Manchu wrote:
@All:

The thread is not a referendum on whether it is okay to like X.

If you do not have anything to say about the models themselves or the structure/value of the Kickstarter, please refrain from posting.

Slap Miniatures has a Kickstarter running to produce a magical collection of hand-crafted miniature ponies for table-top gaming, as well as pegasi, unicorns, alicorns and all other racial variants.

Link to the Kickstarter Campaign

The initial goal is to fund a generic pony variety pack to cater for the shockingly under-served magical pastel equine sector of the wargames industry, but as stretch goals are funded the range will expand to cover armoured and character ponies of all kinds.









Stretch Goals:

- £3000: Project funded.
- £4000: Adventurers.
- £5000: Flank & File.
- £6000: Knights of the Round Stable.
- £7000: Daughters of Cyberiel.
- £8000: Legion of Luno.
- £8500: Pundamilia the zebra.
- £9000: Toast the Dragon.
- £9500: Trio of Terror.
- £10000: Cowboy Hat accessory - Included free in all "String of ponies 2" sets.
- £10500: Mare Maid - Free miniature for all pledges.

Hoo boy. I guess this is now a thing.

Ugh but I guess it was only a matter of time before someone saw the opportunity and went with it!

The lack of Derpy in this saddens me.

Perhaps she shall be a stretch goal?

^ Hopefully she'll be in there somewhere, they do mention muffins a lot!

I have to say, really impressed by the sculpting quality on this one, the mane 6 in particular are really nicely done.

 pretre wrote:
Hoo boy. I guess this is now a thing.

Sigh..yeah.

And honestly, I tried to give the show a chance. I really did. But despite what all the Bronie articles want to lead you to believe, there's nothing in the show for a straight, red-blooded, meat eating American male. There really isn't. And I really enjoy So You Think You Can Dance.

Not very well done, the sculpts are below average for miniatures and the price is just abhorrent

marinekilla1 wrote:
Not very well done, the sculpts are below average for miniatures and the price is just abhorrent

2/10

You missed the obvious pun. "This kickstarter is a Slap in the face." Is the price really that bad? 19 minis for 45 pounds. They are a niche product obviously, but people are already pledging.

8th sign of the Apocalypse?

At least this is a Kickstarter that RiTides can feel good about being on Kickstarter - and maybe even support?

Yeah... I understand the market for these, and the RPG classes is even a neat idea... but something with the sculpts seem off. The heads are too small for my tastes. Even a cartoons cale which was not trying to be chibi, the heads should be bigger.

Good luck to them!

Where is all the bile fuelled acid and hate about them profiting from someoen else's IP?

When will we see Ultramares and Death Ponies of Krieg?

At least we will get this:

 Kroothawk wrote:
When will we see Ultramares and Death Ponies of Krieg?

I propose a new internet rule - if it exists, there are ponies of it:

I'm okay with MLP, not super into it but I can get why some of my friends are.

And I bet those same friends won't touch these miniatures with a 10-foot unicorn horn. They kinda look creepy.

I might just get some for a moster race if some of my players ever become any more spiteful than the already are. IMO this is funny enough even though I hate the entire brony tripe with a passion when played straight.

Didn't Impact Minis already do this? They even had a Ponythulhu, right?

 scarletsquig wrote:
the mane 6

 Kroothawk wrote:
When will we see Ultramares and Death Ponies of Krieg?

Ah c'mon now Kroothawk, you know how this works!

The first variation is going to be Nazi Ponies! :p

 SickSix wrote:
Ah c'mon now Kroothawk, you know how this works!
The first variation is going to be Nazi Ponies! :p

Sorry, not this time: It is a British company

 cincydooley wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Hoo boy. I guess this is now a thing.

Sigh..yeah.

And honestly, I tried to give the show a chance. I really did. But despite what all the Bronie articles want to lead you to believe, there's nothing in the show for a straight, red-blooded, meat eating American male. There really isn't. And I really enjoy So You Think You Can Dance.

I'm straight, red-blooded, meat eating American Male... your words sting a bit...

Also, not cartoony enough, these look like the old late 80s version...

I can't believe those words were just typed...

A market I never knew existed. Well, you gotta love Kickstarter. They can scratch an itch most of us didn't even know was there. Not sure how how many young girls are into minis let alone have access to Kicksterter. Or is this more for the D&D folks?

So when can I get a realistic mini war game using real militaries in a current setting? Even just a squad based game.

Besides the crazy pony aspect, It would be fun to paint em up and use them as mount models in D&D or something. And absolutely hilarious if you did a biker/calvary conversion for 40k with them.

 Davespil wrote:
A market I never knew existed. Well, you gotta love Kickstarter. They can scratch an itch most of us didn't even know was there. Not sure how how many young girls are into minis let alone have access to Kicksterter. Or is this more for the D&D folks?

So when can I get a realistic mini war game using real militaries in a current setting? Even just a squad based game.

Force on Force and Empress Miniatures (I believe that's the company) can set you up.

And it's not for the young girls, it's for the bronies...

 Bobaram wrote:
Besides the crazy pony aspect, It would be fun to paint em up and use them as mount models in D&D or something. And absolutely hilarious if you did a biker/calvary conversion for 40k with them.

40K calvary conversions would be fun to see.

 Davespil wrote:

 Bobaram wrote:
Besides the crazy pony aspect, It would be fun to paint em up and use them as mount models in D&D or something. And absolutely hilarious if you did a biker/calvary conversion for 40k with them.

40K calvary conversions would be fun to see.

I don't think 40K was all that big on crucifixion? Cavalry however conversions could be cool, though I think the minis might be a bit small for that.

 Alpharius wrote:
8th sign of the Apocalypse?

At least this is a Kickstarter that RiTides can feel good about being on Kickstarter - and maybe even support?

I don't support all "indy" campaigns, just the ones that I like

Pony models isn't one of those...

 Davespil wrote:

 Bobaram wrote:
Besides the crazy pony aspect, It would be fun to paint em up and use them as mount models in D&D or something. And absolutely hilarious if you did a biker/calvary conversion for 40k with them.

40K calvary conversions would be fun to see.

We have a blog here on dakka about that..

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424613.page

UGH! I saw this earlier today on TGN. Groaned then and now. Some times just because it's a clever idea does not mean it's one that should see the light of day. I am no where interested in this one and I hope it does not fund.

BrotherKarr wrote:
UGH! I saw this earlier today on TGN. Groaned then and now. Some times just because it's a clever idea does not mean it's one that should see the light of day. I am no where interested in this one and I hope it does not fund.

See, this is why we can't have nice things. WTF man? Really, I tend to keep 6ft. distance from any bronies at the FLGS as well but how does it affect you negatively, or indeed in any way, if something you don't like gets made? Get your head out of your rectum, man...

As much as I don't like them, I have to agree with Bolognesus. Let other people have their things. You don't have to wish failure on it just because you don't like it.

