Cindy Piewhistle and Puggy Baconbreath - I'll let you figure out which is which...
Article confirms they'll be in Forge World resin.
Punga Miniatures offers some nice additional bb halfling characters.
Including a lady halfling with a pie.
If you don’t have access to a printer, there’s at least one etsy shop selling licensed prints for reasonable US prices. Especially when compared to FW.
Here’s an excellent action sculpt of a puggy halfling star player alternative. Really like how he’s ball carrying a sandwich as he’s charging down the pitch.
privateer4hire wrote: Here’s an excellent action sculpt of a puggy halfling star player alternative. Really like how he’s ball carrying a sandwich as he’s charging down the pitch.
My local group's sentiment seemed to be 'love the Puggy sculpt but what's the easiest way of removing the sandwich?' which was echoed when that STL inevitably was suggested. Personally I prefer the Forge World one anyway (obviously price tag isn't comparable) but I appreciate the nods to the older sculpts.
^Awesome! Love it. Cool way to keep in touch with family during some rare down time.
Can't quite make out the teams but could be Amazons vs Skaven?
Next time I see my mum I'm so going to show her this pic so she can see how other people around the world play the same game I do and in more unfortunate circumstances too.
Cindy Piewhistle and Puggy Baconbreath - I'll let you figure out which is which...
Article confirms they'll be in Forge World resin.
Besides Gryff & Varag that come in the 2nd Season box, are there any star players that aren't resin? At this point I'd just assume that any new star players are going to be resin.
Looking forward to whatever the next team is going to be though. I picked up a set of the made to order High Elves when they had them a couple of months ago, maybe they are next.
IIRC, after the Amazons made to order release, they were the next plastic team.
Cindy Piewhistle and Puggy Baconbreath - I'll let you figure out which is which...
Article confirms they'll be in Forge World resin.
Besides Gryff & Varag that come in the 2nd Season box, are there any star players that aren't resin? At this point I'd just assume that any new star players are going to be resin.
Looking forward to whatever the next team is going to be though. I picked up a set of the made to order High Elves when they had them a couple of months ago, maybe they are next.
IIRC, after the Amazons made to order release, they were the next plastic team.
Heard on Bonehead Podcast today that there is a rumor Vampires are getting new minis very soon.
Cindy Piewhistle and Puggy Baconbreath - I'll let you figure out which is which...
Article confirms they'll be in Forge World resin.
Besides Gryff & Varag that come in the 2nd Season box, are there any star players that aren't resin? At this point I'd just assume that any new star players are going to be resin.
If we don't confirm the material, we get a whole bunch of people asking what they're made of, so it saves time to state it
Cindy Piewhistle and Puggy Baconbreath - I'll let you figure out which is which...
Article confirms they'll be in Forge World resin.
Besides Gryff & Varag that come in the 2nd Season box, are there any star players that aren't resin? At this point I'd just assume that any new star players are going to be resin.
Looking forward to whatever the next team is going to be though. I picked up a set of the made to order High Elves when they had them a couple of months ago, maybe they are next.
IIRC, after the Amazons made to order release, they were the next plastic team.
Heard on Bonehead Podcast today that there is a rumor Vampires are getting new minis very soon.
There was a rumour engine that looked very much like the old Vampires, so them being next looks quite likely.
Cindy Piewhistle and Puggy Baconbreath - I'll let you figure out which is which...
Article confirms they'll be in Forge World resin.
Besides Gryff & Varag that come in the 2nd Season box, are there any star players that aren't resin? At this point I'd just assume that any new star players are going to be resin.
Looking forward to whatever the next team is going to be though. I picked up a set of the made to order High Elves when they had them a couple of months ago, maybe they are next.
IIRC, after the Amazons made to order release, they were the next plastic team.
Heard on Bonehead Podcast today that there is a rumor Vampires are getting new minis very soon.
There was a rumour engine that looked very much like the old Vampires, so them being next looks quite likely.
I really hope it is them, I would love an updated Vampire team to play.
I rather like that new Ripper Bolgrot sculpt. I think the glasses work just fine (and it fits very well with the theme of "clever troll" that Ripper sort of fell into).
As with all things Blood Bowl, there are some fantastic sculpts from 3rd parties available as well.
- Unrelated thought- when can we expect to see a new team?
odinsgrandson wrote: I rather like that new Ripper Bolgrot sculpt. I think the glasses work just fine (and it fits very well with the theme of "clever troll" that Ripper sort of fell into).
As with all things Blood Bowl, there are some fantastic sculpts from 3rd parties available as well.
It has been quite a long while...
- Unrelated thought- when can we expect to see a new team?
Vampires have been rumoured as the next team for so long that it's become a running gag on social media. Blood Bowl does certainly seem to be suffering from the Specialist Games team having a lot on its plate right now. I don't mind that they're catching up with the Star Player miniatures but it's been nearly 9 months since the last team release. Somehow doubt they'll manage to stick to the 'four teams a year' this time, though they may surprise us if there's another starter box with 2 new/updated teams.
From the teams of Legend, we're still waiting on Vampires, Chaos Dwarfs, High Elves and Khemri. GW will no doubt tinker with the rosters and add in some new positionals (which arguably wouldn't be the worst thing for Vampires in particular). Seemed to be some scuttlebutt a little while ago about the Kislev/Slann concept (i.e. the Leap meme team) getting added to the official rules in the form of Squig Riders but no idea if that has any substance.
We'll be lucky to get even one team in plastic this year at the current rate. I think they shifted most of the sculptors to the old world project and now they've got one person pumping out star players in resin.
Vampires definitely need some variety. At the moment they’re just Black Orcs without the charm. I’ve previously suggested a degenerated guy with wings like the Warhammer Underworlds band. Dunno if that would give him the equivalent of Very Long Legs or a Pogo Stick but it’d be something.
