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Post by: Zookie
If the Emperor were to be reborn what would be his first priority in restoring the Imperium?
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Post by: jhe90
First thing probbly would be just to getting things properly organised and make the systems work at as faster than glacial pace.
I mean right now they are barely fuctinwl at times, if you want to do anything you need to get things running better and more organised before you can mount any large scale changes, or campaigns.
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Post by: Kain
Bitchslap Abaddon and snap Drach'nyech over his knee probably once he knocks some heads together to make things efficient for once.
Then find whoever has the burning blade and politely ask for it back.
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Post by: Banzaimash
To dropkick Inquisitor Karamazov into the Eye of Terror, causing it to collapse in on itself and close for good, while getting rid of the idiot in the process. Automatically Appended Next Post: Kain wrote:Bitchslap Abaddon and snap Drach'nyech over his knee probably once he knocks some heads together to make things efficient for once.
Then find whoever has the burning blade and politely ask for it back.
But, like, every Space Marine chapter has one don't you know.
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Post by: Desubot
Probably smack some high lords, cut the red tape, and go smack some traitors quickly so they can deal with the nid problem.
Maybe continue to muck about with ancient science or something.
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Post by: Kain
Banzaimash wrote:To dropkick Inquisitor Karamazov into the Eye of Terror, causing it to collapse in on itself and close for good, while getting rid of the idiot in the process.
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Kain wrote:Bitchslap Abaddon and snap Drach'nyech over his knee probably once he knocks some heads together to make things efficient for once.
Then find whoever has the burning blade and politely ask for it back.
But, like, every Space Marine chapter has one don't you know.
That just means he can dual wield his own sword.
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Post by: Arcsquad12
Pretty much follow the Emperor's Text-To-Speech plot.
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Post by: Mr. Burning
If he wanted to restore it in his original image he would have to fight the innumerable billions of souls devoted to the 'God Emperor'.
The Eclisiarchy would have to be destroyed - along with the SoB.
A lot of lives would be lost before Big E even thought about getting the remnants of his sons legions back together and very firmly dissuading association with the Tau and bro fisting necrons.
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Post by: pm713
So many problems so little time. Probably organise everything and then proceed directly to Cadia where Chaos will be so scared they never leave again. That or beat the Ecclesiarchy for worshipping him.
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Post by: Banzaimash
Kain wrote: Banzaimash wrote:To dropkick Inquisitor Karamazov into the Eye of Terror, causing it to collapse in on itself and close for good, while getting rid of the idiot in the process.
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Kain wrote:Bitchslap Abaddon and snap Drach'nyech over his knee probably once he knocks some heads together to make things efficient for once.
Then find whoever has the burning blade and politely ask for it back.
But, like, every Space Marine chapter has one don't you know.
That just means he can dual wield his own sword.
Or he could have a whole chapter of Space Marines armed with just Burning Blades. That would be a sight to see, or not, as the brightness of the blades would have it.
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Post by: LumenPraebeo
It could be anything really....if I was the Emperor though, I'd rally the Custodes and Astartes. Even if you're a god, after 10,000 years in a coma, the people in power won't just give it up because you're their god. We know the Imperium is as corrupt as the USA, or Russia, or China. Probably more so than all of them put together. You're going to need to stake your claim to legitimacy for the throne. You have your divine mandate already, so next you would need an army. An army ensures your claim and provides you security should the ones with power decide it's in their interest that you be harmed. But more important than restoring your status at the top, the current situation of the Imperium calls for relief of the pressure on the borders of the empire of man. Its currently stuck between a rock and a hard place. By coming back, a being as the Emperor of Man will shake the status quo, and the choices made by him will either shake the fragile foundations of the Imperium, or bring the sleeping giant out from under the rock.
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Post by: Kain
Mr. Burning wrote:If he wanted to restore it in his original image he would have to fight the innumerable billions of souls devoted to the 'God Emperor'.
The Eclisiarchy would have to be destroyed - along with the SoB.
A lot of lives would be lost before Big E even thought about getting the remnants of his sons legions back together and very firmly dissuading association with the Tau and bro fisting necrons.
He's probably smart enough to realize that the Ecclesiarchy is a problem for later rather than now when the Orks are getting more unified, a Black Crusade is underway, new Tau level empires are constantly rising and snapping up Imperial territory as they expand, and the Necrons and Tyranids are about ready to kill everything and everyone.
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Post by: Zookie
I know he is the Emperor and all. But I imagine that if he tried to reform the Imperium in any meaningful way there would be resistance. I wonder if his return would spark a civil war?
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Post by: Orblivion
Probably reassemble the legions and hit a few hot spots hard.
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Post by: Alcibiades
The Tau are what the humanity was long ago, minus the xenophobia. If that implies anything.
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Post by: ashcroft
Not necessarily. The Ecclesiarchy would need to be reformed, to preach a renewed Imperial Truth perhaps. The SoB would not need to be destroyed - as the example of Alicia Dominica in the Age of Apostasy shows their first loyalty is to the Emperor, not to the Ecclesiarch. They would be as loyal to the reborn Emperor as any Astartes.
There would be no civil war. The Emperor would obtain the absolute unshakeable loyality of the entire armed forces of the Imperium - from the Custodes to the most humble guardsman - with a word, and with that power at his command any internal opposition would be silenced very quickly indeed.
The big question is whether or not his power would still be required to keep the Webway shut. The destruction of the wards more or less entirely took the Emperor out of the Heresy until the last day, and if he still needed to focus on that then his influence would be limited. If he didn't then I agree with those who are saying that he'd first chase Abaddon and co. back into the Eye of Terror, then turn his attention to the other threats - primarily the Tyranids.
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Post by: epronovost
Probably just watch all that he strive to build and all that he old dear crash and burn has the legions of Chaos and countless xenos destroy his empire bit by bit.
PS: I never read the new Sister of Battle fluff, but in the old one, it was clearly stated that the Emperor clearly approved them and their practices and in several case (most famously the original six commanding Sister of Battle) gave them supernatural powers of immense magnitude. Hell, he made them what they are. I think he has no problem with the Ecclesiarchy anymore.
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Post by: Insane Smile
jhe90 wrote:First thing probbly would be just to getting things properly organised and make the systems work at as faster than glacial pace.
I mean right now they are barely fuctinwl at times, if you want to do anything you need to get things running better and more organised before you can mount any large scale changes, or campaigns.
Agreed. A good example was in the old Guard codex, iirc regiment fought heroically but were wiped out. But even though they were killed, they were moved to another war zone, and when they didn't show up (cause they were dead) they were marked as traitors and sentenced to death. It's stuff like this that would be quickly fixed by the big guy.
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Post by: Leth
Tell Guilliman to quit napping on the job and wake up.
Tell russ to stop running naked around the warp.
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Post by: PaperworkNinja
First priority? Absolute first?
Rebuilding the Astronomicon. Without it, space travel is pretty much impossible.
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Post by: the shrouded lord
bitch-slap every inquisitor except the ones that are actually good people (0.000001 % of them).
announce the salamanders the best chapter.
walk up the grey knights and shake every one of them. then he would lead the ultramarines, grey knights, and all of the rest (except for slamanders, imperial fists, and a few others)
punch Abaddon THROUGH his face.
and then go visit Macha. privately. for about a month.
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Post by: Animus
Keep it going as is, he's really just playing for time and the modern Imperium has proved to have far more staying power than his did.
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Post by: Raz'kull Skull Krusha
I'd agree with this.
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Post by: zombiekila707
Goes finds corax and tell him everything is fine. Find Russ give him a high five. Find vulkan and give him a fist bump. Then kicks out all the inquisitors. Then finds abbadon play some DMX and kick the crap out of him.
