So I saw a thread that this on Warseer and was wondering what Dakka's thoughts on the subject:

Personally I'd like them to make their rules to be completaly 40k legal [as in having to be allowed in tormaments] and pre-heresy Dark Angels.

The Fallen.

Lower their prices.

My damn Sanguinus model already!!

Eldercaveman wrote:
My damn Sanguinus model already!!

Konrad Curze too!

 filbert wrote:
Lower their prices.

Oh you.

 sing your life wrote:
So I saw a thread that this on Warseer and was wondering what Dakka's thoughts on the subject:

Personally I'd like them to make their rules to be completaly 40k legal [as in having to be allowed in tormaments] and pre-heresy Dark Angels.

Their rules are 40k legal. They can't force anyone to use them; it all depends on what the TO decides. And pre-heresy DA is (no offence) a pretty boring idea, for the simple reason they are already planning to do them in the next few years!

O and I'll do the mandatory one.....


Squats...

-Shrike- wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
So I saw a thread that this on Warseer and was wondering what Dakka's thoughts on the subject:

Personally I'd like them to make their rules to be completaly 40k legal [as in having to be allowed in tormaments] and pre-heresy Dark Angels.

Their rules are 40k legal. They can't force anyone to use them; it all depends on what the TO decides. And pre-heresy DA is (no offence) a pretty boring idea, for the simple reason they are already planning to do them in the next few years!

What I meant was that any Forge world units count as having come from the Army's original codex.

Also I want my DA now!!!!

sing your life wrote:

What I meant was that any Forge world units count as having come from the Army's original codex.

Also I want my DA now!!!!

They already do. And jesus, be patient.

How would people feel about Forge World handling 50k after they are done with 30k?

Hardcore pornography.


Then after that, more Imperial Guard. I like the DKOK but they're pretty atypical...the average Imperial Guardsman isn't grown in a vat and wears a rebreather.

 dreamakuma wrote:
The Fallen.

This... i know the fluff states that they aren't really an army per se, but something with some focus on The Fallen.

Also, open up a goddamn casting center in North America.

MK8 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As per Jes G's sketch.

I would like to see a Gargant, or even a Great Gargant. Also an Eldar Knight Stallion upgrade for the Wraithknight would be awesome.

Stop doing this 30k nonsense and start producing Savlar Chem dog Imperial Guard models and Thousand sons upgrade kits

I want them to do some Rough riders, with options for dragoons, hussars and carabiners rather than just lancers.

What would i like Forge World to do?

Drop the price by 20%

Adeptus Mechanicus.
I know they're doing Legio Cybernetica, but I want to see more from the tech priests of mars.

A Mk. IV Blood Angels Dreadnought. Some BA vehicle doors and Icons that just feature blood drops and skulls, no winged chalices(!).

I'd also like them to do bits packs. I don't like the regular MK IV torsos, shoulder pads or back packs, so to just be able to buy say 10 MK. IV leg pairs would be really handy.

Drop Da Prices!!!!!
Their stuff are sooo much!

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

sing your life wrote:

What I meant was that any Forge world units count as having come from the Army's original codex.

Also I want my DA now!!!!

And jesus, be patient.

But I wants it now!!!

[this is a joke in case you were wondering]

Lower their prices.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Lower their prices.

I see what you did there.........

Truescale kits

Become the premium, veteran's section of GW in its entirety, complete with general modelling tutorial books that cover cleaning, converting and sculpting, and ones that cover painting beyond the standard base, shade and highlight.

Also, fold 'Eavy Metal, the real one that painted to the highest standard and gave excellent tutorials and guides on doing so, into FW and let GW keep only those painters who really can't do any better. It's not right to hire people for their painting skills and then force them to keep it "simple" and "achievable".

Not put all of their resources into Warhammer 30k.

It's really depressing hearing that they've put all other projects on hold to just churn out bloody space marines with little rivets in different places on their armour.

Let's be having some Warhammer Fantasy, just for a change :(

Raise their prices, a lot.

I want my FW models to be on even value with gold troy ounces.



Some wicked looking genestealer and cult models would be great. Proper AdMech stuff would also be most welcome. (not the cybernetica stuff) I have no interest in the 30k stuff so IMO it's a huge devotion of the FW focus to stuff I have no use for.

More Tau stuff, like more vehicles and tanks. And some kroot stuff too.
And Jetbikes that dont look like flying trains

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

And Jetbikes that dont look like flying trains

Flying trains, are cool.

Stop making such beautiful kits for everything they touch.

My wallet, it cries.

1. My Primarch, Corax.

2. Marcus Valerius, Praefector of the Therion Cohort (Imperial Army) from the audio drama Raven's Flight.

3. Peto Soneka and Hurtado Bronzi from the Geno Five-Two Chiliad regiment of the Imperial Army in Legion (fought with the Alpha Legion).

4. New Raven Guard special characters. A Chapter Master or Captain called Edithae would be cool.

5. Freeze their prices. I could learn to live with their prices if they would just stop raising them every damn year (this is a problem with GW in general, not sure if it applies to FW too).

For them to stage a palace coup, and throw Kirby off of the top of the Emperor's Palace!

(Forge World models have had more appeal to me than most GW releases for three years now....)

The Auld Grump

Individual Bitz.

I've been trying to build a Farsight Enclaves Battlesuit force for a while now, and I would LOVE to get rid of the blocky XV8 Crisis torso pieces for forgeworld Broadside or Shas'o R'Myr torsos. So much better.

Sadly Forgeworld fails to deliver individual pieces, and the only website I found that sells the Shas'O R'Myr front torso piece also hasn't restocked them since I started this project. Rage.

 marv335 wrote:
Adeptus Mechanicus.
I know they're doing Legio Cybernetica, but I want to see more from the tech priests of mars.

This. They are planning, apparently, to keep expanding the Mechanicum over the course of the Heresy series, but apart from the total craziness(in a good way) of the Magos Dominus, a lot of their other Mechanicum models so far look a little....tame. Not bad by any means, they just don't seem to have the really sinister quality of the better Mechanicus art. That's fine for the Automata and the Thallax I suppose, but I was really hoping with the Secutors and Thralls we'd get to see some of the baroque insanity of JB's Mechanicus art, all stretched flesh, inhuman forms, and anachronisms like candles and quills.

Thunder Armor and other Unification junk would be cool.

Tournament organizers can ban anything they want, and frequently do. Including actual real characters in the codex, restricting the number of legal codex units, etc.

Forge World putting yet another paragraph or 40K sanctioned stamp in their books isn't going to do jack. Quit pretending that Forge World can force anybody to play against you.

Ok, first, price freeze, I'll accept current prices, just don't raise them more.

Secondly, not just making Marine vs Marine stuff the whole time.

