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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 05:52:21


Post by: Lord Kaesar II


This psychos gang concept interests me, though the idea and image instantly brought to mind the Scarecrow from the latest batch of Batman movies out, especially with the idea of escaped crazies wreaking havoc.

Expand on your idea, I like it. Kaesar II


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 10:30:36


Post by: Scrazza


@Baiyuan: I did it again didn't I? I always get overexcited with working with GS, and tend to forget to mind fingerprints. I hope I can file those fingerprints off. It'll have a rough texture then, but that's fine.

@Vik: haha, cold water isn't neede anymore, it just started raining like hell here

@Lord Kaesar II: I have never been a big fan of batman, or any other superheroes, so I'll have to look those scarecrows up sometime. But thanks, and I hope I can find some time to do some modeling. Exams are starting again.

Otherwise, I finished the cyber samurai this morning. C&C welcome.

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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 12:10:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


cybersamurai looks good, but me thinks.,..what for? and why is he a cyber---samurai? does he wear a sort of gasmask or is it just your typical average mask?


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 12:16:44


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks, and yes, he is wearing a gasmask. Besides, the model's from Urban Mammoth, a company that makes Sci-Fi and cyber miniatures. This one is from the Triad range.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 12:23:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ups... know that range but couldn´t associate the mini with that range... looked more classic than modern...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 12:35:49


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:ups... know that range but couldn´t associate the mini with that range... looked more classic than modern...


Yes it does. But that's what the designers wanted I think. The original background of these guys are that they hold true to the old ways, and have their lives led by honor. So that means they get to have spears and gasmasks


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 12:43:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


^^ and do you just did this one model or will you make more of that range to go for a possible future necro gang? the range of these minis would definatly make that doable...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/05 13:22:45


Post by: Scrazza


I have another one of these lying around. Also, I've got 8 triad retainers, so yes, this might be the start of a new gang. Or at least some cool gangers to spread out in other gangs.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/08 09:02:29


Post by: hendaron


Really like the samurai Scrazz!
Been a bit inactive on models last half year, and with my finals coming up, I don't think I will have spare time either... -_-


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/08 09:58:18


Post by: neil101


samurai looks better in this light mate , nice work on finishing him, colour scheme looks good


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/08 11:59:59


Post by: Scrazza


@Hendaron Thanks! I just did my first exam an hour ago. Damn, it didn't went well... Maths...

@Neil: Thanks mate!


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/09 15:58:35


Post by: Darkvoidof40k


Scrazza wrote:Maths...


Oh man I understand you totally. All those big number-words are too confusing for me, what with their words with numbers and their numbers that are words.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:12:50


Post by: Scrazza


Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Scrazza wrote:Maths...


Oh man I understand you totally. All those big number-words are too confusing for me, what with their words with numbers and their numbers that are words.


Bah, I'm glad that's over. I have Accountancy after the weekend. Yay.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:29:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


poor soul^^ but if you get the hang of that stuff it will be all downhill from than...^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:40:05


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:poor soul^^ but if you get the hang of that stuff it will be all downhill from than...^^


It will never interest me, so It will always be an uphill battle.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:43:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


use mortars then or flamethrowers then^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:46:00


Post by: Scrazza


I will kill accountancy with flame. KILL IT WITH FLAME!!! *goes into rage mode, headbanging to exodus, watching Wall Of Death video*


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:52:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that vid somehow reminds me of braveheart... some battle there^^


might get complicated if you use fire for accountancy... iirc teachers tend to get by the rule: if i cant read it it is a fault...your fault...not mine... so a black smouldering mess of charred paper where your answers should be readable might spoil your grades a bit...if i am not mistaken...tho i could be enlighted if your teachingb lot in beguim handles matters differently...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:54:41


Post by: Scrazza


Nah, same here. I'll just burn the teacher and watch him do the 'Burny Hop' (It's a kind of dance buring people do )


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/10 20:58:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


but be careful... so that you are not getting invited to dance with him^^ with fire no one can be exact enough... fire tends to spread...hur hur hur^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/12 20:14:46


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:but be careful... so that you are not getting invited to dance with him^^ with fire no one can be exact enough... fire tends to spread...hur hur hur^^


I'll be carefull

Also, I just finished part three of my most recent Short story, featuring the Ousian Riverine. Check it out!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373969.page


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/12 21:21:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


just checked it out^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/15 14:45:28


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:just checked it out^^



also, UPDATE TIME.

