Summary of Natfka's rumours:
- Tyranids (incl. plastic Hive Guard)
- Orks (incl plastic commandos)
- Dark Elves
- IG (incl. plastic Steel Legion and super heavy)
plus an Armageddon Supplement incl Steel Legion, Space Marine and Ork units
- Bretonnia
- Space Wolves
- New 9th Fantasy Edition (starter box Imperium vs. Orcs)
Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:November will be Nidvember; Plastic Hive Guard Box released (corrected)
March: Imperial Guard; three Plastic Kits for Steellegion & a Turretless Tank Kit, new Steellegion Character (no Yarrik!) Codex-Focus is Cadia & Armageddon
April: Breton Armybook
May: Space Wolves, there will be a 13th Great company & Thousand Sons Supplement parallel release near end of the Year Focus of the SW Supplement is the Fight again Tzeentch Forces
June: Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition with Empire vs. Orks & Goblins
Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Next Year Warhammer Fantasy 9.Edition will have Empire versus Orks & Goblins.
Imperial Guard will release in March 2014 with Steel Legion Plastic Kits and a new Superheavy Tank base on the Baneblade. Baneblade & all other Superheavies will be in the Codex.
Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:orks release in march.
(Yeah, obviously those last two contradict each other.)
Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:GW is planning a "re-release" of the 3rd edition Codex Armageddon! That will be a huge release for 40K "more than half a year away" according to my friend. It will include 5 supplements: Warzone Armageddon (scenarios), Supplement: Salamanders, Supplement: Steel Legion, Supplement: Ghazghull's Horde and Supplement: Orc Kult of Speed. Everything will be released in one wave.
Each supplement will be accompanied by a very limited number of new releases:
Salamanders - Special Terminator Squad combining Thunder Hammer and Storm Bolters (no shields). Has access to a special weapon that's a "pimped out mix of Heavy Flamer and Multi Melta"
Steel Legion - Griffon/Salamander combi kit, new Finecast characters
Ghazghull's Horde - Nobs in Mega Armour (Plastic), Orkimedes (Finecast)
Speed Freaks - War Buggy, Wazdakka Gutsmek (Plastic)
Keep in mind that the following includes examples not meant as rumours (see last sentence):
Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:There's merit to your rumor. However to poke some holes:
The Salamanders squad is for the pre-heresy book coming christmas. They're modified tartaros pattern terminators. Kind of like ornate "artificer" versions.
Imperial Guards will have access to all their tanks in plastic with the release of their new codex.
Nobz in Mega Armor and new War Buggies and Traks are getting new models with their new codex also.
Supplements will not be providing new model kits until after all of the 6th edition codexes are up to date. Furthermore, if a new unit is introduced, it will be available to the core codex as well.
Example 1) An update of an old kit that is the center of the supplement:a new khorne berserker kit alongside a World Eater's supplement. This kit, while a targeted release, is still available to any Chaos Player.
Example 2) If it introduces an entirely new unit that has previously never had rules, it would specifically say that it's an XYZ option for the parent dex: A new breed of tyranid, with some cool rules in a Hive Fleet supplement. While it may be a troops choice for the supplement army, it is also a Fast Attack (or something) choice for the parent codex.
The Supplements will often introduce new ways to configure units. Either with different wargear, size of squad, force organization position, dedicated transport options, or cool army rules
Example: Supplement: "Hammer of Dorn," not simply Supplement: "Imperial Fists," this supplement could hark back towards the 4th edition Space Marine Codex. Fluff wise this book would talk about Lysander's specific fleet and methodology. Rules wise it would make Assault Terminators Elites, and Shooting Termiantors Heavy Support, while making you roll once for all terminators to enter from deep strike, and would do so with a reduced scatter. This would create a very specialized force, one that would be illegal normally (up to 6 terminator squads), alongside some unique rules (deep strike at once, reduced scatter), and would probably inspire some new armies to be made centered around it, but it's still not giving Imperial Fist only models that make people feel pigeon holed into a specific codex or colour scheme, etc.
The idea here is that people shouldn't feel like they have to get a supplement. Anything that's in a supplement, they have access to (model wise). No one is left out.
I hope that makes sense, it was a bit of a rant.
P.S. while new khorne berserkers are on the menu to be reviewed, there's no new tyranid supplement unit, or a supplement for "Hammer of Dorn," those were just to illustrate my point.
Don't really buy these rumors.
Nids in Nov with Hive guard in plastic, OK, possible.
Hobbit in December with holiday stuff? Sure.
January as Orks? Don't see it. That would stack 40K releases with no fantasy in between, That and 2 xenos stacked followed by 2 Imperium stacked seems odd. Plastic Kommandoes seems plausable, but plasticwarboss kit would mean a return to multi-part plastic HQs. And other kits are needed/would sell more- Meganobz, Buggies/Trakks, potentially Squiggoth as a big MC, Deffkoptas.
IG with Steel Legion focus? Why do 3 plastic kits (I would assume infantry, command, heavy weapon box) for a new regiment and a new superheavy when there are still a number of kits that need plastic models period?- Hydra, Griffon, Medusa, Colossus. And a new superheavy on the Baneblade chassis? Only weapon fits left are the Stormsword with plasma blastgun and potentially inferno blastgun. And why add a new kit when they just merged the baneblade and shodowsword kit? And Baneblades and variants in the codex? Will they add Superheavy rules for it in the codex as well? And what about the 10" main gun? Or the D Weapon on the Shadowsword. And what slot(s) would it take up?
The "rerelease of Armageddon" is also odd, as 4 supplements at once, and a warzone that is already contained in the Apoc rulebook.
Only rumor I put weight on is the last one posted. And why won't Faeit give some sort of differentiating pseudonyms to the various anonymous sources so we can tell the real posters from the junk?
A new plastic regiment for Guard would be nice, but I can't see it happeneing until they run out completely of kits to make. 6th edition codices tend to have 4-5 plastic kits, and that alone would eat up over half. They also are adamant about getting everything released in some form, and Guard have more than enough missing to release.
-Loki- wrote: A new plastic regiment for Guard would be nice, but I can't see it happeneing until they run out completely of kits to make. 6th edition codices tend to have 4-5 plastic kits, and that alone would eat up over half. They also are adamant about getting everything released in some form, and Guard have more than enough missing to release.
