So, What is the ONE model that you hate to put together, paint or just look at because you loath it.
For me it is a Tie between the Rhino Chassis or the Crisis suit.
The rhino is just so bland to build, it is a box, A metal box.
The Crisis suit, I have had to build so many of those im just tired of looking at them.

Metal SAG mek was a terrible model to put together.

Ork bikers are a close second as the riders never fit on the bikes correctly.

Ork trukk, SAG, metal kans.

Going back a bit, but the Guard Heavy Weapon teams for Autocannons and Heavy Bolters (yes, the metal ones). I think I must've built maybe 24 of them, all told, and I doubt if I put together any of them the same way as the previous one.

They look cool, but I hated that kit.

Old metal Wraithlords. Just no...

Metal Thunderfire Cannon. Worst model ever...

The old pewter Slann Mage Priests and/or Hellcannons.

The former tried to balance a weighty chunk of pewter on a flimsy flight stand, and the latter... the less about that one the better, really.

Necron Warriors, after assembling 60....i never wanna put a single one together EVER again -_-

Several, basic skeleton troopers for Tomb Kings, Terradon Riders, and dear god the metal orc and goblins spider...

It's really any Infinity model in high heels. I tend to remove the chunk of metal between the legs that goes in the slottabases, and a model in battleheels doesn't make the attachment easy.

Heirophant.

So. Many. Tiny. fething. Spikes. Legs. Won't. Support. Body. Weight.

Graaaaah.

My first Rhino and Baal builds were both done in the same day. It was a humbling experience for a first time modeler. Those fething tracks were just...ugh. Looking forward to my first Storm Raven build. It will probably one up the Rhino chassis builds a bit. I see blood and glued skin.

Drop pods and Valkyries. So many little bits and complex pieces that if you don't assemble it JUST RIGHT, it comes out wonky.

The old Metal Bloodthirster drove me insane back in 3rd ed (before I knew of things like 'pinning').

Looking to the future I also have an unbuilt original land raider crusader with the metal parts that mocks me from inside its box.

Eleriel & Alaniel by Raging Heroes....

Look great once positioned properly.... such a pain in the tukis to get there though... and you need to paint some of the parts before assembly....

But so nice once done....

The Auld Grump

The FW storm eagle. I got halfway through it then started using it for other kitbashes.

Skorne Arcuarii. Never have I sworn so consistently or profusely. And the design is (or was, as I'd like to think the plastic ones are better, now) deeply stupid to start with.

R.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

The rhino is just so bland to build, it is a box, A metal box.

The rhino is a battle taxi. It's only purpose is to get the troops from A-B quicker than they could on foot. It doesn't have to be pretty and tbh, most contemporary APC/IFVs are rather unattractive metal boxes. It also is an ancient template - designed to be a rugged surface transport for hardy colonial types. These things tend to favour practicality over looks as a result.

METAL Thunderfire Cannon. Went into the smelting pot. The initial casting run was so renowned for miscasts that the local store didn't even try to help gamers assemble them. They just took them back and issued credits.

The Sherman Firefly's from the Open Fire! boxed set. Small, fiddly and slightly bent.... The StuGs went together very well though...

tiberius183 wrote:
Drop pods and Valkyries. So many little bits and complex pieces that if you don't assemble it JUST RIGHT, it comes out wonky.

These x1000

Old metal Scraplauncher.... I put together one, It fell apart even with using the GS + Superglue trick. Other has stayed in the box. Gonna kitbash em to make Ogre chariots.

Old metal Warwalkers.

Spindly, weird weight distribution and they flat out refuse to accept glue onto them. Somehow they repel it.

Chaging the guns to plastic helped me in the end - removed the weight from the arm/ball joint affair they've got. Although this may change. I've still got a storm eagle to do.

Swooping hawks.

Finish them, take them out for a game wings are off....
Put them together again play a game, wings are off............
Try to pin them, drill bit slips into thumb...
Repeat one more round and I just leave the wings off then leave them in a drawer.

Then they get Finecasted and while I like the look of the models, I won't get them as I think the way they connect to the base is just too fragile.

Vampire Counts' Black Coach. They were my first ever fully painted army, finished them in a single week's holiday then came to the black coach; that thing just doesn't hold together and still languishes, reminding me of failure. The old metal azazel daemon prince, thing just defies physics and physics wins.

Also old metal GK termi pauldron shields would never ever stay on despite hundreds of attempts, the little bump for their attachment just ended up getting filed off.

The original Imperial Dreadnaughts. The cup connections on the shoulders and legs were on the face of it fine, in reality they were a nightmare to keep glued on, especially when the armed were stick on. Horrid horrid balls of heavy metal!

Also almost any FoW model, multiple issues across the range with poor casts, fiddley little bits, strange connections and the whole metal/resin interface on most kits. I love the models when theyre together it's just getting them there I hate!

Gargoyles and Hormagaunts...

Any model that needs the arms glued to the body and the gun at the same time just gets on my tits...

 jonolikespie wrote:
The FW storm eagle. I got halfway through it then started using it for other kitbashes.

This.

Though I persevered through the use of many, many zip strips and dunking the whole thing in a sink of hot water to make it bend into place. FW may make crappy resin for 40k fanbois. But damn, it looks pretty.

On of the worst models I've had the displeasure of putting together recently was the Legion of Everblight Succubus. Tiny contact point on the base and every. Single. Limb. Is separate.

metal krootoxes and 3ed metal gargoyles. Those models were spawned from an evil so wicked it makes greater daemons look like they frolic with smurfs. They must have been cut in half by a butter knife then had the master cast in jello the way the halves failed to match up.

That umbrella is metal. A thick chunk of metal.

I can't stand the DE Raider / Ravager chassis. I always struggled to get the "tip" to join, leaving this nice big gap at the front of something that's supposed to be aerodynamic. It put off buying more.

That and those stupid spindly little flag poles & sails that snap off as soon as you look at them...

For me, it was the ancient Epic Capitol Imperialis. I bought it from my local GW years ago (in 1992!), impressed by the model and the rules. However, my excitement turned to ash - I had an utter nightmare building this model.

For those who have worked with it, you'll know that the casting of the model is lopsided and a pain to put together and needs huge amounts of putty to fill in the gaps as well as the fact that it was just a massive lump of lead. Take this along with my, at the time, relative inexperience and you have a recipe for frustration. The side panels didn't sit on the tracks quite right, the roof didn't line up, the front panel looked off, the rear panel just wouldn't sit without looking wonky. Eventually I lost it and took a hammer to the front panel (partly out of frustration and partly to try to hammer off the huge amount of superglue and milliput on it that just wouldn't budge when I tried to leaver it off with my knife). I swear, I used up half a tube of superglue on it before I gave up in disappointment!

I was young at the time and, even now, assembling the thing still gives me no end of trouble.

LRC with metal Hurricane Bolter sponsons. That was over 10 years ago and I still shudder to recall what a mess it was.

More recently, I bought 4 used Fiends of Slaanesh. Once they shipped, I discovered all but one had their fiddly little back legs pinned and glued backward on the model. Took about a week of alternatively soaking and prying to finally get them to come off.

Necron Warriors - just for the sheer, mind numbing repetativness of it.

Metal hurricane bolters from the old LR Crusader kit

FW Tomb Stalker - the legs....THE LEGS!!!!!

Ghost ark. It was a pain in the arse to assemble and because I wanted to use it for tournaments, I glued it. Oh, how "fun" it was to actually paint it afterwards. Oh, and it's an absolute nightmare to move around in a game. Skimmers shouldn't be that long ><

Any of the Skorne metal Titans. The torso & legs don't fit together too well and there is no good way to pin them.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, What is the ONE model that you hate to put together, paint or just look at because you loath it.
For me it is a Tie between the Rhino Chassis or the Crisis suit.
The rhino is just so bland to build, it is a box, A metal box.
The Crisis suit, I have had to build so many of those im just tired of looking at them.

