Angron loses by virtue of being one of the weaker Primarchs. Plus even if the orbital bombardment failed, eventually the atmosphere will be blown off, and the planet cracked.
Magnus on the other hand, would be a much "fairer" fight.
I think if angron got angry enough he could probably jump into low orbit and shred some space ships. That or throw some dead world eaters at them because he don't use guns. All assuming you aren't talking daemon style angron. Daemon angron would have no problem
bossfearless wrote:I don't know about this Angron guy but Marneus Calgar once killed an Avatar.
lawl even pansy-arse Fulgrim choked one to death with his bare hands.
Last thread with a similar theme had something of a ''a SOB with a meltagun will insta-kill a primarch'' thing going on, it was fun and I like to think that even tho they're strong and whatnot, even the primarch couldn't survive their face being melted away, but alas...
Bobthehero wrote: Last thread with a similar theme had something of a ''a SOB with a meltagun will insta-kill a primarch'' thing going on, it was fun and I like to think that even tho they're strong and whatnot, even the primarch couldn't survive their face being melted away, but alas...
Then there's Vulkan, who'll simply regenerate/incarnate into a new body upon being hit. Primarchs are supernatural demigods born from a living god. They bite the dust about as easily as the demigods of Greek mythology, if not harder.
Bobthehero wrote: Last thread with a similar theme had something of a ''a SOB with a meltagun will insta-kill a primarch'' thing going on, it was fun and I like to think that even tho they're strong and whatnot, even the primarch couldn't survive their face being melted away, but alas...
Wasn't it shoving down the throat of the primarch?
Bobthehero wrote: Last thread with a similar theme had something of a ''a SOB with a meltagun will insta-kill a primarch'' thing going on, it was fun and I like to think that even tho they're strong and whatnot, even the primarch couldn't survive their face being melted away, but alas...
Then there's Vulkan, who'll simply regenerate/incarnate into a new body upon being hit. Primarchs are supernatural demigods born from a living god. They bite the dust about as easily as the demigods of Greek mythology, if not harder.
They really kinda don't...
I mean don't get me wrong they are incredibly power individuals, each of who have their own unique talents and skills. They are an incredible force to be reckoned with but at the end of the day they are but flesh and blood. Their armour is much nicer but still just power armour or terminator armour.
If they were hit by a weapon so devastating it can slice through feet of armour plating then they will die. A meltagun is more often than not overkill for a regular sized tank. It will cut through a primarch just as easily as it would cut through a guardsman or an ork. Hell, if the primarch could actually withstand d-class weaponry why would they even bother with bodyguards or the space marine legions at all? They could have just dropped onto a planet, kicked the gak out of everything and then left.
Bobthehero wrote: Last thread with a similar theme had something of a ''a SOB with a meltagun will insta-kill a primarch'' thing going on, it was fun and I like to think that even tho they're strong and whatnot, even the primarch couldn't survive their face being melted away, but alas...
Fulgrim managed to heal quite rapidly whilst being tortured in a HH novel. Basically he went from charred bone to the beginnings of a foot in a matter of minutes. So it's not just Vulkan who is good at regeneration.
Bobthehero wrote: Last thread with a similar theme had something of a ''a SOB with a meltagun will insta-kill a primarch'' thing going on, it was fun and I like to think that even tho they're strong and whatnot, even the primarch couldn't survive their face being melted away, but alas...
Then there's Vulkan, who'll simply regenerate/incarnate into a new body upon being hit. Primarchs are supernatural demigods born from a living god. They bite the dust about as easily as the demigods of Greek mythology, if not harder.
They really kinda don't... I mean don't get me wrong they are incredibly power individuals, each of who have their own unique talents and skills. They are an incredible force to be reckoned with but at the end of the day they are but flesh and blood. Their armour is much nicer but still just power armour or terminator armour. If they were hit by a weapon so devastating it can slice through feet of armour plating then they will die. A meltagun is more often than not overkill for a regular sized tank. It will cut through a primarch just as easily as it would cut through a guardsman or an ork. Hell, if the primarch could actually withstand d-class weaponry why would they even bother with bodyguards or the space marine legions at all? They could have just dropped onto a planet, kicked the gak out of everything and then left.
