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Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 21:09:29


Post by: Breotan


So, are we to believe that the attitude of a certain foam cutting maven is unique? Or is there "something in the water" down in Arizona?

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-learns-online-reviews-break-072759344.html

Essentially the owners of a restaurant launched a diatribe against critics and even the guy from Hell's Kitchen told them to get the @#*& out when he tried to lend a helping hand.

So, what's going on down there in Arizona?



Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 21:25:33


Post by: SilverMK2


Yeah, there are a few stories around of various people going completely mental when people post or say negative (or even "not glowing positive") things about their company.

Happens all over, from tiny one man operations up to CEO's of massive companies (though obviously these are much rarer).


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 21:28:22


Post by: LordofHats


Telling Gordon Ramsey he doesn't know food is like telling a fish it can't swim. Signed their own death warrant.

Though as a long time viewer of Kitchen Nightmares, that kind of attitude is shown on the show a lot. I'm actually shocked that the article says this is the first time he hasn't saved a business. Watching the show for the past three years, I'd swear at least half of them didn't look like they were gonna make it.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 21:31:57


Post by: Ouze


how was there not a thread on this before now

Jesus dakka. I am disappoint.

You may watch the episode here:




Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 21:32:04


Post by: SilverMK2


 LordofHats wrote:
I'm actually shocked that the article says this is the first time he hasn't saved a business. Watching the show for the past three years, I'd swear at least half of them didn't look like they were gonna make it.


Really? I thought quite a few of them went under.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 21:54:09


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 SilverMK2 wrote:
Really? I thought quite a few of them went under.

I know I've seen several episodes were the restaurant has gone under after he left, maybe this folded during his intervention.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:00:04


Post by: LordofHats


 SilverMK2 wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
I'm actually shocked that the article says this is the first time he hasn't saved a business. Watching the show for the past three years, I'd swear at least half of them didn't look like they were gonna make it.


Really? I thought quite a few of them went under.


That's what the article says not me. I don't believe it.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:01:05


Post by: hotsauceman1


I think it may be they mean it is the first time in an episode he failed


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:07:38


Post by: azazel the cat


Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 SilverMK2 wrote:
Really? I thought quite a few of them went under.

I know I've seen several episodes were the restaurant has gone under after he left, maybe this folded during his intervention.

I think the point is that the ones who listen to him and take his advice don't generally go under. It's the ones that revert back to their "old ways" or refuse to change that sink, by and large.


Anyway, here's a bunch more of these people:
The guy may get deported
The woman's undiagnosed mental problems continue
and
They almost got sued by Fox


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:12:13


Post by: deathmagiks


 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think it may be they mean it is the first time in an episode he failed


Completely off topic: your avatar combined with your designation (venerable dreadnought), is positively hilarious.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:20:12


Post by: Hlaine Larkin mk2


 Ouze wrote:
how was there not a thread on this before now

Jesus dakka. I am disappoint.

You may watch the episode here:




The fallout on facebook on their page after that was pretty hilarious


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:27:33


Post by: hotsauceman1


 LordofHats wrote:
Telling Gordon Ramsey he doesn't know food is like telling a fish it can't swim. Signed their own death warrant.
.

Ramsey doesnt have anything on the Nazi chef from our schools culinary department. He is scary as heck. Nice to anyone that isnt his student though.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/22 22:51:49


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Ouze wrote:
how was there not a thread on this before now

Jesus dakka. I am disappoint.

You may watch the episode here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjgHEctcy0

I'm less than a minute in and my opinion as to why they're in trouble is; spoiled princess with a thin skin who lives in a bubble, with ideas that far outstrip her talent, and a husband who enables her. In short a recipe for disaster


**edit**
Just seen the husband blow a gasket and he and his wife seem to have very similar personalities


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:15:45


Post by: Grey Templar


 Ouze wrote:
how was there not a thread on this before now

Jesus dakka. I am disappoint.