Landspeeder. The freaking think looks like a shoe and is a @#$% to put together. It never fits.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
Ghost ark. It was a pain in the arse to assemble and because I wanted to use it for tournaments, I glued it. Oh, how "fun" it was to actually paint it afterwards. Oh, and it's an absolute nightmare to move around in a game. Skimmers shouldn't be that long ><

Oh god yeah, forgot about that one. I ended up basing mine on a flyer base using a small piece of 5mm clear plastic rod instead of the stupid skimmer "needle" they provide with it - much more secure.

 Bat Manuel wrote:
Any of the Skorne metal Titans. The torso & legs don't fit together too well and there is no good way to pin them.

Having put together many of them, best way is to put the legs together, and then roll green stuff around the inner edges and smoosh the torso on, and then mark up the green stuff to look like flesh.

LRC sponsons the metal ones. I modified the design by mounting the bolters direct to the ammo boxes and drilled into the boxes for the pivot point and attached the shield directly. Those ammo feeds were a mess to line up and just looked bad.

Thunderfire cannon was a big lump of metal with heavy pieces that had to be pinned. I made up a base for it all to sit on since I had no confidence it would hold together.

Reaver Titan. Both took more than a month for both.

UGH!

The heirophant is up there. Ended up just posing the damn thing in mid-jump (all the weight is resting on the pins) to avoid the leg bending issue.

Pretty much every GW tank. I have an absolute bear of a time trying to keep the things nice and square when I glue them together... I usually need to do some heavy weathering to cover up the blemishes (or just decide to not care.)

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Reaver Titan. Both took more than a month for both.

UGH!

Ah man I forgot about that one.

Trying to get the body sit on the legs was bad enough but the Chainfist arm wouldn't stick or the stupid shoulder pads.

I loved the model but it remains unused and unpainted to this day.

The metal Cryx Leviathan is the bane of my existence. I've been working on and off at it for months and still haven't figured it out. The only position where all the legs and arms fit on the model at the same time leads to the stance being wide enough to completely straddle the base. The legs are so spindly that there's no way only two of them can support the weight.

Drop Pods they're cool but I hate putting them together and painting.

Chaos Warhound titan. The legs are done but the upper body exterior/interior door parts were refusing to line up properly so I have a pair of titan legs that are well built and have given up on it for the past 5 years.

Terradons... The old metal ones.

I know, let's suspend a hunk of pewter on a flying base above the ground and as if the center of gravity wasn't high enough, let's glue a head, two big wings, two legs and a long tail into impossible small connection points on this skinny pteradactyl body.

I had almost 9 of them and they were almost always just bodies on flying bases... I tried metal rods but that didn't help so much except the metal rod wouldn't shear off the body.

Damn, sure are a lot of metal models mentioned here. Am I the only one who enjoys a good pinning session?

Anyways, on a complete 180 it has to be the metal hive tyrant, I put that thing together before I knew how to pin. My god that thing was top heavy.

You're going to laugh but I hated putting standard (non-clip) tactical marines together, they're annoying and boring to make.

The eldar fire prism, such a pretty model... but oh god....

V1ND4LOO wrote:
Damn, sure are a lot of metal models mentioned here. Am I the only one who enjoys a good pinning session?

Anyways, on a complete 180 it has to be the metal hive tyrant, I put that thing together before I knew how to pin. My god that thing was top heavy.

Finecast certainly has some faults, but holy god are finecast models easier to put together than metal models. Just simply lighter, easier to bend, easier to glue, and rarely "self-disassemble" like some old metal models.

Worst for me:
- Metal Dwarf Gyrocopter (Big hunk of metal on top of a small flight stand)
- Necron Triarch Stalker (It takes three hands to put the cab bit together in any sort of good looking way)
- Metal Necron Wraiths (Top heavy with a single small attachment point in the middle of the long spine)
- Necron Warriors (SOOOO many curse words said while trying to glue the gun arm to the body, left arm to body, and left arm to gun AT THE SAME TIME)


On the other side of the equation: Necron Doom/Nightscythes. Absolutely the easiest model to put together. Three parts to the top half, three parts to the bottom half. Slap them together, everything snaps into place. Put one more piece on the bottom and one more piece on the top, add some guns, and boom, you're done.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
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For me it is a Tie between the Rhino Chassis or the Crisis suit.
The rhino is just so bland to build, it is a box, A metal box.
...

old or new Rhino? The style is a much more 'chunky' and interesting shape.The old one was weird because the 'top' and 'bottom' hull pieces were identical piece... basically each was two sides of a rhombus, and attaching the other bits helped define 'up' and 'down' for the main hull: You attached appropriate front plates to add a driver's vision slits, extended front, etc., then added a ramp piece to the same slope (but reversed) on the back. Bottom got basic flat hatch covers, top got more interesting hatch covers and turret mounts.

The main hull had side pieces that didn't really 'lock' so it's possible to have the treads aligned improperly. One of mine is a bit off.

The new kit is much nicer, with a more interesting main hull that isn't tow identical angled pieces and significantly more detail.

For models I had issues with, the all-metal Carnifex did not make me happy.

Oh oh, the new Necron Immortal kit. On the box, they have nice smooth shoulderpads. Put the model together, and you'll find there is actually an obnoxious gap between the two halves. Unfilled, the models look pretty terrible. I don't mind greenstuffing when I have to, but on 20 infantry models...yeah, I hated it.

The last version of the LRBT was probably one of the worst kits I've ever put together. The treads...dear god the treads.

Had a crap of a time building Devastator's when i first started, I remember getting so much glue on a lascannon arm that I pulled off so much skin, it looked like he had a battle-damaged shoulder.

I can't decide which I hate more, metal models or finecast.

Behold me and dread...



Built 3, still have the scars...

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
The Sherman Firefly's from the Open Fire! boxed set. Small, fiddly and slightly bent.... The StuGs went together very well though...

I found the fireflies to be really easy; it was the regular Vs that you had to shave a little bit here and cut a little there for. The gaps on my Vs are too big for liquid green, but too slim to fill well with putty.

The Nyss Hunters Mercenary unit from WM/H. The archer models aren't so bad, the sword wielding ones are painful. The joints are very thin, and very small so I was afraid to use the Dremel Stylus to pin them. A lot of pin vice work later, my hands were sore, and I still wasn't happy with the models. Prior to that, it was probably the Angelius for my Legion Army, those wings sucked.

 derek wrote:
The Nyss Hunters Mercenary unit from WM/H. The archer models aren't so bad, the sword wielding ones are painful. The joints are very thin, and very small so I was afraid to use the Dremel Stylus to pin them. A lot of pin vice work later, my hands were sore, and I still wasn't happy with the models. Prior to that, it was probably the Angelius for my Legion Army, those wings sucked.

I've assembled four units of those Nyss Hunters so far. I've got a fifth one waiting to be built right now as well.

Update:

I forgot: Eldar Guardians!

How many parts per figure = 11 including base.

They are supposed to be cheap, so you need many of them.
It was painful.

Every single Fire Warrior arms.

god i hate these things.

Also repairing broken tau ankles.

 AduroT wrote:

 derek wrote:
The Nyss Hunters Mercenary unit from WM/H. The archer models aren't so bad, the sword wielding ones are painful. The joints are very thin, and very small so I was afraid to use the Dremel Stylus to pin them. A lot of pin vice work later, my hands were sore, and I still wasn't happy with the models. Prior to that, it was probably the Angelius for my Legion Army, those wings sucked.