Mr_Rose wrote: Vampires definitely need some variety. At the moment they’re just Black Orcs without the charm. I’ve previously suggested a degenerated guy with wings like the Warhammer Underworlds band. Dunno if that would give him the equivalent of Very Long Legs or a Pogo Stick but it’d be something.
Vampires are definitely good candidates for another player type, even if it's just splitting the Vampires into different positions as they're currently rather one-dimensional. Maybe even add in a Varghulf or something. With team-specific traits being a thing now, I can also see Bloodlust making a comeback rather than the current iteration of that mechanic.
JimmyWolf87 wrote: Vampires have been rumoured as the next team for so long that it's become a running gag on social media. Blood Bowl does certainly seem to be suffering from the Specialist Games team having a lot on its plate right now. I don't mind that they're catching up with the Star Player miniatures but it's been nearly 9 months since the last team release. Somehow doubt they'll manage to stick to the 'four teams a year' this time, though they may surprise us if there's another starter box with 2 new/updated teams.
From the teams of Legend, we're still waiting on Vampires, Chaos Dwarfs, High Elves and Khemri. GW will no doubt tinker with the rosters and add in some new positionals (which arguably wouldn't be the worst thing for Vampires in particular). Seemed to be some scuttlebutt a little while ago about the Kislev/Slann concept (i.e. the Leap meme team) getting added to the official rules in the form of Squig Riders but no idea if that has any substance.
Vampires will never see the light of day.....I'll get my hat
Anyone else notice the new Blood Bowl FAQ Errata on 29th May?
Looks like chainsaws got nerfed.
Bombardier changes too.
Those poor goblins.
But double star players like Grak and Crumbleberry, Dribl and Drull, the Swift Twins etc now only count as one star player choice. However they still take up two spaces on the team roster.
So one hand taketh away while the other hand giveth something in return. Hmm. Think I need to reread this FAQ again and plan accordingly.
I would expect chainsaw be mistake. Would be weird to do turnover on succesfull use. Thaj's like turn over with succesfull catch. Feeis they meant 2nd instead of 4th.
zedmeister wrote: Anyone have any idea how many Star Players are left to sculpt for Blood Bowl?
This what I've found, is the most up to date list we have of star players. I however can't seem to find anything on that list unnacounted for. I will look again later.
I might be blind here, but today's preview article references Blood Bowl extras in the URL and the page title - but there's nothing for Blood Bowl there?
Dysartes wrote: I might be blind here, but today's preview article references Blood Bowl extras in the URL and the page title - but there's nothing for Blood Bowl there?
zedmeister wrote: So, basically, another week of 10th edition 40k releases and nothing else? Sweet, no need to open the wallet and a chance to reduce the pile of shame…
If you want to know what happened or what didn't, or if you like letting your mind run away with the possibilities of what the future has in store for Blood Bowl
Dysartes wrote: I might be blind here, but today's preview article references Blood Bowl extras in the URL and the page title - but there's nothing for Blood Bowl there?
Dysartes wrote: I might be blind here, but today's preview article references Blood Bowl extras in the URL and the page title - but there's nothing for Blood Bowl there?
Is it a lie though? This isn't something going up for pre-order next week. Social media staff usually don't know what's going on either. Like they confirmed Radukar was an Ogor in Cursed city, and he wasn't
Dysartes wrote: I might be blind here, but today's preview article references Blood Bowl extras in the URL and the page title - but there's nothing for Blood Bowl there?
Still...it would be nice to have another new team GW, what's going on there?
Apparently, for the last few months at least, they’ve been running the machines non-stop to make Leviathan boxes and everything else got the short end of the stick.
Really like the look of this. Been making a pitch for street bowl and this looks similar but it's official!
In the pic on the main WH page the illustration shows Skaven and Goblins in the same team colours as well. Hopefully maybe mixed teams or an Underworld repack will be available.
Wonder if this will be seven a side too. Probably should be if it's based off street bowl.
Excited but patiently waiting for new teams.
*Just realised the dug outs have 6 turns so yep should work like sevens.
Still...it would be nice to have another new team GW, what's going on there?
Apparently, for the last few months at least, they’ve been running the machines non-stop to make Leviathan boxes and everything else got the short end of the stick.
Wouldn't surprise me. Where did you get that rumour?
Still...it would be nice to have another new team GW, what's going on there?
Apparently, for the last few months at least, they’ve been running the machines non-stop to make Leviathan boxes and everything else got the short end of the stick.
Wouldn't surprise me. Where did you get that rumour?
All over the 40K thread here and a couple of other forums etc. combined with the state of things like the latest kill team box selling out in seconds and LGS getting small percentages of their requests fulfilled…
Dysartes wrote: I might be blind here, but today's preview article references Blood Bowl extras in the URL and the page title - but there's nothing for Blood Bowl there?
Is it a lie though? This isn't something going up for pre-order next week.
Fair point i guess.
The original article wording mentioned new rules and several new teams so I suspect it would have been the gutterball rules and a couple of teams (either new or mixed teams using existing rules) to go with them. Appears to have been premature though as should have had preview articles first.
lost_lilliputian wrote: Really like the look of this. Been making a pitch for street bowl and this looks similar but it's official!
In the pic on the main WH page the illustration shows Skaven and Goblins in the same team colours as well. Hopefully maybe mixed teams or an Underworld repack will be available.
Wonder if this will be seven a side too. Probably should be if it's based off street bowl.
Excited but patiently waiting for new teams.
*Just realised the dug outs have 6 turns so yep should work like sevens.
Could also use it for a super narrative Sports Movie Blood Bowl season or two. Potentially a pre-season way to generate new Star Players the League Teams can all bid for.
Looks pretty good. However these pre-preview things are frequently 4-6 months ahead of when you can actually order them I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't release until right before Christmas.
That *is* fast. I was expecting 3-4 months from the pre-preview until the preorder.
