Hobowan wrote:
All you need is a few orkses to be infected...maybe a sniper firing tranq darts here and there designed to penetrate rhinoceros hide as a vector...
once that ork bites another ork, it would be the start of a huge mass brawl in which countless other orks would get bitten - the results are exponential from there thered be no time for them to react quickly enough to be disciplined and identify and quarantine infected orks

The orks love of fighting eachother all but guarantees a spread and if it takes off, it would keep them pinned to that one continent as theyd lose the intelligence to loot technology and whatnot, and would become a meandering mass of the orky dead

of course theres one thing that would ruin it all for us - our own damned curiosity.

Guaranteed that us humans would make some "secure" facility in the middle of london or new york or somewhere equally ridiculous to study the orks and zombie orks, and at that point its game over as a breakout is inevitable and thus wed not only have a normal zombie outbreak to deal with but also a zombie ork apocolypse!

you realize orks kill other orks right? a zombie ork is less a threat he doesn't use his choppa or sluggah or even act very orky and would be even slower than a standard boy. Not to mention zombies are nothing new to orks... they deal with it when chaos comes knocking it's old hat for them. a zombie plague has yet to wipe out orks and something stupid like humanity being able to engineer that would be stupid beyond reason, though given it's about as stupid as nuking antarica until it's a glowing mass of melted ice which floods the world

Key note of warfare, humanity has not and will not use a weapon which is more viable against themselves than the enemy is suicide. Humanity would sooner bend a knee to the Orks than unleash a Zombie plague... history proves this.

We could try to get them addicted to tabletop gaming though.

 Jidmah wrote:
We could try to get them addicted to tabletop gaming though.

Best bet for survival Unlimited battles! ... they might go "A Beautiful Mind" though.... oh god what if they learn propah strategy!?

Thats assuming all this nuking and ork carnage does not wake up Great Cthulhu and friends

Orks + modern day earth = A much greener Earth

Our soldiers are professionnal, but they are only one in what.... 10.000 people ?

Every single Ork is a big threat for non fighting humans. Sure we have tanks and planes big ships. But their medics have rotating saws attached to the arm, their gretchins fly planes and every one of them has the ferocity of 20 professional human soldiers.

After the first encounter, they would bastardize our technology, and we would see custom orkish navy ships, M1 Abrahams and of course pimped up limos.

And I, for one, would fear a warboss in a pimped up orkish limo.

I would say that nothing would happen without another UN Security Council vote.

Meaning that any of the 5 permanent members would be able to veto any decision while trying to steal technology / negociate with the warboss / backstab the first attacked country / duplicate weirdboyz / whatever...

We'd be fethed.

Pretty sure one Warboss + warband could take out most of earth in about 6 months and that would be factoring in how lazy him and his boyz would be from such lax fighting. Earth is not a hostile enough planet for it's weather to even really slow down orks and cause them to die of thirst or anything of the sort. I feel we would try our damnest to scientifically understand them after the first contact in desperate hopes to kill them more effectively, who knows maybe we'd learn a few things but I think by the time anything more prudent than "shoot them in the brain ... alot" we'd of lost a large portion of our population infact only through the use of Auspex or equivalent would we even learn how they reproduce so odds are we would make mistakes when we started biopsies or assume they are dead when they suddenly wake up and kill a doctor all horror movie style.

Earth would be dead in so many ways and i shudder to think but it stands to chance with how advanced 40k is a Big mek would consider all our toys and tech child'splay to tap into. *shudder* i don't even want to think would happen if Orks found 4chan.

Hail our new overlord.

If we are too weedy they won't bother to kill us. Will just be slaves.

Hell one ork is a villian sufficient of warranting a made for TV syfy channel movie. A Waaagh! worth would deplete our planet of all things shinny and dakka within mere days.

No big deal as we already have them here. They are called Soccer Fans!

 Marcch wrote:
No big deal as we already have them here. They are called Soccer Fans!

We'd have to hope nascar and rugby would be enough to appease our new green masters.

orks would krump, heck, if any 40k army landed on the planet they would win. We don't have enough technology/man power to stop anything in that scale.

I wonder if I can buy my way off planet with human teeth...

 sir william the bold wrote:
orks would krump, heck, if any 40k army landed on the planet they would win. We don't have enough technology/man power to stop anything in that scale.