You may watch the episode here:




Holy feth, is that for real

I can't believe what I just saw.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:17:34


Post by: Ouze


Yeah, if anyone is skimming this thread and hasn't seen the video because you're not into reality TV or whatever (I haven't watched anything like that since the second season of Survivor), I assure you, it's totally worth the watch, super entertaining.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:18:17


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Grey Templar wrote:
Holy feth, is that for real

I can't believe what I just saw.

I had pretty low expectations for what to expect from that video. All I can say is that my expectations clearly were not low enough


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:20:55


Post by: hotsauceman1


Great, Im addicted to this show.
Working in a kitchen this is SO fun to watch.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:26:31


Post by: SagesStone


Wait, that place is still open?


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:29:43


Post by: Grey Templar


It is?

How do enough people still go there with that reputation?


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:33:22


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Grey Templar wrote:
It is?

How do enough people still go there with that reputation?

I'm guessing for the spectacle. According to the links azazel provided above they recently had a grand re-opening. With 10% of the proceeds going to an anti cyber-bullying charity. Maybe they should have looked for a source of bullying closer to home


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:36:13


Post by: SagesStone


They did, cyber bullying sounds right up their alley.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:39:33


Post by: Grey Templar


Really?

Cyberbullying is something that happens to kids in school, not Restaurants.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:44:06


Post by: Dreadclaw69


Yeah but the owner's believe that their woe are because of "haters" and "bloggers", so I'm sure this is their way of striking back.

It's funnier if you read the link about their social media being allegedly hacked
http://www.capitalbay.com/latest-news/341210-amy-s-baking-company-goes-nuts-facebook-claims-they-were-hacked.html

Most of the posts (including one that read "come to my business. say it to my face. man to man. my wife is a jewel in the desert. you are just trash," and a comment response explaining, "WE DONT LET SLUTTY BITCHES LIKE YOU HERE") have since been deleted and replaced by this message:


And many other examples besides


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:44:08


Post by: Ouze


Well, they have bigger problems now, anyway.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:45:42


Post by: JWhex


the restaraunt business is very hard, that guy must be spending millions to prop that place up for his trophy wife.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:46:34


Post by: Krellnus


 n0t_u wrote:
Wait, that place is still open?

My god, kill it now, kill it with fire!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:47:56


Post by: LordofHats


I watch that video and I think "My god woman, please tell me you weren't born looking like that." There is such a thing as too much makeup. Man these people have problems.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:52:38


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


Crazy CRAZY CRAAAAAAZEEE!

She needs a straight jacket, STAT!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:53:42


Post by: Soo'Vah'Cha


I usually start off rooting for them to succeed and salvage the business, and only about halfway do I think...hmm maybe its better if this place folds..I was 2 min into the show and already want them to get curbstomped my Mr.Ramsey, and go out of business, it usually takes a bit more of the episode to highlight that bad of a personality problem.

Oh well , now just to watch the rest and count Gordons bleeps.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:54:55


Post by: LordofHats


It's not their fault man. It's all the online h8ters bro


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 00:56:32


Post by: hotsauceman1


TBh, he doest curse alot.
He just kinda acts sad and dejected.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 01:07:35


Post by: Dreadclaw69


I'm reading their Facebook page and there are some real laugh out loud moments

Amy claims they have 1500 reservations for the weekend??? an hour wait per table. It would take this so called chef 61 days to feed everyone raw pizza and frozen ravioli


Unflattering portrayal on TV included when you yelled at a customer, demanded he pay for food he didn't receive, physically assault him and then threaten to call the cops on him? Hmm, the camera must add 5 lbs of unprofessional.


whats does Gordon Ramsey know??????? He only has over 20 resturants on 3 different continents, 8 cookbooks, 22 Michilan stars, 4 tv shows, and a line of cookware.


Hay. My name is Henry and you may have seen me on the episode ABC was on of Gordon Ramsay's show. I would just like to say a few words. When i worked there, you(Sammy and Amy) paid me 7.25 per hour. None of the servers that you employed where given any of the tips and neither was I. So for you to say in you comments the "assertions that the restaurant confiscates tips from servers" implies that these assertion are not true. Furthermore, as i said on the show, within a week of working for you, I was forced to wash your car in the middle of summer, which is true. I have no personal grudge against either of you, in fact i hope your relaunch is a complete success but what should happen is after the relaunch is you start letting the servers have the tips they rightfully deserve. In conclusion, you should use this media attention to your advantage by completely changing the way you run your restaurant. P.S. Stop being to immature and lashing out of facebook.


