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 Bull0 wrote:
Oh god, 9th ed fantasy already? I've only barely got a handle on 8th. I don't wanna spaff £50 on another book to stay current. :(


Every 4 years! So many have left WFB due to 8th that I would have loved a 9th edition last year to maybe get people back.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
Ever since the Wraithknight came out, I've been expecting the IG codex to have the Baneblade in it. Knights are already Epic units, the Baneblade isn't much of a stretch after that, and, in all honesty, as long as it doesn't have D weapons, a 525pt tank with a big blast is hardly overpowered at most normal play levels (yeah, the tank is scary, but at 500something points good luck fitting much else in if you want more than one, in which case you're better off just taking 3 LRBT's anyway). I'd rather this not be true, the Baneblade has long been the archetypal IG "Apocalypse" unit, but it would surprise me more at this point if the tank were not in the codex than if it were.

I would think they would make a 'medium-large' tank between Russ and Baneblade size for regular 40k. Maybe 4 or 5 Hull points, good armour, Land Raider+ points value.

GW generally don't put existing models from Apoc or FW into their codices, though the IG codex was the exception.

That, or an actual Knight Titan (which the Wraithknight is in the class of).

If one of the 'big' kits is going from Apoc to a normal Codex unit, I would probably guess the Stompa rather than the Baneblade, especially as the Baneblade kit now has the parts for the D-Weapon loadouts.

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 Kirasu wrote:
 Bull0 wrote:
Oh god, 9th ed fantasy already? I've only barely got a handle on 8th. I don't wanna spaff £50 on another book to stay current. :(


Every 4 years! So many have left WFB due to 8th that I would have loved a 9th edition last year to maybe get people back.


Right. Someone had posted in a thread that I'm forgetting that they are revising Fantasy so quickly because 8th has been regarded as a major failure.
   
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How is it 'so quickly'? Recent history is every 4 years. 8th edition was released in July 2010. That's no rush because of a failed edition; that's standard practice at this point.

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If they make plastic steel legion....

Holy cow.

I'd keep my current Praetorians, but I'd love to build a new IG army from the ground up.
   
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Unfortunately, rumors of new plastic guard regiments are about as popular as plastic SOB and have come true about as much.


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So what is coming out in October then? He has been saying for months that Dark Elves are October. Super disappointed right now. And having 9th come out so soon? Nah.
   
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 pretre wrote:
Unfortunately, rumors of new plastic guard regiments are about as popular as plastic SOB and have come true about as much.



Unfortunate for some, sure. Me? I own a huge painted IG army and barely even play 40k. I need plastic Steel Legion like I need a hole in my head!
   
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New plastic IG does have one thing going for it.

Adding plastic to current range? (Karskin for example) People buy what? A box or two? Maybe?
New troops box? LOTS more sales. Even people already owning armies would be tempted to redo their entire force in modern tooled plastics. Sales sales sales.

There is a word for a wargamer with an empty paint bench.

Dead.

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 Daba wrote:
GW generally don't put existing models from Apoc or FW into their codices, though the IG codex was the exception.
Trygon says what now?
   
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 pretre wrote:
Saldiven wrote:
Harry and Hastings from Warseer have a far better track record than faeit212, and neither of them have Bretonians coming in the foreseeable future. Both of them have Dwarves in early 2014.

Agreed! This is salty, as are all Faeit rumors.


Yeah, I want to be optimistic here but when you're wrong more than half the time...

Still, I guess it generates discussion...?
   
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If these three things show up on a rumor list, you know its false.
1. Plastic Steel Legion
2. Bretonian anything.
3. Sisters of Battle anything.



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 MWHistorian wrote:
If these three things show up on a rumor list, you know its false.
1. Plastic Steel Legion
2. Bretonian anything.
3. Sisters of Battle anything.

Ahem...