Hmm what about kroot? what are their numbers like?

 Seb wrote:
Our soldiers are professionnal, but they are only one in what.... 10.000 people ?

Every single Ork is a big threat for non fighting humans. Sure we have tanks and planes big ships. But their medics have rotating saws attached to the arm, their gretchins fly planes and every one of them has the ferocity of 20 professional human soldiers.

After the first encounter, they would bastardize our technology, and we would see custom orkish navy ships, M1 Abrahams and of course pimped up limos.

And I, for one, would fear a warboss in a pimped up orkish limo.

Our soldiers arnt even up to the quality of Cadian soldiers.

The most elite soldiers on the planet, (pretty much all of NATO's infantry, Russia, maybe China) would have the same stats in every way as Imperial Guardsmen (Flak Armor, Lasguns)


The combined might of every single nation on earth in an organized fashion might be able to beat an AVERAGE size Waaagh but the cost would be crazy high and thats assuming all the nations are actually able to combine their might properly.

As pointed out before, an average sized Waagh! would probably outnumber humanity. And they are all soldiers, we are not.

 Riddick40k wrote:
I wonder if I can buy my way off planet with human teeth...

Human teef are puny and break easy thus the orks consider them worthless, a shark on the other hand!

Ultimately an "average" size orkish waaaagh would be completely unchecked by anything we have seen in modern wars short of WMD's Should the planet become that desperate it is probably already too late and as i said, it only compounds the issue. It's a basic fact of life even in 40k once orks land that planet will never know a time without war again.

 Harriticus wrote:
It all depends on the Waaagh! size. I think we could actually beat back all but the really big ones, though it'd devastate the planet.

Aren't all Waaagh!s "really big ones"? if they're weren't several million Orks, it wouldn't be a Waaagh!, it's be more like a "Weeeeee"

A fight between modern day Earth and an Waaagh would end with the Warboss getting sniped in the head and the warband collapsing on itself, while we vacate the area around where the Waagh is situated, and nuke it.

Considering that Thrakka's skin can't be penetrated by bolter rounds, I doubt that one of our bullets would do much more than draw blood on a warboss. Taking a bullet to the head is pretty much a nobz' rite of passage.

That is what XM-109 are for.

And IIRC you can get rid of Orks, its just a pain to do.

 Jidmah wrote:
Considering that Thrakka's skin can't be penetrated by bolter rounds, I doubt that one of our bullets would do much more than draw blood on a warboss. Taking a bullet to the head is pretty much a nobz' rite of passage.

I can see this posted on a tree: "Hey, yous gits...we haves dis ancient weapon called a 50 BMG...none o yous gits are ork enuff to stand ere and let a puny humie shoot yous in da noggin wiff it. Stan next to da burn pit so we humies dont have to drag yous too far".

 Galdos wrote:

 Seb wrote:
Our soldiers are professionnal, but they are only one in what.... 10.000 people ?

Every single Ork is a big threat for non fighting humans. Sure we have tanks and planes big ships. But their medics have rotating saws attached to the arm, their gretchins fly planes and every one of them has the ferocity of 20 professional human soldiers.

After the first encounter, they would bastardize our technology, and we would see custom orkish navy ships, M1 Abrahams and of course pimped up limos.

And I, for one, would fear a warboss in a pimped up orkish limo.

Our soldiers arnt even up to the quality of Cadian soldiers.

The most elite soldiers on the planet, (pretty much all of NATO's infantry, Russia, maybe China) would have the same stats in every way as Imperial Guardsmen (Flak Armor, Lasguns)


The combined might of every single nation on earth in an organized fashion might be able to beat an AVERAGE size Waaagh but the cost would be crazy high and thats assuming all the nations are actually able to combine their might properly.

Most elite soldiers on earth are Australian SAS! Not even being sarcastic.

 Zande4 wrote:

 Galdos wrote:

 Seb wrote:
Our soldiers are professionnal, but they are only one in what.... 10.000 people ?

Every single Ork is a big threat for non fighting humans. Sure we have tanks and planes big ships. But their medics have rotating saws attached to the arm, their gretchins fly planes and every one of them has the ferocity of 20 professional human soldiers.

After the first encounter, they would bastardize our technology, and we would see custom orkish navy ships, M1 Abrahams and of course pimped up limos.