IG need new plastics dreadfully though. Their proportions are pretty bad. I wish they'd make Mordians, but we all know that would never happen.
or a way to generate a ton of money. I dont see a need to give any of the current guard armies an updated model. Nothing says MOAR money like new sexy models
Ever since the Wraithknight came out, I've been expecting the IG codex to have the Baneblade in it. Knights are already Epic units, the Baneblade isn't much of a stretch after that, and, in all honesty, as long as it doesn't have D weapons, a 525pt tank with a big blast is hardly overpowered at most normal play levels (yeah, the tank is scary, but at 500something points good luck fitting much else in if you want more than one, in which case you're better off just taking 3 LRBT's anyway). I'd rather this not be true, the Baneblade has long been the archetypal IG "Apocalypse" unit, but it would surprise me more at this point if the tank were not in the codex than if it were.
Vaktathi wrote: Ever since the Wraithknight came out, I've been expecting the IG codex to have the Baneblade in it. Knights are already Epic units, the Baneblade isn't much of a stretch after that, and, in all honesty, as long as it doesn't have D weapons, a 525pt tank with a big blast is hardly overpowered at most normal play levels (yeah, the tank is scary, but at 500something points good luck fitting much else in if you want more than one, in which case you're better off just taking 3 LRBT's anyway). I'd rather this not be true, the Baneblade has long been the archetypal IG "Apocalypse" unit, but it would surprise me more at this point if the tank were not in the codex than if it were.
Well, with the Warzones etc, it looks like GW have at least a thought of a plan to support Apocalypse beyond gaking out the book, going "buy it now!" and walking away.
So it stands to reason that a plastic Superheavy doesn't need to feature in the codex to get released, especially as all signs point to the fact that GW are now a one trick pony in essence, and a big push towards Apoc would certainly be one way to try and keep people spending.
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.
Saldiven wrote: Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.
Agreed, but neither of those guys have said anything in a fair few months with regard to releases to my knowledge. I believe it has been known for GW to move release dates around, so while I would still trust H+H primarily, there's room for doubt in this instance.
Unless either one is lurking and fancies dropping a hint?
Saldiven wrote: Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future.
It's the inclusion of the Bretonnians that make me suspicious of these rumors. If they're released before 2015, I'll be stunned and amazed.
or a way to generate a ton of money. I dont see a need to give any of the current guard armies an updated model. Nothing says MOAR money like new sexy models
The problem is it's plastic greatcoat IG. It seems thows guys have been "right around the cornor" as long as plastic thunderhawks. Sadly I wouldn't hold my breath.
Saldiven wrote: Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future.
It's the inclusion of the Bretonnians that make me suspicious of these rumors. If they're released before 2015, I'll be stunned and amazed.
Really? I was dubious as soon as I read 'plastic steel legion'. Every upcoming Guard release says there's going to be new plastic infantry, generally Greatcoat. This time it's Greatcoat with Gasmasks. It never happens.
Don't believe because of the Bretonnians. From an associate who talked with upper management at the GW Memphis office, Bretonnians and Wood Elves are not currently being worked on or played in the design studios. The source added though that it was 3 months since he was in the UK and interacting with the studio. They may have been in preliminary development and not seeing any/little test play yet. They also stated it was a two year cycle from a designer picking up an army to it being released.
And just to give you an idea, the design studio still works on the "only choosing armies that interest them" principal.
Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Next Year Warhammer Fantasy 9.Edition will have Empire versus Orks & Goblins.
Imperial Guard will release in March 2014 with Steel Legion Plastic Kits and a new Superheavy Tank base on the Baneblade. Baneblade & all other Superheavies will be in the Codex.
Anonymous source on faeit212 wroterks release in march.
(Yeah, obviously those last two contradict each other.)
Yes, obviously. This is the throw everything against the wall so that something is bound to stick approach to posting release rumors. If one says enough things are to be released in a given month one of them will surely turn out to be correct. It seems we're going to have to wait for more leaks from reliable sources before being able to count on any of these release predictions.
silent25 wrote: And just to give you an idea, the design studio still works on the "only choosing armies that interest them" principal.
Which is really awesome when you're a customer wanting to get into one of GW's games and just happen to pick one of the dozens of armies they produce that no one in the studio cares about anymore. Especially when they're all equally expensive to play.
Don't worry Sid, sooner or later one of those much maligned moneymen with go an kick some design studio arse and get gak done....but not for SoBs, never SoB.
Saldiven wrote: Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future.
It's the inclusion of the Bretonnians that make me suspicious of these rumors. If they're released before 2015, I'll be stunned and amazed.
Really? I was dubious as soon as I read 'plastic steel legion'. Every upcoming Guard release says there's going to be new plastic infantry, generally Greatcoat. This time it's Greatcoat with Gasmasks. It never happens.
Oh, I think it could happen eventually. But I'm skeptical about it during a phase characterized by a limited number of new boxes at release, and almost no new boxes for anything with an existing plastic kit. Wouldn't Steel Legion require at least three new kits on its own...infantry box, heavy weapons box, command box? You'd think GW would rather focus on the missing vehicles and Finecast conversions for some of the elites, etc. Heck, have they recut the Catachan kits yet? That would seem to be a higher priority too.
Also, most reliable signs have pointed to Brets being farther away. Natfka probably has some good sources, but it's hard to know which rumors come from the good ones. Note that I don't have a problem with him just posting rumors as he receives them. One of the things that drove me crazy about Warseer was its obsession with "true rumors." Which basically means they ignore or put down anything that doesn't come from the same handful of people, because how do you know?
Saldiven wrote: Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.
Vaktathi wrote: Ever since the Wraithknight came out, I've been expecting the IG codex to have the Baneblade in it. Knights are already Epic units, the Baneblade isn't much of a stretch after that, and, in all honesty, as long as it doesn't have D weapons, a 525pt tank with a big blast is hardly overpowered at most normal play levels (yeah, the tank is scary, but at 500something points good luck fitting much else in if you want more than one, in which case you're better off just taking 3 LRBT's anyway). I'd rather this not be true, the Baneblade has long been the archetypal IG "Apocalypse" unit, but it would surprise me more at this point if the tank were not in the codex than if it were.