Amy, please don't stop, your crusade is a noble one. People are just jealous of your rare gift, that is being able to speak kitty cat. Everyone knows that cats control the internets, and you have a powerful tool at your disposal to do away with all the haters out there. Go, tell your cat friends of the horrible injustice that has been brought upon you by Gordon Ramsey and the people of the internet. I too, speak cat, and I have personally spoken with many kitties that have eaten your food, and they say that it is delicious, better that Friskies even, and I urge you to speak with the head Cat of the internet, his name is Senor Whiskeros. Tell Senor Whiskeros of your struggle, and if you are deemed worthy, he will charge you with the three Feline Trials. Complete the Feline Trials, and Senor Whiskeros will put a stop to all of the REDITS out there, for Senor Whiskeros is the all powerful Cat ruler of the internets.



Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 01:13:19


Post by: JWhex


Amy has served time in a federal penitentiary and INS is trying to deport Sammy.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 01:14:52


Post by: LordofHats


I'm honestly amazed by Ramsey's restraint. I've seen him curse people out for much less than these people.

These two have to be two of the most insane people I've ever witnessed, and I have met some truly insane people in my life. I thought I knew crazy, but now I realize I was fooling myself. Damn. I always think most reality tv is fake but I don't think anyone can fake this.

Props to those employees though. My god. Someone send a message to the Pope, these people deserve sainthood!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 01:23:32


Post by: Dreadclaw69


I think Ramsey knew that chewing them out like they so richly deserved would have been counter productive and just lead to them trotting out their cries of victim. It was amazing watching the transformation from respectful restaurant owners who wanted to show him what they could do, to what was behind the mask.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 01:48:18


Post by: Soo'Vah'Cha


Gordon is mellowing out to much, maybe its because he's in the states and does not want to get shot by some crazy trophy wife

Wow, though that was a hard one to watch, over a 100 employees in a years time turnover, screaming at customers in the dining area, and the crazy amy lady , refusing to even listen to one of the worlds top chefs advice.

I actually felt bad for Mr. Ramsey for having to deal with them..but still wanted to hear him go ballistic on them.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 02:08:27


Post by: SagesStone


Maybe it's just his faith in humanity dying.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 03:19:10


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


Not if Senor Whiskeros has anything to say about it!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 04:37:09


Post by: hotsauceman1


This is just mouth to mouth, Someone told me it might be a front for organized crime though.
I mean, how else can they afford the Rent-a-cops?


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 04:45:37


Post by: JWhex


I wonder how many customers went there just for the drama. It seems like that place would be a magnet for trouble makers and people wanting to get a good laugh


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 05:26:08


Post by: Mannahnin


Hotsauce,I'm pretty sure you mean "word of mouth", rather than "mouth to mouth".


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 06:49:36


Post by: SagesStone


Word of mouth while correct, is not as funny a slip.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 09:01:07


Post by: azazel the cat


Mannahnin wrote:Hotsauce,I'm pretty sure you mean "word of mouth", rather than "mouth to mouth".

Depends on what kind of criminal enterprise he's implying.


For what it's worth, Hotsauce is probably correct, as the owner is being investigated by ICE for alleged ties to drug smuggling.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 13:27:48


Post by: gorgon


Setting aside the quirks of the main actors in this particular drama...Arizona is kind of a funny place. Very independent-minded. The kind of place where they don't like being told what to do so much that they'll do the opposite just to spite you. IMO.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 13:31:28


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 gorgon wrote:
Very independent-minded. The kind of place where they don't like being told what to do so much that they'll do the opposite just to spite you. IMO.

Bit silly of them to call in a world renowned chef who is famous for telling people exactly what is wrong with their restaurant, and how to fix it


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 13:31:58


Post by: kronk


They opened the pizzeria about six years ago.