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Post by: Aix'Nyre
Quit the Imperium and join the Eldar. Wave Serpent Spam FTW!
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Post by: Troike
I'd think that the first priority would be getting the Imperium out of the decline its in, which means dealing with various threats and likely small reforms to increase efficiency.
Mr. Burning wrote:If he wanted to restore it in his original image he would have to fight the innumerable billions of souls devoted to the 'God Emperor'.
The Eclisiarchy would have to be destroyed - along with the SoB.
I see this one often in this scenario. While it's certainly a possibility that he would want the Ecclesiarchy removed in the long-term, I'm going to agree with others and say that I don't think that he'd do it right away. The Imperium is in a bad spot just now, and starting such a great internal upheaval would do more harm than good. Better to use them against the threats first, and then work on changing things once the Imperium is more secure.
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Post by: morpheuschild
oddly enough, i think he might try to forge strong military alliances with the 'friendlier' xeno reaces, primarily the eldar and the tau, to help combat the growing threats of the orks, chaos, and tyranids.
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Post by: jhe90
morpheuschild wrote:oddly enough, i think he might try to forge strong military alliances with the 'friendlier' xeno reaces, primarily the eldar and the tau, to help combat the growing threats of the orks, chaos, and tyranids.
Tau make a good alliance, yes there growing but good tech, proven in combat vs orks, and have similar combat docraines to space marines at times.
Eldar. Yes good alliance, but would even the emperor be considered evolved or just a extra powerful monkey. There have a supiority complex, would they even Allie to such a "backward" speices.
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Post by: Kain
jhe90 wrote:morpheuschild wrote:oddly enough, i think he might try to forge strong military alliances with the 'friendlier' xeno reaces, primarily the eldar and the tau, to help combat the growing threats of the orks, chaos, and tyranids.
Tau make a good alliance, yes there growing but good tech, proven in combat vs orks, and have similar combat docraines to space marines at times.
Eldar. Yes good alliance, but would even the emperor be considered evolved or just a extra powerful monkey. There have a supiority complex, would they even Allie to such a "backward" speices.
Harlequins will work just fine with humans and can help broker a deal with the more resistant Eldar.
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Post by: pm713
jhe90 wrote:morpheuschild wrote:oddly enough, i think he might try to forge strong military alliances with the 'friendlier' xeno reaces, primarily the eldar and the tau, to help combat the growing threats of the orks, chaos, and tyranids.
Tau make a good alliance, yes there growing but good tech, proven in combat vs orks, and have similar combat docraines to space marines at times.
Eldar. Yes good alliance, but would even the emperor be considered evolved or just a extra powerful monkey. There have a supiority complex, would they even Allie to such a "backward" speices.
I remember him being called a "failed seer" or something along those lines. Still help is help.
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Post by: jhe90
Help is indeed help, eldar are powerful, just very supremacest, well given a eldar seer is extremely powerful, I guess as eldar remarks are that's not the worst insult.
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Post by: Kain
jhe90 wrote:Help is indeed help, eldar are powerful, just very supremacest, well given a eldar seer is extremely powerful, I guess as eldar remarks are that's not the worst insult.
The Eldar are also not a hive minded mono-culture and different sections of them have different beliefs and opinions. Some craftworlds don't care if you're human as long as you can be of help to them. The harlequins similarly don't have any special racial beef towards anyone save for the most implacable enemies of the Eldar and can pass freely through the Imperium.
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Post by: jhe90
I know, many individual craft worlds but as a general, they are not to be fully trusted, and rarely treat a xeno in there eyes as a equal.
But will work with impirium when the backs to the wall, vs chaos or tyranoids, there both at same risk of anilation. And the impirium is a a bit off a 800 pound gorilla, but when it comes to fight, its useful to have in corner. Maybe vs orks too, as orks once infesting planet, there high impossible to exterminate.
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Post by: Kain
jhe90 wrote:I know, many individual craft worlds but as a general, they are not to be fully trusted, and rarely treat a xeno in there eyes as a equal.
But will work with impirium when the backs to the wall, vs chaos or tyranoids, there both at same risk of anilation. And the impirium is a a bit off a 800 pound gorilla, but when it comes to fight, its useful to have in corner. Maybe vs orks too, as orks once infesting planet, there high impossible to exterminate.
You're forgetting the Necrons, since the Necrons are the Eldar's raison d'ete.
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Post by: jhe90
Kain wrote:jhe90 wrote:I know, many individual craft worlds but as a general, they are not to be fully trusted, and rarely treat a xeno in there eyes as a equal.
But will work with impirium when the backs to the wall, vs chaos or tyranoids, there both at same risk of anilation. And the impirium is a a bit off a 800 pound gorilla, but when it comes to fight, its useful to have in corner. Maybe vs orks too, as orks once infesting planet, there high impossible to exterminate.
You're forgetting the Necrons, since the Necrons are the Eldar's raison d'ete.
True, I forgot the 60 million year grudge match, though given you can barely kill a necron, I think they are the underdog somewhat.
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Post by: Desubot
morpheuschild wrote:'friendlier' xeno reaces, primarily the eldar and the tau, to help combat the growing threats of the orks, chaos, and tyranids.
What Macha is finally going to get laid?
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Post by: kronk
Heal the Lion and Gulliman, then go kick Nid and Black Legion butt.
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Post by: Agent_Tremolo
The Lion might have to answer some questions first, though...
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Post by: Mellow
Clearly returning the Golden Throne to its original function. Getting the Astronomicon working without his intervention and most importantly reorganising Terra so that it can function under the revelation that "He walks amongst us again"
You can't govern a Galaxy spanning empire without at least one central hub which of course would be Terra under his absolute authority.
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Post by: Selym
Zookie wrote:If the Emperor were to be reborn what would be his first priority in restoring the Imperium?
FALSE.
The Lords of Terra would whack his brains in until Empy goes back to sleep so that they can keep ruling.
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Post by: jhe90
Selym wrote:Zookie wrote:If the Emperor were to be reborn what would be his first priority in restoring the Imperium?
FALSE.
The Lords of Terra would whack his brains in until Empy goes back to sleep so that they can keep ruling.
Custodious have absalute authority on who can enter palace though, plus the 300 companion body guard, 9700 outside the chamber, if they don't,t want you to enter, not even a high lord can order otherwise
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Post by: Metaljunx
It is possible or he may lead a crusade to take down or the chaos space marines
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Post by: avatarofawesome
10,000 years will not have ruined his manners. He will thank Cypher for waking him up before anything else.
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Post by: Wyzilla
Unlikely. While funny (and I'm an Alfa Legionnaire so I'm obligated to support the Chapter Master), the GEOM iirc has actually been consoius the entire time since the Horus Heresy and thus is aware of such entities like the Inquisition and probably wouldn't even think of disbanding them as Malcador created them with his knowledge. As for his immediate actions, probably allying with the Eldar officially and charging forward to break the back of the Black Legion and Word Bearers.
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Post by: Kain
Wyzilla wrote:
Unlikely. While funny (and I'm an Alfa Legionnaire so I'm obligated to support the Chapter Master), the GEOM iirc has actually been consoius the entire time since the Horus Heresy and thus is aware of such entities like the Inquisition and probably wouldn't even think of disbanding them as Malcador created them with his knowledge. As for his immediate actions, probably allying with the Eldar officially and charging forward to break the back of the Black Legion and Word Bearers.
I can't imagine the Emperor giving Abaddon the same leniency he gave Horus.
Or Abaddon being even remotely as threatening to him as Horus was. I mean, look at their stats; Horus without any chaos power is ridiculously out of Abaddon with the favour of the Dark Gods' league.
