While walking i thought about a little idea, dakka dakka is filled with smart, techy minds, you being one. AND theres no good, deep minecraft 40k mod out there at the moment. so how about I assemble a team and make one,does anyone have an idea how to code a mod in minecraft? if so, we need you! heres some ides for the mod;

basic imperium stuff:
-make promethium for fuel, made with putting lava in a furnace and smelting it
-make a mechancum table, the main tool in this mod, power it with promethium
next:
-find a STC, similar to discoveries in thaumcraft they allow you to make the stuff, find as loot in dungeons
-build power armour and a bolter

intermediate:
-find an ork/enemy fort
-raid fort for more STCs
-arm yourself quite a bit
-find a titan......

a titan is like an abonded on from 40k, they avry in class but the bigger the more loot. they have bosses like chaos lords or ork warbosses.

expert:
-fight through a titan
-loot
-kill boss, take advanced STC, used for VERY high level stuff. like land raiders!
-make mechanicus armour, use this to build bigger stuff like tanks and vehicles. make them by like a coke oven or a blast furnace in railcraft

ENDGAME
-make support signal, it spawns allies
-invade biomes with a conquerer flag
-orbitally bombard areas with a battle barge
-make artifects
-build forts for your allies
-burn the heretics

what else could be endgame in this???

so, what do you think, could we assemble a good enough team? are you in, with enough dedication i truelly believe we could do this!

I'll playtest

your in! any other ideas for it?

Run it with forge, and also, more races

Modloader is easier to program with AFAIK. Anyone able to code in java?

@matapata i know, but the imperium will be the first, then chaos then orks, then tau and so on.

@thenoobbomb agreed we need omeone with java experience, im sure someone on a site with thousands knows advanced java

modloader may be easier, but forge makes it multiplayer

While Im no coding genius, I dont mind testing any weirdo contraptions you lot come up with.

So Id like to put myself down as Playtester, even if the stuff isnt yet complete and you 'just want to see what it does right now'

People do realise, I can't code. I'm looking for a head coder and a few other guys. Playtesters will be needed once we have a form of playable mod. If you know any body that can help call in a favour from them please. On the forge/modloader situation it'll be up to the coder.

I think your best bet to get a coder on board would be to create the pseudo code and maybe even some flowcharts as to how you want everything to work in game. This means you can show them exactly what you want them to do and it will give them a better idea as to what they are letting themselves in for.

 Optio wrote:
I think your best bet to get a coder on board would be to create the pseudo code and maybe even some flowcharts as to how you want everything to work in game. This means you can show them exactly what you want them to do and it will give them a better idea as to what they are letting themselves in for.

Sorry but my English isn't that good, could someone explain?

Write it down on paper, the coder will be able to translate it.

EG, as far as marks on Exam Papers are concerned (within Excel, which I beleive is Java):
If a studet receives more than 90 marks, A*, else if they receive more than 80 marks, A, else if they receive 70 marks, B , else they fail(etc etc, I know I missed a few)

=IF(Mark Received =<90,"A*",IF(Mark Received =<80,"A",IF(Mark Received =<70,"B","C")))

Pseudocode (derived from pseudo and code) is a description
of a computer programming algorithm that uses the structural
conventions of programming languages, but omits detailed
subroutines or language-specific syntax. ( WikipediA )

...written in a pseudo-code that resembles a computer language but
avoids excessive detail by lapsing from time to time into ordinary
English. This lets us specify quite a bit of the program before we
have worked out all aspects of it. On larger programs, it is
valuable to begin with pseudo-code and refine it in stages until
it is all executable. This way you can revise and improve the
design at a high level without writing any executable code, yet
remain close to a form which can be made executable.
(Software Tools, Kernighan, Plauger)

Whatever you created would only need to be basic, merely how each item interacts with each other and what it does and what elements from other game mechanics it needs to draw upon. The coder himself would probably draw up his own final copy of the code to work from but this would give them a basis as to where to start. If your still not sure there is tons of stuff on pseudo code on google.

