man really.
Amaya, why are you so mad? This is a thread about things we personally don't understand. Seb doesn't understand people who refuse to eat a meal without meat in it. If you'd come in and said 'well, some people only eat meals with meat in them because they're trying to build mass as part of weightlifting regime' that could have been an interesting discussion. Instead, you said 'you obviously don't understand weightlifting', apropos of nothing.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:People who think a scientific theory, is theoretical and not fact.
Heh.
Samus_aran115 wrote:I don't understand why people can be republicans
What I don't understand is how people can disagree with me.
Asherian Command wrote:Not really. I didn't go over my head. She is pretty and she likes me. I am just weird around her. Even from my point of view. I don't do that around anyone else.
You should hit it. Like the fist of an angry god.
Asherian Command wrote:People that act differently around women.... (Even me)
I think you mean "Women confuse me." Don't worry, we all feel that way. My wife agrees with me.
But one answer I’ve come across a couple of times is that they won’t eat the meal because it doesn’t have meat. This is a completely bizarre thing that I cannot get my head around. It’s the same as saying I won’t try it because it doesn’t have mint in it. It’s just a completely bizarre reason to deny one’s self a whole variety of foods.
Or, like myself, I find the taste of the majority of vegetables to be quite disgusting.
People who think a scientific theory, is theoretical and not fact.
No theory is fact. Its theoretical. Thats why its called a theory. Evolution, an example you used, is not fact. There is a massive wealth of evidence for it, that it can be widely believed...but its not fact.
hotsauceman1 wrote:This confuses me.
How do you make a coin celebrating the killing of a human being(albeit one of the worse)
Seriously this is kindof a big middle finger and just kinda overly jingoistic. And profiting from 9/11
We must be the only country tht trys to make money off terrorism
Does the other side of the coin have Dale Earnhardt, hallowed be his name, who died for your sins, painted on by Thomas Kincade?
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hotsauceman1 wrote:This confuses me.
How do you make a coin celebrating the killing of a human being(albeit one of the worse)
Seriously this is kindof a big middle finger and just kinda overly jingoistic. And profiting from 9/11
We must be the only country tht trys to make money off terrorism
Does the other side of the coin have Dale Earnhardt, hallowed be his name, who died for your sins, painted on by Thomas Kincade?
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Amaya wrote:You made an ignorant sweeping statement and are now attempting to claim otherwise. No, I would never eat a vegetarian meal, not even for a social function. Likewise, I would never try to force a vegan or vegetarian to eat meat or for that matter questioning why they refuse to do so.
Insinuating that such people "put bacon on their cornflakes" is asinine. A more intelligent question would be, "did you put milk on your cereal?" There are vegetarians who do drink milk, but there are many (and vegans) who don't. Technically, cereal with milk is not a vegetarian meal making your query rather pointless.
There are vegetarian who don't drink milk like there are meat eaters who don't drink milk. Milk is a vegetarian product, cereal with milk is vegetarian unless you're eating bacon flakes.
Frazzled wrote:Er, no its not. Milk is as vegetarian as steak.
This is what confuses me.
Spending my life being told by meat eaters what is vegetarian when it's really simple.
Is milk a dead animal?
No.
Then it's vegetarian.
profesional Football-its a bunch of apes who have been trained to kick a ball. WHY IN CHAOS`S NAME DO THEY GET PAYED MILLIONS!!!!!!!!
DnD haters.
WHFB and 40K nerds who think DnD is a really nerdy game and go on to really grind DnD players into the dirt
CHAVS-there are very few good chavs..... i mean just because you walk around in your huddys and trackies and try to act "hard" and "tough" dosnt mean you have the right to put others in the dirt. Especialy Goths-Just because we are different from your feral "street nazism" as i like to call it dosnt make you lower than you. rather the opposite actualy.
snobs and posh rich spoiled kids who think that the sun shines out of their pamperd arses.
justin beiber. oh how i hate him/her/it
Bullies. I HATE BULLIES
Frazzled wrote:Er, no its not. Milk is as vegetarian as steak.
This is what confuses me.
Spending my life being told by meat eaters what is vegetarian when it's really simple.
Is milk a dead animal?
No.
Then it's vegetarian.
Frazzled wrote:Er, no its not. Milk is as vegetarian as steak.
This is what confuses me.
Spending my life being told by meat eaters what is vegetarian when it's really simple.
Is milk a dead animal?
No.
Then it's vegetarian.
Is it a dead plant?