Anyway, I'm almost certainly going to get the Gutter Bowl set, but probably not the OWA and UD team boxes.
The video made it sound like the team cards were included in the team box set, but looking at the rest of the post, they are separate items, as usual.
For anyone interested I heard the pitch will be standard Blood Bowl size, 15 X 26 squares but not all squares will be playable. Some will be blocked out with drains/grates etc which will make the playable area smaller than a standard game.
Interesting to see if that's the case. With no refs, crowd involvement and secret weapons it looks like fun anyway
If it helps anyone the pricing for the upcoming Blood Bowl releases are US$: Gutter Bowl $60, Old World Alliance team $50, Underworld Denizens team $50, Card packs $33.50 ea.
^ No full pitch pic yet. Pitchure? Some people are still divided on the pitch size.
I wondered if the rules would be available separately but maybe not. Maybe the rules are only linked to this box because of the pitch.
Sure does sound like fun. Random chaotic fun.
Was hoping for more info on how the teams are built but at least we know it is seven a side. Was hoping for mixed teams beyond the Old World Alliance and Underworld Denizens. Anyway sounds interesting with the type of team members available, maybe variable skills involved when they mentioned both young and experienced players. Seems there's plenty of events and mishaps waiting.
Doesn't look at this point like there will be the local constabulary figures 'bobbies' but I'm sure some people will model them.
Now to decide on a speedy team or a bashy one I guess
I'll bet 500 teef that the rules are going to be 90% the same as Blood Bowl 7s, just with a wacky events table added in.
The only question in my mind is if they are going to print a multi-page booklet with all the rules, or just a one pager that says "See the BB7 rules in Death Zone."
Sections are unplayable (drains or market stalls) but players can get pushed into them.
There are barricades on the pitch too with chalk outlines.
The squares that take up drains and barricades on one side of the pitch are repeated in the same positions on the other pitch (market stall side).
Those are some nice looking pitches. I'm 99.44% sure I'm going to get this one.
Incoming wild speculation...
If you're playing on the street side, you use the Blood Bowl Sevens teams & rules. If you're playing on the "sewer-side" (/rimshot) you use the Dungeon Bowl (Sevens) teams and rules.
Looks like there is a 36 page booklet included in the GB box, so complete rules.
Now my only dilemma is that it won't be shipped until "after 8 July". I'm going to the Tacoma Open on 14 July so I don't know if I shouldn't just wait and buy one then.
Vs, them not having them there, and then being sold out on the website too.
Decisions, decisions...
Some minor rumors/news:
I recently talked to a person who at that time was working on the next two Spike! magazines.
Due to an NDA the person couldn't tell me any details.
When I asked the person if the next team was an old team, the person said yes.
However, the person wouldn't say whether or not the team after that would be an old team or a new team. So, I expect a new team.
According to the person, there were some logistic issues which caused a delay in the BB pipeline but next Spike! magazine should be released till September.
TLDR:
- at least two more Spike! magazines in the works
- next Spike! magazine is expected to hit in September (or maybe even August)
- next Spike! magazine to feature an old/legacy team
- the Spike! magazine after that might feature a new team (my guess)
Ohhhhhhhhhh boy. I am so excited for this, the new Star player seems like it is one of the regular 3 star player release schedule that comes with a new plastic kit.
Interesting! I heard a snippet that kind of lines up with that too, that a team of legend would be out before Halloween in October. With that star Ivan previewed wearing red and black, everyone thought the next team would be Vampires. Really people have been saying Vamps for a long time now.
Either way the news of two more Spike mags and possibly this year is good news for the game.
We all get bits of info from time to time from people who claim to know but I really do believe there will be another team this year.
Gutter Bowl was a bit out of the blue and that sold out I think. Blood Bowl fans are always ready for more lol.
lost_lilliputian wrote: Interesting! I heard a snippet that kind of lines up with that too, that a team of legend would be out before Halloween in October. With that star Ivan previewed wearing red and black, everyone thought the next team would be Vampires. Really people have been saying Vamps for a long time now.
Either way the news of two more Spike mags and possibly this year is good news for the game.
We all get bits of info from time to time from people who claim to know but I really do believe there will be another team this year.
Gutter Bowl was a bit out of the blue and that sold out I think. Blood Bowl fans are always ready for more lol.
They are going to need to get some more content out pretty quickly if they are planning on a 2023 Almanac for Blood Bowl.
And I know my small local group went wild for Gutter Bowl. It isn't mt favorite way to play, but we all bring our Sevens and Gutter Bowl pitches to game days now.
^I agree this year is looking really light for any almanac, if there is going to be one. Wonder if the last half or even quarter of the year will end with a bit of a flurry.
I like Gutter Bowl but it definitely takes the game in a different direction. Personally I prefer Sevens best for the Blood Bowl experience with shorter games. What's great though is we have a choice. Sounds like your local group are having fun either way, which is what Blood Bowl is all about!
^Thats a legitimate idea I heard before too. One theory was that next year would bring 3rd Season with 2 new teams. That they were saving new teams for 3rd Season.
Even if that's true they could still release a team of legend before.
I like the post by Seelenhaendler though about the Spike magazines being worked on and coming a little later this year.
It's fun speculating. Blood Bowl leaks don't happen as often as GW's other games.
When that Yhetee was seen 'in the wild' it was a big thing though as it meant a Norse team was coming too. I think at this stage the only official BB news is the Star Player Ivan coming and as he is in red and black it seems he will be coming with a new team too. Not all of the Sylvanian Spotlight Stars get to play on other teams as well.
At this point all I really want is for them to just pull the band-aid off and get the last Teams of Legend done. Really no excuse or reason for dawdling on them since 2016 when GW decided to finally care about Blood Bowl again.
As much as I like their new teams they have given us so far (Nobility, Black Orcs, Snots)... I would rather them just finish the Teams of Legend and make "Season Three" just a new rulebook that consolidates the FAQ and errata.