I've assembled four units of those Nyss Hunters so far. I've got a fifth one waiting to be built right now as well.

You are far more dedicated than I am. I was done with one, even if I come back around to Mercenaries, it'll probably be a unit I buy pre-assembled in the future.

Malcador tank:



See those nice exposed tracks? Well, the light gray part is resin and molded onto the hull, while the dark gray is the plastic track links from the Chimera. Which have to be assembled one link at a time, with nothing to anchor them in place while you align the next one, and have to be absolutely perfectly aligned or they won't follow the curve of the hull properly. Which means test-fitting the entire plastic section of the tracks before gluing anything, or you will inevitably make a mistake. And if you don't get everything exactly right they won't connect properly to the resin ends and you'll have a very obvious gap.

Now, this sounds bad enough already, but because of FW's "quality control" the sides are inevitably slightly the wrong size so it's impossible to get everything exactly right. And FW doesn't give you any instructions on how to do it, you just get a resin hull and a sprue of track links.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
The old pewter Slann Mage Priests and/or Hellcannons.

The former tried to balance a weighty chunk of pewter on a flimsy flight stand, and the latter... the less about that one the better, really.

The first (I think) Slann priest was an absolute nightmare! For those that don't remember it was a huge solid chunk of White metal (frog on a throne) that was supposed to sit on the shoulders/arms of four Saurus warriors. Just to make life easier said Saurus didn't have a nice custom MC base to sit on but two standard cavalry bases with a random gap between them. Evenif you did manage to get the Saurus holding the Slann you ended up with misaligned bases which meant you couldn't rank them up inside a Saurus unit.

Oh the fun I had with that model at 10 years old!!

Space Marine landspeeder. I just hate this model, don't know why I bought two of them. One is partially assembled, then I realized all the work involved in painting it to a high quality standard and magnetizing and just said F it.

 G. Whitenbeard wrote:
[ -snip-
- Necron Warriors (SOOOO many curse words said while trying to glue the gun arm to the body, left arm to body, and left arm to gun AT THE SAME TIME).-snip-

*sniff* and me thinking I was the only one that had problema gluing the arms of the simple necron warrior and cursing those lucky SM players with their awesome weapon kits and 1 handed weapons

The Metal Gyrocopter...

If any of the parts fall off that thing ever again, I may launch it out the window.

On the plus side, it's a really nice model to look at... WHEN IT'S IN ONE PIECE.

I have to say that the metal Thunderfire cannon was a huge paint in the ass. I think it would not have been possible to assemble, period, without a dremel too.

This weekend I painted up the Necron Overlord (finecast) that I got for Christmas 2011, and it was the least pleasant GWS experience in several years. What awful craftsmanship on it, and how flimsy and insubstantial the model was. Just awful. Totally the opposite of the Night Scythe I did more or less at the same time, which was a pleasure to assemble.

Another vote for the metal SAG. Oh how I hate that model.

Pewter Warriors of Chaos Hell Cannon. Nuff said.

For some reason I always struggle getting space marine tanks to line up correctly. Hate making them.

Current, and therefore even more painful.

FW KoS, not only is it unarmoured, meaning there's no sneakily hiding joins in armour plates etc, and demands full effort green stuffing to hide the lines, but Every. Single. Spike. has to be glued on individually, and they're tiny. Also, aforementioned spikes can easily end up facing all over the shop if care isn't taken. Just taken me about 3 hours and I have about 5 done, of about 30 on one leg plus a other bunch on its boobie covering.

Le sigh.

Seriously?



Nagash, the old Lamasu, and the old Imperial War Wagon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbwPm-BgkvE

 Jonp wrote:
Another vote for the metal SAG. Oh how I hate that model.

Good call. I too have a metal SAG, giant pain.

 n0t_u wrote:
Swooping hawks.

Finish them, take them out for a game wings are off....
Put them together again play a game, wings are off............
Try to pin them, drill bit slips into thumb...
Repeat one more round and I just leave the wings off then leave them in a drawer.

Then they get Finecasted and while I like the look of the models, I won't get them as I think the way they connect to the base is just too fragile.

What would happen if you glued the finecast wings to the metal bodies?

I can't imagine doing the opposite.

The warmachine cryz iron lich overseer. It has a thin snakelike tail holding up its large upper body, and it has broken so many times while I was trying to paint it.

 Cave_Dweller wrote:
Space Marine landspeeder. I just hate this model, don't know why I bought two of them. One is partially assembled, then I realized all the work involved in painting it to a high quality standard and magnetizing and just said F it.

Now.. if you had owned some of the old metal landspeeders (especially the 1st edition one) you would be crying with joy at the ease of the new plastic ones

Even once assembled the inadequate flight stands, and the weight of the vehicle meant that those things spent their gaming lives skidding around boards everywhere like a 41st millennium lawn mower.

That and some of the old metal Fantasy dragons..

These days, some of the Infinity stuff is just ridiculously small to put together. managed to cut the hands off a Domaru thinking it was a bit of flash..

Oh man, I remember the 2nd edition Land Speeders. A friend got one, and spent a long time building and painting it. Glued it to the flight stand. Put it down on the table for its first game.

Crack.

Spent the rest of its life as a Land Crawler.

However, the amount of people claiming regular GW models makes me think not many have had the joy of putting together a vehicle or larger sized Forgeworld kit.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jonp wrote:
Another vote for the metal SAG. Oh how I hate that model.

Good call. I too have a metal SAG, giant pain.

Do you mean the newest one? 'Cause I just magnetized every point of articulation and it goes together just fine now.

Not really difficult but agonizing. So when it first came out I picked up spacemarine. Totally excited I rushed over to my friends house "Lets play!" Open the box. "How many pieces are there?" We didn't get to play for days! Lets just say basing 300+ 6mm spacemarines was a chore.

GW doesn't have a patch on the 1:72 Beaufighter kit that I built for my grandfather a few years back.

Amongsth other little nuggets of fun-ness, the joint where the wings attached to the fuselage was mismatched... the sockets were designed for a completely different shape and sized wing. And the cockpit interior was a full 5mm too wide to fit inside the plane... on a place with a cockpit that is only about 15mm wide to begin with.

My friends tell me that Kroot are a nightmare to build - something about the elbows.

PredaKhaine wrote:
Old metal Warwalkers.

I have a friend who once had a number of War Walkers. When all was said and done he looked over them and realised that he had put not a single one together in the same way. All of them were different (and wrong, we presumed).

 Peregrine wrote:
See those nice exposed tracks? Well, the light gray part is resin and molded onto the hull, while the dark gray is the plastic track links from the Chimera. Which have to be assembled one link at a time, with nothing to anchor them in place while you align the next one, and have to be absolutely perfectly aligned or they won't follow the curve of the hull properly. Which means test-fitting the entire plastic section of the tracks before gluing anything, or you will inevitably make a mistake. And if you don't get everything exactly right they won't connect properly to the resin ends and you'll have a very obvious gap.

Yeah but you brought that upon yourself. The moment I saw that kit and saw it used plastic tracks with a resin kit I knew it'd be hell, and stuck to the "my tracks are part of the sides" Macharius.

The FW Khorne Demon Prince. See all of those teeth and spikes sticking out of his armour? They are all single pieces of minute resin.

Needless to say, I didn't bother with them after the first few.

The old metal Bloodthirster haunted my youth. Strongest model in the club, and it always fell apart. I didn't know about pinning back then...

Now it's the plastic Hellbrute from Dark Vengeance. I do not know why, but I can't get it's left leg to fit no matter what I try!