It's a fething pizzeria. Jesus Christ.

How bad are they fething up fething pizza for feths sake?

They could buy pre-packaged Kroger Brand Pizza and serve it to people and still be in business.

fething hell.

fig pizza was too sweet and arrived on raw dough.


Fig. Pizza. I'm glad they went under.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 13:37:28


Post by: Dreadclaw69


The video just reminds me of the phrase "If you're upset with me for my opinion, maybe you shouldn't have asked me for it"

 kronk wrote:
They opened the pizzeria about six years ago.


It's a fething pizzeria. Jesus Christ.

How bad are they fething up fething pizza for feths sake?

They could buy pre-packaged Kroger Brand Pizza and serve it to people and still be in business.

fething hell.

fig pizza was too sweet and arrived on raw dough.


Fig. Pizza. I'm glad they went under.

Well, they were serving frozen ravioli so maybe they'll listen to your idea.... then again you are on the internet so I'm sure you're just a "hater"


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 16:02:25


Post by: Lordhat


 Breotan wrote:
So, are we to believe that the attitude of a certain foam cutting maven is unique? Or is there "something in the water" down in Arizona?

So, what's going on down there in Arizona?



Some people adapt to the heat, some just get fried brains.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 16:15:22


Post by: Monster Rain


 LordofHats wrote:
 SilverMK2 wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
I'm actually shocked that the article says this is the first time he hasn't saved a business. Watching the show for the past three years, I'd swear at least half of them didn't look like they were gonna make it.


Really? I thought quite a few of them went under.


That's what the article says not me. I don't believe it.


Restaurants that are on the show still fail.

The difference here was that Gordon didn't even try after he realized how ridiculous the owners were, and when you consider some of the fools he's suffered in the past, that's truly saying something.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 16:43:38


Post by: Necros


Never saw this show but I watch Restaurant Impossible on the food network a lot.. guess it's the same idea?

Honestly I don't know if I'd want to go to any of the restaurants they help save a few.. Most of em were crawling with roaches or have 80 year old grease stains all over the kitchen.. it's nasty. And if it was like that before, it'll be like that again... maybe not in a week or a month, but eventually..


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 18:19:09


Post by: kronk


 Necros wrote:
Never saw this show but I watch Restaurant Impossible on the food network a lot.. guess it's the same idea?


Same idea, just add 40% more screaming and 178% more f-bombs.

It's this guy, but on a different show.

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Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 18:22:02


Post by: BlapBlapBlap


Awww... Now that episode's spoiled for me...


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 18:41:58


Post by: Breotan


Yea, Gordon is an internet meme superstar.



Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 18:50:03


Post by: Frazzled


 kronk wrote:
 Necros wrote:
Never saw this show but I watch Restaurant Impossible on the food network a lot.. guess it's the same idea?


Same idea, just add 40% more screaming and 178% more f-bombs.

It's this guy, but on a different show.

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That was awesome.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 20:50:24


Post by: timetowaste85


Can somebody please go to this restaurant and verify that it's that bad? There's no way humanly possible to make a restaurant this horrible, especially putting it on TV for the world to see how bad you are. Somebody has to confirm this...really. Both Amy and Samy need to be deported. To the moon. Where oxygen is illegal. (If this is real)


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/23 21:37:19


Post by: Fafnir


Typically, I'm always of the opinion that the British version of the series is far better than the American version, since the American version always tends to get ridiculously over-the-top.

That said, this episode crosses the line twice, to the point of being a thing of true beauty.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 00:04:48


Post by: Dreadclaw69


And of course there is a p8ss take Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAmysBakingCompany
Samy and I would like to address the deportation allegations that came to light yesterday.
All allegations of Samy having this criminal past is completely untrue and are being made up to destroy us. The hackers are at it again.
These people are trying to destroying us, our restaurant and our very livelihood.
I want you to think for a second how this will effect us and our kids. kids who are meowing in fear of loosing their daddy. They were crying last night, "meow...meow...meow"
It just breaks my heart what these haters are doing to us.