Season Three needs to make enough changes so that you can’t reasonably play just using the Second Season books. It’s important to force the players to worry that they will miss out on local gaming if they just stick with stuff they already own.
privateer4hire wrote: Season Three needs to make enough changes so that you can’t reasonably play just using the Second Season books. It’s important to force the players to worry that they will miss out on local gaming if they just stick with stuff they already own.
I just had a few beers with dinner, and am not great at holding my alcohol, so I will say I read this post two or three times before my brain registered the sarcasm.
Frankly it would be typically GW to event do a 3rd Season. Never before has one of their games LESS called for a new edition. The Living Rulebook was essentially a perfect game, and Second Season was an inoffensive way for GW to take back control while leaving a still functionally excellent game. I cannot fathom what they could do at this point with a new edition that wouldn't serve to make for a worse game.
Now I can't get it out of my head that a new edition of Blood Bowl will introduce social media mechanics for players.
Every player will have a "followers" rating on Squigger, the Warhammer equivalent of Twitter, which is a "Social Magic Platform", and the amount of follows/thralls/familiars/worshippers you have, the better your fan factor, but negative followers can cause all sorts of problems for players.
Dwarf teams won't use Squigger. They'll use InstaGrudge instead.
Automatically Appended Next Post: (I mean, not fun enough for the pain of yet another new, unnecessary edition, but fun enough to brew up some house rules for a league.)
H.B.M.C. wrote: Now I can't get it out of my head that a new edition of Blood Bowl will introduce social media mechanics for players.
Every player will have a "followers" rating on Squigger, the Warhammer equivalent of Twitter, which is a "Social Magic Platform", and the amount of follows/thralls/familiars/worshippers you have, the better your fan factor, but negative followers can cause all sorts of problems for players.
Dwarf teams won't use Squigger. They'll use InstaGrudge instead.
If you are not cautious with your utterings on that network, you might get visited by literal trolls, and let's just not get into what sort of storms the 'online' nurgle followers brew up. Also, Skaven teams get a considerable bonus for their marketing activities because 'they're kawaii, uWu' according to our special correspondent from Nippon and Cathay. Secretly, the whole thing is a ploy by Malal to rise back into power, as it is pretty much perfect to foster the constant infighting and strife that he prospers on
H.B.M.C. wrote: Now I can't get it out of my head that a new edition of Blood Bowl will introduce social media mechanics for players.
Every player will have a "followers" rating on Squigger, the Warhammer equivalent of Twitter, which is a "Social Magic Platform", and the amount of follows/thralls/familiars/worshippers you have, the better your fan factor, but negative followers can cause all sorts of problems for players.
Dwarf teams won't use Squigger. They'll use InstaGrudge instead.
You fool! What have you done? If they haven't already got a Season 3 planned, they will now
schoon wrote: That's a really nice mini. A whole team would be tempting...
A whole team of what? The Dark Elf team is already very corsair-themed. The only unique addition to Kiroth is the mask, which is basically what makes him a Star Player.
They look good, but i'm not too sure I like the high winged collars. It's kind of an exaggerated aesthetic, and they ditched the ribbed/weird chest armor from the old minis. The thrall holding the dangling bat kinda sells me on the team though.
Yeah, looks like blood lust is back for real - the article specifically calls that out. Wonder what the exact wording is though… I was never fond of random key players disappearing off the pitch for an entire Down.
I mean yeah it’s better than an injury but having it happen without any interaction from the other team feels bad.
Edit: also looks like one of the models has a wing mutation; wonder if that indicates a Trait or is purely aesthetic.
Not a massive fan of the frilly Interview with the Vampire style but I can cope with it. I'm just happy to finally have a new team and one of the actually interesting ones (yes I'm talking about you High Elves).
I guess it's a good thing nobody took my bet that we were getting High Elves next.
Looks nice, but I've never been a big fan of Vampires, so I will probably take a pass on this one. Looks like 6 different vampires, the one guy with his arm cocked back for a throw and other arm pointing is repeated twice for some reason. The way they're grouped makes me think 4 "blitzer" vamps and 2 "new positional" vamps and maybe 8 thralls?
Ignoring the double post anyway.
ETA: Hmm, the text says "Blitzers, Runners & Throwers" so maybe 2 of each? The double post guy and the one with the wing are the throwers probably.
SgtEeveell wrote: Looks like 6 different vampires, the one guy with his arm cocked back for a throw and other arm pointing is repeated twice for some reason.
Aren't all minis duplicated twice due to the fundamental law that all blood bowl must come on 2 identical sprues?
SgtEeveell wrote: Looks like 6 different vampires, the one guy with his arm cocked back for a throw and other arm pointing is repeated twice for some reason.
Aren't all minis duplicated twice due to the fundamental law that all blood bowl must come on 2 identical sprues?
Two identical sprues means one duplication, not two. *cough*pedant*cough*.
Newer kits have come with options to differentiate the players that have repeated poses, like different heads and arms. From what I remember, the first kit that really showed this off was the second undead team (necromantic horror?) which had some great head options (pumpkins!) as well as managing to pack 14 players into the box.
But its been pretty standard practice to stuff some extra heads onto the sprue for a couple of years now.
Pic was posted on FB, but when I clicked it, it came up as deleted.
So sadly I’m just going to have to “trust me, bro” on this one, and accept I’m going to look like a nutter and a liar if nobody else was able to grab a copy.
Pic was posted on FB, but when I clicked it, it came up as deleted.
So sadly I’m just going to have to “trust me, bro” on this one, and accept I’m going to look like a nutter and a liar if nobody else was able to grab a copy.
SgtEeveell wrote: Looks like 6 different vampires, the one guy with his arm cocked back for a throw and other arm pointing is repeated twice for some reason.
Aren't all minis duplicated twice due to the fundamental law that all blood bowl must come on 2 identical sprues?