I would think they would make a 'medium-large' tank between Russ and Baneblade size for regular 40k. Maybe 4 or 5 Hull points, good armour, Land Raider+ points value.
GW generally don't put existing models from Apoc or FW into their codices, though the IG codex was the exception.
That, or an actual Knight Titan (which the Wraithknight is in the class of).
If one of the 'big' kits is going from Apoc to a normal Codex unit, I would probably guess the Stompa rather than the Baneblade, especially as the Baneblade kit now has the parts for the D-Weapon loadouts.
How is it 'so quickly'? Recent history is every 4 years. 8th edition was released in July 2010. That's no rush because of a failed edition; that's standard practice at this point.
So what is coming out in October then? He has been saying for months that Dark Elves are October. Super disappointed right now. And having 9th come out so soon? Nah.
Adding plastic to current range? (Karskin for example) People buy what? A box or two? Maybe?
New troops box? LOTS more sales. Even people already owning armies would be tempted to redo their entire force in modern tooled plastics. Sales sales sales.
Saldiven wrote: Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.
Agreed! This is salty, as are all Faeit rumors.
Yeah, I want to be optimistic here but when you're wrong more than half the time...
MWHistorian wrote: If these three things show up on a rumor list, you know its false. 1. Plastic Steel Legion 2. Bretonian anything. 3. Sisters of Battle anything.
Ahem...
Spoiler:
From Big Red's Tracker: Releases - Oct 2011 Sisters in WD Summer 2011 TRUE
From Tastytaste's tracker: Sisters - June 2011 Allies gone TRUE Inquisition gone TRUE Faith streamlined TRUE USRs updated to 5th TRUE Cheaper Unit costs TRUE It is replaced with every unit has its own unit specific act of faith to call upon. TRUE So for instance Repentia Act of Faith allows them to always land an attack even if they are killed before they can swing. TRUE They are little bonuses like re-rolling to wound and hit, no USRs. FALSE Now this if fine and dandy if you just pop a faith point and bam! power goes off, but not so fast. Acts of Faith require that you roll 5+ to activate . TRUE In addition every unit that can get faith generates 1d6 faith points per turn. FALSE This also means that a new faith pool is generated each turn with no storing of past faith. TRUE As well faith can be activated in multiple phases of the game, so for instance you can re-roll to hit in your shooting phase or in your assault phase. TRUE All Faith generating units get +6 invul save TRUE All units that can get transports get Immolators or Rhinos TRUE Assassins gone (Death Cult still in) TRUE Wargear with the same names as GK wargear stay and get changed over. (e.g. Psybolt Ammo) TRUE Karamazov gone TRUE Priests in, pretty much same as before. TRUE No change to the general Bolter, Melta, Flame concept of the Sisters TRUE Sisters have about 5 HQ choices including Special Characters TRUE St. Celestine: Same price as a Grand Master you get 2+/+4 saves, WS/BS 7 Jump Pack, Fleet, Power Weapons always wounds on 4+ Has the power to come back like GK Thawn if killed. TRUE Confessor: Takes the slot of the old Inquisitors. Cheap HQ (Warboss). Can create a henchman band using most of the henchman found in the GK codex. What makes the Confessor extra deadly is the ability for it to re-roll hits and wounds for her and the squad. This is the translation of the rumor matrix. So think for one second about her and the Death Cult together? TRUE Repentia: Cheaper close to SM cost. FNP, Rage, Fearless, 6+ invul, no transports TRUE Battle Sister Squad: Cheaper 10-20 unit size (no combat squads), but has access to Immolators which begs the question… Immolators either get increased transport capacity or Sisters break the rules concerning model count and buying transports. Multiple acts of faith. TRUE Exocists: Pretty much same as before. TRUE
Sisters 2 - June 2011 What is not in the Codex Repressors TRUE Arbites TRUE The Units (more information than others) Canoness: Here is my special shout out to the Canoness: you are terrible. I mean grossly underpowered. Now this is going to sound like a cop-op, but I am not going into details because my hope is that she will be changed before release. It just sounds and looks like she is an unfinished product. She gets her own retinue that cannot do anything; she starts out cheap, but her upgrades are expensive and lame when you compare to everything else. So here is hoping to GW getting her fixed. TRUE Repentia: Forgot to mention they have fleet TRUE Celastians: Cheaper than a Marine, but not really anything going for them (that I know of)… extra attack. Re-roll hits for act of faith TRUE Sister Battle Squad: Can still get a Heavy Flamer TRUE Shraphim: They are pretty amazing. Cheaper than a Space Marine you get a Jump Packing, Hit and Running, and an act of faith that has them re-rolling wounds. You can also upgrade them to run with double hand flamers and melta pistols. They act both as an extra close combat weapon and become assault 2 instead of being twin-linked. So that means Assault 2 melta weapons. TRUE Dominion Squads: Still get 4 special weapons. Act of Faith twin-linked. TRUE Retributor Squads: Pretty fantastic. CHEAP! Talking under Long Fang cheap to fully kit out. Expect the return of the Heavy Bolter with these. Act of Faith is Rending. TRUE Penitent Engines: Again fantastic. Same statline (Walker). No Scout or Infiltrate. Cheaper and can be a squadron aka 9 Engines. They still get the 1D6 attacks, but any wounds generate additional attacks (don’t know if they work like Blood Talons). 6+ Invul (don’t know if they generate faith)" TRUE
Strange new tanks for the imperial guard. I was hoping for the griffon, medusa etc. The tanks that are in the codex but not in plastic. Just the griffon and the odd choice of a salamander is a bit out of left field. Perhaps the salamander is supposed to be the turretless tank?
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Warhammer 40.000
Steellegion will become a redesign, the models will wear "M35 Stahlhelms". There will be Boxes with Soldiers, Command and Heavy Weapons. The Turretless Tank Rumour means a Thunderer / Destroyer Kit. There will be vanilla Strom troopers too.
Imperial Guard & Orks could switch they release dates of January / March.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think he's being trolled again.
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Warhammer 40.000
Steellegion will become a redesign, the models will wear "M35 Stahlhelms". There will be Boxes with Soldiers, Command and Heavy Weapons. The Turretless Tank Rumour means a Thunderer / Destroyer Kit. There will be vanilla Strom troopers too.
Imperial Guard & Orks could switch they release dates of January / March.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think he's being trolled again.