And I, for one, would fear a warboss in a pimped up orkish limo.

Our soldiers arnt even up to the quality of Cadian soldiers.

The most elite soldiers on the planet, (pretty much all of NATO's infantry, Russia, maybe China) would have the same stats in every way as Imperial Guardsmen (Flak Armor, Lasguns)


The combined might of every single nation on earth in an organized fashion might be able to beat an AVERAGE size Waaagh but the cost would be crazy high and thats assuming all the nations are actually able to combine their might properly.

Most elite soldiers on earth are Australian SAS! Not even being sarcastic.

Besides the fact I disagree with you and I would have said British SAS I see I miss typed.

By the most elite I meant of the basic infantry, not our special forces. My bad. Im not even distinguishing between Marines and Army, I just meant the grunts of nations

 Galdos wrote:

 Zande4 wrote:

 Galdos wrote:

 Seb wrote:
Our soldiers are professionnal, but they are only one in what.... 10.000 people ?

Every single Ork is a big threat for non fighting humans. Sure we have tanks and planes big ships. But their medics have rotating saws attached to the arm, their gretchins fly planes and every one of them has the ferocity of 20 professional human soldiers.

After the first encounter, they would bastardize our technology, and we would see custom orkish navy ships, M1 Abrahams and of course pimped up limos.

And I, for one, would fear a warboss in a pimped up orkish limo.

Our soldiers arnt even up to the quality of Cadian soldiers.

The most elite soldiers on the planet, (pretty much all of NATO's infantry, Russia, maybe China) would have the same stats in every way as Imperial Guardsmen (Flak Armor, Lasguns)


The combined might of every single nation on earth in an organized fashion might be able to beat an AVERAGE size Waaagh but the cost would be crazy high and thats assuming all the nations are actually able to combine their might properly.

Most elite soldiers on earth are Australian SAS! Not even being sarcastic.

Besides the fact I disagree with you and I would have said British SAS I see I miss typed.

By the most elite I meant of the basic infantry, not our special forces. My bad. Im not even distinguishing between Marines and Army, I just meant the grunts of nations

Ah the basic grunts hmm then pretty much who ever is the best equipped with the most numbers I guess, so you're right with that it would be china, USA, etc. however as the australian SAS train the British SAS I don't think they could be better or they would train us!

BlaxicanX wrote:
A fight between modern day Earth and an Waaagh would end with the Warboss getting sniped in the head and the warband collapsing on itself, while we vacate the area around where the Waagh is situated, and nuke it.

Because we'd figure out a warboss = victory over the orks, a feral alien race. Ontop of that i am damn sure wherever the warboss goes pure war follows him. if you are going to say our modern day snipers come even close to 40k asassins Imma smack you upside yo head son. That gun Might... MIGHT be strength 5, eavy armor should provide pretty damn good protection against it not to mention i highly doubt sniping a boss in the head would to much more than piss him off Royally.

and considering how morally supporting earth is to orkish ego boosts, i would doubt any defeat would demoralize them long at all so much easy pickings

If we can a sniper close enough to spot the warboss, it means we can easily send a very accurate ICBM on said boss, should the sniping fails, plan B.

I for one would welcome our dark and terrible lords of chaos, they will deliver us from the ork infestation!

Nuke antartica. There's a smart idea. Melting the polar ice caps manually.

Meh, that or the Orks, we're fethed, might as well take the feth-heads with us, eh?

 Bobthehero wrote:
Meh, that or the Orks, we're fethed, might as well take the feth-heads with us, eh?

you sound like someone who doesn't pass background tests for firearms

 Jidmah wrote:
As pointed out before, an average sized Waagh! would probably outnumber humanity. And they are all soldiers, we are not.

I heard that Thrakas WARGHH on Armageddon was probably one of the largest Imperium has faced since it's foundation and as I understood it the Orks numbered from 2.5 to 3.5 million Ork boyz. That is not over 7 billion Humans Earth is having today.

CORRECTION: Maximum number of Orks during Armageddon engagement was 3.798.000 ( and that is if e count max number for every Ork in exactly 1266 warbands that were on Armageddon during 3'rd war ). And that is still not close enough our numbers today.

