I've read through the thread relating to the upcoming price increase and it seems that people here on dakka are split over how much it effects/doesn't effect their hobby. Personally, I could live with most of the minor price increases, but some of them just seem so strange that it almost feels offensive to me, like the price of the land raider and storm raven. I feel in a way that GW is very distant or detached from it's customer base. That isn't to say that I think everyone should feel the way I do about the increase, but it is my personal opinion.

Couple this increase in price with the problems I have had dealing with finecast models this last year and I am to the point where I don't really want to spend much more money with GW. I had planned to expand my necrons with some of the new wraiths, canoptek spiders, and night scythes, but I don't think I'll be doing that now. I won't say that I'm not ever spending another dollar with them, because I know I will be picking up an ork bomma and the new edition rulebook, and maybe a few odds and ends now and then, I'll also continue reading Black Library books, but I'm done with major purchases. I planned to start a chaos marine army in the winter, and that is definitely out of the question now.

I will continue to play 40k and fantasy. I have three 40k armies and one fantasy army that will serve me just fine in that regard. So what will I do with my hobby budget now that it won't be getting spent on 40k?

I've been looking for an excuse to try out many different games. I have about 35 points of Khador models sitting on the shelf that need to be assembled and painted. I'll likely expand upon that force. I have a Lilith starter crew unopened on the shelf as well. I'll be sinking money into expanding my Neverborn. I also ordered the Infinity rulebook and an Aleph starter pack. I'm most excited by this right now, and will probably get to painting them as soon as they arrive. There is not really an Infinity presence at my FLGS, but I really am into the models so much that I think I'll enjoy just painting and dispaying them.

Beyond those systems that I have already made some investment into, there are two other games I am itching try, and that I think, because of their low cost of entry, will be ideal for talking others into playing. Brushfire is the first. I don't know much about the game at all, but have admired the models for quite some time. The other is Blackwater Gulch, which I really love the idea of the American old west setting. I've already been looking at a few miniature companies to find cool western style models.

I can not say that I am thankful for this current price increase, but coupled with the problems I have experienced with finecast models, a door has opened for me, which has expanded my desire to play other wargames systems. I'm excited at the prospect of painting models from many different lines, and maybe meeting some new players outside of the warhammer group I play with.

Warmachine.

40k stuff probably. I've just built up a big Valhallan army, but it's all been secondhand and would be no more or less expensive before or after the price hike. I might start an Eldar army when they get a new codex and I finish these Valhallans, but it's something way the hell out there for me. I live alone and have a good job so I can afford $3 more on a Rhino or whatever. Even so, it doesn't invalidate the piles of models I have already.

I am, however, going to be picking up some Defiance Games stuff. I like their "harder" sci-fi models, and look forward to them getting a more comprehensive range of models. I've also got an interest in Dust, but I feel like I'll be WW2'd out after I finish my Valhallans.

40k, I just will stop spending 300$ a month so more like 100$
maybe one hug pack a week.

probably i will go to buying large forgeworld models.

but then again i go to local GW store so we can't use other game systems.

@Brother SRM: I love the look of the older metal IG variants.

I will continue spending my money on future FoW armies. I will not be spending anymore money on GW miniatures, I have completed my IG and am using 3rd party miniatures for my CD.

I've really got enough GW stuff to keep me going for, well, if I'm honest then I'll probably never even finish painting the many hundreds of unpainted models in my collection. I'll still pick up the odd model or two here and there, but I've finally got a large army that plays well and has a paint job that I'm happy with, so I doubt I'll be starting a new force any time soon.

However, I've just dipped my toes into the oceans of Dystopian Wars and I'm loving the hell out of it. I expect that most of my gaming budget will be given to Spartan Games over the next few months

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I doubt my habits will change massively. I will continue buying Mantic whenever they produce something cool that I want, Red Box if I feel like something really pretty, Hordes for my gaming fix and I will buy the odd thing for my Warhammer collections when GW release plastics that are nice enough to justify it.

I find the hobby generally pretty pricey, so I shy away from spending on a "full army" unless I can work out a way to make it pretty cheap. Warmachine seems to be an exception to this, as the modular nature of the purchases makes it "feel" like less money, even though it's as expensive (or more expensive) in some places.

The remainder of 2012's budget is going toward 6th edition 40k and a new 4x4 game board in post (zombie) apocalypse theme. Trying to decide if I want to make a display board for my GK in the next month for the Armies on Parade... probably not. I have 4 armies I like and only need to add to them, never had any interest in xeno armies so when new CSM comes around is when I will first feel the new prices. By then I will be so rabid for new CSM it won't matter (and GW know that!).

I have just about everything I would ever need for my Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Demons, Orks and IG. I will need a bit of new stuff with the New Chaos on the horizon, but ill pick it all up on release day, regardless of cost. I am not going give up on 40k / Years of work + 1000's of dollars over a price increase. I can't even imagine how many price increases we have lived through up to this point.

After all the new GW, my budget will be going towards finishing up my Farrow up to 50 point and then 50 points of Seaforge Dwarves (Since GW won't bring back Squats)

I am also expanding my Malifaux, but we will see how far that goes. The model quality is a little lacking for my tastes.

GW products. I will be buying 3 Fightas, I will probably get at least one Stormtalon to loot for my orks and then when 6th edition drops, I will buy whatever bitz/models I need to convert to whatever new weapon options I don't already have.

Then I will go back to purchasing random FW or 3rd party models/bitz for whatever project I am working on at the time, until GW releases new Greenskin codex or models for me to buy.

I will not be buying any 3rd party parts which do not fit in with the scale and look of nelson-orks. This means yes to Pupperwars, Kromlech, Forgeworld, Maxmini and so on and not a dime to mantic ever.

I may be getting some PP to convert to 40k orks as I have seen some warjack limbs to ork cybork conversions which really work. I also like the Hordes models for the swamp creatures like gators and turtles which may end up as a bloodbowl team or just fun display models.

Oh, and if Bloodbowl shows up this year, I will be giving GW a fist full of money too.

So basically nothing will change because the price increase is not at all unreasonable or even a blip on my radar. 2/3rds of GW's customers never play the game and buy GW explicitly for the models because I like how they look so if they release a model I want, I buy it. I don't find GW's prices at all out of line with the other model companies I buy from. All the ones who make models which look good enough to be justified to be bought cost similar prices per model or per bit.

hotsauceman1 wrote:40k, I just will stop spending 300$ a month so more like 100$
maybe one hug pack a week.

$300 a month? That's a new army every 2 months, even with the latest price increase.

Personally, the price change isn't going to affect me. I've got a few things I'll buy from GW, but no new armies planned. Some Empire stuff, another Arachnarok, maybe some Mk IV armor from FW, but that's about it.

My Warriors of Chaos army is going to be almost entirely 3rd party. Just need to find some marauders...

After last years GW price rise I more or less said 'no' to buying a new GW army. I wrote this article on it.....
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/390346.page

So now where am I? I'm playing Dust Tactics every week. This for me is by far the best, the most tactically challenging game I've ever played and we love it. I cannot recommend this enough. If you actually want something that really tests you, but is a fun game, then this is for you. I liken it to Space Hulk; easy to learn but difficult to master.

