Hello people and welcome to my P&M blog! I'm very new to the hobby/game which is 40k and so far this will be dedicated to all my painting/modeling attempts and projects as I try to piece together my first playable 40k army.
My first choice in army has been Chaos undivided! The mighty CSM

I would like all the criticism, hints and ideas anyone and everyone is willing to share with me on the models I post or techniques I use/attempt to use [or could use] as I try to gain my footing in all this.

My resources are limited but I'm going to give it my all, I hope to eventually do a butt load of conversions and stuff outside of CSM but I'm going to try and not get ahead of myself here lol.

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i know i need better lighting for my pictures, im going to try and work something out for the next batch of photos i take.

the Following models are what i have so far.





the gray primed are to try different paint schemes, not to sure what colors ill be using as of yet but since i have no paints or brushes i think ill have enough time to figure it out.

this is my idea so far. the purple/gray im thinking of using as my basic colors and the purple/black for my champions.im toying with the idea of using a deep/darker red instead of purple. dont mind opinions.

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Conversion of Space wolf Logan Grimnar into Chaos Terminator Lord. His left arm is still off im waiting to get a arm to put a Twin Linked Bolter on him. the spear is a Daemon weapon of course. =D





Thats all i got for now, my progress might be really slow and i might do things abit backward but i hope to improve.

Thank you for your time

Excellent stuff loving the look i wanna see some paint!

I like the idea of using space wolfs bits on chaos..might have to steal the idea. Good luck.

First off, welcome to the game!

It looks like you're off to a great start so far. My one suggestion would be to try and chaos up the lord just a little bit more. He's starting to look really good, but he still seems too space-wolfish to me.

As for paint, Boltgun Metal and Badab Black are your friend. A basecoat of that over primer will get the metallic look you're looking for, and you can do the yellow/gold and pink/purple over that. Good luck!

th3maninblak wrote:First off, welcome to the game!

It looks like you're off to a great start so far. My one suggestion would be to try and chaos up the lord just a little bit more. He's starting to look really good, but he still seems too space-wolfish to me.

As for paint, Boltgun Metal and Badab Black are your friend. A basecoat of that over primer will get the metallic look you're looking for, and you can do the yellow/gold and pink/purple over that. Good luck!

thank you for your comments, that will really help me when i get to my painting.
when it comes to putting more chaos into my terminator lord i can understand where your coming from, i just find it hard on deciding what to add onto him.

Try to find some space marine or eldar heads to stick on spikes all over his armor. Really drive home the point that this dude has killed millions, and is SERIOUSLY not to be messed with

good idea th3maninblak ill look into getting some heads to make trophy's


+update+

Okay well today i got my first paints and paint brushes! after spending a few hours at my local shop chatting it up with other players and watching a game i was so hyped up i painted my very first miniature! my hands are not the steadiest but i tried to make it look right. i used the above color scheme idea but substituted the purple for red.

i used Shining Gold, Gore red, Boltgun metal, Skull white, Mithril silver and scorpion green.
please share any and all opinions on it.








the green in the eye is spilling over a little due to trying to put a line along a accidental scratch turned into minor battle damage that just doesn't show well lol. btw given i intended this to be 'paint fodder' i didnt spend a lot of time filing down the marks from the sprue and being enthusiastic i didnt realize it while painting until it was too late. i would love to hear opinions on the color scheme itself as well as the paint job.

thanks for your time i hope to have more to show more sooner than later.

It's pretty good, even though its quick and only uses one shade per colour. I'm sure that when you get access to more shades it'll look even better.

Badab black will do some easy shading and lowlighting for you. It'll also make your colors blend in a bit more, instead of being a little on the stark side. Your hands will steady up in time, so don't worry about that

Over all, pretty darn good. Definitely better than my first models!

th3maninblak wrote:Badab black will do some easy shading and low lighting for you. It'll also make your colors blend in a bit more, instead of being a little on the stark side. Your hands will steady up in time, so don't worry about that

Over all, pretty darn good. Definitely better than my first models!

thanks for the advice
im glad it came out halfway decent but as a friend has pointed out they look a little 'Iron Warriors' which wasnt my intention in the least but i guess thats not a bad thing.
i most definitely want to explore washes.

Painted my 'paint fodder'
~Before

~After


wanted to see what they look like in a group. seen nice paint jobs seem 'off' when applied to groups but i think my scheme looks descent enough.

tried to do some effect on the horns to make it look like bone.

so far im working on some raptors, CSM and a Predator tank. so well see where that all goes

Looks like your hands are getting steadier. If you need a TL bolter for the terminator lord, just glue 2 bolters together XD

Seriously, even in the fluff it says that TL bolters are just two guns welded together. I really like the paint scheme, should look really sick on the tabletop.

I really like the color sceme, it suits them well. If you keep this up, you will have a great looking army that will be an honor to play against.

Agreed, they're looking good. But might I suggest a bit of red on the legs? Would help tie the entire model together.

Not bad, a wash maybe good here, badab black?

@tortured-robot
Thanks for the idea, I'm working on getting some wash now

@sword wind
Red on the legs? Seems interesting, I was playing with the idea of red on the chest or boots but not the legs. Gave me something to think about thanks.

@the3maninblak
That helps, I'll see if I have a couple bolters around in my bitz pile.

@imperial renegade
I totally hope to play a game with yah. Still hate I missed watching your game before
One day

okay well here are my Chaos Raptors, they need some paint and of course jump packs but other than that i think there great

to be honest im not to familiar with all the looks of the weapons and alot of my stuff comes 2nd hand so i often have problems telling a flamethrower from a meltgun and bolt pistol from plasma pistol so from time to time i might ask what a certain weapon is so if people more knowledgeable than myself would please answer my questions i would greatly appreciate it.

So far there are 1X camp w/ Powersword, 3X Flamers, 1X Bolt pistol and i think 2X Meltguns.
but im not to sure about the 2nd meltgun.
well here are the pictures =D








[not sure about the above raptors weapon]

From what I can tell the weapons loadouts are correct.

