We are talking with Palladium Books about the project. We need their Help to get our much needed foot in the door for the Licensing of the project. Both Jon and I believe a solid Robotech Miniatures game is long over due and would get a lot of notice if we can get the word out. We’ve always wanted to see Robotech on the Tabletop and we hope you have also. All we are asking is that you take a minute and show your support for getting A Robotech Tabletop Miniatures game and a line of amazing miniatures produced; Let Kevin at Palladium know that your interested in seeing this happen. So please make sure to go on their forums and on facebook and leave them a comment saying: yes I want a game and those minis!
a 3D printed prototype Radar X/Defender and what look like resin masters of an Excalibur/Tomohawk and Zentraedi battlepod
Robotech Battles have been around for a little while, but they were mostly just rules to play with your 1/144 or 1/100 model kits. They're now trying to go through Palladium and make it into an actual, licensed game, however. The game would be licensed/produced by Palladium, mostly because Harmony Gold has such a tight stranglehold on the Robotech/Macross rights (they make GW seem downright laid back about their IP). The rules would NOT be based on the Robotech RPG rules, but use the Robotech Battles as a starting place and probably need a fair amount of work before publishing.
Personally, this would be a childhood dream come true if it pans out. The only reason I got into Battletech to begin with was because it had robotech models! Well, technically macross models, but that's a whole seperate issue. It's high time we saw some actual, real Robotech figs! I want Zentraedi power armor and invid mecha and alpha fighters and cyclones and oh god, nerd overload incoming!
Yeah, I've seen people talk about this as basically a fan project in the past, but that's all it appeared to be, and certainly nothing on the news page. Hadn't seen the prototypes before this though, those are absolutely fantastic! When I'd looked into Robotech Battles before (D6 generation has been talking about it for a few episodes) it was mostly geared towards using the plastic macross model kits to play games with, which didn't interest me in the slightest. A RT minis game using 1/285th scale figs? Shut up and take my money!
@Laughing Man- That's why I made sure to mention the rules weren't done by palladium, I know a lot of people that have issues with palladium's system.
Robotech Battles is done by a good buddy of mine from my gaming group He did demos at the last Mechanicon and the game is really fun, definitely work checking out!
I'm really looking forward to this. This is great. I've loved Robotech since I was five, it's really hard to get across how excited I am in written format. I hope they include minis for some of the more recent macross shows.
Yeppers as long as Harmony Gold and Pally get their cut this should have np taking off. HG is known for being rather 'difficult' about licencing robotech though.
As I said in the other thread, I hope it does take off then you can expand into Masters and MOSPEADA ( my personal fav).
Nice models, but oh god, I hope you're paying Palladium for the license and they have nothing else to do with the project. I'm not sure I can handle another-
Rulebook filled with vague rants about how the writer understands martial arts better than I do,
Pointless, inelegant rules that make 20 seconds of combat into 10 minutes of paperwork,
Rules that have little relevance to the IP, like megadamage,
Random, unidentified drawings from the IP creators' sketchbook being turned into entirely new factions that never existed in the background,
and Power escalations with every book that made Codex-creep look balanced by comparison. Seriously, with Rifts they even had to publish a book with a bunch of tables showing how to use old books with new books- they were that out of synch with each other.
Insurgency Walker wrote:Wow, look......Battletech! Rifleman, Warhamer....oh wait.
Oh wow, new miniatures to play Battletech with.
Theres truth in this. Even if the Robotech game never takes off the market for the Destroids would be huge within the ranks of Battletech players. The original "unseen" minis are getting hard to come by, unless you want to spend a small fortune.
On the subject of the Robotech game...pending review of the rules Id be in. Definitely in for some minis. Make the Invid and Id be a happy guy.
The Battletech Warhammer is of course painted, and one of my prized miniatures. I have another one unpainted and unassembled in a box somewhere.
The Robotech Excalibur that is pictured here looks like the master from a toy that I have. It is a small plastic pre-painted Excalibur that came in a little baggie. A friend bought it for me during a trip to Japan. It definitely wasn't bought as part of any kind of miniatures game, it is just a little plastic figure. The mold is absolutely exactly the same as the picture here.