I mean seriously...
Deportation process linked to failure to disclose past on immigration application?
We have nothing to hide. If we did have something, Samy would have wrote it on the application. I'm sure of it.

Involvement with drug distribution, threats, extortion?
These were all done by the hacker that hacked our account previously.
Again, he went into our Facebook and Yelp accounts and changed our records
to make it seem like Samy has had suspicious criminal history.
Samy doesn't make threats. We are the ones being threatened here.

Kicked out and banned from France and Germany?
Neither Samy or I have never even been to those states.
So how could we be banned from there?

These are just awful people trying to destroy our grand reopening and stopping us from being successful. Hell's Kitchen is really destroying our lives.

Meow
Amy & Samy





Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 00:37:18


Post by: hotsauceman1


Appretnly those cakes arent even her's she buys them and resells them


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 00:45:05


Post by: Monster Rain


Her counter-argument being that Walmart doesn't make the electronics that they sell but no one gives them a hard time about it.

Yeah, she said that.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 00:56:45


Post by: Dreadclaw69


Pretty sure Wal-Mart aren't claiming to make the electronics though


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 00:56:46


Post by: Krellnus


 Monster Rain wrote:
Her counter-argument being that Walmart doesn't make the electronics that they sell be no one gives them a hard time about it.

Yeah, she said that.

Ow.. The stupid hurts.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 02:49:12


Post by: Fafnir


I love this woman.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 03:32:55


Post by: Krellnus


 Fafnir wrote:
I love this woman.

No! You must burn for your heathenous ways!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 22:37:37


Post by: timetowaste85


 Ouze wrote:
how was there not a thread on this before now

Jesus dakka. I am disappoint.

You may watch the episode here:




Ouze, I just want to tell you to go stick it where the sun don't shine...I'm addicted to this show now. And I hate reality TV!!! DAMMIT!!!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/24 22:39:46


Post by: LordofHats


Its okay. I hate reality tv too but I do watch anything I can find with Gordon Ramsey. The man is a god among men


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 02:42:40


Post by: Ouze


I have thus far avoided watching any additional episodes - I've only ever seen the one.

The last episode prior to this I have seen to what could be called "reality TV" would be Survivor, season 2.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 03:34:48


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


Kitchen Nightmares is actually very good if you can get to see the British ones, before he was brought over to the US for Fox.

He actually dealt with business issues and tried to fix things and you actually see him working with chefs to improve standards and techniques. The American version, with the voice over guy and dramatic music is a farce in comparison, I occasionally watch them, but it's nothing like as good a show.

And it's all a shame, because whilst he is a pantomime character over here, he was a passionate and skilled chef. Even Bourdain said that he admired his skill and love of his craft when you see his British shows. The F word is another great show he did over in the UK.


But yes, watched this the other day, pure comedy gold.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 03:55:00


Post by: Andrew1975


Shame on all you internet haters, you are doing exactly what the Illuminati is telling you to do and ruining these good people, their fine establishment and excellent food. Is there no escape from this plot here even on Dakka, for shame!


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 04:51:49


Post by: Fafnir


 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Kitchen Nightmares is actually very good if you can get to see the British ones, before he was brought over to the US for Fox.

He actually dealt with business issues and tried to fix things and you actually see him working with chefs to improve standards and techniques. The American version, with the voice over guy and dramatic music is a farce in comparison, I occasionally watch them, but it's nothing like as good a show.

And it's all a shame, because whilst he is a pantomime character over here, he was a passionate and skilled chef. Even Bourdain said that he admired his skill and love of his craft when you see his British shows. The F word is another great show he did over in the UK.


But yes, watched this the other day, pure comedy gold.


I didn't get to see many episodes of it, but The F Word was my favourite show of his.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 05:16:22


Post by: Mannahnin


I've watched a good bit of F Word on BBC America. It is indeed a good 'un. Original Kitchen Nightmares is pretty good too, but gets repetitive.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 05:53:44


Post by: Melissia


I never liked his kitchen shows myself. Being an as for the sake of being an ass, which is often how he depicts himself, doesn't really jibe with me... always put me off, even when others were entertained.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 06:15:41


Post by: Mannahnin


I've never seen him be an ass for the sake of being an ass. I've seen him be verbally abusive toward people, generally when they're doing stupid things, because that's his shtick (and that kind of domineering and loudmouthed personality is apparently not that rare among chefs, though maybe Monster Rain can correct me on that if I'm mistaken).