No.
Then its not.
Mushrooms aren't dead plants...
Neither is seaweed.
Vegetarianism is defined by the exclusion of meat, not the inclusion of plant-based food.
Get fething real naked mountainlion wrestler. If it uses photosynthesis its a plant for vegetarian purposes. If you're saying its not a plant, well then you're not being a vegetarian now are you.
Please go back to your mountain lion back breaking with your bare hands.
No. Algea reproduces using spores and is completely different other than photosynthesis.
A quick google search will show you this.
Anyway, mushrooms definitely aren't.
mattyrm wrote:He said he was going to rape me.. that's pretty wrong right there!
Well, I mean, the way you were dressed you were practically begging for it.
If man rape is wrong, I dont wanna be right!
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At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles.
My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy.
Thi confuses me. I was listning to the radiio. I heard the name
Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr.
How do they not just call him the third? Or his Jr. part of his name. Now i dont follow nascar because i have better things and have a high IQ but this just confuses.
'The Third' has connotations of elitism and WASP-ish east coast aristocracy.
'Junior-Junior' suggests a humbleness of origins and grammatically incorrectness that fits in better with the 'two first names' crowd that make up NASCAR's target demographic.
FWIW, I only know two 'The Third' people; one was a complete douchebag, the other was a nice down-to-earth guy... definitely more of a Junior-Junior in my mind.
sourclams wrote:'The Third' has connotations of elitism and WASP-ish east coast aristocracy.
'Junior-Junior' suggests a humbleness of origins and grammatically incorrectness that fits in better with the 'two first names' crowd that make up NASCAR's target demographic.
FWIW, I only know two 'The Third' people; one was a complete douchebag, the other was a nice down-to-earth guy... definitely more of a Junior-Junior in my mind.
I was going to suggest it was because hillbillies can't count that high.
No silly, the people at Nascar events! Even the ones that are driving real fast and turn to the left.....
Which, as boring as it is, still remains a better sport to watch than MLB.
I'm no NASCAR fan (since I'm not an inbred redneck, apparently a necessary precondition), but I fething hate baseball with a passion.
You've managed to find something I can agree with you on! MLB does suck!
Too me, All sports suck unless you are actually playng them
Also this confuses me. Why do teachers make custom books that have something special in them for their class that can only be baought at the school bookstore. This way i am forced to buy the books from the overpriced bookstore.
No silly, the people at Nascar events! Even the ones that are driving real fast and turn to the left.....
Which, as boring as it is, still remains a better sport to watch than MLB.
I'm no NASCAR fan (since I'm not an inbred redneck, apparently a necessary precondition), but I fething hate baseball with a passion.
You've managed to find something I can agree with you on! MLB does suck!
Too me, All sports suck unless you are actually playng them
Also this confuses me. Why do teachers make custom books that have something special in them for their class that can only be baought at the school bookstore. This way i am forced to buy the books from the overpriced bookstore.
No silly, the people at Nascar events! Even the ones that are driving real fast and turn to the left.....
Which, as boring as it is, still remains a better sport to watch than MLB.
I'm no NASCAR fan (since I'm not an inbred redneck, apparently a necessary precondition), but I fething hate baseball with a passion.
You've managed to find something I can agree with you on! MLB does suck!
Too me, All sports suck unless you are actually playng them
Also this confuses me. Why do teachers make custom books that have something special in them for their class that can only be baought at the school bookstore. This way i am forced to buy the books from the overpriced bookstore.
You asnwered your own question. $$$$
Yet those same teachers complain about how tuition is going up.
No silly, the people at Nascar events! Even the ones that are driving real fast and turn to the left.....
Which, as boring as it is, still remains a better sport to watch than MLB.
I'm no NASCAR fan (since I'm not an inbred redneck, apparently a necessary precondition), but I fething hate baseball with a passion.
You've managed to find something I can agree with you on! MLB does suck!
Too me, All sports suck unless you are actually playng them
Also this confuses me. Why do teachers make custom books that have something special in them for their class that can only be baought at the school bookstore. This way i am forced to buy the books from the overpriced bookstore.
You asnwered your own question. $$$$
Yet those same teachers complain about how tuition is going up.
Right. Tuition going up doesn't give them more money. You having to go buy their books gives them money directly.
The real moneygrabbers are the professors that put a "new" edition out every year or two. Forces their students to buy new books rather than used and all they do is change around page numbers.