No wonder Abby has daddy issues.
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Post by: TiamatRoar
Some things to note?
The Emperor was there to set up the Inquisition in the first place (it's like, the one thing that's consistent with the myriad of legends surrounding the Inquisition) when Malcador presented inquisitive people to him. Therefore he likely will NOT disband the Inquisition.
The Emperor was the one who set up the precursors to the High Lords of Terra. Therefore he likely will NOT disband the High Lords of Terra.
The Emperor was the one who appointed the SoB in the first place (probably). Therefore he likely will NOT disband the SoB. The ecceslarchy might be fair game but he probably has other priorities given how long it'd take to change the Imperium's psyche even if the Ecclesiarchy hypothetically cooperated with him to switch to the Imperial Truth instead.
Given that Abaddon's black crusade is in full swing, I imagine that would be one of his top priorities. There isn't much time to focus on beaurocratic reforms when you have a bunch of raving lunatic murderors not just on your doorstep, but with their foot in the door itself.
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Post by: TheRedWingArmada
The Emperor (the REAL Emperor) first order of business? KILLING OFF THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF HIS IMPERIUM.
Second order of business would then be to summon the Mechanicum of Mars and the Ecclesiarchy together in the same room, so the Mechanicum can watch the Ecclesiarchy go up in holy warpflames for their blasphemy of his great work and then turn to the Mechanicum and say "Alright, you'd better get those STC's working, and if I hear anymore of this religious babble over the machines, I'm kicking your ass as well."
Then he'd probably march into the Eye of Terror, punch Slaanesh in the face and force the Warp Breach closed with his bare hands. Then he'd go find what remains of his Sons and start slapping them in the heads one by one. Even the comatose ones like Girly-Man and so-forth.
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Actually, I take that all back. The very FIRST thing he would do is unclench his butt cheeks and take a dump, seeing as how he's been sitting on a warp rift for over 10,000 years with demons poking him in the ass with pitchforks. XD
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Post by: jhe90
TheRedWingArmada wrote:The Emperor (the REAL Emperor) first order of business? KILLING OFF THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF HIS IMPERIUM.
Second order of business would then be to summon the Mechanicum of Mars and the Ecclesiarchy together in the same room, so the Mechanicum can watch the Ecclesiarchy go up in holy warpflames for their blasphemy of his great work and then turn to the Mechanicum and say "Alright, you'd better get those STC's working, and if I hear anymore of this religious babble over the machines, I'm kicking your ass as well."
Then he'd probably march into the Eye of Terror, punch Slaanesh in the face and force the Warp Breach closed with his bare hands. Then he'd go find what remains of his Sons and start slapping them in the heads one by one. Even the comatose ones like Girly-Man and so-forth.
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Actually, I take that all back. The very FIRST thing he would do is unclench his butt cheeks and take a dump, seeing as how he's been sitting on a warp rift for over 10,000 years with demons poking him in the ass with pitchforks. XD
+ take a shower, after 10,000 years you must smell worse than first captain typhus of the death guard.
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Post by: TheRedWingArmada
jhe90 wrote: TheRedWingArmada wrote:The Emperor (the REAL Emperor) first order of business? KILLING OFF THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF HIS IMPERIUM.
Second order of business would then be to summon the Mechanicum of Mars and the Ecclesiarchy together in the same room, so the Mechanicum can watch the Ecclesiarchy go up in holy warpflames for their blasphemy of his great work and then turn to the Mechanicum and say "Alright, you'd better get those STC's working, and if I hear anymore of this religious babble over the machines, I'm kicking your ass as well."
Then he'd probably march into the Eye of Terror, punch Slaanesh in the face and force the Warp Breach closed with his bare hands. Then he'd go find what remains of his Sons and start slapping them in the heads one by one. Even the comatose ones like Girly-Man and so-forth.
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Actually, I take that all back. The very FIRST thing he would do is unclench his butt cheeks and take a dump, seeing as how he's been sitting on a warp rift for over 10,000 years with demons poking him in the ass with pitchforks. XD
+ take a shower, after 10,000 years you must smell worse than first captain typhus of the death guard.
The dude doesn't even have skin or flesh anymore, as I understand it, something that Typhus at least was able to keep a hold of, even if there are millions of insects breeding and eating him alive as quickly as he rots. That's some pretty serious morning after funk.
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Post by: Wyzilla
Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote:
Unlikely. While funny (and I'm an Alfa Legionnaire so I'm obligated to support the Chapter Master), the GEOM iirc has actually been consoius the entire time since the Horus Heresy and thus is aware of such entities like the Inquisition and probably wouldn't even think of disbanding them as Malcador created them with his knowledge. As for his immediate actions, probably allying with the Eldar officially and charging forward to break the back of the Black Legion and Word Bearers.
I can't imagine the Emperor giving Abaddon the same leniency he gave Horus.
Or Abaddon being even remotely as threatening to him as Horus was. I mean, look at their stats; Horus without any chaos power is ridiculously out of Abaddon with the favour of the Dark Gods' league.
No wonder Abby has daddy issues.
Oh yes. Abaddon is fethed if the GEOM shows up to kill him, he's still just an Astartes compared to the GEOM who's capable of backhanding C'tan Shards without much danger to himself. First order of business will be crippling the Black Legion and the Word Bearers. Once that's done, the threat of Chaos Space Marines is largely over as there's little chance of any future unified Black Crusades unless one of the Primarch steps in. The next step would likely be kicking the Tyranids out of the Galaxy with aid of the Eldar.
Also, with the GEOM directly communicating with the Eldar, they'll probably become allies as there is no longer a danger of the Eldar believing the Emperor subject to Chaos taint, and with the GEOM's main goal to kick out the imminent threats and cripple the ability of Chaos to enter the materium. I also doubt the Eldar's arrogance of him being a "mere" ape would continue when they're witness to his true power that hilariously overshadows that of all the Farseers, probably even combined.
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Post by: jhe90
TheRedWingArmada wrote:jhe90 wrote: TheRedWingArmada wrote:The Emperor (the REAL Emperor) first order of business? KILLING OFF THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF HIS IMPERIUM.
Second order of business would then be to summon the Mechanicum of Mars and the Ecclesiarchy together in the same room, so the Mechanicum can watch the Ecclesiarchy go up in holy warpflames for their blasphemy of his great work and then turn to the Mechanicum and say "Alright, you'd better get those STC's working, and if I hear anymore of this religious babble over the machines, I'm kicking your ass as well."
Then he'd probably march into the Eye of Terror, punch Slaanesh in the face and force the Warp Breach closed with his bare hands. Then he'd go find what remains of his Sons and start slapping them in the heads one by one. Even the comatose ones like Girly-Man and so-forth.
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Actually, I take that all back. The very FIRST thing he would do is unclench his butt cheeks and take a dump, seeing as how he's been sitting on a warp rift for over 10,000 years with demons poking him in the ass with pitchforks. XD
+ take a shower, after 10,000 years you must smell worse than first captain typhus of the death guard.
The dude doesn't even have skin or flesh anymore, as I understand it, something that Typhus at least was able to keep a hold of, even if there are millions of insects breeding and eating him alive as quickly as he rots. That's some pretty serious morning after funk.
Lexacnium, says he still has armour, cracked n with plauqe vents, and yes flies but not sure if 100% composed of them.
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Post by: Happyjew
jhe90 wrote: TheRedWingArmada wrote:The Emperor (the REAL Emperor) first order of business? KILLING OFF THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF HIS IMPERIUM.
Second order of business would then be to summon the Mechanicum of Mars and the Ecclesiarchy together in the same room, so the Mechanicum can watch the Ecclesiarchy go up in holy warpflames for their blasphemy of his great work and then turn to the Mechanicum and say "Alright, you'd better get those STC's working, and if I hear anymore of this religious babble over the machines, I'm kicking your ass as well."