Seems about right. Those are some old school sick looking raptors. You need some standard BP/CCW dudes though.

th3maninblak wrote:Seems about right. Those are some old school sick looking raptors. You need some standard BP/CCW dudes though.

i plan on getting some of the newer raptors and using most of them with standard wargear. to be honest im not to sure on how many to keep standard but so far that was my plan going into building my raptor squads.

yeah i like the older ones better, a lot of human flesh on those models

thanks th3maninblak & swordwind for confirming the weapons for me ill try to remember the differences not to be a bother.

No bother at all. Technically what I'm about to say should be in the tactics thread, but a little strategy blurb can't hurt.

Raptors are unique as jump infantry in 2 ways. The first is their ability to take 2 special weapons in a minimum sized 5 man squad. This comes out to a neat 120 points with 2 melta guns (which you should take), and makes an insanely good tank hunting squad. The second unique trait is that while ALL other assault marines trade their bolt pistol for a special weapon (thus losing the +1 attack for having both a Pistol and Close Combat weapon), Raptors take that weapon on top of their other wargear. This is awesome.

th3maninblak wrote:No bother at all. Technically what I'm about to say should be in the tactics thread, but a little strategy blurb can't hurt.

Raptors are unique as jump infantry in 2 ways. The first is their ability to take 2 special weapons in a minimum sized 5 man squad. This comes out to a neat 120 points with 2 melta guns (which you should take), and makes an insanely good tank hunting squad. The second unique trait is that while ALL other assault marines trade their bolt pistol for a special weapon (thus losing the +1 attack for having both a Pistol and Close Combat weapon), Raptors take that weapon on top of their other wargear. This is awesome.

oh wow that sounds just down right awesome! so 2 special weapons for each 5+man squad?
i already have 3Xflamers and 2Xmeltguns with 1X bolt pistol and a Champ..humm..so i would need 5 more standard gear raptors
to round out 2 squads of 2Xflamers,3X bolt pistol,1Xchamp and 2XMeltagun, 3XBolt pistol,1X champ correct?

DeathRex wrote:

th3maninblak wrote:No bother at all. Technically what I'm about to say should be in the tactics thread, but a little strategy blurb can't hurt.

Raptors are unique as jump infantry in 2 ways. The first is their ability to take 2 special weapons in a minimum sized 5 man squad. This comes out to a neat 120 points with 2 melta guns (which you should take), and makes an insanely good tank hunting squad. The second unique trait is that while ALL other assault marines trade their bolt pistol for a special weapon (thus losing the +1 attack for having both a Pistol and Close Combat weapon), Raptors take that weapon on top of their other wargear. This is awesome.

oh wow that sounds just down right awesome! so 2 special weapons for each 5+man squad?
i already have 3Xflamers and 2Xmeltguns with 1X bolt pistol and a Champ..humm..so i would need 5 more standard gear raptors
to round out 2 squads of 2Xflamers,3X bolt pistol,1Xchamp and 2XMeltagun, 3XBolt pistol,1X champ correct?

XD I think you need to read over your codex just a bit more.

Ok, so for your average squad, you would need this.

3+ dudes with BP/CCW
2 dudes with special weapons

You don't actually NEED the champion, and for small squads I wouldn't suggest him. However, in larger squads (say 10) you'd end up needing something like this.

1x Champ with assorted wargear (icon and either a Power Fist or lightning claws)
2 dudes with special weapons
7x BP/CCW guys.

th3maninblak wrote:

DeathRex wrote:

th3maninblak wrote:No bother at all. Technically what I'm about to say should be in the tactics thread, but a little strategy blurb can't hurt.

Raptors are unique as jump infantry in 2 ways. The first is their ability to take 2 special weapons in a minimum sized 5 man squad. This comes out to a neat 120 points with 2 melta guns (which you should take), and makes an insanely good tank hunting squad. The second unique trait is that while ALL other assault marines trade their bolt pistol for a special weapon (thus losing the +1 attack for having both a Pistol and Close Combat weapon), Raptors take that weapon on top of their other wargear. This is awesome.

oh wow that sounds just down right awesome! so 2 special weapons for each 5+man squad?
i already have 3Xflamers and 2Xmeltguns with 1X bolt pistol and a Champ..humm..so i would need 5 more standard gear raptors
to round out 2 squads of 2Xflamers,3X bolt pistol,1Xchamp and 2XMeltagun, 3XBolt pistol,1X champ correct?

XD I think you need to read over your codex just a bit more.

Ok, so for your average squad, you would need this.

3+ dudes with BP/CCW
2 dudes with special weapons

You don't actually NEED the champion, and for small squads I wouldn't suggest him. However, in larger squads (say 10) you'd end up needing something like this.

1x Champ with assorted wargear (icon and either a Power Fist or lightning claws)
2 dudes with special weapons
7x BP/CCW guys.

Yeah I tend to not fully grasp the codex and the different things in it no matter how seemingly simple lol so thanks for the help with the raptor rundown it's helped.
I only included the champions since I would have them and figured I'd factor them in. I had thought two units simply to shoot at tanks with meltguns and rain he'll fire with the team with flamers. Seems I might be lacking more knowledge than I thought in this

so... yeah. When exactly were you planning on telling me that you started your P&M blog?

Ha.

Your paint skills are much better than what you think they are, especially just starting out. The color scheme is solid. As far as "Iron Warriors" go, I've found that if you have as much as a dab of BG Metal on your main armor people make that comparison. It is what it is.

Advice on the quickets way to give your models that solid "finished" look- pick up some Gryphonne Sepia and Devlin Mud. It's so completely worth the few bucks it cost. You're seen my Plague Marines ( I think?) and the worn / rusted / dirty look to them is from a wash of Sepia and a later wash of Mud.

Nice load-out on the Raptors. I hope you find some nice juicy Imperial tanks to rip up soon.

Cant wait to see those guys painted!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:so... yeah. When exactly were you planning on telling me that you started your P&M blog?

Ha.

Your paint skills are much better than what you think they are, especially just starting out. The color scheme is solid. As far as "Iron Warriors" go, I've found that if you have as much as a dab of BG Metal on your main armor people make that comparison. It is what it is.

Advice on the quickets way to give your models that solid "finished" look- pick up some Gryphonne Sepia and Devlin Mud. It's so completely worth the few bucks it cost. You're seen my Plague Marines ( I think?) and the worn / rusted / dirty look to them is from a wash of Sepia and a later wash of Mud.