...And in the interest of full disclosure I will admit I actually am backing, because I suspect those Cornulae will, when painted in somewhat less of a pastel palet, be pretty nice NPC's someday. The fact they're not really chibi or anything does kind of give some of these minis (I'm hoping for some of the stretch goals, for example) a broader appeal than just the brony crowd.

Still, YMMV

NPC's for what exactly?

 Alpharius wrote:
NPC's for what exactly?

I'm assuming NPC's that are heralds of diabolic schemes of an evil, plotting DM.

 heartserenade wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
NPC's for what exactly?

I'm assuming NPC's that are heralds of diabolic schemes of an evil, plotting DM.

Indeed, what DM wouldn't want to summon the apocalypse on the wings of demons such as these!

Shotgun the DOA flying pony army.

Slaanesh themed army, anyone?

................ Is this what replaced sailor moon? I do not aim to offend just, i do not understand the brony thing. I hear it was put together really well and that the stories are very well in depth.........Its a kids cartoon targeted to little girls right? My brain hurts.

 Alpharius wrote:
NPC's for what exactly?

My settings tend to err on the side of... creative DMing. I'm not above inventing races every now and then (saves me the annoying players digging up some fething obscure 80's resource contradicting what I just told them about $RACE's culture for starters ).
Besides, sentient $WHATEVER isn't exactly that much of a stretch in high fantasy RPG's anyway.

The saddest thing about this kickstarter is that it will probably succeed.

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:
The saddest thing about this kickstarter is that it will probably succeed.

Good F***, look I like being a negative SOB as much as the next guy here (and probably a lot more besides) but what *is* it with some folk? Why do you even care if it doesn't appeal to you anyway?

Since the last guy seems to have just bombed the thread and left I'm going to try again here: Can you explain to me why this succeeding would be sad? How would this materially impact you? What substantive effect on your presumably sorry life would that have? Enlighten me please, I'm honestly dumbfounded here.

 Alpharius wrote:
NPC's for what exactly?

Pack horses, Steeds and caravans are sometimes used as objectives. Also, when you RPG in a town it is nice to have some farm animals.

Like I said, I wouldn't mind some of these. An Armored one for a knight or a barbarian's horse would be cool. Some may make good bestiary stuff like unicorns, pegesus and so on.

I just don't like the scale. Something seems off, it is not Realistic scale, not Heroic scale, Doesn't match the cartoon proportions or style, and isn't chibi. It is just 'odd'.

This is a figure I just picked up recently:

It is a little cartoony and probably more 'heroic scale' but is a fun horse most people could use in an RPG. The design for the barbarian horse is kinda cool and a few others would be neat as 'disney-esque' sidekicks for RPG heroes.

It all depends what they do with it. Also, if they plan to go the whole MLP route, they may make some non-pony monsters too. If the individual sculpts for monsters are decent, they may find interest there.

I can see the multiple markets... I could see why people would want them, I am just not quite there.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:
The saddest thing about this kickstarter is that it will probably succeed.

Good F***, look I like being a negative SOB as much as the next guy here (and probably a lot more besides) but what *is* it with some folk? Why do you even care if it doesn't appeal to you anyway?

Since the last guy seems to have just bombed the thread and left I'm going to try again here: Can you explain to me why this succeeding would be sad? How would this materially impact you? What substantive effect on your presumably sorry life would that have? Enlighten me please, I'm honestly dumbfounded here.

I would like to chime in. It would be strange to see a grown man playing any type of table top game with them. Being in the same store and area of people using them and taking great pride in showing them off in there ponyawsomeness, would shine a strange and not wanted light on wargamers. I have nothing against it to each their own, to some one walking into a store maybe a young boy/girl and walking into grown men playing a MLP game would raise the red flag on any parent. Now let’s say a person who came across wargameing only online came to a store to check it out walked in an seen 40k against a ponyarmada, I’m sure it wouldn’t be so openly accepted. Either way it’s strange and not well understood by most. Being a wargamer already ties in with, nerd and other hermit like names, MLP minis would just add salt to the wound-IF used as proxies all across the board and painted to match the theme through MLP all bright and hearts stars clover rainbows and red balloons everywhere. I wouldn’t even play that person!

 SheSpits wrote:
I would like to chime in. It would be strange to see a grown man playing any type of table top game with them. Being in the same store and area of people using them and taking great pride in showing them off in there ponyawsomeness, would shine a strange and not wanted light on wargamers. I have nothing against it to each their own, to some one walking into a store maybe a young boy/girl and walking into grown men playing a MLP game would raise the red flag on any parent.

Won't somepony please think of the children!

I think it's great, having an army of these would just be a way of not taking yourself too seriously and having a bit of a laugh really, nothing more.

This is one of the reasons I always liked playing against Ork/ Orc players in 40k/fantasy... in general, they do not give a crap and just have fun with the game.

Also, there are unicorns, centaurs and pegasi in the KoW army lists, and they don't have any models yet so technically I have a legit use for them. :p

There's some more pics of the greens over here, lots of different angles, they look pretty nice:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.661572477195462.1073741834.480222931997085&type=1

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:
The saddest thing about this kickstarter is that it will probably succeed.

Good F***, look I like being a negative SOB as much as the next guy here (and probably a lot more besides) but what *is* it with some folk? Why do you even care if it doesn't appeal to you anyway?

Since the last guy seems to have just bombed the thread and left I'm going to try again here: Can you explain to me why this succeeding would be sad? How would this materially impact you? What substantive effect on your presumably sorry life would that have? Enlighten me please, I'm honestly dumbfounded here.

Do I really need to explain what is sad about grown men playing with pink ponies from a TV show whose target audience is <10 year old girls? Unless you are playing said game with your daughter of said age, it reeks of pedo, man. REEKS.

Just did a bit of googling and I'm finding the project popping up all over the place. I appreciate the effort that people have put into sharing it and even some of the more respectful negative opinions.

I find it a shame that there are those that are actively calling for the project to fail (I was expecting this though), if mostly because I've spent allot of my time (and I mean allot) creating and designing these figurines for those that would like to include ponies in their games. or to perhaps play some introductory types of games with their kids. My kids love them, and have taken a few of the test castings we have to give them to friends at their school, whenever their friends come over to play they still ask if they can have another pony.

I just don't think table-topping has to be all about guns and guts.

To be honest, I still find it a little bewildering walking into any gaming convention finding fully grown men staring down over toy battlefields full of stunted dwarves, bizarre looking armoured men on steroids and demons spewing puss with guts hanging out and hoping that their next dice roll will lead them to victory... or arguing over whether a powerfist is better than a lightning claw for 20 minutes straight. I can't really fault them though, I enjoy getting a bit of gaming in as much as the next hobbyist.

Anyway, I'll stop now before writing down anything else daft and get actually get on with a bit of work.