Thirdly, some Tzeentch and Slannesh Chaos stuff, and some more Xenos

Fourthly, more Warhammer Fantasy stuff (this most of all)

Fifth, a Thunder Lizard

Actually work on Warhammer Forge stuff.

No new book for 2 years? I'm sorry gut that's bs.

Make an FW equivalent of each Finecast model.

Finish their Horus Heresy series in my lifetime.

 Dinamarth wrote:
Finish their Horus Heresy series in my lifetime.

Pffft, good luck with that.

FW and BL are going to milk that until they are no more.

My request is simple let us paypal. because believe it or not i find some of their prices reasonable in comparison were everything has been going lately.

 Scrub wrote:
Not put all of their resources into Warhammer 30k.

It's really depressing hearing that they've put all other projects on hold to just churn out bloody space marines with little rivets in different places on their armour.

Let's be having some Warhammer Fantasy, just for a change :(

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner...

Female IG.

Sisters of Battle and a properly sized Mephiston.

Their prices are pretty much on par with regular Games Workshop product in Australia.

Seeing as GW don't seem too fussed about it at the moment i would like to see some army specific terrain for both fantasy and 40k.

Gets a little tedious when orks and eldar are figthing over a fortress of redemption or lizardmen and chaos are figthing over an emipire town.

How about a nice set lizardmen kits that all inter link to make a district of a temple city, or a bunch of elegent elven buildings?

To show the rest of the 40k range some love in addition to pre heresy stuff.

Eldar Exodites - give me my dragon riders ffs!

I've been waiting since 2nd ED for Dragon riders and I think FW would do a much better army than GW.

Give me an Imperial Armour book!

Also, please put the d-cannon back on the wraithseer and make my warp hunter ap2 again.

Warhammer Forge needs to grow.

Too much was made of it in the beginning to make you think that it would follow right along with 40K.. but we get a Warhammer Forge e-mail seemingly 1 in every 10 updates. And the last update? Really? A dang troll that no one will ever use? Come on guys.

Finish up the Monstrous Arcanum book, get us our Vampire titan and Lizardmen monsters. Bring the big monsters to the table for storm of magic... and kick out the next book! Come on, it's got to be dwarves vs. goblins, are you waiting for the dwarf release? Sheesh.

Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.

Forgeworld is a 40k reference, why are we so surprised when it focuses on 40k? Especially when GW does the same?

I would suggest that Warhammer Forge becomes a spin off studio of like 6-7 guys and focus on Warhammer stuff and leave the Forgeworld Studio to do their stuff?

They can share production facilities, it's just a different design studio within the overall umbrella of GW Corp ...Just a thought....

Oh and Lower the damn prices!! Funny old thing the stuff I get from Anvil industries is better cast quality and cheaper....figure that one out.

Possible: Make something for someone other than Space Marines?

Impossible:
More Aeronautica Imperialis stuff
54mm Inquisitor scale models
Take over BFG production and development

Stop production of Warhammer Forge stuff as its slowing down the 30k release schedule

Produce a D10 based rule set for 30k.

Develop at least one new race.

More bulk discounts.

Free shipping over £50

Expand expand expand!

I would like a tallarn infantry squad - the metal GW kit is too dated.

Crisis suits that look like the art would also be a bonus.

Mk VIII armor. All of the Mk VIII armor.

Oradow wrote:Individual Bitz.

I've been trying to build a Farsight Enclaves Battlesuit force for a while now, and I would LOVE to get rid of the blocky XV8 Crisis torso pieces for forgeworld Broadside or Shas'o R'Myr torsos. So much better.

Sadly Forgeworld fails to deliver individual pieces, and the only website I found that sells the Shas'O R'Myr front torso piece also hasn't restocked them since I started this project. Rage.

I think that bits and kits does FW bits.

heartserenade wrote:Make an plastic equivalent of each Finecast model.

Fixed it.

Knights!

More Admech!

A compendium of all the 30k admech stuff so I won't need to lug about a half-ton of HHHardbacks to play an army a few releases down the line.

Characterful sculpts for HQ units - IoM, xenos etc etc. Not necessarily rules-supported, but alternatives to make your regular army look that little bit more zazzy.

De-uglification kits for the worst models like Centurions or the Khorne-dozer. Just call them "Mark 2c" or whatever to spare the feelings of the modeler who made 'em.

Alternate Shadow Warrior models and Shade models.

Not waving their stupid swords around.

FW Catachan stuff would be cool

 Kanluwen wrote:


Not waving their stupid swords around.

That's just how EM have assembled the kits, if you don't like it don't copy them.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.

Didn't the nids get done in the FW apoc book?

The riders for the Skaven Wolfhounds would be nice.

Very nice drawing, You made this very beautifully.

 sing your life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:


Not waving their stupid swords around.

That's just how EM have assembled the kits, if you don't like it don't copy them.

There's no alternatives. Go and look at the sprue breakdown on the GW site. The only "firing bow arms" in the box are the Sisters of Avelorn, and several of those are actually attached to the front torso.

I second the call for Mk. 8 Errant armour.

I'd like to see more Xenos, perhaps new xenos specific to Forgeworld.

Their own take on Thunderwolves

Bjorn the fell handed

rogue trader army stuff - bodyguards etc

I'd like them to speed up production so we're not still waiting for primarchs in 2020.

bring out BFG fleets for 30k and maybe some epic stuff the way ebay prices are it would be cheaper

I'm fine with how their prices are at the moment, in some cases it's better than GW (3 of those wonderful Thallax models for £28 that make excellent Obliterator proxies when actual Obliterators are £33 at GW?), so I'm ok with that.

Less focussing on 30K stuff. We've got all the main things like MKII-VI armour, but now they're releasing stuff that's too specific, like the Sons of Horus Reaver Attack Squad. Why couldn't they just make an upgrade kit and leave it at that?

Re-release the huge range of terrain they once had. You could get buildings, bunkers, little extras like minefields or roads etc. Now there is a grand total of 2 items that don't need a bloody RoB board, one of which costs >£700.

 Valkyrie wrote:


Less focussing on 30K stuff. We've got all the main things like MKII-VI armour, but now they're releasing stuff that's too specific, like the Sons of Horus Reaver Attack Squad. Why couldn't they just make an upgrade kit and leave it at that?

Re-release the huge range of terrain they once had. You could get buildings, bunkers, little extras like minefields or roads etc. Now there is a grand total of 2 items that don't need a bloody RoB board, one of which costs >£700.

This.

Also, I would like to see a range of models for behind the frontline. Give me Imperial Nobles, gangers, Arbites, Administratum Savants, Navigators, the common citizenry, weird servitor constructs, local transportation, commercial shuttles, mutant slaves, Ork Freebooters, Loxatl mercenaries, etc.

Bring the 40k universe's rich tapestry of everyday to life, rather than focusing on minor variants of Marine armour.