Clearly, as such a release would be extremely profitable, and we all know GW does not, in fact, like money.
Instead I wholly expect DreadSentinel, Finecast Stormtroopers and re-desined Catachans with more muscles.
Imperial Guards will have access to all their tanks in plastic with the release of their new codex.
Nobz in Mega Armor and new War Buggies and Traks are getting new models with their new codex also.
Supplements will not be providing new model kits until after all of the 6th edition codexes are up to date. Furthermore, if a new unit is introduced, it will be available to the core codex as well.
The Supplements will often introduce new ways to configure units. Either with different wargear, size of squad, force organization position, dedicated transport options, or cool army rules
The idea here is that people shouldn't feel like they have to get a supplement. Anything that's in a supplement, they have access to (model wise). No one is left out.
Thats the part of this set of rumors I can believe.
All Units in codices. Different configs and a few pieces of wargear in supplements makes sense. GW sells you "add-ons" ...
Does anyone think GW would run a store without the books to field the minis they plan to sell you? Can't see them dedicating lots of shelf space to supplements. So supplements stay direct only...yes?
New plastic IG units would be the only thing I would be interested in from GW. I would buy a command squad and a squad or two without a second thought.
I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.
pretre wrote: How is it 'so quickly'? Recent history is every 4 years. 8th edition was released in July 2010. That's no rush because of a failed edition; that's standard practice at this point.
That's true. My mistake. Had 8th coming out later than 2010 in my mind.
40kFSU wrote: I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.
For a few players, but when troops, command squads, and heavy weapons are the same, Cadians, Catachans, and a new regiment would be effectively interchangeable in sales. If you buy Cadians, you don't need Catachan or Steel Legion models.
And 3 kits is a lot for a release. What else could those 3 kits get us besides a third version of basic troops? Stormtroopers/Carapace vets/kasrkin. Griffon/Salamander. Hydra. Basilisk/Medusa/Colossus. Roughriders. Ogryn.
That said, if they do Steel legion, they could really boost sales by including female guard on the sprue.
40kFSU wrote: I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.
The issue is it doesn't fit 6th edition release methods, which tend to be releasing any missing kits from 5th edition, moving a unit or two to plastic, and adding a couple of new units (usually a flyer and/or an oval base walker). Three new basic infantry kits isn't something we've seen since the Dark Eldar/Necron/Grey Knights releases in 5th, and those were complete line overhauls. Guard also still have a decent amount of stuff that needs releasing to fill up a 6th edition codex release wave.
40kFSU wrote: I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.
The issue is it doesn't fit 6th edition release methods, which tend to be releasing any missing kits from 5th edition, moving a unit or two to plastic, and adding a couple of new units (usually a flyer and/or an oval base walker). Three new basic infantry kits isn't something we've seen since the Dark Eldar/Necron/Grey Knights releases in 5th, and those were complete line overhauls. Guard also still have a decent amount of stuff that needs releasing to fill up a 6th edition codex release wave.
The one thing that lends credence to the rumour is that the Guard infantry are, quite frankly, awful models. Cadians are passable, but Catachans are absolutely horrid. Catachans are also some of the oldest plastixs still in production, are they not? GW did re-release the Tactical kit, redone and spiffy (or rather will), that leaves some room for old kits to theoretically get updated. They may opt to remove the Catachans if the molds are near the end of their life, and make something completely new instead. Guard has had a few different aesthetics, they're nowhere near as fixed as other factions.
I don't think it's probable, or even likely, but it is possible. More likely a second wave once the other codexes are done, however, as Guard is, as you say, lacking a lot of their listed models, probably more than any other at present save perhaps Orks. They certainly have the most metal after Sisters still. A lot will need replacing over the next while.
I definitely understand your points about releases and established players not needing new models. In fact, you guys are also probably right. I was just thinking no matter how many cool new tanks, special characters, or elite units get kits, they are still Catachan or Cadian. I think a new line would create more interest. You have people willing to pay ridiculous sums for the old Mordians, Praetorians, Tallarn, Valhallan, on eBay. I know I am one of them.
MajorStoffer wrote: Catachans are also some of the oldest plastixs still in production, are they not? GW did re-release the Tactical kit, redone and spiffy (or rather will), that leaves some room for old kits to theoretically get updated. They may opt to remove the Catachans if the molds are near the end of their life, and make something completely new instead. Guard has had a few different aesthetics, they're nowhere near as fixed as other factions.
Tactical marines are old (1998 with a recut in 2004) and getting replaced, but are a core choice for the most popular faction that can also be used by 2 other books, potentially by 2 more at least as parts.
Catachans are a single unit for a single army, and if they withdrew them and replaced them, you would have a weird mess with the much newer Catachan HW team and essentially brand new Catachan command squad being out of place without a troop box.
A guard regiment in plastic now is basically made up of 3 linked plastic kits. You end up with odd results if you try to remove one kit of the three, and honestly there are far more things that need new or replaced kits before Catachans.
IG Codex. It would be interesting to see them get the Space Marine Treatment. Characters and rules being Army Dependent.
Catachan Vets get +1WS while Cadian Vets get +1BS. Cadians get Move Through Cover while Catachans get Stealth.
Only a Catachan Army can take Harker, Marbo, etc, while Cadians get Creed, Pask, Bastonne, etc.
If you take the Unique HQs (Straken, Al'Rahem, Yarrick, etc) then you are tied to specific USRs for your Army and can't take any of the Special Sgt characters.
No more Creed 24" orders with Yarrick's Ld10 bubble.
IG Supplements forthcoming with unique characters and units to create themed IG armies from those SCs.
Now is we can only get some effen models for our Dex choices.
I am really excited about the possibility of plastic Steel Legion. While I have my doubts (Reduce sales of DKOK on FW) the time table does make sense.
A Armageddon video game is set to come out Q1 of 2014. Also the Steel Legion metal range more or less disappeared from the GW website. (It is still possible to find via searching through alternative means)
While extremely exciting, I just spent like $400.00 on the metal range under the impression they would be gone forever. If the new mini's look amazing I will Time will tell I guess.
Commissar Benny wrote: I am really excited about the possibility of plastic Steel Legion. While I have my doubts (Reduce sales of DKOK on FW) the time table does make sense.
