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Post by: TheMostWize
So I was just sitting here thinking I can not stand when I am playing a game against someone and they have all their crap all over the gaming table. It looks like we ran around the house and grabbed random stuff to use as terrain.... the only problem is we did not do that! We took all this time to create a nice board and build nice terrain to have epic battles and then it is ruined by coffee cups or beer bottles, iPads, countless numbers of books (rulebook, army book) and who knows what else on the table.
Yes this is a rant....
Just curious am I the only one who feels this way?
Oh and there are places for keeping this stuff that is not on the playing table!
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Post by: Taurinus Manus
The unsupervised child. . . "Wow! This is so cool. Can I see that?" *Drop*
The spectator player. . . "Dude, that is so stupid. Why would you do that? You know he has. . ."
The model critic. . . "You know that color isn't the correct red for Blood Angles. . ."
There are more.
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Post by: TheMostWize
I love model critics... The best ones are the ones that tell you that you should of added a color here or there or that you messed up this tiny hightlight when their models generally look like *insert explicit here*.
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Post by: Taurinus Manus
Exactly right!  Another favorite line of the critic: "Here look at this picture, your models don't look anything like it."
How about the forgetful gamer. . . "Ok, that is all my shooting. Oh wait, I forgot to move! Can I go ahead and move?"
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Post by: wowsmash
I understand the messy are thing. I also have OCD but I've found even though my wife finds its funny to tease me about it. It generally annoys others so I find if I dial it back and bite my tongue then I'm not the bad guy, just the really clean an organized guy?
My only big issue is the kids thing. I'm a parent and I wouldn't dream of taking my daughter with me. She's just not old enough to understand not to touch. We had a few running around on an FNM night while me and a friend were trying to do a 3k game in the corner of the store. One 5 year old walks up to the table and just grabs my friends iPad and started to walk of with it. I had to stop the little dude and take it from him without scaring him to bad. Then I'm like ok who's kid is this? Did you know your son almost bought you a new 500 dallor iPad? Come to find out dad's in one of the pods for FNM totally not even paying attention to his kid. I had to keep an eye on the squirt so he didn't wonder out of the store. /sigh
If your gunna bring your kids to game night please be responsible and at least watch them!
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Post by: precinctomega
People who leave their dice all over the table. Quite apart from the practical issue of them getting confused with other dice, it completely detracts from the immersion of the game experience if there are dice all over the place!
R.
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Post by: stratassj
Personally, I can't stand the ones who are looking for a game, but refuse to play you because of what army you play. I had it happen with my old tau in 4th edition.
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Post by: Eilif
-Unpainted figures.
-Folks who carelessly treat other peoples (or FLGS's) Miniatures and terrain
-Counters on the playing surface.
-Whiners
-Players who offer unsolicited commentary and rules judgments on games they are not playing.
Of course most of this is moot since I now play almost entirely with my club at members homes rather than at public venues.
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Post by: rigeld2
"Counters on playing surfaces"
... How else do you remember how many wounds a model has suffered?
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Post by: Swan-of-War
Strangers who come up and tell you how much they hate the game you're playing - like you're supposed to care.
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Post by: blood reaper
rigeld2 wrote:"Counters on playing surfaces"
... How else do you remember how many wounds a model has suffered?
Names of the character or model on a piece of paper?
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Post by: infinite_array
Cheetos fingers.
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Post by: pretre
Yo fingaz is orange, Tupac.
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Post by: jonolikespie
I play vampire counts so there is no way for me to justify being annoyed at people who leave their stuff all over the table, I'll constantly have dead trails following my units waiting for them to be brought back into play. Having said that I try to keep them out of the way and my dice/rulebooks/tape measure/etc are never in the playing area. Automatically Appended Next Post: blood reaper wrote:rigeld2 wrote:"Counters on playing surfaces"
... How else do you remember how many wounds a model has suffered?
Names of the character or model on a piece of paper?
That can get very confusing when playing things other than 40k.
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Post by: whill4
What I find annoying is not having enough time to build and paint all the cool units I come up with.
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Post by: Taurinus Manus
The stinky kid. . . Hey pal, you smell like Limburger cheese. And wash your hair.
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Post by: Azreal13
Line infantry/troops choices etc..
Not within the game as such, I just hate having to paint tens of basically the same model in the same colour scheme, knowing that in all likelihood they will either be mown down like wheat or spend an entire game camped on an objective and very likely achieving nothing.
When actually playing, it's when other people start a conversation with you or your opponent, which has nothing to do with the game. You now have the choice of being rude to your opponent and stopping the game, or blanking the other person and being rude to them!
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Post by: Empchild
My biggest piss me off moment is when people sit there and comment on every aspect of your game. I asked someone the other day if he wanted to play instead of me because he wouldn't shut up and made comments on every dice roll. Generally I don't mind spectators but to me that's the biggest pain in the butt annoyance.
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Post by: xxvaderxx
TheMostWize wrote:So I was just sitting here thinking I can not stand when I am playing a game against someone and they have all their crap all over the gaming table. It looks like we ran around the house and grabbed random stuff to use as terrain.... the only problem is we did not do that! We took all this time to create a nice board and build nice terrain to have epic battles and then it is ruined by coffee cups or beer bottles, iPads, countless numbers of books (rulebook, army book) and who knows what else on the table.
Yes this is a rant....
Just curious am I the only one who feels this way?
Oh and there are places for keeping this stuff that is not on the playing table!
What? dice and manuals on a war gaming table, heresy!!!!
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Post by: TheMostWize
Except I never said anything about dice.
And besides you can keep your dice in your area having them dropped all over the middle of the board like they are objective markers is lame.
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Post by: oni
Always good to see this topic rehashed...
In no particular order:
1. The Dirtball (This is that smelly, unwashed, greasy haired gamer that you feel like you'll catch something if you get too close.)