Nice load-out on the Raptors. I hope you find some nice juicy Imperial tanks to rip up soon.

Hey! Didn't I send you a link in a PM? I could of sworn I did
Thanks for the kind words it's nice to hear my painting Is starting off good. I had some concerns about the scheme but iv gotten nothing but positive feedback so I'm going to try and keep my units and tanks along the same scheme with some additions of black and bronze. (berserkers and thousand sons excluded)

Of course iv seen your plague marines they look awesome! If I can achieve that worn look I'll be happy. Do I apply it to those whole model? Red silver and gold alike?

Heres hoping the tanks go BOOM And take all the imperials within inches with it lol

got some more CSM ready to paint, the painting itself is coming along fine, pretty soon i hope to have five more to show to gauge how im painting them.

here are some pics of the CSM and Predator i mentioned before. im currently trying to paint the predator which i hope comes out right.


(champions)


The front and back of one of the CSM


the predator~~



the tank needs another wipe down lol, i notice that now after looking at the pictures.
The side mounted Las-Cannons are off, im going to try and use magnets to mount them on.

Lookin good so far. Snagged any rhinos yet?

th3maninblak wrote:Lookin good so far. Snagged any rhinos yet?

Sadly no, I'm working with a tight budget with little wiggle room and often when I find a deal I don't have the money.

I totally understand. Starting an army is an ongoing process that takes a lot of time and money, though in my opinion it's worth all of it. That being said, life always comes first.

I usually buy one box per paycheck, or every 2 paychecks if the thing I want to buy is particularly expensive, like a Stormraven or Land Raider. This makes building a new army times consuming (unless you have another one to sell/start from), but it's well worth the effort.

Predator paint update~
honestly i cant tell if the paint job is just sloppy, not well planned or i dedicated so much time to it today that im just overall disgusted with it
cant do much else with it now so if anyone has any opinions or comments there more than welcome.






last picture is to show side by side color scheme comparison with some of my painted CSM.
i know it needs touch ups in spots just so tired of focusing at the thing

@the3maninblak
Oh i agree. i got to play a single game of warhammer borrowing a friends Blood angels while he played a tourny with his black templar it was insanely fun! any misgivings i had about investing money into this hobby left after that game. the friends iv made play tau, orcs and spacemarines [salamanders] as well as sisters. being one of the few chaos oriented players i have met i cant wait to get my army together and its making this seemingly slow crawl into the hobby seem excruciating. but as you said life always comes first.

O.o I really like the color scheme on that tank. It's really eye catching. Great job!

Honestly, the only "sloppy" parts I saw were where you let colors bleed over onto other edges. Other than that, great paint job! Infantry are coming along very well too.

th3maninblak wrote:O.o I really like the color scheme on that tank. It's really eye catching. Great job!

Honestly, the only "sloppy" parts I saw were where you let colors bleed over onto other edges. Other than that, great paint job! Infantry are coming along very well too.

Thanks alot!
Yeah I'm trying to patch up some of the edges but I keep spotting new areas and I'm trying not to get to side tracked from painting my CSM, so far iv only gotten 3 more done after my first 3. I know it's a matter of patients and taking the time to do it right but I don't want to fall behind and then look at the 29 pieces I have unpainted and just not want to bother lol.

Oh here is a question, so far I plan on buying Gryphoone Sepia , Devlin mud and badda black washes and I'm curious which would be better to give skulls/bones a nice warn look?

@ DeathRex

The tank looks amazing! I agree withsome of the bleeding spots, but other than that, it looks great! I hope my SW Vindicator comes out that well. As for the Question, I would wash it in bada black. All of my skulls/teeth/bone are all washed with Bada Black. I love the look. I have some pics in my blog of some of my SW that have wolf skulls on the storm bolters. Check it out, it will give you an idea of the out come. Link is in the sig! O.....Its funny that you say that about not wanting to paint 29 models! Thats so me! Ive had my nids for like 8 months, and I dont even have a quarter of them painted!

I use badab black with a little bit of devlan mud to give an aging effect to my skulls and scrollwork. And try to paint one model per night. Youd be suprised at how much you can get done.

@imperial renegade
Lol yeah I can see we have that in common. I hope to see more of your space wolves, given how long it's taken so far how long till you think you'll field them? So far my friends at Adventure Games usually play Space Marines (salamanders), sisters, tau, blood angels, knights Templar and Orcs. One of the guys has daemons and imperial guard and someone else is starting a space wolf army. Its all friendly games so you can try out your tactics. We meet up on Saturday's and random days. Figured it might help ya.

Thanks both of you with the help with the washes on the skulls. I appreciate the help

Not long, I already have a playable force, but I only make it up to Adventure Games when I play with my nids. I am practicing for a big Apocolyps battel me and my friends are doing in the summer.

Imperial Renegade wrote:Not long, I already have a playable force, but I only make it up to Adventure Games when I play with my nids. I am practicing for a big Apocolyps battel me and my friends are doing in the summer.

There is a apoc game this coming month at Adventure Games, you know about it? Could be more practice if you got the time.

Color scheme is solid, nothing to add except take a break and then go back and do some minor trim fixes where the paint bled over on edges, etc. Looking really good, you have a distinctly unique and vibrant look to your army so far.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Color scheme is solid, nothing to add except take a break and then go back and do some minor trim fixes where the paint bled over on edges, etc. Looking really good, you have a distinctly unique and vibrant look to your army so far.

Thanks for the advice, it seems like the most sensible thing to do other than obsess over every detail which as I'm sure you know hasn't been working out to well for me
I'm glad you like my war bands look so far, given it being my first time painting anything I'm 2nd guessing myself a lot so every bit of feedback (good or bad) helps.

+10 confidence points

some of the CSM iv been working on..








just some CSM and some Banner guys, yet to do the banners. im waiting on some paint so ill most likely do some more touch up work on them then.

oh and this pic just because i like to see my guys together

It's always good to see a fully coloured squad, even if they painting isn't finished. Good luck on the rest of the guys, and good job on these guys.

This is a promising looking thread, keep up the cool work

Thanks a lot for your opinions! I'm glad it's starting to come together.

Looking really good! This army will be a blast to play against!