Regards


Stu



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Oh and thanks Scarletsquig, nice to hear a voice of reason!

I'm not biased at all...

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:
The saddest thing about this kickstarter is that it will probably succeed.

Good F***, look I like being a negative SOB as much as the next guy here (and probably a lot more besides) but what *is* it with some folk? Why do you even care if it doesn't appeal to you anyway?

Since the last guy seems to have just bombed the thread and left I'm going to try again here: Can you explain to me why this succeeding would be sad? How would this materially impact you? What substantive effect on your presumably sorry life would that have? Enlighten me please, I'm honestly dumbfounded here.

Do I really need to explain what is sad about grown men playing with...

I put the relevant part in italics. The notion that grown men playing with Space Marines that look like they crawled off an 80's cover of Heavy Metal, or anime inspired whatnot, is serious business while ponies are for kidz seems...a tiny bit silly.

As for the "pedo" bit... I'm going to go with "that says a lot more about the observer then the observed" on that one.


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Bergil wrote:
Just did a bit of googling and I'm finding the project popping up all over the place. I appreciate the effort that people have put into sharing it and even some of the more respectful negative opinions.

I find it a shame that there are those that are actively calling for the project to fail (I was expecting this though), if mostly because I've spent allot of my time (and I mean allot) creating and designing these figurines for those that would like to include ponies in their games. or to perhaps play some introductory types of games with their kids. My kids love them, and have taken a few of the test castings we have to give them to friends at their school, whenever their friends come over to play they still ask if they can have another pony.

I just don't think table-topping has to be all about guns and guts.

To be honest, I still find it a little bewildering walking into any gaming convention finding fully grown men staring down over toy battlefields full of stunted dwarves, bizarre looking armoured men on steroids and demons spewing puss with guts hanging out and hoping that their next dice roll will lead them to victory... or arguing over whether a powerfist is better than a lightning claw for 20 minutes straight. I can't really fault them though, I enjoy getting a bit of gaming in as much as the next hobbyist.

Anyway, I'll stop now before writing down anything else daft and get actually get on with a bit of work.


Regards


Stu

And welcome to Dakka! Have a nice stay.

Compairing a gut spewing plague marine to a pink rainbow pony is night and Justin Bieber. Doesnt stack up.

The kid aspect ok cool i support that.

Grown single men with no kids watching it and getting stoked to watch it is strange........

 Samurai_Eduh wrote:


Do I really need to explain what is sad about grown men playing with pink ponies from a TV show whose target audience is <10 year old girls? Unless you are playing said game with your daughter of said age, it reeks of pedo, man. REEKS.

Reeks of furry, maybe. Maybe. And even then, so what? If we are looking to miniatures as an indicator of people's kinks we'd have to start making all sorts of absurd assumptions regarding damn near most of the miniature lines out there and I don't think we want to go down that road do we? I mean I love a good Dark Eldar S&M joke but just because I have a Dark Eldar list is that really reflective of how I get my rocks off? And these are pony miniatures, not minis of kids in inappropriate poses/attire.

I don't get the Brony hate. I really don't. I understand not wanting to have anything to do with My Little Pony, but like Bolognesus, I don't understand swooping into other people's business and crapping on their fun because they like something you do not. If you don't want not-MLP minis don't back the Kickstarter and don't buy them at retail when they are made available. If Brony threads and MLP threads bother you then don't enter them.

And regarding SheSpits comment about these minis giving other gamers a bad name... jeez. Where to begin? I'd bet money that most parents who are unfamiliar with mini-wargaming after having walked into a game shop aren't going to be dismissive of just one type of game or miniature, but rather they will be wide-eyed and a little put off on the general commotion going on at the playing tables in general. They will see daemonic constructs, tanks, guns, dismembered humans, monsters, dragons, and all sorts of fantastic nonsense cluttering those felt covered tables that anthropmorphic ponies are just going to blend in. Remember, just because a Space Marine or a Warjack are familiar to us, to most everyone out there they are all representative of childish toys that grown men shouldn't be playing with.

In a place where monster machines the undead and demons are played (by grown men). Look to your left and there huddels a group of grown men getting excited about pink,purple and blue ponys on a table while they pony brawl. And debating what pony is there fav, would be super strange and akward. From any point of view even if its just a second that you ponder on it. I am a parent, my boys run around the house pretending to be zombies batman monster and try and eat my brains BOY stuff. If my son crawled on all four and pretended to be sunshine sparkle and issue hugs out and acted all female. Id worrie and worrie a lot! If they are painted as unicorns and horses cool, my deal is them being painted as MLP from the cartoon then thrown onto the table as a DA chap. Or pony wars mocking 40k rules. Im not nocking the brony scene its just very strange. Do as you please just do not get upset when you get a ton of stink eye for using them. Laughs are fun and most who know you will think its funny. Im not trying to cram my view of it down your or any ones throat, Im come across some really nice bronys. The do not even mention it unless you ask, but once you do they will go on and on! Once rainbow dash and other silly girl names come out its hard to understand why this grown man loves this cartoon so much that was ment for little girls. Im not trying to start a fight or anything so ill leave this thread. CARRY ON BRONYS!

Having lived through the gamer persecution of the 1980s I am simply going to say that I have zero interest in dealing with that level of stigma all over again due to bronies.

I honestly wish this project wasn't happening. Some may not see it but there are huge possibilities of direct negative implications on a local level for entire scenes once news starts spreading about those full grown nerds that play with ponies down at the game store.

Swabby wrote:
Having lived through the gamer persecution of the 1980s I am simply going to say that I have zero interest in dealing with that level of stigma all over again due to bronies.

I honestly wish this project wasn't happening. Some may not see it but there are huge possibilities of direct negative implications on a local level for entire scenes once news starts spreading about those full grown nerds that play with ponies down at the game store.

That strikes me as a rather selfish way of looking at things. Why should what these people do amongst themselves reflect badly on you?

I think there are some reasons for people to be upset, which are understandable, even if they may or may not be reasonable. People are allowed to like whatever they want, within some boundaries. I think the issue is less that MLP is aimed at young girls, but that, for better or worse, the stereotypical image of a brony is very negative. While there are always decent people in every fandom, there are plenty of stories of bronies behaving... badly, to be polite. The negative association with that specific subset of male MLP fans is what skeeves a lot of us out, myself included. Many of us fear wargaming being lumped into the same group by association. Part of me does want this to fail, but I recognize that I'm not being fair to the wider community.

Also, if I ever have a son, he can be as feminine as he wants, because it's his fething life, and because femininity isn't a negative quality, for boys or girls.

Eh, it wasn't all that long ago when women were considered weirdos/ homosexual for liking anything other than cooking, makeup or fashion.

These days you don't really bat an eyelid if they go to a football match, do sports or play wargames.

Straight guys liking pastel ponies is just the other side of the coin.