I meant that the picture of the minis is duplicated on the website. The thrower guy with the poofy shirt and the arm/wing are the same body with different arms & heads.
I REALLY like the new Bloodlust, making it so you can bite a Thrall before the Movement 8 Vampire Runner takes off into the end zone is well thought out.
NH Gunsmith wrote: I REALLY like the new Bloodlust, making it so you can bite a Thrall before the Movement 8 Vampire Runner takes off into the end zone is well thought out.
I had to read the rule a few times, but I'm pretty sure you can only bite a thrall at the end of your action, not at the beginning of the action. So if you want to score, pass, or handoff with a vampire that fails its bloodlust test, you need to have a thrall adjacent to the vampire at the end of that vampire's action (ex. a thrall next to the end zone square that the vampire would score in).
NH Gunsmith wrote: I REALLY like the new Bloodlust, making it so you can bite a Thrall before the Movement 8 Vampire Runner takes off into the end zone is well thought out.
I had to read the rule a few times, but I'm pretty sure you can only bite a thrall at the end of your action, not at the beginning of the action. So if you want to score, pass, or handoff with a vampire that fails its bloodlust test, you need to have a thrall adjacent to the vampire at the end of that vampire's action (ex. a thrall next to the end zone square that the vampire would score in).
Are you sure? It says that if a player who fails their Bloodlust test is trying to do a Pass, Hand-off, or Score, they must bite a Thrall before they perform the action or score. That happens before the end of their activation, and happens immediately after the Bloodlust test, but before they perform the action.
NH Gunsmith wrote: I REALLY like the new Bloodlust, making it so you can bite a Thrall before the Movement 8 Vampire Runner takes off into the end zone is well thought out.
I had to read the rule a few times, but I'm pretty sure you can only bite a thrall at the end of your action, not at the beginning of the action. So if you want to score, pass, or handoff with a vampire that fails its bloodlust test, you need to have a thrall adjacent to the vampire at the end of that vampire's action (ex. a thrall next to the end zone square that the vampire would score in).
Are you sure? It says that if a player who fails their Bloodlust test is trying to do a Pass, Hand-off, or Score, they must bite a Thrall before they perform the action or score. That happens before the end of their activation, and happens immediately after the Bloodlust test, but before they perform the action.
I've reread it a few times and don't see how you can bite a thrall "before" your activation (i.e. before moving) under the wording of the rule. The last sentence with "before" in it only applies to passing, handoffs, and scoring actions, all of which normally end your activation when performed. But what if you have Running Pass skill which allows you to keep moving after a quick pass? Then I think you could quick pass and then move to bite a thrall.
Saying before your activation was a bit off on my part, mainly meant that it happens before the end of your activation due to that wording.
If you go to pass, you can move, bite, and make the pass/hand-off.
Since you HAVE to bite before you complete the pass action, it cannot be at the end of your activation.
Ben from the Bonehead Podcast is coming to the same conclusion on that since I just watched his review video to see if I was off on that.
edit. I do believe I was wrong on the bit about biting before you score though. Looks like you will still need somebody in biting range at the end of your activation to actually count it as a touchdown.
He's a coach, not a player.
Although many of the other "coaches" are also star players.
ETA, playing BB3 some and that guy is also available as a star player in-game. No telling when he'll show up on the TT though. Gobbler Grimlich did have rules for BB2016 so probably eventually.
They were event exclusive? I’m pretty sure I just ordered them online - I’ve not been to any events or WHW in years.
Anyway, good to see the cheerleaders back but aren’t we missing a set? The “good” elves had some too, I’m sure.
Edit: ALSO: the FAQ/Errata is out, linked from that article. Nothing too shocking as far as I can tell, except confirmation that Bloodlust is still a significant penalty.
Mr_Rose wrote: They were event exclusive? I’m pretty sure I just ordered them online - I’ve not been to any events or WHW in years.
Anyway, good to see the cheerleaders back but aren’t we missing a set? The “good” elves had some too, I’m sure.
Edit: ALSO: the FAQ/Errata is out, linked from that article. Nothing too shocking as far as I can tell, except confirmation that Bloodlust is still a significant penalty.
Vorian wrote:It's the bottom paragraph, under the Download button.
I see it now. For some reason I thought that was just going to say they were delayed in Australia or something.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mr_Rose wrote: They were event exclusive? I’m pretty sure I just ordered them online - I’ve not been to any events or WHW in years.
Anyway, good to see the cheerleaders back but aren’t we missing a set? The “good” elves had some too, I’m sure.
Edit: ALSO: the FAQ/Errata is out, linked from that article. Nothing too shocking as far as I can tell, except confirmation that Bloodlust is still a significant penalty.
Refs and Minotaur were exclusives
That’s who I meant; I have both sets and haven’t been near an event since Games Day stopped being called Games Day.
Mr_Rose wrote: They were event exclusive? I’m pretty sure I just ordered them online - I’ve not been to any events or WHW in years.
Anyway, good to see the cheerleaders back but aren’t we missing a set? The “good” elves had some too, I’m sure.
Edit: ALSO: the FAQ/Errata is out, linked from that article. Nothing too shocking as far as I can tell, except confirmation that Bloodlust is still a significant penalty.
Refs and Minotaur were exclusives
The Minotaur yes, the referees not (unless you meant exclusively online).
Edit: Um... maybe the Minotaur too was available in the shop for a short time...
I know I got my Refs from WHW. Maybe they were a splash release then WHW only.
Speaking of WHW, it’s been waaaay too long since I visited. Maybe next year for the Store Anniversary. Got a mate who’s never ever been, so will drag him along so I’ve someone to annoy on the drive up.
Sometimes they show those pre-previews waaaaaaay before the actual mini is released.
The article I linked above has a picture of the upcoming MTO for cheerleaders & refs that also shows some random mutated minotaur that I've never seen before.
