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 Dragonfodder wrote:
I've heard the oldschool metal wraiths are possibly one of the worst models to assemble in gw's entire history, but I've only been playing for about a year, so I can't say

Don't know where you heard that from, but I never had a problem with those (should have kept them, they looked better than the new ones...)

Necron Wraiths? Nah they were pretty easy. Not a huge amount of pieces, so they went together well. Tomb Spyders are far worse.

 King Pariah wrote:

 Dragonfodder wrote:
I've heard the oldschool metal wraiths are possibly one of the worst models to assemble in gw's entire history, but I've only been playing for about a year, so I can't say

Don't know where you heard that from, but I never had a problem with those (should have kept them, they looked better than the new ones...)

Ohhh ya... I sold my old wraiths but yes they could give the metal zoanthrope a run for its money in the "top heavy and connected by a sliver" category.

The problem with them was they were glued (should be pinned but some of us had not learned of that fancy maneuver yet) right in the center of that spine. I do not recall ever showing up to game without needing to glue the two halves back together

They're skinny flimsy things. They're no where near as weighty as the Zoanthrope.

I got into 40k late enough that I've never really had to deal with anything other than plastic.

Warmachine however has some truely pita models.

I know in my heart that one day the flag on my harbinger of menoth will snap somehwhere along the pole, and when that happens all is lost as it's too thin to pin.

Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

Old metal Speeder. I bought it for my Guard army, but there were no instructions with it (it came in a blister pack). I still meet a lot of veteran gamers who hated it.

On another note, would be nice to see speeders back with the Guard.

The metal Hive Tyrant for sure. The sheer amount of times that it has fallen to pieces has lead me to give up on it, hide the numerous bits in a cupboard and never look at it again.

Also space marines purely for the reason that I "must" buy so many of them in ever increasing amounts and am forced to make each one unique in its own way, after 200 you start to run out of new ideas...

Necron warriors they need some some zombie like pose. I don't like the way the legs are.

 B3AN wrote:
My first Rhino and Baal builds were both done in the same day. It was a humbling experience for a first time modeler. Those fething tracks were just...ugh. Looking forward to my first Storm Raven build. It will probably one up the Rhino chassis builds a bit. I see blood and glued skin.

I prefer those tracks to drangon magictrack.

I love putting together rhinos. They're easy to do and you don't have to glue the chassis to the body, so when they explode you can take them apart and they look wrecked.


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 Commander Cain wrote:
The metal Hive Tyrant for sure. The sheer amount of times that it has fallen to pieces has lead me to give up on it, hide the numerous bits in a cupboard and never look at it again.

Also space marines purely for the reason that I "must" buy so many of them in ever increasing amounts and am forced to make each one unique in its own way, after 200 you start to run out of new ideas...

I don't strugle to find new ideas. I just steal bits from my friends.

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
I got into 40k late enough that I've never really had to deal with anything other than plastic.

Warmachine however has some truely pita models.

I know in my heart that one day the flag on my harbinger of menoth will snap somehwhere along the pole, and when that happens all is lost as it's too thin to pin.

Actually, you could just replace the entire pole with a brass rod. Never had that particular model in my hands but google images makes it look doable. it's a pain in the neck to do, but not impossible

 somecallmeJack wrote:
Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

*crying*

I'm embarrassed to say i gave up.

There are chunks of Valkyrie all over my desk.

The metal Swarmlord gave me fits.

 Peregrine wrote:
Malcador tank:



See those nice exposed tracks? Well, the light gray part is resin and molded onto the hull, while the dark gray is the plastic track links from the Chimera. Which have to be assembled one link at a time, with nothing to anchor them in place while you align the next one, and have to be absolutely perfectly aligned or they won't follow the curve of the hull properly. Which means test-fitting the entire plastic section of the tracks before gluing anything, or you will inevitably make a mistake. And if you don't get everything exactly right they won't connect properly to the resin ends and you'll have a very obvious gap.

Now, this sounds bad enough already, but because of FW's "quality control" the sides are inevitably slightly the wrong size so it's impossible to get everything exactly right. And FW doesn't give you any instructions on how to do it, you just get a resin hull and a sprue of track links.

If as part of a life-sentence for a serial killer, you sentenced them to a life-time of assembling this kit, I think they could appeal and get the sentence changed to death as a result of cruel and unusual punishment.

To be fair I've helped a mate assemble that piece of gak, and really, I just started from the front and the rear leaving a gap on the bottom which was easily fixed with a bit of GS. sure, one side has a very long track link somewhere, the other side an (extra) very short one but really, noone will ever really notice that.
Took maybe 15min. per side to build once I'd figured that out

If that's not your cup of tea, get a ball of postertack, blu-tac or something like that, use it to dry-fit everything and once you're happy apply CA via one of those nifty applicator nozzles:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8465__CA_Applicator_Reg_1pc_.html
or the one included here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7525__Evotite_CA460_Foam_Safe_Super_Glue_Medium_.html

That'll work just as well. still a B&*^*& to fit of course but not the black magic it would otherwise be

 Jacknife wrote:

 somecallmeJack wrote:
Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

*crying*

I'm embarrassed to say i gave up.

There are chunks of Valkyrie all over my desk.