As for the pedo comment, that's just horribly misinformed, bronies aren't interested in human females of any age... they don't have hooves.

More different stuff is always good

I'm not a MLP fan (although I don't dislike it) but if I hadn't got a bunch of ponies from the Impact KS I'd be in on this one immediately

as it is I'll need to see how the cash flow goes and sneak in later on if funds allow

they're just a bit of fun, so grin and back them

NM

 scarletsquig wrote:


Also, there are unicorns, centaurs and pegasi in the KoW army lists, and they don't have any models yet so technically I have a legit use for them. :p

There's some more pics of the greens over here, lots of different angles, they look pretty nice:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.661572477195462.1073741834.480222931997085&type=1

Thanks for the greens. Some of them look nice, I just kinda wish they had longer 'horse face' because something just isn't meshing for me.

The Armored Unicorn Pegasus and the Demon Pegasus are pretty decent sculpts. If they pander some to the RPG/Wargame crowd with a few slightly more 'horsefaced' models, they could see more support.

The idea of steeds dressed like their owner appeals to me, the horse playing a flute does not. I think a barbarian horse and the wizard horse are pretty hilarious, I could see a wizard having a wizard horse.

With the hundreds of crazy models out there from Kiddie RPG mice, Cheesecake nurses, Demonic bewbmonsters, and so on, of all the things which give modelers/gamers a 'bad name' I can't see it being a Brony KS. Besides, did we forget there are two genders out there? Women work too, and have jobs and actually paint models! I would say outside the wargaming arena, women are way more active in miniature painting and RPG gaming than wargaming and guess what... Maybe they want to spend money on a Kickstarter too? Or get miniatures which fathers may want to share with their daughters? Very surprised that just because people outside a core demographic may like something, the core demographic does exist and has every right to have a KS make something for them...

I don't understand the hate.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

That strikes me as a rather selfish way of looking at things. Why should what these people do amongst themselves reflect badly on you?

It isn't selfish, it is realistic. If I hang out in a place where people are doing things that others do not like, even if I do not participate, I still have to deal with the stigma that comes along with hanging out in that place.

Swabby wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

That strikes me as a rather selfish way of looking at things. Why should what these people do amongst themselves reflect badly on you?

It isn't selfish, it is realistic. If I hang out in a place where people are doing things that others do not like, even if I do not participate, I still have to deal with the stigma that comes along with hanging out in that place.

No it's selfish, you're not going to carry the stigma of what someone else does. I don't carry the stigma of Yu-Gi-Oh players because I don't play the game, I don't carry the historical gamers stigma because I don't really play historical games. JUST BECAUSE TWO SIMILAR EVENTS HAPPEN AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE SAME THING.

Hmm the one thing I wonder is whether or not I'll be able to convert some casualty makers out of those sculpts... way to not pander to a very lucrative market KS guys!

 Alfndrate wrote:

Swabby wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

That strikes me as a rather selfish way of looking at things. Why should what these people do amongst themselves reflect badly on you?

It isn't selfish, it is realistic. If I hang out in a place where people are doing things that others do not like, even if I do not participate, I still have to deal with the stigma that comes along with hanging out in that place.

No it's selfish, you're not going to carry the stigma of what someone else does. I don't carry the stigma of Yu-Gi-Oh players because I don't play the game, I don't carry the historical gamers stigma because I don't really play historical games. JUST BECAUSE TWO SIMILAR EVENTS HAPPEN AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE SAME THING.

Also I do love the mild hypocrisy of "I endured discrimination from the mainstream to become slightly more mainstream...now it's time to discriminate against a group more fringe than my own!"

I don't watch the show, though I find the following for it amusing in various ways and puzzling in others. However, I believe everyone is allowed to do what makes them happy as long as they don't hurt another to do it. If someone wants to come into a store and judge something they don't understand, that's their problem and your community is better off for not having their close-minded idiocy tainting it.

That said, I really would only have use for one model for a co-worker who shares a nickname with a characters so I'll be giving this one a pass. Good luck to the creator and I hope the backers enjoy their little toys as much as I enjoy the ones I prefer.

 SheSpits wrote:
I am a parent, my boys run around the house pretending to be zombies batman monster and try and eat my brains BOY stuff. If my son crawled on all four and pretended to be sunshine sparkle and issue hugs out and acted all female. Id worrie and worrie a lot!

This is something that just really, really stood out to me. Out of all the idiocy spewed (spat?) in this thread by now this has got to be the one, single most potentially damaging bit of all. It reeks of the kind of child abuse rampant in the eighties and before (and still prevalent in rural evangelical circles in the US, I'm told) of "gender-affirmative corrective therapy" and whatever other pseudo-scientific names had to be attached to the monstrosities perpetrated in the name of conformity.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything wrong with boys doing stereotypical "boy stuff" (whatever that might be). But really, if they prefer baking and decorating cookies or drawing some (probably god-awful, being kids ) pastel-coloured happy-fun-land that should be encouraged just as much. Kids aren't there to be pressmolded into your narrow-minded vision of what 'ought' to be - on the contrary.
It might seem a bit off-topic but this point, IMO, provides a perfect insight into the mind of the kind of man who is actually insecure enough in his own self-image to have to not only take that out on his fellow man in an FLGS, but on his kids as well.
The kind of mind any right-thinking adult would hope to have seen extinct by now - but alas.

Actually come to think of it, it's not even remotely off-topic. With that one phrase you displayed *so* vibrantly just how much you seem to crave conformity over everything else that nothing, nothing which doesn't fit your exact world-view and preferences, in your mind could ever just be someone else's spot of harmless fun. You know what? Wallow in your own misery all you like but please, please do not force it on others. May God have mercy on those poor kids of yours.

 SheSpits wrote:
Grown single men with no kids watching it and getting stoked to watch it is strange........

So having kids is the prerequisite for enjoying shows that are deliberately aimed at both child and adult audience now?

Do you object to childless people going to see Disney movies as well? Or liking the Muppets?

 Krinsath wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

Swabby wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

That strikes me as a rather selfish way of looking at things. Why should what these people do amongst themselves reflect badly on you?

It isn't selfish, it is realistic. If I hang out in a place where people are doing things that others do not like, even if I do not participate, I still have to deal with the stigma that comes along with hanging out in that place.

No it's selfish, you're not going to carry the stigma of what someone else does. I don't carry the stigma of Yu-Gi-Oh players because I don't play the game, I don't carry the historical gamers stigma because I don't really play historical games. JUST BECAUSE TWO SIMILAR EVENTS HAPPEN AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE SAME THING.

Also I do love the mild hypocrisy of "I endured discrimination from the mainstream to become slightly more mainstream...now it's time to discriminate against a group more fringe than my own!"

I don't watch the show, though I find the following for it amusing in various ways and puzzling in others. However, I believe everyone is allowed to do what makes them happy as long as they don't hurt another to do it. If someone wants to come into a store and judge something they don't understand, that's their problem and your community is better off for not having their close-minded idiocy tainting it.