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Meh, that or the Orks, we're fethed, might as well take the feth-heads with us, eh?

you sound like someone who doesn't pass background tests for firearms

Well, apparently, my background was good enough to get me in the army, so, yeah, hush.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
Meh, that or the Orks, we're fethed, might as well take the feth-heads with us, eh?

you sound like someone who doesn't pass background tests for firearms

Well, apparently, my background was good enough to get me in the army, so, yeah, hush.

This is OT, but in Canada do you get asked in the psych eval at the start 'when you find yourself at the edge of a building or another large drop, do you feel the urge to jump?'

But on topic, we'd be rooted. Most of the ways to deal with them involve us destroying chunks of our own world. We would be doomed.

however as the australian SAS train the British SAS I don't think they could be better or they would train us!

Ha, I never heard that before. thats awsome

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
As pointed out before, an average sized Waagh! would probably outnumber humanity. And they are all soldiers, we are not.

I heard that Thrakas WARGHH on Armageddon was probably one of the largest Imperium has faced since it's foundation and as I understood it the Orks numbered from 2.5 to 3.5 million Ork boyz. That is not over 7 billion Humans Earth is having today.

CORRECTION: Maximum number of Orks during Armageddon engagement was 3.798.000 ( and that is if e count max number for every Ork in exactly 1266 warbands that were on Armageddon during 3'rd war ). And that is still not close enough our numbers today.

Sorry man gonna need a source, cause i would beleive that in a singluar battle but never a war that large scale that it required so many marine chapters, battleships, regiments of the imperium and PDF just to try and keep them back.

Armageddon Prime

Forces of the Great Despot of Dregruk[1b]
Despot Gazgrim's War Horde - Estimated 200 warbands, 18 Gargants
Warlord Thogfang's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 3 warbands, 7 Gargants
Warlord Rukgor's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 5 warbands, 6 Gargants
Warlord Badfang's Battle Forts - Estimated 3 warbands, 16 Battle Fortresses
Black Slayers Tribe - Estimated 30 warbands, 4 Gargants
Firebellies Tribe - Estimated 18 warbands, 3 Gargants
Varga's Drop Legion - Estimated 24 warbands
Razor Speed Freeks - Estimated 21 'Speed Kult' warbands
Warlord Gorshag's Big Gunz - Estimated 7 'artillery' warbands

Armageddon Secundus

Forces of the Ork Warlord Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka[1b]
Great Overlord Ghazghkull's War Horde - Estimated 400 warbands, 18 Gargants
Warlord Morfang's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 6 warbands, 7 Gargants
Warlord Skarfang's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 3 warbands, 6 Gargants
Warlord Burzuruk's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 4 warbands, 9 Gargants
Warlord Kroksnik's Deth Traks - Estimated 4 warbands, 32 Battle Fortresses
Blackskull Tribe - Estimated 30 warbands, 3 Gargants
Crooked Moon Tribe - Estimated 21 warbands, 5 Gargants
Red Fin Tribe - Estimated 30 warbands, 4 Gargants
Red Wheelz Speed Freeks - Estimated 18 'Speed Kult' warbands
Burning Death Speed Freeks - Estimated 25 'Speed Kult' warbands
Warlord Thugsnik's Big Gunz - Estimated 6 'artillery' warbands
Warlord Morbad's Big Gunz - Estimated 12 'artillery' warbands

The Fire Wastes

Forces of Urgok the Unstoppable[1b]
Great Slayer Grimskul's War Horde - Estimated 60 warbands, 8 Gargants
Warlord Blagrot's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 4 warbands, 3 Gargants
Warlord Skrag's Gargant Big Mob - Estimated 2 warbands, 3 Gargants
Vultures Tribe - Estimated 16 warbands 3 Gargants
Stompers Tribe - Estimated 11 warbands, 1 Gargant?
Slasherz Speed Freeks - Estimated 12 'Speed Kult' warbands
Warlord Rukglum's Big Gunz - Estimated 11 'artillery' warbands

The Dead Lands

Forces of the Over-Fiend of Octarius[1b]
Great Fiend Gorsnik Magash's War Horde - Estimated 250 warbands, 160 Battle Fortresses
Warlord Bogsnik's Blitz Brigade - Estimated 8 warbands, 26 Battle Fortresses
Warlord Skabsnik's Blitz Brigade - Estimated 12 warbands, 41 Battle Fortresses
Black Cloud Speed Freeks - Estimated 20 'Speed Kult' warbands
White Lightning Speed Freeks - Estimated 31 'Speed Kult' warbands