Necroshea wrote:People who sign their posts. I mean really, if you've spent at least 10 minutes on an online forum ever, you'll know that almost always you see an avatar and a name to your left, and their post in the center spanning to the right. There is no reason what so ever to sign your name after a post. It's redundant.
I don't really understand why people can become fanatical for a cause.
I dunno, I guess I'm just not that kind of person. But yeah, when I see, say, Christian Fundamentalists screaming about gay people, Socialist agitators howling about the greed of the borgeoise or radical Greenies yelling about how everybody who uses a car is a demon, I can't help but wonder if they'd be happier just chilling out with a beverage of their choice, or maybe a friendly game of pool.
I'll echo the "women" bit. I mean, really, you're in a relationship, and you're flirting more with me than you do/did with your boyfriend. And that's just the tip of an iceberg that makes the bane of the Titanic look like something I dropped in a glass at dinner.
DutchKillsRambo wrote:Why people in SUV's seem to feel their car can stop better in the snow than normal car? Maybe there is slight differences but I dunno. Seems to me I see more 4x4's in the ditch than any other. Pure anecdotal evidence btw.
When i first came to Canada, my parents were buying cars. They were told by the sales person that
SUV generally have 4 wheel drive, designed for all year, tougher incase crashes, and heavier for more traction.
People that think more traction means they can drive 60 in a blizzard with no consequences.
Women who, when I hold a door for them, tell me "I can do it myself" or "I don't need men to hold doors for me, thanks". Listen hag, I hold the door for anyone that is going through the dorr at the same time, it's called being polite.
Slarg232 wrote:Oh I don't think women understand me, either.
But then....
Nobody understands me
Avatar 720 wrote:I don't understand women, and they probably don't understand me (not many people do), so it balances out.
Aw, look. it's DakkaMatch.com!
That would depend on Slarg being Bisexual or Homosexual, being attracted to me, and being willing to cross the ocean, because I refuse to step foot on a winged tube of metal filled with loads of other people flying thousands of feet above a vast sea, and relying on nothing going wrong, and things tend to go wrong around me.
Monster Rain wrote:DakkaMatch.com. Where the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
alarmingrick wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:DakkaMatch.com. Where the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
That's like business card good!
It is, well done
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mattyboy22 wrote:Women who, when I hold a door for them, tell me "I can do it myself" or "I don't need men to hold doors for me, thanks". Listen hag, I hold the door for anyone that is going through the dorr at the same time, it's called being polite.
This too. Also people who seem to think you're a doorman or just doing it for fun. I don't have time to wait for all of you, someone take over so I can leave!
mattyboy22 wrote:
Women who, when I hold a door for them, tell me "I can do it myself" or "I don't need men to hold doors for me, thanks". Listen hag, I hold the door for anyone that is going through the dorr at the same time, it's called being polite.
At some instincual level, holding the door open for someone is a proposition for intercourse.
mattyboy22 wrote: Women who, when I hold a door for them, tell me "I can do it myself" or "I don't need men to hold doors for me, thanks". Listen hag, I hold the door for anyone that is going through the dorr at the same time, it's called being polite.
I was 12 and going into a grocery store's front door. I saw an older lady(40 something) and held the door for her. She called me a "male chauvinist pig". I was 12. I didn't understand anything but that she was a bitch.
alarmingrick wrote:
I was 12 and going into a grocery store's front door. I saw an older lady(40 something) and held the door for her. She called me a "male chauvinist pig". I was 12. I didn't understand anything but that she was a bitch.
A couple years ago I took my girlfriend on a week long trip for her birthday. I don't remember exactly how much I spent, but something upwards 2k USD. It was basically 7 "birthday dates" (Expensive meals, expensive activities, etc.) in a row. It was ridiculously extravagant, but I had just taken a second job (of a sort) and was in the "Holy gak, disposable income!" phase.
After I told her (3 weeks in advance) what we were doing, she refused to speak to me for 2 days because not letting her pay for anything (Not that she could have, being a student.) was "chauvinist".
alarmingrick wrote:
I was 12 and going into a grocery store's front door. I saw an older lady(40 something) and held the door for her. She called me a "male chauvinist pig". I was 12. I didn't understand anything but that she was a bitch.
A couple years ago I took my girlfriend on a week long trip for her birthday. I don't remember exactly how much I spent, but something upwards 2k USD. It was basically 7 "birthday dates" (Expensive meals, expensive activities, etc.) in a row. It was ridiculously extravagant, but I had just taken a second job (of a sort) and was in the "Holy gak, disposable income!" phase.