That said, I really would only have use for one model for a co-worker who shares a nickname with a characters so I'll be giving this one a pass. Good luck to the creator and I hope the backers enjoy their little toys as much as I enjoy the ones I prefer.

To be fair - and entirely NOT to say that's what any of the detractors here are doing, those are just being arses -, there's something to be said for applying some social pressure to the 'weirder' guys at your average FLGS. Targeting the really unwanted/undesirable (anti)social behaviour some tend to display is something which we, as a group, often tend to shy away from too much. I can understand not wanting to be associated with some elements of the "gaming" subculture (feth, I often tend to avoid the association myself, certainly in "professional" settings) - it's just that while bronies might (and in my area, not just might from what I hear ) be a valid target for some social pressure this is both the wrong reason and the wrong way.


As far as I can tell, the stigma associated in most circles with gamers is not the activity or the subject matter - it's the lack of social skills rather ostentatiously displayed by what are often the most "visible" gamers (you know the type - stopped just shy of replacing their teeth with golden D20's). Of course the idea of folks associating you with that (or actually belonging in that category) is so unpleasant the human mind tends to find a more palatable reason for the distaste others seem to have for one's beloved pastime. "They just don't understand the activity" is of course the most merciful on one's own ego (lack of falsifiability also helps) and therefore the one usually chosen.
Those folk then go on to try to "police" the hobby to be precisely, and not one bit more, divergent from the norm so as not to make the activity even less palatable for bystanders - thereby of course completely missing the actual point.

...Of course what doesn't help either is that, at least around these parts, every FLGS I ever go the bronies have a reputation for not exactly being the most pleasant of folk to be around.
TBH, I haven't seen any which appeared more awkward to me than the average 14-16y old gamer around here (not saying much there) but when they flock together, well, I've heard guys who aren't exactly easily spooked say they've had to physically leave the store out of sheer discomfort. Haven't personally had the (dis?)pleasure of witnessing one such convergence, though I must say it sounds like enough of a trainwreck that I'll be sure to swing by next time anything like that is in motion.

...Oh well, no clue where this is going anymore anyway

 Bolognesus wrote:
*snip*

The most common stigmas I have found amongst the general public is that of the unwashed nerd who breathes too loudly and knows far too much about pointless trivia and is far too over-eager to share it with you. None of these, however, are about passion or what they like; they're about simple common courtesy. Don't let your enthusiasm for a thing cause you to harm another's enjoyment of their thing.

I'm sure bronies are guilty of getting annoyingly exuberant about things; most fanbases for anything can get that way very easily. If you ask them to tone it down and they behave like asshats, then sure, dislike that group. Also dislike anyone who is simply rude regardless of who they are and what they do, even if they're the same things you like! I think we all know That Guy in our group, and yet because he likes the same things we'll put up with him whereas we'd readily use that as an excuse to crucify someone we don't like.

At the end of the day, everyone is a nerd about *something*. While we might not understand it and find it contrary to what we think of as appropriate, until they cross the line into actually disrupting what we want to do it's a waste of time hating what someone else is doing instead of doing something you enjoy yourself, IMO.

I don't think this thread really needs to turn into a brony fight, but I think more of the stigma associated with bronies stems from a couple of reasons other than "they're bigger losers than 40k nerds!" which will hopefully help end the subject... anyway, here's the big 3 reasons why bronies aren't particularly liked across the internet:

First off, that they're grouped in with furries by liking anthropomorphic ponies, and all the automatic sexual connotations that brings. This isn't entirely unearned either - the fact that "clop fiction" and various other rule 34 slang terms exist which are unique to MLP "fans" can attest to that.

Secondly, MLP is a cartoon targeted at very young girls - understandably, it is quite odd that anyone outside of this age bracket, let alone grown men, would find this appealing as it isn't marketed towards them nor is it meant to at all. As a result, the vast majority who find MLP unappealing can't understand the bronies who think it's the shizzle and therefore deem them to be "extremely weird, yo".

Third, bronies tend to be very vocal about their love of MLP. It would probably be accepted and easily tolerated if they were quiet about their obsession, such as the guys who have massive Barbie doll collections. However, bronies are spreading across the internet like a bloody plague, as you can see on DakkaDakka and various other forums. On top of that they work MLP "tributes" into their other hobbies - for example, Pony Marines. This just further irritates those of us who don't care for MLP for the reasons stated above. Basically, the main reason why bronies are so stigmatized is due to their over-enthusiastic love of their hobby.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
First off, that they're grouped in with furries by liking anthropomorphic ponies, and all the automatic sexual connotations that brings. This isn't entirely unearned either - the fact that "clop fiction" and various other rule 34 slang terms exist which are unique to MLP "fans" can attest to that.

As someone said, this speaks much more about the person making the judgment than the person being judged. Rule 34 is just an outgrowth of the human obsession with sex. There's porn based around Star Wars, are all X-Wing fans dangerous deviants? There's live-action porn of SCOOBY DOO for feth's sake. Are people who watch the show now because it reminds them of their childhood creepy perverts intent on harming children? No, because that questionable content is just a thing that exists when people are allowed to do whatever they want with an audience. Certainly doesn't make it any less creepy when viewed in isolation, but it's not a trait unique to this particular fanbase either.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Secondly, MLP is a cartoon targeted at very young girls - understandably, it is quite odd that anyone outside of this age bracket, let alone grown men, would find this appealing as it isn't marketed towards them nor is it meant to at all. As a result, the vast majority who find MLP unappealing can't understand the bronies who think it's the shizzle and therefore deem them to be "extremely weird, yo".

And Animaniacs was a hilarious cartoon with a lot of adult humor when I was growing up. Adults who watched it would likely have been highly entertained by the jokes that went sailing by the kids. What something is marketed to and what something is enjoyed by are two different things. GW doesn't market...ok, at all really, but what they do is clearly geared towards younger males.

Are women not allowed to play the game at all? If a girl picks up a Space Marine and paintbrush should we smack it out of her hand and point her to the cartoon ponies saying "NO! These are not yours! You go play with the things for you"? Of course not, yet we seem to have no problem with doing that in the opposite direction? An odd double-standard there, to say the least.

Do we need to *understand* why someone likes a thing? No, because I don't need to understand why someone likes watching a regatta race or golf to say "Ah, it's some sort of sport-like object, and they like it in the same way I enjoy watching American Football" Our understanding of motives has no impact on our ability to say "hey, you like your thing...good for you!"

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Third, bronies tend to be very vocal about their love of MLP. It would probably be accepted and easily tolerated if they were quiet about their obsession, such as the guys who have massive Barbie doll collections. However, bronies are spreading across the internet like a bloody plague, as you can see on DakkaDakka and various other forums. On top of that they work MLP "tributes" into their other hobbies - for example, Pony Marines. This just further irritates those of us who don't care for MLP for the reasons stated above. Basically, the main reason why bronies are so stigmatized is due to their over-enthusiastic love of their hobby.