Orbital support

12-16 Space hulks[1b]
2-3,500 Fighta-Bommer squadrons[1b]
2,100+ Attack Craft[1b]
80-100 Roks[1b]
250-400 Kroozers[1b]

That was our battle #s

Space Marine Chapters

Angels of Fire: 7 Companies[1b]
Angels of Redemption: 4 Companies[1b]
Angels of Vigilance: 6 Companies[1b]
Angels Porphyr: 8 Companies[1b]
Black Dragons: 9 Companies[1b]
Black Templars: 3 Crusades[1b]
Blood Angels: 1 Company[1b]
Celebrants: 10 Companies[1b]
Celestial Lions: 10 Companies[1b]
Exorcists: 12 Companies[1b]
Flesh Tearers: 5 Companies[1b]
Iron Champions: 7 Companies[1b]
Marines Malevolent: 2 Companies[1b]
Mortifactors: 10 Companies[1b]
Omega Marines: 9 Companies[1b]
Raptors: 5 Companies[1b]
Relictors: 10 Companies[1b]
Salamanders: 6 Companies[1b]
Silver Skulls: 7 Companies[1b]
Sons of Guilliman: 6 Companies[1b]
Space Wolves: 3 Great Companies[1b]
Storm Giants: 5 Companies[1b]
Storm Lords: 2 Brotherhoods[1b]
White Scars: 3 Brotherhoods[1b]

Imperial Guard and PDF

Armageddon IG and PDF
Armageddon Ash Wash militia: 5 Regiments[1b]
Armageddon Command Guard: 5 Companies[1b]
Armageddon Hive Militia: 120 Regiments[1b]
Armageddon Ork Hunters: 5 Regiments[1b]
Armageddon Steel Legion: 25 Regiments[1b]
Arphista Penal Legion: 11 Legions[1b]
Asgardian Rangers: 2 Regiments[1b]
Cadian Shock Troops: 15 Regiments[1b]
Catachan Jungle Fighters: 3 Regiments[1b]
Death Korps of Krieg: 5 Regiments[1b]
Elysian Drop Troops: 14 Squadrons[1b]
Jopall Indentured Squadrons: 17 Battalions[1b]
Krourk Ogryn Auxilis: 2 Regiments[1b]
Minervan Tank Legions: 3 Legions[1b]
Monglor Ogryn Auxilia: 1 Regiment[1b]
Mordian Iron Guard: 6 Regiments[1b]
Noctan Strike Forces:6 Regiments[1b]
Ocanon Phalanax Troops: 11 Regiments[1b]
Pyran Dragoons: 10 Regiments[1b]
Savlar Imperial Guard
Savlar Chem-Dogs: 6 Regiments[1b]
Savlar Chem-Riders: 2 Regiments[1b]
Semtexian Bombadiers: 9 Batteries[1b]
Storm Troopers: 18 Companies[1b]
Zouvan Skirmishers: 4 Brigades[1b]
13th Penal Legion[3]

Adepta Sororitas

Order of Our Martyred Lady: Equivalent 3 Companies[1b]
Order of the Argent Shroud: Equivalent 7 Companies[1b]
Adeptus Mechanicus
Centurio Ordinatus: 4 Ordinatus[1b]
Legio Crucius: Demi-Legio[1b]
Legio Ignatum: Legio[1b]
Legio Invigilata: Legio[1b]
Legio Magma: Quatro-Legio[1b]
Legio Metalica: Demi-Legio[1b]
Legio Tempestor: Legio[1b]
Legio Victorum: Legio[1b]
Skitarii: 14 Regiments[1b]
Departmento Munitorum
Engineer Corps: 2[1b]
Pioneer Corps: 1[1b]
Adeptus Arbites
Precincts: 20[1b]
Punitive Battalions: 12[1b]
Officio Assassinorum
Agents: CLASSIFIED[1b]
Officio Sabatorum
Agents: 34[1b]
Ordo Xenos
Kill-Teams: 2[1b]
Templars Psykologis
Disruption Squads: 15[1b]

Imperial Navy

Imperial Deep Space Support
His Will - Apocalypse Class Battleship[1b]
Triumph - Apocalypse Class Battleship[1b]
Insomine Veritas - Emperor Class Battleship[1b]
Green Lake - Oberon Class Battleship[1b]
First-Line Cruiser Squadrons: 6[1b]
Second-Line Cruiser Squadrons: 9[1b]
Light Cruiser Squadrons: 12[1b]
Escort Squadrons: 36[1b]
Starhawk Bomber Strike Wings: 43[1b]
Fury Interceptor Strike Wings: 67[1b]
Space Marine Battle Barges: 14[1b]
Space Marine Strike Cruisers: 103[1b]
Thunderhawk Gunships: Various[1b]

that was yours.