My friend got me that miniature several years ago. It's been sitting on my desk next to my computer for a long time. I'm not at home now, so I can't take pictures.
The Battletech Warhammer is of course painted, and one of my prized miniatures. I have another one unpainted an unassembled in a box somewhere.
The Robotech Excalibur that is pictured here looks like the master from a toy that I have. It is a small plastic pre-painted Excalibur that game in a little baggie. A friend bought it from me during a trip to Japan. It definitely wasn't bought as part of any kind of miniatures game, it is just a little plastic figure. The mold is absolutely exactly the same as the picture here.
My friend got me that miniature several years ago. It's been sitting on my desk next to my computer for a long time. I'm not at home now, so I can't take pictures.
Umm... you own a unreleased promo. Doubt it, what you should be thinking is, dam if there that close he has got skill.
I'm in for the models alone, if it a fun system even better. As for KS like other have said...
I'm not saying I own an unreleased promo. I'm saying I have a toy from Japan which is several years old and looks like it was made from the exact same mold as the Excalibur pictured here. I'll post a picture when I get home if I can find it. I boxed it up last year when I moved, but it was sitting on my computer desk for a few years before that. From memory, it doesn't look like just another Excalibur, it looks like the exact same mold. I could be wrong though.
Well being the guy who made the both the 3d model and the prototypes I can say that it's not the exact same model.
The base design is the established Tomahawk/Excalibur from Macross/Robotech so there's a huge array of models and toys that have the same overall design but each company's rendition is slightly differant. (the sizes tend to vary a bit as well)
Here's a shot of the original prints before I molded them and cast it in resin.
I wish Carl Macek and Harmony Gold would catch fire and die. That way it'd be possible to get some actual licensed Macross (and by extension, Mospeada) products here in the states.
Paulson - good job on the minis.
Pallidium, meh.
H.B.M.C. wrote:If they're clever they'll do the minis in roughly the same scale as BTech minis. BTech players will dive at them!
Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
MightyGodzilla wrote:I wish Carl Macek and Harmony Gold would catch fire and die. That way it'd be possible to get some actual licensed Macross (and by extension, Mospeada) products here in the states.
Paulson - good job on the minis.
Pallidium, meh.
Umm Carl Macek is dead, and has been since 2010 =o[
What people don't understand is back in the early 80's Japanimation was VERY hard to find in north america. It wasn't until VHS beat out Beta for dominence that bootleg VHS tapes started to show up.
Carl just wanted to bring Macross over here but he couldn't get syndication rights, so he aquired the rights to Macross, Super Dimensional Calvary Southern Cross and Genesis Climber MOSPEADA spliced them together to hit the right number of episodes for syndication package and robotech was born. (Fun fact, Southern Cross wasnt even set on earth it was set on a planet called Gerion(sp?) which had two moons so they had to airbrush out the second moon, plus Nova Satori ( Lana Isavia) is one of my Fav charactos )
What robotech did was bring a whole new generation of kids into Japanimation ( it wouldn't be called anime for many years still). There was some stuff on TV here like Starblazers and Battle of the Planets ( Science Ninja Team Gatchaman) but the pickings where slim.
There where a few articles about this in the robotech comics ( not the Comico crap, I think Invid War, and invid war Aftermath.) and he explains it rather well.
What I can't get is the hate that robotech gets from 'pure diehard' Macross fans most of who where not even born when Robotech was doing it's first run on North American TV. People just don't realise how different things where before the net.
FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:What robotech did was bring a whole new generation of kids into Japanimation ( it wouldn't be called anime for many years still)
I'm one of those old people that still calls it Japanimation, and thinks Anime is a silly word.
FabricatorGeneralMike wrote: Umm Carl Macek is dead, and has been since 2010 =o[
i actually know that, but his name lives on, and so does Harmony Gold.
What I can't get is the hate that robotech gets from 'pure diehard' Macross fans most of who where not even born when Robotech was doing it's first run on North American TV. People just don't realise how different things where before the net.