I don't think I'll be able to do that, could someone volunteer to write the pseudo code, we can talk using PMs about the specifics.

I dont mind trying to...

I can program a bit in java, I could make textures if need be


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when I say a bit I mean I have a ridiculously basic understanding in java, but I could learn how to program with minecraft.

Can we have devastator weaponry? so we can have missile launchers,plasma cannons and lascannons.

Wow, were gaining quite a team on this one!
So heres the list so far

Pseudo coders-ihatenids
-psychadelicmime

Textures-psychadelicmime

Playtesters-matapata98
-noobbomb

So far this seems like it's getting off to a good start!

And yes, there bs devastator weapons among tens of STCs

So the op doesn't have any coding skills, doesn't know how make a mod and is basically just wishlisting features?

I don't mean t sound harsh but isn't this a bit of a strech to ask from dakka community when the only relevent thing is that it has 40k skins?

Why not go for something simple? Like village defence game where you defend villagers from monsters. It would be easier to make (most features are in the game) and you would have something which you can build upon.

Posts like are usually... interesting.

 purplefood wrote:
Posts like are usually... interesting.

Because words.

I do agree with Illuknisaa though. The OP just seems to be wishlisting stuff and adding nothing to the project.

Also, not to piss on your dreams but have you got any idea how much time and effort is involved with making a proper mod?

I've only done a tiny bit of coding for a single game in the past, it was torture. And that was nothing but scripting a few NPC's and quests. Add in texture packs, item models, item skins, item mechanics etc. etc. and you're looking at one giant project that will most likely take years to complete.

A mod is not something you make on a whim.

Yeah, I second that actually. I was working with an epic 40K mod for the game World in Conflict, using terrain deformation and making the maps a lot larger.

A mod is not something that you just do on a whim. My mod went together during the course of 5 months before we even got anywhere near an alpha, with 3 different units for each side. Our goal was something like 30 units, plus titans. The project was shelved as a result of the immense problems with the coding.

I still have the mod, and play it a little from time to time.

This might sound unbeleivable "Please Punch Me in the Face", but we could just come together and complete Death's mod?

Also, TDA, Im also down for Playtester

A mod's gonna take a long time, but I'm willing to put effort into it. I tried programming an iphone app and that took 6 months, so I know how hard it can be.

IHateNids wrote:This might sound unbeleivable "Please Punch Me in the Face", but we could just come together and complete Death's mod?

Also, TDA, Im also down for Playtester

psychadelicmime wrote:A mod's gonna take a long time, but I'm willing to put effort into it. I tried programming an iphone app and that took 6 months, so I know how hard it can be.

agreed, i know this will take ages, but its something i am willing to work hard on. i know how to code, just not in java. im decent in HTML and GML, but thats all

Perhaps start with reskins and custom maps.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
Perhaps start with reskins and custom maps.

Exactly.
A, say, titan or something like that, will be in the final version you told us about. Those need to be build anyways.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:
Perhaps start with reskins and custom maps.

reskins? sorry but what are those.

also i think we should start small, and have a base mod we can start off on so thats why i think we should start the easy things first

Reskins =/= texture pack.

Making new textures for existing mobs.

Your orks in the finished mod could simply be vanilla zombies with a new skin and you could use those in conjunction with a custom map (such as the titan) to get a lot of the feel of 40k with far less work than a full mod.

Hell you could just retexture bows to be bolters and the various types of swords to be different weapons.

I might retexture bows to be shootas or sniper lasguns, but I really hope that we could make a bolter, a bow and arrow doesn't seem to fit as a bolter. I love the swords idea, maybe we could find a way to make zombies spawn with swords, and retexture them to be feral orks.

Swords:

Wood - Club (orky!)
Stone - Choppa (feral orks?)
Iron - Chainsword
Gold - Power Sword
Diamond - Relic Sword

We could add balkons weapon mod for hammers(thunder hammers), spears(power weapons), cannons (lascannons), muskets(scout and imp veteran shotgun), and other stuff!