As I understand it they stopped the terrain because it just didn't sell.

Anyway, I would like to see them do more smaller forces. Give us forces that are just too small for GW to make a codex for.
Eldar Exodites & Pirates. Just some upgrade kits would be nice.

Arbites. 1 or 2 judge minis, some cyber mastiffs, a few upgrade kits for guard (Arbite troops & SWAT elites) and rhinos (Some sort of battering ram/crowd control heavy slot), a some guys on bikes (Fast attack).

Stealer Cults. Magus, some hybrid upgrade bits and job done.

Lots more of these allies forces. They don't need many minis, mostly upgrade packs and rules. If your buying FW you are likely to be wanting to do allot of scratch building anyway.

Well, I think the HH stuff is sexy as heck, and that the books are great too. So full speed ahead there as far as I'm concerned. I play xenos armies almost exclusively now, but I'd rather see more primarchs and new units than the odd new big bug or ork vehicle. The armor variants people are complaining about are basically done already...now they're working on the speciality units.

Regarding the terrain, that had to have been more of a strategic, corporate decision to put FW's focus on minis and push plastic terrain through GW proper. You can't tell me that none of the FW terrain pieces sold well. Our club has tons of them. Some of them go for *insane* prices on eBay. Maybe the range needed a strong culling, but there's no way that the top 10-20 pieces weren't good sellers or profitable. It's probably just more profitable for GW to sell plastic terrain, and they don't want FW playing in that sandbox other than to support the GW RoB board.

Epic

Hell, just hand over all the Specialist Games.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I'm fine with how their prices are at the moment, in some cases it's better than GW (3 of those wonderful Thallax models for £28 that make excellent Obliterator proxies when actual Obliterators are £33 at GW?), so I'm ok with that.

I think the problem is GW prices you can then get a 15-20% discount on top when shopping around. Plus with Forge World there is a fairly high shipping cost.

 gorgon wrote:

Regarding the terrain, that had to have been more of a strategic, corporate decision to put FW's focus on minis and push plastic terrain through GW proper. You can't tell me that none of the FW terrain pieces sold well. Our club has tons of them. Some of them go for *insane* prices on eBay. Maybe the range needed a strong culling, but there's no way that the top 10-20 pieces weren't good sellers or profitable. It's probably just more profitable for GW to sell plastic terrain, and they don't want FW playing in that sandbox other than to support the GW RoB board.

Take this with a pinch of salt if you want, but I was told pretty early on that the reason for culling it back to RoB tiles had nothing to do with the plastic terrain.
It had everything to do with stock management--and I can believe it. Some pieces like the Hydra Flak Emplacement and Tarantula Sentry Dugout(Hydra having released around Imperial Armour: Guard and Navy and the dugout releasing with Taros) were purportedly "popular" but they did two or three runs on the items before stopping production and still had stock going into 2010.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:


Not waving their stupid swords around.

That's just how EM have assembled the kits, if you don't like it don't copy them.

There's no alternatives. Go and look at the sprue breakdown on the GW site. The only "firing bow arms" in the box are the Sisters of Avelorn, and several of those are actually attached to the front torso.

You could give them bows from the HE archers.

 sing your life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:


Not waving their stupid swords around.

That's just how EM have assembled the kits, if you don't like it don't copy them.

There's no alternatives. Go and look at the sprue breakdown on the GW site. The only "firing bow arms" in the box are the Sisters of Avelorn, and several of those are actually attached to the front torso.

You could give them bows from the HE archers.

Not without significant resculpting work seeing as how the HE Archers and Spearmen are absolute garbage.

I'd like to see more renegades, in particular more devotees of nurgle and/or slaanesh. Also, more guard tanks and planes. And more guard super heavies.

And make the malcador/macharius better.

I would love if the Damocles rhino became a gw kit (and stick it in the codex). but it is hella easy to convert, anyway. Also, plombing the xenos races a bit more would not hurt anyone. Also. drop the prices


ouch sorry about that epic quadruple post. internet problems....

Still waiting on the Tzeentch and Slaanesh upgrade kits.

What ever happened to that rumour of an Imperial Armour book based around Tzeentch forces and a giant asteroid prison? Sure it had something to do with the Thousand Sons, may have completely made the asteroid prison up.

 Largeblastmarker wrote:
I would love if the Damocles rhino became a gw kit (and stick it in the codex). but it is hella easy to convert, anyway. Also, plombing the xenos races a bit more would not hurt anyone. Also. drop the prices


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You can say that again.....

I would like to see some more elder corsair kits. Corsair Prince (especially since Autarch kits are monopose...)
Corsair Venom upgrade kit. maybe a couple of other unique options.

Also Special Characters that are already published. The farseer from Mymeara and Bran Redmaw (with wolf form)

Lower the prices.

Make sure people understand the rules are legal.

More Chaos stuff.

 Imposter101 wrote:
Lower the prices.

Make sure people understand the rules are legal.

More Chaos stuff.

This is a people issue, not a forge world issue.

 Kirasu wrote:
I'd like them to speed up production so we're not still waiting for primarchs in 2020.

For that they'd have to hire more sculptors, but in order to do that they have to restructure their hiring procedures. It's pretty hard to get past a GW recruiter these days, even if you are a good/great sculptor.

I know of several excellent sculptors who've applied for positions at FW but just get the "run around" from the GW recruiters. One guy I know was being led on for several months before he just gave up and went back to freelancing. They need to leave hiring of sculptors and artists to the studio managers themselves and get it out of the hands of a grunt-recruiter who might not know what to look for.

I know you need to make the hiring process a certain way so you can recruit/hire the people who truly want the job and will work for it, but if you can't look at someone's portfolio of work and make a decision as to whether or not they are a good sculptor then there's a problem with the people reviewing the applications/portfolios.

I know some people will say that sculpting GW models takes different skills and they have a different style that needs to be learned, but most sculptors can learn and adapt to new styles, that's why you have a training period (which GW does).

 Steve steveson wrote:
Stealer Cults. Magus, some hybrid upgrade bits

 paulson games wrote:
Some wicked looking genestealer and cult models would be great.

One of the sculptors I know is working on some "not-Genestealer" cultists right now, he's trying to get them done before Christmas. Oddly enough he also used to sculpt for GW/FW/SG in the past, but was also one of the guys I mentioned above that recently applied to FW and got led on by the recruiter.

Increase quality control.

And bulk out the Elysian range.. Give us the missing heavy weapon options already! And that drop commissar!

Slaanesh and tzeentch terminator and squad upgrade options, add a heavy weapon to the kakophoni set to represent blastmasters, oh and drop the points on a decimator by about 30-50. I'd also love if they would get on with that second warhammer forge book, started assembling stuff for an orcs and goblins army and that book could well be just what I need to really have fun with it.