What's up with this FAQ? Answering already answered questions, but in a different way.
Lasting Injury and min stat:
Old: Q: What happens if a player suffers a characteristic reduction as the result of an injury, but the characteristic that would be reduced is already at its minimum value? For example, a ST 1 player that suffers a Dislocated Shoulder (-1 ST). (p.61) A: If a player that suffers a characteristic reduction is already at their minimum value, it cannot be reduced further. Instead, roll again on the Lasting Injury table until a different result that can be applied is rolled. New: Q: If a player with a Passing Ability of 6+ suffers a Broken Arm and has their PA reduced by 1, what happens? (p.61) A: Characteristics can ever be reduced below the minimum value shown on page 28 of the Blood Bowl Rulebook, so nothing would happen.
Edit: Someone interpreted this to mean that PA specifically can't be reduced below 6+ (some players start with '-'). And for Jump/Leap/Pogo, the difference is about occupied vs unoccupied square. This is quite convoluted explaining in my opinion.
ETA: They mentioned the almanacs. Are they going to be brazen enough to release a 2023 almanac even though there was only ONE team released this year?
About the only other thing they could even throw in a new Almanac would be the tournament/matched play guidelines book hey had as direct only and in a limited run.
I was just looking at the 2022 Almanac, which has issues 14 & 15. Which sell for US$9.99 for the ebooks. And the flingin' flangin' Almanac costs 37.99.
Got to say I never expected this, out of all the teams that could have been, I wouldn't have put my money on a race that has barely been seen in WHFB for decades aside from in the 4e RPG.
My “knowledge” of Blood Bowl teams goes back to the old Star Player and Companion books. And I think this is the first time I’ve encountered a Gnome Team even being a thing!
Which is still very welcome. Whilst utterly clueless at the game, seeing an entirely new team in the dugout feels encouraging. Like GW are more committed to its future.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: My “knowledge” of Blood Bowl teams goes back to the old Star Player and Companion books. And I think this is the first time I’ve encountered a Gnome Team even being a thing!
90s Citadel Journal had the Forest Folk team in it, which included gnome players (and centaur players they could ride lol).
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: My “knowledge” of Blood Bowl teams goes back to the old Star Player and Companion books. And I think this is the first time I’ve encountered a Gnome Team even being a thing!
90s Citadel Journal had the Forest Folk team in it, which included gnome players (and centaur players they could ride lol).
Interesting. I too have never heard of a mention of gnomes in the Warhammer world but admittedly I've never been too deep in the lore. Were they an option ever in any edition of WFRP or WHFB? I want to like this but can't help but feel it would have been better served as an addition to the halfling team instead of taking some of the short-folk shine away from them.
Not that thrilled with this team. I would have rather had one of the missing teams. I'm surprised they aren't doing Tomb Kings next to tie in with The Old World.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: My “knowledge” of Blood Bowl teams goes back to the old Star Player and Companion books. And I think this is the first time I’ve encountered a Gnome Team even being a thing!
90s Citadel Journal had the Forest Folk team in it, which included gnome players (and centaur players they could ride lol).
Interesting. I too have never heard of a mention of gnomes in the Warhammer world but admittedly I've never been too deep in the lore. Were they an option ever in any edition of WFRP or WHFB? I want to like this but can't help but feel it would have been better served as an addition to the halfling team instead of taking some of the short-folk shine away from them.
I’ve a feeling they might’ve been at least mentioned in 3rd Ed WHFB? Been ages since I had those books, so I can’t say for sure.
you're right! how dare GW sully the serious tone of blood bowl. after all, we're here for normal american football being played normally. there's no room for animals or weird little people running around on the field! what are GW thinking?
Johanxp wrote: New team is disgusting. Has nothing to do with the tone of the game.
Disgusting? Not sure I agree with that.
Comedic relief Gnome and wild animals team... in a game that is a parody of sports, with more comic relief thrown in between the art and snippets of commentary from Jim and Bob? Hate to say it, this team fits in perfectly with the tone of the game.
Johanxp wrote: New team is disgusting. Has nothing to do with the tone of the game.
Agreed, if people want a more serious game there are games that operate as a proper sports team manager, instead of a game where your player can trip and die on a rock when they try to run a little extra, be murdered by the crowd, get into a fight with the refs, be hit by a chainsaw/grenade in a match, or be thrown like a spear into the end zone or into another player.
Blood Bowl isn't and has never been a serious game, a few minutes spent reading the core rulebook will tell you that.
I do like these models but after all this time waiting for Chorfs, i'm kinda just over it. They should have finished off peoples favorites before moving onto stuff like this.
zamerion wrote: I'm intrigued to see what starplayers they will have.
Morg, obviously, Deeproot also seems like a certainty but that would mean either giving them and Deeproot a new “league” or more likely putting them in the halfling thimble cup which means Akhorne, Barik, Cindy, Griff, Grim, Karla, Zug, Puggy, Rumbelow, and Grombrindal. Plus any Gnome star players they care to invent of course.
NH Gunsmith wrote: instead of a game where your player can trip and die on a rock when they try to run a little extra, be murdered by the crowd, get into a fight with the refs, be hit by a chainsaw/grenade in a match, or be thrown like a spear into the end zone or into another player.
I remember when David the Gnome was murdered with a chainsaw, the new team fits perfectly into Blood Bowl. No tonal difference whatsoever.
NH Gunsmith wrote: instead of a game where your player can trip and die on a rock when they try to run a little extra, be murdered by the crowd, get into a fight with the refs, be hit by a chainsaw/grenade in a match, or be thrown like a spear into the end zone or into another player.
I remember when David the Gnome was murdered with a chainsaw, the new team fits perfectly into Blood Bowl. No tonal difference whatsoever.
Yeah, I don't even know how one begins to say Gnomes don't fit into this game lol.