Largely for show, or just to prevent them from being tarpitted in the fluff. Lorgar tanked a titan plasma cannon, Corax took a lascannon his (bare IIRC) chest, Vulkan's straight up immortal and respawns/regens, Magnus is Magnus, Fulgrim has regeneration (albeit not on Vulkan's level) and tanked some sort of D weapon at some point (can't remember what)- the only ones I would really peg as "weak" would be Alpharius/Omegon and Guilliman, but most of the Primarchs are tanks that obliterate most of their opposition. A meltagun would be highly unlikely to kill a Primarch (and some would be straight-up invincible), likely the same with a multi-melta- multiple squads armed with meltas constantly firing would be required. Things get even more lulzy if you take their vague mountain-busting stories literally from the Codices.
Orbital Bombardment at best causes a single wound to him which he either shrugs off due to invulnerable save, Feel No Pain, or regens the wound with IWND.
SRSFACE wrote: Orbital Bombardment at best causes a single wound to him which he either shrugs off due to invulnerable save, Feel No Pain, or regens the wound with IWND.
/literal
... I'm not a nerd shut up :(
Ah, Primarchs. While my first army is going to be CSM Night Lords, I really want to build a 30k army list, probably Salamanders, just so I challenge unwary 40k players (specifically taudar) and make them cry.
God. Vulkan would eat some Tau for breakfast. I legitimately can't think of what they could possibly do against him. Have him drop pod in or roll in some land raider, and he'd just gib that whole army.
Vulkan is my favorite primarch from a rules standpoint. Not for the fact he's borderline unkillable (though that helps!) but because you literally never have to roll To Hit if you want.
SRSFACE wrote: God. Vulkan would eat some Tau for breakfast. I legitimately can't think of what they could possibly do against him. Have him drop pod in or roll in some land raider, and he'd just gib that whole army.
Vulkan is my favorite primarch from a rules standpoint. Not for the fact he's borderline unkillable (though that helps!) but because you literally never have to roll To Hit if you want.
There's also that delicious ability to possibly wipe out entire squads by him being able to target every enemy in a straight eighteen inch line, so long as no allies are in the way. And drop pieplates on anything touching his base. And be completely immune to all pulse weapons.
As for the topic, Angron instantly wins, since the judge has declared that the OB sadly has ceased life functions. No heartbeat, no breathing, nothing. Almost walkover really.
I see my thread is being taken as seriously as it deserves.
Personally, I think that assuming that an 'Orbital Bombardment' only consists of one lance strike is rather silly. THat's not a Bombardment, that's not even a salvo!
Wyzilla wrote: Primarchs are supernatural demigods born from a living god. They bite the dust about as easily as the demigods of Greek mythology, if not harder.
Oh. Then Dark Eldars have it super-duper easy ! Remember Herakles death.
Wyzilla wrote: Primarchs are supernatural demigods born from a living god. They bite the dust about as easily as the demigods of Greek mythology, if not harder.
Oh. Then Dark Eldars have it super-duper easy !
Remember Herakles death.
Yeah, you just have to fool the wife of the Primarch to... oh, wait.
Furyou Miko wrote: I see my thread is being taken as seriously as it deserves.
Personally, I think that assuming that an 'Orbital Bombardment' only consists of one lance strike is rather silly. THat's not a Bombardment, that's not even a salvo!
It is rare that we see the happyface icon. The conclave has yet to decide whether it is more or less disturbing than the black-eyed, Alma-face.
It should be noted, though, that the Orbital Bombardment in DoW is a good salvo of half-a-dozen lance strikes over a good section of the screen... but is not as insta-gibbing as one might expect.
Furyou Miko wrote: I see my thread is being taken as seriously as it deserves.
Personally, I think that assuming that an 'Orbital Bombardment' only consists of one lance strike is rather silly. THat's not a Bombardment, that's not even a salvo!