Stop ignoring the prices rule, It isn't funny.

how about lower the ammount of money?

 sing your life wrote:
Stop ignoring the prices rule, It isn't funny.

Are you seriously trying to impose rules about what people can say on a forum, because you don't like what people are saying? Good luck with that.

With regards Forgeworld price is always going to be a top if not the top ongoing issue, so don't be surprised when alot of people want to talk about that,

I've never had a problem with their prices. Their stuff is a better quality and I love the detail they put into the models, so I'm fine with paying more. (Terrain is the only place where I just see the prices were too high. I loved the Anphelion compound, but it was like $1800... a little too much.)

+1 to expanding the Elysian range, give us some more from the Elysians please. That would be cool.

+1 to Chaos Renegades, especially since they can see use in the Chaos Space Marine Codex

+1 to terrain sets (Although I'd also point out that they didn't seem to ever sell well, but maybe make stuff that isn't a 'buy the whole set' or nothing thing. I like their table squares they're making for the realm of battle, keep pumping those out.

Stormhammer, Stormhammer, all day long

They should have made that model or a conversion kit for the plastic baneblade chassis ages ago! Twin turreted goodness, its my favourite GW tank of all time.

But why stop there, make more Epic tanks in 40K scale please, with 30K being flavour of the month at the moment what about bringing back some war machines from the original Adeptus Mechanicus game; the Capitol Imperialis, Helbore and Termite transports.

A Leviathan mobile command centre would be sweet too. ''What's that, only 600 quid you say? Bargain...'' That's not a jibe on prices by the way, i'm not daft enough to know that something that big would cost the same as a titan if not more!

Also the Gaunt's Ghosts series makes mention of some cool tanks used by the forces of Chaos that would be great to see on the table top; the Urdeshi pattern Reaver, Brigand and SteG 4.

That's my wishlist anyway!

My Khemric Titan.

Two things I want:

1) More non-Heresy releases. Yes, they're great marine models, but we aren't even getting IG stuff anymore. Instead of making a million slightly different power armor variants let's see FW come up with something new and different.

2) Better rules. Let's be honest, FW's rules suck. Typos are common, balance is nonexistent, updates are absurdly slow, and sometimes you wonder whether they're even playing the same game as the rest of us (references to 4th/5th edition rules copy/pasted into 6th edition books, units and special rules that only made sense in previous editions, etc). And it's frustrating because this is stuff I could clean up in a day or two, but somehow the professional game designers can't.

 mwnciboo wrote:
With regards Forgeworld price is always going to be a top if not the top ongoing issue, so don't be surprised when alot of people want to talk about that,

It's pointless to talk about because there's nothing new to say. FW have always been expensive, and they always will be. Customers have always wanted lower prices, and they always will. Unless you've got some new insight into the price issue (and you don't) there's nothing to talk about, and it just gets in the way of discussing things that are actually interesting.

How about having better and less misleading titles for books?
And a clear place that says where a unit's latest rules are located (perhaps on the page where you buy the model)?

The quality is fine, the price is fine, I wish they'd flesh out some of the xenos lines before chasing down 30k, but that's because I'm not a huge space marine fan. I just can't stand the current state of how they handle rules.

Scarily, I'm forced to agree with Peregrine about prices. IIRC, most of them haven't really changed since I started playing, which is more than I can say for GW main.

I would like a Necron Sphere that hovers over the battlefield sucking troops into it's underbelly where they get biomasse-shucked and then cranked out as new Necron warriors. Just because the thought of it is hilarious.

- J

Regarding the terrain, that had to have been more of a strategic, corporate decision to put FW's focus on minis and push plastic terrain through GW proper. You can't tell me that none of the FW terrain pieces sold well. Our club has tons of them. Some of them go for *insane* prices on eBay. Maybe the range needed a strong culling, but there's no way that the top 10-20 pieces weren't good sellers or profitable. It's probably just more profitable for GW to sell plastic terrain, and they don't want FW playing in that sandbox other than to support the GW RoB board.

I can believe it. Expensive high-end terrain is just not something that is very popular. Most people either play in stores (and no sane store is going to spend $1000 on a table and let every random kid play with it) or just want the cheapest possible stuff that looks vaguely decent, so the market for FW terrain is the few dedicated hobbyists who have space for a home gaming table and are willing to spend huge amounts of time and money to make it look as nice as possible. And supposedly production costs were really bad since it was big solid blocks of resin, so the profit margins at the price required to get even the sales they had weren't good enough to justify remaking the molds once their stock ran out.

It's unfortunate though, because the old terrain was really nice. I'd love to see it back in production, but I don't think that's a very realistic hope.

Actually, it would be a nice, easy addition to have a constantly updated PDF file with a table of contents listing where the latest rules are for all their models. Simple, easy to do, and takes the burden off the community by having it one click away on the actual site.

That and it would help clear up the issue some people have with FW.

1) Stop focusing solely on Marines/IG, expand Xenos/Ecclesiarchy
2) Step up QC and take their bloody time to properly cast stuff and make sure it doesn't warp
3) Accept Paypal or other modern forms of payment
4) Normal shipping fees instead of flat %

Make a gargant the size of a reaver.Then give me one.And someone said that the prices are reasonable.Has he ever heard of the tau Manta?

Hmm...

More fantasy characters, either fill ins to make up for holes in the GW line especially now with Finecast be pushed out, such as an actual Sorceress on Manticore figure, Hellebron on Manticore etc, multiply that through the various fantasy armies.

More Black Library tie ins, with the amount of Guard players and kits they already do, my mind boggles that no one has thought the Gaunts Ghosts stuff isn't ripe for plundering. Tanith characters themselves, the Blood Pact, Stilt tanks etc etc.


More chapter add on items for the main Loyalist and Traitor chapters. It seems some have loads and some have next to nothing, would love to see that remedied. Also some more stuff on scouts, heck a Tyranid Attack homage with folks like Sgt Reaper would be much appreciated.

Obviously more Xenos.

Would love to see more character building kits, artificer armor, weapons etc. maybe a armor through the ages kit like the GW one but not as bad.

Also Relics and master crafted weapons.

Morathi's darkest sin:actually GW sells some(not nearly enough)gaunts ghost models.Never read the series but I bet all of the models in it except for Gaunt are dead.

Release the Necrofex Colossus already.

More Krieg.

Always more Krieg.

Da krimson barun wrote:
Morathi's darkest sin:actually GW sells some(not nearly enough)gaunts ghost models.Never read the series but I bet all of the models in it except for Gaunt are dead.

I am aware as I still have a couple of them kicking around, unfortunately they are no where near FW in quality, and no longer available anyways. Tbh Gaunt was the only figure in the set worth having, maybe Larkin. But it was Five characters and three random Tanith Guardsmen.

