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Stop ignoring the prices rule, It isn't funny.

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how about lower the ammount of money?

Blood Ravens, 1700pts

Empire 40 wounds

Astra Militarum 2250pts

Khorne 750pts

Space Wolves 1550pts

Orks 500pts

 
   
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 sing your life wrote:
Stop ignoring the prices rule, It isn't funny.


Are you seriously trying to impose rules about what people can say on a forum, because you don't like what people are saying? Good luck with that.

With regards Forgeworld price is always going to be a top if not the top ongoing issue, so don't be surprised when alot of people want to talk about that,

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I've never had a problem with their prices. Their stuff is a better quality and I love the detail they put into the models, so I'm fine with paying more. (Terrain is the only place where I just see the prices were too high. I loved the Anphelion compound, but it was like $1800... a little too much.)

+1 to expanding the Elysian range, give us some more from the Elysians please. That would be cool.

+1 to Chaos Renegades, especially since they can see use in the Chaos Space Marine Codex

+1 to terrain sets (Although I'd also point out that they didn't seem to ever sell well, but maybe make stuff that isn't a 'buy the whole set' or nothing thing. I like their table squares they're making for the realm of battle, keep pumping those out.




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They should have made that model or a conversion kit for the plastic baneblade chassis ages ago! Twin turreted goodness, its my favourite GW tank of all time.

But why stop there, make more Epic tanks in 40K scale please, with 30K being flavour of the month at the moment what about bringing back some war machines from the original Adeptus Mechanicus game; the Capitol Imperialis, Helbore and Termite transports.

A Leviathan mobile command centre would be sweet too. ''What's that, only 600 quid you say? Bargain...'' That's not a jibe on prices by the way, i'm not daft enough to know that something that big would cost the same as a titan if not more!

Also the Gaunt's Ghosts series makes mention of some cool tanks used by the forces of Chaos that would be great to see on the table top; the Urdeshi pattern Reaver, Brigand and SteG 4.

That's my wishlist anyway!


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Two things I want:

1) More non-Heresy releases. Yes, they're great marine models, but we aren't even getting IG stuff anymore. Instead of making a million slightly different power armor variants let's see FW come up with something new and different.

2) Better rules. Let's be honest, FW's rules suck. Typos are common, balance is nonexistent, updates are absurdly slow, and sometimes you wonder whether they're even playing the same game as the rest of us (references to 4th/5th edition rules copy/pasted into 6th edition books, units and special rules that only made sense in previous editions, etc). And it's frustrating because this is stuff I could clean up in a day or two, but somehow the professional game designers can't.

 mwnciboo wrote:
With regards Forgeworld price is always going to be a top if not the top ongoing issue, so don't be surprised when alot of people want to talk about that,


It's pointless to talk about because there's nothing new to say. FW have always been expensive, and they always will be. Customers have always wanted lower prices, and they always will. Unless you've got some new insight into the price issue (and you don't) there's nothing to talk about, and it just gets in the way of discussing things that are actually interesting.

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How about having better and less misleading titles for books?
And a clear place that says where a unit's latest rules are located (perhaps on the page where you buy the model)?

The quality is fine, the price is fine, I wish they'd flesh out some of the xenos lines before chasing down 30k, but that's because I'm not a huge space marine fan. I just can't stand the current state of how they handle rules.

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Scarily, I'm forced to agree with Peregrine about prices. IIRC, most of them haven't really changed since I started playing, which is more than I can say for GW main.

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I would like a Necron Sphere that hovers over the battlefield sucking troops into it's underbelly where they get biomasse-shucked and then cranked out as new Necron warriors. Just because the thought of it is hilarious.

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Regarding the terrain, that had to have been more of a strategic, corporate decision to put FW's focus on minis and push plastic terrain through GW proper. You can't tell me that none of the FW terrain pieces sold well. Our club has tons of them. Some of them go for *insane* prices on eBay. Maybe the range needed a strong culling, but there's no way that the top 10-20 pieces weren't good sellers or profitable. It's probably just more profitable for GW to sell plastic terrain, and they don't want FW playing in that sandbox other than to support the GW RoB board.