W-what... what is this heresy (and I'm chaos! Oooop hope the inquisition didn't hear me)... I.... Somebody please hug me I am afraid... COME ON MIKO BLACK EYES OF DOOM! Black eyes of doom.... *shudders and curls up in terror*
Wyzilla wrote: Angron loses by virtue of being one of the weaker Primarchs.
lol
Anyway, Angron obviously has no real way to combat an orbital bombardment (Unless he was a Daemon, maybe), only Magnus and maybe Lorgar do, but for what it's worth, Horus actually held off on continuing his glassing of Istvaan III's atmosphere because he was worried Angron might survive, and be very pissed at Horus.
In all seriousness in a unserious thread, we all know that the planet loses in this case.
But the loser is also the one who happened to manned the bombardment
Spoiler:
We don't just do that for lolz, you do that because there are no other options; that is, unless, you are ordered by Umberco Eto, whose mind is not bothered by such vague articles...
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Yeah, you just have to fool the wife of the Primarch to... oh, wait.
I am pretty sure legions are all-masculine. You need to fool the boyfriend of the Primarch . Should not be too hard, they are no really renowned for wits.
In all seriousness in a unserious thread, we all know that the planet loses in this case.
Spoiler:
But the loser is also the one who happened to manned the bombardment
We don't just do that for lolz, you do that because there are no other options; that is, unless, you are ordered by Umberco Eto, whose mind is not bothered by such vague articles...
Huh, the Imperium uses Hydrogen Peroxide as fuel. I guess their medical ships should have no problem cleaning wounds.
As for the main topic, at some point the planet will erupt and Angron will be surrounded by molten rock. Nothing that lives can survive that.
Huh, the Imperium uses Hydrogen Peroxide as fuel. I guess their medical ships should have no problem cleaning wounds.
As for the main topic, at some point the planet will erupt and Angron will be surrounded by molten rock. Nothing that lives can survive that.
Well... being the classie contrarier that I am
Spoiler:
according to the heretical handwritten chronicle of his life, ... Konrad Curze's earliest memory was of descending from the heavens in a crackling ball of light to the night-shrouded planet of Nostramo. His embryonic form impacted on the the dense cityscape of Nostramo Quitus, smashing through countless levels of debris and mouldering architecture, through the planet's crust and into the geosphere before coming to a halt near the liquid core of the planet. His descend left a scar in the virtually inviolable adamantium strata of Nostramo, .... Theoretically, the only way the primarch could have reached the surface was to have swum through molten metal, borne upwards through volcanic veents to the surface...
"...a glowing child-form it was, crawled from the Pit onto the broken street, hissing molten metal dripping from its limbs. It was a daemon, no less, with the body of an infant but the expression of an old man, its eyes black and cold as obsidian."
-- "Bringers of Darkness: The Night Lords Space Marine Chapter", Index Astartes II, Kelly, Phil.
And Konrad died from allowing a Callidus Assassin to do it, probably knowing is unlike some of his brothers (e.g. Vulkan), and still he managed to live through both the initial impact and swimming in larva. So fluff-wise, Primarchs can shrug off any wounds until the plots says they must die.
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
(Poorly imitating a Russian accent) Lime! Dearest of all my internet non-friends, just for you, I've compiled a list of things that you might not have known about the primarchs from Index Astartes.
1. Did you know that, five of eighteen (in-universely) recorded Primarchs arrived on their homeworlds in a form of a meteor?
Fulgrim, whose cradle is that of the "hot white remains of a stasis capsule";
Ferrus Manus, who slammed into the highest ice mountain of Karaashi on Medusa, shattering the mountain top, and, basking in the glorious explosion of steam, "toppled mountains", his arrival was felt "the world over". Unscathed, he casually walked off the Ice Pinnacle he crushed into as a fully grown ma -- I mean, eh, Primarch.
Magnus, as a "portentous comet", he came to rest in the central plaza of the City of Light. "The vulnerability of their sanctuary to approach from above was something the adepts of Prospero failed to recognize; and failure for which they would suffer greatly in times to come." ("Masters of Forbidden Knowledge: The Thousand Sons Space Marine Legion", Index Astartes IV, Christopher Allan, Westmoreland, Hoare)
Vulkan, "a mighty comet blazing a trail of fire across the skies of the world of Nocturne during the Time of Trial..." ("Promethean Warriors: The Salamanders Space Marine Chapter", Index Astartes IV, Graham McNeil. Thorpe, Gav)
And of course, Konrad.