Psychedelic, could you make a texture pack for your ideas. And don't use adfly, too many viruses.

I want to make a mod because we can add so much more stuff and have them purpose built.

Edit: Wrong thread. If a MOD can delete this, I'd appreciate it.

ok, I'll see what I can do for the texture pack. On second thought, the balkons mod is a bad idea, we would have to combine two mods which would be frustrating.

 psychadelicmime wrote:
ok, I'll see what I can do for the texture pack. On second thought, the balkons mod is a bad idea, we would have to combine two mods which would be frustrating.

That would indeed be rather frustrating.

Feel free to p.m. me about what you want to see in my test texture pack

Sure!

I'll playtest and(Not very likely, sorry) texture perhaps

I can happily playtest, i used to be able to do java but im a bit (very) rusty when it comes to the advanced stuff

I have no idea if this is still an active thread fellas...

I'm really interested to see this mod done! I got some ideas, like specific biome spawning: wild Orks in the jungle or in the swamp, Necron in the desert, Chaos SpaceMarines and daemon in the Warp/Nether.

I read somewhere ''battlebarge'', not at full scale I hope! I think it would be a bit too big for a minecraft map. If it's not at full scale, I have done one and I can give it as model

Oh... and no I don't know a thing about java and I think there is enough people for the texture pack. So I can playtest xD and maybe do some minigame or adventure map using the mod

well the texture pack a guy was working is no longer in production for reasons I forget, but if anyone else wants to help make the texture pack be my guest

I could do some textures if you wish ^-^

gladly! I compiled a list of stuff ill get it!

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
basic imperium stuff:
-make promethium for fuel, made with putting lava in a furnace and smelting it

Also need to be able to do this with ice blocks (See: Caves of Ice).

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
-make a mechancum table, the main tool in this mod, power it with promethium

Needs to also have a way to store promethium then, possibly with the same mod that uses Liquiducts or with Buildcraft.

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
-find a STC, similar to discoveries in thaumcraft they allow you to make the stuff, find as loot in dungeons

Ugh, oh god no. That just screws over any attempt for multiplayer. Give the option to make them, however expensive, or make dungeons more common at least.

ork for zombie sounds cool,
Spider could be tyranid
Half the size of a creeper and make a squig
Skeleton could be a chaos marine
wither skeleton good be chaos lord
wither king as daemon prince
zombie pigmen as cultitsts
No idea what other mobs could be, but villagers could be servitors

Crafting table could be red and have the mechanicum seal
Bow could be bolter
Golem could make a dreadnought

For swords,
Wood=combat knife
Stone=chainsword
iron=power sword
Gold=Crozius arcanum
Diamond= force glaive

Armour,
Leather=power (weak bit for good reasons I'll explain later)
Iron=artificer armour
Gold=chaplain
chainmail=librarian
Diamond=terminator (I'll let you do that, it'll be hard )

Reason I chose leather was mainly so that....

Using dyes you could make different chapters
Black dye=black Templars
Green dye=salamanders
Blue dye=Ultramarines
Red dye=blood angels
Yellow dye=imperial fists
White dye=White scars
Purple dye=night lords
Light grey=iron hands
Dark grey=iron warriors
Cyan dye=alpha legion

and a big thanks to psychadelicmime for helping me with half of these stuff and offering to do the initial texture pack

I'm Just looking at some ideas for the Bolter at the Moment.

We should set up a facebook group chat or something

I don't mind

I've just done the Chainsword, I'll upload them later

nice! please don't use mediafire, too many viruses

What should I use?

I could eMail them or something...

are you not able to post documents on dakka?

ah! Just noticed!

pretty cool! so how much you done so far, and don't worry I know you've only started so I don't expect much to be done

Will upload more tomorrow.

there really nice! except I find the handle and blade of the chain sword to be a bit out-of proportion if you don't mind me saying.