2. Kids (Dislike 'em, enough said.)
3. The Garbage Pale (This is the gamer that leaves their gak all over the battlefield; dice, templates, 'dead' models, books, etc.)
4. The Know it All (The title pretty much explains itself.)
The list goes on, but I should get back to work
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Post by: TheMostWize
oni wrote:
3. The Garbage Pale (This is the gamer that leaves their gak all over the battlefield; dice, templates, 'dead' models, books, etc.)
I hope you don't mind me using this term from now on!
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Post by: Alfndrate
What's wrong with leaving a template in an easy to grab place if you're sharing with your opponent? Where do I place my codex/rulebook, etc... if there isn't extra area surrounding the table? The floor?
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Post by: conker249
Only happened once thankfully. Lady's kid messed his diaper, she changes it on the table behind us, puts said used diaper on OUR gaming table while she cleaned up her kid.
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Post by: nectarprime
Alfndrate wrote:What's wrong with leaving a template in an easy to grab place if you're sharing with your opponent? Where do I place my codex/rulebook, etc... if there isn't extra area surrounding the table? The floor?
That's what I was wondering...
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
The smell.
The fething smell. Annoying people you can move away from, know it alls can be avoided.
I'm talking about the bastards that just stink, they wear the clothes from the day before, don't wash, don't use deodorant, don't clean themselves.
The local store in town has about 5 or 6 young men who have not got this down, they smell bad, one of whom smells so bad of unwashed and overly, self-manually-primed, man bits that you can cut the air with a butter knife.
LISTEN TO ME, IF YOU HAVEN'T WASHED AND PUT ON CLEAN CLOTHES, EVERY DAY, EACH DAY, YOU SMELL OFFENSIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE. GO, LEAVE THE SHOP AND BATHE.
You getting depressed cos girls won't talk to you? Upset that you're not making friends, even among the nerds at your store?
ITS BECAUSE YOU STINK! TAKE A SHOWER AND USE FRESHLY WASHED CLOTHES.
YOU ARE MAKING THE REST OF US LOOK BAD YOU FILTHY BUGGERS, WASH YOUR HAIR... ALL OF IT!!!
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Post by: hotsauceman1
My dice, mostly when light shines on them, I often get pips mixed up.
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Post by: The Shadow
MeanGreenStompa wrote:The smell.
The fething smell. Annoying people you can move away from, know it alls can be avoided.
I'm talking about the bastards that just stink, they wear the clothes from the day before, don't wash, don't use deodorant, don't clean themselves.
The local store in town has about 5 or 6 young men who have not got this down, they smell bad, one of whom smells so bad of unwashed and overly, self-manually-primed, man bits that you can cut the air with a butter knife.
LISTEN TO ME, IF YOU HAVEN'T WASHED AND PUT ON CLEAN CLOTHES, EVERY DAY, EACH DAY, YOU SMELL OFFENSIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE. GO, LEAVE THE SHOP AND BATHE.
You getting depressed cos girls won't talk to you? Upset that you're not making friends, even among the nerds at your store?
ITS BECAUSE YOU STINK! TAKE A SHOWER AND USE FRESHLY WASHED CLOTHES.
YOU ARE MAKING THE REST OF US LOOK BAD YOU FILTHY BUGGERS, WASH YOUR HAIR... ALL OF IT!!!
You forgot to put "/rant" at the end of your post...
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Post by: NAVARRO
conker249 wrote:Only happened once thankfully. Lady's kid messed his diaper, she changes it on the table behind us, puts said used diaper on OUR gaming table while she cleaned up her kid.
Hey rub your dice on the dirty diaper for good luck... If you play nurgle
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Post by: hotsauceman1
I would throw the diaper at the lady.
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Post by: conker249
there was a lot of other things happening too, guy asks the game group if they want to do a mini tournament. I said no because at that moment i was teaching a new 40k player with a new dark eldar army how to play/use dark eldar more effectivly. Other sheeple were quiet untill i spoke up, then they spoke up for themselves and agreed that we just like freeplay to choose our point levels and our opponents. Guy then tells us from now on both warhammer nights each week are going to be campaign only. Campaigners get table priority and the "douchebags" that dont play it get to fight over tables with the heroclix crowd. Tells us he cleared it with the owner so dont ask him about it... Guy doesnt work there, is there everyday because his wife drops him off there like daycare and picks him up at closing. This guy really dislikes me for taking the game"too lightly", challenging his non existing authority, and best reason so far because im a BRONY(his words) The last one makes me laugh, love and tolerate eh?
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
conker249 wrote:there was a lot of other things happening too, guy asks the game group if they want to do a mini tournament. I said no because at that moment i was teaching a new 40k player with a new dark eldar army how to play/use dark eldar more effectivly. Other sheeple were quiet untill i spoke up, then they spoke up for themselves and agreed that we just like freeplay to choose our point levels and our opponents. Guy then tells us from now on both warhammer nights each week are going to be campaign only. Campaigners get table priority and the "douchebags" that dont play it get to fight over tables with the heroclix crowd. Tells us he cleared it with the owner so dont ask him about it... Guy doesnt work there, is there everyday because his wife drops him off there like daycare and picks him up at closing. This guy really dislikes me for taking the game"too lightly", challenging his non existing authority, and best reason so far because im a BRONY(his words) The last one makes me laugh, love and tolerate eh?
Raise this with the owner, express your ire with this guy's attitude at the same time.
Do it in an adult, calm and non-insulting manner, you will gain more support from the owner this way.
Include reference to trying to teach another new player the game and the attitude of this manchild putting that guy off/coming across as bullying.
Reference that tutorial games for new players should not play second fiddle to a tournament that is unofficial and hostile to newcomers.
Remind him that Newcomer = Sales...
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Post by: precinctomega
I'd say that isn't the sort of persistent annoyance that this thread is about, but more a one-off situation that needs handling carefully.
R.