Then he'd probably march into the Eye of Terror, punch Slaanesh in the face and force the Warp Breach closed with his bare hands. Then he'd go find what remains of his Sons and start slapping them in the heads one by one. Even the comatose ones like Girly-Man and so-forth.
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Actually, I take that all back. The very FIRST thing he would do is unclench his butt cheeks and take a dump, seeing as how he's been sitting on a warp rift for over 10,000 years with demons poking him in the ass with pitchforks. XD
+ take a shower, after 10,000 years you must smell worse than first captain typhus of the death guard.
After all this time he probably smells like feet wrapped in leathery, burnt bacon.
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Post by: jim300
I'm little bit surprised that lot of people think the emperor somekind of cure-all. Remember, emperor isn't a perfect.
There's no doubt about that he is a great man, but there is a limitation.
Why he made the Primach and Space marines? Because he couldn't handle all by himself.
Why he made alliance with mechanicum though his hatred about religion? Because he didn't want the large scale civil war,
He let the World eater and Night lord for many centuries because he thought he need them. Is there somebody who think they are the 'good' guy?
There are many other proof that he isn't neither absoulte-good nor almighty. Somekind of Thunder Warriors and his unawareness of Horus Heresy.
I think people who say that emperor will smash Inquisiton and Ecclesiarchy instantly or make some alliance with xeno have some fantasy about emperor.
Maybe they forgot that Inquistion established by the order of the emperor. Why he would break up that by himeself?
Yeah, maybe they need some reform, I belive that he can change the inquistion and Ecclesiarchy.
But he wouldn't use a hard-line policy with them. They are too powerful in current Empire. Maybe stonger than mechanicum of pre-heresy. He will appease them by their belief to him.
And to the guy that he will make alliance with xeno, what make you guys to believe like that? Was there any description about his mercy to the xeno?
Abbadon said we need to slay that FuXXing Xeno lovers and it will be the emperor's will when they meet the Xenobia. Xenophobia was somekind of national policy.(well this isn't chaned in 40k). I can't understand what make you guys to think 'he will change his mind after his long dreaming'
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Post by: Orblivion
Happyjew wrote:jhe90 wrote: TheRedWingArmada wrote:The Emperor (the REAL Emperor) first order of business? KILLING OFF THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF HIS IMPERIUM.
Second order of business would then be to summon the Mechanicum of Mars and the Ecclesiarchy together in the same room, so the Mechanicum can watch the Ecclesiarchy go up in holy warpflames for their blasphemy of his great work and then turn to the Mechanicum and say "Alright, you'd better get those STC's working, and if I hear anymore of this religious babble over the machines, I'm kicking your ass as well."
Then he'd probably march into the Eye of Terror, punch Slaanesh in the face and force the Warp Breach closed with his bare hands. Then he'd go find what remains of his Sons and start slapping them in the heads one by one. Even the comatose ones like Girly-Man and so-forth.
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Actually, I take that all back. The very FIRST thing he would do is unclench his butt cheeks and take a dump, seeing as how he's been sitting on a warp rift for over 10,000 years with demons poking him in the ass with pitchforks. XD
+ take a shower, after 10,000 years you must smell worse than first captain typhus of the death guard.
After all this time he probably smells like feet wrapped in leathery, burnt bacon.
Ahh, robot chicken. It would be great to see a 40k episode similar to the Star Wars episodes.
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Post by: Kain
Wyzilla wrote: Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote:
Unlikely. While funny (and I'm an Alfa Legionnaire so I'm obligated to support the Chapter Master), the GEOM iirc has actually been consoius the entire time since the Horus Heresy and thus is aware of such entities like the Inquisition and probably wouldn't even think of disbanding them as Malcador created them with his knowledge. As for his immediate actions, probably allying with the Eldar officially and charging forward to break the back of the Black Legion and Word Bearers.
I can't imagine the Emperor giving Abaddon the same leniency he gave Horus.
Or Abaddon being even remotely as threatening to him as Horus was. I mean, look at their stats; Horus without any chaos power is ridiculously out of Abaddon with the favour of the Dark Gods' league.
No wonder Abby has daddy issues.
Oh yes. Abaddon is fethed if the GEOM shows up to kill him, he's still just an Astartes compared to the GEOM who's capable of backhanding C'tan Shards without much danger to himself. First order of business will be crippling the Black Legion and the Word Bearers. Once that's done, the threat of Chaos Space Marines is largely over as there's little chance of any future unified Black Crusades unless one of the Primarch steps in. The next step would likely be kicking the Tyranids out of the Galaxy with aid of the Eldar.
Also, with the GEOM directly communicating with the Eldar, they'll probably become allies as there is no longer a danger of the Eldar believing the Emperor subject to Chaos taint, and with the GEOM's main goal to kick out the imminent threats and cripple the ability of Chaos to enter the materium. I also doubt the Eldar's arrogance of him being a "mere" ape would continue when they're witness to his true power that hilariously overshadows that of all the Farseers, probably even combined.
"Abaddon, allow me to alleviate your concerns that yes, I do walk among men once more, with blade and claw in hand, and Tactical Dreadnought Armour enwrapping me once more. Now...for eleven thousand years I've mulled over what I should say to you, what admonishments I should give for your choice to follow Horus' path. And every time I pondered this, I came to same conclusion. Why bother? You're less than a shadow of what Horus was. Even now with all your supposed favour of Chaos, your daemon blade, and the Talon you so unthoughtfully looted from his body, you're the scantest fraction of what Horus was. Even when he was pure and true, Horus lay claim to more power than you have. You insult his name by claiming his title, his legion, his claw. And now you seek to redo all that he did when even the gods of Chaos see you as just a pale imitation of Luprecal? I don't have time for you, goodbye."
And with that, the Emperor just flat out incinerates Abaddon with a hard look.
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Post by: Rune Stonegrinder
more Info needed:
Did the emperor regenerate and walk off the golden throne? or are we talking reincarnation, as in his corpse on the Golden Throne finally died and he came back via rebirth? or two seperate entities via an Avatar and the Golden Throne?
Regeneration: Probably walk into the same room with the High Lords of Terra and proceed to kill them for thier Incompetence.
Reincarnation or 2 entities: The High Lords would claim him false and cause a civil war.
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Post by: TheRedWingArmada
jhe90 wrote:Lexacnium, says he still has armour, cracked n with plauqe vents, and yes flies but not sure if 100% composed of them.
The Emperor is nothing but bones and dead skin. Typhus absolutely still has a fleshy body beneath his armor and the plague of the Destroyer Hive. Such is the ways of Nurgle that while you fall apart, you still have parts to fall off.
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Post by: Wyzilla
Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote: Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote:
Unlikely. While funny (and I'm an Alfa Legionnaire so I'm obligated to support the Chapter Master), the GEOM iirc has actually been consoius the entire time since the Horus Heresy and thus is aware of such entities like the Inquisition and probably wouldn't even think of disbanding them as Malcador created them with his knowledge. As for his immediate actions, probably allying with the Eldar officially and charging forward to break the back of the Black Legion and Word Bearers.
I can't imagine the Emperor giving Abaddon the same leniency he gave Horus.
Or Abaddon being even remotely as threatening to him as Horus was. I mean, look at their stats; Horus without any chaos power is ridiculously out of Abaddon with the favour of the Dark Gods' league.
No wonder Abby has daddy issues.