Not speaking for all diehard fans by any means. The problem is that the Harmony Gold "forever licensing" won't let Macross into the States. Any Macross including 1, 2, Plus, 7, Zero, or Frontier - videos, toys, posters, soundtracks - any of it. If it has the Macross in it, it ain't getting in the U.S. And it's only the U.S., everywhere else can have Macross and Robotech. And Harmony Gold is esentially dead, having two new projects of their own in 25+ years....yeah.
I liked Robotech when it first aired, and still do. And I know Macek is about as gateway as Akira or Ninja Scroll or any of your other late 80's favorites, but dammit I feel like an ozzie trying to buy GW when I try and buy anything Macross and I put the blame squarely on Macek and Harmony Gold.
FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:What robotech did was bring a whole new generation of kids into Japanimation ( it wouldn't be called anime for many years still)
I'm one of those old people that still calls it Japanimation, and thinks Anime is a silly word.
I totally agree on that as well, I'm old enough to remember watching "Japanimation" as a kid in the early 80's.
My closest guess is that just like the GW fanboys the anime fanboys always feel the need to white knight anything that doesn't fit their flawed view. ::shrug::
The other thing I don't get is the instant flame attitude towards Palldium, especially since by approaching the venture into miniatures they are showing an openess to launch into not only a new market but also take on a new rules set. Which to me indicates they want to step away from their traditional approach to rpgs.
I love how people point to the Robotech rpgs and say none of this type of trash! Have you guys reaslized that a RPG system won't work for miniatues? Secondly it's from 1985, it's older than GW rogue trader! There is no system that is that old and wouldn't look bad. So it'd hardly a fair comparison.
People need to get the bug out of their backside and realize that this won't be a 1980's style game design and they are just going to be a parent publisher due to already having the liscense established. This is their chance to modernize and create a new system wholecloth. It will be a very distinct break from the product type they've sold in the past.
Some people complain that Palladium has gone after it's fans and issued C&D letters and punished fans by letting a MMO opportunity fall apart, all I can say is GW say what? Lawsuits and controlling IP are part of every industry not just the miniatures industry. Everything that Palladium has done in defending their titles GW has done to a power of 10 and there's still plenty of fans rallying around them.
I think it's the 80's soundtrack and the voiceacting that makes me more of a Robotech fan than a Macross fan.
The Macross soundtrack was awful, and the voices sounded too OLD. Max was particularly bad. The voice actor was only in his mid 20's at the time, but I wear he sounded 40. I'm sure some other fanboy is going to be outraged that I don't like the Macross soundtrack
But then there's Minmay. Yes. Kill Minmay. Kill her.
Murrdox wrote:But then there's Minmay. Yes. Kill Minmay. Kill her.
Yes couldn't agree more, she was annoying in both versions. My one complaint is that they cut the song 'My boyfriend is a pilot' and put in the song 'It's my time to be a star'. Minor gripe that I wouldn't know about for years and years. But I do like Pilot better. Ranka Lee did a nice version in Macross F though. =o]
As I said before Paulson, Shut up and take my money Especially when you get to Mospeada (Military Operation Solder Protection Emergency Aviation Dive Armour). =o]
Sorry, I was wrong. The picture really reminded me of my toy Excalibur, but I see now they're actually quite different. Love this new Excalibur / Warhammer model, and now I want one.
Here's a shot of my toy with my Warhammer model (forgive the paintjob, it was like 10 years ago and the model is a little dusty lol)
If you make a M.A.C. II/Monster I will be your best friend for life. It doesn't even have to transform into a silly space shuttle or an even sillier robot.
JOHIRA wrote:If you make a M.A.C. II/Monster I will be your best friend for life. It doesn't even have to transform into a silly space shuttle or an even sillier robot.
You can get them on eBay in (I believe) 1/144 scale - works out at about the same size as a Armorcast Mad Cat or Vulture... non-transformable, of course! I have one, and they are very impressive...
QUICK eBAY RESEARCH... in fact, there's one for sale right now...
JOHIRA wrote:If you make a M.A.C. II/Monster I will be your best friend for life. It doesn't even have to transform into a silly space shuttle or an even sillier robot.