Firestorm Armada; a great skirmish game from Spartan Games. Very cheap to get into, a rule book and starter fleet is less than 45 GBP. Well supported and although not as good as Dust Tactics, still a great game.

Sedation Wars. I've always been a huge fan of Mike Mcvey since his early GW days. His Space Hulk Diorama from the early 1990's is still my favourite. I've just pledged $100 on the Kickstarter page to get a copy of this game.

On the GW front, I luckily bought all my Orks when they came out and 3 years on I'm still putting them together, although I'm aiming to finish them by summer end. I'll buy new things to keep my armies updated, but won't be investing in a new army. The prices for me are now just too much.

TheSecretSquig wrote:Sedation Wars. I've always been a huge fan of Mike Mcvey since his early GW days. His Space Hulk Diorama from the early 1990's is still my favourite. I've just pledged $100 on the Kickstarter page to get a copy of this game.

Sedition Wars, chief - though I like the idea of a war being fought with knock-out drugs

I think you'll enjoy it when you get it, too.

I'm getting into Dystopian Wars more and more.
I don't regularly spend that much these days, but when I do I tend to drop quite a bit.
I might do another SM army when the new codex comes out though.

Finish 3k of Tomb kings, retweak my tyranids to playable.

That should take me to the end of the year. Then I will start to focus my Daemons into mostly mono-god lists.

Dropzone Commander looks pretty enticing, but I'll probably flesh out my Brushfire Scyzantines.

I picked up Freeblades at Adepticon and wouldn't mind getting into it a little more.

GW's getting an extended break from my money, which honestly doesn't change much. The only GW I've bought recently was actually Forgeworld except for some 2nd hand stuff I nabbed at Adepticon's Gamer Flea Market.

I've been more of a collector/painter since about 1983 or so. The majority of my collection is made up of GW but I do dip into other ranges as I become aware of them; this ranges from a single model to a squad or more. Late last year I became very bored with the arms race that I see GW has turned into; 'buy this or your army will never win!'. So I decided then that the finishing touches to my last 2 armies would be it for me and GW. Through Amazon I managed to get all the bits I wanted really cheap(otherwise I wouldn't have bothered). This year I've decided to just buy whatever ranges or single figures caught my eye. So far I've got figures from Denizen, Defiance, Anvil, Warforge,Foundry and Statuesque in Edinburgh. As I find new exciting stuff via the web and Dakka I'll buy even more!
I used to get angry about being priced out of the 'hobby'. Now I've realised that there are many many other avenues of the hobby to explore. GW can make us perhaps too insular;not any more!

I only model and paint, I don't really play 40k. My Space Marine army is mostly collected. I've bought a total of 5 new-on-sprue kits, and I've decided that is going to be it. The rest is second hand. I will probably buy a few more metal models and old-school rhinos off of ebay to flesh out the force, but I don't plan on giving GW another cent, and that includes their paint.

Reaper Miniatures will be getting more of my hobby budget, because their stuff is amazing.

With the 10K of chaos Ive got, all I need to do Is pick up the new rule book and codex when they come out,
no more model buying for me,

Im spending all my spare money on coke, pills and tickets to HTID events

I'll still buy GW stuff, just not directly from them. I've been pleased by Wayland Games' service so they'll be my go-to from now on.

Not sure what I will buy, but the new edition 40k starter set is definitely on the list.

I'll be spending it on 40K and fantasy. As usual.

I was originally introduced to the hobby late last year through the 40k videogames (specifically, Dawn of War 2: Retribution), the setting really interested me, and I thought "Maybe this is my chance to get into a more creative hobby", so I picked up the painting starter kit.

A couple hundred dollars and almost a year later, I realize I wasn't entirely sure what I was getting into. Between seeing how GW treats its customers and how much money you really have to spend to get a decent sized army, I got really disheartened about playing the game itself, though I still enjoyed painting the models (even if I'm not that good at it).

The price hikes really were the final straw for me. I admit at the moment my family is not that well off and I was already heavily digging into the small "stuff for fun" budget I already had and even feeling a bit guilty about it sometimes. Recently I've learned that when a company shows signs of really genuinely not caring about their customers and trying lots of cash grabbing schemes, it's better to drop them right then instead of sticking around only to be even more disappointed later on.

For now I'm getting into Warmachine and very interested in Infinity. I think Skirmish games are probably more my style anyway, because I'd prefer to collect small "armies" of multiple factions and play multiple, shorter games, than to throw hundreds and hundreds and only have one faction to play a game for hours and hours and hours, personally.

All of this is my own personal experience / feelings of course, I'm not putting down people who like army-sized games or still plan to support GW, it's just not my thing.

Orks

My orks have weathered every price raise since RT so far.

Mind you, looking back, the price raise in total is kind of obscene... :(

Since I have no need for the stormraven or land raiders or finecast dark elves I guess I'll spend the money on the normal stuff.

It is pretty absurd to raise some models by 25% but most stuff is just inflation (Although I disagree with that since inflation is currently at historic lows, but thats their justification

All products rise in price but the main difference is GW has no real direct competitors for the products they produce.. so they can do whatever they want I suppose.

I'll be buying new products but I don't need old stuff so we'll see what the price the new stuff at.

My money (what a joke ) will be going to people on E-bay with good deals for FW / IG / 3rd party items (RSJake ) / new tau items. Otherwise besides the new Tau Codex (again E-bay, most likely) im gonna be looking into other games (NOT WARMACHINE ) and playing smaller games with what i got.

Lately, my group has been running small kill team games with 2-3 squads and keeping the plots and stories as a guide for upgrades and such. The games become a lot more exciting on a 4x4 when your not seeing 6x chimeras, 2 valks , melta everywhere and plasma

Honestly, we are burned out on the arms race that GW tried to make us a part of and we as a group decided we wanted no part of it. Keep your melta,plasma and APC's. Its the infantry that win wars anyway.

Some of our group did go WM/H but i refuse to believe that "its cheaper". PM me if you want to argue that but its only my honest opioion.

we've been making up new game modes:

Last stand (Like DOW:II's) on the table top
Kill Team with extra fluff / background
Zombie Escape!
and other ideas.

Its really whatever we want to do for the day. Thats the fun in gaming, not winning with your plastic army men against others plastic army men but having a good time.

Games-Workshop. I actually find it funny how much people complain about the price increases. If you were already into this hobby, you knew it was expensive and overpriced from the beginning. The price increases are just a drop in the bucket when you look at the overall of what you accepted to pay when you entered the hobby.

It wasn't that spendy a hobby to get into when I started in 1987

You could build your own tanks from deoderant containers and plastic toys, and they recommended only having a few models in your army

It is now

Of course my income is higher now too, and i'm too hooked to quit anytime soon

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:40k, I just will stop spending 300$ a month so more like 100$
maybe one hug pack a week.

$300 a month? That's a new army every 2 months, even with the latest price increase.

Or, possibly, a lot of subsidiary stuff like 3rd party cases, Forgeworld models, scenery, etc.