Oh yes. Abaddon is fethed if the GEOM shows up to kill him, he's still just an Astartes compared to the GEOM who's capable of backhanding C'tan Shards without much danger to himself. First order of business will be crippling the Black Legion and the Word Bearers. Once that's done, the threat of Chaos Space Marines is largely over as there's little chance of any future unified Black Crusades unless one of the Primarch steps in. The next step would likely be kicking the Tyranids out of the Galaxy with aid of the Eldar.
Also, with the GEOM directly communicating with the Eldar, they'll probably become allies as there is no longer a danger of the Eldar believing the Emperor subject to Chaos taint, and with the GEOM's main goal to kick out the imminent threats and cripple the ability of Chaos to enter the materium. I also doubt the Eldar's arrogance of him being a "mere" ape would continue when they're witness to his true power that hilariously overshadows that of all the Farseers, probably even combined.
"Abaddon, allow me to alleviate your concerns that yes, I do walk among men once more, with blade and claw in hand, and Tactical Dreadnought Armour enwrapping me once more. Now...for eleven thousand years I've mulled over what I should say to you, what admonishments I should give for your choice to follow Horus' path. And every time I pondered this, I came to same conclusion. Why bother? You're less than a shadow of what Horus was. Even now with all your supposed favour of Chaos, your daemon blade, and the Talon you so unthoughtfully looted from his body, you're the scantest fraction of what Horus was. Even when he was pure and true, Horus lay claim to more power than you have. You insult his name by claiming his title, his legion, his claw. And now you seek to redo all that he did when even the gods of Chaos see you as just a pale imitation of Luprecal? I don't have time for you, goodbye."
And with that, the Emperor just flat out incinerates Abaddon with a hard look.
I also think he'd probably be pissed on some level of Abaddon trashing his son's legacy. Horus may have betrayed him, but that doesn't mean you have to be an ass and deface his legacy, label him an utter failure, and attempt to distance yourself from your spiritual father while also trying to steal his legacy.
Also, the GEOM didn't wear terminator armor. IIRC it was just special made artificer armor that was the best money could buy.
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Post by: jhe90
Wyzilla wrote: Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote: Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote:
Unlikely. While funny (and I'm an Alfa Legionnaire so I'm obligated to support the Chapter Master), the GEOM iirc has actually been consoius the entire time since the Horus Heresy and thus is aware of such entities like the Inquisition and probably wouldn't even think of disbanding them as Malcador created them with his knowledge. As for his immediate actions, probably allying with the Eldar officially and charging forward to break the back of the Black Legion and Word Bearers.
I can't imagine the Emperor giving Abaddon the same leniency he gave Horus.
Or Abaddon being even remotely as threatening to him as Horus was. I mean, look at their stats; Horus without any chaos power is ridiculously out of Abaddon with the favour of the Dark Gods' league.
No wonder Abby has daddy issues.
Oh yes. Abaddon is fethed if the GEOM shows up to kill him, he's still just an Astartes compared to the GEOM who's capable of backhanding C'tan Shards without much danger to himself. First order of business will be crippling the Black Legion and the Word Bearers. Once that's done, the threat of Chaos Space Marines is largely over as there's little chance of any future unified Black Crusades unless one of the Primarch steps in. The next step would likely be kicking the Tyranids out of the Galaxy with aid of the Eldar.
Also, with the GEOM directly communicating with the Eldar, they'll probably become allies as there is no longer a danger of the Eldar believing the Emperor subject to Chaos taint, and with the GEOM's main goal to kick out the imminent threats and cripple the ability of Chaos to enter the materium. I also doubt the Eldar's arrogance of him being a "mere" ape would continue when they're witness to his true power that hilariously overshadows that of all the Farseers, probably even combined.
"Abaddon, allow me to alleviate your concerns that yes, I do walk among men once more, with blade and claw in hand, and Tactical Dreadnought Armour enwrapping me once more. Now...for eleven thousand years I've mulled over what I should say to you, what admonishments I should give for your choice to follow Horus' path. And every time I pondered this, I came to same conclusion. Why bother? You're less than a shadow of what Horus was. Even now with all your supposed favour of Chaos, your daemon blade, and the Talon you so unthoughtfully looted from his body, you're the scantest fraction of what Horus was. Even when he was pure and true, Horus lay claim to more power than you have. You insult his name by claiming his title, his legion, his claw. And now you seek to redo all that he did when even the gods of Chaos see you as just a pale imitation of Luprecal? I don't have time for you, goodbye."
And with that, the Emperor just flat out incinerates Abaddon with a hard look.
I also think he'd probably be pissed on some level of Abaddon trashing his son's legacy. Horus may have betrayed him, but that doesn't mean you have to be an ass and deface his legacy, label him an utter failure, and attempt to distance yourself from your spiritual father while also trying to steal his legacy.
Also, the GEOM didn't wear terminator armor. IIRC it was just special made artificer armor that was the best money could buy.
Even with deamon blade + claw, a full powered goem would swat him like a fly. Even with termite armour + chaos marks etc it would be vaporized by a mere thought. Her is greatest phisker ever to live.
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Post by: Selym
TheRedWingArmada wrote:jhe90 wrote:Lexacnium, says he still has armour, cracked n with plauqe vents, and yes flies but not sure if 100% composed of them.
The Emperor is nothing but bones and dead skin. Typhus absolutely still has a fleshy body beneath his armor and the plague of the Destroyer Hive. Such is the ways of Nurgle that while you fall apart, you still have parts to fall off.
Tbf, at this point, any flesh that Typhus has is due to some ind of warp-paradox in which the parasites eat more than his weight in flesh, but never run out of any.
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Post by: Silverthorne
Probably send out a psychic signal to all the missing primarchs ordering them to return to terra. And making another one of those super geneseed things that the alpha legion stole from the raven guard.
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Post by: PaperworkNinja
Okay, under the assumption he "wakes up," it's resetting the Astronomicon.
Under the assumption he's "reborn," I'm going to go with the ancient Star Child heresy, because it will make things go from bad to worse.
First there will be both the Ecclesiarchy AND Lorgar singing "We Bloody Told You So That You Were God." Once the new Warp-Emperor attains consciousness his first words are likely to be "Well, this is unexpected," "Oops," or "Oh, bother."
THEN there's going to be the billions of psykers who suffer from the Worst Aneurysm Ever, thus dooming humanity to millennia of being stuck on their individual planets. Now, they can risk warp travel, but they'll either be instant demon chow or they'll be instant Emperor chow. The Emperor in his new Warp form will likely suck out lots of souls dedicated to him without conscious thought.
On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Oh, did I mention that since the Golden Throne is also supposed to be a link to the Webway, THAT gets bent over a giant metaphysical barrel, too? Both flavors of Eldar are going to be very upset.
As to what it will do to the Tyranids and their Shadow in the Warp, I don't know. But it will likely upset them and make them ravenous AND angry.
Orks are gonna Ork, though.
Short version: Emperor embarrasses himself by becoming God after all this time of planning not to become God, Humanity dies as a result.
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Post by: Happyjew
PaperworkNinja wrote:Oh, did I mention that since the Golden Throne is also supposed to be a link to the Webway, THAT gets bent over a giant metaphysical barrel, too? Both flavors of Eldar are going to be very upset.
Was it ever established that the portion built by the Emperor was connected to the Webway proper?
Besides, even if it was, would the Eldar not have sealed it off to prevent humans from access?
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Post by: Psienesis
On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Actually, a pulse of Warp-energy of that magnitude might destroy the Void Dragon. It is noted that the C'Tan cannot deal with the Warp, at all, and it was anathemic to them, which is why they needed the Necrons to fight the Old Ones.
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Post by: TheRedWingArmada
Selym wrote: TheRedWingArmada wrote:jhe90 wrote:Lexacnium, says he still has armour, cracked n with plauqe vents, and yes flies but not sure if 100% composed of them.