Yeah, I completely agree, I'll rework that

How about this?


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We might need to test these, but I can't at the moment because I've got no program on my Mac to open up the .jar.

yeah that's really good!

The power (iron) sword

that's really good! but powersword is iron

o yea

It's got the correct filename

nice!

Is there anything else you can think of at the moment that needs doing?

I'd like the armour, that'd be cool

As far as (Necron-ing) mobs goes:

Enderman = Wraith

Slime = Spyder (just get smaller for each new 'layer')
Skeleton = Warrior
Wither Skeleton = Immortal
Cave Spider = Sarabs
Ghast = Destroyer

Ender Dragon = Doom Scythe

split passive/hostile/boss

I wouldn't like an all neurone cast but I agree with the cave spider, enderman and enderdragon


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I have no idea what the ghast and slime could be, something from a faction we haven't used yet preferebly

I just thought it would add flavour, bearing in mind that is 7 mobs out of roughly 22, so its not that many

Sorry i got in here kinda late but i actually found a game that this might be even more perfect for... its called Starmade .... basically its like minecraft but instead of biomes there are planets and you build a spaceship to fly around between them and fight space pirates(DE/ Orks anyone?), discover abandoned space stations ( space hulks/ necron lairs), and trade with trading outposts( AWWWW YEAH BABY Rogue Traders). The game is currently in alpha and is free so just throwing it out there

Can anybody post a full list of mobs? Everytime I think I've got them all another pops up!

Zombie
Zombie Villager
Skeleton
Spider
Spider Jockey
Enderman
Wither Skeleton
Wither
Zombie Pigman
Ghast
Blaze
Magma Cube
Slime
Enderdragon
Pig
Cow
Chicken
Silverfish
Sheep
Wolf
Ocelot
Bat

zombie villager should be a genestealer Hybrid. Zombie should be Genestealer.

silverfish should be Scarabs.
Bats should be cyber skulls.

I'm loving bats being those inquisitor familiars!


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Also cat and wolf could also be imquisitorial with skulls and optic stuff on there heads

I hope I didn't miss any...

Sure you didn't, thanks for the list

Ah, good.
Happy to help, I'm just not good at making texture packs and all

Full list;

Zombie=Ork
Zombie Villager=some other Ork
Skeleton=chaos marine
Spider=tyranid
Cave spider=gene stealer
Enderman=wraith
Wither Skeleton=chaos lord
Wither=daemon prince
Zombie Pigman=chaos cultist
Ghast=Disk of tzeentch
Blaze=flamer
Magma Cube
Slime=chaos spawn
Enderdragon=Doom scythe
Pig
Cow
Chicken
Silverfish=scarab
Sheep
Wolf=familiar
Villager=servitor
Ocelot=familiar
Bat=familiar

A wolf could be a Cyber-wolf, as the Arbitors use. Cows could be Groxes. The slimes could perhaps be chaos spawn of various kinds. The blaze a Flamer, and the ghast would have to be some sort of champion on a disk.

I advocate the sheep being some sort of eldar construct maybe. The problem is there isn't enough mobs to put all the races in.

I'm also thinking maybe turning the Nether into the Warp, and having crazy textures and stuff in it.

Cobwebs should be alien gooey stuff. Pigs maybe should be squigs.

Squids! I forgot squids! :0

Tools:

Before reading; I want the gold of each tool to not be the tool but be a cool badge of office for a faction, like the crozius.

Axe
W=average irk style axe
S=better irk style axe
I=chain axe
G=spiritseer staff
D=power axe

Shovel
W=Ork baton
S=stone club
I=shock baton
G=Acursed crozius
D=Power mace

Pickaxe
W=Ork generic melee weapon
S=Trenching tool
I=Ornate Trenching tool
G=ethereal staff
D=thunder hammer!!!