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Post by: conker249
Yeah I should have thrown in an end rant. Or do it differently. Carry on.
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Post by: BlapBlapBlap
I'm not sure if I should...
Hmmm...
I've got to say people who decide to make a wargame but don't really care about others opinions or are downright rude and shallow minded (anybody remember Diognesethedog's short-lived time here? Yeah. That guy.)
It's also probably just a pet peeve of mine, but people who develop a game without any sort of reality check; those who refuse to show a product because it's 'revolutionary' and they're afraid people will steal it (I've tried to explain they have copyright over all of their work, including the games, but to no avail); those who without any product to show ask for the classic 'design team to work on little to no wage'; the people who haven't even playtested the game more than once, and get incredibly defensive about any of their decisions.
Now I feel like I've hurt somebody...
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Post by: precinctomega
they have copyright over all of their work, including the games
No, they don't. As was established waaaaay back in the early D&D days, you can't copyright a rules system, only the words in which it is expressed. So if someone thinks they really genuinely do have a revolutionary and utterly original system that will forever alter the landscape of wargames, then they probably should keep quiet about it until they've developed it to a publishable product.
However, it's also fair to say that, if someone thinks they really genuinely do have a revolutionary and utterly original system that will forever alter the landscape of wargames, they're wrong.
R.
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Post by: BlapBlapBlap
Yeah, I guess. However, publishing does put a stamp on it to state it existed at this time, which is useful if you really need to keep it secure. To be honest though, you shouldn't tackle a ruleset for the public without testing and contact with them unless you have an incredible pool of experience, and even then you need focus groups and beta runs. Listing out a few mechanics or the theme without context really isn't contact.
Ulimately: Don't ever listen to me, lest your face melt.
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Post by: Trondheim
Non norwegian players and such, learn Norwegian or cease to frequent the places I game, that and oafs who dl not bath.
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Post by: Da Boss
If they are learning but have a three year old's level, is that acceptable?
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Post by: Kiwidru
If its becoming propagated i feel obligated to be the spelling nazi.
Pail = bucket. (As in garbage pail)
Pale = feeble/weak (that effort paled in comparison); lacking strong color (India pale ale)
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Kiwidru wrote:If its becoming propagated i feel obligated to be the spelling nazi.
Pail = bucket. (As in garbage pail)
Pale = feeble/weak (that effort paled in comparison); lacking strong color (India pale ale)
If it 's becoming propagated , I feel obligated to be the spelling Nazi.
There you go...
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Post by: Kiwidru
Are you my long lost brother? Capitalization/punctuation nazi, is that you?
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Post by: Widowscar
people with either unpainted or poorly painted armnies who don't just roll the dice but instead launch them across the table at your painted minis. Too many times I've had to ask people to chill out with their dice when they're knocking stuff over.
Similar to that, the guys who insist on scraping their models against yours when their base-to-mini size makes true b2b contact impractical.
Basically people who don't respect the time it has taken to build and paint an army because they have never done so themselves.
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Post by: happygolucky
I don't have really too much peeves in real life, I get more peeves when on the internet and people get new releases for their army then complain about how it has been all "ultranerfed" and how the army is rubbish now when the new releases have been out for less than 24 hours, I mean c'mon talking about not giving it a chance... I mean I went on to the General 40k discussion here to see what the new Tau were like, obviously silly me forgot that people like to see instantly a safe "autowin" with spammable units and all I see are a few people (note: I did not say all people just a few) crying that their rail guns are S8 and how they are useless now... S8? USELESS? I play CSM and Orks... S8 is amazing and you also have AP1 and (from what I have heard) TWIN-LINKED? I use a Forgefiend regularly as well as Deffkoptas and S8 takes down MC and majority of vehicles, also you get extra shooting buffs from other units, etc... HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN? then I guess after a month people will be saying that Tau rock the shores, which leaves me to another peeve... Hypocrisy, I mean it keeps happening when a new book is released, because from what I see a few people are not seeing "draigowing-cron-air-of-awesomeness-autowin" and cry every time they see balanced books (which to me is great I love the way they have balanced everything, one thing that the Games Developers in GW got right) then after a month they think its a decent dex... but still not Draigowing 5th ed... Newsflash: the codexes are not going to have an "instawin" button anymore and you should be grateful that we will be seeing more variety in lists now instead of the same mirrored lists like in 5th ed. *Deep breaths* /Rant over
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Post by: doc1234
Unhelppful forum helpers. Whatever you ask on whatever subject, and the reply you get is "google it".
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Post by: rigeld2
Entitled forum posters. You know, the ones that do absolutely zero research and you can tell because the answer is in the first few hits when you google their question.
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Post by: doc1234
rigeld2 wrote:Entitled forum posters. You know, the ones that do absolutely zero research and you can tell because the answer is in the first few hits when you google their question.
And what if the answer wasn't in the first few hits, or the poster was after opinions of people who tried different things and clarification?
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Post by: rigeld2
doc1234 wrote:rigeld2 wrote:Entitled forum posters. You know, the ones that do absolutely zero research and you can tell because the answer is in the first few hits when you google their question.
And what if the answer wasn't in the first few hits, or the poster was after opinions of people who tried different things and clarification?
As long as it looks like they've done some research or word the question correctly, they're not entitled are they?
I see far more of the "google it" type posts to poorly worded or zero research posts than I have the latter.
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Post by: angel of ecstasy
People complaining about me never showering, shaving, cutting my hair, changing clothes.
If you can't stand the smell of people, then move out to the fething woods.
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Post by: LuciusAR
Mainly the ‘back seat’ gamer who isn’t taking part but insists on looking over your shoulder and giving a running commentary on everything you do and critiquing the gamers decisions. Normally they don’t know the rules that well anyway.
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Post by: nectarprime
angel of ecstasy wrote:People complaining about me never showering, shaving, cutting my hair, changing clothes.