A Armageddon video game is set to come out Q1 of 2014. Also the Steel Legion metal range more or less disappeared from the GW website. (It is still possible to find via searching through alternative means)
While extremely exciting, I just spent like $400.00 on the metal range under the impression they would be gone forever. If the new mini's look amazing I will Time will tell I guess.
Trust in your doubts. 3 plastic kits would eat massively into the sprue budget which already needs to cover a number of units without GW models so far.
Jidmah wrote: Meh, I find it hard to believe that someone knows GW's most guarded secrets but doesn't know the difference between Orks and Orcs.
that is needlessly pedantic. Judge the source on whether or not what he says is true, not on his spelling or knowledge of gw ip (ie confusing the empire with imperium, which mean the same thing anyway)
Also in defense of plastic Steel Legion is that Guard already have a plastic flyer and super heavy. The remaining tanks could easily be done in combined sprues for the already existing hulls.
What remains unplasticed is practically ignorable. stormtroopers are outclassed by vets. Ogryns, ratings and rough riders are all casual at best. Unless they massively fix the weak units in the codex, new troops would generate more sales then anything. Guard armies need s lot of troops after all.
I think GW missed an opportunity when doing Ogre Kingdoms, some good sculpting and sprues could've had dual use molds for an Ogryn box.
Assuming these rumours are true, since metal models for the ASL already exist, GW should have devoted resources to making plastic models for a different guard group. Plastic ASL is just so wrong! The Armegeddon STEEL Legion should stay metal! I mean, it's in their NAME for crying out loud!
(...besides maybe that first sentence, I'm not sure I'm serious)
TiamatRoar wrote: Assuming these rumours are true, since metal models for the ASL already exist, GW should have devoted resources to making plastic models for a different guard group. Plastic ASL is just so wrong! The Armegeddon STEEL Legion should stay metal! I mean, it's in their NAME for crying out loud!
(...besides maybe that first sentence, I'm not sure I'm serious)
I hope you're joking. Those models are beautiful, but a pain to deal with since they're metal.
I could see the Baneblade making it into the IG Codex. Just call it a second (or third) generation Baneblade, with a normal battle cannon on the turret, less hull points, and having to choose between firing the battle cannon or the demolisher cannon.
I just want the proper Vanquisher cannon back with it's two firing options (and the coaxial stormbolter would be nice, too).
I need gasmasks and trenchcoats in my army, my only problem is that DKoK is too expensive. I would buy a lot of steel legion if they ever came in plastic. Too bad that these rumous sound extremely unlikely.
Armageddon Rumors - August 2013
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
there are no Catachans in sight, the Codex will Focus Armageddone and Cadia. The Ork Codex will Focus Armageddon and the Relationship to the Imperium of Mankind.
I think Goffs & Blood Axes will become the first Suppliments. Codex Orks comes with a Blood Axes Suppliment.
The suppliment allowed Kommadoz as Troop-Choice und Alliance with Imperial Guard.
dkellyj wrote: IG Codex. It would be interesting to see them get the Space Marine Treatment. Characters and rules being Army Dependent.
Catachan Vets get +1WS while Cadian Vets get +1BS. Cadians get Move Through Cover while Catachans get Stealth.
Only a Catachan Army can take Harker, Marbo, etc, while Cadians get Creed, Pask, Bastonne, etc.
If you take the Unique HQs (Straken, Al'Rahem, Yarrick, etc) then you are tied to specific USRs for your Army and can't take any of the Special Sgt characters.
No more Creed 24" orders with Yarrick's Ld10 bubble.
IG Supplements forthcoming with unique characters and units to create themed IG armies from those SCs.
Now is we can only get some effen models for our Dex choices.
If by "interesting" you mean "an absolutely horrifying idea that GW should never, ever, ever try", then yes I agree with you. If people want GW to take away our ability to counts-as, then they damn well better make generic HQs worth taking and give generic armies a way to change things up in the same way as the named regiments, because otherwise they're just doing the same thing they have with Marines - stunting people's creativity and options.
Aw man, still no signs of life in the Sisters. Dammit GW! However the list of new edition codexes to be released is getting shorter...we must get to them eventually, right?
Still, my bro plays Orks, so the possibility of a new codex and plastic crack will please him.
Doubt it is gonna be empire vs orcs in the 9th ed kit. They have done that already before. I hope they will make it wood elves or bretts or beastmen as they are the armies that are in painful need of an update.
Also thought Dwarves were getting done early next year....
Son of Landuin wrote: Doubt it is gonna be empire vs orcs in the 9th ed kit. They have done that already before. I hope they will make it wood elves or bretts or beastmen as they are the armies that are in painful need of an update.
Mix it up! Wood Elves vs Beastmen! They hate each other anyway.
Don't get me wrong, if there were plastic steel legion, i'd replace all my Cadians in a heartbeat (I've got two squads of the metal ones, but they're kind of a pain in the arse), but there's too many reasons for GW to not do them.
They made the decision not to axe them with the rest of the specialist/collector stuff (along with Cypher and a few other doo-dads), so if they're keeping the metals around for the time being, the only change-over we'd see is Finecast, with all the attendant horror and price jump. Furthermore, they bear a strong aesthetic similarity to the Death Korps, which is one of FW's best selling products (the half a platoon to my left stands as testimony to that). GW is irrationlly paranoid at taking sales away from their own different branches, and while plastic overcoat/gasmask guys are what Guard players have been asking for since the Goodwin sketches appeared back in the 90s, GW doesn't want to kill their subsidiary's chief money maker, especially when FW and BL are currently the divisions driving growth in the company.
I suspect we'll see a new plastic Guard variant after the codexes have been updated, whether that be re-done Catachans or Cadians I couldn't say, but they're old designs which haven't aged well, and there's plenty of aesthetic niches with the Guard that haven't been filled. It's just not sensical to believe that'll happen with the main release when Stormtroopers, Ratlings, Ogryn, Rough Riders, Medusae, Bombards, Griffons, Hydras, Veterans and Penal Legion all still lack models. Precedent says we should expect a plastic Stormtrooper/veteran dual kit, an artillery multi-kit (basilisk remains unavailable for order for independent retailers), Hydra, and then the finecast treatment for the other metals (regimental advisers, ratlings, ogryn, standard commissars), with a plastic character or two, likely a commissar and captain.