Not the same as having a full list of characters which double out as filling on the spots you'd need for a Tanith army or any other generic forest based Guard force. Hell the thought of folks like Rawne, Tona Criid, Gal Kolea, Banda, Ban Duar, Hark, Mkvenner, Mkoll, hell even Chu to name a few gets me excited just on the possibility of picking them up.

I have banned request to lower prices because they are not constructive to the thread and also If you look FW prices are kind of reasonable (imo)

 Peregrine wrote:

 mwnciboo wrote:
With regards Forgeworld price is always going to be a top if not the top ongoing issue, so don't be surprised when alot of people want to talk about that,

It's pointless to talk about because there's nothing new to say. FW have always been expensive, and they always will be. Customers have always wanted lower prices, and they always will. Unless you've got some new insight into the price issue (and you don't) there's nothing to talk about, and it just gets in the way of discussing things that are actually interesting.

Indeed.

Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.

 filbert wrote:
Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.

Lolwut? All I said is that I'd prefer if people didn't make requests like that.

 sing your life wrote:

 filbert wrote:
Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.

Lolwut? A I said is that I'd prefer if people didn't make request like that?

You said you had 'banned' people from talking about price - that isn't a request, it's an imperative.

And again, semantics aside, you don't get to decide what people discuss. If you post a thread inviting discussion on what people would like FW to do, then you can hardly be surprised when people want to debate their pricing strategy; the two go hand in hand.

I personally think FW prices are verging on obscene for some things, bearing in mind these are still mass produced toy soldiers - it's not like they are hand sculpted in gold or something. These things kind of come into focus when you have to compare them to bills and mortgages. Suddenly, the relative costs of things take on a new meaning.

I think FW would sell a boat load more if they lowered prices. Having said that, I don't think it is their strategy, given that the aim is to make FW the 'premium' brand. Plus, it would be somewhat embarrassing for GW if FW started outselling them if the prices were on a a par. I can't think of an equivalent GW model that I prefer to it's FW counterpart.

 filbert wrote:

 sing your life wrote:

 filbert wrote:
Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.

Lolwut? A I said is that I'd prefer if people didn't make request like that?

You said you had 'banned' people from talking about price - that isn't a request, it's an imperative.

And again, semantics aside, you don't get to decide what people discuss. If you post a thread inviting discussion on what people would like FW to do, then you can hardly be surprised when people want to debate their pricing strategy; the two go hand in hand.

I personally think FW prices are verging on obscene for some things, bearing in mind these are still mass produced toy soldiers - it's not like they are hand sculpted in gold or something. These things kind of come into focus when you have to compare them to bills and mortgages. Suddenly, the relative costs of things take on a new meaning.

I think FW would sell a boat load more if they lowered prices. Having said that, I don;t think it is their strategy, given that the aim seems to make FW the 'premium' brand. Plus, it would be somewhat embarrassing for GW if FW started outselling them if the prices were on a a par. I can't think of an equivalent GW model that I prefer to it's FW counterpart.

Ah, I see.

The difficulty of getting the product is more of a sale-stopper than prices mind.

 sing your life wrote:


Ah, I see.

The difficulty of getting the product is more of a sale-stopper than prices mind.

I would be inclined to order the new Heresy book and a Fulgrim were it not for the stupid 10% shipping they decide to lump on an order. I mean, I'm paying £100+ for a book and a damn plastic figure, you'd think they could eat a couple of quid to post the sodding thing to me. In these days of Amazon and free shipping, it seems incredibly old fashioned and penny pinching to charge a shipping fee, especially when it is a not inconsiderable size of the order. It strikes me as just a way to fleece more money out of people. I feel for those overseas who have to either club together as a gang or spend even more money just to get the free shipping band.

Big FW fan here but in my opinion the prices are far from reasonable.

Eldercaveman wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.

Didn't the nids get done in the FW apoc book?

I meant update the sculpts. IMHO they seem very dated.

To be honest I would like to see Forge World restructure, possibly as a test to see if GW main would do the same.

Model design split into 3 teams, Space Marine / All other Imperial / Xenos (lets be honest Marines will always be their bread and butter and most likely the largest design team)

Writing split into 2 teams, fluff and rules, both teams reporting to a line editor. (one person writing a codex is asinine, especially when he doesn't read or talk to other codices)

Books, I like the IA books, but they could make a campaign book or mission book rather than saying "hey newest campaign rules are in the newest IA book. What you dont want to drop 80 dollars on a book for 20 pages of rules because the rest of the book are faction you dont play?

Modernize the store (paypal, free shipping in line with GW main, better pictures with something to show scale)

Capillary Towers

Terrain, Xenos terrain. Let GW keep producing all the Gothic stuff they want but add some stuff for Tau, Eldar that doesn't involve a RoB.

Perhaps even design some Chaos stuff more original than adding spikes and more skulls to the Gothic version... impossible I know but one can dream.

M.

Sinful Hero wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.

Didn't the nids get done in the FW apoc book?

I meant update the sculpts. IMHO they seem very dated.

Thedragisal wrote:Capillary Towers

I would rather they did this ^^^^

 filbert wrote:
I would be inclined to order the new Heresy book and a Fulgrim were it not for the stupid 10% shipping they decide to lump on an order. I mean, I'm paying £100+ for a book and a damn plastic figure, you'd think they could eat a couple of quid to post the sodding thing to me. In these days of Amazon and free shipping, it seems incredibly old fashioned and penny pinching to charge a shipping fee, especially when it is a not inconsiderable size of the order. It strikes me as just a way to fleece more money out of people. I feel for those overseas who have to either club together as a gang or spend even more money just to get the free shipping band.

What's happening is you're subsidizing the shipping costs for those of us who live outside the UK. International shipping is expensive, your excessive shipping charges allow FW to only charge me 15% (or even 0% sometimes).

Some arms and legs for the hostile environment troopers so I can make them look more like kasrkin. Maybe a small leman russ tank that does not look like the leman russ because man what an ugly tank.

 Peregrine wrote:

 filbert wrote:
I would be inclined to order the new Heresy book and a Fulgrim were it not for the stupid 10% shipping they decide to lump on an order. I mean, I'm paying £100+ for a book and a damn plastic figure, you'd think they could eat a couple of quid to post the sodding thing to me. In these days of Amazon and free shipping, it seems incredibly old fashioned and penny pinching to charge a shipping fee, especially when it is a not inconsiderable size of the order. It strikes me as just a way to fleece more money out of people. I feel for those overseas who have to either club together as a gang or spend even more money just to get the free shipping band.

What's happening is you're subsidizing the shipping costs for those of us who live outside the UK. International shipping is expensive, your excessive shipping charges allow FW to only charge me 15% (or even 0% sometimes).