If you can't stand the smell of people, then move out to the fething woods.
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Post by: angel of ecstasy
nectarprime wrote: angel of ecstasy wrote:People complaining about me never showering, shaving, cutting my hair, changing clothes.
If you can't stand the smell of people, then move out to the fething woods.
And don't forget to bring your deodorant.
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Post by: Frankenberry
I'm fairly easy-going when it comes to asshats permeating my LGS, if only because the 40k crowd is sparse from time to time. But generally everyone acts respectfully and knows how to do laundry and utilize soap and water.
Although, my LGS plays host to a wide variety of gamers, which tends to be hectic, but cool mostly. For a while there was a conflict with 40k/Fantasy/Warmahordes folks and the Yu-gi-oh guys. Usually the tabletop guys would be adults, guys who I'd known most of my child and young adult life, and the random newcomers, but by and large, a cool lot. The Yu-gi-oh players on the otherhand? Not so much.
The smell was pretty impressive too. Given that the room we played in was no very well ventilated and on the small side, it got pretty disgusting. The range of players was certainly different and in some cases, creepy. But it's a card game so...whatever. The attitudes, man, all of these guys were some varying degree of asshat. It was shocking really, watching some ten-year old snot tell a friend of mine to take his "Gay little toys and GTFO.". I'll never forget that.
So yeah, card players. They've ruined two separate venues I've played at, using the same tactics every time. Second most annoying on my list would probably be a WAAC player(s). I get wanting to win, everyone wants to win, but that crap just takes it to a level that can't be understood.
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Post by: Alfndrate
I strongly dislike the card players at my local venue(s).... Thankfully at my current FLGS, the store owner regulates them to the basement, so unless gaming gets hectic up on the main floor, they're all downstairs, out of sight and out of mind.
Unfortunately they're also where all the terrain is stored... You walk down the stairs, and they just look at you like you've broken into their home, a few have been friendly enough to give me a hand when I try to carry three tubs of terrain and a GW grass mat up the steps, but the majority of them are annoying little stench-fiends. They're loud, they smell, and they're offensive in site and language they use. Granted, when around friends, I'll curse like a sailor, but when I'm in public where people take their kids (my FLGS is also a model car, train, and remote controlled car shop and is the majority of his business), my language would rival a saint for purity of word. Yet, I hear these kids telling each other to go feth themselves because they're cheats, or because they're gay, or w/e slur of the week is hip with the kids.
I've yet to play there during the summers, but I'm not looking forward to it... It was bad in the winter when the heaters down there would be on, and the warmth coupled with the thirty bodies down in an horribly ventilated area just makes for a gagging level of stank. The worst was a few weeks ago during a Friday Night Magic Tournament when one of the guys was leaning back and got his hair caught next to the heating element of this old heater... Smell of burning hair, failure, and card gamer stank... I asked the store owner for his spray mask before I went and grabbed terrain...
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Post by: Ironwill13791
Frankenberry wrote:I'm fairly easy-going when it comes to asshats permeating my LGS, if only because the 40k crowd is sparse from time to time. But generally everyone acts respectfully and knows how to do laundry and utilize soap and water.
Although, my LGS plays host to a wide variety of gamers, which tends to be hectic, but cool mostly. For a while there was a conflict with 40k/Fantasy/Warmahordes folks and the Yu-gi-oh guys. Usually the tabletop guys would be adults, guys who I'd known most of my child and young adult life, and the random newcomers, but by and large, a cool lot. The Yu-gi-oh players on the otherhand? Not so much.
The smell was pretty impressive too. Given that the room we played in was no very well ventilated and on the small side, it got pretty disgusting. The range of players was certainly different and in some cases, creepy. But it's a card game so...whatever. The attitudes, man, all of these guys were some varying degree of asshat. It was shocking really, watching some ten-year old snot tell a friend of mine to take his "Gay little toys and GTFO.". I'll never forget that.
So yeah, card players. They've ruined two separate venues I've played at, using the same tactics every time. Second most annoying on my list would probably be a WAAC player(s). I get wanting to win, everyone wants to win, but that crap just takes it to a level that can't be understood.
I understand this well. Once a group of my friends and I went in on a sunday to our FLGS when yu-gi-oh was playing, and played some 40k. We have designated tables in the back for 40k and the are supposed to be used only for that. As we play, the card crowd swelled until all their tables were full and they sat there glaring at us for using the 40k tables. Then when the dude (teen) in charge came in we had to listen to him go on and on bragging to his card friends about how he is in charge and how he owned that place, little did he know I am in charge of the 40k. Yeah, a room filled with a bunch of asshats and their flocks of sheep. we had multiple problems with them.
Not to mention my best friend and I letting slip we play yu-gi-oh. We had a kid up are asses for games for weeks. I'm playing 40k and he is asking nonstop for a match (yugioh) and he's complaining about how long 40k takes because I said "after my game, maybe.". Next week, my friend and I are playing naruto ccg and he is up our ass again wanting to play one of us. He pissed me off when he says (about naruto ccg) "This game sucks. It takes way too long. You should stop and play a game of yugioh with me." I felt like going "  you.". Since then I haven't wanted to play card games with anyone other than my friends; too much aggravation.
End rant.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And don't let me forget the magic players that say that they feel bad for curbstomping new players at a tournament. Then in the next sentence laugh about how weak their decks, and most powerful cards, were. To then go on and mention how rare and expensive their deck is. Putting down...a new player!...and ego-boosting in the same sentence; I couldn't believe it.
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Post by: Eilif
I share the annoyance that many people feel against players of certain CCG's that are popular with the younger set. However, it is important to remember that in many cases, those little munchkin-ankle-biters are the reason that you even have a FLGS.