Spoiler:
From Big Red's Tracker:
Releases - Oct 2011
Sisters in WD Summer 2011 TRUE

From Tastytaste's tracker:
Sisters - June 2011
Allies gone TRUE
Inquisition gone TRUE
Faith streamlined TRUE
USRs updated to 5th TRUE
Cheaper Unit costs TRUE
It is replaced with every unit has its own unit specific act of faith to call upon. TRUE
So for instance Repentia Act of Faith allows them to always land an attack even if they are killed before they can swing. TRUE
They are little bonuses like re-rolling to wound and hit, no USRs. FALSE
Now this if fine and dandy if you just pop a faith point and bam! power goes off, but not so fast. Acts of Faith require that you roll 5+ to activate . TRUE
In addition every unit that can get faith generates 1d6 faith points per turn. FALSE
This also means that a new faith pool is generated each turn with no storing of past faith. TRUE
As well faith can be activated in multiple phases of the game, so for instance you can re-roll to hit in your shooting phase or in your assault phase. TRUE
All Faith generating units get +6 invul save TRUE
All units that can get transports get Immolators or Rhinos TRUE
Assassins gone (Death Cult still in) TRUE
Wargear with the same names as GK wargear stay and get changed over. (e.g. Psybolt Ammo) TRUE
Karamazov gone TRUE
Priests in, pretty much same as before. TRUE
No change to the general Bolter, Melta, Flame concept of the Sisters TRUE
Sisters have about 5 HQ choices including Special Characters TRUE
St. Celestine: Same price as a Grand Master you get 2+/+4 saves, WS/BS 7 Jump Pack, Fleet, Power Weapons always wounds on 4+ Has the power to come back like GK Thawn if killed. TRUE
Confessor: Takes the slot of the old Inquisitors. Cheap HQ (Warboss). Can create a henchman band using most of the henchman found in the GK codex. What makes the Confessor extra deadly is the ability for it to re-roll hits and wounds for her and the squad. This is the translation of the rumor matrix. So think for one second about her and the Death Cult together? TRUE
Repentia: Cheaper close to SM cost. FNP, Rage, Fearless, 6+ invul, no transports TRUE
Battle Sister Squad: Cheaper 10-20 unit size (no combat squads), but has access to Immolators which begs the question… Immolators either get increased transport capacity or Sisters break the rules concerning model count and buying transports. Multiple acts of faith. TRUE
Exocists: Pretty much same as before. TRUE


Sisters 2 - June 2011
What is not in the Codex
Repressors TRUE
Arbites TRUE
The Units (more information than others)
Canoness: Here is my special shout out to the Canoness: you are terrible. I mean grossly underpowered. Now this is going to sound like a cop-op, but I am not going into details because my hope is that she will be changed before release. It just sounds and looks like she is an unfinished product. She gets her own retinue that cannot do anything; she starts out cheap, but her upgrades are expensive and lame when you compare to everything else. So here is hoping to GW getting her fixed. TRUE
Repentia: Forgot to mention they have fleet TRUE
Celastians: Cheaper than a Marine, but not really anything going for them (that I know of)… extra attack. Re-roll hits for act of faith TRUE
Sister Battle Squad: Can still get a Heavy Flamer TRUE
Shraphim: They are pretty amazing. Cheaper than a Space Marine you get a Jump Packing, Hit and Running, and an act of faith that has them re-rolling wounds. You can also upgrade them to run with double hand flamers and melta pistols. They act both as an extra close combat weapon and become assault 2 instead of being twin-linked. So that means Assault 2 melta weapons. TRUE
Dominion Squads: Still get 4 special weapons. Act of Faith twin-linked. TRUE
Retributor Squads: Pretty fantastic. CHEAP! Talking under Long Fang cheap to fully kit out. Expect the return of the Heavy Bolter with these. Act of Faith is Rending. TRUE
Penitent Engines: Again fantastic. Same statline (Walker). No Scout or Infiltrate. Cheaper and can be a squadron aka 9 Engines. They still get the 1D6 attacks, but any wounds generate additional attacks (don’t know if they work like Blood Talons). 6+ Invul (don’t know if they generate faith)" TRUE

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Strange new tanks for the imperial guard. I was hoping for the griffon, medusa etc. The tanks that are in the codex but not in plastic. Just the griffon and the odd choice of a salamander is a bit out of left field. Perhaps the salamander is supposed to be the turretless tank?

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Warhammer 40.000
Steellegion will become a redesign, the models will wear "M35 Stahlhelms". There will be Boxes with Soldiers, Command and Heavy Weapons. The Turretless Tank Rumour means a Thunderer / Destroyer Kit. There will be vanilla Strom troopers too.