I finished another Aslyum Ganger, and started work on the Ousian Sergeant. C&C welcome.

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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/15 16:33:53


Post by: neil101


hey nice stuff , thats a cool ganger, and i thought the cadian was the same pic as mine for a moment lol


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/15 19:28:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


is the sword again nnm? realy convincing looking...

the ganger has three??!!! handguns? well he is the psycho type alright^^, can´t put my finger on from where the look and pose of the mini reminds me...but nevertheless i likes^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/16 16:05:52


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks guys!

@Neil: haha, I looked at your latest models, the lucky sevens (?, If I recall correctly) Ace looking models, and yes, I have spotted the model I think you mean.

@Vik: Yeps, the sword is NMM. I do have to improve a lot. I have to get the colors watered down more, it looks blotchy.

And yeps, three handguns. I don't know from where he's from either, just like more of them, I found him in my bitzbox.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/17 17:51:51


Post by: Scarper


Looking good Scrazza! Really like the colour scheme - bright, but not OTT. And as to the three handguns, he's probs been playing Necromunda: Seems to be rare for a pistol to get all the way through a fight without jamming or blowing up, so he thought ahead and jammed a spare in his shorts!


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/17 17:58:42


Post by: monkeytroll


He's probably got some derringers hidden in his socks and under the bandanna too


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/17 20:52:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/19 21:00:37


Post by: Scrazza


haha, thanks guys.

and yeps, that's probably what the bloke though as well. Just like the old proverb thaught us, One can never have enuff dakka.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/19 21:05:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i say he still needs a groin gun...you can never go wrong with some nice revolvers in your trousers...^^ as long as they are facing outwards that is^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/19 21:12:26


Post by: Scrazza


Well, for those that may remember it. PELVIC THRUSTING FOR THE WIN!

Ahem... Jokes aside, you're completely right Vik.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/19 21:24:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


this is a good and all the more needful insight... keep that in mind and you can never go astray too much.,..^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 12:07:00


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:this is a good and all the more needful insight... keep that in mind and you can never go astray too much.,..^^




Also, I decided which tank I could use for a chimera. The M113. Of course, I'll convert it to 40k standards.

Think something like this for the basic 'weathered and rural look', just like in Vietnam.













Tamiya sells some great kits of the m113, as it was used in Vietnam.








Hope you like.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 12:27:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep m113 is perfect choice i guess for troop transport...box and cheap looking al the way...just the way the imperial army works...have you considered making one of your own from card or plastic? the shape is fairly easy and could save you big time money... i think you mostly will have more than one chimera stand in...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 12:31:35


Post by: Scrazza


I have considered doing it myself, but I do not have cardboard. I can only get my paws on cereal boxes. Wait, we don't eat cereal anymore... Oh well, I do not have cardboard. I don't think it would be very expensive. I expect something between €20.00 and €30.00 for a kit. That would save me money either way, as I'll be not buying the GW chimera. Plus, I doubt I can perfectly build it either way. I've never done such a thing, so I'll wont atempt it with a vital vehicle for my army, as I will likely get around 10 of these tanks.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 12:46:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well, have you look at lord creed´s blog? he made a not to shabby looking chimera...i myself am secretly working on a apc myself too...^^ i think it is doable... my oldest son came home once from school and brought the next following days too always a truckload of heavy cardboard from artist sketchaperblocks... this is the foundation of my current scratchbuilts... and mind you exept for glue it´s totally free...and the card is heavy duty card at that...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 15:25:14


Post by: Scrazza


Yeah, I've seen it. But my scratch build skills aren't that great as his. I Might one day try my hand at scratchbuilding an M113, but only after I built at least one M113 from the kit. I need to know the scaling. I need to know the exact size of the kitted M113, or my scratchbuilt one will be bigger or smaller then the genuine article. I hope you get what I mean.

Thinking, I came up with a potential problem. The top hull mounted multilaser. where should I put that? I was thinking like in this picture.



I could put the multilaser like that. Just like where the 50 call. machine gun is positioned. I could put the hull mounted bolter just where it's located on the chimera model, as there isn't much difference with that.