I play a team with beer keg carrying pigs, and a Yhetee... one of my other main teams sometimes accidentally eats one of their players or uses them as a projectile.
NH Gunsmith wrote: instead of a game where your player can trip and die on a rock when they try to run a little extra, be murdered by the crowd, get into a fight with the refs, be hit by a chainsaw/grenade in a match, or be thrown like a spear into the end zone or into another player.
I remember when David the Gnome was murdered with a chainsaw, the new team fits perfectly into Blood Bowl. No tonal difference whatsoever.
No. But I remember when literally billions of humans weren’t decapitated by Chainsaw, only for the team responsible to use the severed head to sneak a touchdown.
I think the old lore had Gnomes being secluded in/around that Albion island. They make more sense in that region but would feel off being around the empire and mainland old world.
Kinda wondering if that supposed star player is plastic and part of the kit, usually star players/resin minis are not included in the preview trailers.
Thargrim wrote: I think the old lore had Gnomes being secluded in/around that Albion island.
They did not. Albion was just a blank space on the map when gnomes existed in WFB.
They were just dwarfish 'cousins' who lived alongside them, and lived outside dwarf communities in even smaller numbers than dwarfs. The largest such community was 'Glimdwarrow' in the 'Mirrormoors' of the Empire. Mostly the lived in the Worlds Edge mountains.
You could take them as part of a Dwarf army in 3rd edition, if for some reason you wanted cheap (5 points instead of 10, before equipment) troops. And were willing to go from Toughness 4 to Toughness 2, and leadership 8. But they had movement 4 and initiative 3, so I guess that got something in return.
Gnomes definitely live in the Empire… somewhere. But I do recall now that the Albion Campaign did mention them as one of the many oddities that inhabit the islands. But only in passing.
Had to check my calendar to see if we weren't in April Fool's territory yet - a BB Gnome team has to be the biggest surprise GW has come up with since... I honestly don't know.
I can sympathize with those wishing the plastic sprue allocation to be used on more widely wished-for sets, but these gnomes are a rather fun bunch.
Thargrim wrote: I think the old lore had Gnomes being secluded in/around that Albion island.
They did not. Albion was just a blank space on the map when gnomes existed in WFB.
They were just dwarfish 'cousins' who lived alongside them, and lived outside dwarf communities in even smaller numbers than dwarfs. The largest such community was 'Glimdwarrow' in the 'Mirrormoors' of the Empire. Mostly the lived in the Worlds Edge mountains.
You could take them as part of a Dwarf army in 3rd edition, if for some reason you wanted cheap (5 points instead of 10, before equipment) troops. And were willing to go from Toughness 4 to Toughness 2, and leadership 8. But they had movement 4 and initiative 3, so I guess that got something in return.
Their most current lore - if you accept WHFRP 4e as canon - are that they live across the Empire but in small numbers. Glimdwarrow is still their largest community but is largely a shadow of itself after Grom the Paunch killed the majority of their population. The remaining 8 'clans' are all vigorously in opposition to each other as they all blame each other for Grom.
It's weird because after they re-appeared in 4e, one of the books for the Empire in Ruins series retconned a previously gnome character into a halfling and people thought that meant they'd been jettisoned again (http://lawhammer.blogspot.com/2021/08/wfrp-gnome-npc-with-graeme-davis.html). However this team would suggest that their revival continues.
To those who are saying gnomes don't belong in Blood Bowl, here's a direct quote from the Lore of Nuffle, featuring in the first edition rulebook then later requoted in the Blood Bowl video games, via commentators Jim and Bob:
"Did you know there was once a team of gnomes, the Shortstuff Scurriers, who first started playing in the Blood Bowl in 2479? The unfortunate team lost 34 games in a row - their first ever 34 games, in fact - and promptly disbanded and went home again, taking their ball with them...."
NAVARRO wrote: Bring an Unicorn team then please... That sums up why many may feel these Gnomes are going on a weird tangent.
But Unicorns don’t have hands? They’d be much better at football, having four legs to kick with.
A Unicorn-riding star player though? Sure, why not.
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Unicorns dont have hands but been part of blood bowl lore for aeons. Point being, peeps just have different preferences and thats all good. Some think Gnomes dont belong, others cant accept unicorns while others love it all.
The argument its on the lore so auto fits does not really work for everyone because we all like different things.
YOU of all people should know that Feegles are PICTSIES not Gnomes Although I will admit they do rather slot into this particular violent game a bit better than short aliens.
On the other hand, now you've got me thinking again...... "Nae King! Nae Quin!"
Hmmm....big ball of cheese as a Morg stand in??? ....grrrrr
I'm utterly baffled that, of all things, this argument is happening about the intentionally wacky and wonderful game of Blood Bowl.
I've seen Blood Bowl games you people wouldn't believe. Original Space Fleet cobra destroyers throwing passes to epic great gargants, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched Nagash tackle a 40k Zoat on the old styrofoam pitch, at the original Dalling Road Hammersmith store. All those hilarious moments are lost on unimaginative young-uns, like delicious salty tears in the rain. Time to play gnomes.
A head swap and it's not awful but it's, as is, it's kinda terrible. I can see what they were going with in terms of the ballet pose but it's hard to get past how crap that head is. Shame that it needed to be resin and resulted in cloth that thick.
Rules-wise, he's always been one of the best players in the game so nothing changed there beyond that special rule making him even more ridiculous. Very likely AV 8+ though so he's fairly fragile (provided you can actually knock him down).
Olthannon wrote: Love the pose and movement of the model, that all seems well thought out. The head is nightmarish, I don't know what went wrong there.
Maybe you could sculpt a paper bag out of greenstuff?
Automatically Appended Next Post: They seem oddly fun. Not hard to put down, but tricky to keep down.
The Illusionist might be particularly annoying, as you can be forced to follow up in a poor choice of direction, potentially leaving your defence open the Fox to run riot.