I will continue to buy new releases for my existing GW armies but I don't see myself starting a new force any time soon.

I might get into Dropzone Commander if the rules are good, although I very recently bought two large 15mm scale sci-fi forces.

I'll buy a new car and house with the money I'll save.

More Forgeworld stuff.....also ebay and mail-order...never from GW store

Dropship comm/infinity/warpath

Defo not GW unfortunatly, and its a shame as with the new DA dex coming out (hopefully) this year, i would have droped a ton of cash

My hobby spending habits will be unaffected. War gaming is just one of many.

I'll finish my Beastmen....Then. I'm not sure. I'm not going to invest more then $150 more into LOTR and Privateer Press is meh. It was a fad at my local club.

I won't be buying anymore GW stuff.
I've ordered the Malifaux rule book, two card decks and two starter crews. I also want some more stuff for my WFPA Heavy Gear army but I'll wait until the new books come. My Warmachine armies need some love but I have to see if there's any Warmahordes players in Luleå before I buy any more Warmachine stuff. Going to move there tomorrow since I finally got a job.

It's a bit sad that when I get a job GW raise the prices. I can definitely afford it now but I'm so damn tired of GWs attitude .

I just sold a small SM army and I'm spending it on a ton of Menoth troops. Morrowans and Tharamites shall feel the wrath of the creator!

New stuff tends to be Infinity at the moment or terrain from non-GW sources.
(I haven't bought new GW in over a year - and even before that it was at most 2-3 pieces a year for the last 10 - the bulk of my armies were assembled by 3rd edition.)

If I see some GW stuff I like 2nd hand I might get it, but I'm done with buying it new.

Stopped quite a while back, but I've been spending -and will likely continue as such- my $ on a few things

-More post apoc miniatures and die-cast cars for conversions. Scavengers, cops, salvagers and savages mostly
-A platoon of Alternative Armies Retained knights (wanted these guys for years and now I've got them!)
-Picking up a bit of GW marines and a few oddities from the RT era as I find them, but not too often.

The club has a Song of Blades Fantasy campaign this summer, and I've already bought the necessary figs so there's even less incentive to buy new figs, though hopefully I'll be able to get some painting done.

Infinity.

Well I wanted another SR and was thinking about picking up a LR with a few DCA.

Since my FLGS told me about the increase (Same night the rumor hit the site). I have started up a Khador army.

I'll still play my GK and Eldar, but I wont be buying much more from GW, probably just the 6th ed rulesbook if it isn't over $60, and if it drasticaly changes the metta of the game forcing me to remake my armies I'm just gonna sell them. I get that its an expensive game, but for me it has hit the point that I just wont buy my toys at these prices.

Brushfire is going to be getting my money and attention... I've been painting my minis and the more I work on them, the more interested I am becoming...

GW has lost me by the neglect of my primary, favorite armies (Sisters and Wood Elves), and the ridiculous price increases on my back up, next faves (Orks and OnG). I also have Lizards and Vamps for Fantasy, but the game itself is just... boring. If I wanted to roll dice and have random things happen, I'd go shoot craps. It would probably cost less overall, too.

GW lost me after the last time they pulled thier crap.

Now I am an avid skirmish game player, and have enough GW stuff to fund my gaming habits for a few years.

Trade one for the others.


A shame too. I still have a soft spot for rogue trader, and 2d edition stuff. ( yes, I'm still going to keep the orks. )

More Necrons.

Forgeworld, building a few awesome tables, terrain materials, and possibly dropzone commander. FoW looks awesome but pricey to get into at first.... Any other games that have a realistic military tactics appeal..?

LOTR, and Warmahordes, the last price increase they were overstepping their mark, now this...

Nope I will get 6th ed and new chaos dex but from now on ill play with what Ive got...

Mantic!

I am finishing out my guard, putting some money away for 6th, then going for Waramahordes and Infinity.

Not bought direct from GW main for a long time, not counting the occasional Specialist Games purchase.

SciFi: I'll still buy from Forgeworld. Ebay for my other needs. Looking at the new sedition wars game as well

For Fantasy: Banelegions only for me

I just bought the Warmachine starter box like 2 mins ago online.

I will still buy 6th ed box set but I have loads of 40K/FW armies already.

If Warmachine ruleset plays as well as everyone says it does I will be spending big on it

Malifaux and other not GW stuff. Same is it has been for 4 years now. I love not paying GW to screw their player base. They increase prices to give less content in white dwarf. If you don't play the new hot army then your chances of winning in events is crippled. If you own certain armies, you will never compete, even in friendly games because of the lack of balance that they promote.

As I said, I love not GW games. So much more to love.

I am dropping 40k, and am going to focus more on Flames of War. Maybe a late war polish insurgent army.

Not in any particular order

Firestorm: Armada
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/games/firestorm-armada

Already own every Fleet available. Simple, yet detailed set of rules. The flight pegs they have are a bit annoying though.

Uncharted Seas
http://www.spartangames.co.uk/games/uncharted-seas

Game is more fun than snorting crushed skittles off h***er t***ies. Or as I like to call Skitties.

Norsegard
http://www.norsgard.com/news/temple-orcs-and-more.html

I don't know much about this game, other than I like the minis, theme and a quick glance of the rules, it looks fun.

Bushido
http://www.bushido-thegame.com/

Fun and refreshing theme in the miniatures game world.

Still wanna finish my purchases for Blood Angels, but don't think I will start that Fantasy Army I was planning on.

lonedrow02 wrote:Forgeworld, building a few awesome tables, terrain materials, and possibly dropzone commander. FoW looks awesome but pricey to get into at first.... Any other games that have a realistic military tactics appeal..?

It can be done at a cheaper price. Especially if you buy 3rd party models.
http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/world-war-2/15mm-german-infantry-company
http://theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=oktfgftgf9sqa0g3v856t3ple6

Here is a link on how to start a FOW force
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Starting_a_Flames_of_War_Force

If anybody has any questions on how to start a FOW army either pm, or check out the FOW section of the forum.

There is also Force on Force, which is a rules set that deals with post ww2 up to the modern day.
http://ambushalleygames.com/products/store/product/show/cid-17/name-force-on-force/category_pathway-0

Just buying fewer models or cheaper models, as well as more going to cheaper online retailers. Also, probably a bigger focus on quality over quantity, only buying one chimera instead of 2, but buying a fancy FW turret because I can and it looks nicer.

Spaceships.

So many spaceships.

So good to hear so many of you resisting the sunk cost fallacy, and looking further afield than GW!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs

Ian Sturrock wrote:So good to hear so many of you resisting the sunk cost fallacy, and looking further afield than GW!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs

I thought that......lots of new systems being considered

I am done buying 40k stuff

Warhammer Fantasy on ebay and elsewhere, Forge World as it's cheaper than GW these days, Mantic a lot, Reaper, Troll Forged and maybe Banebeasts if I save up a lot

i am definatelly going to try out infinity...i can't stop thinking about it and i love GitS so i have to get into it sooner or later.

Also malifaux looks really cool so i'll look into that.

But i will still get occasional 40k stuff, the odd blister here or there maybe a couple more things depending on how my list evolves, but i'm very close to havenig a completed army now so i guess we will see.