All catachans:

For me it must be the Cryx Seether helljack kit. A lovely model when it is built but building it.....? To give you the general idea the torso is essentially one guge chunk of metal stuck via a slot that needs filling onto a set of tiny legs. in addidition to this the kit then boasts those huge claws attached to the main model via the shoulder joints that point straight down between vertical and near vertical. And then the spikes.... I am always reglueing these. untill i have finished painting it i cant varnish it and so it continues to chip.....

Also any of the Revell kits with tracks at a skill level of 4 or more. at 1/72 individual track links are a very bad idea, especially for german halftracks.

also the old imperial steamtank model deserves a mention here. It is in all essence a series of metal slabs that do not in any circumstances wish to be glued together. insanity ensues.

 Jonp wrote:
Another vote for the metal SAG. Oh how I hate that model.

Wow really, I just got mine of eBay and I had a blast putting it together.

For me would be regular ork boy. There fun but when you have to do 180. At one time it gets old about halfway through.

 Rainyday wrote:
The metal Cryx Leviathan is the bane of my existence. I've been working on and off at it for months and still haven't figured it out. The only position where all the legs and arms fit on the model at the same time leads to the stance being wide enough to completely straddle the base. The legs are so spindly that there's no way only two of them can support the weight.

Had this issue with the Harrower. Nevermind trying to keep him together in the foam. His arms are bent to hell.

Though that has nothing on the Ancients of Atalan Hero from the Deep Wars Kickstarter. Giant piece of metal, attaches to scenic base by his toe. ugh.

 JoshInJapan wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Jonp wrote:
Another vote for the metal SAG. Oh how I hate that model.

Good call. I too have a metal SAG, giant pain.

Do you mean the newest one? 'Cause I just magnetized every point of articulation and it goes together just fine now.

The newest one is Finecast, so presumably the one right before the finest one.

Not sure we mean the same thing, though - the gun on it is so heavy I'm dubious that a 1/8th magnet in both points would support it, I've magnetized hundreds of models. Not calling you a liar, simply explaining why I don't think we mean the same thing,

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Behold me and dread...



Built 3, still have the scars...

I'm too stubborn for my own good, I built a frame, pinned it, greenstuffed it, annnnnddddd still broken.

I have a burning hate for it to this day

Empire State Troops - The sole reason I don't play Empire.

Visually they are very nice models (and great for Mordheim btw), but it is next to impossible to get them to rank up as a unit if they are armed with Halberds or Spears.

As horrible as the Nyss Hunters or Steelhead Halberdiers for Warmachine were, once I'd got through a fraught hour of glue and green stuff, they stuck together well enough and didn't give me grief.

What did was the Stone Keeper. For reference, this guy: http://www.firestormgames.co.uk/hordes/circle-orboros/10184 Looks simple, right? The problem was his left hand. It was somehow nearly impossible to glue, just Would. Not. Stay. On, and would snap off at the slightest provocation.

In Anima Tactics, Romeo Exxet's sword had the same problem. Looked like a very simple and easy join but simply refused to stay connected, and would fly off at the tiniest touch.

The old metal/plastic hybrid Devastators were the bane of my existence. I cried with joy when the pure plastic ones came out.

The metal Balrog wasn't a lot of fun. Some of the older citadel miniatures, large things like dragons and the like were a poor fit, but the for a more recent release the Balrog was a shocking fit. The ringwaiths on fell beasts apparently aren't much better.

I could never work out how the old metal beast of nurgle went together, the body came in three pieces. The back two made the two halves of the body, but the front piece seemed far far too wide to fit onto this. Packed in a lot of milliput, never worked out how it was supposed to be assembled.

See the second image on this page in particular, they've also failed to make any sense of this.
http://store.wargamingtrader.com/item/n283ws

Another vote for the plastic deathmarks/immortals here (and Good Lord, would I know it; 31 immortals, 24 deathmarks later...): those shoulders (and the joints in the cables on the immortals, for that matter!) are an immense pain. It just takes so much work to get them all looking somewhat presentable - no fun!
Of course the dwarf gyrocopter deserves it's sculptor a special place in hell - that thing is probably the only metal or resin model which ever went past the 'yay, /me like challenge!' level for me.
I actually hard-soldered the rotor together and epoxied it unto the hull. about six or seven whole paperclips(!!!) went into assembling just the hull, and it's connected to it's base via a steel rod, which in the end I decided to just weld to a piece of 3mm thick steel plating I use as a base now. on the plus side, it's finally stable. downside: I'm so fed up with the bugger I haven't had the heart to paint it yet and probably never will - and I got it done a month or three before 8th came out and made it fething useless so yeah, no fun.

last special mention goes out to the Tor Gaming Relics Nuem Paenitentiam models:

Yes. Those chains, as well as the rest of the model, are made of metal. Do they have some fancy way to connect the parts together? Nooooo, of course not. just a (very shallow) indentation in the end of the arm to fit each individual chain into. I'm afraid of breathing at these fethers too hard, let alone game with them. Bloody shame too, they're quite nice up close, actually.

Firstly plastic hormagaunts,entirely because of that 1mm square "top of the foot" join at the base. I played Tyranids when it allowed you to built your gaunt species from scratch in the back of the codex, so i designed a super-gaunt I liked, assembled about 30 of them and the first time I used them, between being in my case and the game, fully half had broken ankles. Within a month they'd all broken at some point and I had to just have a section of paper clip running between the base and chest. It wasn't very pretty but it looked better than 30 bases with 30 unattached gaunts perched on them. It's a shame because I loved the sense of movement in those models, I think they look great.

Secondly a recent one, the metal wood elf stag rider. The Stag body comes in two halves which fit together terribly, even after filing for about an hour (because the pieces are pretty much solid metal, and, to be fair, because my file is crap) I still had to fill in gaps all the way around with green stuff and do some sculpting to cover up a horrible gap in its mane.

But wait... there's more! The prize for worst idea in model making history...

The Rider's right arm is a separate piece and carrier a spear, simple enough so far. But the shaft of the spear below the model's hand is in fact a separate piece ... with no ball and socket joint of any description, the join is just two uneven pieces of metal. Then when pinning it, even though i used a drill bit thinner than one you'd use for a paper clip, it took out part of the little finger because the recess of the fist didn't line up with the whole spear shaft and I'd rather have a 3 fingered hero than a hilariously wonky spear

Whoever decided that that right arm could not be altered in the slightest way to allow it to be cast in one piece should never be allowed near the production of models ever again. It was months ago now but thinking about it still makes me angry.

3 Ghost Arks.

Warmahordes models

Frigging Avatar of Menoth,

Metal Cyclops Savages,


GW models

Metal Zoanthrope,

Metal Sternguard,

Metal Broasides,

Finecast Crowe(metal one was much better)

Voidstalker Battleship from BFG. MASSIVE chunk of metal badly balanced on a flimsy plastic stick.

Wouldn't that apply to most of the BFG battleships

Not so much, most of the metal battleships were at least balanced between being long in the front and heavy in the back. The voidstalker is all back.

The old Metal Necron Waiths, would break if you so much as looked at them....

 Ouze wrote:

 JoshInJapan wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Jonp wrote:
Another vote for the metal SAG. Oh how I hate that model.

Good call. I too have a metal SAG, giant pain.

Do you mean the newest one? 'Cause I just magnetized every point of articulation and it goes together just fine now.

The newest one is Finecast, so presumably the one right before the finest one.

Not sure we mean the same thing, though - the gun on it is so heavy I'm dubious that a 1/8th magnet in both points would support it, I've magnetized hundreds of models. Not calling you a liar, simply explaining why I don't think we mean the same thing,

I literally magnetized every joint. Spinny bit to shoulder mount, one part of tube to shoulder mount, the other part of the tube to the thing the Mek holds, and then the hand to his wrist. Lots of magnets, but it holds together great.