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
As pointed out before, an average sized Waagh! would probably outnumber humanity. And they are all soldiers, we are not.

I heard that Thrakas WARGHH on Armageddon was probably one of the largest Imperium has faced since it's foundation and as I understood it the Orks numbered from 2.5 to 3.5 million Ork boyz. That is not over 7 billion Humans Earth is having today.

CORRECTION: Maximum number of Orks during Armageddon engagement was 3.798.000 ( and that is if e count max number for every Ork in exactly 1266 warbands that were on Armageddon during 3'rd war ). And that is still not close enough our numbers today.

Mind you, that Thrakka's Waagh! did not just attack Armageddon, but the entire solar system. There are still orks in space, on other planets, on the moons of Armageddon, maybe even in neighboring systems. In fact, the story around Armageddon even highly suggests this to be the case.

I also highly suspect you pulled that number from the lexicanum, so keep in mind that they were basing the calculation on a section which was a selection of ork bands involved in the ground fighting - not a complete list.

Imperial Armor 8: Raid of Castorel Novem tells the story of a warband which is just on the brink of becoming a Waagh!, and the Raven Guard trying to assassinate the MekBoss who is the driving force behind it in order to prevent that. That warband, across several planets and their fleet, numbered 2.5 billion.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
As pointed out before, an average sized Waagh! would probably outnumber humanity. And they are all soldiers, we are not.

I heard that Thrakas WARGHH on Armageddon was probably one of the largest Imperium has faced since it's foundation and as I understood it the Orks numbered from 2.5 to 3.5 million Ork boyz. That is not over 7 billion Humans Earth is having today.

CORRECTION: Maximum number of Orks during Armageddon engagement was 3.798.000 ( and that is if e count max number for every Ork in exactly 1266 warbands that were on Armageddon during 3'rd war ). And that is still not close enough our numbers today.

Mind you, that Thrakka's Waagh! did not just attack Armageddon, but the entire solar system. There are still orks in space, on other planets, on the moons of Armageddon, maybe even in neighboring systems. In fact, the story around Armageddon even highly suggests this to be the case.

I also highly suspect you pulled that number from the lexicanum, so keep in mind that they were basing the calculation on a section which was a selection of ork bands involved in the ground fighting - not a complete list.

Imperial Armor 8: Raid of Castorel Novem tells the story of a warband which is just on the brink of becoming a Waagh!, and the Raven Guard trying to assassinate the MekBoss who is the driving force behind it in order to prevent that. That warband, across several planets and their fleet, numbered 2.5 billion.

in other words; and i always try to stress this to people. Orks are more numerous than anything in the galaxy, the nids are a grey area which I will believe is still smaller than us till concrete evidence is provided as much as our own.

We would be completely and irrevocably screwed. Given the size of the "average" waaagh!, and the speed at which orks can mass... I give us a month at the outside. Maybe two, but that feels too optimistic.

Hmm... Just curious, but were any of the "We don't have that many Soldiers! The Civilians will be defenseless!" people Americans?

Anvildude wrote:
Hmm... Just curious, but were any of the "We don't have that many Soldiers! The Civilians will be defenseless!" people Americans?

I would bet at least one was. Why? I personally beleive it myself and I am. I know guns traffic more freely in other countries but the mass of people with guns are generally asked to submit to regiments of identification for their local law enforcement to know if they are called to the premise that they can identify if they have guns on site. Obviously in less developed areas that isn't the circumstance but i think it goes without saying the vast majority of people wouldn't provide any real defense against even a small group of orks. The universal sign of respect is a gunshot in the air and you see people drop to the ground, less they are packing and obviously dealt with.