I can believe it. Expensive high-end terrain is just not something that is very popular. Most people either play in stores (and no sane store is going to spend $1000 on a table and let every random kid play with it) or just want the cheapest possible stuff that looks vaguely decent, so the market for FW terrain is the few dedicated hobbyists who have space for a home gaming table and are willing to spend huge amounts of time and money to make it look as nice as possible. And supposedly production costs were really bad since it was big solid blocks of resin, so the profit margins at the price required to get even the sales they had weren't good enough to justify remaking the molds once their stock ran out.

It's unfortunate though, because the old terrain was really nice. I'd love to see it back in production, but I don't think that's a very realistic hope.

There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
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Actually, it would be a nice, easy addition to have a constantly updated PDF file with a table of contents listing where the latest rules are for all their models. Simple, easy to do, and takes the burden off the community by having it one click away on the actual site.

That and it would help clear up the issue some people have with FW.

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1) Stop focusing solely on Marines/IG, expand Xenos/Ecclesiarchy
2) Step up QC and take their bloody time to properly cast stuff and make sure it doesn't warp
3) Accept Paypal or other modern forms of payment
4) Normal shipping fees instead of flat %

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Make a gargant the size of a reaver.Then give me one.And someone said that the prices are reasonable.Has he ever heard of the tau Manta?

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Hmm...

More fantasy characters, either fill ins to make up for holes in the GW line especially now with Finecast be pushed out, such as an actual Sorceress on Manticore figure, Hellebron on Manticore etc, multiply that through the various fantasy armies.

More Black Library tie ins, with the amount of Guard players and kits they already do, my mind boggles that no one has thought the Gaunts Ghosts stuff isn't ripe for plundering. Tanith characters themselves, the Blood Pact, Stilt tanks etc etc.


More chapter add on items for the main Loyalist and Traitor chapters. It seems some have loads and some have next to nothing, would love to see that remedied. Also some more stuff on scouts, heck a Tyranid Attack homage with folks like Sgt Reaper would be much appreciated.

Obviously more Xenos.

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Would love to see more character building kits, artificer armor, weapons etc. maybe a armor through the ages kit like the GW one but not as bad.

Also Relics and master crafted weapons.

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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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octarius.Lets krump da bugs!

Morathi's darkest sin:actually GW sells some(not nearly enough)gaunts ghost models.Never read the series but I bet all of the models in it except for Gaunt are dead.

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More Krieg.

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Da krimson barun wrote:
Morathi's darkest sin:actually GW sells some(not nearly enough)gaunts ghost models.Never read the series but I bet all of the models in it except for Gaunt are dead.


I am aware as I still have a couple of them kicking around, unfortunately they are no where near FW in quality, and no longer available anyways. Tbh Gaunt was the only figure in the set worth having, maybe Larkin. But it was Five characters and three random Tanith Guardsmen.

Not the same as having a full list of characters which double out as filling on the spots you'd need for a Tanith army or any other generic forest based Guard force. Hell the thought of folks like Rawne, Tona Criid, Gal Kolea, Banda, Ban Duar, Hark, Mkvenner, Mkoll, hell even Chu to name a few gets me excited just on the possibility of picking them up.

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The new Sick Man of Europe

I have banned request to lower prices because they are not constructive to the thread and also If you look FW prices are kind of reasonable (imo)


 Peregrine wrote:


 mwnciboo wrote:
With regards Forgeworld price is always going to be a top if not the top ongoing issue, so don't be surprised when alot of people want to talk about that,


It's pointless to talk about because there's nothing new to say. FW have always been expensive, and they always will be. Customers have always wanted lower prices, and they always will. Unless you've got some new insight into the price issue (and you don't) there's nothing to talk about, and it just gets in the way of discussing things that are actually interesting.


Indeed.

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Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.