 DiabolicAl wrote:
The old Metal Necron Waiths, would break if you so much as looked at them....

Weird, i never really had an issue with them. Admittedly half their weigth is now paperclip and superglue but still....


Re-thinking my own list...


Ghost Ark
Necron Warriors
metal Oblits (i dont think any of them ever went toether right out of the box)
metal Havocs
metal Raptors (top heavy much?!)
FW Tomb Stalker
metal LR Crusader Hurrican Bolter Sponsons

The old metal hurricane bolter for the Land Raider Crusader. Those things alone were enough to make me thankful for plastics and resins. I don't care how spindly, difficult, or obnoxious a plastic kit is, it will forever be easier than trying to super glue that thing together. Once you got it together, it was fairly solid, but in the build up, there was barely enough contact surface to hold itself together, and barely enough material to pin with.

Dark elf executioners, those sword tips...

Anyone else have problems with the old Dark Eldar raider? You know, the one with seperate left and right hull sections - and the hold for the flying stand directly between the two...

The bloody metal Chaos Daemon Prince. That thing was a nightmare to put together. And keep in mind I was 13 when I built it. I thought superglue would hold it together. Ha-fething-ha.

Worst thing is that the plastic model came out a week later!

Right, although I would say the metal one looked a lot better than the rather more empty-looking plastic demon prince!

 Grey Templar wrote:


Metal Zoanthrope,

Generally I've always preferred the nicer, heavier tactile feel of metal over plastic. The problem with that Zoanthrope was though that it would fall over on a 0.5% gradient!

Yeah, I prefer the metal one, and metal models in general, but for a 13 year old kid, it's bitch to put together! I didn't even have a drill then, that's how nooby I was!

I do like metal models better, but there are some poses the metal doesn't combine well with.

 Hedgehog wrote:
Anyone else have problems with the old Dark Eldar raider? You know, the one with seperate left and right hull sections - and the hold for the flying stand directly between the two...

Moreso than the Raider was the Ravager with the metal bitz on the side sponsons. I could never get those to stay on.

Still the metal landspeeder. What you really got in the box was a several lumps of ill-fitting, vaguely landspeeder-shaped chunks of metal from which you had to carve and forge actual landspeeder.

You youngn's with your complaints about finecast are amusing.

Ork Bikers. Oh gawd.

So much filing and cutting down... always falling apart and sticking to my hands

It was any large metal kit or a metal kit with many many many small parts for me, it was just cruel.

The ankle shattering of Hormagaunts is atrocious.
(Include the claws snapping off the base and entire swaths of them need to be re-based regularly)

Metal gargoyles were annoying to put together, especially if you don't want to glue them to their base.

Screaming Skull Catapults though. . .

For me, I think it's the old Broadside kits. I hate assembling those Crisis kits (let's make a model where the legs are attached one at a time!), and then there are the stupid railguns. For the life of me, I cannot get them to remain attached to the shoulders of the model. They're attached by half an inch of contact point between gun and shoulder, and the guns themselves are metal monstrosities that stick out a good couple of inches.

I swear, that one kit is the only reason I ever considered picking up the new plastic ones, just because I despise the old one and would like to have Broadside models that don't fall apart if you look at them funny.

Riquende wrote:


That umbrella is metal. A thick chunk of metal.

Wow but that also illustrates why Rackham was so awesome...

Mother
fething
Lich guard

Finecast Inquisitorial Crusader.
No gluing required.
Just flash.
And bubble on detail. (There is a lot of rope and chain on the model)
And mould lines.
And unnecessary vents that are positioned so that the flash that they want to be there runs down the line of some rivets, but is also wider than the rivets, so the rivets no longer exist.

Khador Old Witch's ScrapJack.
Giant full metal ostrich looking stomp robot balanced on a single spindly leg.

Hedgehog wrote:Anyone else have problems with the old Dark Eldar raider? You know, the one with seperate left and right hull sections - and the hold for the flying stand directly between the two...

I had an easier time with them then the new kit TBH. Kinda simple, but you could assemble and paint them fairly easy.

The models that have annoyed me over the years have been metal fire prism from back in the day. And the metal Lord of Change is a real pain too.

The Drop Pod. Dear god was that a PITA in the ass to get right.. it's the harnesses that really killed me. And then I had to cut some tubing out to make the top fit on the bottom. Now one of the doors won't stay up!

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Still the metal landspeeder. What you really got in the box was a several lumps of ill-fitting, vaguely landspeeder-shaped chunks of metal from which you had to carve and forge actual landspeeder.

You youngn's with your complaints about finecast are amusing.

Why did you have to enter that last sentence?

Now I feel compelled to write "but at least you didn't get any characters wearing mittens, or with bingo wings, or with parts of their faces slewn off"

My roomate struggle with the huge old FW fortress as the instructions that came with were just distanced pictures of the final product, none of the pieces fitted just right and there was no indications in the crappy instructions of what connected were. It weighed a metric ton and took up the entire dinning table for 2 weeks till he moved it.

finecast daemon princes of nurgle.

They just fall to pieces.

And why the hell GW skeletons need to fit together in the middle of the spine defeats me.

Worst model ever was the metal bretonian trebuchet, you needed hulk strength to bend it to shape but it was just spikey enough to cause injury then after it was all together it would fall apart if you gave it a sideways glance..... In 40k the old metal ork dredds, the legs would constantly break ended up just taking them off and mounted my dredds on wartrak platforms

Recently watched my dad put together his first squad of Kroot.

After the third bout of swearing he chucked the half-built model on his desk, grabbed some Victorian-aged native spearmen and told me he was using those instead.

Kroot are not hard to build.
But they are spiky, like really spiky.
Several of my kroot hav blood on them

Metal bloodthirster with several long pins (wings, arms, weapons, head, feet) and is currently being held together by my sheer willpower and luck.

Though what does following behind at a close second was the Mercenary Galleon. The amount of greenstuffing required to fill the gaps between the chassis and exhaust was...well exhaustive. That and the knee and foot on the right leg have to be touching each other in order for the model to keep its balanced for some reason.

This thing. Possibly the WORST moulding I have ever seen. the 2 Hull pieces never matched up. Yuck.

You are smoking crack if you answered anything besides thunderfire cannon

The metal Hive Tyrant (the one that was Finecasted and then made into a plastic kit). That. Kit. Is. Horrible.

2nd edition landspeeder, or any infinity model I've ever built.

metal Keeper of Secrets sob would stay together or metal hurican bolters for landraider

IG grenade launcher guys... Near impossible to drill out barrel, and gak fit between the left arm and launcher (both IG special weapons left arms)

 akira5665 wrote:


This thing. Possibly the WORST moulding I have ever seen. the 2 Hull pieces never matched up. Yuck.

Amen to that. I kind of wish they'd put it back out in plastic or finecast, but building that pile of crap was very mentally straining as a metal. Can't imagine doing it again. At least then it wouldn't fall apart under its own weight though.

The old Chimeras and Leman Russes. Those damn wheels on the tracks were annoying as all hell and the tracks just would not line up. Thankfully I will never have to see one of those kits again because we have a newer, easier to assemble kit.

Right now, the Dreamforge Leviathan. For very specific reasons. It's not a bad model by any means, in fact it's a well-engineered kit that requires a LOT of planning to build, and as it happens, I made a mistake that's impossible to correct. There's two ball-and-socket joins at both ends of the spine, and as chance would have it, these need to be *incredibly* tight to stop the entire model from lopping to one side when the right arm is mounted (the arm is THAT heavy). And if you don't tighten them enough while building, there's no way to do it later, because the requisite parts will be buried inside the torso.