Continuing my fantasy chaos, O&G and empire armies (had to rebuild all from scratch), ignoring marines for a bit (don't need anything else for BT or CFs, and considering starting a Khador WM army, especially with that gorgeous summer deal. Does anybody have a good reason why I shouldn't pick up WM? Cuz right now my judgement is slipping, and having a full army for $125 is gravy.

A single new ork flyer. That will most likely be it. It just looks fun to play. After that, I am not sure anything in a GW line. Most likely will continue to expand my Malifaux or Dystopian Wars.

Ill stay with the "GW hobby", though I plan on doing more scratchbuilding and even start using proxies. I already ordered a 1:48 Hobby Boss KV tank for my orks, its a vehicle the size of Leman Russ and yet costs just about 10 USD

Malifaux, and hopefully (finally) buy myself a new bike and cycling gear. As many other posters have said, I've got a couple of 40k armies and one Fantasy one (all finished), and really don't want / can't afford to start another. To be honest, even the current game system is pushing me further into skirmish-level games, which I enjoy quite a lot more than watching my wood elves being beaten back by steadfast hordes

Forgeworld all the way, I did not planned on spending that much money on GW stuff anyways (mostly supplies) and I found the ideal website for all my bits need.

Definitely:
- Infinity, including loads of stuff to finish off a board and try and make it like a 'living city' (so civilians, security and police forces etc.) as well as a few more factions!
- The Sedition Wars kick starter (both for itself, and to use some of the minis with Infinity)
- Mantic Kings of War army (Orcs)

If money/time allows:
- Mid-war FoW
- Bushido/Malifaux/Dust

Same as usual. Tyranids for 40k, Haqqislam for Infinity.

I'm actually planning a Space Marine army as well now that within a few purchases my Tyranids will be 'done' enough to move onto something new. Granted it'll mostly be Forgeworld stuff in that Space Marine army.

6th Edition 40K. Maybe start an Ogre army, just 20% slower than I could have this year.

Same thing I have been spending my hobby budget on for the last couple of years... nothing GW but just misc models from other companies and more recently Infinity. Just spent some money on some Infinity terrain and a couple of gaming mats.

Have pretty much completed all the purchases I need for my marines, so no real plans to buy any more bar the odd impulse/forgeworld purchase.

My tau are sitting in a box waiting for an update. If the new codex drops and is decent, I may get some of the new units to round it out.

My IG army is unfinished and I can't justify the spending I'd need to do on Hydras, chimeras and valkyries to make it work. Half of this stuff is still on sprue as I hadn't got to the stage of having enough to be competitive. With the price rise and a drop in enthusiasm I've given up on this army. I'll keep my painted stuff and some bits for scratchbuilding necromunda models and sell the rest.

I've bought Khador and Haqqislam starter packs in the last six months and intend to spend most of my time painting and playing with them.

In terms of new purchases, possibly might buy into the Sedition Wars starter pack, and other than that, terrain and Infinity. No new GW for the foreseeable.

40k.

At the end of the day, the people that are kicking off are unhealthily obsessed with the hobby. I have maybe 3000 points of SM, I don't see the point in buying much more because I never play games past 2k anyway.. so If I do end up buying more, its only going to be the odd model anyway.

I really don't understand people that have 30,000 points worth of models and what have you.. where the hell do you guys keep them all anyway!?

Will continue with 40K, just not going to start any new armies, so I have Guard and Orks and that will be it for the forseeable future.

Will still add to those two on occasion, but will also be refocusing a lot of time towards Mordheim, Infinity, and board games in general.

Have picked up a load of scenery this week from wayland due to their offer, plus finally got a Baneblade and Stompa, so with other bits and pieces I still need to put together I'm going to be pretty busy for the rest of the year.

The only other thing I can see me picking up this year, will be the 6th edition rulebook when it arrives, oh and Blood Bowl if that did appear at some point. Otherwise, my GW spending for 2012 is done.

Thinking about a new marine army using the IA10 seige army list and the forgeworld MK5 armour. Still pondering that one though.

From OP -

I've been looking for an excuse to try out many different games

From Seric's post-

will continue spending my money on future FoW armies

From Kaldor -

I've really got enough GW stuff to keep me going for, well, if I'm honest then I'll probably never even finish painting the many hundreds of unpainted models in my collection

From BOss -

I doubt my habits will change massively. I will continue buying Mantic

From Soldado -

have just about everything I would ever need for my Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Demons, Orks and IG

squig -

fter last years GW price rise I more or less said 'no' to buying a new GW army. I wrote this article on it.....
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/390346.page

Ross boy -

With the 10K of chaos Ive got, all I need to do Is pick up the new rule book and codex when they come out,
no more model buying for me,


Guys, that's just from page 1. What I've seen with the majority of posts both here and on other boards, the majority of people complaining about the price increase weren't going to buy anything anyway or they were just looking for an excuse to do something else, because GW was already overpriced and their economics aren't a fit for a massively expensive hobby.

I went to my FLGS yesterday and there was a dude there, known him a year...he hasn't bought ANYTHING in that year, he has his same SM chapter army...all painted. He never hobbies, all he does is enter tourneys and games. He'll go to the shop and sit at the hobby table until someone he knows wants to play.

Anyway, so we are all talking about the price increases, specifically about the Land Raider and he says. "prices are getting raised again!! I think I'm just going to quit...$75 for a land raider is just too much". To which I replied "You were going to buy a land raider?". And he said, after a pause "No, just sayin..."

If you think the price raise is too much, then buy something in the next week...if you think it's already overpriced now, then GW hasn't lost anything...cuz you weren't going to buy anyway.

That's mostly what I see. When I see the people "my spending will decrease"...ok, that should be a concern for GW. The vast majority of the people who don't buy stuff saying they still aren't going to buy stuff...it's just complaining for the sake of being a hater.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:Guys, that's just from page 1. What I've seen with the majority of posts both here and on other boards, the majority of people complaining about the price increase weren't going to buy anything anyway or they were just looking for an excuse to do something else, because GW was already overpriced and their economics aren't a fit for a massively expensive hobby... The vast majority of the people who don't buy stuff saying they still aren't going to buy stuff...it's just complaining for the sake of being a hater.

I'd love to start buying GW stuff again and it is not just the prices keeping me away; there are a number of GW policies/decisions which I do not agree with that made me feel that I no longer wanted to hand over my money to GW but would rather give it to other companies. My overall spending on gaming related products has not changed significantly, just where I spend it. GW are, because of the way they have behaved (or how I perceive them to have behaved), now missing out on the £X I would have spent with them which I now spend with other companies.

The latet price gouging just ensures that I am even less likely to give my money to GW than before. A simple fact. Just because you don't want to believe people can possibly see GW in a negative light doesn't mean the people voicing those opinions are haters complaining for the sake of it.

SilverMK2 wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:Guys, that's just from page 1. What I've seen with the majority of posts both here and on other boards, the majority of people complaining about the price increase weren't going to buy anything anyway or they were just looking for an excuse to do something else, because GW was already overpriced and their economics aren't a fit for a massively expensive hobby... The vast majority of the people who don't buy stuff saying they still aren't going to buy stuff...it's just complaining for the sake of being a hater.