Hoe
W=civilian farming scythe
S=Ork Kama
I=weapon style metal scythe
G=DE incubi klaive
D=Man-reaper


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Updated mob list with ideas for ghost and stuff

Personally I think Zombie Pigmen ought be Eldar- this would require re-voicing them as well, of course. This is because they leave you alone until you attack them, then retaliate with incredible fury.

The Nether could be the Webways, with Nether portals as Webway Gates- Obsidian could become Wraithbone.

Spiders, instead of Tyranids (though that does fit...) could be Screamers of Tzeench (the melta mantas) so that Spider Jockeys are Chaos Marines riding them? Or, if you could get separate textures for when Spider Jockeys spawn, they could be Dark Eldar Hellions.

I could possibly do some of these, any you guise want to see especially?

That's quite a good idea! Also any ideas from the builders side of things anvil?


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Anything really, once I access my computer I'll compile a large list of textures which you can go through systematically.

i could do some testing if you want my email is

Sorry only people who have been on dakka dakka for a while and we know them, sorry


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sorry for the changes tyranidcrusher but;

change chainsword to the wooden and have stone aas a witch blade, this'll have the pigmen (now the elder) to have witch blades. then change zombies (instead of orks) being khornate chaos marines and having zombie villagers chaos cultists.

so in general, chaos will be in the overwolrd, elder with 1 dark elder in nether and end = necron land. end stone could be living metal and the nether could be the web way (this would have obsidian being wraith bone, that's sounds cool and the portal thingy being yellowy) as anvil has said.

Mobs;

Over world hostile
-Zombie=khornate marine
-Zombie Villager=chaos cultist
-Skeleton=chaos marine
-Spider=screamers
-Slime=chaos spawn
-Cave spider=tyranid
-Silverfish=scarab

Wither mobs;
-Wither Skeleton=dark eldar
-Wither=dark elder grotesque

Nether mobs;
-Zombie Pigman=eldar
-Ghast=generic elder floaty tank
-Blaze=harlequin shadowseer
-Magma Cube=
Ender mobs;
Enderdragon=Doom scythe
Enderman=wraith

Passive mobs;
Pig
Cow
Chicken
Sheep
Wolf=familiar
Villager=servitor
Ocelot=familiar
Bat=familiar

tools;

Axe
W=average irk style axe
S=better irk style axe
I=chain axe
G=spiritseer staff
D=power axe

Shovel
W=Ork baton
S=stone club
I=shock baton
G=Acursed crozius
D=Power mace

Pickaxe
W=Ork generic melee weapon
S=Trenching tool
I=Ornate Trenching tool
G=ethereal staff
D=thunder hammer!!!

Hoe
W=civilian farming scythe
S=Ork Kama
I=weapon style metal scythe
G=DE incubi klaive
D=Man-reaper

Sword
W=chainsword
S=witch blade
I=power sword
G=crozius
D= power glaive/spear

This was supposed to be a mod, not a texture pack.

they are discussing the Texture pack that comes with the mod

Ok then, to start of mod discussion,
New mobs:
Space marine/chaos space marine: bit like skeletons, but with more health and a bit more bulky.

Items:
Servo skull: craftable item that can be placed and acts like a wolf when placed.

I assume it will be the model that's bulkier rather than the actual boxes it uses?

A reason we've completely dropped the mod is because we don't have anybody able to code it, I'm currently learning numerous coding languages and java will be soon so I hope to be able to start the mod, but thatll be months.

We are doing it a bit like this I think:
Texture pack - Resource Pack (with sound?) - Mod.

Yeah, and how's it going on the pack crusher?

Sorry I had to drop the project guys. But it's great to see it coming along, If I can I'll play test it.

EDIT: Holy crap, Crusher, those textures are amazing! Way better than I could even dream of doing!

No worries mime, you came up with half the ideas with the textures.

Ah, Thanks mime, I haven't done anything else, any specific Ideas for items?

Make iron blocks a bit.. darker.
Dark-grey metal.

Okay, I'll be right on it!

GrimDark enough?

Nice! For stuff to do just look at the list I put up and pick one!