You can get them on eBay in (I believe) 1/144 scale - works out at about the same size as a Armorcast Mad Cat or Vulture... non-transformable, of course! I have one, and they are very impressive...
QUICK eBAY RESEARCH... in fact, there's one for sale right now...
MightyGodzilla wrote:As long as everything you make was in sca le with eachother I'd be happy. For some reason I'd love it if all my models were in scale with eachother.
Scale miniatures? What a novel idea!
I watched Robotech when I was a kid and was not aware of the Macross originals at all. Later on in teen years I watched Macross and was like meh, Robotech was better. My younger brother was too young to remember when Robotech aired in the US so he remembers Macross and likes it better. So I think the difference for fans of one over the other is which they saw first (or remember seeing as in the case of my brother) This is why the generation that did not watch the syndicated Robotech see it as the 'bad american version' In other words it is not their fault that they cannot apreciate what we had.
MightyGodzilla wrote:] Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
this is true, but the current price of these miniatures, would make any player wanting the old Unseen look to jump on this and buy handfuls of each of their favor mech. I know for a fact if they make what ever the Marauder is the setting, close to the size of the 75ton mech on the hexed game or near the size of the IS Marauder II I would be buying at least 4-8 of them, I know depending on price of the Warhammers(again I lack the name for the Macross/Robotech) I will be getting 4-8. other unseens will also be nabbed up depending on what they look like and how much they cost.
MightyGodzilla wrote:Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
Do you understand what those 6 miniatures represent? What even just one of them - the Marauder - represents?
Garuss Acine wrote:I know for a fact if they make what ever the Marauder is the setting
It's the Officer's Battlepod!
/enjoying flying my nerd flag higher
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MightyGodzilla wrote:Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
Do you understand what those 6 miniatures represent? What even just one of them - the Marauder - represents?
Agree. The Unseen are just a really huge deal for any Battletech fan.
MightyGodzilla wrote:] Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
this is true, but the current price of these miniatures, would make any player wanting the old Unseen look to jump on this and buy handfuls of each of their favor mech. I know for a fact if they make what ever the Marauder is the setting, close to the size of the 75ton mech on the hexed game or near the size of the IS Marauder II I would be buying at least 4-8 of them, I know depending on price of the Warhammers(again I lack the name for the Macross/Robotech) I will be getting 4-8. other unseens will also be nabbed up depending on what they look like and how much they cost.
Ditto. I'd nab a dozen or so Marauders in plastic/resin to add to my dozen or so Marauders in lead/pewter.
MightyGodzilla wrote:Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
Do you understand what those 6 miniatures represent? What even just one of them - the Marauder - represents?
Agree. The Unseen are just a really huge deal for any Battletech fan.
I started playing BT when TR3050 came out, I own 300+ pewter clan mechs, and i would sell every one in a heartbeat if it meant i could keep the 4 lead unseens I got from my brother for my birthday.
If you think the unseens aren't a big deal, you should investigate why the newest Mechwarrior game they were producing rolled over in died in a fiery heap.
Garuss Acine wrote:I know for a fact if they make what ever the Marauder is the setting
It's the Officer's Battlepod!
/enjoying flying my nerd flag higher
Tactical Zentradi battle pod = Regult
Light Artillery BP = Regult Light
Heavy '" " " = Regult Heavy
Recon Scout = Regult Tactical Scout
Officers BP = Glaug Combat System (Kamjinn (Khyron) has three personally) (Battletech Maurader)
Male Powe Armour = Nousjadeul-Ger
Female PA = Queadlunn-Rau Battle Suit ( one of my personal favs' especially Myria's)
I hope you can do models for all of them eventually, I would love to have a group of Female PA's taking on Veritech's and blowing up Destroids. Female Zentradi for the win. Hell I would like to see Full Sized Zentradi figues also They would be about the same size as a veritech in Battloid mode.
Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
That's kinda like saying Mario is just one of hundreds of Nintendo characters and not very important
Those designs are the core of what gave rise to battletech, the line may have expanded beyond that, but those design are still what defines the entire setting for most of the players. Take a look at any of the old BT book covers, those designs make up at least 80% of the cover art. Those mechs becoming available again would be a huge deal regardless of what system they are marketed for.
(Additionally it's not just 6 designs; it's 16. Plus another 10 if you want to count the dougram stuff. Macross and Dougram composed more than half the BT original line)
The goal with the miniatures is to make a stand alone line, although we are well aware of the rather significant cross market implications.
Harmony Gold's ownership of the rights only applies to the US, outside the US it's controlled by Studio Nue and Tatsunoko so any product intended for non-US locals would need to go through them. That's what makes for the difficulties with allowing the new generation of macross series in the US. HG's ownershop blocks their stuff from coming in unless it's through 3rd party companies.
We are being told (currently via facebook) that Palladium will be reviewing everyhting soon.
Direct Quote
"We will be looking into Robotech miniatures soon. Promise. It's definitely near the top of Kevin's things to follow up on - after a little eating and sleeping."
-Tom
Pallidium has the rights to robotech miniature, so yes. But, not sure about international rights. Can you get there Robotech RPG over there?
I see.
We can get it but have to import. There is no official translation it seems.
Probably the original rights holder would not allow it to be published in Japan.
It's a great art book but not that good an RPG.
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WilhelmRochRedDuke wrote:We are being told (currently via facebook) that Palladium will be reviewing everyhting soon.
Direct Quote
"We will be looking into Robotech miniatures soon. Promise. It's definitely near the top of Kevin's things to follow up on - after a little eating and sleeping."
-Tom
Good luck, keep in mind that's just a small first step.
To the folks screaming 'take my money' keep in mind this is a long shot, it's a great idea and if Voltron could be made why not Robotech.
I've been wanting real Robotech minis for three friggin' decades. Please make this happen. I've even considered playing (shudder) Tau, because they were the closest thing I could find. Me want hordes of Veritechs and Hovertanks blasting mudholes in xenos arses. It's such a great idea for a wargame, I just wonder why it hasn't been done right yet. When it happens, I'll probably end up on welfare, broke from buying so much.
I've placed a bunch of downloads up on the facebook page. We need to collect comments and likes on facebook so that we can show how much interest there is this project. It'll help us get things rolling a bit sooner. So if you have a facebook page please visit us and leave a comment about supporting the game.
There's pics of the current prototypes posted as well as WIP 3d models. There's also some links to two sets of potential playtest rules & printable mechs.
Marshal Severarse wrote:Looks good. No Facebook for me. I'm on an internet diet. But I'll be into this game once it's rolling.
kinda the point of the thread is that it WON'T be rolling without fans letting palladium know there is interest. Even with palladium on board, it's still no guarantee, but the possibility is there and, with support, might pull through
@paulson- thanks for the downloads! what is the difference between your version and the robotech battles? Are both sets being developed to see which is more viable or is your version just kinds your own take on the game for fun?
Just because the new models don't look as horrible as the old ones doesn't mean we should be lowering our standards. This new stuff is still pretty low quality sculpting.
Kalamadea wrote:
@paulson- thanks for the downloads! what is the difference between your version and the robotech battles? Are both sets being developed to see which is more viable or is your version just kinds your own take on the game for fun?
Tom and I had each been working on a differant rules set, this was all well prior to contacting Palladium. The systems are completely differant in terms of mechanics, I aimed a bit more for a streamline approach. I was thinking something along the lines of battletech but faster in terms of record keeping and with some warmachine type elements. I used a lot of mechanics from MSIA which was themed after gundam, but tweaked stuff to fit Robotech better. I'd wanted something that people could learn on the fly at conventions and have fun with as I don't see it being a super competitive toruney game.
Tom's Robotech Battles is a lot more complex in terms of tracking, but there's some rules that have a distinct Robotech feel. Another major difference was he was initally aiming for 1/144 scale so peopel could use model kits as the units. He's since come around to the smaller scales as it'd be difficult for people to enter into a game at that scale and price. (his rules are still set in 1/144 measurements, which needs updating) I've read through his rules but haven't had a chance to play it yet.