It doesn't cost that much, especially for a relatively large company that FW that can benefit from cheap postage deals and bulk discounts. Maelstrom Games had free worldwide shipping on all orders and practically every online webstore I have ever used has free shipping. There is no excuse in this day and age to not do it. Adding 10% or 15% on top of what is already very expensive stuff just strikes me as profiteering.

 Mecha_buddha wrote:
To be honest I would like to see Forge World restructure, possibly as a test to see if GW main would do the same.

Model design split into 3 teams, Space Marine / All other Imperial / Xenos (lets be honest Marines will always be their bread and butter and most likely the largest design team)

Writing split into 2 teams, fluff and rules, both teams reporting to a line editor. (one person writing a codex is asinine, especially when he doesn't read or talk to other codices)

Books, I like the IA books, but they could make a campaign book or mission book rather than saying "hey newest campaign rules are in the newest IA book. What you dont want to drop 80 dollars on a book for 20 pages of rules because the rest of the book are faction you dont play?

Modernize the store (paypal, free shipping in line with GW main, better pictures with something to show scale)

That is pretty much how they work anyway, one guy specializes in imperial tanks, etc. Some of the designers are paid per model they do and the rest are full time employees.

The problem is that they do not have a large enough budget to employ enough staff to work at the pace were they can design SM, Ork, Eldar,etc. stuff all at the same time as they cannot afford enough staff on that budget.

The question is if FW has enough demand to increase the number of models that they can release each month and this comes down to what percentage the regular FW buyers (those who buy every month or every other month, I am one of these) make up of their total buyer base for a year. If you are a regular buyer you will have a set budget each month that you have to stick to.

If too many models come out in excess of that budget models FW spent money developing and casting the initial batch aren't going to sell in enough volume to make back their upfront costs. If that happens too often then FW will start to lose money and have to downsize.

The alternate view is that if they diversify their range more casual buyers could spend more on a regular basis and overall sales increase. Only FW know the numbers that would back which theory is correct on this.

Obviously there is the tin foil hat version that would suggest GW doesn't want FW becoming too successful as it makes GW look bad if FW starts making more profit than them.

I'd like them to start doing Epic again, they can shut down all other departments to fund it.

 filbert wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 filbert wrote:
I would be inclined to order the new Heresy book and a Fulgrim were it not for the stupid 10% shipping they decide to lump on an order. I mean, I'm paying £100+ for a book and a damn plastic figure, you'd think they could eat a couple of quid to post the sodding thing to me. In these days of Amazon and free shipping, it seems incredibly old fashioned and penny pinching to charge a shipping fee, especially when it is a not inconsiderable size of the order. It strikes me as just a way to fleece more money out of people. I feel for those overseas who have to either club together as a gang or spend even more money just to get the free shipping band.

What's happening is you're subsidizing the shipping costs for those of us who live outside the UK. International shipping is expensive, your excessive shipping charges allow FW to only charge me 15% (or even 0% sometimes).

It doesn't cost that much, especially for a relatively large company that FW that can benefit from cheap postage deals and bulk discounts. Maelstrom Games had free worldwide shipping on all orders and practically every online webstore I have ever used has free shipping. There is no excuse in this day and age to not do it. Adding 10% or 15% on top of what is already very expensive stuff just strikes me as profiteering.

I second this, as any business with a Franking Account /facility from Royal mail pays significantly less like 40% less than what the public pays.

Equally I believe you can write it off against your Tax Bill as a Business Expense if you offer free Shipping as it's an incurred business cost. So I have no idea why FW charges what it does for shipping. Especially as it could offer Free shipping and write this off against it's tax bill thereby reducing it's tax burden and retaining more of it's profits.

Actually, their prices are better than GW US in many areas. Pricing isn't something they need to focus on IMO. If the dollar was on par to the pound, there wouldn't be as much biching. That is not their fault.

Those talking about FW's postage and that they should be offering free shipping like Amazon, well apparently Amazon lost $2.4 billion last year offering free shipping: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/21/prime-and-punishment/ I know they ship far far more than FW but if a company the size of Amazon can't make free shipping break even then how can a small company like FW do it? Only way for FW to offer free shipping is that FW put up prices to cover the shipping cost.

Now I don't disagree that FW could reduce the cost of shipping as it does get really expensive compared to actual cost especially as you get over the £200 mark. I always make sure that I get over the £250 mark or stick at around £50.

Looky Likey wrote:
Those talking about FW's postage and that they should be offering free shipping like Amazon, well apparently Amazon lost $2.4 billion last year offering free shipping: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/21/prime-and-punishment/ I know they ship far far more than FW but if a company the size of Amazon can't make free shipping break even then how can a small company like FW do it? Only way for FW to offer free shipping is that FW put up prices to cover the shipping cost.

Now I don't disagree that FW could reduce the cost of shipping as it does get really expensive compared to actual cost especially as you get over the £200 mark. I always make sure that I get over the £250 mark or stick at around £50.

The Amazon quote is Meaningless because of its business structure - it makes far more money by being tax efficient - So for example why pay the $2.4billion and then write it off against Tax (in the UK which is 21% of profits) when you can absorb the hit and move your money offshore and pay 1% or less tax. This is called Tax efficiency . So Yes it is a cost, but it's not comparable because you are literally paying negligible tax. Unlike FW / GW unless of course they do transfer pricing (Something I will have to look at!)

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/apr/04/amazon-british-operation-corporation-tax

So why write off the $2.4 Billion on say a $7 Billion Tax bill e.g resulting in $4.6 Tax bill - When you can move it through a secrecy jurisdiction and pay $1Billion Tax and net $6Billion saving even if you absorb the cost of the $2.4Billion shipping you are still $3.6Billion up on the game.

This is how it is done.. http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Documents/Secrecyjurisdiction.pdf using a mechanism call transfer pricing - Google and pretty much all of the Fortune 500 do this.

 mwnciboo wrote:

Looky Likey wrote:
Those talking about FW's postage and that they should be offering free shipping like Amazon, well apparently Amazon lost $2.4 billion last year offering free shipping: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/21/prime-and-punishment/ I know they ship far far more than FW but if a company the size of Amazon can't make free shipping break even then how can a small company like FW do it? Only way for FW to offer free shipping is that FW put up prices to cover the shipping cost.

Now I don't disagree that FW could reduce the cost of shipping as it does get really expensive compared to actual cost especially as you get over the £200 mark. I always make sure that I get over the £250 mark or stick at around £50.

The Amazon quote is Meaningless because of its business structure - it makes far more money by being tax efficient - So for example why pay the $2.4billion and then write it off against Tax (in the UK which is 21% of profits) when you can absorb the hit and move your money offshore and pay 1% or less tax. This is called Tax efficiency . So Yes it is a cost, but it's not comparable because you are literally paying negligible tax.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/apr/04/amazon-british-operation-corporation-tax

So why write off the $2.4 Billion on say a $7 Billion Tax bill e.g resulting in $4.6 Tax bill - When you can move it through a secrecy jurisdiction and pay $1Billion Tax and net $6Billion saving even if you absorb the cost of the $2.4Billion shipping you are still $3.6Billion up on the game.