In most of Ramsey's shows it's quite obvious that he cares about cooking, about nutrition, about quality, and about customers. And about trying to help businesses be viable and put out good product.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 06:30:39


Post by: Relapse


 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
And of course there is a p8ss take Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/CrazyAmysBakingCompany
Samy and I would like to address the deportation allegations that came to light yesterday.
All allegations of Samy having this criminal past is completely untrue and are being made up to destroy us. The hackers are at it again.
These people are trying to destroying us, our restaurant and our very livelihood.
I want you to think for a second how this will effect us and our kids. kids who are meowing in fear of loosing their daddy. They were crying last night, "meow...meow...meow"
It just breaks my heart what these haters are doing to us.

I mean seriously...
Deportation process linked to failure to disclose past on immigration application?
We have nothing to hide. If we did have something, Samy would have wrote it on the application. I'm sure of it.

Involvement with drug distribution, threats, extortion?
These were all done by the hacker that hacked our account previously.
Again, he went into our Facebook and Yelp accounts and changed our records
to make it seem like Samy has had suspicious criminal history.
Samy doesn't make threats. We are the ones being threatened here.

Kicked out and banned from France and Germany?
Neither Samy or I have never even been to those states.
So how could we be banned from there?

These are just awful people trying to destroy our grand reopening and stopping us from being successful. Hell's Kitchen is really destroying our lives.

Meow
Amy & Samy






I guess Sammy claiming to be a gangster on a national show as a means of attempting to intimidate Gordon wasn't such a good idea after all.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 09:51:48


Post by: Fafnir


 Mannahnin wrote:

In most of Ramsey's shows it's quite obvious that he cares about cooking, about nutrition, about quality, and about customers. And about trying to help businesses be viable and put out good product.


And that's what made The F Word so good. It was essentially him just gushing about his love for his work, with none of the distractions or screaming.

In the British version of Kitchen Nightmares, they don't sensationalize his persona nearly as much. I remember one episode where he was actually nothing but friendly.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 12:13:11


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


 Mannahnin wrote:
I've never seen him be an ass for the sake of being an ass. I've seen him be verbally abusive toward people, generally when they're doing stupid things, because that's his shtick (and that kind of domineering and loudmouthed personality is apparently not that rare among chefs, though maybe Monster Rain can correct me on that if I'm mistaken).


My brother and father are both chefs, it's common to be a domineering bastard in the kitchen, you have to hustle. In my brother's last kitchen in london, there were about 70 staff active in the kitchen during the main service, of a great ethnic diversity, the italians hated the north africans, the polish hated the romanians etc. So you had to be less like a cook and more like a commissar to get them to do the gak you want.

My dad ran a large kitchen like that in his youth as well, even to this day, when he shouts, he reverts to the London accent he'd picked up back then.

So many chefs and second chefs are loud and aggressive bastards. Also, if I recall, Ramsey grew up in the Glasgow housing projects, which is as tough a place to be a kid as we have in the UK, to an abusive alcoholic family. So it's not all show, it's just that his American shows really amplify and concentrate on it, because the Americans are fascinated by nasty Brits.


And the F Word was a great show, really showed what Ramsey is capable of. Another bloke that is very good to watch talking about food from over there is Hugh Fernley Wittingstall, who is remarkable as the only other celebrity chef that Ramsey doesn't hate into a hole in the ground. He's not really a chef, but a cook with a real passion for sustainable catch, grow your own etc.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 13:24:30


Post by: Relapse


He reminds me of a DI. He tears people down, then rebuilds them. The thing I really like about kitchen nightmares is that it's a great study in problem solving. He spends most of the show at what could be called doing a "Gemba Walk", finding out for himself what is wrong with a restaraunt. Then he comes up with a plan for the place. After all that he comes back for a follow up, sometimes to find the fixes didn't stick.
It's a classic PDCA method that he seems to use.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 13:44:42


Post by: Monster Rain


 Mannahnin wrote:
I've never seen him be an ass for the sake of being an ass. I've seen him be verbally abusive toward people, generally when they're doing stupid things, because that's his shtick (and that kind of domineering and loudmouthed personality is apparently not that rare among chefs, though maybe Monster Rain can correct me on that if I'm mistaken).