The Emperor is nothing but bones and dead skin. Typhus absolutely still has a fleshy body beneath his armor and the plague of the Destroyer Hive. Such is the ways of Nurgle that while you fall apart, you still have parts to fall off.
Tbf, at this point, any flesh that Typhus has is due to some ind of warp-paradox in which the parasites eat more than his weight in flesh, but never run out of any.
Agreed. As Papa Legba said, "Time move differently in Hell."
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Post by: Wyzilla
Psienesis wrote:On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Actually, a pulse of Warp-energy of that magnitude might destroy the Void Dragon. It is noted that the C'Tan cannot deal with the Warp, at all, and it was anathemic to them, which is why they needed the Necrons to fight the Old Ones.
Also, isn't the Void Dragon likely located on Mars just a shard?
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Post by: Kain
Wyzilla wrote: Psienesis wrote:On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Actually, a pulse of Warp-energy of that magnitude might destroy the Void Dragon. It is noted that the C'Tan cannot deal with the Warp, at all, and it was anathemic to them, which is why they needed the Necrons to fight the Old Ones.
Also, isn't the Void Dragon likely located on Mars just a shard?
It is.
No C'tan escaped being sharded.
It does make the Dyson sphere for the Outsider a bit redundant though, unless it's full of billions of outsider shards or something.
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Post by: Wyzilla
Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote: Psienesis wrote:On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Actually, a pulse of Warp-energy of that magnitude might destroy the Void Dragon. It is noted that the C'Tan cannot deal with the Warp, at all, and it was anathemic to them, which is why they needed the Necrons to fight the Old Ones.
Also, isn't the Void Dragon likely located on Mars just a shard?
It is.
No C'tan escaped being sharded.
It does make the Dyson sphere for the Outsider a bit redundant though, unless it's full of billions of outsider shards or something.
Then it's boned. An actual C'tan could probably put up a fight if not stand a chance of winning, but a mere shard? Hell Space Marine Captains have tangled with them and survived. The Emperor would blow it out of the water like a jet going mach 5 right over a small toy boat. Nobody will be able to tell what the hell happened, just that the shard of the Void Dragon is gone.
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Post by: Kain
Wyzilla wrote: Kain wrote: Wyzilla wrote: Psienesis wrote:On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Actually, a pulse of Warp-energy of that magnitude might destroy the Void Dragon. It is noted that the C'Tan cannot deal with the Warp, at all, and it was anathemic to them, which is why they needed the Necrons to fight the Old Ones.
Also, isn't the Void Dragon likely located on Mars just a shard?
It is.
No C'tan escaped being sharded.
It does make the Dyson sphere for the Outsider a bit redundant though, unless it's full of billions of outsider shards or something.
Then it's boned. An actual C'tan could probably put up a fight if not stand a chance of winning, but a mere shard? Hell Space Marine Captains have tangled with them and survived. The Emperor would blow it out of the water like a jet going mach 5 right over a small toy boat. Nobody will be able to tell what the hell happened, just that the shard of the Void Dragon is gone.
Not all shards are created equal. Some have absorbed other shards to grow themselves, some were sharded extra-hard, some pieces are bigger than others, some have been divided since the war in heaven's closure.
It's likely that the Void Dragon Shard on mars is a bit bigger than your standard "fits in a tesseract labyrinth with ease and can be summoned like a Pokemon" Shard.
Likely even bigger than most Transcendant C'tan.
It's a mere fragment of the glory that the Void Dragon used to be however.
It'd still be terrible news if it got up and the Emperor would probably like to check that all the locks on it are extra-secured. Perhaps use it as a bargaining chip with Szarekh, Galactic monarch to Galactic monarch to try and negotiate a settlement with some of the Necrons.
He'd also likely try to negotiate something with other xenos who can listen to reason such as the Tau, Slann, and Q'Orl so that he can focus on the unreasonable factions such as Chaos, the Orks, the Tyranids, those Necrons who pooh pooh on the very concept of treating with lessers or would rather die than ever follow Szarekh again, the Rak'Gol, Slaugth, and so on.
It may be a temporary alliance, but with millions of Tomb worlds in wait, the Orks getting more unified and uppity than they have been in years, more Tyranids than there are stars in every galaxy and grains of sand on every beach coming, and new angry Xenos crawling out of the wood-works constantly, he needs all the support he can get.
Getting the Primarchs back isn't even on the top ten list of things he needs to do to save the galaxy. Yeah it'd be nice to have them by his side again, but ultimately they're roughly a half dozen men in a galaxy whose existence hasn't been so imperiled since the War in Heaven. The Imperium's enemies are much more diverse and powerful than they have ever been and what the Emperor needs is to get the most important assets to winning a war running at full capacity.
Although ironically, in their Daemonic States, the Fallen Primarchs would be much easier for the Emperor to deal with than they were as mortals. Given how casually he could banish the likes of Doombreed and Draigo's handling of Mortarion, he no longer has to physically overcome them, he can just tell them to feth off back into the warp and think about what they've done.
He needs to get the Imperium on an actual total war footing for one. You know that unreasonable demand the strategic collective made if the Imperium was to have even a small chance to survive the Tyranids? He needs to do that and then some. Recruitment needs to reach 10% or more on every planet. Everyone the Imperium can spare must be pressed into the military or production jobs.
Ship manufacturing must be increased massively. The Astartes, Sororitas, Tempestus, Skitarii, Arbites, Militarum, and what not can't do much of anything without ships to ferry them. The Navy is needed more than ever. Manufacturing processes and the sharing of STCs must be improved. No more forgeworlds hoarding STCs and not letting anyone else have a peek, no more taking decades to make ships or titans, the Emperor's soldiers need materiel in huge amounts. Having quadrillions of men and women does the Imperium no good if they don't have the support they need.
The discriminated abhumans? Yeah cut that gak out and get them in on the recruitment effort. Beastmen and the like would be less likely to end up joining Chaos or Genestealer cults or defecting to the Tau if they were treated reasonably and more warm bodies are needed from every corner. More Space marine chapters, Mechanicus Legions, Sororitas Orders, and Tempestus regiments must be created to join with the massive swelling of the Imperial Guard. Elite formations flying out the ass.
The Mechanicus needs to be given the Emperor's blessing to begin innovating at a faster pace once again. Combine the discovery of new STCs with an increase in the rate of original or derivative technologies produced to at least great crusade levels. The Mechanicus are competent scientists and engineers, but they've mired in the grip of techno-conservatism for too long. Well no more, now their actual god is telling them to get off their asses and start brainstorming. If the Xenos allies can be convinced to share a little, let the Mechanicus divine some secrets. Be cautious, as Xenos tech can often be as bad for your soul as Chaos artefacts (Necron science is really bad with causing madness in techpriests), but accept that there are some ideas worth humanizing.
The Ecclessiarchy can stay, the Emperor may not like it, but they're too useful to dispose of and turning around and dissolving them would create too much strife when the Imperium absolutely cannot afford that. As I said before, they're a problem for later, though some admonishments may need to be given (much like how some elements of the inquisition may need a stern talking to), but in the meantime, use them to humanity's advantage. Have them whip up the human population into a religious fervour, use their joy regarding the Emperor's return to inspire hope in the time of ending and get everyone on board.
Secure allies as we've mentioned before. Anyone who can be made into a partner should be made into one. Look for bargaining chips if need be. Like if there's any way to free Isha to win the respect of the Eldar; do so, and whether or not that's possible, be sure to talk to Cegorach as the Harlequins are highly reasonable and hold the respect or fear of all Eldar. If Ynnead can work, get the ball on that rolling and help with soulstone recovery. If Ynnead does work and kills off Slaanesh, excellent, and even then ensuring co-operation with the Eldar is always nice.
