I'm just kidding of course... wouldn't accept it if offered. That's Brian's baby...

However... Big Mek Buzzgob would be delighted to "loot" and borrow it for a game... should we ever be at the same event!

Welcome to the -=]_,=- Brotherhood Brian!

I'm so happy! I'd like to thank the Academy, and my parents who were especially supportive during the "Missile Crisis"...

--B.

Briancj wrote:The suggestion was Ordinatus Falchen. It is based on the Epic 40K scaled Ordinatus Golgotha.

I still have no idea what color I want to paint it. I'm tempted to paint it OMFG Yellow, and give it to some Orks.

Paint it as an Emperor's Fool. Quartered pink and yellow. Aquilum would be proud.

I am a messy, messy kitbasher.

dsteingass wrote:Welcome to the -=]_,=- Brotherhood Brian!

Indeed.

It'd look nice in some hazard stripes.

Maybe paint a sticker on the back, "This IS my other ride."

Briancj wrote:I'm so happy! I'd like to thank the Academy, and my parents who were especially supportive during the "Missile Crisis"...

--B.

welcome... and with a comment like this we are sure you indeed are a teammember now... only us lunatics respond like this

Briancj wrote:I am a messy, messy kitbasher.

only on weekends though

Gitsplitta wrote:I'm just kidding of course... wouldn't accept it if offered. That's Brian's baby...

However... Big Mek Buzzgob would be delighted to "loot" and borrow it for a game... should we ever be at the same event!

The nice thing about him building an Ordinatus is that he can actually fire it from his house to land on any board in North America. I'm not sure you saw the missile stats

Range: 12" - North America

Technically the Fachen Missile Launcher is always in play, just shoot me a text when the missile is headed towards my board.

THAT would be hilarious.

Text: Incoming Falchen Missile. Please use your cameraphone to take a picture of your game's table.

I will make an ice crater that works on my board and it will be done! Next apocalypse game the Fachen Missile Launcher is in!

Awesomesauce...

You need to have a video link on Skype.

Prove that it exists and roll for scatter. Judging by the distance... 2d6 states?

so bloooody epic!

Covered in awesome sauce.

I can not, and I really mean CAN NOT wait to see it painted up.

Go go go!!!

D

evildrcheese wrote:Covered in awesome sauce.

I can not, and I really mean CAN NOT wait to see it painted up.

Go go go!!!

D

Great, can you paint it FOR me? Thanks!

Briancj wrote:Great, can you paint it FOR me? Thanks!

I don't think I can do it justice in all honesty, besides it probably wouldn't survive the transit! That's my excuse and I'm standing by it.

What can we expect next?

D

evildrcheese wrote:

Briancj wrote:Great, can you paint it FOR me? Thanks!

I don't think I can do it justice in all honesty, besides it probably wouldn't survive the transit! That's my excuse and I'm standing by it.

What can we expect next?

D

EXCUSES!

Yanno, that's a very good question. I'm still undecided on a paint job, but I'll be able to prime it anyways.

Aside from the Ordinatus, I'm going to try and finish projects that have been sitting in my pile, as well as clear off a ton of sprues that need to be clipped. I also have to finish mailing off various THINGS to PEOPLE. Things. To people.

--B.

This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer.

Nice. I like the green rockets.

wooo primer! green rockets are a nice touch now paint it red

It's not red enough.... red ones go fasta.

Looking awesome. With your new burst of energy this will get done in no time!

Thats looking very cool indeed.

Great Marine Swap, Whalemusic360 and I agreed to swap Land Raiders. Here's what I'm sending him.








--B.

It's been a while since I have been here. That Land Raider is really well done. And again makes me froth at the mouth waiting for 5th Ed to die off. (insert long rant about how much it annoys me that CSM maintain Astartes-like adherence to the stock weapons for vehicles but Imperial Space Marines make up all sorts of stuff like Hurricane batteries, etc.)

Very nice looking model.

Thanks!

And, as for Chaos, I agree. But, hey, CSM are getting some giant dragon-melta-plated-flying-thingy!

Excellent job Brian.... NOW GET TO WORK ON THAT FACHEN MISSILE LAUNCHER !!!

That's a heck of a swap! Very nice work, Brian. What's the freehand design on the sides?

A terrible attempt at an angel on the right-side, and a wing on the left.

Don't be so hard on yourself man, it's great work looking most impressive.