The stand ups I scaled at 1/285 scale so they should be in the proper height range as the minis would be, Tom also had some but thy were scaled for 1/144 models so they were pretty large. (they also looked the same on each side so it was kind hard to determine which side was a mechs rear arc) I scaled stuff to work with the 1/285 scale & measurements and fit on 40mm bases.
We're still waiting to discuss the rules with Palladium, they previous had an in house guy toying with a seperate system as well so we need to do a sit down and go over design goals and maybe cherry pick ideas from each system.
I threw some paint on one of the pods today, I'm not a pro-painter by any means but I think it's an ok tabletop quality and shows the detail fairly well. I'm working on getting some comission paint done which should look a lot better my paint job does.
I've placed an order for a spincasting machine. Giving time for delivery and to experiment with molds I should have some metal miniatures in about 6-8 weeks. I also just completed two more meshes which are headed out for printing so I should have the printed models for the zentraedi officer pod (glaug) and the phallanx destroid in about 2 weeks.
Breotan wrote:Just because the new models don't look as horrible as the old ones doesn't mean we should be lowering our standards. This new stuff is still pretty low quality sculpting.
Really?? Most everyone I've heard from thinks they are spot on with the animation designs. If there's flaws with the sculpts I'll gladly address what I can, do you have specific critique to offer? or just trolling?
I'd paint a few small forces for free. Damn I love the Macross saga. You gonna do Roy's VF1-S as a special character pack? And what'shisface's officer pod?
Yes I'll be doing a version for skull one and Khyron's pod. (the officer pod was just finished and headed to printing) I'll also be doing the zentraedi female power armor for Mirya.
The plan is to make all the unique characters. I also want t do some Zentraedi soilders outside the pods. That way people can fight it out with Breetai and Khyron outside their mechs and engage in scenarios taking place inside the Zentraedi ships..
Like Jon Said, My version of the game was slated for 1/144 scale. The scale is now going to be set for the 1/285 scale. That will not change any of the horizontal distances in the game, just possibly some of the vertical ones..
The game itself is geared towards the fast paced feel of the anime and I took some influence from the Robotech: Battlecry video game. The game plays along the lines of a warmachine, 40k or infinity game. being fast paced. The new game mechanic I've provided is that you do need to track missiles once they are fired because they have a movement rate and act independently from the person firing them. Should they miss they may reacquire the enemy and try to hit again. This is alot of fun in the game and gives it the missile swarm effect that you see in the show.
The two systems were created separately and Jon's rules were created for the fun Battletech feel based off of the MSIA rules as he stated above and mine were created from scratch with Robotech combat in mind. I've looked through Jon's rules and there are some great ideas in there.
Future rules to be included in Robotech Battles include additional morale effects, rules for the remaining Mecha involved with the second half of the first robotech war, scout battlepod effects including radar jamming and lots of scenarios to play with. Should things progress further there is room for the Malcontent uprisings.
Just to clarify, We are still early in the discussion phase and should we get a greenlight from Palladium we need to get the approval from Harmony Gold.
MightyGodzilla wrote:Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
Okay okay, I see your points. BT players will jump on them. Original point retracted and thrown in the dumpster :p
I remember playing first ed Battletech as a teeny, cardstock fold out maps and 1"x2" front/back cutouts, and the build your own mech system....3 PPCs looked cool, but man it racked up the heat. Heat, lol. So the six I see coming out of Macross/Robotech
and then from the Dougram anime..
Dougram = Griffin
and I never knew the name of the Nighthawk. Never knew which animes the Battlemaster or Locust came from, but the Locust was my favorite mech hands down. I even beat the first Mechwarrior computer game with one Locust!! Paulson you mentioned Dougram, are you doing any of them? Also I was wondering if you needed to get permission from anyone for using their likenesses or are they so old that copyrights are enforced or are you just not worrying about it?
And for the record I could see myself buying a ton of the RDF pieces and a shitton of pods...if they waz in scale. Keep them in scale please!!! Make a destroid Monster!