I'd love to start buying GW stuff again and it is not just the prices keeping me away; there are a number of GW policies/decisions which I do not agree with that made me feel that I no longer wanted to hand over my money to GW but would rather give it to other companies. My overall spending on gaming related products has not changed significantly, just where I spend it. GW are, because of the way they have behaved (or how I perceive them to have behaved), now missing out on the £X I would have spent with them which I now spend with other companies.

The latet price gouging just ensures that I am even less likely to give my money to GW than before. A simple fact. Just because you don't want to believe people can possibly see GW in a negative light doesn't mean the people voicing those opinions are haters complaining for the sake of it.

You don't spend $ on GW now and won't after the price increase...that was just my point. I don't agree with a TON of what GW does honestly, they replace good managers who know a ton about the hobby with people who have never run a business and don't even know/like the hobby because sales are sagging due to GW decisions and the economy...that's garbage, they've termied alot of solid people. They are closing a pretty busy GW store here in Washington, which sucks, because the manager went to run the bunker and they replaced him with someone who knew nothing about the hobby and has no passion for the hobby and I don't think has the ability to run a business. When I went to Games Day in LA a few years back, I met a few of the corporate guys...they didn't have the passion for the hobby and game that I'd expect, they were business people. That was a let down.

But all of this price complaining just smacks of hating for the sake of hating something you already hate. OK, you don't like GW's policies..you weren't buying anything before, still won't buy anything...point taken

Short answer: Battletech.

Long answer: The price increase is coming at a time when I am nearing completion on two of my three armies so I don't foresee too many GW purchases unless something particularly interesting catches my eye. That frees up my GW funds to indulge in my old love of `Mechs. IWM is going to have a great second half of 2012 thanks to me.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:What I've seen with the majority of posts both here and on other boards, the majority of people complaining about the price increase weren't going to buy anything anyway or they were just looking for an excuse to do something else, because GW was already overpriced and their economics aren't a fit for a massively expensive hobby.

I went to my FLGS yesterday and there was a dude there, known him a year...he hasn't bought ANYTHING in that year, he has his same SM chapter army...all painted. He never hobbies, all he does is enter tourneys and games. He'll go to the shop and sit at the hobby table until someone he knows wants to play.

Anyway, so we are all talking about the price increases, specifically about the Land Raider and he says. "prices are getting raised again!! I think I'm just going to quit...$75 for a land raider is just too much". To which I replied "You were going to buy a land raider?". And he said, after a pause "No, just sayin..."

If you think the price raise is too much, then buy something in the next week...if you think it's already overpriced now, then GW hasn't lost anything...cuz you weren't going to buy anyway.

That's mostly what I see. When I see the people "my spending will decrease"...ok, that should be a concern for GW. The vast majority of the people who don't buy stuff saying they still aren't going to buy stuff...it's just complaining for the sake of being a hater.

That is not really true in my case. I can't speak for others, but I have been looking for an excuse to get into other games for some time. I haven't though, because I consistently put my money into the two games I enjoy so much, 40k and WHF. I won't be putting much money into those systems any more. I was ready to spend quite a bit on new necron models this month, and three ork bommas. I've now decided to pick up only one ork bomma out of frustration with GW. The rest of my budget is getting redirected to other companies, whose systems, I've wanted to try for awhile. The chaos marine army I planned on starting when the new codex comes out is out of the question as well, unless GW at the very least, fix their finecast issues, and perhaps bring their miniatures costs in line with other companies.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:You don't spend $ on GW now and won't after the price increase...that was just my point.

This is a good point. maybe the question should be: "who was fine with the last price increase but is now quitting?" the answer is probably no one. Almost everyone in these multiple threads are the same voices who cried out last year and the year before and the threads are almost the exact same words with the same moral outrage.

GW has said 2/3rds of the customers of GW models *DONT EVEN PLAY THE GAME* which means people on a gaming forum looking for games to play are basically not GW's customerbase and really never were. Veteran players are not the focus and they know it. People who play tourneys but never buy anything are pretty common too.

And with GW's model release schedule... if your model isn't the focus, they really don't care. You really think they expect Tau players to be buying hundreds of dollars when they haven't released tau rules or models in years? And as soon as any of our individual armies get focus, all these people who swore they quit buying end up buying because "I want it and I should get things I want!" I know about 3-dozen ork players who swore they hate GW and will never buy another dime all equivocating on how they are maintaining their moral stance but still getting 3 ork jets next month.

Honestly, if you were really able to quit buying GW plasticrack, you already did. If you are still buying you probably always will.

beer

ergotoxin wrote:Ill stay with the "GW hobby", though I plan on doing more scratchbuilding and even start using proxies. I already ordered a 1:48 Hobby Boss KV tank for my orks, its a vehicle the size of Leman Russ and yet costs just about 10 USD

i was going to say, getting tons of Plasti-Card. but i guess im not the only one

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:But all of this price complaining just smacks of hating for the sake of hating something you already hate. OK, you don't like GW's policies..you weren't buying anything before, still won't buy anything...point taken

So people can't voice the fact that they are not buying stuff from GW because they are not buying stuff from GW?

Nor do I "hate" GW by the way...

My orks don't need more models, beyond three ork bombers. I need to get the little buggers painted is all (and it's a BIG all... it should keep me busy for years at my painting speed...)

Pretty much the only GW models i buy these days are bought as tournament entry fees. Our local has an entry requirement that you buy 25+ $ of wargaming related stuff, and lately it's been non-gw stuff like WM, non-gw scenery etc.

I grew up with GW, and have been a majot contributor to their cashflow for many years, but i'm getting a little wowed by the cost these days.

I was going to finish out my DE, but after mathing out the costs i'm not. I'll buy the odd new model.

My Daemons are staying static. I may even sell/trade them to further my DE.

I will buy the new rules/codexes for my armies, as i play local tournaments where these are going to be needed, but i'll not be starting any new armies, and will only be buying occasional models for the ones i do have form here in.

Frankly even if they dropped their prices from OMG to just OUCH! i'd probably still cut back to just the odd model these days.

I quit Warhammer fantasy last year as I felt the new edition and the pushing of large monsters was no longer an interest to me, the value of the game was lower with an increased cost in models, so I cut my loses and ran.

I still pick up very occasional bits of fantasy, but this is only for my Mordheim games which I still play with earnest, and will be expanded into more warbands over the next year.

With 40K, Myself and Aura have cancelled an idea to started two new armies based off the new 40K box. Both armies would have easily climbed into 4-5K range over he next year or so at the very least. Now nothing.

I'm not going to stop the game entirely, enjoy playing it too much, but I will limiting my spending on GW stuff, and the cash I had will go elsewhere in the long run.

On saying that I have ordered about £350-400 worth of stuff this week from wayland and other sources. Saving myself well over £100 when comparing to the new prices. It was all stuff I have been considering for a long time, so thought what the hell.

nkelsch wrote:This is a good point. maybe the question should be: "who was fine with the last price increase but is now quitting?"