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 filbert wrote:
Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.


Lolwut? All I said is that I'd prefer if people didn't make requests like that.

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 sing your life wrote:
 filbert wrote:
Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.


Lolwut? A I said is that I'd prefer if people didn't make request like that?


You said you had 'banned' people from talking about price - that isn't a request, it's an imperative.

And again, semantics aside, you don't get to decide what people discuss. If you post a thread inviting discussion on what people would like FW to do, then you can hardly be surprised when people want to debate their pricing strategy; the two go hand in hand.

I personally think FW prices are verging on obscene for some things, bearing in mind these are still mass produced toy soldiers - it's not like they are hand sculpted in gold or something. These things kind of come into focus when you have to compare them to bills and mortgages. Suddenly, the relative costs of things take on a new meaning.

I think FW would sell a boat load more if they lowered prices. Having said that, I don't think it is their strategy, given that the aim is to make FW the 'premium' brand. Plus, it would be somewhat embarrassing for GW if FW started outselling them if the prices were on a a par. I can't think of an equivalent GW model that I prefer to it's FW counterpart.

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 filbert wrote:
 sing your life wrote:
 filbert wrote:
Whether you like it or not and whether it is constructive or not, you can't 'ban' anyone for talking or discussing price or anything else for that matter. You are not the arbiter of thread content.


Lolwut? A I said is that I'd prefer if people didn't make request like that?


You said you had 'banned' people from talking about price - that isn't a request, it's an imperative.

And again, semantics aside, you don't get to decide what people discuss. If you post a thread inviting discussion on what people would like FW to do, then you can hardly be surprised when people want to debate their pricing strategy; the two go hand in hand.

I personally think FW prices are verging on obscene for some things, bearing in mind these are still mass produced toy soldiers - it's not like they are hand sculpted in gold or something. These things kind of come into focus when you have to compare them to bills and mortgages. Suddenly, the relative costs of things take on a new meaning.

I think FW would sell a boat load more if they lowered prices. Having said that, I don;t think it is their strategy, given that the aim seems to make FW the 'premium' brand. Plus, it would be somewhat embarrassing for GW if FW started outselling them if the prices were on a a par. I can't think of an equivalent GW model that I prefer to it's FW counterpart.


Ah, I see.

The difficulty of getting the product is more of a sale-stopper than prices mind.

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 sing your life wrote:


Ah, I see.

The difficulty of getting the product is more of a sale-stopper than prices mind.


I would be inclined to order the new Heresy book and a Fulgrim were it not for the stupid 10% shipping they decide to lump on an order. I mean, I'm paying £100+ for a book and a damn plastic figure, you'd think they could eat a couple of quid to post the sodding thing to me. In these days of Amazon and free shipping, it seems incredibly old fashioned and penny pinching to charge a shipping fee, especially when it is a not inconsiderable size of the order. It strikes me as just a way to fleece more money out of people. I feel for those overseas who have to either club together as a gang or spend even more money just to get the free shipping band.
   
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Big FW fan here but in my opinion the prices are far from reasonable.
   
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 Sinful Hero wrote:
Update the hierodules for Tyranids. Also more dark Eldar stuff, such as haemonculi.


Didn't the nids get done in the FW apoc book?

I meant update the sculpts. IMHO they seem very dated.

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To be honest I would like to see Forge World restructure, possibly as a test to see if GW main would do the same.

Model design split into 3 teams, Space Marine / All other Imperial / Xenos (lets be honest Marines will always be their bread and butter and most likely the largest design team)

Writing split into 2 teams, fluff and rules, both teams reporting to a line editor. (one person writing a codex is asinine, especially when he doesn't read or talk to other codices)

Books, I like the IA books, but they could make a campaign book or mission book rather than saying "hey newest campaign rules are in the newest IA book. What you dont want to drop 80 dollars on a book for 20 pages of rules because the rest of the book are faction you dont play?

Modernize the store (paypal, free shipping in line with GW main, better pictures with something to show scale)



 
   
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