Now this point I can agree with to an extent. There are a LOT of over-enthusiastic bronies out there that go from the "hey cool, you like something" straight into the "ok, you know what? This is getting a little annoying now" level. They remind me a lot of people trying to get me to convert to whatever religion it is they follow, whether I express any interest in doing so or not. However, just like with that religious example, the vast majority of people who follow "whatever-it-is"-ism aren't annoying me, so my dislike and hatred is best directed at the individuals who have earned it and not the group as a whole who I could largely ignore.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Secondly, MLP is a cartoon targeted at very young girls - understandably, it is quite odd that anyone outside of this age bracket, let alone grown men, would find this appealing as it isn't marketed towards them nor is it meant to at all. As a result, the vast majority who find MLP unappealing can't understand the bronies who think it's the shizzle and therefore deem them to be "extremely weird, yo".

You are right. When I think 'Big Lebowski' I think of little girls.



The head writer of the show explicitly has been putting all sorts of adult things in the show explicitly for 'dads who have to watch what their daughters make them'. They explicitly tried to design the show to be inclusive so boys don't have to instantly change the channel and parents can tolerate it. They have done a pretty good job as it is one of the anchors of 'the hub', Hasbro's TV channel.

I just don't understand why others care? I mean, this is a Kickstarter, the chances of these minis even reaching your FLGS or for you to be in a room with them unwillingly in your lifetime is basically none. And considering the terrible, dumb and offensive kickstarters that already exist and the fact overly PC people already see wargaming as glorifying guns to kids, playing with miniatures in *ANY* form is going to get you summarily judged and stigmatized with small-minded people. You can have the most bad-ass sci-fi, manly miniature ever and to a large portion of the population you are the 40-year old virgin.

I hope the Bronies go crazy and maybe they will expand the line with stretch goals to something a RPG collector may enjoy.

nkelsch wrote:

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Secondly, MLP is a cartoon targeted at very young girls - understandably, it is quite odd that anyone outside of this age bracket, let alone grown men, would find this appealing as it isn't marketed towards them nor is it meant to at all. As a result, the vast majority who find MLP unappealing can't understand the bronies who think it's the shizzle and therefore deem them to be "extremely weird, yo".

You are right. When I think 'Big Lebowski' I think of little girls.

Perhaps, but just because you like The Big Lebowski doesn't mean you'll like The Big Lebowski sight-gag with 100% more ponies.

The miniatures look off to me. Maybe it's a natural consequence of trying to translate the art style, but I think they need more work. It might be the legs, it might be the faces, I couldn't really say.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Perhaps, but just because you like The Big Lebowski doesn't mean you'll like The Big Lebowski sight-gag with 100% more ponies.

If you don't like the series, that's fine. Just don't pretend that your superficial belief that the series is just for girls is in any way accurate. Madoka Magica is another series in the same boat: it looks like just another magical girl series at first glance, but you cannot judge the series by that first glance.

 AlexHolker wrote:
Madoka Magica is another series in the same boat: it looks like just another magical girl series at first glance, but you cannot judge the series by that first glance.

Children's programming rarely airs at 1am.

All it takes is one concerned parent who knows anything about cloppers walking into an FLGS with their kids and seeing your typical neckbeard playing with MLP minis to do irreparable damage to that FLGS, the local gaming scene, and anyone associated with it.

What do you guys think is going to happen to the younger nerds out there who get end up associated once word of mouth gets around town that those guys at the game store are bronies?

I watched christian kids get their ass kicked for playing "satanic" role-playing games by jockish ill-informed teens in the late 80's, this could very well end up the same way in some places.

If anyone is being selfish, it is the bronies that would carelessly brand the rest of the flgs with their fandom.

Swabby wrote:
All it takes is one concerned parent who knows anything about cloppers walking into an FLGS with their kids and seeing your typical neckbeard playing with MLP minis to do irreparable damage to that FLGS, the local gaming scene, and anyone associated with it.

You think an concerned parent is going to freak out due to ponies but think sex demons, rape-monsters, gratuitous cheesecake, models with 50% moar skulls and all sorts of depictions of fantasy and sci-if violence is peachy?

What do you guys think is going to happen to the younger nerds out there who get end up associated once word of mouth gets around town that those guys at the game store are bronies?

nothing? Where do you live? Mayberry? What is this "word of mouth" to get around what town? No one cares... If you really are freaking out that being in a room with a pony model will somehow destroy your self image and ruin your life and that some uppity parent is going to break into song in the store about "Trouble, that starts with T which rhymes with P that stands for Ponies!", then you have a pretty heavy delusion going on.

Swabby wrote:
All it takes is one concerned parent who knows anything about cloppers walking into an FLGS with their kids and seeing your typical neckbeard playing with MLP minis to do irreparable damage to that FLGS, the local gaming scene, and anyone associated with it.

What do you guys think is going to happen to the younger nerds out there who get end up associated once word of mouth gets around town that those guys at the game store are bronies?

I watched christian kids get their ass kicked for playing "satanic" role-playing games by jockish ill-informed teens in the late 80's, this could very well end up the same way in some places.

If anyone is being selfish, it is the bronies that would carelessly brand the rest of the flgs with their fandom.

That's... almost incoherent.

Seriously, the "typical neckbeard" is fine, but being associated with "Bronies" that's the bridge too far which have "kids get their ass kicked"?

Really? Yeah, 'cause jocks man, they are totally down with the neckbeards that only play 40k/WM/Inf...

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Silver lining to these threads however is, that once the dust settles, all it takes is 10 minutes of you, the thread, and copious use of the 'ignore' button to make your future dakka experience just that much smoother again

 scarletsquig wrote:

As for the pedo comment, that's just horribly misinformed, bronies aren't interested in human females of any age... they don't have hooves.

So...we're talking Beastiality?

....

So when are they makeing a draconequus and a Changeling equus queen?

XD

I would reply to the stupid stuff said here but there is no point. Im just going to enjoy and love what I enjoy. Haters are not going to stop me.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I would reply to the stupid stuff said here but there is no point. Im just going to enjoy and love what I enjoy. Haters are not going to stop me.

Hey! We only play with tiny men around these parts. We don't welcome the wirdos who feel the need to play with tiny ponies!


XD

Swabby wrote:
All it takes is one concerned parent who knows anything about cloppers walking into an FLGS with their kids and seeing your typical neckbeard playing with MLP minis to do irreparable damage to that FLGS, the local gaming scene, and anyone associated with it.

What do you guys think is going to happen to the younger nerds out there who get end up associated once word of mouth gets around town that those guys at the game store are bronies?

I watched christian kids get their ass kicked for playing "satanic" role-playing games by jockish ill-informed teens in the late 80's, this could very well end up the same way in some places.