The only way I can fix mine will be to saw off the mounting pegs at both ends of the spine, drill holes for metal rods that go through the balls and sockets, immobilizing the spine entire. Added to this the two pistons in the chest cavity, which fall off the top mounting at the slightest provocation. The entire kit is over-engineered by someone who clearly though they were being awfully clever.

It was a very expensive kit that I looked forward to for months, and now it's packed away in a box on top of my bookshelf, unlikely to ever come down.

See this thing?



(Spoilered for le huge image)

My dad got one for me when they first came out way back in the '80s. Pure lead and super heavy. As this was around the beginning of my wargaming and modelling carreer, neither of us knew too much about fancy stuff like pinning. Slowly and with much cursing, we managed to use a two-part epoxy to get the head, arm, hand and leg on.

But oh god, the wings.

They were HUGE and thick and we just couldn't get them to stay on at all. It wasn't until we looked at the crappy line drawing of the model included in the box that we realized that they wanted the builder to drill a hole in the lower foot, stick a metal rod in it and then drill another hole in the treasure pile to give the model the illusion of coming in for a landing. While this was clearly in the "Oh, HELL no!" category, it gave us the idea to try to use the metal rod to keep the wings on. (Yes, that was the exact moment Dad and I learned the magic of pinning metal models.) Happy ending, right?

Hahahaha! No.

Remember the HUGE and heavy wings? Made of soft lead? Damn things eventually bent under their own weight and broke next to the join. Broke my heart, too. It still haunts me as one of the few models that beat me.

Maybe one day, I'll tell you all about the joys of Ral Partha's Throne of Bone.

The Tanks... God Emperor the tanks!

all tanks, I hate them with their self important little tracks!

love the look and the play style of vehicles but hate to model, and paint them!

give me an Infantry squad any day!


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 TheCustomLime wrote:
The Drop Pod. Dear god was that a PITA in the ass to get right.. it's the harnesses that really killed me. And then I had to cut some tubing out to make the top fit on the bottom. Now one of the doors won't stay up!

Seconded

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
The metal Balrog wasn't a lot of fun. Some of the older citadel miniatures, large things like dragons and the like were a poor fit, but the for a more recent release the Balrog was a shocking fit. The ringwaiths on fell beasts apparently aren't much better.

I could never work out how the old metal beast of nurgle went together, the body came in three pieces. The back two made the two halves of the body, but the front piece seemed far far too wide to fit onto this. Packed in a lot of milliput, never worked out how it was supposed to be assembled.

See the second image on this page in particular, they've also failed to make any sense of this.
http://store.wargamingtrader.com/item/n283ws

I take it you're referring to the modern incarnation of the Balrog, i.e. the Peter Jackson version? Try the 1980s version from the 'Encounter at Khazad Dum' box set. One of my first GW purchases and a lovely model when completed - apparently. I just never got that far. Even after countless tubes of Epoxy glue (Araldite), gallons of superglue and modelling clay to support the joints while the glue set it refused to stay stuck on any of the parts, especially the amazingly weighty wings... Ended up trading for a Wood Elf Dragon masters set - already painted and assembled. I didn't even have a WE army and no intention to start, just had to get rid of the damned Balrog.

Many years later I truly regret parting with the model as I know that pinning would have solved the issues... The benefit of hindsight and experience I do though still have the dragon, albeit stripped of paint and disassembled, one day it will find it's way onto eBay or the swap shop...

How awesome is the artwork on the cover of that box that Gitkikka posted?

Hey Fellas,
The Drop pod is a fine example of why CG rendering should be applied only on the drawing board.
The doors dont stay open because the brainiac who designed it on the computer had no real world experience.
That is to say , he isnt a carpenter.
The doors wont stay shut because they need to be trimmed down at the hinges. The door on your home is not a perfectly square shape. The edges of your door are slightly angled in. This allows the door to clear the frame and fit snugly.
Trim your doors on the bottom lip and trim the floor where the door touches. Then glue it togther.
And the harnesses....
The clown who rendered it didnt bother inverting the image of the harness when it wraps around the center column.
Start with the image as it is positioned on the right side of the column.

As far as the worst fig to put together...

Without a doubt the Changer of Ways when it was metal...
SOOOO freaking heavy and such a piss poor mounting for the wings...

And BTW-- the Thunder fire wasnt that hard to put togther, as long as you dry fit it first and realize that the barrel DIDNT have a notch for that molded pin...wait a minute thats not a pin, thats the BIGGEST piece of FLASH ive ever seen!!!

Necron Warriors. Way back when, I made a silvertide army with 124 stinking Warriors. Never again. I was happy when I sold them for around $500. Recently I got 12 warriors just because. I discovered that I still hate them.

Forgeworld Aquilla Lander, I thought it was such a cool model, bought it, had plans for it, built it and since the build, I've never used it because I hate it so much


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 The Deathless Host wrote:
The Tanks... God Emperor the tanks!

I know it...

For Painting. Necron Ghost Ark / Doomsday Cannon. GW has several models where it says to paint one or two pieces separately... the instructions for this say to paint every individual rib separate.

I realize many people paint each part of most models separate before glue but this is the first one I have come across that the instructions actually suggest painting in 10+ pieces.

For Constctuction. metal wierdboy and/or SAG mek. And finecast crypteks and overlords. Finecrap is no good for anything with a staff

 Pacific wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:


Metal Zoanthrope,

Generally I've always preferred the nicer, heavier tactile feel of metal over plastic. The problem with that Zoanthrope was though that it would fall over on a 0.5% gradient!

I refused to buy any Tyranid elites in metal. Zoanthropes for the obvious top heaviness, Hive Guard because they required a ridiculous amount of pinning and/or green stuff reinforcment, Lictors and Venomthropes because pinning joints that small was nightmarish.

I was actually on the lookout for resin/plastic alternatives on the market when Finecast dropped. I nearly cried when I saw Tyranids were in the first wave, all except the Venomthrope, and knew it would be next. Day it dropped, I bought a Zoanthrope. Couldn't be happier with any of the Tyranid elites I've bought, except the Venomthrope (to be fair, I saw the faults in the clam pack, and bought it as much for resin repair practice as to use).

Man, I almost feel bad complaining about any model when I don't have any experience with metal, but I do have a couple I hate-

Ork Lootas, while ok to assemble, make me want to punch children to paint. That harness lets you see everything underneath it, but I can't get a brush around it.

Necron Infantry- All of it. The initial assembly will go fine-to-fustrating at best, and the paint is easy, but all the glue contact points are so goddamned tiny. I spend less time playing with necrons and more time fixing them after every time I take them out of the box.

Necron Ghost Ark- Look, I hear this complaint from alot of people, so at least I know I am not alone. So many fiddly little bits that need to go together perfectly, and somehow, connecting the back end to the front end will NEVER turn out right.

'Crons are fething annoying in all aspects. The old school metal tomb spyders are not welcome in my sight at present.

I've heard the oldschool metal wraiths are possibly one of the worst models to assemble in gw's entire history, but I've only been playing for about a year, so I can't say

 Dragonfodder wrote:
I've heard the oldschool metal wraiths are possibly one of the worst models to assemble in gw's entire history, but I've only been playing for about a year, so I can't say

Don't know where you heard that from, but I never had a problem with those (should have kept them, they looked better than the new ones...)

Necron Wraiths? Nah they were pretty easy. Not a huge amount of pieces, so they went together well. Tomb Spyders are far worse.

 King Pariah wrote:

 Dragonfodder wrote:
I've heard the oldschool metal wraiths are possibly one of the worst models to assemble in gw's entire history, but I've only been playing for about a year, so I can't say

Don't know where you heard that from, but I never had a problem with those (should have kept them, they looked better than the new ones...)