That link doesn't seem to contain anything that I could see showing that they wrote off their shipping cost because of their tax structure? Being tax efficient and offering free shipping aren't linked, being able to offer free shipping because you are using loop holes with the tax regulations and/or you have massive cash reserves like Amazon doesn't help a small firm like GW/FW offer free shipping.

So how did Maelstrom do it then? Even websites that do charge for shipping charge substantially less than FW do...

@Lookylikey - You compared a Global Mulitnational with Huge profits, and vast tax efficiency to a small Enterprise which is floated on the stock market.

Different rules apply - FW can easily write the cost off against their Tax Bill. Amazon can write off a huge cost with Tax efficiency and still make enormous profits because effectively they don't pay (or pay negligable tax). So to say Amazon suffered a huge expense is a gross mis-representation because it's not a level playing field. They are effectively moaning about something that is actually making them richer - If they declared it via a Tax regime like the US @35% tax they would lose out massively despite being able to offset / write off the $2.4Billion of the cost of the Shipping.

Same result different mechanisms. Some of the lines from big corporations are obfuscating the core issues, by coming up with valid though mis-construed statistics. Yes it did cost them X, but it's meaningless without the bigeer picture.

filbert wrote:So how did Maelstrom do it then? Even websites that do charge for shipping charge substantially less than FW do...

First thing, how are Maelstrom doing these days? Picture of health? They ate into their profit margins offering free shipping and large discounts, ran up large debits then asset stripped the company before it went bust. They are not the model of a successful, sustainable business that anybody should be following.

mwnciboo wrote:@Lookylikey - You compared a Global Mulitnational with Huge profits, and vast tax efficiency to a small Enterprise which is floated on the stock market.

Different rules apply - FW can easily write the cost off against their Tax Bill. Amazon can write off a huge loss with Tax efficiency.

Same result different mechanisms.

So your link doesn't actually contain anything about being able to write off the shipping cost then?

Er no GW/FW can't otherwise ALL UK tax paying businesses would be offering free shipping if it was as simple as writing off costs against their tax bill as it gives you a huge advantage selling online.

Amazon can only afford free shipping due to avoiding paying tax and huge cash reserves. As well Bezos is given huge leeway by the stock market to throw away billions on free shipping as it has helped grow Amazon into a huge multi national. Even with their tax efficiency and cash reserves if the stock market didn't give Bezos the leeway he'd be pushed to drop it or be pushed out as $2.4 billion is a huge number to spend on something you could actually be making money on, how many large multi nationals could turn down $2.4 billion in profit?

At some point Amazon will stop offering free shipping, they have already starting cutting back for super saver and Prime has a number of small items you can no longer get free shipping for.

Also I wasn't the first to bring Amazon into this, other people were stating "if amazon can do it then why not FW".

Looky Likey wrote:
First thing, how are Maelstrom doing these days? Picture of health? They ate into their profit margins offering free shipping and large discounts, ran up large debits then asset stripped the company before it went bust. They are not the model of a successful, sustainable business that anybody should be following.

So you are of the opinion that Maelstrom offering free shipping was the reason behind their demise? Right....

The reasons behind their collapse aside, they operated for many, many years offering free shipping. Other UK webstores operate with free shipping, or at least offer free shipping from time to time. Are you suggesting they are all running at a loss because of that?

Let's flip it on it's head - GW offer free shipping from their own webstore (or given that the threshold is £10, as near as damn it). Are they operating at a loss? Do you not think that if the free shipping cost a substantial amount of revenue, GW would not be the very first people to start charging for shipping given how much they charge for everything else?

 filbert wrote:

Looky Likey wrote:
First thing, how are Maelstrom doing these days? Picture of health? They ate into their profit margins offering free shipping and large discounts, ran up large debits then asset stripped the company before it went bust. They are not the model of a successful, sustainable business that anybody should be following.

So you are of the opinion that Maelstrom offering free shipping was the reason behind their demise? Right....

The reasons behind their collapse aside, they operated for many, many years offering free shipping. Other UK webstores operate with free shipping, or at least offer free shipping from time to time. Are you suggesting they are all running at a loss because of that?

Let's flip it on it's head - GW offer free shipping from their own webstore (or given that the threshold is £10, as near as damn it). Are they operating at a loss? Do you not think that if the free shipping cost a substantial amount of revenue, GW would not be the very first people to start charging for shipping given how much they charge for everything else?

I've bolded the bit in my statement for you in case you've missed it by accident.

You can't operate at low margins and low volume without increased risk. Maelstrom discounted heavily and then compounded that by offering free shipping eating into the margins even more. As soon as they got into trouble (some of it their own making some of it not) they didn't have the cash reserves to draw on (living hand to mouth, buying last month's orders from this month's income) and from there it was a downward spiral.

Again, you can't compare GW to FW without comparing their margins on the goods. GW is selling at RRP via their webstore, most of the "GW friendly" stores (i.e., those on good terms still and not fallen foul of the trade agreements with GW) will be getting about 50% off that. So GW automatically has a 50% margin for selling online plus their normal profit that they'd make selling to stores and minus the shipping cost to the store, that's a huge percentage margin. FW on the other hand have only sold direct in recent memory and operate on a lower margin than GW (as GW have to make a profit even selling to third party stores). FW are also far lower volume than GW, don't have national distribution centers in the US/Europe so their costs per unit are higher as well.

Well, when I can get a new dishwasher delivered the next day and with the old machine being taken away for less than it costs for FW to put a book and a miniature in a box and post it to me, then that says something is deeply wrong to me. You can spin it whichever way you want but I have never found or indeed used, a website or webstore that charges me anything remotely approaching the cost that FW apply for shipping and handling.

Eldercaveman wrote:

Sinful Hero wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.

Didn't the nids get done in the FW apoc book?

I meant update the sculpts. IMHO they seem very dated.

Thedragisal wrote:Capillary Towers

I would rather they did this ^^^^

Why not both?

 filbert wrote:
Well, when I can get a new dishwasher delivered the next day and with the old machine being taken away for less than it costs for FW to put a book and a miniature in a box and post it to me, then that says something is deeply wrong to me. You can spin it whichever way you want but I have never found or indeed used, a website or webstore that charges me anything remotely approaching the cost that FW apply for shipping and handling.

I'm not spinning it any which way. BTW your dishwasher delivery would be subsidized by the margin on the sale price for the dishwasher. Also if you read my earlier posts I've clearly stated that I think past a certain point FW gets far to expensive for delivery.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

Sinful Hero wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.

Didn't the nids get done in the FW apoc book?

I meant update the sculpts. IMHO they seem very dated.