Oh no, in my experience it is extremely common. The thing about working in a kitchen is that time is always a consideration, so if you're doing something wrong that's holding everyone else up you will be told in a very succinct manner exactly what your problem is. Combine this with (and correct me if I'm wrong here) the fact that people in the UK are rather more liberal with profanity, and Gordon seems extreme by even those standards, and that's where a lot of his persona comes from.

Honestly though, it's the quiet chefs that unnerve me the most, though. I worked for a guy that would just stare you down and quietly explain why you're an idiot. It was like working for Roose Bolton.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 13:51:35


Post by: MrDwhitey


I always love the quiet ones.

When a man can reduce you to tears just by staring and speaking calmly, it is special.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 14:13:52


Post by: LordofHats


His US show is definitely much more on the dramatic side. I've only a seen a few episodes of his British version of the show but I liked them all.

Ramsey doesn't strike me as an ass for the sake of being an ass neither. I got that vibe off Simon Cowel sometimes, but not Ramsey. Ramsey tailors the way he speaks to people and watching some of his other shows it becomes very clear how perceptive a man he really is. He knows how to push people.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 22:55:07


Post by: MeanGreenStompa


Cowell should be sealed into a container and fired into the sun.

Ramsey, like Anne Robinson during her time over here on The Weakest Link, has obviously been told to ramp it up to 11 on the 'mean' scale and is doing so, unlike Robinson, his shtick seems to have won over a sizable viewer rating. So he has sold out, but he's making a fortune doing it, so fair enough really.

@ Monster Rain, I think profanity comes far more readily to Brits than Americans and not all of it bad, we also indulge in friendly insult that seemed utterly unheard of when I came to PA.

I know of several friends who'd greet me at the bar in my local with 'hello you orrible gakker' or 'alright you old fether' and it was a heartfelt greeting. You speak to someone like that in the states, even on knowing them well, and it's not well received/causes confusion.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/25 23:06:16


Post by: MrDwhitey


I think what really made me like Ramsay was when I saw him in other shows. These two clips are probably my favourites:

Spoiler:



Spoiler:




Amusingly both have James May in them.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/26 21:42:19


Post by: Fafnir


 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Cowell should be sealed into a container and fired into the sun.

Ramsey, like Anne Robinson during her time over here on The Weakest Link, has obviously been told to ramp it up to 11 on the 'mean' scale and is doing so, unlike Robinson, his shtick seems to have won over a sizable viewer rating. So he has sold out, but he's making a fortune doing it, so fair enough really.


I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the exaggerated persona quirks, at least on Kitchen Nightmares, come from the way they edit it in the North American version.

I also hate the sound design. That squealing noise that comes on whenever something even slightly wrong happens gets so annoying.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/27 17:26:37


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Fafnir wrote:
I love this woman.

If her husband gets deported you may be in with a chance


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/27 17:56:24


Post by: timetowaste85


 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Fafnir wrote:
I love this woman.

If her husband gets deported you may be in with a chance


Do you really want a wife that knows a worthless "foreign" language and have three kids that think it's okay to gak in a sandbox? Maybe you like soggy pizza. Regardless of which of these three facts are what drive you to want her, you may want to have your brain removed for careful study. I suggest getting a new one, while they're studying yours.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/27 19:22:11


Post by: Grey Templar


Looks like Monster Rain got a new job


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/05/27 19:28:48


Post by: Monster Rain


After our account got "hacked" we decided to try a different approach.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 06:46:45


Post by: Ouze


So, if you want to throw up in your mouth a little, read this article.

Article is SFW but the site I think is NSFW. I'm at work so I didn't browse around it to find out.