Ohhh ya... I sold my old wraiths but yes they could give the metal zoanthrope a run for its money in the "top heavy and connected by a sliver" category.

The problem with them was they were glued (should be pinned but some of us had not learned of that fancy maneuver yet) right in the center of that spine. I do not recall ever showing up to game without needing to glue the two halves back together

They're skinny flimsy things. They're no where near as weighty as the Zoanthrope.

I got into 40k late enough that I've never really had to deal with anything other than plastic.

Warmachine however has some truely pita models.

I know in my heart that one day the flag on my harbinger of menoth will snap somehwhere along the pole, and when that happens all is lost as it's too thin to pin.

Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

Old metal Speeder. I bought it for my Guard army, but there were no instructions with it (it came in a blister pack). I still meet a lot of veteran gamers who hated it.

On another note, would be nice to see speeders back with the Guard.

The metal Hive Tyrant for sure. The sheer amount of times that it has fallen to pieces has lead me to give up on it, hide the numerous bits in a cupboard and never look at it again.

Also space marines purely for the reason that I "must" buy so many of them in ever increasing amounts and am forced to make each one unique in its own way, after 200 you start to run out of new ideas...

Necron warriors they need some some zombie like pose. I don't like the way the legs are.

 B3AN wrote:
My first Rhino and Baal builds were both done in the same day. It was a humbling experience for a first time modeler. Those fething tracks were just...ugh. Looking forward to my first Storm Raven build. It will probably one up the Rhino chassis builds a bit. I see blood and glued skin.

I prefer those tracks to drangon magictrack.

I love putting together rhinos. They're easy to do and you don't have to glue the chassis to the body, so when they explode you can take them apart and they look wrecked.


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 Commander Cain wrote:
The metal Hive Tyrant for sure. The sheer amount of times that it has fallen to pieces has lead me to give up on it, hide the numerous bits in a cupboard and never look at it again.

Also space marines purely for the reason that I "must" buy so many of them in ever increasing amounts and am forced to make each one unique in its own way, after 200 you start to run out of new ideas...

I don't strugle to find new ideas. I just steal bits from my friends.

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
I got into 40k late enough that I've never really had to deal with anything other than plastic.

Warmachine however has some truely pita models.

I know in my heart that one day the flag on my harbinger of menoth will snap somehwhere along the pole, and when that happens all is lost as it's too thin to pin.

Actually, you could just replace the entire pole with a brass rod. Never had that particular model in my hands but google images makes it look doable. it's a pain in the neck to do, but not impossible

 somecallmeJack wrote:
Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

*crying*

I'm embarrassed to say i gave up.

There are chunks of Valkyrie all over my desk.

The metal Swarmlord gave me fits.

 Peregrine wrote:
Malcador tank:



See those nice exposed tracks? Well, the light gray part is resin and molded onto the hull, while the dark gray is the plastic track links from the Chimera. Which have to be assembled one link at a time, with nothing to anchor them in place while you align the next one, and have to be absolutely perfectly aligned or they won't follow the curve of the hull properly. Which means test-fitting the entire plastic section of the tracks before gluing anything, or you will inevitably make a mistake. And if you don't get everything exactly right they won't connect properly to the resin ends and you'll have a very obvious gap.

Now, this sounds bad enough already, but because of FW's "quality control" the sides are inevitably slightly the wrong size so it's impossible to get everything exactly right. And FW doesn't give you any instructions on how to do it, you just get a resin hull and a sprue of track links.

If as part of a life-sentence for a serial killer, you sentenced them to a life-time of assembling this kit, I think they could appeal and get the sentence changed to death as a result of cruel and unusual punishment.

To be fair I've helped a mate assemble that piece of gak, and really, I just started from the front and the rear leaving a gap on the bottom which was easily fixed with a bit of GS. sure, one side has a very long track link somewhere, the other side an (extra) very short one but really, noone will ever really notice that.
Took maybe 15min. per side to build once I'd figured that out

If that's not your cup of tea, get a ball of postertack, blu-tac or something like that, use it to dry-fit everything and once you're happy apply CA via one of those nifty applicator nozzles:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8465__CA_Applicator_Reg_1pc_.html
or the one included here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7525__Evotite_CA460_Foam_Safe_Super_Glue_Medium_.html

That'll work just as well. still a B&*^*& to fit of course but not the black magic it would otherwise be

 Jacknife wrote:

 somecallmeJack wrote:
Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

*crying*

I'm embarrassed to say i gave up.

There are chunks of Valkyrie all over my desk.

This mystifies me. I built 11 of the things back when they first came out, and they went together just fine.

Valkyrie, fantastic model, bitch to build. After gluing it back together 6 times within one game, it became target practice for a pair of 20 bores.... now its a nice terrain piece

Definately the Zoanthrope for me, and I never even built one. I just watched my sister in empathic agony trying to make the bugger stay up right.

Currently i have to mention Dragons 1:144 scale PanzerBeobWagen 3, the one that comes with the 54cm Karl Gerat Morser "Thor"

That peice of Gak is amazingly easy to build, has lovely crisp detailing except: The arial. The arial is a tiny wafer thin sliver of plastic attached to a sprue. When i went to cut it off the minor flex caused by the scalpel blade caused the er to snap in 2. Impossible to repair, and due to the nature of the design of German arials, impossible to replace. The tank has since been converted to a standard panzer 3 ausf H.

And on a side note here: The Karl Gerat itself comes with an etched brass sprue. Lovely detailing, 8 parts, just one problem - The instructions give no indication whatsoever as to the placement of these parts. I have so far worked out where on goes - the circular engine mesh cover but that is it. I actually have a thread on the modelling section of this site asking for help with these parts.

 master of ordinance wrote:
And on a side note here: The Karl Gerat itself comes with an etched brass sprue. Lovely detailing, 8 parts, just one problem - The instructions give no indication whatsoever as to the placement of these parts. I have so far worked out where on goes - the circular engine mesh cover but that is it. I actually have a thread on the modelling section of this site asking for help with these parts.

Ask on Armorama.com, they'll probably know.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
And on a side note here: The Karl Gerat itself comes with an etched brass sprue. Lovely detailing, 8 parts, just one problem - The instructions give no indication whatsoever as to the placement of these parts. I have so far worked out where on goes - the circular engine mesh cover but that is it. I actually have a thread on the modelling section of this site asking for help with these parts.

Ask on Armorama.com, they'll probably know.

Will do, Thanks

shade1313 wrote:
This mystifies me. I built 11 of the things back when they first came out, and they went together just fine.

Yeah, I don't get it either. The old FW resin Valkyrie is a kit from hell, but the new plastic kit is easy if you just take a moment to test fit and think about the best order to assemble the parts in.

The 3rd edition Hive Tyrant is the model that taught me I need to both pin and use decent quality glue and make sure the surfaces are cleaned up and if possible, roughed up with sandpaper/knife.

But once you have those things down, it's really not a big issue. My Zoanthrope fell off a table once and didn't break thanks to epic pinning, roughing and epoxy glue.

I've built some ship models that had insane aerial arrangements that were damned near impossible to remove from the sprue and glue together without, a) breaking pieces, b) making a mess gluing them together because the attachment points are tiny.


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Also, Necron Warriors. Not extremely hard, but hard enough given they are a core troop to completely put me off collecting a Necron army. The sprue attachments for the heads are on the cheeks... a concave surface... I don't know who had that brilliant idea. The sprues in general are too tight and the models are just a pain to get together given that they are the core troop for the army.

Oh, I almost forgot about the metal Thunderfire Cannon.