Yeah.. I liked it. like it was painted by the troops not some techmech artist.. I got the refrences right away. very nioce personal touch.

SL

That LR needs more Las!

Looks great though.

D

Briancj wrote:A terrible attempt at an angel on the right-side, and a wing on the left.

Not at all. It's just that all the lascanons are in the way...

Nothing to report, really. Wedding this weekend, campout next weekend, so probably not a lot of progress, unless I manage to get some work done during the week.

I did, however, manage an epic sprue-clipping session, took down the megabitz bag, a bunch of other sprues. Not really sure how I keep ending up with mariine tac quad sprues. It is like the 'free pen' giveaway of the GW universe, I swear.

Sigh.

I have three or four more boxes of random bitz to deal with, as well as a pile of "Vehicle" sprues that I've been cannibalizing for the Ordinatus project. Lots of leftover superheavy stuff, as well as some Chimera and Rhino chassii. That'll be clipped and shoved into a box for terrain and/or 6th edition work.

A paper napkin calculation on what it'll take to revive the Valks tells me that I'll be spending about $30. So, $70 for three Valks. I can handle that.

I have some wings coming in to finish my Tau Air Caste Devilfish/Skyray conversion, so I'm going to finish my Earth Caste Hammerhead, and the Devilfish, along with rusting and decaling the Deathstrike. This will clear the decks for practicing with the Airbrush Galorn lent me, so I can attack the Ordinatus properly.

After the Ordinatus, I expect to sink stupid cash on 6th edition, so I can get the rules (hurry up, ebay sellers, so we can get whatever 6th ed mini rulebooks get put out). Then, it'll be AIR FORCE TIME, since I will have 4 Valk/Vend, 2 Stormravens, 2 Stormtalons, and 3 Ork Jets. Note: I'm dumping my Necrons, so did not pruchase any Necron flyers.

Now that I've got things sorted, I expect to do some heavy eBay work to balance out/focus my desires vis a vis 40K. I find myself shifting to a "Skirmish" mindset, and definitely planted in the CASUAL side of the main 40K hobby. With the prices increases across the board, I'll be salvaging everything I currently own before considering any new purchases...and new purchases will be done through eBay and/or sellers that can provide me with a minimum 25% discount.

My next major equipment purchase will be a large ultrasonic cleaner, so I can go through a pile of 2nd edition stuff, get it cleaned up, and resold on eBay or used as terrain.

And that's the state of the Brian.

You looking to offload any of your superheavy bitz? I might be interested.

What's up with 6th edition? I was told that GW would have it out BEFORE Games Day US, but White Dwarf hasn't even had a hint about it?

Dave, 6th ed is incoming end of this month...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nef_5gNkGfM&feature=player_embedded

While I was waiting for my GF to get her act together, I finished my Deathstrike Missile Launcher.







Enjoy!

--B

ok, so how the hell is there no mention of it in the June WD?


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That's a big-ass missle you've goot there Brian! Can you please take a close-up of your searchlight lens?


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no...that cannot be the release date- That must be the day it is announced (white dwarf day). It just doesn't fit into GW's pre-release gig.

I agree, the announcement date has to be 06/23, there's no way they would drop such a massive bomb from orbit w/o a million advance emails, WD articles, Newletter updates, and of course their own website.

*gnashes teeth*

Also... dude WOW that is one impressive model! APOC 2012 needs to happen.

dsteingass wrote:ok, so how the hell is there no mention of it in the June WD?
no...that cannot be the release date- That must be the day it is announced (white dwarf day). It just doesn't fit into GW's pre-release gig.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I agree, the announcement date has to be 06/23, there's no way they would drop such a massive bomb from orbit w/o a million advance emails, WD articles, Newletter updates, and of course their own website.

*gnashes teeth*

I don't know, but I was in the shop last week and one of the staffers was hinting pretty seriously. They allready aren't allowed to sell any more of the old rulebook. That doesn't mesh with the GW "milk them for all they've got" policy unless the new edition is right around the corner...

GW no longer does pre release stuff. Thier policy is now total silence.

Briancj wrote:GW no longer does pre release stuff. Thier policy is now total silence.

^QFT, this is a bigger money spinner than stringing us along for months on end with snippets that they leak but say they don't leak...

anywho, 6th ed. is the summer release... any later than the end of June and they will be losing out on the holiday money rush they always without fail have.