Imperial Guard & Orks could switch they release dates of January / March.



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 pretre wrote:
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Warhammer 40.000
Steellegion will become a redesign, the models will wear "M35 Stahlhelms". There will be Boxes with Soldiers, Command and Heavy Weapons. The Turretless Tank Rumour means a Thunderer / Destroyer Kit. There will be vanilla Strom troopers too.

Imperial Guard & Orks could switch they release dates of January / March.



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I think he's being trolled again.


Clearly, as such a release would be extremely profitable, and we all know GW does not, in fact, like money.

Instead I wholly expect DreadSentinel, Finecast Stormtroopers and re-desined Catachans with more muscles.

Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
 
   
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 MajorStoffer wrote:
Instead I wholly expect DreadSentinel, Finecast Stormtroopers and re-desined Catachans with more muscles.

... in a box of 5, for 30$, but with more bits including a skyfire rocket launcher

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 Kroothawk wrote:



Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:

Imperial Guards will have access to all their tanks in plastic with the release of their new codex.

Nobz in Mega Armor and new War Buggies and Traks are getting new models with their new codex also.



Supplements will not be providing new model kits until after all of the 6th edition codexes are up to date. Furthermore, if a new unit is introduced, it will be available to the core codex as well.

The Supplements will often introduce new ways to configure units. Either with different wargear, size of squad, force organization position, dedicated transport options, or cool army rules

The idea here is that people shouldn't feel like they have to get a supplement. Anything that's in a supplement, they have access to (model wise). No one is left out.



Thats the part of this set of rumors I can believe.
All Units in codices. Different configs and a few pieces of wargear in supplements makes sense. GW sells you "add-ons" ...

Does anyone think GW would run a store without the books to field the minis they plan to sell you? Can't see them dedicating lots of shelf space to supplements. So supplements stay direct only...yes?




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Plastic steel legion - it will be interesting to see how this rumour pans out.

Also a little disappointed to see wood elves are still off the radar.

   
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No Wood Elves? Thought they were rumoured to be on the way?

Also Space Wolves at the end of next year? Fair enough.

A lot of these rumours just seem to be pulled out of his arse.

While he's at it, let me try!

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The only thing I don't believe in this thread is someone actually thinking that the next rulebook will only be £50........
   
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New plastic IG units would be the only thing I would be interested in from GW. I would buy a command squad and a squad or two without a second thought.
   
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I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.
   
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Space Wolves in May? I wasn't expecting a new one for at least another 2 years or so lol.

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Another year in production, no new plastic kits for Havocs, Chosen, Cult units, Chaos Dreadnoughts or Bikes.

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All that is just as likely to happen as not actually.

More or less!
   
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 pretre wrote:
How is it 'so quickly'? Recent history is every 4 years. 8th edition was released in July 2010. That's no rush because of a failed edition; that's standard practice at this point.


That's true. My mistake. Had 8th coming out later than 2010 in my mind.
   
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 40kFSU wrote:
I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.


For a few players, but when troops, command squads, and heavy weapons are the same, Cadians, Catachans, and a new regiment would be effectively interchangeable in sales. If you buy Cadians, you don't need Catachan or Steel Legion models.

And 3 kits is a lot for a release. What else could those 3 kits get us besides a third version of basic troops? Stormtroopers/Carapace vets/kasrkin. Griffon/Salamander. Hydra. Basilisk/Medusa/Colossus. Roughriders. Ogryn.

That said, if they do Steel legion, they could really boost sales by including female guard on the sprue.
   
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 40kFSU wrote:
I don't think plastic steel legion is that far fetched. All you need is 3 new kits to start the line. Consider how many new players would go start a guard army due to the new models. I love IG, but I am Cadian/Catachan'd out. No more for me. Plastic steel legion would be like printing money.


The issue is it doesn't fit 6th edition release methods, which tend to be releasing any missing kits from 5th edition, moving a unit or two to plastic, and adding a couple of new units (usually a flyer and/or an oval base walker). Three new basic infantry kits isn't something we've seen since the Dark Eldar/Necron/Grey Knights releases in 5th, and those were complete line overhauls. Guard also still have a decent amount of stuff that needs releasing to fill up a 6th edition codex release wave.
   
 
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