++Update++

got my hands on some washes, i used Gryphonne Sepia on these models and it seems to be giving them a desert feel. i used Devlan Mud for the boots on some to give darker tones to certain areas.. sadly the photos dont reflect much difference at least not as much as i think i see. maybe i should apply more?






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Berserkers!
i got myself a few berserkers and had some fun painting them up! used badab black wash.




those are two mutated berserkers


'Mad dash' berserker.


Skull champion with a powerfist and bolt pistol.



The banner is not complete yet, need some heads or skulls to cover each end post of the banner.

this is a facial close up, last minute during taking pictures i figured i would try free handing the into his forehead..
given the idea of carving something on your own forehead i dont think it looks to bad
btw this is another Skull champ with three fingered power fist and plasma pistol... oh and a banner on his back for dramatic zealot flare.

The freehand on that berzerker's head is really something. It's interesting to see already the leaps and bounds your skills are coming along at.
Keep at it!

Got a chaos lord typhus a few days ago and am waiting on bits for my traitor space wolves terminators!

I'm just a little unsure I'd I should change the space wolves all to much. I'm adding chaos pieces and giving them a darker color scheme but I want it to look more like they dyed Thier normal armor and simply took parts of chaos term weaponry. So sort of thrown together with the paint schemes sort if cashing were you can see where on ends and the other begins.

That's my idea anyway, wasn't sure if it's Been done (probably has) or if so if it came Out looking good. I dont want to have to start From scratch if it's hideous lol.

@jbrehaut
Thanks alot for the kind words

Berserk champion=
did work on his 'three finger' power fist that looked alot like the hand of a teenaged mutant ninja turtle
and evened him out to four fingers 9(like my other champ has )



~~Lord Typhus
not really chaos undivided and despite my interest in plague marines/death guard/all things Nurgle i dont have much
plans in expanding my army in that direction as of yet... yet still i couldnt resist getting my hands on Lord Typhus! (btw models damaged back = awesomeness]




took the pictures quickly with thw free time i managed to whip up so sorry if its considered low quality
i find it kinda funny my only piece that promotes decay will most likely be my only piece with grass on his base

and.... I reallly like your CSM. They are coming out really nice. Im in favor of the last model you did.

My Grey Knights are currently a little disturbed right now... we're just waiting for the call to attack...

Looking good so far.

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Thanks for the feed back on the progression of my army so far, it's appreciated!

Imperial renegade, one day your space wolves and/or tyranids will have to face down my Herald of Nurgle Muhahaha!

@^ Yeah...but I think I will be the one going Muhhhhaaaa! lol looking foward till we can play!.

Everything is looking really good I've just read through from the fist page and can definitely see your painting improving.

For the red on the berzerkers I'd recommend a Baal Red wash rather than black it gives it a lot more depth.

Looking forward to seeing what's next.

GiraffeX wrote:Everything is looking really good I've just read through from the fist page and can definitely see your painting improving.

For the red on the berzerkers I'd recommend a Baal Red wash rather than black it gives it a lot more depth.

Looking forward to seeing what's next.

Baal red? Thanks for the advice. I like the dirty/soot look. Given my first exp with them was them surviving the explosion of a rhino I thought the look oddly appropriate but the Baal red wash sounds like something worth trying.

I'm also glad my painting is making some progress, I appreciate the acknowledgment And that you took the time to look at my blog

ello ello
here are somethings i have been working on with the bit of free time iv managed to squeeze out from the day to day.

Berserks!~~



the basic zerkers, was going to use black but i like the look of limbs randomly painted bronze/gold.
next is my 'skull hunter' he focuses more on the skull throne aspect of being a zerker.


his trophies = 1 eldar head, 1 head and ribcage, 1 Imperial guard head, 1 Tyranid/creature skull and one random head atop

have some Space Wolf 'traitor' terminators up on the shelf i been meaning to get to and couldnt really swing a likeable color scheme so i stole my idea for thousand sons (since i dont have any atm) and used it on one.



not done, but im not sure what to do.. you see i want him to have a hint of chaos so my plan is to take a trohpy rack like a normal chaos terminator and put it on him. other than that i got nothing.. i want them to look untouched as if just arriving into the warband so i guess thats working for me but still i wish i could come up with some ideas. so people feel free to share ideas with me.

some more CSM of my warband.


finally got to painting one of the bases, the lines show alot more better than i thought they would.

TANK!~~~
my FIRST attempt at a rhino, putting together from scratch. my predator was a WIP i finished so this is my actual first attempt.
of course i screwed it up and it is by no means perfect but it is still my first! (have 2 more to go at that lol)




the back looks much worse in the photo geeez.. had some help with the tracks, before i noticed one was done 'wrong' i had done so much it just wasnt worth fixing or so i thought until i looked at the end product and realized how ...slanted one side had gotten.. do i know what i did wrong? not really.. will i do it again? i hope not! lol but im proud of my first Rhino tank

Hey DeathRex,

I'm in your area and also play at Adventure Games. We've probably met before We should get together and play a game. You're army is looking fantastic.

SpehsMareen wrote:Hey DeathRex,

I'm in your area and also play at Adventure Games. We've probably met before We should get together and play a game. You're army is looking fantastic.

Most likely have met, I usually pop in and out watching matches. Hope to see you at AG then =D
Thanks for the kind word regarding my army.

It's been awhile since I updated this, not as much free time but despite that I have started a new project, a new army.
Sisters of Battle! So far I call them my "bob-cut bitches"
I hear they have a learning curve to making them effective so let's see what happens.

So more pictures coming soon hopefully..

DeathRex wrote:I have started a new project, a new army. Sisters of Battle!

Nooooooooooooooo!!!


Nuns with guns. Ggaaah!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

DeathRex wrote:I have started a new project, a new army. Sisters of Battle!

Nooooooooooooooo!!!


Nuns with guns. Ggaaah!