Guard need a bit more done with them than most, especially given the prevalence of metal in the line still, so troop re-dos, while doubtlessly needed, are not the priority as of yet, when just getting the army "modernized" in basic kit production will already make it a larger-than-average release.
This thread begs the question: Would current FW sales of any of their models or lines be more than the sales of that model in plastic?
If GW loves money above all else, eventually you would sell what people want in plastic. FW has the freedom to do what they choose. Take one model or line away (especially an older one) and they can move onto something else.
PS And honestly the whole DKoK argument is invalid before you even get your mouth open. If that was the case, GW would have stopped selling the metal ASL models a long time ago to force more sales towards FW.
Their are plenty of great coat, gas masked, Germanesque aftermarket models that sell for much less than a standard Cadian 10 man box.
If GW releases Steel Legion WITHOUT any troop models to back it up, they will get eaten alive by the aftermarket folks.
And after the ChapterHouse ruling They won't have much of a leg to stand on in regards to telling a company to stop producing their already esablished models because of a Codex they just released.
By the time GW gets their heads out of their butts and puts out a troop model, the market will be saturated and except for a few character models no one wil be paying GWs price.
I can see steel legion getting released to resurect the old Armored Company Armies, only using gray painted Cadians as their trooper models.
Regardless, a new edition would help... hopefully with a balanced approach to rules where big units can do well, but are not invincible (i.e. flanking removes steadfast, done, call it 9th ed ).
RiTides wrote: Regardless, a new edition would help... hopefully with a balanced approach to rules where big units can do well, but are not invincible (i.e. flanking removes steadfast, done, call it 9th ed ).
timetowaste85 wrote: Doesn't Ward hate Greenskins? This doesn't bode well for Ork players...I hope Faeit is wrong for your sakes.
It's been a rumor for a while now, and the response I've seen has been "Oh no! Ward! He's going to murder our Grots and amazing kans!" and "Hey, Orks are totally gruesome and awesome, maybe Ward's good for Orks!" So hopefully it's in between those.
pretre wrote: via an Anonymous source on Faeit 212
40k Codex Authors:
Imperial Guard: Vetock
Orks: Ward
Fantasy Army Book Authors:
Bretons: Kelly
Dark Elves: Cruddace
It's orks, so any over the top fluff fits right in. Not that that will stop the Ward haters from complaining.
And I'm happier about Vetock doing Guard, if true. Tau were very well done, with strong elements, nothing completely useless (though some things are situational) and rather good internal balance.
streamdragon wrote: The bret book is 9 years old. It's the oldest army book or codex currently.
And is much more playable than the WE book. Currently a friend of mine is dominating a local 1000pt fantasy tournament, that includes tabling almost every one of the newest fantasy books. Just because the bret book is older, doesn't mean it's worse, some of the best untis for brets are undercosted (Trebouchets) meanwhile wood elves are paying 12 points per model for basic core choices.
Kroothawk wrote: Summary of Natfka's rumours:
February: Dark Elves Armybook
Any further information on this? Perhaps some plastic witches? A revival of the manflayers? Plastic Dark Riders? I'd really like to be able to flesh out my army of Khane and my pirate list.
Kroothawk wrote: Summary of Natfka's rumours:
February: Dark Elves Armybook
Any further information on this? Perhaps some plastic witches? A revival of the manflayers? Plastic Dark Riders? I'd really like to be able to flesh out my army of Khane and my pirate list.
Natfka says:
Cruddace
Larry Vela says:
Spoiler:
Dark Elf Rumors - July 2013
Look for many new Dark Elf models on launch, focusing on those "that needed it" *hint, hint*
I would assume "that need it" means:
Executioners PENDING Black Guard PENDING Witch Elves PENDING Cauldron of Blood PENDING Chariot PENDING Warriors/Crossbowmen PENDING
And I saved the best for last:
Morathi PENDING
Valkyrie Sky says:
Spoiler:
Dark Elf Rumors - July 2013
Sure I can contribute, Exexutioner and Black Guard share same kit, with black guards having alternate caped back piece, head, and halberd. PENDING The weapons are almost interchangeable without any work done no matter what torso you use for the body yes even if 2 handed. PENDING
My speculation is there will be no new manticore as chaos already received a new plastic one during storm of chaos. SPECULATION
Lastly regarding Cauldron of Blood. It is a hybrid kit with old witch Elf element for 1 build. While the new variation is like Empire War Altar. PENDING It has a special aura similar to EOTG called ??? blades that is like a whirl wind of magic blades that damage surrounding enemies emitted by khain's hatred. PENDING
Zeipherer says:
Spoiler:
Dark Elf Rumors - July 2013
Dark Elves are due in October 2013, it is said be a complete new book and not just a wave PENDING New elite infantry kit, possibly witch elves, executioners or black guards.PENDING (If new witch elves, there will most definitely be a new Cauldron of Blood piece) PENDING
Rumors I've heard:
New large monster type, probably 150x100 base type. Though could be anything, a kit of options to build a hydra, manticore or other monster types.PENDING Plastic harpy kit with two options, neither of which have been specified except it is harpy related. PENDING
azreal13 wrote: I'll go on record now, the only way you'll ever see me playing Fantasy is if they pull a "Dark Eldar" on the Brettonian and Wood Elf ranges.
Not to say there aren't some great models in the range already, but we're talking a total, eye wateringly beautiful overhaul of the whole ranges.
Fingers crossed, but I don't hold out much hope, despite the potential I think are in both armies.
Uh... what? They did give Wood Elves and Bretonnia the "Dark Eldar" treatment, but it was before the Dark Eldar even got it.
Every model the WE have except for the Dragon and the eagles (I think) were brand new when they had their last release. Also, if you don't like how WE look now, then I think you should just never plan on playing them.
Same thing for Bretonnia. Other than a few characters and the yeomen, everything was new for their previous release.
I'd say there's no way in Hell Pit that GW gives Bretonnia and Wood Elves the "Dark Eldar" treatment AGAIN. I think you can safely uncross your figures and give up all hope.
azreal13 wrote: I'll go on record now, the only way you'll ever see me playing Fantasy is if they pull a "Dark Eldar" on the Brettonian and Wood Elf ranges.