However, that's not the question that was asked, was it?

Almost everyone in these multiple threads are the same voices who cried out last year and the year before and the threads are almost the exact same words with the same moral outrage.

And almost every year, GW's sales figures decrease, only just covered by the increase in prices and payments from tie-ins such as computer games. Surprisingly many people don't use the internet to voice what they do/do not, will/will not be buying and doing - the silent majority just... stop/reduce their buying and a smaller number of newer players steps into the game leaving gaps in the ranks.

Aye that is another point, I don't believe the 2/3 don't play, or the other stat they band around, 90% of their store sales are from new players. At best that was accurate for their Lotr players, but as far as I can remember even when it was at its height it didn't out sell the main two systems.

They might say it, they might think it, but I don't believe it for a second.

Oh its this thread again. Where everyone proclaims they are quitting just after they finish X Y Z.

nkelsch wrote:Almost everyone in these multiple threads are the same voices who cried out last year and the year before and the threads are almost the exact same words with the same moral outrage.

I can't answer to that. I wasn't on this board or in the hobby for the last round of price increases. In the original post, I stated that I could live with most of the minor increases that happened, but that I was taken aback by others, such as the land raider and storm raven. I also stated that it isn't the price increase alone that makes me feel frustrated with GW right now, but it is also the problems I have experienced with finecast figures. Fix finecast and then roll out a price increase.

I wonder how many people actually stopped buying last year. Certainly some must have. Beyond BL books and an ork bomma, I'm done with my GW spending this year. That means about $400 in new necron releases I was about to order. Picking up one bomma, instead of three, and buying paints from Vallejo in the near future. It also means not starting up a Chaos Marine army in the winter or spring.

SilverMK2 wrote:

nkelsch wrote:This is a good point. maybe the question should be: "who was fine with the last price increase but is now quitting?"

However, that's not the question that was asked, was it?

Almost everyone in these multiple threads are the same voices who cried out last year and the year before and the threads are almost the exact same words with the same moral outrage.

And almost every year, GW's sales figures decrease, only just covered by the increase in prices and payments from tie-ins such as computer games. Surprisingly many people don't use the internet to voice what they do/do not, will/will not be buying and doing - the silent majority just... stop/reduce their buying and a smaller number of newer players steps into the game leaving gaps in the ranks.

Agree with this comment. Myself? I have stated before that I vote with my wallet and still do. From +$300 per month back at 08 to $20 per month now at my local GW store and that might go down even further as I have not been at those shops much any more.

I've found an interesting group of people playing Warmachine and I've already started my Khador army. I'm going to give this a try and find out if I am going to like it or not. But I like the gaming group so far and that is a good start for the game.

I'll still do my modeling with GW products but only buying larger amounts of product at the LFGS, which bty are reducing their overhead of GW product by 20% because of the price increase. Perhaps I'll start selling some of my armies in piecemeal and keep the ones that have sentimental value to me.

I'll spend my money where I feel that I can have an enjoyable time with my hobby.

Same thing I have been spending on for a couple years now:

Privateer press and RPG's.

nkelsch wrote:
This is a good point. maybe the question should be: "who was fine with the last price increase but is now quitting?" the answer is probably no one. Almost everyone in these multiple threads are the same voices who cried out last year and the year before and the threads are almost the exact same words with the same moral outrage.

There are actually a fair number of people who are posting in this thread who registered on dakka after the last increase so your statement isn't completely true. Are there some old fogies like me? Sure. For me, last year was my final straw in terms of large purchases. I had a GK army pre-planned (including the bits I'd need to order from 3rd parties and an army list due to the leaked rules) that simply didn't materialize due to the switchover to finecast combined with the simultaneous price increase last year. I've traded for stuff since then but my actual purchases are down 80-90% roughly compared with what they would have been and have been historically when actively playing 40k. If a new tau codex came out, I could see myself buying a special character or unit in the next year (in addition to the codex) but not any more than that and definitely no new armies. At this point, the only palatable option left is to trade my large unpainted army for a smaller painted one as thats the only way I'll try out a completely new force. Most of the past year's hobby purchases as well as trades have been accomplished by me specifically shrinking my 40k collection to get other companies' products.

As for the on-topic question... I've got the new 2nd edition Descent on my to-buy list whenever it comes out. I'd like to also pick up some Barnaby transports for my southern Heavy Gear army. 5th edition D&D is a possibility depending on how the now ongoing playtesting turns out. Dust is looking better and better but after getting a first degree purchase burn from AT-43 (meaning buying but finding no other regular players), I'm a bit hesitant to jump into that pool. There was a cool looking WW1 flying battleships type game (not the steampunk victorian one but WW1) that was previewed last GenCon but has failed to materialize for some reason; if that shows up, I'd like to pick up a box of that or more depending on the mechanics. Those are the lines that are tops on my mind when I hit the FLGS.

What am I spending my future hobby budget on? The flip answer is 'E-bay'.

If there were another game out there, with a regimental focus (as opposed to skirmish) in a medieval/rennaisance era (as opposed to futuristic or steampunk) with a decent fan base (so I can find a game), then I'd be all over it. But WFB is all there is, at least in the STL area. Kings of War is a possibility, but the system seems kinda... anemic at this point. Perhaps in the future it will grow into its potential.

So I'm highly unlikely to ever stop playing WFB. I'm probably going to continue buying the rules, at least for the forseeable future. I am, however, at the point where I'm not going to be buying any more WFB miniatures - or more precisely, not buying GW minatures. Not when companies like Mantic are making perfectly acceptable proxies for a literal fraction of the cost.

Case in point: I have just finished assembling a big Mantic Dwarf army. 40 each Quarrelers, Longbeards, Rangers, Hammerers, and Ironbreakers. 50 Warriors, 20 Thunderers. 2 each Cannons and Organ Guns; two Grudge Mortars converted from cannon, and full crew including Engineers where applicable. 7 Characters - Shieldbearer Lord, Runelord and Anvil Guards, Runesmith, Combat Thane, BSB, and two Master Engineers - converted from line troops. I spent $240 dollars on three army boxes, plus tax.

Compare that the GW prices. 3 Battalion boxes will get you the Warriors, Rangers, Thunderers, and most of the Quarrelers along with 3 of the Cannons/Organ Guns for $300. It costs $181.50 for the GW Longbeards alone - and that much again for the Hammerers, and then again for the Ironbreakers. The remaining warmachines another $101. Add $118 for the characters (assuming you intend to make your own anvil like I am - change the runelord to the Anvil set and the character price jumps to $157). Grand total for the GW minis is over $1000.

And this is prices off the GW website as of today. After the prices go up, who knows how much higer it will be.

Why would ANYONE in their right mind buy GW, even at a 20% discount from an online distributor, when a discount of about 75% is available just by switching to another company's minis?

Probably Warhammer 40k, because I like the hobby. If its something you like, price is no object. As the pool players who go to the pool hall about how much money they will sink into a fancy stick...

I've mostly been buying 40k rpg books recently, though I just put in an order at my FLGS for 4 kroot hounds, 4 krootox and a kroot shapers.

I don't plan to cop out unless 6th is complete crap.