There are a few rarefied stores that can sustain themselves all or mostly on miniature wargames, but ask most FLGS owners and they will usually tell you that they make as much or more money on CCG's than Wargames.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Eilif wrote:I share the annoyance that many people feel against players of certain CCG's that are popular with the younger set. However, it is important to remember that in many cases, those little munchkin-ankle-biters are the reason that you even have a FLGS.
There are a few rarefied stores that can sustain themselves all or mostly on miniature wargames, but ask most FLGS owners and they will usually tell you that they make as much or more money on CCG's than Wargames.
Oh we know, the problem is that at my FLGS, they only tend to make up the majority of purchases within the few weeks of a MtG release. Buying large amounts of cards during a prelease, and on release night. Other than that, they rarely buy stuff... I played ringer one night when I was just getting Malifaux going (no one had shown up), they were 1 short of a tournament because they had five people not want to play in the tournament for some reason unrelated to the cash needed to pony up for the tournament...
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Post by: JWhex
Swan-of-War wrote:Strangers who come up and tell you how much they hate the game you're playing - like you're supposed to care.
Yes! Dont they know that is the purpose of forums.
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Post by: Ironwill13791
Eilif wrote:I share the annoyance that many people feel against players of certain CCG's that are popular with the younger set. However, it is important to remember that in many cases, those little munchkin-ankle-biters are the reason that you even have a FLGS.
There are a few rarefied stores that can sustain themselves all or mostly on miniature wargames, but ask most FLGS owners and they will usually tell you that they make as much or more money on CCG's than Wargames.
I know MtG players buy a lot, but at my FLGS we don't have to deal with those players. The yugioh and pokemon players barely buy enough to keep the store from shutting them down, and for the most part don't run tournaments to help support the store. When those games players finally started to buy more it was when the #s dwindled and only diehards were left. But I am still skeptical of both games.
The store pretty much told me that the miniature crowd and MtG was where they made the money for games. And miniatures were there 1st. Automatically Appended Next Post: And I don't hate any of the games, just the players in them that give the games bad reps (which is universal for all games).
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Post by: doc1234
Gonna +1 the CCG crowed. Went to the club 2 weeks ago, and was strangely packed (The room we use is a large function room above a conservative club, so plenty of room normally) with wargamers, mostly fantasy and warmahordes. And by packed I mean packed, i was lucky to get a small table going for a mini DW game in the corner, and if the historical games had come they wouldn't have gotten in, let alone gotten a table.
The CCG donkeycaves though? On the stage with 3 large tables (coming to around 8x4 feet minimum)...for about 6 of them. They were just sprawled on the tables and were barely playing that I could tell, just socializing. I mean the guy who organizes everything there doesn't seem the confrontational sort, but still.
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Post by: OIIIIIIO
Humans ... I seriously dislike most humans. Kids, adults, teens, elderly, cripples, Mensa members ... I dislike almost everyone I meet on a day to day basis. The vast majority of them are self-centered, and self-serving .... Papa Nurgle forbid that they do something for someone else without some sort of compensation.
I don't want to treat little 8 year old Johnny like a short adult and try and convince him that he should be a little more calm in the store ... I want to punt kick him 60 yards for being a heathen. Teenagers .... is it bad to want to use my CQC training on them and twist them up like a pretzel when they respond to everything with a not well thought out smart remark? I have been a smartass all my life, but I am GOOD at it, as well as knowing when to STFU when dealing with someone is my elder.
Sorry ... rant over.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
I dont like CCG crowd much either, they are given free reign in my FLGS to play when they wish. I remember one MTG guy taking from my dice bag for counters, didnt even ask me before, but while.
I love CCG, but the randomness for me kills me, i want to know what im getting.
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Post by: Desubot
Dice chuckers, people that like to throw there dice in such a way that 50% land off the table or hit models (usually mine)
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Post by: hotsauceman1
When my dice do hit by accident i always say sorry or if i know the guy
"Um, that is a str 10 auto hit the ignores all saves"
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Post by: wolfmerc
I Have a local group of 40k gamers i play with, one being my brother (ace101 on dakka), he isn't too bad about rule Nazi-ing, but it gets in the way of fun-ness sometimes. He fervently plays the game by the rules while I argue rules by logic : why take off the guys in the front when they weren't hit by the template? *DOES NOT COMPUTE. That is tolerable, but i have a friend in particular, Great guy, but when it comes to forty k... just ugh. He gives tau a bad name. he is a WAAC player and constantly questions rules I know by heart when he does not know them himself. On Good days, fun to play, but on bad days not so much. He once delayed a game a good thirty minutes just by arguing a rule, that is either worded badly, or confusing. What is even more annoying is that he plays a super competitive tau army, talk about suit spam. if you are going into a game, BETTER BRING ENOUGH COVER. aagh. that feels much better.
/rant
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Post by: Welsh_Furey
hotsauceman1 wrote:When my dice do hit by accident i always say sorry or if i know the guy
"Um, that is a str 10 auto hit the ignores all saves"
Nope that was a lasgun focused by a termi eye lense to lascannon power lol
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Post by: Breotan
Last Saturday, there was this kid at the Bunker who looked (and pretty much smelled) like Ned Stark's dirty, grimy tomboy daughter from Game of Thrones. What was worse is that when I backed away, the smell seemed to chase me for a moment and that's when it really stunk.
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Post by: skyfi
Breotan wrote:Last Saturday, there was this kid at the Bunker who looked (and pretty much smelled) like Ned Stark's dirty, grimy tomboy daughter from Game of Thrones. What was worse is that when I backed away, the smell seemed to chase me for a moment and that's when it really stunk.
the ever dreaded stalking stench..
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Post by: Frankenberry
Breotan wrote:Last Saturday, there was this kid at the Bunker who looked (and pretty much smelled) like Ned Stark's dirty, grimy tomboy daughter from Game of Thrones. What was worse is that when I backed away, the smell seemed to chase me for a moment and that's when it really stunk.