Not to say there aren't some great models in the range already, but we're talking a total, eye wateringly beautiful overhaul of the whole ranges.
Fingers crossed, but I don't hold out much hope, despite the potential I think are in both armies.
At this point people should be ecstatic that we have bretonnians scheduled.
azreal13 wrote: I'll go on record now, the only way you'll ever see me playing Fantasy is if they pull a "Dark Eldar" on the Brettonian and Wood Elf ranges.
Not to say there aren't some great models in the range already, but we're talking a total, eye wateringly beautiful overhaul of the whole ranges.
Fingers crossed, but I don't hold out much hope, despite the potential I think are in both armies.
Uh... what? They did give Wood Elves and Bretonnia the "Dark Eldar" treatment, but it was before the Dark Eldar even got it.
Every model the WE have except for the Dragon and the eagles (I think) were brand new when they had their last release. Also, if you don't like how WE look now, then I think you should just never plan on playing them.
Same thing for Bretonnia. Other than a few characters and the yeomen, everything was new for their previous release.
I'd say there's no way in Hell Pit that GW gives Bretonnia and Wood Elves the "Dark Eldar" treatment AGAIN. I think you can safely uncross your figures and give up all hope.
Settle down there sport, don't get so excited.
Firstly, I don't play, as one could infer from my opening statement, so I'm not intimately acquainted with the model ranges, only that I've seen some I like, and some I don't.
Secondly, aren't both of the ranges now approaching the age DE were when they got their massive overhaul? Irrespective of whether they were new when the last update occurred, a lot of the models are still quite old.
But I do agree, I'm not expecting much, as the attitude seems to be "release new, old will do" when it comes to updates these days (new Marine release being somewhat of an exception) I just think its a shame that the two factions that I feel could be amongst the most spectacular that GW make, are just the usual mix of good bad and ugly.
Firstly, I don't play, as one could infer from my opening statement, so I'm not intimately acquainted with the model ranges, only that I've seen some I like, and some I don't.
Secondly, aren't both of the ranges now approaching the age DE were when they got their massive overhaul? Irrespective of whether they were new when the last update occurred, a lot of the models are still quite old.
But I do agree, I'm not expecting much, as the attitude seems to be "release new, old will do" when it comes to updates these days (new Marine release being somewhat of an exception) I just think its a shame that the two factions that I feel could be amongst the most spectacular that GW make, are just the usual mix of good bad and ugly.
Fair enough. Sorry if I came off aggressively, I think it came out worse than I intended.
It just really surprised me because I remember when those ranges came out, the response was mostly very positive and I think they are two of GWs better ranges still (other than a few stinkers, like treekin/treeman and some didn't like how the new Bretonnian footmen look).
Considering that they got so many updates last time, I think they are extremely unlikely to get them again. GW seems to be in money saving mode. I think the most you can hope for is a big monster and some sort of dual unit kit... which I doubt will entice you into playing.
Red Viper wrote: Considering that they got so many updates last time, I think they are extremely unlikely to get them again. GW seems to be in money saving mode. I think the most you can hope for is a big monster and some sort of dual unit kit... which I doubt will entice you into playing.
I agree also as the Bretonnians and Wood elves both have the full range and don't require any "old" models to b released only re-released and both have reasonably small ranges that have been out a while i can see GW pushing new stuff MORE?!?
Firstly, I don't play, as one could infer from my opening statement, so I'm not intimately acquainted with the model ranges, only that I've seen some I like, and some I don't.
Secondly, aren't both of the ranges now approaching the age DE were when they got their massive overhaul? Irrespective of whether they were new when the last update occurred, a lot of the models are still quite old.
But I do agree, I'm not expecting much, as the attitude seems to be "release new, old will do" when it comes to updates these days (new Marine release being somewhat of an exception) I just think its a shame that the two factions that I feel could be amongst the most spectacular that GW make, are just the usual mix of good bad and ugly.
Fair enough. Sorry if I came off aggressively, I think it came out worse than I intended.
It just really surprised me because I remember when those ranges came out, the response was mostly very positive and I think they are two of GWs better ranges still (other than a few stinkers, like treekin/treeman and some didn't like how the new Bretonnian footmen look).
Considering that they got so many updates last time, I think they are extremely unlikely to get them again. GW seems to be in money saving mode. I think the most you can hope for is a big monster and some sort of dual unit kit... which I doubt will entice you into playing.
No problem, I just wish the WE had more of this
But less of this
Or even some of this (concept art, but every sculpt so far has been really faithful)
But that just doesn't seem to be the direction that GW are going, especially with the .fantasy releases.
What i would like is to keep our current codex for all time. But i will settle for well written* codex buy someone who actually apears to know what hes doing.
*well written is a subjective term i know and i use it here to cover all aspects of the codex (fluff, crunch and sundry).
-Loki- wrote: So you want 4 different special rules per unit and FAQ's longer than your codex?
I don't recall either of those problems with Codex: Tau, and half of the FAQ for Codex: DA was an errata of the Company Veteran entry in it's entireity.
-Loki- wrote: So you want 4 different special rules per unit and FAQ's longer than your codex?
I don't recall either of those problems with Codex: Tau, and half of the FAQ for Codex: DA was an errata of the Company Veteran entry in it's entireity.
Technically there isn't that problem with Chaos Daemons either, because they haven't done a proper FAQ update this year. That doesn't mean there won't be pages of it when it does arrive!
But I've not heard many Tau players, locally or here, complaining over much. There is that daft thing where the bomber technically can't ever fire a bomb isn't there? But nothing like a Flaming Chariot that needs to break the rules in order to work like it is apparently meant to.
Jidmah wrote: I don't know the first thing about WHFB, so I really couldn't say anything about it, even if I would go through the trouble of reading it.
Ok, I'll explain:
Ward wrote two books in WHFB during 7th edition that were released quite close to each other: Orcs and Goblins and Daemons of Chaos.
The Orcs and Goblins codex was the weakest in the game at the time, and most of the fluff was copy-pasted from older books. He said in an interview that Orcs didn't really interest hum.
Daemons however, he was interested in and the book was so overpowered it single-handedly broke the entire edition.
Have to say I don't buy the Steel Legion rumours. Just smells too much of the sort of wishlisting that often comes up on forums.