2. Did you know that, amongst the legends and tales concerning Corax's arrival on Lycaeus, one of which is of a fiery comet breaking apart a mountain of Iron? And other tales mentioned are of a life-consuming caving-in on a glacier, which revealed the chamber containing the Infant primarch? Or the tale of a dying old warrior begging the slaves to protect the unnatural infant?
3. Did you know, the nude infant Sanguinus survived in a land of deadly dose of radiation upon his discovery? Did you know that baby Mortarion breathed the lethal poison gas of the Barbarus Mountain Peaks? Did you know a child Perturabo was discovered while climbing the sheer cliffs of Olympia? Or that an non-PA-wearing Alpharius (or maybe Omegan) weathered multiple shots, at least one of which a bolter-round to the shoulder by Horus himslef, struck his hand inches from Horus' throat before coming to a halt (presumably coming to admire a shiny balding head that he had dreamt of for decades... oh wait, you there my good sir, who is so silent despite clad in that ridiculously cumbersome armor and appeared so suddenly right outside my apartment window just now, how may I hel--)
The Primarchs are literally demigods, while some might disagree on just how "mighty" Rogal Dorn, Horus, and Roboute Guilliman actually is in comparison to the deeds of the other Primarchs, their relatively null feats in strength or personal combat are likely the result of the comparably tranquil worlds they came to be on. An each and every single one of them can withstand any lethal wound short of literally magically designed to kill them (Anathame to Horus, The Daemon-possesed blade of Laer to Ferrus Manus, Daemon-Fulgrim to Guilliman and... eh, somehow Konrad chose a much more "mundane" death -- sheesh, he died a death of his choosing, who am I to judge?).
So hypothetically, each traitor primarch is an army of his own right, and fluffy-wise, non-daemon primarchs are, being unbounded from the limits of the wrap, neigh untouchable by mortal weapons (then again, there is Gilliman and those two erased Primarchs...) Urggh, sometimes, I just wanna shut down part of my brain to enjoy the fluff.
lcmiracle wrote: And Konrad died from allowing a Callidus Assassin to do it
Or did he ? Maybe someone wants you to think he did .
And here I was wondering if all of the Horus Heresy was real... well, I mean, not literally real, but story-wise... pffffffffffffffff, brain shut-down protocol initiated, please stand by... 3... 2... 1...
If the orbital bombardments cracks the planet apart and angron survives, he can jump from one asteroid into another to reach whichever ship targeted him
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
I would like to quickly point out this is a world where the solar system has plot armor. The necrons have a weapon that can destroy any star in the galaxy. Why do they not use it? Because nonsensical answer Gibbering blobs of emotion charge at you, close combat is reall popular despite the fact that such a tactic is suicidal in our own world, there are only 1,000,000 or so SM (probably a bit more but no clue what exact number), oh and in certain books 5 SM can kill 1,000 or more enemies and maybe just lose a single marine . Welcome to 40k, where you must surrender any capability of suspending your disbelief and just accept the utter nonsense that is 40k
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
You're making a massive mistake as well. Primarchs aren't human. It's no different than the "humans" mutants in Marvel or DC.
(It's not even just comic books, Primarchs are just the old heroes of our mythos like Beowulf and Hercules, taken up to eleven and gifted reality warping superpowers.)
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
You're making a massive mistake as well. Primarchs aren't human. It's no different than the "humans" mutants in Marvel or DC.
(It's not even just comic books, Primarchs are just the old heroes of our mythos like Beowulf and Hercules, taken up to eleven and gifted reality warping superpowers.)
And I don't care for those either but I understand what you are saying. I prefer stories of fallible Imperial Guardsmen taking on impossible odds and winning through sheer grit rather than some intrinsic magical powers. I think stories of ultra powerful men doing ultra powerful things are dull and predictable but that's just me.