No worries I am chaos to my core I got my hands on a nice batch of sisters of battle and want to paint them, my ultimate goal is to raise these lambs for slaughter so I can lure my gf into the warhammer and have a army to fine tune my chaos and try different things.
Upside is it still counts as quality time so everybody wins

The vader moment made me lol thanks alot

Update::
i like keeping this P&M blog, helps me keep track of stuff.. well on with the show!
My new army has taken much of my focus, it being a full army and my 'passion project' which is chaos being a slow burn of things seemingly falling together. so with that ill like to show the progress iv managed with the time iv had available.
sisters of battle being all metal is a pain so if i could get any tips on handling metal models id appreciate it!

First off is my first HQ the Canoness~



saw alot of pictures of her with white armor but i hate to much white on models so i tried for a 'bone armor' look. im thinking of doing my 2nd canoness the same way with a few alterations.

Here are Sister Dialogus and Sister Hospitaller


my first attempt at writing on scrolls and what not. did it come out alright?
since neither can be used without a Canoness i made hospitaller match her in armor in the same 'bone' color

my first Penitent Engine!
i was scared i would screw this one up. btw i didnt notice how dust the base was until i took pics i apologize.



tried to make the saws look 'used' its my first time painting something like this so feedback is appreciated.

oh here is a small sample of what my army will look like.
silver armor, black wash but with red robes. this model is not finished yet and needs touch ups.

For what it is worth, I think there is way too much blood on the saw blade. "Less is more" absolutely applies to blood effects. Try a dab of Red Gore on a very stiff paintbrush and 'flick' the bristles by pulling them away from the model and release by themselves as you pull your finger across. Tiny little blood spatter marks. Works well on armor, vehicles, chain swords, etc.

And yes, I'm still following your blog. I strongly dislike Psychotic Space Nuns but I really enjoy your work. I hope whatever went so wrong in your life that you felt you had to turn to this project gets better for you very soon.

* no idea what is going on, had to edit 3 times to fix unwanted quotations *

haha dont worry Skalk true to my word i have not turned my back on the gods of chaos! i bring fresh recruits into the ranks in fact!
oh btw as in the advice with the blood, i tried the flicking on the back of a canoness's cape just to see and i like it. the next one of those i have ill try it that way other than the butcher shop job i did on the first one lol.

a friend of mine hearing my lack of basic bolter+CCW raptors decided to give me a early christmas gift of a box of jump troops. taking this i used whatever chaos bits i could find and attempt to whip me up some raptors!

i just finished putting them together and there is still alot to be done to them.. that is if i dont get lazy and just paint them after a few touch ups lol.
and yes im trying to base them with rocks. first time really using this green putty and attempting to pin non metal models.

~Make-Shift Raptors
#1

'traitor wolf raptor #1'
#2

'perched raptor'
#3

'traitor wolf raptor #2'
#4


'i dont have a rock yet raptor'
#5

'guns blazin Raptor'

thats what i have so far. hopefully before the weekends threw ill have done something with them.

Got your PM

Raptors look great! I struggeld w/ the idea of Fast Attack w/ Plague Marines before I started mine, but I got over it. Hopefully they will be a bit more effective in 6th than they were in 5th. At any rate they are cool models.

Glad to hear the blood spatter effect might work out for you. Looking forward to seeing whatever pics come up!

hummm minor stuff to show ( much like the majority of my posts >>>self burn!))

well along we go..
sisters of battle~
my 2nd canoness HQ.

needs some touch ups(now that i see the magnified pictures of it).. my 3rd canoness has a combi-flamer so yay!

Heavy Bolter


i wish to the chaos gods i knew why the cloth came out that way. i used blood red and gore and tend to mix them for fun but still dont know why it has that blotchy look. reminds me of red camo. i like it lol. (just noticed im running out of flesh tone, must experiment with the cheap paints i think)

++++
now some CSM
mostly i just added some more bits as i planned and officially put them to a base!
curious as to how they look.

jump and shoot 'Chow yun fat' raptor


jumping back Raptor and perched Raptor.


Traitor wolf Raptors. one is odd and the other seems to take charge.
the skulls and chains fell off a rhino so i just put them on him.. thinking of making it like skin+gore fused to the sides of the jumpack.

wont bother putting up primer pics of them just finished painted models. dont want to dwell on them if im not making changes.

Hmm. Some of those poses (w/o explanation) look a bit off. The 'Chow Yun Fat' gave it a different perspective, but my initial reaction was 'drunk and stumbling', like his jump pack is way too heavy and his stabilizers aren't enough to keep him from falling over. Same goes for the "jumping back". I'd have titled it "falling backwards".

Please understand I'm not making fun, text is a poor form of communication sometimes.

I know the challenge of "dynamic poses" w/ Raptors. I started some for my Death Guard Plague Marines (see 1/4 down page) and it wasn't an easy process to make them look like they were "moving" and "in action".

Looking forward to seeing more of your work.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Hmm. Some of those poses (w/o explanation) look a bit off. The 'Chow Yun Fat' gave it a different perspective, but my initial reaction was 'drunk and stumbling', like his jump pack is way too heavy and his stabilizers aren't enough to keep him from falling over. Same goes for the "jumping back". I'd have titled it "falling backwards".

Please understand I'm not making fun, text is a poor form of communication sometimes.

I know the challenge of "dynamic poses" w/ Raptors. I started some for my Death Guard Plague Marines (see 1/4 down page) and it wasn't an easy process to make them look like they were "moving" and "in action".

Looking forward to seeing more of your work.

No problem, I'm not gonna take anything you say any sort of way, honestly It looked better until I actually had to base them lol. But which ones do you think need the most help? I can try and shift it around and such and make it look like their a little less drunk.

The models themselves look really good. Solid builds, good kit, and interesting conversions. What you are looking for in each model's pose is "motion" with the Raptors are assaulting forward. With that in mind, I'd recommend the following:



Stand model up more straight so it doesn't look so haphazard, also lean a bit forward. Looks good otherwise, very action-orientated.




Model on left should come forward more. Try changing stance from landing on left foot to landing on right foot, this simple change will likely give that "forward motion" look and address the unstable landing it looks like now.

Model on right could raise the Bolt Pistol to look like he's targeting something. The stance on the base looks good.



Model on the left could use the same process as model on left above- switch the foot he's landing on and you'll see the result you are looking for. Model on the right looks good.

Hope this is what you were looking for and helps out!

ok Skalk lets see if i corrected this problemo yet. i did what i could do with the time i had and the added frustration of gluing my fingers together and getting green stuff in places it had no right going.