Brian- you have RogueWolves' defaced catpirate -=]_,=- Banner

What's with the preponderance of giant missiles recently?

Feel the need to compensate for something?



Deathstrike looks great, nice to see some more IG stuff

I certainly have rocket envy. I defy anyone to think otherwise. Love that death strike mate, it looks as properly ott as the original epic one (sometime I must make one of those over sized shark missiles!)

dsteingass wrote:Brian- you have RogueWolves' defaced catpirate -=]_,=- Banner

I know. I was waiting for someone to notice.

RandyMcStab wrote:What's with the preponderance of giant missiles recently?

Feel the need to compensate for something?



Deathstrike looks great, nice to see some more IG stuff

Yes. I am compensating for the GK and Necron codexes....

inmygravenimage wrote:I certainly have rocket envy. I defy anyone to think otherwise. Love that death strike mate, it looks as properly ott as the original epic one (sometime I must make one of those over sized shark missiles!)

I based it on the original Epic scale deathsstrike.

Briancj wrote:
Yes. I am compensating for the GK and Necron codexes....

dsteingass wrote:Brian- you have RogueWolves' defaced catpirate -=]_,=- Banner

the infection spreads!!!! brian is now a member of the catpirate club nice initiative!

Not much painting progress made, but a lot of ORGANIZATIONAL progress made.

I have clipped off a MASSIVE amount of sprue. All of my vehicle, terrain, and other bitz are clipped, save for a handful of sprues which will probably be eBay bait (an example: a ton of Dark Angels bitz).

I have gone from sprues stacked all over the place to one box, containing boxes holding bitz, which are labelled. And I've started filling up my new storage bin, which needs to be labelled. Finally, I'm starting my eBay pile.

I have a metric ton of Dark Angels stuff, some of which is painted. Poorly. I think I need to pivot around an axis, and get all of that DA stuff in shape for eBay. I have all the special characters, etc. If I do a stripping run, I'll be ready for the 6th Ed codex and starter set, which features DA. Since my Marine Codex is Minotaurs, I don't intend to re-start a DA army.

Anyways, these are the thoughts in my head.

--B.

PS: I need one of those electric garden chippers, so I can BRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWW through these massive piles of sprues I want to turn into sprue bricks.

I have gone from sprues stacked all over the place to one box, containing boxes holding bitz, which are labelled. And I've started filling up my new storage bin, which needs to be labelled

Well done, I've been putting off doing this for months.

I need one of those electric garden chippers, so I can BRRRRAAAWWWWWWWWW through these massive piles of sprues I want to turn into sprue bricks.

I've heard meat grinders or blenders work for this, ever tried it? I don't want to kill my blender or my hands but rubble sprue bricks is a really good idea.

I'm seriously thinking of picking up a second-hand blender, and giving it a...whirl.

Let me know how that goes. That could be neat.

IRONY:

Google Image Searching for some reference images for a project...

...only to come up with images belonging to YOU.

Sigh.

--B.

Ref: "Valkyrie Landing Gear"
Ref: "Ordinatus Golgotha"

Hahahaha, that should be a measure of pride surely!

Not particularly helpful when youve hit a wall in terms of inspiration though i agree

Force yourself to cut something, glue something, or pick up a brush..the rest will follow.

I'm not stuck, but thanks!

So, let's talk about plastic canopies. Most people paint them over, because they don't want to paint the interior details, and pilots. I, as you may be aware, am not that kind of people.

So, when you deal with canopies, let's talk some basics:

1) Clear plastic will "craze" if you even look at it the wrong way. Craze is the term for when clear plastic fogs up.
2) Do not use plastic cement or crazy glue! Both of these will screw up your canopies. Just don't.
3) Do not buy special "Canopy Adhesive". Just don't. Use good old "white" PVA glue. Use it sparingly, apply it with a toothpick.
4) Keep your fingers clean. Residue of plastic or CA cement will craze your canopies, and leave an ugly copy of your fingerprint.

So, with that out of the way, how DO you recover a lost canopy?

Well, you need the following: fine grit sandpaper, ultra fine grit sandpaper, and gloss varnish.

First, a shot of two canopies. One is a 'before', one is 'after'. Yes, the first canopy was also covered in white spray paint AND had the canopy frames. I carefully removed the canopy frames off with a sharp chisel blade. Where the canopy was glued to the frame, I'm not worried about, because I'm gluing the frame back on!