It's when you backed up, the eddy of air you created pulled the stench towards you. I've found the easiest way to combat the stench is to bring in a can of Febreeze and spray it whenever I'm offended, get's the point across.
As for the M:tG guys, they fall under my WAAC dislike. I tried to start playing a few years back at the behest of my wargaming buddies (they played in their youth and freaked out when i'd told them I'd never played). Ended up in a small friendly game at the same FLGS we played 40k/Warmachine at, what a mistake. I didn't win one game and at least twice I was told that my deck sucked and I should try a different game. No offers of "Hey man, what I would do with your deck..." or friendly banter afterwards, I was treated like a leper. So thus ended my brief foray into CCGs, which was a shame too given that I was really getting into the strategy of deck building, but meh.
Had a guy who ran with our Warmachine group when it first started, one of the local Press Gangers. It was two guys who ran the intro games, brothers, and the WAAC one was ok at first, didn't mind answering questions, taking three hours for a game (etc.). But after about a month, he started with the "Man, that was stupid." or "Wow, you're taking that 'caster, did you even read the book?" and various other crap. Eventually it took him calling my Warmachine doubles partner an idiot (misread some rule, I've quite forgotten now), and the subsequent threats of bodily harm to get this guy to STFU. I never got that, I still don't.
Yet another time, back when Heroclix were popular during their first release (I know, I know, I'm sorry 40k gods) a few of us got into it pretty heavily. One month, the FLGS we played at announced a mini-tourny, something we'd been talking about starting ourselves for awhile. So, we all jumped in, met some new guys who'd been playing at the comic-book shop nearby, and had a blast over about a week of play. I ended up in the top four, and had earned a first round-buy in for having been there since the beginning. The last day of the tournament, I backed out because none of my friends were playing (didn't feel right, meh). But this loud, fat, and stupidly obnoxious guy shows up talking about how he's going to beat everyone's ass. To his credit he did beat everyone, using one character and gratuitous amounts of whining and raging about unfair powers (yadda yadda yadda). The tournament organizer is frustrated at this point, but he tells the guy that he doesn't have the wins to complete the tournament, whereas I had in addition to my first round buy-in. The guy EXPLODES, throws his figures in the trash calls everyone  and so on and storms out.
I'm with OIIIIIIO, people in general just suck.
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Post by: Swan-of-War
Breotan wrote:Last Saturday, there was this kid at the Bunker who looked (and pretty much smelled) like Ned Stark's dirty, grimy tomboy daughter from Game of Thrones. What was worse is that when I backed away, the smell seemed to chase me for a moment and that's when it really stunk.
I guess that's why the Bunker has all those boxes of baking soda parked under the tables.
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Post by: nectarprime
Bronies.
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Post by: lucasbuffalo
The "extra incher": He who bends any measurement/movement/shooting to lengths that make impossible shots possible and then turns red/flustered when you point out it's impossible for him to have covered as much ground as he did.
The "adviser": I do play MTG, I actually got into Warhammer because I liked the people in my FLGS who played it more than the MTG crowd as a whole. One rule from MTG that I WISH people would enforce in 40k is the "if you give gameplay advice during a game, you get DQed/asked to leave." Now, don't get me wrong; I'm fine with, and encourage people to remind others when they forget a rule/do it wrong (if they're actually right), However, the guys who go "dude, don't shoot them, shoot at that squad" etc. is just frustrating. A 1vs1 tournament isn't and shouldn't be a team sport :/
/Rantsorwhatever2013
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Post by: Mad4Minis
Trondheim wrote:Non norwegian players and such, learn Norwegian or cease to frequent the places I game, that and oafs who dl not bath.
Yet if an American says the same thing about people speaking English (in America) we get chastised...
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Post by: hotsauceman1
People in suits, They make me uncomfortable and feel like a child.
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Post by: OIIIIIIO
Show me where the bad man touched you ...
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Post by: Stoupe
The dude watching a game, standing on the side of the table as if he's one of the generals. Dude, move out the way! I need to move my models.
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Post by: conker249
We made a solution to the dice throwing, Every model you hit with a dice that isnt yours, makes you lose one guy in one of YOUR units. After that was house ruled, people were a lot more accurate and conservative about their rolls. mistakes happen, but this was more for the players that do it a few to many times a game.
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Post by: wowsmash
Some random guy walking up and proceeding to rummage through my model case without asking while I'm in the middle of a game. So now I'm trying to concentrate on my game and making sure he's not stealing something.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
The guy that interpreted's the rules always in his favor, withholds info, makes up rules, etcetera!
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Post by: angelshade00
I can accept anything game-related on the table. Books, dice, roster sheets, counters, you name it. Anything else however, get OFF! Water bottles, coffee mugs, cellphones, everything!
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Post by: WarlordRob117
List tailors...
For example: getting ready for a tourny. Play a couple prep games. One person with the same list the entire couple of weeks saying, "Yup I couldnt imagine playing anything else, this is the worlds best list...".
Shows up on game day with a list tooled out to beat you army and no one elses...
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Post by: Maxim C. Gatling
To add to that, our local game store (actually, I'd call it a comic book store) has 2 annoying kids who insist on loudly chattering in a high-pitched girlie voice. One of them, I'm told, is his actual voice but it's still annoying.
I also hate when guys bring small children who insist on jamming sharp objects into your scenery pieces. That really makes me want to club some baby seals.
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Post by: Ironwill13791
The baby bringers.
Like this last week, a guy shows up with his wife/gf, who brings the 1 yr old. At one point the baby was screaming for 10-15 minutes. The mothers solution was to give it dice to throw around (with the last one almost hitting some of my models). Then it wanders in front of someone carrying down all of their cases (so they couldn't see it) and the mother snatches it in a pissy mood at the person who just walked in. Finally when the kid is finally calming down, she leaves with it.
Everyone had a headache at the end of the day that day. Let her watch the kid at home, we don't have to deal with that  .