Ditto for the Baneblade and its variants being in the Codex. Wraithkinghts and Riptides are one thing, but I can't see them putting tanks that are so obviously meant for Apocalypse in a standard army book.
Well, he's not saying much we didn't already hear, but it is convenient that his one divergent rumour (Blood Bowl) is first on the list, so we'll get a good gauge of his reliability pretty soon.
lord_blackfang wrote: Well, he's not saying much we didn't already hear, but it is convenient that his one divergent rumour (Blood Bowl) is first on the list, so we'll get a good gauge of his reliability pretty soon.
Yeah, I think that's going to sink him pretty quick. But at least he'll be in good company since, iirc, Hastings and Harry banked on Blood Bowl as well.
im surprised that they are not waiting till july 30th to release the rulebook, they could sell the 30th aniversary rulebook with goldleaf pages, leatherbound all for the low low price of 300 dollars
Jidmah wrote: I don't know the first thing about WHFB, so I really couldn't say anything about it, even if I would go through the trouble of reading it.
Ok, I'll explain:
Ward wrote two books in WHFB during 7th edition that were released quite close to each other: Orcs and Goblins and Daemons of Chaos.
The Orcs and Goblins codex was the weakest in the game at the time, and most of the fluff was copy-pasted from older books. He said in an interview that Orcs didn't really interest hum.
Daemons however, he was interested in and the book was so overpowered it single-handedly broke the entire edition.
Why is there only one author on a book? Wouldnt , oh I don't know, at least a pair of guys be able to bounce ideas around and keep things from getting too out of hand?
HisDivineShadow wrote: Why is there only one author on a book? Wouldnt , oh I don't know, at least a pair of guys be able to bounce ideas around and keep things from getting too out of hand?
The studio as a whole does contribute to various bits (see Mat Ward for Battle Focus in Kelly's Eldar book), just the lead author gets their name as author, I'd imagine.
HisDivineShadow wrote: Why is there only one author on a book? Wouldnt , oh I don't know, at least a pair of guys be able to bounce ideas around and keep things from getting too out of hand?
They do that, but one author still has creative control over it. For example, Ward had input into Codex Eldar and came up with the Battle Focus rule, but it was still Kellys book.
HisDivineShadow wrote: Why is there only one author on a book? Wouldnt , oh I don't know, at least a pair of guys be able to bounce ideas around and keep things from getting too out of hand?
The studio as a whole does contribute to various bits (see Mat Ward for Battle Focus in Kelly's Eldar book), just the lead author gets their name as author, I'd imagine.
Even in research/engineering papers you only name the 1-4 lead people (while usually anyone beyond the second is ignored anyways), even if you had a team of 100 people working on the result. If you put 100 names on it, no one would care about any of them, just like no one reads all the credits rolling at the end of a movie/game.
via An Anonmyous Source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Some insights into models that are coming down the track.
A:I have seen a plastic adeptus mechanicus sprue with servitors and human sized (i.e. not space marine) adepts. This definitely exists because I have seen it, so don't confuse it with my second point, although I don't know where it fits in with the release schedule.
B: for over a year I have been seeing various photos of greens, and CAD print outs - so not just concept sketches - for imperial models that are familiar to the inquisition books. I have seen custodes-style models, arco-flaggelants, and ogryn-sized servitors (greens) - as well as a pretty big tank that looks like a cross between a land raider and a leman russ, in the style of the exorcist (CAD).
it seems to have become common knowledge in circles that A) the studio has definite plans for all this, and that B) there will be a 'new' race army book at some point at the end of this edition, similar to Dark Eldar.
'like Dark Eldar' I simply meant that, from the business's perspective, Dark Eldar were a new race when they got their latest codex and models. So 'new race' doesn't necessarily mean something like Tau in 2001, and I'm fully expecting it to be an imperial faction.
A and B may be unrelated. But, based on this, I am guessing that either that this is where sisters of battle will end up, or that their relaunch will be refocused on the weirder parts of the Imperium. I just want to make it clear though, I've never seen a new sisters of battle sculpt
via An Anonmyous Source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Some insights into models that are coming down the track.
A:I have seen a plastic adeptus mechanicus sprue with servitors and human sized (i.e. not space marine) adepts. This definitely exists because I have seen it,
Admech is the biggest unrealized concept they have, but I'm skeptical about them becoming a regular 40K codex army. FW is dabbling in it now, which would make you think GW proper wasn't planning anything. Then again, FW has been concentrating on robots, etc. and haven't produced any skitarii or praetorians. So who knows?
Wow, this is a massive change to other rumours I've been hearing recently. I thought Dark Elves would be my next army update, and Tyranids would be the last. I'm thrilled to hear that it may be the other way around!
But how reliable are these rumours compared to others we've heard?
via An Anonmyous Source on Faeit 212 wrote:
B: for over a year I have been seeing various photos of greens, and CAD print outs - so not just concept sketches - for imperial models that are familiar to the inquisition books. I have seen custodes-style models, arco-flaggelants, and ogryn-sized servitors (greens) - as well as a pretty big tank that looks like a cross between a land raider and a leman russ, in the style of the exorcist (CAD).
...
A and B may be unrelated. But, based on this, I am guessing that either that this is where sisters of battle will end up, or that their relaunch will be refocused on the weirder parts of the Imperium. I just want to make it clear though, I've never seen a new sisters of battle sculpt
Yeah, that all sounds like stuff that would be in the Inquisition box rather than a whole new faction. Not that I wouldn't mind some Mechanicus or some Custodes.
If this Steel Legion rumor turns out to be true, maybe that new tank they mentioned isn't actually a Baneblade, but rather this Sicarius sounding tank. I'd be fine with that. The Guard really need some proper MBTs that aren't ugly as hell.
Perhaps GW will release a fun Inquisator skirmish game and then one year later have a codex Ecclesiarchy (or some such) that the minis can be used with. We can dream can't we?
orkybenji wrote: Perhaps GW will release a fun Inquisator skirmish game and then one year later have a codex Ecclesiarchy (or some such) that the minis can be used with. We can dream can't we?
Careful, GW view your dreams as a form of copyright infringement.
I find funny that after waiting for IG plastics that were not the old cadian/catachan for years, now that I'm set for my IG with 3rd party figures GW might realease plastic Steel Legion.
rks release in march.
Time will tell I guess.
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