This mystifies me. I built 11 of the things back when they first came out, and they went together just fine.

Valkyrie, fantastic model, bitch to build. After gluing it back together 6 times within one game, it became target practice for a pair of 20 bores.... now its a nice terrain piece

Definately the Zoanthrope for me, and I never even built one. I just watched my sister in empathic agony trying to make the bugger stay up right.

Currently i have to mention Dragons 1:144 scale PanzerBeobWagen 3, the one that comes with the 54cm Karl Gerat Morser "Thor"

That peice of Gak is amazingly easy to build, has lovely crisp detailing except: The arial. The arial is a tiny wafer thin sliver of plastic attached to a sprue. When i went to cut it off the minor flex caused by the scalpel blade caused the er to snap in 2. Impossible to repair, and due to the nature of the design of German arials, impossible to replace. The tank has since been converted to a standard panzer 3 ausf H.

And on a side note here: The Karl Gerat itself comes with an etched brass sprue. Lovely detailing, 8 parts, just one problem - The instructions give no indication whatsoever as to the placement of these parts. I have so far worked out where on goes - the circular engine mesh cover but that is it. I actually have a thread on the modelling section of this site asking for help with these parts.

 master of ordinance wrote:
And on a side note here: The Karl Gerat itself comes with an etched brass sprue. Lovely detailing, 8 parts, just one problem - The instructions give no indication whatsoever as to the placement of these parts. I have so far worked out where on goes - the circular engine mesh cover but that is it. I actually have a thread on the modelling section of this site asking for help with these parts.

Ask on Armorama.com, they'll probably know.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
And on a side note here: The Karl Gerat itself comes with an etched brass sprue. Lovely detailing, 8 parts, just one problem - The instructions give no indication whatsoever as to the placement of these parts. I have so far worked out where on goes - the circular engine mesh cover but that is it. I actually have a thread on the modelling section of this site asking for help with these parts.

Ask on Armorama.com, they'll probably know.

Will do, Thanks

shade1313 wrote:
This mystifies me. I built 11 of the things back when they first came out, and they went together just fine.

Yeah, I don't get it either. The old FW resin Valkyrie is a kit from hell, but the new plastic kit is easy if you just take a moment to test fit and think about the best order to assemble the parts in.

The 3rd edition Hive Tyrant is the model that taught me I need to both pin and use decent quality glue and make sure the surfaces are cleaned up and if possible, roughed up with sandpaper/knife.

But once you have those things down, it's really not a big issue. My Zoanthrope fell off a table once and didn't break thanks to epic pinning, roughing and epoxy glue.

I've built some ship models that had insane aerial arrangements that were damned near impossible to remove from the sprue and glue together without, a) breaking pieces, b) making a mess gluing them together because the attachment points are tiny.


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Also, Necron Warriors. Not extremely hard, but hard enough given they are a core troop to completely put me off collecting a Necron army. The sprue attachments for the heads are on the cheeks... a concave surface... I don't know who had that brilliant idea. The sprues in general are too tight and the models are just a pain to get together given that they are the core troop for the army.

Oh, I almost forgot about the metal Thunderfire Cannon.

*shivers*

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Also, Necron Warriors. Not extremely hard, but hard enough given they are a core troop to completely put me off collecting a Necron army. The sprue attachments for the heads are on the cheeks... a concave surface... I don't know who had that brilliant idea. The sprues in general are too tight and the models are just a pain to get together given that they are the core troop for the army.

Concur, so annoying. I have a dozen odd of the fiddly little ********s left in the commission my brother gave me. (Assemble and prime an unholy feth ton of Necrons and then ship them to his base in Japan for painting fun)

The Panzer 3 i mentioned earlier, the one that was a panzerbeobwagen that i converted to a panzerbefelwagen. Painting the regimental command R on a 1:144 scale panzer 3 is agonizing. The first one went on fine but the 2nd one was a complete horror. I have just finished it to a satisfactory standard and i can say never again........

Ricco's republican guard, the models look awesome, but its almost impossible to get them to rank up properly on the 20mm bases, and when you do, the pikes go in all directions.
The ghost ark is a royal pain to put together.
The RT Landspeeder is a nightmare
The metal LR crusader sponsons took me ages, but i did get them to work.
the metal pink/blue horrors were tricky, and i never take them out of my model cabinet now since their arms are likely to fall off if you look at them wrong.
the old broadsides have a habit of snapping at the ankles, to get them to stick you have to pin them, or be very creative. i eventually scratch built railguns so the model wouldn't be so top heavy.

Worst model ever though was, and still is an airfix avro vulcan i got after my missus expressed her undying love for the aircraft, none of the parts actually fit where they are supposed to, i would have butchered it for parts if she didn't give me the hurt look every time i even think of it

Old metal Hive Tyrant....

Elder Guardians...why ? Ulthwe army...glue left leg to right leg over and over and over again aggghhhh !!

 somecallmeJack wrote:
Valkyries.

The parts just don't fit together properly meaning the slightest breeze causes it to just fall apart.

Oh please, you sir have never dealt with the old fully-resin Vultures. The crappy tailfins are nothing compared to the even thinner ones which the weight of the whole fuselage has to rest on.