Pic unrelated



Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 09:02:14


Post by: Breotan


So, I was reading the article on Fark when I saw this phrase...

it was revealed that Amy is a convicted felon





Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 10:47:15


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Ouze wrote:
So, if you want to throw up in your mouth a little, read this article


For the work blocked and those who don't want to watch an ad to get to the content

Amy’s Baking Company owners Amy and Samy Bouzaglo are making the best of their nasty and embarrassing appearance on Gordon Ramsay‘s Kitchen Nightmares by capitalizing with their own reality TV show, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

The off-the-wall and loud-mouthed couple is currently entertaining several offers from production companies for their own show — and an insider tells Radar that Amy and Samy hope to seal the deal.

“Right now Cineflix is the most serious production company trying to secure Amy and Samy. They want to develop a show around their restaurant and their bad behavior,” the source revealed.

“Amy and Samy are all for it because they feel like it’s the only way to keep their restaurant open.”

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Amy and Samy’s appearance on Kitchen Nightmares was the most memorable in the show’s history, and after an onslaught of online hate mail and death threats directed towards the couple it was revealed that Amy is a convicted felon, Samy is currently facing deportation, the restaurant had a history of Health Department violations and business continues to fail — making them reality TV gold.

“Right now their agent is just looking out for them to make sure they get the best deal, so they want to wait on signing with Cineflix to make sure they’ve seen all the deals on the table,” the source told Radar.

“But no doubt, you will be seeing Amy and Samy on TV again sometime in the future. They need to generate money and publicity to keep their business going, otherwise customers just dropping in because of their Kitchen Nightmares appearance will fizzle and their restaurant will go under.”

The Scottsdale, Ariz. restaurant had a grand re-opening earlier this month that drew a crowd of onlookers eager to meet the kooky couple, but as Radar exclusively reported on Tuesday, it seems they haven’t changed much in terms of customer service.

“Never mind the slow, inexperienced staff, the tense atmosphere in the restaurant and the empty tables which made me wonder where the publicized 1,000 reservations were on a Friday night,” journalist Hayley Ringlewrote in the Phoenix Business Journal.

“There were bugs in one of our drinks. Well, three actually.

What do you think about Amy and Samy having their own reality TV show — would you watch?


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 12:11:56


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


The off-the-wall and loud-mouthed couple is currently entertaining several offers from production companies for their own show — and an insider tells Radar that Amy and Samy hope to seal the deal.




Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 12:39:33


Post by: LordofHats


People will do anything to be on TV. But seriously, those idiots? This is gonna be rich


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 13:51:03


Post by: Ouze


 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
For the work blocked and those who don't want to watch an ad to get to the content]


Thanks, I should have done that the first time. Derp.



Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 14:14:35


Post by: Dreadclaw69


 Ouze wrote:

Thanks, I should have done that the first time. Derp.


It's no problem. After being forced to watch an ad to read the content I thought I'd spare the rest of Dakka


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 18:53:05


Post by: Fafnir


Well, that killed the magic for me.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 19:07:47


Post by: azazel the cat


This show will fail. The popularity of that episode of Kitchen Nightmares was not the "kooky couple"; it was vicariously seeing the d-bags you've all worked for/with in the past have their feet held to the fire and their business fail.



And as a side note, I've never been a fan of the American version of Kitchen Nightmares, because I prefer to see Ramsey do what he's very, very good at: restaurant stuff (a technical term, I know). The American version instead spends all of its time focusing on "healing" the psyches of the owners, etc. Now, I hate Doctor Phil, so I really do not care to watch Gordon Ramsey act like him; striving towards that big emotional breakthrough about 40-45 minutes into the program, and then save the day. That's bs.


Maybe it isn't Romeo... maybe it's Arizona. @ 2013/06/01 20:01:08


Post by: LordofHats


Yeah. I've been watching the shows on Netflix and while I don't laugh as much watching the UK version of the show, it is a more interesting program. The people in the US version are hilariously stupid, but the UK version is a more insightful, at least in part because the format is reoriented towards the business, and the people are no where near as dumb..