Love the idea, love the models. Ignore anyone who says they don't look right - they look true to the original designs and keep that Japanime feeling.
Want a Monster, Valks, and Zentraedi pods. If you stray a little into Battletech territory, Battlemaster.
Would you consider doing a fleet battles type game? I would be first in the queue for a version of the original SDF-1 with the ships for arms. I can't find one anywhere these days, and you could sell both versions, ship and robot forms.
Can't do anything about registering my interest as I currently don't have internet myself, have to rely on work, and sites like Facebook are blocked. No access to Wikis, Social networking, or media sharing. (Also means I don't get to see embedded video on other sites either.)
Dude, I've been waiting almost my entire life for a Robotech miniatures game. Best of luck to you while developing the system, I'm standing by with loads of cash to throw at you.
Subbed and Liked! Everything's looking great so far. I'd certainly love to see the super/strike veritechs at some point. Cyclones would be cool, but I can imagine they're going to be ridiculously tiny at that scale.
MightyGodzilla wrote:Macross has what, 6 miniatures that would be used in Battletechs lineup. BattleTech has what, another 200 miniatures besides what Paulson is working on. It'd be neet, but realistically it's a small drop in a big bucket for BattleTech.
Okay okay, I see your points. BT players will jump on them. Original point retracted and thrown in the dumpster :p
I remember playing first ed Battletech as a teeny, cardstock fold out maps and 1"x2" front/back cutouts, and the build your own mech system....3 PPCs looked cool, but man it racked up the heat. Heat, lol. So the six I see coming out of Macross/Robotech
Actually there's several more than 6. Battletech names of mechs pinched from Robotech were;
Wasp (+LAM Version)
Stinger (+LAM Version)
Phoenix Hawk (+LAM Version)
Valkyrie
Ostroc
Ostol...............................................These three were always a stretch to me
Ostscout
Archer
Warhammer
Rifleman
Longbow
Marauder
Marauder II
Behemoth
All said, I'm on board with this stuff. I got into Battletech because of Robotech and always wanted proper "pods" to use. Dark horse made some good minis back in the day for some of these. I think the work looks fantastic. Consider me a customer!
Crusader
[Edit] A side note to the link. They are using current art, so they might not look exaclty as the used to, for example the Longbow doesn't look anything like the original BT sculpt/art or the Robotech model it was based from.
Breotan wrote:Just because the new models don't look as horrible as the old ones doesn't mean we should be lowering our standards. This new stuff is still pretty low quality sculpting.
Really?? Most everyone I've heard from thinks they are spot on with the animation designs. If there's flaws with the sculpts I'll gladly address what I can, do you have specific critique to offer? or just trolling?
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I think he was trolling.
For what it's worth, the sculpts look fantastic to me, even at this stage - absolutely spot on.
Best of luck with this - will be watching with interest.
Robotech Miniatures will be attending Adepticon April 19th-22nd If you are attending look around and you might spot me squatting a table and running demos over the weekend.
I will also be running a raffle for a chance to win one of several squads of miniatures.
Actually there's several more than 6. Battletech names of mechs pinched from Robotech were;
Wasp (+LAM Version)
Stinger (+LAM Version)
Phoenix Hawk (+LAM Version)
Valkyrie
Ostroc
Ostol...............................................These three were always a stretch to me
Ostscout
Archer
Warhammer
Rifleman
Longbow
Marauder
Marauder II
Behemoth
Forgot the crusader, 60 ton BM = armored veritech
longbow = phalanx (spartan)
paulson games wrote:I will also be running a raffle for a chance to win one of several squads of miniatures.
Seriously though, looking forward to seeing them in person.
Thank you for that pic, that sums up my feelings about this rather nice. I have a FB account that I never use, but im going to log in and vote those pics up.
Can't wait for the Officers Battle Pod, Might have to order three like Kamjinn had =o]
cruelcynic wrote:I had all those. Makes me wish I never sold my old BT stuff.
I have a Battletech collection that would make people call me insane.