Thoughts?


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 19:47:47


Post by: LilLoser


Some quality material to base your research on.

I'm a big fan of accumulating images like these. The wider spectrum of images you have, the better the outcome will be.

Can't wait to see what you produce from them.

LilLoser


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:18:46


Post by: Scrazza


LilLoser wrote:Some quality material to base your research on.

I'm a big fan of accumulating images like these. The wider spectrum of images you have, the better the outcome will be.

Can't wait to see what you produce from them.

LilLoser


Can't agree more with you. I've found a few others on the interwebz, but these were the ones worth showing.

Oh, do you have an idea on how I can put the multilaser on? I don't want to add a turret to the tank, because that would ruin the streamlined look the tank already has. Do you think I can just put it on like the 50 Call. machine gun as in that picture of last post?


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:26:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


want to use this thing here?


then herte is the plan:

get rid of the aquilla, shave it off...then cut off the muzzle...and glue it back on turnned 180° ....if you still have accesory bitz form a SM rhino then mount it on a stormbolter lafette...this could work...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:34:17


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:want to use this thing here?


then herte is the plan:

get rid of the aquilla, shave it off...then cut off the muzzle...and glue it back on turnned 180° ....if you still have accesory bitz form a SM rhino then mount it on a stormbolter lafette...this could work...


I thought of this too, but it comes with some problems. Namely, supplies. I only have three of those multilasers. Oh, and I plan to get at least 8 of these tanks, so I'll need a lot of those guns. Ordering from a bitz site could solve my problem, but my parents won't allow me to buy things off the interwebz. Oh snap.

I could just use a modified 50Call. machine gun, but it would be very obvious and I would need to tell every oponent that those are multilasers. Oh double snap.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:44:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well then go for the scratchbuilding of the multilaser...i think someone here on the board (insaniak maybe, or hit_the_spot?) did a selfmade version...or you could make them with q-tips...after all the multilaser is a laser gatling of some sort....


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:47:23


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:well then go for the scratchbuilding of the multilaser...i think someone here on the board (insaniak maybe, or hit_the_spot?) did a selfmade version...or you could make them with q-tips...after all the multilaser is a laser gatling of some sort....


Hmm, a laser gatling.



Idea! Maybe something with three rotating barrels. Ha, got a whole look in my head for the gun now, thanks Vik.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:55:21


Post by: neil101


Viks solution sound the best to me scrazza, using some rods and attacth them to the turret, the mutylaser is quite distinctive , but any multybarrel gun would do the job i reckon.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/20 20:58:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


found that in the gallery...:


sadly i havn´t seen better pic in his gallery...maybe he described it in his threads?


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 09:47:17


Post by: Scrazza


I checked his blog, but there isn't a tutorial to it or something. It looks rather simple though, so I should be able to pull that off. I just need to drop by my local hardware store to get me some of those rods.

For now, I have an update for you guys.

I 'finished' the Ousian Sergeant. Well, I still have to paint the flower on his base, but due to certain circumstances I haven't come around doing that yet.

c&c welcome.

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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 09:52:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the ousian looks very crisp! i like the cloth and the sergant stripes are superb! also the slight hint of camo is very fitting!

howwill you paint that flower? i suggest some pink and red gorey colors...with some teeth like looking thorns^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 09:55:47


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks Vik.

Viktor von Domm wrote: howwill you paint that flower? i suggest some pink and red gorey colors...with some teeth like looking thorns^^


Just like you suggested. Red, witha pink 'tongue' and the thorns will go bleached bone mixed with skull white for highlights. Or something like that.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 10:00:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


as i pictured it^^ make it beautifully ugly^^


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 10:39:02


Post by: Scrazza


Viktor von Domm wrote:as i pictured it^^ make it beautifully ugly^^


I will.

Oh, and I found this picture on the net. I could use the M-41 as a Leman Russ Battle Tank.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Or, I think the m48 is a better choice.