Still 40k, buying and painting one squad at a time to keep my new budget in order. I can't morally buy 3rd party sadly as I need to support the store I play at

I've already got enough to paint to be happy for a good long time and enough to convert for the same.

I suspect I'll just paint what I have and damn buying anything. Maybe a relevant codex when it comes out. But no longer through GW themselves.

Even WD is being scrapped after this month as a 'don't care' purchase.

And all that money instead will go toward my new computer. Anything I sell is going toward it too.

If anyone wants to buy something check the For Sale thread in the signature.

I really, really need to get a lot of funds saved up quick.

sigh.

I'm not sure who I am more enraged with right now, GW or people who flippantly says, its the same old crap blah blah blah ya'll are gonna keep buying the plastic crack...

I am in the army and was gone for about a year and missed the last price increase. when i started buying again it was a little shocking to the see the new prices, but it wasnt all that bad....

This time around my perceived value for price GW is asking is just too damn high. Add in the fact that I"ve had to deal with customer service on way too many FC models and bam its my personal perfect storm of Sh*t.

So will I be buying from GW in the future? Nope. I'll pick up a 6th ed rulebook on the ebay, The models I have now will have to do. If I have to revamp my armies after the new rules. will then I can sell them off for more money now.

wererat wrote:Still 40k, buying and painting one squad at a time to keep my new budget in order. I can't morally buy 3rd party sadly as I need to support the store I play at

Unless you play at a GW store, they should be happy to order 3rd party stuff for you. If they won't... their loss.

Well, tomorrow I'm picking up a CSM Rhino (before the price rise) and then I'll have everything I need for my army.

After that I'm laying low for a while till at least half of my stuff is painted. Then I'm going on to Warmachine & Hordes, since there's a pretty large WMH scene in my area.

I still have an apocalypse army to collect that I have no intention of stopping, but I was going to do a second 40k army... But perhaps the wiser call would be to start a warmahordes army for my second army.

Two weekends ago I got hold of a 3000+ point Eldar army. The best part was that the army was just given to me, so it now means that along with my tiny Tau and Ork forces the only army I don’t have is Dark Eldar.

As a result I don’t really need anything else. I want some o’thems big new Tyranid beasties, but the price increase has put them largely out of reach. Of course, looking over my hobby purchases this year so far, and we have a litany of things that aren’t GW:

High-Tech Miniatures
Table-Top Art
Soda-Pop Miniatures
McVey Miniatures
Heresy Miniatures
Fantasy Flight Games
Privateer Press

The only GW related purchases that I can remember this year and in recent memory was the one I did to get metal Legion of the Damned before GW ruined them in Finecost, and some FW models (Rapiers, Raven Guard kit).

So the answer is my budget will probably remain the same... but I won’t be spending it on GW. They’ve all but lost me as a customer (FW stuff is still great).

My budget will be about the same as before, but thanks to Dakka I have discovered a whole new world of alternative models like pig iron and Wargames factory so hello Death Korps army that I've always wanted for next to nothing! Whoo Hoo...
Ironically also, hello to another horde of infantry to paint again.... :(
What the constant price rises mean for me is forcing me away from the shops and more online which sucks for the local market, but what can you do really?

I'm more of a painter than a player. Thanks to Dakka I have found loads of companies producing models which are of equal, and in some cases better, quality to GW. That said, I will still be spending money on GW products as I enjoy playing the games. Not as much money as I might have but sufficient to be able to put an army on the table.

Due to the nature of my work, the time I get off changes from week to week meaning that if I want to play some games The local GW is really my only option.

I think this might be a problem limited just to England but, the only places available to play whenever you like are the local GWs. Most towns/cities do have games clubs but they are, in my experience, limited to just one or two nights a week.

Think I will buy 6th, new chaos codex and a 1,000pt chaos army and that will be it GW wise.

The rest of my money will be spent on Infinity (of course) and possibly depending price dropzone commander

I Still plan on buying more 40K product, just from my LGS where i get a 20-30% discount, All finecast I'll buy from GW as I need it, I probably wont get much other than a few bomma's until the new DA codex comes out, as well as picking up the new starter box for the rule book. I used to shop at GW all of the time, I have no problems with the price, despite being in Canada and having the price knocked up 20% from what it is in the states. My main issue is my local GW is just not that friendly of a place anymore. So i refuse to give them my business

My main priority is building up my Hordes and Infinity armies though, with a possible look into Dystopian Wars and Dust: Tactics.

So I've dropped around ~$300 this month on hobby stuff. I've picked up a new 35 point force for Warmachine, and a 2,500 point for for Dystopian Wars, and a rulebook. At full GW retail, I could have instead got a 40K rulebook and codex, and a 500 point army.

Since the last round of price rises I've picked up Malifaux, more Infinity, More PP, Mantics Dwarf Kings Hold and started work on proxies for Pulp City.

Barring hell freezing over (GW price drop) the only GW stuff I'll be buying are the BL novels, just not from GW themselves.

I'll be sticking with Games Workshop and Forge World. I'll keep spending the same amount, just buying fewer things, (pretty obvious since the price is going up but I'm spending the same amount). I Plan on doing a lot more modeling and casting in the future. Maybe divert some of my GW funds to material for casting...

More blu-stuff and green-stuff so I can sculpt my own models.

I just ordered the bulk of my Lizardman army before the hike...

I will need about $100 or so more and im done with GW until the Tau dex comes out and will need to re asses my units for that.

Im on to FoW and Infinity.

Wow a lot of people here mentioning about getting into Infinity. If you aren't aware of it already, the game now has its own section on Dakka so please come to http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/59.page and join in !

I'll continue to buy what I used to, just at a much, much reduced volume, as I have done for the past few years.

I've stopped buying 3 kits, to make one squad these days, i'm a convertaholic and love count as stuff. It looks like my kroot as dark eldar for 6th ed is not going to happen, luckily I've still got enough backlog on my squats, beastmarines and nurgle chaos to keep me occupied for the forseeable future.

Dropzone Commander

Personally I am getting weary of the 40k exclusivity now, and I want to expand into other areas. The price rise just gives me more justification to do so.

So my last GW purchase (excluding bitz and paint from 3rd party sellers) will probably be a mobs-worth of orks to complete my 1500pt list for a campaign in september, and rest will be focused on Dystopian Wars (If I can get opponents) and hopefully Bushido.

in no particular order

Infinity

Dropzone commader

Firestorm armada

I'll still play 40k, me and my friends are doing some trades ATM which should keep us going for a while. It's just i'm not going to buy 40k any more.

I can't reallty be mad at GW though, they were great, got me started on 40k/LOTR, introduced me to dakka and /tg/ and now their time has come, and I am leaving 40k for different systems and new universes.

I intend to spend my money on the same thing I've been spending it on since the last price increase. Warmachine.

FoW or Epic

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nkelsch wrote:GW products. I will be buying 3 Fightas, I will probably get at least one Stormtalon to loot for my orks and then when 6th edition drops, I will buy whatever bitz/models I need to convert to whatever new weapon options I don't already have.