They are mostly stripped and boxed at the moment, but I have (at last count) 72 Mechs for each House that are period specific to 3039 and earlier. Most of them are the Unseens listed, are not repros, and aren't missing any pieces. Each force for the Houses has 8 aerospace fighters (appropriate to that House) attached. I also have each Merc unit as their TO&E stood at the time their original scenario books were printed. So again, more Unseens, usually 12 Mechs per depending on outift. My Grey Death Legion is actually in my Gallery. I also have 2 cases full of armor and infantry.
And that's just the metal stuff!
My love of the Robotech cartoons, novels, movies, art, etc... drove me into Battletechs arms over 25 years ago.
I stand ready with a briefcase full of cash waiting to be a customer!
paulson games wrote:
I should have the printed models for the zentraedi officer pod (glaug)
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WHAT!?!?!?! The battletech Marauder (based off the Glaug) is one of my favorite mechs. If they get made Id buy all the Destroids for sure, but likely several Glaugs.
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TalonZahn wrote:
cruelcynic wrote:I had all those. Makes me wish I never sold my old BT stuff.
I have a Battletech collection that would make people call me insane.
They are mostly stripped and boxed at the moment, but I have (at last count) 72 Mechs for each House that are period specific to 3039 and earlier. Most of them are the Unseens listed, are not repros, and aren't missing any pieces.
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At the peak of my BT collecting/playing (about 12 years ago) I had 120+ mechs. Many of them were unseens or conversions/customs based off unseens. after meeting my wife I gave them away thinking Id never game again...such a fool...
I wanted to thank everyone who made it out to the demos at Adepticon, I really appreciate the feedback and comments I recieved as well as all the compliments on the miniatures.
It was a blast bringing the game there and I hope everyone had a a great time, it certainly looked like everyone was enjoying it. I had about 30 people sit through the games and everyone that participated got a mini for doing so.
I'll be returning to my dungeon to start work on the next batch of mecha and hope to have some new models to post soon.
Winterdyne was kind enough to send me some pics of a much more professionally painted mini than what I could manage, awesome work.
Paulson, you are a cruel, cruel man for posting pictures like that when I cannot PURCHASE the pictured miniature yet. Dear god please make the torture end and TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Well if you are signed on the Facebook page I am going to have a drawing for those that couldn't make it to Adepticon, so there's a chance you can win one.
I should be picking the random winners sometime next week.
Great to see a painted example and the game in-action. Good luck on getting these into production. I may have said this previously, but as long as these aren't more expensive than BT minis, I'll definitely be picking up some Destroids and a Glaug. I've got some of the plastic and metal BT versions. They are nice, but BT mechs have advanced quite a bit since then. Your sculpts look to be on par with current BT figs, which is definitely a good thing!.
paulson games wrote:Well if you are signed on the Facebook page I am going to have a drawing for those that couldn't make it to Adepticon, so there's a chance you can win one.
I should be picking the random winners sometime next week.
www.facebook.com/robotechminiatures/
"Liking" is all that is required? Cause I've done that
We should do a petition for this. Paulson you could also draft off this petition a list of pricing and projected earnings and expenses for you and HG and then a plausible royalty fee that HG could profit from this and at what expense to them.
Doing this will let them know how serious you are and compiled with the petition will let them and you know potential income as well as expenses and time invested.
I stopped in at Adepticon and played and chatted a good long while. It was great to meet you and to see your passion for this idea/game/epic story. And thanks a MILLION for the minis you sent along with me. I hope to add more to the collection.
The game was easy and fun, and it was awesome to blast Zentraedi Battle Pods by the handful and destroy buildings in the process. It really captures the fast-paced fun of the mecha battles from the series.
Congrats, and best of luck with all of this.
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Conrad Turner wrote:
Would you consider doing a fleet battles type game? I would be first in the queue for a version of the original SDF-1 with the ships for arms. I can't find one anywhere these days, and you could sell both versions, ship and robot forms.
I'd be all about a fleet battles type game too. So much potential for all of this.
I've seen a transformable SDF-1 w/ carrier arms over in Asia. Look online, like ebay etc,. Not sure about the scale though.
Original point retracted and thrown in the dumpster :p