I already mentioned the Tau and Szarekh. Other Necron dynasties also seem to be varying degrees of reasonable. See if Trazyn would be willing to work with the Emperor (and possibly release Vulkan) in exchange for gifts to appeal to his Kleptomaniacal nature, take a look if Imotekh can be appealed to. But Szarekh is definitely the guy to speak to given that he's co-operated with humanity in the past, he and the Emperor have their commonalities (both were the rulers of galactic hegemonies and struggled with gods), and he's honorable enough to be trusted. The Tau on the other hand are a piece of cake to negotiate with.
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Post by: Toastaster
Psienesis wrote:On top of that Holy Terra will be the center of a brand new warp storm that I'll call The Eye of Whoops. Astronomically-speaking, it's one apartment-thin wall away from Mars. The warp energy from The Eye of Whoops will no doubt awaken the Void Dragon, if indeed the C'tan entity slumbers under the Martian soil. The overlords of the Adeptus Mechanicus get absorbed into the Void Dragon and hey look, Necrons appear!
Actually, a pulse of Warp-energy of that magnitude might destroy the Void Dragon. It is noted that the C'Tan cannot deal with the Warp, at all, and it was anathemic to them, which is why they needed the Necrons to fight the Old Ones.
Hang on a minute, I thought the only reason Human technology worked was because of the void dragon? Or have I just made that up? If so, does that mean when the void Dragon wakes up all Human tech sides with him and EVERY planet reverts to a feral state?
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Post by: Rune Stonegrinder
I hate the new Necron Story Arc, I still like it when the C'tan were the rules of all Necrons. I love the sotry that a Necron vessel landed on Mars only to de destroyed moments later leaving a question did someone escape to wake the Void Dragon or infiltrate the Adeptus Mechanicus?
Not a big fan that the Necrons destroyed thier masters, the storyline seemed richer with the C'tan roaming the galaxy in charge.
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Post by: Exergy
I think the question of what happens when he comes back is pretty simple. He starts rebuilding the astronomican, looking for more able administrators, making government more efficient, reforming the eclestary, unmindf&^@ing Marcs to get the mechanicus back on track.
The question is, if the emperor was reborn/wakes up tomorrow, what would the other side do to counter it.
The forces of Chaos are fragmented, right now they wait knowing that the emperor is either weakening or staying the same. If he is reborn, they will know their moment to strike is now. There are 6-8 fallen primarchs out there doing their own thing, countless fracture warlords, and abby all waiting for a unifying message. The god emperor waking up is that message. If reborn, he will never be weaker than the day he is reborn, the 14th great crusade begins that day, and it would be larger than anything short of the HH in size and scope.
Similarly Eldar of all types would probably end up doing something, as a new emperor would be a threat to their existence.
Tyranids are currently approaching the psykis astronomican, if it gets rebuilt/more powerful, will they increase their speed?
Newcrons might not know what is going on at first, not being able to detect a reborn psykic being like the emperor at first. But if they did, would they just let him rebuild mankind?
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Post by: Wyzilla
Rune Stonegrinder wrote:I hate the new Necron Story Arc, I still like it when the C'tan were the rules of all Necrons. I love the sotry that a Necron vessel landed on Mars only to de destroyed moments later leaving a question did someone escape to wake the Void Dragon or infiltrate the Adeptus Mechanicus? Not a big fan that the Necrons destroyed thier masters, the storyline seemed richer with the C'tan roaming the galaxy in charge. No, the C'tan are still threat. IIRC shards actually cannot be "destroyed" in that the essence of the C'tan contained within will be swalloed up. The 6th Edition Apocalypse rules state that the C'tan are actually reforming, with the freed shards have fused together and now swim across the stars to swallow up their broken pieces as they rebuild themselves. Unless the GEOM and Necrons teamed up to rebuild the horrible universe-breaking technology used in the first place to shatter the C'tan, the best that can be done for now is bury the shards as deep as you can. Hell I'd consider reformed C'tan even worse of a threat than Chaos. Chaos most certainly is the most powerful faction given its ridiculous power within the warp and access to other universes to feed off, but it needs mortal aide to secure a permanent foothold outside of its home dimension. C'tan meanwhile are the masters of the Materium and, were they to reform, would go on a killing spree zipping around the galaxy dropping black holes on people they don't like and blowing up star systems wherever they went. Exergy wrote:I think the question of what happens when he comes back is pretty simple. He starts rebuilding the astronomican, looking for more able administrators, making government more efficient, reforming the eclestary, unmindf&^@ing Marcs to get the mechanicus back on track. The question is, if the emperor was reborn/wakes up tomorrow, what would the other side do to counter it. The forces of Chaos are fragmented, right now they wait knowing that the emperor is either weakening or staying the same. If he is reborn, they will know their moment to strike is now. There are 6-8 fallen primarchs out there doing their own thing, countless fracture warlords, and abby all waiting for a unifying message. The god emperor waking up is that message. If reborn, he will never be weaker than the day he is reborn, the 14th great crusade begins that day, and it would be larger than anything short of the HH in size and scope. Similarly Eldar of all types would probably end up doing something, as a new emperor would be a threat to their existence. Tyranids are currently approaching the psykis astronomican, if it gets rebuilt/more powerful, will they increase their speed? Newcrons might not know what is going on at first, not being able to detect a reborn psykic being like the emperor at first. But if they did, would they just let him rebuild mankind? The GEOM will be stupidly stronger than he's ever been upon rising actually. The GEOM might qualify as his own warp entity now (along with shcrodinger existence) thanks to him feeding on the worship of mankind for ten millennium, sacrifices, and has a bunch of souls in his possession, also maybe rivaling an individual Chaos God. He probably is a full warp entity if the Legion of the Damned turn out to actually be daemons of the GEOM.
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Post by: jhe90
Given there nature they may be warp entities given form by his sheer power level.
They do whenever whenever impirial help is at its most desperate, at the exact right time.
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Post by: some bloke
He'd go back in time to try and stop horus, overshoot and have to bide his time in the ranks, realise how incosiderate he was, get turned over to chaos, try to kill himself and, in a momentary lapse of concentration he realises that he has become horus. during this lull the emporor kills him and nearly kills himself, and so the story restarts.
no-one will ever know that chaos and the imperium are descended from the same person.
this constant cycle is the cause for the endless supply of burning blades.
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Post by: BlaxicanX
I imagine that his first priority would be to sit his ass on the Golden Throne and never leave it.
I.E. the same thing he's been doing, except also taking dumps and stuff regularly.
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Post by: Wyzilla
jhe90 wrote:Given there nature they may be warp entities given form by his sheer power level.
They do whenever whenever impirial help is at its most desperate, at the exact right time.
Not just that, they're full-blown truly immortal ghosts that can walk right through walls of fire, teleport, and phase like ghosts in W40K. And the Eldar, who tend to be the experts on things relating tot he Immaterium, believe them to be Daemons.
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Post by: Exergy
Wyzilla wrote:
Exergy wrote:I think the question of what happens when he comes back is pretty simple. He starts rebuilding the astronomican, looking for more able administrators, making government more efficient, reforming the eclestary, unmindf&^@ing Marcs to get the mechanicus back on track.
The question is, if the emperor was reborn/wakes up tomorrow, what would the other side do to counter it.
The forces of Chaos are fragmented, right now they wait knowing that the emperor is either weakening or staying the same. If he is reborn, they will know their moment to strike is now. There are 6-8 fallen primarchs out there doing their own thing, countless fracture warlords, and abby all waiting for a unifying message. The god emperor waking up is that message. If reborn, he will never be weaker than the day he is reborn, the 14th great crusade begins that day, and it would be larger than anything short of the HH in size and scope.