Then I will go back to purchasing random FW or 3rd party models/bitz for whatever project I am working on at the time, until GW releases new Greenskin codex or models for me to buy.

I will not be buying any 3rd party parts which do not fit in with the scale and look of nelson-orks. This means yes to Pupperwars, Kromlech, Forgeworld, Maxmini and so on and not a dime to mantic ever.

I may be getting some PP to convert to 40k orks as I have seen some warjack limbs to ork cybork conversions which really work. I also like the Hordes models for the swamp creatures like gators and turtles which may end up as a bloodbowl team or just fun display models.

Oh, and if Bloodbowl shows up this year, I will be giving GW a fist full of money too.

So basically nothing will change because the price increase is not at all unreasonable or even a blip on my radar. 2/3rds of GW's customers never play the game and buy GW explicitly for the models because I like how they look so if they release a model I want, I buy it. I don't find GW's prices at all out of line with the other model companies I buy from. All the ones who make models which look good enough to be justified to be bought cost similar prices per model or per bit.

Wow! Talk about disposable income!

I'm a huge WW2/Russian history buff and have been contemplating Flames of War. However, 3 main things are turning me off:

-It's still fairly expensive, though getting 4 tanks for $70 is a bargain after buying 40k....
-Most of the mini's are metal, and metal is the thing nightmares are made of
-Many models, particularly infantry, are fairly bad looking (even on the displays on their website)

40k is still a viable hobby in any regard through third party sites and ebay.

I spend my hobby budget on anything other than GW products. Currently I like Freebooter's Fate, and my gaming group is into Heavy Gear Blitz!. I also love to buy Red Box Games products, and Quar by Zombiesmith is awesome.

I stopped buying from GW years ago though, and it has almost nothing to to with prices. The company is run by an irrational executive staff that neither appreciates its customers nor carefully husbands the goodwill of consumers. GW is a drag on the fantasy/sci-fi wargaming industry that prefers to prey on its enthusiastic supporters rather than create an engaging environment that fosters both individual creativity and product sales.

GW does not deserve my business, so I give it to companies that do.

Might have to give mantic's KIngs of War a fair chance... It couldnt possibly be worse than warhammer fantasy.

Battleworthy Arts wrote:Might have to give mantic's KIngs of War a fair chance... It couldnt possibly be worse than warhammer fantasy.

Its not

I'll continue to buy Forge World and GW models for my 40k collection. My next purchase will be the 6th Edition Rule Book. My next army will be Chaos Space Marines when the new codex comes out.

The 6th rulebook, and an Eldar kit here and there. I don't have a lot of money at any given time, and I am saving 100$ in birthday money to buy the 6th rulebook.


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Harriticus wrote:I'm a huge WW2/Russian history buff and have been contemplating Flames of War. However, 3 main things are turning me off:

-It's still fairly expensive, though getting 4 tanks for $70 is a bargain after buying 40k....
-Most of the mini's are metal, and metal is the thing nightmares are made of
-Many models, particularly infantry, are fairly bad looking (even on the displays on their website)

40k is still a viable hobby in any regard through third party sites and ebay.

You could try reenacting, if you like Red Army.

Think I already posted, but definitely got some Warmachine stuff, will still buy Fantasy and 40k (purchases depend on upcoming codexes, as I have all the 40k stuff I need/want at the moment) and zombie survival gear. Miami isn't THAT far away from NY, all things considered...

Ummm by my already estblished wishlist I've still got to spend about $1200 on Forgeworld Eldar stuff. However with the next year's release of Eldar being rumored I think I'm going to do all that analog. Buy, build-model-finish, buy next one. Assorted Necron and Dark Angel stuff more immediately.

Outside of GW I'll say Heroclix is definitely getting some money, DiabloIII, assorted small batch miniatures I find myself liking (AoW, Raging Heroes, SodaPop, CMON).

Im still going to give GW my money, I was thinking about getting back into playing 40k and a new edition seems like the ideal time.
I have also been saving up to add some new stuff to my collection if we get a new codex release as well !!

Harriticus wrote:I'm a huge WW2/Russian history buff and have been contemplating Flames of War. However, 3 main things are turning me off:

-It's still fairly expensive, though getting 4 tanks for $70 is a bargain after buying 40k....
-Most of the mini's are metal, and metal is the thing nightmares are made of
-Many models, particularly infantry, are fairly bad looking (even on the displays on their website)

40k is still a viable hobby in any regard through third party sites and ebay.

1. Plastic Soldier Company, Peter Pig, Game Models, Forged In Battles, etc., etc.
2. Plastic Soldier Company. Although I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that. Their models are usually fairly free of flash and mold lines, and it's not like you'll be doing much converting in a 15mm Historical game. Most of the vehicles are metal/resin hybrids.
3. 'Bad looking' may be just coming from a Heroic 28mm/32mm to 15mm. When it comes to infantry bases, it's the scene that the base is making that's important, not so much the miniatures themselves.

You can also look at Warlord Game's upcoming ruleset, Bolt Action, for 28mm games, or Battlegroup Kursk, which is 20mm and will be focusing on the Eastern Front when it first comes out. You can see an AAR down in the Other Historical Wargames subforum.

I wont be spending anymore on GW.
I'm done buying models for my Orks. I wont be buying any of the fliers.
This hobby will now be about painting up the last of my units, and playing.
Next, I may be picking up a PP summer sales army, or better yet, shifting my spending over to a new hobby.
GW got a full year and a half of my extra cash, and how they don't get anymore.

I might buy the odd model here and there or a vehicle kit if it looks interesting. Also paints. I'd like to complete my space marine army, mainly as a massive collection and I've kind of had a desire to own one of every model, including 'crappy' choices like whirlwinds etc.

Mostly into Infinity at the moment, and I don't see that slowing down.

Maybe a little more Malifaux. And then just oddball miniatures that strike my fancy.

I'll be spending my hobby dollars on Dust Warfare, Firestorm Armada, and Dark Age. Oh, and Zombie dice, which is a fantastic and fast dice game.

I might get the 40K 6th edition rulebook as I like to play Apocalypse and the occasional 40K game, but it's going to be a cold day in Hades before I sink any heavy hobby dollars into GW again.

@OP: Booze and women.

When the embargo began (We usually live in New Zealand). My brother, missus and I all jumped over to warmahordes and bought 3 armies. We Still have our 40k army but We haven't bought anything new since the embargo. We have put all our hobby money into expanding our warmahordes armies.We are really loving the game.

The only thing that will get me to spend money on 40k again is if they release a new SOB codex and PLASTIC troops. Even then I would never spend a dollar locally unless they did something about the price discrepancy,

Since all the other price hike threads seem to be locked I'll ask here.

Will the price for the paints increase?

I have tons of stuff on my back order, basically items I would love to have but didn't have use for.

Game wise Im set for warhammer with 16 armies, enough to last me for years.

So now I'll "collect" the stuff I like.

Reaper
Infinity
Dust Tactics

I would have gone with warmachine as there is FLGS that love to have me hop on board.
Unfortunately Im not touching any army related thingy unless I can use plastic cement.

More GW stuff.

Yeah, sure, it'll be painful. But I love the universe, and I like the game.