*shivers*

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Also, Necron Warriors. Not extremely hard, but hard enough given they are a core troop to completely put me off collecting a Necron army. The sprue attachments for the heads are on the cheeks... a concave surface... I don't know who had that brilliant idea. The sprues in general are too tight and the models are just a pain to get together given that they are the core troop for the army.

Concur, so annoying. I have a dozen odd of the fiddly little ********s left in the commission my brother gave me. (Assemble and prime an unholy feth ton of Necrons and then ship them to his base in Japan for painting fun)

The Panzer 3 i mentioned earlier, the one that was a panzerbeobwagen that i converted to a panzerbefelwagen. Painting the regimental command R on a 1:144 scale panzer 3 is agonizing. The first one went on fine but the 2nd one was a complete horror. I have just finished it to a satisfactory standard and i can say never again........

Ricco's republican guard, the models look awesome, but its almost impossible to get them to rank up properly on the 20mm bases, and when you do, the pikes go in all directions.
The ghost ark is a royal pain to put together.
The RT Landspeeder is a nightmare
The metal LR crusader sponsons took me ages, but i did get them to work.
the metal pink/blue horrors were tricky, and i never take them out of my model cabinet now since their arms are likely to fall off if you look at them wrong.
the old broadsides have a habit of snapping at the ankles, to get them to stick you have to pin them, or be very creative. i eventually scratch built railguns so the model wouldn't be so top heavy.

Worst model ever though was, and still is an airfix avro vulcan i got after my missus expressed her undying love for the aircraft, none of the parts actually fit where they are supposed to, i would have butchered it for parts if she didn't give me the hurt look every time i even think of it

Old metal Hive Tyrant....

Elder Guardians...why ? Ulthwe army...glue left leg to right leg over and over and over again aggghhhh !!

 somecallmeJack wrote:
Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

Oh please, you sir have never dealt with the old fully-resin Vultures. The crappy tailfins are nothing compared to the even thinner ones which the weight of the whole fuselage has to rest on.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I have never had issues with the Valkyrie. Nor any vehicle for that matter.

 Valkyrie wrote:
Oh please, you sir have never dealt with the old fully-resin Vultures. The crappy tailfins are nothing compared to the even thinner ones which the weight of the whole fuselage has to rest on.

Solution: pin everything, put it on a good flying base, and never "land" it. It's easy to avoid putting weight on the fins, and with a good pinning job it's no more fragile than any other resin kit. The one I got went together just fine, which is a complete contrast to the Valkyrie kit I got that is a horrible pile of parts that are supposed to fit together but are mis-sized in different ways.

For me it would be Revenant Titan and the old Fire Prism with the metal crystal.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
Oh please, you sir have never dealt with the old fully-resin Vultures. The crappy tailfins are nothing compared to the even thinner ones which the weight of the whole fuselage has to rest on.

Solution: pin everything, put it on a good flying base, and never "land" it. It's easy to avoid putting weight on the fins, and with a good pinning job it's no more fragile than any other resin kit. The one I got went together just fine, which is a complete contrast to the Valkyrie kit I got that is a horrible pile of parts that are supposed to fit together but are mis-sized in different ways.

Oh, lord. That's why I never actually built the FW Valkyries that I did buy. Really, the hull on this one is a half centimeter longer on one side than the other? And the same for the next one I got hold of?

Since the plastic one came out and went together so well, I'm really thinking that the FW kits I've got need to be made as wrecks, for scenery.

It wasn't the hardest model in the world but it was soul crushing:

Space marine biker.

I was young at the time and didn't realise it would require some skil to build the models.

I broke it in 3-4 places :( My first model I was heartbroken.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
Oh please, you sir have never dealt with the old fully-resin Vultures. The crappy tailfins are nothing compared to the even thinner ones which the weight of the whole fuselage has to rest on.

Solution: pin everything, put it on a good flying base, and never "land" it. It's easy to avoid putting weight on the fins, and with a good pinning job it's no more fragile than any other resin kit. The one I got went together just fine, which is a complete contrast to the Valkyrie kit I got that is a horrible pile of parts that are supposed to fit together but are mis-sized in different ways.

Wow, I had never thought of pinning it(!) Even drilling into the fins is difficult enough, both on the Valk and the Vulture simply due to the thinness of the pieces.

any more guardsmen.... you would think a hundred or so would be enough to make me commit sippoku

The Legion of Everblight Hexhunters, with their UA they eat glue spit it onto your fingers and laugh as you try to put tiny arms holding huge swords into stupid poses, Bayal is holding a sword in such a way to ensure he looks as silly as possible, and don't get me started on my Angelius, built, painted, and falls in half so often I haven't had the heart to reassemble him this time so it just kind of sits in the box, staring at the ceiling.

This maybe a bit strange but the IG Lord Commisar really, really annoyed me. His arms just refused point blank to stay on and seems to be resistant to all kinds of glue. In the end, I used an ungodly amount of glue and then melted his arms into place with a lighter.

This thread seems to rapidly becoming a pin-fest

 King Pariah wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I have never had issues with the Valkyrie. Nor any vehicle for that matter.

I think it depends if you grew up putting together Airfix kits and the like. If so, none of the new stuff on the market will give you any problems - especially if you were blooded on some of those 70's Airfix kits which, while probably not very good when they were first made, were an absolute nightmare twenty years later when you would end up with massive gaps between fuselage and wings!

Funnily enough, I've had a similar experience with some of the larger FW kits in recent times - absolute crap; resin is an appalling medium to use for larger vehicles, and there is no excuse at all for some of those not being a highly detailed plastic kit comparable to many others on the market. Especially when FW apparently sometimes have a blind man with no sense of touch throwing the miniature bits straight from the mould into packing!*

* based on getting a razorback turret (a single piece order) that was bent at 90 degrees from where it should have been.

 Pacific wrote:

 King Pariah wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I have never had issues with the Valkyrie. Nor any vehicle for that matter.

I think it depends if you grew up putting together Airfix kits and the like. If so, none of the new stuff on the market will give you any problems - especially if you were blooded on some of those 70's Airfix kits which, while probably not very good when they were first made, were an absolute nightmare twenty years later when you would end up with massive gaps between fuselage and wings!

Funnily enough, I've had a similar experience with some of the larger FW kits in recent times - absolute crap; resin is an appalling medium to use for larger vehicles, and there is no excuse at all for some of those not being a highly detailed plastic kit comparable to many others on the market. Especially when FW apparently sometimes have a blind man with no sense of touch throwing the miniature bits straight from the mould into packing!*

* based on getting a razorback turret (a single piece order) that was bent at 90 degrees from where it should have been.

Oh dont some of those old kits still give me nightmares

Not the worst model I have put together (that honour goes to the metal gyrocopter), but a combination of poor design, sculpting and general hate (possibly because I have had to paint 3 of the damn things) my award goes to the Warhammer plastic Chimera.

The Dogs of War Malakai Makaissons Goblin Hewer. There just seemed to be so many small pieces in awkward places. Too much glue and you were stuck to it, too little and they fell off.

Cheers

Andrew

steel Legion, made me want to scream, who makes a slotta that is too thin for the slot it has to go into I ask you!??!?

I think my most frustrating was the FW dreadnought drop pod. Poorly designed, poorly cast and the ball & socket joins for the doors broke straight away.

If only they'd had plastic DP's at that point!

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
I think my most frustrating was the FW dreadnought drop pod. Poorly designed, poorly cast and the ball & socket joins for the doors broke straight away.

If only they'd had plastic DP's at that point!

Put one together recently, and my god its a heavy piece of resin!, two doors broke off when I put it so I flogged it on ebay, heartbroken :(

Metal Talos X 3