The GEOM will be stupidly stronger than he's ever been upon rising actually. The GEOM might qualify as his own warp entity now (along with shcrodinger existence) thanks to him feeding on the worship of mankind for ten millennium, sacrifices, and has a bunch of souls in his possession, also maybe rivaling an individual Chaos God. He probably is a full warp entity if the Legion of the Damned turn out to actually be daemons of the GEOM.
sure he will be strong, but that wont stop the fragmented forces of chaos from attacking as it will be their last chance before he and the imperium get even stronger. No matter how strong he is when reborn, he wont be able to be everywhere at once, and as I said there will be a huge force(or perhaps 2 or 3) heading for him, wrecking havoc on the IoM
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Post by: Kain
Exergy wrote: Wyzilla wrote:
Exergy wrote:I think the question of what happens when he comes back is pretty simple. He starts rebuilding the astronomican, looking for more able administrators, making government more efficient, reforming the eclestary, unmindf&^@ing Marcs to get the mechanicus back on track.
The question is, if the emperor was reborn/wakes up tomorrow, what would the other side do to counter it.
The forces of Chaos are fragmented, right now they wait knowing that the emperor is either weakening or staying the same. If he is reborn, they will know their moment to strike is now. There are 6-8 fallen primarchs out there doing their own thing, countless fracture warlords, and abby all waiting for a unifying message. The god emperor waking up is that message. If reborn, he will never be weaker than the day he is reborn, the 14th great crusade begins that day, and it would be larger than anything short of the HH in size and scope.
The GEOM will be stupidly stronger than he's ever been upon rising actually. The GEOM might qualify as his own warp entity now (along with shcrodinger existence) thanks to him feeding on the worship of mankind for ten millennium, sacrifices, and has a bunch of souls in his possession, also maybe rivaling an individual Chaos God. He probably is a full warp entity if the Legion of the Damned turn out to actually be daemons of the GEOM.
sure he will be strong, but that wont stop the fragmented forces of chaos from attacking as it will be their last chance before he and the imperium get even stronger. No matter how strong he is when reborn, he wont be able to be everywhere at once, and as I said there will be a huge force(or perhaps 2 or 3) heading for him, wrecking havoc on the IoM
If he kills Abaddon and the Mournival upon waking up (which he can do by farting out another warp-storm), the Black Legion splinters.
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Post by: Psienesis
Codex: Necron indicates that at least one C'Tan was truly destroyed during the WIH. L-something-or-other, I cannot pronounce these Cthulhu-esque names.
The last time the Void Dragon and the Emperor fought, the Emperor beat the piss out of it armed with an iron sword and wearing primitive plate-mail. Starving Shard or not, this supposed Star God had its ass handed to it and was then drugged, by horse, to Mars.
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Post by: BlaxicanX
Yeah, I really don't understand what the feth kind of drugs Graham Mcneil was on when he wrote that scene.
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Post by: The Home Nuggeteer
Macha. Nuff said. In all seriousness i feel he would get rid of the codex astartes, wake up the lion from his nap and heal guilman. But hey, i play imperial guard what do I know about spess mereens and stuff?
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Post by: mattyrm
Zookie wrote:If the Emperor were to be reborn what would be his first priority in restoring the Imperium?
He is a ruler.
His absolute number one priority will be collecting fething taxes.
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Post by: Wyzilla
Psienesis wrote:Codex: Necron indicates that at least one C'Tan was truly destroyed during the WIH. L-something-or-other, I cannot pronounce these Cthulhu-esque names.
The last time the Void Dragon and the Emperor fought, the Emperor beat the piss out of it armed with an iron sword and wearing primitive plate-mail. Starving Shard or not, this supposed Star God had its ass handed to it and was then drugged, by horse, to Mars.
It was destroyed with similar Necron tech that broke the universe as C'tan are a part of the universe itself from what I can make out of the gibberish in the Necron Codex. They didn't try to kill the others though after the C'tan they slew created the flayer plague.
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Post by: Kain
Wyzilla wrote: Psienesis wrote:Codex: Necron indicates that at least one C'Tan was truly destroyed during the WIH. L-something-or-other, I cannot pronounce these Cthulhu-esque names.
The last time the Void Dragon and the Emperor fought, the Emperor beat the piss out of it armed with an iron sword and wearing primitive plate-mail. Starving Shard or not, this supposed Star God had its ass handed to it and was then drugged, by horse, to Mars.
It was destroyed with similar Necron tech that broke the universe as C'tan are a part of the universe itself from what I can make out of the gibberish in the Necron Codex. They didn't try to kill the others though after the C'tan they slew created the flayer plague.
The Maynarkh Dynasty destroyed that C'tan by reducing it to pieces so small that infintisemal pieces of it became the flayer curse. Whoopsies.
As for the Emperor and the Void shard, that says more about the Emperor than the Void shard, given that the Void Dragon took bombardment from multiple blackstone fortresses and everything the Old Ones could throw at it as an irritant at best.
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Post by: Deadshot
the shrouded lord wrote:bitch-slap every inquisitor except the ones that are actually good people (0.000001 % of them).
announce the salamanders the best chapter.
walk up the grey knights and shake every one of them. then he would lead the ultramarines, grey knights, and all of the rest (except for slamanders, imperial fists, and a few others)
punch Abaddon THROUGH his face.
and then go visit Macha. privately. for about a month.
I agree with everything except the Inquisition. The Emperor personally approved the original 4 Inquisitors and their job description. To this day the Inquisition is one of the few groups that has done what the Emperor intended for it.
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Post by: Psienesis
Let's also be honest... even as a living being, the Emperor was not going to win the Mr. Nice Guy of the Year award. Inquisitors are ruthless individuals, *exactly* as the Emperor required they be. He, himself, thinks absolutely nothing of putting an entire human culture to the sword that refuses to swear fealty to him.
Lawful Good, the God-Emperor ain't.
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Post by: jhe90
But a powerful war leader that they will need if things get darker he is.
Not good guy but one who would give humanity a new direction, purpose and strong leadership
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Post by: Psienesis
No arguments there, but if the Emp were to suddenly return, he's not going to be all Truth, Justice and the American Way as if he were Superman or something. The guy's a tyrant of the worst sort imaginable. Nothing in the way the Imperium functions is going to radically change.
Even the Ecclesiarchy isn't going anywhere, because they worship him.
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Post by: jhe90
Nothing will change in that respect no.
However the he is going to stop some of the inter battles, sqaubles and problems that have plauqed it as vs the high lords its the true King vs the caretaker.
If he says jump they jump.
A brutal tyrant, but the tyrant needed to run such a vast empire
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Post by: Supertony51
I think the first thing would be to abolish the imperial cult. Secondly he would tell the Mechanicus that he is the machine god, and to quit sitting on there ass and actually invent some new stuff.
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Post by: Inquisitor Bob
Finish completing the Human Webway portal... after all why would you stop hallway?
oh.. that's right.. an donkey-cave of a son killing you dead...
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Post by: Selym
Inquisitor Bob wrote:Finish completing the Human Webway portal... after all why would you stop hallway?
oh.. that's right.. an donkey-cave of a son killing you dead...
Well somebody seems upset :3
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
He would kill all the demons, that try to storm the webway portal behind his golden throne, he would purge the imperial government and inquisition of undesirables, recall some primarchs that are still alive and revive some others with his increase powers because all of the Imperial worshipers and then would return to his great plan, and while being in the warp he would remember the Frank Herbert Dune books and will work to get the human race on the golden path. This time without mistakes.
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