If anyone is being selfish, it is the bronies that would carelessly brand the rest of the flgs with their fandom.

My FLGS regularly sells MLP stuff. Cards, Grab Bags, one of the cashiers even bought a couple of cases of RD energy rink out of her own pocket to sell at the store with no profit.
my FLGS embraces bronies

Do you pro-pony folks at least understand that there is a wide misunderstanding out there about the sexual connotations of the bronie phenomena?

I'm not trying to offend here, I am simply stating that there are quite a few ignorant people out there who do not take these things lightly.

Yes and they also realised those people tend to not be bothered with. Remember, this is "Murica. We can do what we damn well please aslong as we are not hurting anyone.
And the worst I heard was that it meant I was gay, nothing more

Well that aside... what's up with their faces? I've seen MLP toys that got the faces right, even though they're translating a 2d subject in a 3d medium. Is it because they're trying to look not-MLP that's why the faces are horrifying?

Thoughts?

They might not be worth hanging out with but their children under their control might be. I would argue that there would be parents who would ban their kids from stores over this.

This really isn't about the bronies perspective, but rather how they are percieved.

@All:

The thread is not a referendum on whether it is okay to like X.

If you do not have anything to say about the models themselves or the structure/value of the Kickstarter, please refrain from posting.

Okay, so looking at the images again, bronies help a dakkanaut out.

The "string 2" ponies are the main MLP:FIM that is going on right now yes? The 'string 1' seems to be more like the old late 80s series yes?

 Alfndrate wrote:
Okay, so looking at the images again, bronies help a dakkanaut out.

The "string 2" ponies are the main MLP:FIM that is going on right now yes?

Yes, those are the six main characters.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Silver lining to these threads however is, that once the dust settles, all it takes is 10 minutes of you, the thread, and copious use of the 'ignore' button to make your future dakka experience just that much smoother again

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I would reply to the stupid stuff said here but there is no point. Im just going to enjoy and love what I enjoy. Haters are not going to stop me.

Indeed, the post I made earlier was not exactly my feelings on the matter but rather an overview of why bronies are disliked. If you wanna brony then that's your business.

Swabby wrote:
Do you pro-pony folks at least understand that there is a wide misunderstanding out there about the sexual connotations of the bronie phenomena?

I'm not trying to offend here, I am simply stating that there are quite a few ignorant people out there who do not take these things lightly.

Indeed, it is a misunderstanding of the culture in general, but it does exist in a visible manner.

 Manchu wrote:
@All:

The thread is not a referendum on whether it is okay to like X.

If you do not have anything to say about the models themselves or the structure/value of the Kickstarter, please refrain from posting.

Sound advice - please follow it.

This is pretty much exactly what I've been looking for!

My daughter is completely infatuated with my little pony. I've been buying those little bones figures for her to paint and she's happy painting whatever I give her, but this is just perfect!

And as for IP issues, f*** em. The way Hasbro has handled the marketing of the My Little Pony stuff is completely reprehensible. The fact that I can walk into a store in the mall today and buy a shirt that will fit my middle aged fat ass but not one for my 5 year old daughter is a complete and total disgrace.

W t f?

I don't have any interest in the models (or the tv show) themselves, but I find the vitriol being spewed at them frankly ridiculous. The idea that we geeks should be judgmental about other geeks is pretty silly, and the ignorant redneck nonsense about 'girls stuff' is just sad.

This sort of niche product is exactly the sort of thing that's ideal for kickstarter - it's a product that would be difficult to fund any other way, but if there's a market for it those people can become backers and it will happen.

I'm not backing, because I have no use for the models, but good luck to the creator and I hope it succeeds.

Pete

pgmason wrote:
I don't have any interest in the models (or the tv show) themselves, but I find the vitriol being spewed at them frankly ridiculous. The idea that we geeks should be judgmental about other geeks is pretty silly, and the ignorant redneck nonsense about 'girls stuff' is just sad.

This sort of niche product is exactly the sort of thing that's ideal for kickstarter - it's a product that would be difficult to fund any other way, but if there's a market for it those people can become backers and it will happen.

I'm not backing, because I have no use for the models, but good luck to the creator and I hope it succeeds.

Agreed.

I helped a friend at Toronto's Fan Expo this year, and it was my first ever convention experience. I saw a ton of amazing costumes, and most of those who didn't have some kind of costume going on were either rocking a favourite jersey or t-shirt.

The mindset I went in with wasn't that they had to like things I liked, but that we both has passion for things. For some of them it was sports, for others miniatures games, or comic books, or sci-fi, or anime, or Doctor Who, or ponys, or whatever. It didn't matter if I knew anything about the thing(s) they were passionate about, that interest and enthusiasm was our common ground, and I had some really interesting conversations with people who were representing things I knew almost nothing about.

So, yeah, I don't have any use for pony miniatures, but I wish the campaign well and hope their fans get an exemplary product in a reasonable time frame.

So much drama, for only 27 backers and £1,200 raised so far . It will probably fund the very low goal by the end, but it's just not really a big deal either way. If you don't like it, just vote with your wallet and don't back it.

Thing is I think it would have a hell lot of backers if the sculpts are decent. Frankly, they're not.

I don't understand why, but i actually really want these.

I thought they looked cool and have pledged.

They won't be painted in pastel colours and they will get a modicum of conversion... but I think that they will make good cavalry mounts.

As for all the other rubbish that has been spouted here... there are some people who really need to lie down on a leather couch, talk to the nice person with the clip-board and get some issues off their chest

WOW!

Swabby wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

That strikes me as a rather selfish way of looking at things. Why should what these people do amongst themselves reflect badly on you?

It isn't selfish, it is realistic. If I hang out in a place where people are doing things that others do not like, even if I do not participate, I still have to deal with the stigma that comes along with hanging out in that place.

ah, I can sympathise, I've had to walk into a GW store before too. wouldn't want to get tainted with the stigma of playing their stuff.


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just looking at the comments about MLP being aimed at young girls so grown men liking it is weird (I don't like it btw), the GW games are aimed at roughly the 8-13 year old boys, so just as weird for grown men to like it, no? I can't see any company turning down sales because they are not from their target audience! Just because something is aimed at one group, doesn't mean others cannot like it too.

me me me me me me me I want it I want it I want it I want it me me me me...

sorry about that...
I loved MLP as a child and... its like nostalgia today... and I will make a pony army and crush all who oppose me

I realy dont care for the series 1. What level just gets me just the series 2 style ponies?

I don't think you can just get string 2 by itself

(although you could email the project creator and ask)

at the moment your best bet is

Stable Door £10 (gives you one random string 1 pony and covers all international postage)

then add an extra £14 for string 2

total £24

 Lockark wrote:
I realy dont care for the series 1. What level just gets me just the series 2 style ponies?