@Star Trotter
I think there is some Hand Waving about causing stars to explode upsets the balance of the universe or something. Which is stupid in of itself but that's Ward for you. I understand your point, though. I guess I should stop thinking about the fluff to really enjoy it. Except for the Forge World books; those are awesome. Relatively speaking of course
However, I do think that eventually Angron will fall to the Orbital bombardment. If Primarchs can fall to blades they can fall to sustained explosions.
Furyou Miko wrote: I suspended my disbelief from the ceiling by its neck.
This.
If I want to suspend my disbelief the normal way I have World of Warcraft RP.
I have 40K for when I want flying rodent gak crazy stuff.
To be fair, it's not as flying rodent gak as some of the crazy gak our ancestors cooked up in the wee hours of the morning (probably while tripping) while writing their mythos. Gilgamesh and Co. and any fable from Scandinavia comes to mind.
Oddly though, western entertainment has been making a steady shift to the crazy realm of extremely powerful protagonists and villains of most Eastern mythos and religions, Hinduism being a good example.
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
You're making a massive mistake as well. Primarchs aren't human. It's no different than the "humans" mutants in Marvel or DC.
(It's not even just comic books, Primarchs are just the old heroes of our mythos like Beowulf and Hercules, taken up to eleven and gifted reality warping superpowers.)
And I don't care for those either but I understand what you are saying. I prefer stories of fallible Imperial Guardsmen taking on impossible odds and winning through sheer grit rather than some intrinsic magical powers. I think stories of ultra powerful men doing ultra powerful things are dull and predictable but that's just me.
@Star Trotter
I think there is some Hand Waving about causing stars to explode upsets the balance of the universe or something. Which is stupid in of itself but that's Ward for you. I understand your point, though. I guess I should stop thinking about the fluff to really enjoy it. Except for the Forge World books; those are awesome. Relatively speaking of course
However, I do think that eventually Angron will fall to the Orbital bombardment. If Primarchs can fall to blades they can fall to sustained explosions.
To be honest I prefer the story of the standard guardsman. Then again, I love the stories where they are fighting superior foes. CSM, Tyranids, Chaos Daemons, and Orks. Primarchs are the type of characters I enjoy if I turn my mind partially off
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
You're making a massive mistake as well. Primarchs aren't human. It's no different than the "humans" mutants in Marvel or DC.
(It's not even just comic books, Primarchs are just the old heroes of our mythos like Beowulf and Hercules, taken up to eleven and gifted reality warping superpowers.)
And I don't care for those either but I understand what you are saying. I prefer stories of fallible Imperial Guardsmen taking on impossible odds and winning through sheer grit rather than some intrinsic magical powers. I think stories of ultra powerful men doing ultra powerful things are dull and predictable but that's just me.
@Star Trotter
I think there is some Hand Waving about causing stars to explode upsets the balance of the universe or something. Which is stupid in of itself but that's Ward for you. I understand your point, though. I guess I should stop thinking about the fluff to really enjoy it. Except for the Forge World books; those are awesome. Relatively speaking of course
However, I do think that eventually Angron will fall to the Orbital bombardment. If Primarchs can fall to blades they can fall to sustained explosions.
To be honest I prefer the story of the standard guardsman. Then again, I love the stories where they are fighting superior foes. CSM, Tyranids, Chaos Daemons, and Orks. Primarchs are the type of characters I enjoy if I turn my mind partially off
I prefer the stories where the odds of CSM vs Guardsmen is acknowledged as being equivalent to an epic lawnmower VS grass fight.
That said, eh, I have expressed myself on the topic and I do not see how to answer it seriously.
TheCustomLime wrote: I... I... The.. Im done. There can be no logic applied here. The primarchs have plot armor as a magic power and thats all I got.
You came into Warhammer 40k expecting there to be logic? It's a "science" fantasy epic. Logic is crying in a corner and sanity's unconsciousness on the floor from a hangover.
I understand that this is a space fantasy but there is usually something called "Suspension of Disbelief" for this sort of thing. I can believe that someone would actually use slaves instead of auto loaders to load a cannon aboard a ship. I can overlook dumb little things like how close space ships are in formation. But I, as a learned scientistic man, cannot swallow someone being able to survive going into the mantle. That's a loooong time of being exposed to a lot of pressure and heat.