After I told her (3 weeks in advance) what we were doing, she refused to speak to me for 2 days because not letting her pay for anything (Not that she could have, being a student.) was "chauvinist".
Mate your like casanova!
I've got disposable income.. I still get my missus a bag of cheetos for her birthday!
They legalise paintball, ban airsoft, and ban any sort of Live action roleplay on the grounds that it would encourage people to fight each other.
When I can kick the living daylights out of someone in my Ninjitsu dojo just 15 minutes up the road from me.
You can't buy pistols or rifles, except from the government. You can only buy ammunition from accredited dealers who all are in the metropolitan area....
They legalise paintball, ban airsoft, and ban any sort of Live action roleplay on the grounds that it would encourage people to fight each other.
When I can kick the living daylights out of someone in my Ninjitsu dojo just 15 minutes up the road from me.
You can't buy pistols or rifles, except from the government. You can only buy ammunition from accredited dealers who all are in the metropolitan area....
Why people go onto threads obviously not concerning them (I.e. Brony threads) and commenting things such as "WTH is wrong with you?!?!?", and more along those lines. Hey, I don;t go onto your football (English) thread and say "You're messed up in the head, watching 22 fully grown men, with a combined IQ lower than that of one said animated horse, chase a ball around a muddy pitch all day."
Honestly, it isn't trolling, it's called being a donkey cave. Why do people do it? I honestly cannot fathom it. I guess to induce nerdrage, but that would be like trying to turn a GK to Chaos.
We have people who fly confederate flags and have SS tattoos in my town. I live in a little town in california and as far as I know we did not fight for the south in the civil war and I am fairly sure we did not fight for germany in WWII.
So now I go around town and steal confederate flags off trucks and houses
Johnny-Crass wrote:We have people who fly confederate flags and have SS tattoos in my town. I live in a little town in california and as far as I know we did not fight for the south in the civil war and I am fairly sure we did not fight for germany in WWII.
So now I go around town and steal confederate flags off trucks and houses
Y'know its funny the so called "Confederate Flag" isnt even the flaf og the confederacy. It was the flag of a small regiment near the end of the war.
But yeah. How did a flag of hatred that is thought to be the flag of an army that fought for their right to own people and make them work for them considered a point of pride.
Nerivant wrote:People who are willing to maintain an illusion in the face of damning evidence.
One of my best mates is a devout Catholic, I dont even want to tell you how many times we have had the "evolution is a proven fact" argument, and not even "the pope said so too!" is good enough for him.
The Pope is a foolish old man when it comes to Science apparently.
Johnny-Crass wrote:We have people who fly confederate flags and have SS tattoos in my town. I live in a little town in california and as far as I know we did not fight for the south in the civil war and I am fairly sure we did not fight for germany in WWII.
So now I go around town and steal confederate flags off trucks and houses
2 reasons.
Rural California actively attempts to out white trash the south.
White X cons tend to have a lot of white supremacy tattoos even if they are not racist. They will often tend to join white supremacy prison gangs regardless of what their opinions are of racism or other races. The fact is whites are an oppressed minority in prison (26% of the CA prison population), and the white supremacy gangs to have great recruitment incentives: Join us and we won't knock your teeth out, shank you, rape you, kill you, and give you AIDS, not necessarily in any particular order. California prisons are so overcrowded that the inmates run the system, and the system breeds racism.
No silly, the people at Nascar events! Even the ones that are driving real fast and turn to the left.....
Which, as boring as it is, still remains a better sport to watch than MLB.
I'm no NASCAR fan (since I'm not an inbred redneck, apparently a necessary precondition), but I fething hate baseball with a passion.
You've managed to find something I can agree with you on! MLB does suck!
Too me, All sports suck unless you are actually playng them
Also this confuses me. Why do teachers make custom books that have something special in them for their class that can only be baought at the school bookstore. This way i am forced to buy the books from the overpriced bookstore.
You asnwered your own question. $$$$
Yet those same teachers complain about how tuition is going up.
mattyboy22 wrote:
Women who, when I hold a door for them, tell me "I can do it myself" or "I don't need men to hold doors for me, thanks". Listen hag, I hold the door for anyone that is going through the dorr at the same time, it's called being polite.
I hold the door open for women all the time and I have never once had a single one react in any way other than pleasant surprise. Frankly, I'm not sure how I would respond to this.
. I hate them, but at least I understand them.
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