Second is a shot of the canopy after I've sanded it down. Note the two kids of sandpaper, here. the ultrafine grit sandpaper feels like a slightly rough sheet of paper.



Note that it still looks frosted. That's because the plastic is still rough, and there's microscopic scratches everywhere.

The next step is to apply BRUSH-ON gloss varnish. Water it down a smidge, and use a VERY clean paint and VERY clean water. Brush it on and let it dry. Do not let the varnish pool, use a very clean brush to remove excess gloss varnish.



REMEMBER:

Spray varnish kills plastic canopies! Do NOT attach your canopies to the model, except as the VERY LAST STEP. Note to Eldar Players: Yes, this means you have to build your tanks out of order of the instructions. Sorry. Apply matte finish to your models, THEN assemble the cockpit.canopy area, and mate the upper and lower hulls.

Good luck!

Nice Tut Brian!! Great results!!

OR... you can just paint the canopies & give the panes a nice gradient... simple, effective, visually stunning.

Gitsplitta wrote:OR... you can just paint the canopies & give the panes a nice gradient... simple, effective, visually stunning.

Cop.

Out.






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And here's some in-progress shots of Salvage Valk #1.

Top, bottom of the original.





Top of the pops, now with tin bitz on the engines and a basecoast of Necron Abyss. Great stuff these foundation paints. Too bad they totally redid their line...AGAIN.



The salvaged Canopies came off of this beast, and will return to it.

--B.

Not at all, it's an intelligent and elegant alternative to having to paint all the stupid crap in the cockpit.

Gitsplitta wrote:Not at all, it's an intelligent and elegant alternative to having to paint all the stupid crap in the cockpit.

It amuses me that you lavish massive attention on ork bitz and bobs, tank commanders, and other details...

But interior details like a cockpit you find distasteful?

Well... perhaps if it was called a beaverden rather than a cockpit... it might have more attraction for me!

^ somewhat risqué there mr gits!
...
I approve

OT, great tut Briancj; I'm on the fence, but do tend to paint interiors also. My Valk is the one place I may deviate from this, as I found it a beast to assemble and so it's slightly off-kilter inside.

There's a place in leeds called the Cockpit... and its nothing like the one in waynes world 2 either (thankfully)

Congrads on the re-org you're going through. It's a liberating feeling for sure.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Congrads on the re-org you're going through. It's a liberating feeling for sure.

Who Sir? me Sir?

He DOES have a point, you can hardly ever actually SEE the cockpit details after the canopy is on anyways. It reminds me of painting car model kits when I was a kid..spend all that time painting the speedo and radio dials with a toothpick and enamel paints, and then you can't see it after the hardtop was on. I was the only person in the whole world who knew that detail was there...I dunno, it's just a sense of completion thing or something.

@ AnUnearthlyChilde- That was for Brian said he's been snipping sprue and consolidating his stuff.


@ dstein- I've always "buttoned up" my models (Rhinos, Land Raiders, etc) for 2 reasons- no one would ever see all the fiddly detail I put in, and it also allowed me to gut any bitz that could be better used on something else instead of sitting in encapsulated dankness forever.

*I* know it is there.

No, in all seriousness, I understand. I mean, really, I think most folks should just paint the canopies and be done with it.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote: it also allowed me to gut any bitz that could be better used on something else instead of sitting in encapsulated dankness forever.

This is why i do it. So many cool bitz!

I'm with you on this one Brian. I paint the inside of transport vehicles as well. I know you go even further than that most of the time.

Tamato, Tomoto.

Personal choice.. I Paint mine cause they are there. However Git is right, it is an alternitive. My problem is that most painted cockpits are not done very well.

In honest, I think more people should just paint their models. I have an adversion to playing a unpainted army. I mean how hard is it to get a few colors on it . ( Ok I may be proven wrong by the pictures of the original Valks Brian is fixing up. )

Like the dark colors on the Valk. bty

SL

Playing with or against unpainted models is against my personal standards. It's nothing more than laziness IMHO.

personally i like playing against painted models but as long it isnt grey plastic primer is ok by me

I dont like playing against unpainted models, but who am i to say how people should enjoy their hobby? As long as theyre not a douche when i play them, a fun game is all i care about

To me it's a personal pride thing. If I see guys duking it out with grey plastic armies, honestly I shake my head a little bit.