I'll buy the string 1 ponies from you

I extend that offer to anyone

 scarletsquig wrote:
^ Hopefully she'll be in there somewhere, they do mention muffins a lot!

I have to say, really impressed by the sculpting quality on this one, the mane 6 in particular are really nicely done.

Depending on scale, I would just put the blind bag models on bases.

Eh I want these
blindbags aren't good enough for me


maybe they'll make some of the villains, like Tirek and the Smooze and Discord?

(ooh I also hope for sea ponies and flutter ponies)

Yeah, I am watching to see if they do any adaptations of the mythical beasts. I would really like a Discord figure. It is a neat character design.

To be fair I could just get a bunch of Muk and Grimer pokemon figures and make my own smooze (add some green stuff and presto- Smooze to ravage Ponyland)

Rainbow Dash wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
I realy dont care for the series 1. What level just gets me just the series 2 style ponies?

I'll buy the string 1 ponies from you

I extend that offer to anyone

Top pony!

nkelsch wrote:Yeah, I am watching to see if they do any adaptations of the mythical beasts. I would really like a Discord figure. It is a neat character design.

We'll do goat headed demigods and elemantal wolves after the kickstarter... If it's successful. Read the FAQ!

Gangnam style muffin loving pony might be on the cards, if I can get it done before the end of the kicksarter and as the shared exclusive freebie along with the mare maid.

I still suggest sea ponies and flutter ponies...

but the fact these exist, and I have a job at the right time is... still lovely (still selling GW junk to get more money... lol)

it just occurred to me I'll have to make some terrain... like Paradise Estates or... what was their castle called... Dream Castle? it's been awhile, better go dig up those VHS'

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I don't think you can just get string 2 by itself

(although you could email the project creator and ask)

at the moment your best bet is

Stable Door £10 (gives you one random string 1 pony and covers all international postage)

then add an extra £14 for string 2

total £24

alright, that got me to cave. I even went in for the Cornulae for good measure. Sorry to say I'm not a cool old school brony/pegasister like rainbow dash.
=P

eh we can't all be as big of a fan as me lol, don't beat yourself up over it

All the anit-brony stuff aside, am I the only one who thinks the actual sculpts are bulbous and really low quality?

 Jimsolo wrote:
All the anit-brony stuff aside, am I the only one who thinks the actual sculpts are bulbous and really low quality?

they look more cartoonish which... is really the appeal to them
plenty of companies make normal horses and ponies, but to make a brightly coloured pony army based off an 80s cartoon... kind of have to have miniatures to match, and these ones do

you're not going to ruin my love and excitement for this
(look a the toys and look at the mini's)

I'm all for cartoonish, but I've seen the MLP happy meal toys with sculpts much more cuter than these.



I want to get into this because, although I don't like MLP at all I have tons of friends (both girls and boys), nieces and nephews who likes MLP and buying into this will solve my Christmas shopping.

yeah some look more G1 inspired, as you see Applejack up there...also hence why I kept making reference to Paradise Estates and suggesting Flutter Ponies.
I also think sculpting them like G4's would have Hasbro's lawyers comin' a knockin' (though if brony's weren't a thing I don't think they would, but since they are getting so much money they don't want to loose money)
(Remember Fighting is Magic)

that also leads me to my somewhat dislike of FiM toys for not looking enough like horses, sure they solved the beak problem 3.5 had but...

I'm not saying that My Little Pony minis are a terrible idea. The number of bronies on Dakka clearly indicates a market for that sort of stuff. I've even got a squad where I wouldn't mind having one.

That being said, the minis don't look like My Little Ponies. The MLPs are cutesie and stylized, but these look more bulbous and exaggerated. Less MLP, more Mark Bagley at his most extreme.

I'm still wondering how I am gonna make Paradise Estates
(sure I could make Dream Castle, would certainly be easier but the Smooze got that in the movie and they gave it to Danny DiVito at the end)
I was eternally afraid I would have to get dozens of that reaper evil pony toy and covert it over and over *shudder*
though I will be converting manes so the ponies will have more looks (and its fun) it'll be my first real painting log

I also must say whomever styled those ponies' hair above did a really good job...I may never know because that was probably taken from google images...

You can just buy them can't you? I'd imagine there would still be toy sets around on Ebay and what have you.

Bergil wrote:
You can just buy them can't you? I'd imagine there would still be toy sets around on Ebay and what have you.

yes except Paradise Estate was released in 1985/86, coming with a lot of accessories and to find one complete or even in semi decent shape is rather tricky nowadays (Dream Castle is even older-the original coming out in 1983) not to mention expensive. Like Forgeworld expensive
and the scale wouldn't be right (not that I would object in owning either of those playsets-for my collection)

No I must create my own Paradise Estate for my little ponies

 Rainbow Dash wrote:

yes except Paradise Estate was released in 1985/86, coming with a lot of accessories and to find one complete or even in semi decent shape is rather tricky nowadays (Dream Castle is even older-the original coming out in 1983) not to mention expensive. Like Forgeworld expensive
and the scale wouldn't be right (not that I would object in owning either of those playsets-for my collection)

No I must create my own Paradise Estate for my little ponies

Fair enough, when you get round to it post a project page about it. Would be interesting to see.

Right, time for a scale shot:



And because I could:

"Feed, my children"




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Cheers for the scale pics

They look to be the perfect size for 'diminutive' folk to use them for cavalry mounts.

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O my yog. Those are some of the creepiest minis I have ever seen. Are you going to release some in this state? Because those things are terrifying.

The WIP look great. Happy to see more of the String 2 style.

Bergil wrote:

We'll do goat headed demigods and elemantal wolves after the kickstarter... If it's successful. Read the FAQ!

Gangnam style muffin loving pony might be on the cards, if I can get it done before the end of the kicksarter and as the shared exclusive freebie along with the mare maid.

What about Evil shape shifting fey ponies as a enemy for my normal ponies to fight ageist?
:3

Those of you who are interested in this KS might be interested in the figures Tom Meier of Thunderbolt Mountain makes, based on some of his children's ideas.
Not trying to draw attention away from the KS, it just seems slightly relevant (I don't know jack about MLP, my Star Wars figures hunted my sister's ponies for sale on the black market )

Noraland:
http://www.thunderboltmountain.com/collections/all/noraland

Theoland:
http://www.thunderboltmountain.com/collections/all/theoland

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Spoiler:

Bergil wrote:


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O my yog. Those are some of the creepiest minis I have ever seen. Are you going to release some in this state? Because those things are terrifying.

The Ponies of Tindalos.

Ia! Ia!

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Bergil wrote:


O my yog. Those are some of the creepiest minis I have ever seen. Are you going to release some in this state? Because those things are terrifying.

Creepy, really? No, they're WIP, or work in progress miniatures. Good to know they're terrifying. I mean the idea of being kicked, bitten and blown apart by magical bolts doesn't appeal to me either.