'touching down' pistol action, falling back/retreating fire.. or 'doesnt know how to drive this crazy thing'




thoughts?

also working on a Exorcist tank but damn it looks ugly when i take pics of it lol. starting to get self-conscious

SOLID!

Wow, yes! That ^ 100%.

I think you're going to be a lot happier w/ this. Great job!

introducing Abbodon the Despoiler!

my conversion seemingly on hold forever [now iv started/done the real despoiler ill probably finish my stand in] i got my hands on the actual model and on a whim just dedicated a little over a hour to painting it. sooo here he is.

(front/back)

(side/side)

(close up/Sword)

used bronze, black and gore red keeping to my chaos color scheme while keeping him still to his black legion look.
Thoughts? =

updates~
My Terminator Lord conversion of Logan Grimnar into Abbodon the Despoiler stand in.
added claw+bolters and some 'trophies'




Khorne Chaos Lord!
needs some touch ups but given my schedule and trying to get my sisters army fully painted to meet my gaming needs (leaving my chaos army on hold until i get to read the new codex and get the most out of them) i dont know when ill get to them. not to mention i dont notice alot of them until i take pictures




aaand now my terminator traitor wolves




added a trophy rack and wash to the following one.

I am jealous of your Logan model! I've been wanting to pick one up and convert it into a Khorne Chaos Lord for the longest time! I'm starting to re-think my World Eaters and give them the same love my Death Guard rec'd for a year. Waiting on the new Codex before I start hacking / chopping stuff up. Magnetization is going to be a HUGE change in my modeling as I learned a lesson when doing DG- having 100+ Plague Marines is cool but completely ridiculous unless I'm planning on playing APOC.

Stuff is looking ace, excellent work.

Oh a Logan convert to a khorne lord is a great idea, I'd love to see you pull that off, now I have something else to hopefully look forward to when the next CSM codex comes out.
Wow that's alot of plague marines man! Im jealous of that that's a feat in my eyes. Have you ever played apoc with those numbers? Must of been insane if you did.

Magnets are not by friends, I need to find s tutorial as I almost destroyed my predator tank trying to mount the side laz on magnets. I think I even lost a magnet after hours of work under my table in my last residence and just Retired the idea and glued them on. Never again lol.(maybe)

The difference in power weapons (sword/axe/maul) is making me think of magnets again so my number of terminators and chosen don't need to burn my wallet in sacrifice to chaos. Never mind death guard XD it makes my bank account scream just thinking about it.

Edit:: btw thanks for the approval of my work , I try and it's awesome to get your praise!

If I find a metal LG I'll snap him up and make him the most brutal-looking dedicant to Khorne I possibly can. Until then I'll remain Logan-less becasue there's no way I'm spending that kind of money for a Finecast model. It'll happen eventually.

I've never had the chance to field all of my Plague Marines on the same table at once. I would like to see that happen someday, if I'm lucky it'll be this summer.

I searched Youtube for magnetization videos and I couldn't find one where they were actually showing the process (meaning what drill to use, how to use it, etc). So I'd recommend using bits of sprue to practice on and make your mistakes on something that doesn't matter. The magnets will be easily recovered even if you glue them in.

You are doing good work here. Everyone starts somewhere, and you're doing well w/ your progress.

Your Abaddon the Despoiler stand in conversion is looking really nice.

Looking forward to seeing him with some paint on.

some updates yay!
i spent some time crafting my little angry chaos men tanks to make beating in faces alot easier.
got tired of my warband being called 'iron warriors' or even worse 'nameroths chosen' after the CSM in the recent 360/PS3 Space Marines game due to similar paint scheme.. soo i found a emblem to place upon them.



this is my 'Khorne " tank most likely to carry my berserkers in.
[sides]

[hit and run]

[front & Gunner]

[Back & Khorne 'Gore' Symbol]

see there is some blood for the blood god AND a skull for the skull throne in that mess.

Sister!
i have painted a Exorcist tank and am now trying to fix a mistake i made on the freehand i did on it. in the mean time i realized my lack of money and tanks.. sooo.. i Swiss Army knifed one. This one acts as a Exorcist and Rhino for my SOB and as a basic Rhino for my CSM.

Exorcist =

remove the missles and its a sisters rhino.
or....
replace it all together with my 'emblem' doors and its a nice addition to my CSM rhinos


here is a nice shot of all three of my Rhinos lined up.


here is a little show of my sisters color scheme.



thats all i have for today! running low on paint and time heres hoping i can keep on keeping on.

Dude, this is the most awesome thing I've seen you do yet, 100% original (I've never seen it before anyway) and if I ever decide to do my own version of that idea, you'll get full credit for inspiration:



Wow man. That's really well done. Seriously, I could go on and on about it. I like the weathering effects and blood spatter you've done as well, but that icon... yeah, that's 100%

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Dude, this is the most awesome thing I've seen you do yet, 100% original (I've never seen it before anyway) and if I ever decide to do my own version of that idea, you'll get full credit for inspiration:



Wow man. That's really well done. Seriously, I could go on and on about it. I like the weathering effects and blood spatter you've done as well, but that icon... yeah, that's 100%

Thanks alot! I was worried on how it might be viewed. Of course I like it but wasn't sure if others would, I'm glad to see you do! And considering you mentioned earlier about prioritizing your world eaters I hope to see your own gore
Feels good to inspire!

I really like the scheme for your sisters, she's looking really nice.

The blood splatter on the rhino is cool

humm ok so here is my stand in for Death Cult Assassins, made from Dark Eldar bits.



curious if they look alright and if the paint scheme works.


here is my exorcist




humm after talking these pics i noticed all the green marks and unpainted crevices in the green stuff i had to use to get the organ level on the back of the exorcist. id did the touch ups. my free hand on the ' ' looks much better in person lol. i was later informed its not the proper insignia for the sisters so my next one will most likely be different.

I was planning some Exorcists for my Sisters are they a lot of hassle to put together?

I notice the FW ones are a lot cheaper and probably easier but I prefer the look of the GW ones.

GiraffeX wrote:I was planning some Exorcists for my Sisters are they a lot of hassle to put together?