Thedragisal wrote:Capillary Towers

I would rather they did this ^^^^

Why not both?

Don't be greedy

 filbert wrote:

 sing your life wrote:


Ah, I see.

The difficulty of getting the product is more of a sale-stopper than prices mind.

I would be inclined to order the new Heresy book and a Fulgrim were it not for the stupid 10% shipping they decide to lump on an order. I mean, I'm paying £100+ for a book and a damn plastic figure, you'd think they could eat a couple of quid to post the sodding thing to me. In these days of Amazon and free shipping, it seems incredibly old fashioned and penny pinching to charge a shipping fee, especially when it is a not inconsiderable size of the order. It strikes me as just a way to fleece more money out of people. I feel for those overseas who have to either club together as a gang or spend even more money just to get the free shipping band.

£15 isn't too bad when they're shipping you a heavy book and model.

Besides Fulgrim is in resin not plastic, there is a differance.

 sing your life wrote:
£15 isn't too bad when they're shipping you a heavy book and model.

Besides Fulgrim is in resin not plastic, there is a differance.

1) 15GBP shipping is ridiculous when you consider they're shipping it from Nottingham to wherever filbert lives. I shipped IA12 to Sasori from Ohio to Texas and paid 8 dollars for that shipping, I could have paid 4 dollars for the 'book rate' but I needed it to get to him as fast as possible
2) Resin is a type of plastic

Wikipedia wrote:Resin casting is a method of plastic casting where a mold is filled with a liquid synthetic resin, which then hardens. It is primarily used for small-scale production like industrial prototypes and dentistry. It can be done by amateur hobbyists with little initial investment, and is used in the production of collectible toys, models and figures, as well as small-scale jewelry production.

Time of Legends models. Sigmar, Aenarion, a non farcical Nagash. Etc.

What would I like Forge World to do?

Hm... Maybe more Stuff for Warhammer Forge??

Yeah that would be cool. And Lion El Johnson

1st/2nd age LOTR miniatures?(I wish.My wallet dosn't though..)But then again 40k fans would cry because there terminator with different helmet would be delayed.

Im not sure about small orders, but when I order £100 + of stuff, it always comes via UPS, and the price UPS normally charge your average joe, is more than the 10% i pay FW for a lot of it, especially the heavy stuff.
Its also actually cheaper to mail some size parcels abroad than it is within the UK sometimes too, beacuse of the strange sizing system Royal mail uses.

MOAR IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS BLAH BLEE BLOO!!! STEAMPUNK IMPERIAL GUARD WITH KETTLEHATS! AND UPDATE THE FLOOPIN L&TD!

I would love to see what they could do with Deathwatch

 Peregrine wrote:

Let's be honest, FW's rules suck.

Yeah, well so does your Mum.

[This is supposed to be a joke incase you were concerned]

 Eldarain wrote:
Time of Legends models. Sigmar, Aenarion, a non farcical Nagash. Etc.

That would be very neat!

Nazdreg and Zogwort. And a Stompa that doesn't look like it's wearing a dress.

It's not a Stompa unless its wearing a moomoo...

I'd love to see them ramp up production enough and distribute to retailers so they can sell to their players instead of having to do the quarterly orders you see people putting in.

I would love to see FW continue along the path of Warhammer Fantasy battle, I would particualry enjoy seeing more models for Elves, Dwarfs of both flavours. And Empire, an witha dash of Orks & Goblins alongside Skaven and Undead

 mwnciboo wrote:
What would i like Forge World to do?

Drop the price by 20%

Well if the rumours are true forge world will be giving themselves a discount by switching their resin to something way cheaper (unknown if finecast or not) and considering its GW I wouldn't expect prices to go down.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 mwnciboo wrote:
What would i like Forge World to do?

Drop the price by 20%

Well if the rumours are true forge world will be giving themselves a discount by switching their resin to something way cheaper (unknown if finecast or not) and considering its GW I wouldn't expect prices to go down.

Cheaper material = Higher prices.

Mandlebaum and GW must share an understanding of logic.

On a similar note, FW were going to do a black fire pass book, Where's it gone?

Blood Ravens sculpted Shoulder pads, vehicle doors and Gabriel Angleos. Give me those and I will never have money again.

 sing your life wrote:
On a similar note, FW were going to do a black fire pass book, Where's it gone?

Last I read it'd been delayed for two whole years so they can concentrate on releasing important things like... shoulderpads and every variant of space murheen armour under the sun.

Basically, going the most boring route possible. That cow needs milkin' though!

I would love a Storm Talon Variant, like a flamethrower or something.
I want Khan released in my lifetime.
And fresh baked cookies with every order

The great Cthulhu....

For 40k, a book like the Monstrous Arcanum that give some fauna in the 40k world like the Catachan Devil and more book for fantasy.

 Trondheim wrote:
I would love to see FW continue along the path of Warhammer Fantasy battle, I would particualry enjoy seeing more models for Elves, Dwarfs of both flavours. And Empire, an witha dash of Orks & Goblins alongside Skaven and Undead

I like this idea and the one about "Time of Legend" models.

Alith and the Anar family, the original Shadow Warriors(with their enchanted bear pelt cloaks that let them vanish into the terrain), and Anar crests for a new High Elf Spearman/Archer kit would break my bank.

MOAR ADMECH!!!

Even if Kan says we can't have AdMech armies!

Be nice to see some of this Rogue Trader stuff they're working on.

Apart from that my wishes are fulfilled with the legion lists, so continue with that, I guess...

 Deadshot wrote:
Blood Ravens sculpted Shoulder pads

There are already blood raven shoulder pads:

http://chapterhousestudios.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=85&product_id=84

Well inspired by yes, but that's not the Blood Ravens symbol.

 shamikebab wrote:
Well inspired by yes, but that's not the Blood Ravens symbol.

Meh, It's the best we're going to get

I'd love for FW to take over the general running of GW. They understand the concept of listening to the player base and discounting for sale far better than GW corporate.

 sing your life wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:
Well inspired by yes, but that's not the Blood Ravens symbol.

Meh, It's the best we're going to get

Actually DA shoulder pads just need you to paint a red drop in the middle.(I think)

No, I want raised detail, sculpted onto shoulder pads identical to these;
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/SPACE_MARINE_TRANSFER_SHEETS/BLOOD-RAVENS-TRANSFER-SHEET.html

And before anyone asks, I do have the sheet but transfers are difficult to use.


Also, shoulder pads such as these;
https://www.google.com/search?q=space+marine,+video+game,+blood+raven&client=ms-android-hms-tef-gb&source=android-browser&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=r35dUoGfPK2a0QWDv4DIDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAA&biw=360&bih=567#biv=i%7C5%3Bd%7CPUmujtR0jEzK_M%3A

would be welcome for picking out Sergeants and commanders.