Orks wouldn't really be interested in taking hostages either i'd imagine so it would probably erupt into chaos fast and i imagine people scrambling to pick up guns from shops that have been secured by military (for however long they could) and quickly mob rule would break out when military boundaries fail. Everyone would flee into the wilderness or the like somewhat like zombie doomsday nuts (i am one ) thinking that being away from people means you won't run into them as much which would clearly create dissatisfying results when squigs sniff em out.

Everyone keeps talking like only the boyz are making it planetside. Stompas, Gargants, all the smaller vehicles of mass destruction. somehow i doubt we can take down even one Stompa without using a Nuke, or throwing EVERYTHING we have at it.

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:
Everyone keeps talking like only the boyz are making it planetside. Stompas, Gargants, all the smaller vehicles of mass destruction. somehow i doubt we can take down even one Stompa without using a Nuke, or throwing EVERYTHING we have at it.

I'm assuming the orks can't transport gargants easily like IOM i would have to think that is something they work on for some time while earth is being taken over.

LADZ START KRUMPIN' DA 'UMIES.
Dats dat.
Nuff said.


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I can imagine a Deff Dread stamping down Bond Street, grabbing an SAS man in its' Klaw, and using its' Buzzsaw to saw his head.
Sounds very sadistic, but hey, that's the sort of thing a Dread does.

And then gets introduced to a 120 (125?)mm round.

Its scrap metal, after all, be it futuristic scarp metal or not, its going down from a AP shell.

 Bobthehero wrote:
And then gets introduced to a 120 (125?)mm round.

Its scrap metal, after all, be it futuristic scarp metal or not, its going down from a AP shell.

Lawl no, 40k fluff > RL tank would say we'd be lucky to match a heavy bolter or maybe assault cannon with our tank weaponry you have to remember that even a nasty shell like what you imagine isn't gonna do very much other than put a huge hole in it which more than likely will do nothing to it's combat effectiveness. Also a walker is probably gonna get someplace a tank isn't likely to get as well too 30-40 foot tall mekanical monster smashing through walls seeming pretty easy to avoid the slow aiming and los

HE shells then, if their armor is that gakky.

Heavy bolter? Please... that's 25 mm round, nowhere near the stuff we use. We have sniper rifles chambered in 25mm.

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:
Everyone keeps talking like only the boyz are making it planetside. Stompas, Gargants, all the smaller vehicles of mass destruction. somehow i doubt we can take down even one Stompa without using a Nuke, or throwing EVERYTHING we have at it.

I'm assuming the orks can't transport gargants easily like IOM i would have to think that is something they work on for some time while earth is being taken over.

Fluff bit in the ork codex, page 53

Inbound: "dis is Nugrob da Slayer, callin'. I got me boyz wiv me. fort you lot might want to make a deal. You give us a thousand Shootas each time we visit, and yer ain"t got no more worries, see?"

Governor Kubris: "We'r not giving into your outrageous ultimatum - never!"

Inbound Shame about that, cos i got 'arf a dozen Dreadmobs and a couple a Gargants wiv me"

The underlines are mine.

Orks can transport everything they make. it is NEVER safe to assume that orks cannot do something. Nugrob is such a minor Warlord he does not even have a Waaagh listed in the map on page 19 of the codex.

Orks also have teleportation technology, tractor beams, power fields and much more - it might not always work but any of these will be exxrremly effecitve against modern military - especially if they have no diea what they are up against.

 Big Mek Wurrzog wrote:

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:
Everyone keeps talking like only the boyz are making it planetside. Stompas, Gargants, all the smaller vehicles of mass destruction. somehow i doubt we can take down even one Stompa without using a Nuke, or throwing EVERYTHING we have at it.

I'm assuming the orks can't transport gargants easily like IOM i would have to think that is something they work on for some time while earth is being taken over.

They putt three gargants on a rokk. Crash rokk into wherever they want to start the fight. One gargant gets crushed on impact, one is heavily damaged and gets repaired by meks and one will be ready for action right away. That's the way orks do things.

We would have to put $20 trillion into a new military programme known as the Adeptus Astartes

Booo!

Nah, just start loading up on Flamethrowers, Napalm and Incindiery grenades. Fire Good.

Earth would be an Ork-infested jungle planet with trash in the ocean (more than now) and our skulls would line their forts.