I notice the FW ones are a lot cheaper and probably easier but I prefer the look of the GW ones.

The FW ones are a lot easier it's just replacing the top hatch and door and assembling a couple of parts for the missle launcher much like putting together a twin link bolter. The GW one is metal and can be a bit tricky. I have two GW models and unlike my friends they just didn't fit right and when I managed to get one to it was lopsided. So I had to cut off a piece of a sprue file it down a bit and place it under the organ on one side then use green putty to fill in the gaps. The organ due to it's weight was my most trouble. The side panels are just a matter of fitting them on correctly so no real issue there. I'd say the GW one is worth it.

okay then i found some bits and decided to throw some together.. here is my champion/chosen!
didnt have much chaos bits so i cut skulls off some vehicle bits and made big ol knee pads lol.



trying to do more freehand work to try and get abit better. chaos star over the eye and 'scratched' into right shoulder. need better brushes.
im destroying these brushes way to fast lol.

Loving the look you have going w/ the paint, and the conversions are decent!

One note though- drill your barrels! If I didn't say it someone else will. It give the model a more completed look.

Here is my Space Marine Chaplin converted into my Chaos Sorcerer
Power Mace/Maul + Bolt pistol

That's very good work. It's one of your cleaner pieces and the attention to specific detail is well done. What's the chance of a 'group shot' to show total progress so far?

got my grubby little hands on the limited edition Dark Vengeance box set and burnt myself out on my 3rd day without sleep just painting.
so far only got to trying my hand at two models. Chaos Lord Kranon the Relentless and Mortis Metalikus aka Hellbrute

Chaos Lord Kranon


Hellbrute


the Hellbrute looks better in person. i think perhaps its the lighting. maybe its just me.
iv gotten to calling it 'FleshBrute'

thinking of using the Dark Angel pieces to use with my sister of battle as allies. maybe pick up space marines from the black reach set to fill in more gaps and add options. not really interested in painting them atm to be honest.

That's very good work. It's one of your cleaner pieces and the attention to specific detail is well done. What's the chance of a 'group shot' to show total progress so far?

ill try to get the stuff together and take one big pic of whats done. i finished the last couple of berserkers but left them to get a black wash from my gf.. they look like chimney sweeps i got some of it to tone down but ...it is what it is at this point lol

Nice work, and that was pretty quick!

What's your opinion of the new models? I'm waiting for the regular box set to come out since I already bought the hardcover rulebook and don't 'need' the BRB. I'm really looking forward to the Cultist models.

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Nice work, and that was pretty quick!

What's your opinion of the new models? I'm waiting for the regular box set to come out since I already bought the hardcover rulebook and don't 'need' the BRB. I'm really looking forward to the Cultist models.

Thanks! I just started painting and got so into it. I noticed despite my mostly silver scheme I didn't have a silver chaos lord so I went that route.

I like the new models. The details in the new chosen models are really nice and the Hellbrute is rather pleasing to the eyes as well if you don't mind the smooth fleshy look which I have noticed others are not so happy about. Only problem I had was when putting them together.
once put together some parts would look great and others had gaps that needed to be corrected and at times it felt like They just didn't go. I got them to fit but with the hell brute it just felt more difficult than it should of been. On the other hand I only know two others who got theirs and one said it fell into place and the other had the same issue so who knows what's going on there. Were probably incompetent

I needed the rule book so I used that as an excuse to justify buying the limited editon set.
Honestly the cultist are my favorite part of the box set. I tried not to look at any previews but hoped they weren't just guardsmen with spikes and I'm rather happy with them. To me their prisoners liberated from incarceration by the forces of chaos I really like the model wearing the Commissar jacket but I'm sure plenty of people do.

I heard something along the lines that if I use Lord Typhus my cultist will be 'zombies' and have ' feel no pain'. That seems like something to have fun with.

That's really cool that you're digging the new miniatures. All I've seen so far is GW pics and some pics on eBay. I hHave been avoiding the nerdrage forums about how much everything sucks (new rules, higher prices, bad models) because I've found over time that in general everything sucks for them and I frequently disagree. Looking forward to being able to decide for myself. GW box set miniatures have traditionally been less detailed and have some minor assembly issues (gaps, etc) than the later releases but the standard is still improving from release to release (in my opinion).

I'm very excited that GW finally recognized Cultists again. That's been a raw issue for me for a long time as there are literally millions and millions of Cultists throughout the known worlds of the Imperium, and in the Eye of Terror there are entire wolds of them. And I really miss my Genestealer Cult.

I haven't read up on Typus and how he interacts w/ Cultists. I'll wait for the Codex. Last word from my FLGS is October. Ugh. More waiting.

Looking forward to seeing what you do next!

finally returned home and found the time to put up some photos yay! my light broke for some of them so i questioned the quality of the pictures even if they look like most of the pictures i post here anyway lol. well yeah.

tried two different color schemes on them, first was a screamer pink + Brown motif to play toward a desert theme and then a blue + blue motif just cuz i had the extra paints and they seemed to look nice next to each other on the shelf.
instead of picking just one color im thinking of doing both, one color scheme for sect tetcvar and another sect anarkus. . or perhaps do random? not totally sure yet.









having cultists as an option makes me regret giving away a box of random guard bits
oh well. cant wait to see the new codex to see what options they have regardless lol. would be fun to see a cultist HQ.



oh heres a question.
when i first saw the dark angel terminator armor from the dark vengeance box set i automatically thought pre-Hersey Emperors children. im curious if that seems accurate to others and if there are any suggestions on how to change the iconography to better match the Emperors children (if at all possible)

Wow you have been busy! The Cultists look great!

No idea about the DA looking like EC. I'm just going to trade mine off when I get them for more CSM / Cultists.

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Wow you have been busy! The Cultists look great!

No idea about the DA looking like EC. I'm just going to trade mine off when I get them for more CSM / Cultists.

I see, I'm entertaining the same idea now I have the new codex to see how cheap and useful fodder cultist can be. What's your opinion of the new codex and war gear set up?