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Post by: BlapBlapBlap
Ironwill13791 wrote:The baby bringers.
Like this last week, a guy shows up with his wife/gf, who brings the 1 yr old. At one point the baby was screaming for 10-15 minutes. The mothers solution was to give it dice to throw around (with the last one almost hitting some of my models). Then it wanders in front of someone carrying down all of their cases (so they couldn't see it) and the mother snatches it in a pissy mood at the person who just walked in. Finally when the kid is finally calming down, she leaves with it.
Everyone had a headache at the end of the day that day. Let her watch the kid at home, we don't have to deal with that  .
That does seem incredibly annoying. She doesn't seem to understand that letting the child run around is very much a privilege, not a right; if it became a real problem, I'd ask for the manager to have a friendly chat with the guy and ask whether he could keep his partner in a more child-friendly environment.
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Post by: Ironwill13791
BlapBlapBlap wrote: Ironwill13791 wrote:The baby bringers.
Like this last week, a guy shows up with his wife/gf, who brings the 1 yr old. At one point the baby was screaming for 10-15 minutes. The mothers solution was to give it dice to throw around (with the last one almost hitting some of my models). Then it wanders in front of someone carrying down all of their cases (so they couldn't see it) and the mother snatches it in a pissy mood at the person who just walked in. Finally when the kid is finally calming down, she leaves with it.
Everyone had a headache at the end of the day that day. Let her watch the kid at home, we don't have to deal with that  .
That does seem incredibly annoying. She doesn't seem to understand that letting the child run around is very much a privilege, not a right; if it became a real problem, I'd ask for the manager to have a friendly chat with the guy and ask whether he could keep his partner in a more child-friendly environment.
Yeah. This week-end I will be having a talk with the manager about something to be done about it. As the TO I feel a responsibility to protect the interests of my players and store, and the future of the club.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
After so many years, I have become less and less tolerant of having the patience to paint all the generic troopers in an army (which sucks, as I only field painted models). I love characters and unique units, but the umpteenthth Space Marine or that 10th Eldar Guardian/Dire Avenger is a real bear to fight through, when you know they get taken off the table the fastest.
I just get tired of seeing the same detail pass under my brush on every model.
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Post by: Rysaer
Most of these have been covered but I do love a wee rant, so behold in no actual order.
1. 'Spectator Sport' - When your table becomes crowded or surrounded by lots of people watching. I don't mind a few friends but when it becomes hard to move around/play I get irratible quickly.
2. 'The Know It All' - Kind of explains itself, that guy who sits and watches your game and tells you everything you are doing wrong or how he would have done better etc.
3 'The Art Critic' - The one who spends his time at your table pointing out all your modelling/painting mistakes, worst part is most of these people haven't painted their own models.
4. 'The Referee' - That guy who sits at your table and starts quoting every rule and every little thing thats going on, again even worse when its someone who barely knows all the rules themselves.
5. 'The Handyman' - That guy who starts picking up your models/terrain without actually asking and generally ends up breaking it or covering it in whatever gunk/cheetos is on his fingers.
6. 'Snake Eyes' - That guy who starts picking up your dice or dice out of the dice box while you are playing. I know some of these people think they are helping but I'd like to think that me and my opponent are capable of picking up and understanding our dice.
7. Pink Glitter Dice - One of my friends is insistent on using a set of chessex dice which are pink and glittery with white indents. In any light these dice are pretty much unreadable, yet he insists on using them and only them.
I could think up a lot more but thats enough of a rant for now
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Post by: Frankenberry
Had a group of snots appear at my first FoW game today. Little bastards succeeded in breaking the barrels off of both my opponents King Tigers. They commented on how crappy the construction was, stating that their figures just bend.
Wait around for their parents to show, told them about the d-baggery and asked for them to replace the models. One set of parents got indignant and the dad made a move to be a tough guy, which was cute. The other set apologized profusely and bought the two new kits, plus some random infantry as more of a 'sorry'.
Some people's kids, I swear.
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Post by: Ironwill13791
Frankenberry wrote:Had a group of snots appear at my first FoW game today. Little bastards succeeded in breaking the barrels off of both my opponents King Tigers. They commented on how crappy the construction was, stating that their figures just bend.
Wait around for their parents to show, told them about the d-baggery and asked for them to replace the models. One set of parents got indignant and the dad made a move to be a tough guy, which was cute. The other set apologized profusely and bought the two new kits, plus some random infantry as more of a 'sorry'.
Some people's kids, I swear.
I give a hat's off to the parents who compensated him (hoping the kid got punished later). Of course the indignant ones are what I think is wrong with the world; they just let their kids do what they want and make moves, towards people affected by the brats, like they are the victims. Your kid isn't an angel; it is a  rat and you have to deal with it.
/rant
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Post by: Stoupe
Had a bad one today.
'The ball grabber' - while playing this dude randomly grabs and fixes his balls. The worst is if he doesn't try to hide it. I've had one do it while looking me in the eyes finishing a sentence. I get your big. I'm big myself. It gets sweaty down there from time to time. Atleast try to hide it!
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Post by: Itaro
The spectator that stands right next to the players, crowding the table instead of standing to the side or out of the way of the people playing the game.
And then there's the cheapass that photocopies the rulebook/codex because he's too cheap to buy his own. What makes him so special that he doesn't have to pay for the game like everyone else does? The same douche also has some of the worst modeled/painted counts-as armies that are basically ebay rejects.