SgtEeveell wrote:I wonder if the new Treeman will be plastic or resin.
And if they are going to keep selling both. I like the new one better than the old one anyway.
Chopstick wrote:The new one doesn't have Akhorne the Squirrel though.
For the old one, it was also easy to remove/cover up/not glue on the Blood Bowl bits, making it more practical/flexible for other purposes. (From memory, I removed the branches with the sprite on and helmet hanging from it, simply didn't add the thorny face protector, and covered up some trophy hidden in the hollow trunk.) The new one would require some more sculpting work (none of the non-tree bits appear optional based on the sprues), although admittedly bark isn't the worst texture to roughly sculpt.
(New one is confirmed to be plastic by the way.)
And now that I'm finally allowed on the webstore, I notice the new one is also €34, versus €25 for the previous one. That's quite a difference for minis that are so similar that at first I wasn't even sure if it was an add-on sprue instead of a fully new sculpt, but then noticed that its pose was mirrored from the older sculpt.
Team box has 4 Blockers, 2 (new) Flamesmiths, 6 Hobgoblin Lineman, and 2 (new) Sneaky Stabbas.
Available separately, a 2-pack of Bull Centaurs in resin.
Plus the obligatory Spike! issue 18.
Very happy with this redux of Chaos Dwarves. The team as a whole looks great and cohesive. Like the additional new positions so that it's a bit different from previous and there's more choices involved.
Not too impressed with the bull centaurs being FW resin but I always wondered if that's how they would go with them. To include 2 in a plastic box might of been too much to hope for but they are fine looking.
Rules changes too with iron hard skin and losing tackle on the dwarves.
I still remember getting rofl stomped by my friends Chaos Dwarves Team back in the day so maybe this time around I might join them.
Really happy to see Chorfs back, especially with the Big Hats on the Blockers.
Not overly keen on the Flamesmith sculpts - or at least the images of them in the article - but I'm holding fire on final judgement until I see them in person.
No issues with the Bull Centaurs being resin for me - they're a Big Guy that, to date, have only been available for one team. The ones that have made it to plastic so far have been ones that can be used for multiple teams, which I suspect makes paying for a plastic mold more viable.
Mr_Rose wrote: Did anyone else pick up on the changes coming to iron hard skin? Because that’s going to change a lot of things…
Yes. It will change a number of players I think, especially if it's a flat rule across everything. Big guys with iron hard skin?
For me it's a slight problem lol I've had this custom theme team idea for some time but it includes a big guy with iron hard skin. Friends understand the theme but all said don't do it man that mutation is bad, it's a waste. Now I guess if I go ahead I'll be seen as some power gamer lol. At least people knew I had the idea for some time already I guess.
Will be interesting to see if any other rule changes are coming too.
this revealing was incredibly funny for me, getting to tell my chaos dwarf-loving girlfriend at work that, hey, they finally made a chaos dwarf plastic kit! in blood bowl
That new reveal makes me very happy! ^_^ No surprises what their collegiate alliance will be in Dungeon Bowl (not that there ever was) - I hope their pitch is cool.
Clockpunk wrote: That new reveal makes me very happy! ^_^ No surprises what their collegiate alliance will be in Dungeon Bowl (not that there ever was) - I hope their pitch is cool.
Pitch looks hot, it can be partially seen in the reveal video.
Mr_Rose wrote: Did anyone else pick up on the changes coming to iron hard skin? Because that’s going to change a lot of things…
Yes. It will change a number of players I think, especially if it's a flat rule across everything. Big guys with iron hard skin?
For me it's a slight problem lol I've had this custom theme team idea for some time but it includes a big guy with iron hard skin. Friends understand the theme but all said don't do it man that mutation is bad, it's a waste. Now I guess if I go ahead I'll be seen as some power gamer lol. At least people knew I had the idea for some time already I guess.
Will be interesting to see if any other rule changes are coming too.
Do it now before the official rule changes and claim you never heard any such rumours.
Aspiring Champion wrote: I don't really follow GW's release schedules. Now that chorfs have been revealed, is there an estimate on when we might see pre-orders go up?
Within the next three months. Saying that though, they were the first things on the stream, all of the other systems previewed got roadmaps stretching into next year, and three months from now is the Christmas hiatus so I would probably expect sooner than later.
Within the next three months. Saying that though, they were the first things on the stream, all of the other systems previewed got roadmaps stretching into next year, and three months from now is the Christmas hiatus so I would probably expect sooner than later.
That should give me just enough time to finish painting my Norse team.
Mr_Rose wrote: Did anyone else pick up on the changes coming to iron hard skin? Because that’s going to change a lot of things…
Yes. It will change a number of players I think, especially if it's a flat rule across everything. Big guys with iron hard skin?
For me it's a slight problem lol I've had this custom theme team idea for some time but it includes a big guy with iron hard skin. Friends understand the theme but all said don't do it man that mutation is bad, it's a waste. Now I guess if I go ahead I'll be seen as some power gamer lol. At least people knew I had the idea for some time already I guess.
Will be interesting to see if any other rule changes are coming too.
What rule change to Iron hard skin? Last year's FAQ?
Mr_Rose wrote: Did anyone else pick up on the changes coming to iron hard skin? Because that’s going to change a lot of things…
Yes. It will change a number of players I think, especially if it's a flat rule across everything. Big guys with iron hard skin?
For me it's a slight problem lol I've had this custom theme team idea for some time but it includes a big guy with iron hard skin. Friends understand the theme but all said don't do it man that mutation is bad, it's a waste. Now I guess if I go ahead I'll be seen as some power gamer lol. At least people knew I had the idea for some time already I guess.
Will be interesting to see if any other rule changes are coming too.
What rule change to Iron hard skin? Last year's FAQ?
In the interview they said that when the Chorf team is released there will be an update to IHS that makes it prevent all armour modifications, not just Claws.