Now that ^ is a cool picture.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 11:12:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thre is an old WWII japanese tank i find more suitable... tho in fact it is german/japanese in design but relates more to the leman russ... while the m48 is more true to the scheme, he would be for my taste be only second choice... the m113 with a heavy gun doenst fit the bill in every sense...lacks certain ring ...so you might get into lots of explaining beforehand...
the chi -ha...




but that might just be me...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 12:42:45


Post by: Scrazza


Hmm, it looks too boxy to me. Note that the m48 is a complete different tank then the M113, and so I won't be converting it out of an M113. I think I can easily get my hands on an M48 Kit.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 12:56:57


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep, do that, more to your scheme anyway, was just a suggestion^^ and vietnam stuff should be fairly easy to buy...


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/21 12:59:25


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks for the suggestion though, I might just buy this tank either way, it looks cool.

Not for my Ousians, though.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/06/23 18:32:23


Post by: hendaron


I aaam baack!!!
Anywayz...

or you could go for this; the russsian k2 tank http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/KW-2_1940.jpg/300px-KW-2_1940.jpg
It scale fits perfectly with a leman russ.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/11 19:42:09


Post by: Scrazza


I think I'll be sticking with American tanks for my Leman Russes, but thanks for the tip. So it's update time again, and This is what I have to show to you. I've gotten some more work done on my Ousians, and I made a small piece of terrain to match my Guard. I also bhought the first of my m113. It's in the basic construction phase now.

C&C welcome.

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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/11 19:47:01


Post by: neil101


nice work so far scrazza , the ousian swamp matches your gaurdsmen very well . the swamp colour is a rather nice turqiose. care to shar the painting process?
good luck converting that m113 mate.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/11 19:50:25


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks Neil!

The painting process of the swamp was a messy one. I just messed around with blues and greens until I came across the desired look. I then went over it with a thin layer of Dark Green Ink (I happened to have a bottle of that, GW don't sell them anymore.) After that, a light drybrush of goblin green with a blue color and then a wash of Thrakka Green mixed with some watered down Chaos Black. Hope that helped.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/16 17:56:33


Post by: Scrazza


UPDATE TIME

work on the Ousian Riverine continues.

To finish the first veteran squad, I will need to assemble one more meltagunner, finnish assembling the APC and then paint the lot of them. Now begins the search and scavenging for the last meltagun trooper.

C&C welcome.

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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/16 18:41:18


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


It's been a while since I've been here. I really like how you are going to use the M113, I always loved those models (have a few of them left from when I was a wee lad painting military models) and the recent (recent for me anyway) size creep w/ all the new stuff has made the M113 a viable model scale-wise for Rhinos and Chimera "counts as" vehicles.

The paint scheme is tight and I really like your use of colors. Everything fits together well and I'm glad to see you're back on this project.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/16 23:31:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


wow, scenery look really good, tho i think it would have been better to use wood rather than cardboard....the edges are a downer for me a bit.... nice idea with the tapetree, tho i think it could do with a layer of some glue or else to make some of the edges covered.... what keeps me glues however to this thread are the great headswaps you do with your minis, always some new ones that look so cool!

cheers, vik


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/16 23:42:12


Post by: mekbadzappa


Nice work on the army dude! Keep it up, love the scenery my commandos would fit perfectly in it.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/17 09:09:07


Post by: Darkvoidof40k


Nice work Scrazz.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/17 09:40:23


Post by: Remos


Subscribed. You got some really epic gak in here!


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/23 15:40:16


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks everybody! I got a new guardsmen on the way, his base is moments from drying, and the result will be posted here. Alas, no further work on the M113.

also, can someone help me decide what to do for an emblem? I don't know what insignia I will put on the right shoulder plate. I'm stumped for ideas, best I can come up with is a dragon or a skull, which are both hard to paint on such a small surface. Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/23 20:47:35


Post by: hendaron


I think I got something lying around. Drew it some years ago..Will see if i can find it.


Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/25 18:14:47


Post by: Scrazza


Thanks Hendaron, I look forward to seeing it, if you can find it.

UPDATE TIME.

C&C welcome.

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Scrazz's hobby blog [updated 25 JULY ] (IMPERIAL GUARD) @ 2011/07/25 20:07:59


Post by: Darkvoidof40k


WIPs. Not much to be happy about yet. -shrug-

Also, a tip from a one-time Guard player: cut off the back-pack slots on the Guardsmen's backs, it makes them look so much nicer. Smooth it down after of course. That is of course unless you're actually putting a Vox, back-pack or fuel tank on their back..