Soon I might take photos of my tanks. I went over them with a little bit of shaky hand details and I swear I can't tell if it helped or not lol.
Been painting chosen between odd jobs, my dark vengeance dual lightning claws chosen ended up in the jowls of a warp born yorkie he will live.

well hello
i have little direction lately but i managed to do something with my tanks. a little detailing/scraping. something to make them look a little worn.
sort of like they took old black legion tanks and painted over some parts leaving the warn black as is. sort of like not wanting to waste the black paint if its already black lol.

my new Vindicator Tank!!






work on Predator Tank..





work on Rhino Tanks..

That's some nice work on the Vindacator! Your army is coming along nicely.

My initial reaction to the new CSM codex is the same vanilla feel to it, a lot of unnecessary / unneeded stuff added, and my ENTIRE army has been reduced to an Elite choice. I'm going to work on terrain and maybe some basic vanilla CSM for my Red Corsairs and / or Black Legion.

The Cultists are a welcomed return, but they are so limited. I'm thinking their entire purpose is to be a Meat Shield. With that in mind I'm going to build an entire army out of them. I'm going to play a couple 'blob army' games to see if I like it. I have a feeling I'm going to lose on an epic scale.

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
That's some nice work on the Vindacator! Your army is coming along nicely.

My initial reaction to the new CSM codex is the same vanilla feel to it, a lot of unnecessary / unneeded stuff added, and my ENTIRE army has been reduced to an Elite choice. I'm going to work on terrain and maybe some basic vanilla CSM for my Red Corsairs and / or Black Legion.

The Cultists are a welcomed return, but they are so limited. I'm thinking their entire purpose is to be a Meat Shield. With that in mind I'm going to build an entire army out of them. I'm going to play a couple 'blob army' games to see if I like it. I have a feeling I'm going to lose on an epic scale.

Maybe Im wrong but doesn't it say if you play typhus or a chaos lord with the mark of nurgle that plague marines are consider troop choices not as elites. So there is a way to do it.
I have slight issues with the lack of daemon weapon options or rather the lack of wiggle room with the type of daemon weapons that can be taken. I'm just glade my Khorne HQ came with a axe with a ugly grin lol.

The cultists are pure meat shields. I had hoped they had more options than shown in the DV box set perhaps borrowing from the imperial guard or even having their own unique additions. Maybe even a psyker HQ option with the new psyker abilities. But we have what we have.
Im not sure how to feel about the Lord Typhus 'zombie' option, fearless, slow and purposeful and feel no pain with the drawback of no upgrades and all losing their pistols and gaining two CCW. I'll most likely use my limited numbers as fill in on my attempt at a low point Army.
That blob army sounds really fun as well as destined to be slaughtered horrifically. But fun lol. Tell me how that Goes!

Khorne Dreadnought/Helbrute

here is my Khorne dedicated dread. i personally like solid gold on red so this was fun. Have CCW with flamer, Twin Link Las cannon and Twin Link Heavy Bolter.
so with little more delay i give to you a daemonic war machine





last pic i wanted to show him with his buddies.
Blood for the blood god.
Skulls for the skull throne.

Blood for the Blood God indeed. That's a pretty gory base. I can hear the 'squish' as he steps.

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
Blood for the Blood God indeed. That's a pretty gory base. I can hear the 'squish' as he steps.

haha truly! you would imagine a Dreadnought dedicated to khorne would just be dripping with gore one way or another. not to sure if they bother to hose off their rhinos let alone their [more] mentally unstable brothers encased in a walking death machine.



working on my plague marines and hope to have something to show soon [they all are missing backpacks but screw it]
for now what is next to display is a little more Khorne love with my Chaos lord/Kharn the betrayer proxy!

well working on my plague marine fluff i decided i needed a warpsmith. definitely not going to buy one so i decided to make one!
here are the results





i also managed to finish painted my cultists but the individual pictures came out too dark so here is a group.

bah .. in the middle of trying my hand at different things. my nurgle marines are giving me grief as im unsure how to go about applying chains to create a 'cape' look without it looking tacky. it seemed like a good idea to get out of having to buy backpacks lol.

next are some Dark Vengeance set conversion i have tried my hand at.

Librarian = Sorcerer.
easy enough jump. more so since my last convert of a chaplin fits rather nicely as a dark apostle so i am in need of a magic slinger.


paint makes it look a bit dirty but yeah. trying to work around the front flap of its chest being cut off before i got my hands on it (i traded the one i got initially away) as i got it from a friend. the sword of demon fire just makes me happy.

now for the champions crafted from the DV.
damned things are DRENCHED in dark angel icons.

this one wields my attempt at making a combi-flamer


now the terminators.


attempt at 'sculpting' fur.. figured it might come out looking ratty which isnt bad for chaos but it looks all mossy. maybe its the green? maybe when i paint it it will look better lol. first try. i did more and tried to make up for lack of shoulder pads with it. bad call lol. =D here is hoping it looks better when i get to finishing them.


to go along with my fluff they will be painted necron abyss and have the chaos star painted onto their armor as 'elite' new converts with just scattered chaos bits on their loyalist armor. so if they dont look chaos maybe they will when reaching completion.

The blood on the icon, I want. But apart from that, your army looks tip top mate, we are most amused.

Nice conversions and horrific blood and gore. Just curious, why the shield?

Hey Death Rex! Your Army is freaking awesome! Its coming along really nicely! Im liking the red, looks epic!


and yeah..."back from the dead"

wow it has been some time i could work on my army. starting to become a pattern i seriously need to break out of.. i mostly try to keep this blog thing up for my own benefit and my recent hospitalization has given me a chance to slow down (against my will) andwork on a couple of things so ill share them here.

i tried to do a rust effect by mixing brown and orange, watering it down until it was like a wash. then a dry brush of black and boltgun metal. im uber surprised my paints are mostly still usable!

this is my nurgle lord former Brother Sargent Ameleo now Plague Lord Malady
he looks dark angels because he is. pretty much to go with the fluff im trying to work on.
rusty lightning claws to pass on whatever nasty thing he has brewing inside himself.



and here is a random paint job i did to kill the time.
a champion/chosen.

a better look at the actual rust effects i tried to do.




here are my first attempts at creating a Daemon Prince. its supposed to be Chaos undivided former Alpha Legion prince of my warband.
sorry for no white background, my whole set up got shifted around and i wanted to take pics as soon as i could while i had the time.




the base i made i want to put it on.