/rant
j-
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Post by: Fezman
happygolucky wrote:I don't have really too much peeves in real life, I get more peeves when on the internet and people get new releases for their army then complain about how it has been all "ultranerfed" and how the army is rubbish now when the new releases have been out for less than 24 hours, I mean c'mon talking about not giving it a chance... I mean I went on to the General 40k discussion here to see what the new Tau were like, obviously silly me forgot that people like to see instantly a safe "autowin" with spammable units and all I see are a few people (note: I did not say all people just a few) crying that their rail guns are S8 and how they are useless now... S8? USELESS? I play CSM and Orks... S8 is amazing and you also have AP1 and (from what I have heard) TWIN-LINKED? I use a Forgefiend regularly as well as Deffkoptas and S8 takes down MC and majority of vehicles, also you get extra shooting buffs from other units, etc... HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN? then I guess after a month people will be saying that Tau rock the shores, which leaves me to another peeve... Hypocrisy, I mean it keeps happening when a new book is released, because from what I see a few people are not seeing "draigowing-cron-air-of-awesomeness-autowin" and cry every time they see balanced books (which to me is great I love the way they have balanced everything, one thing that the Games Developers in GW got right) then after a month they think its a decent dex... but still not Draigowing 5th ed... Newsflash: the codexes are not going to have an "instawin" button anymore and you should be grateful that we will be seeing more variety in lists now instead of the same mirrored lists like in 5th ed.
*Deep breaths*
/Rant over
I've got to agree with this. On the same day the Tau book was released you'd have thought the sky was falling. I would much rather put more thought into a list than simply letting the Internet tell me what the auto-take units and wargear are. I think some people just find it more enjoyable to complain.
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Post by: Beard
On the day of release, the people who go online and ask about a whole new codex, if its any good, what to and what not to take etc. on the day of release for goodness sake! Give people a chance to play the codex a few times, against different armies, kinda difficult to do so on the day of release
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Post by: Ironwill13791
They just want to learn everything about the codex, on someone else's dime, before they decide to buy it. And people overreact because they want the instawin button; they don't like to think. We can all thank the GK and 'crons for this.
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Post by: Ugavine
Gamers that are rude and abusive about games they say they don't play but can't stop talking about.
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Post by: Marine_With_Heart
People that mock your army of choice. I played a guy a while back (when I was like 15 I believe) who mocked my chapter of space marines, the Ultramarines. When I had ventured in the wide world of models and other wargaming hobbies 3 years or so before hand, I started collecting and painting the models to try and make them look the GW models on the back (They were so cool and shiny and blue!). This just happened to be the Ultramarines and I honestly have no regrets, I love them and they were my first taste of the wargaming world.
I guess the most annoying part is the guy I was playing at the time was one of those large sweaty gamers in their mid 20's who probably should have laid off the fried chicken he took to eating midgame... using an army that was nearly unpainted or painted in his unique "black with red trimmings" chapter.
I guess gamers who enjoy or look for easy wins also annoy me. In that same day of meeting this Mr KFC eater, after that battle (having only managed to barely get a draw in my first actual game of 40k) his mate comes over, sees my army, and then the two of them get this little gleam in their eyes and suddenly they both want to play me at the same time with their Space Marines and Tyranids against my UM... It may have just been my gut feeling but it seemed like they both wanted to have fun beating a kid and for some reason gained some joy in the idea of an easy win since i was new to playing (hadnt had anyone in my town or area who played and so i traveled with a friend to visit a gaming club a couple of hours away).
TL;DR - Dont like smelly, obnoxious gamers, bad experiences with them. Also dont like gamers who look for easy wins on younger players who are new to their hobby of choice.
Edit: Also,  Rant+whateverissupposedtogoontheendherewhenyourant/
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Post by: Saldiven
Here's an annoyance of mine, and I admit it's petty, but here it goes...
In my local area, there has become an incredibly common occurance of otherwise intelligent WHFB players using the word "chafe" when referring to "chaff."
"Chaff" is the detritus associated with winnowing grain; it's the husks, leaves, and stems that we don't eat that are essentially waste that needs to be separated from the grain we want to eat. In WHFB, it generally refers to small units that are used to delay, distract, and divert the opponent. The word is pronounced such that it rhymes with "laugh."
"Chafe" is the term for rubbing something, usually to the point of making it sore or raw. It is prounced such that it rhymes with "safe."
It makes me give an internal eye roll when I hear a college educated, gainfully employed, experienced gamer say, "I would have done better, but I spent too much time focusing on my opponent's chafe."
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Post by: Auxellion
Opponent's never painting their armies after months of playing with the same black metal chipped army
I jumped into Warmahordes, a handful of SMALL fully painted armies out of 30~ players
conker249 wrote:Yeah I should have thrown in an end rant. Or do it differently. Carry on.
Bronies is the other
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Post by: Frankenberry
Saldiven wrote:Here's an annoyance of mine, and I admit it's petty, but here it goes...
In my local area, there has become an incredibly common occurance of otherwise intelligent WHFB players using the word "chafe" when referring to "chaff."
"Chaff" is the detritus associated with winnowing grain; it's the husks, leaves, and stems that we don't eat that are essentially waste that needs to be separated from the grain we want to eat. In WHFB, it generally refers to small units that are used to delay, distract, and divert the opponent. The word is pronounced such that it rhymes with "laugh."
"Chafe" is the term for rubbing something, usually to the point of making it sore or raw. It is prounced such that it rhymes with "safe."
It makes me give an internal eye roll when I hear a college educated, gainfully employed, experienced gamer say, "I would have done better, but I spent too much time focusing on my opponent's chafe."
Maybe that player was indeed paying too much attention to the 'chafe'
The guys who criticize the army choices you've made and/or the paint jobs on said army really get to me. More so than TFG's or WAAC's, which is weird. The after battle chit-chat is something that I enjoy immensely, so any advice or critiques on tactics then are fine by me. It's during the fight that the opponent or some onlooker decides to comment on how I'm playing that really frosts my ass. And the expert painters telling you that your scheme is wrong or poorly done, jesus christ, I can't keep calm when this douchecanoes show up.
"Wow, those Guard suck, you didn't even paint their hands a flesh tone."
"They're wearing gloves."
"Guard don't wear gloves, way to be lazy."
/enrage
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