@Icmiracle
I'm just gonna ignore the Primarchs and focus on the purdy Mk. 4 and Spartan Assault tanks kthnx.
You're making a massive mistake as well. Primarchs aren't human. It's no different than the "humans" mutants in Marvel or DC.
(It's not even just comic books, Primarchs are just the old heroes of our mythos like Beowulf and Hercules, taken up to eleven and gifted reality warping superpowers.)
And I don't care for those either but I understand what you are saying. I prefer stories of fallible Imperial Guardsmen taking on impossible odds and winning through sheer grit rather than some intrinsic magical powers. I think stories of ultra powerful men doing ultra powerful things are dull and predictable but that's just me.
@Star Trotter
I think there is some Hand Waving about causing stars to explode upsets the balance of the universe or something. Which is stupid in of itself but that's Ward for you. I understand your point, though. I guess I should stop thinking about the fluff to really enjoy it. Except for the Forge World books; those are awesome. Relatively speaking of course
However, I do think that eventually Angron will fall to the Orbital bombardment. If Primarchs can fall to blades they can fall to sustained explosions.
To be honest I prefer the story of the standard guardsman. Then again, I love the stories where they are fighting superior foes. CSM, Tyranids, Chaos Daemons, and Orks. Primarchs are the type of characters I enjoy if I turn my mind partially off
I prefer the stories where the odds of CSM vs Guardsmen is acknowledged as being equivalent to an epic lawnmower VS grass fight.
That said, eh, I have expressed myself on the topic and I do not see how to answer it seriously.
Humorously enough I really don't mind the primarchs being demi-gods. Then again, I like the thought of an elite group of CSM leading around a bunch of foolish humans (be it traitor guard or cultists) and just forcing them around. A chaos Aspirant joins their ranks making it seem like he is inspiring them (instead it is to have more delicious meat shields)
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TheCustomLime wrote: And that's why I play Imperial Guard and you play Chaos Space Marines.
Here is my question, though, to keep the topic. What sort of munitions and fleet size are we talking about?
Doesn't matter it has already been decided that Angron will simply wake up a few days later, get really mad (okay well even worse than before) and swim through space
I really enjoy the image of a swarm of lesser cultists and a CSM champ leading them, sticking out of the sea like a massive swarm of fish following a shark.
I imagine after his space swim, he will hijack the biggest of the ships that fired on him, and ram the others with it and then arrange the wrecks into a massive middle finger aimed at Terra.
thepowerfulwill wrote: I imagine after his space swim, he will hijack the biggest of the ships that fired on him, and ram the others with it and then arrange the wrecks into a massive middle finger aimed at Terra.
Except not, for Terra is protected by an enormous shield that takes up the entire galaxy - the inability to advance the plot.
The talk of demigods and shrugging off the impossible made me think of it. Given the fact this is a less than serious thread, I can't interject something also not serious?
Consider me and done then.
Angron punches the universe really hard altering reality and we're done here.
If only Angron had a gun to defend himself this tragedy would have been avoided....
In all seriousness If other primarchs can take plasmas to the face and shrug off titan stomps somehow I think mere orbital bombardments designed to crack a planet's crust would leave nothing more than a flesh wound.
Then again Horus got a pretty bad boo-boo from a rusty knife.
What you do is you lock him in a reinforced room and force him to listen to boy bands for 24 hours. Then you launch him out of the airlock at the offending planet. Within 3 days, everyone on that world will die.
TheCustomLime wrote: As for the main topic, at some point the planet will erupt and Angron will be surrounded by molten rock. Nothing that lives can survive that.
Lorgar survived getting shot by the heat of a star. Twice.
TheCustomLime wrote: As for the main topic, at some point the planet will erupt and Angron will be surrounded by molten rock. Nothing that lives can survive that.
Lorgar survived getting shot by the heat of a star. Twice.
TheCustomLime wrote: As for the main topic, at some point the planet will erupt and Angron will be surrounded by molten rock. Nothing that lives can survive that.
Lorgar survived getting shot by the heat of a star. Twice.
. Should not be too hard, they are no really renowned for wits.
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