Yey, more people who paint the insides of vehicles, cockpits, pilots etc etc.

I felt so alone, now my cause feels galvanised!

HUZZAH!

Whilst I agree that it's a good feeling to know the inside is paint, I also like to think it's doing the sculpt justice. You know, since the designer could be bothered to make the interiors for us to look at to help create the illusion I feel it's only right to paint it up.

Besides, it helps spin out the 'hobby time', and therefore also a money-saving tip (if you make yourself stop purchasing while things are WIPing).

D

^ agreed, its the same reason i havent fully glued my steamtank, the inside is too beautiful to leave, even if you arnt ever going to see it

Briancj wrote:*I* know it is there.

Actually, I understand this point of view completely... much of the stuff I do that's really neat and anal is just for my consumption.

So, a quick personal note. I hate it when toys aren't played with. This may be sappy, but being able to salvage 'junk' and bring it back to the tabletop gives me a deep feeling of satisfaction, both as an adult, and my inner child. Pew. Pew. Pew*.

The 10th Rapid Response Squadron, those Imperial Navy pilots known as the "Diamond Dogs", have long been one of the Navy's premiere acrobatic teams. Going from world to world, being the posterboys for the Imperial Navy, this was their life. And then, they were assigned to the ill-fated Magos expedition, and lost in the warp.

Now, they have to be real wingmen, fighting for their lives in the skies and stars.





Callsign "Harridan"



V-Flight Four, Lt. Petrus and Ensign Galander. Wingmen to V-Flight Eight, Lt. Finalus and Ensign Hariso.



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And a quick Before and After, for giggles:




Please note, the paint jobs on these are supposed to be crisp and clean. They're the equivalent of the Blue Angels. Only a little bump-and-grind will be applied to these. Plus, and three of them will be salvage ops, I do not want to derail my progress on catching up train.

*Yes, I flew around the house with both of these, going, NNRNNRRNEERRROOWWWWWW DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA.

Ah, breathing life into junk is a laudable passtime. Well done my friend!

Brian wrote:"call sign Harridan"

thats gotta get confusing during a Tyranid invasion

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

Brian wrote:"call sign Harridan"

thats gotta get confusing during a Tyranid invasion

Oddly, it is fluff. 'nids wiped out Ryza, and the good El-Tee is a monster-hunter. Thus, "Harridan".

The blue and gold scheme is really striking (even if it is UofM colors )

dsteingass wrote:The blue and gold scheme is really striking (even if it is UofM colors )

I'm sorry, should the next two be in Hunter Green and White?

Wow, nice salvage job !

Briancj wrote:

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

Brian wrote:"call sign Harridan"

thats gotta get confusing during a Tyranid invasion

Oddly, it is fluff. 'nids wiped out Ryza, and the good El-Tee is a monster-hunter. Thus, "Harridan".

Lols fair enough

great job salvaging those!

Huge turn around

I missed the "salvage job" part. Even more impressed now. I really enjoyed saving Imperial vehicles on eBay and converting them to serve in the Long War. Your modeling skills are excellent.

Briancj wrote:
I'm sorry, should the next two be in Hunter Green and White?

No Sir!
Scarlet and Grey Sir!

dsteingass wrote:

Briancj wrote:
I'm sorry, should the next two be in Hunter Green and White?

No Sir!
Scarlet and Grey Sir!

Hear hear!

Nice work all around Briancj!

Ordinatus is damned impressive (makes me want one!), and I demand datasheets! (unless of course Ive missed them hahaha)

Also.... its awesome to see old models get new life. I know first hand how much of a pain it can be to fix someone else's (or even my own ) mistakes. too much glue here, not enough there, too much paint, no primer, crazed plastics.... Though I might have it slightly easier than you, as orks can cover up unsightly errors with more rivets or plates!

Great work! And Im looking forward to seeing the rest of your work!

Ramos Asura wrote:.....[I might have it slightly easier than you, as orks can cover up unsightly errors with more rivets....

YES! ^^ THis ^^

Briancj wrote:So, a quick personal note. I hate it when toys aren't played with. This may be sappy, but being able to salvage 'junk' and bring it back to the tabletop gives me a deep feeling of satisfaction, both as an adult, and my inner child. Pew. Pew. Pew*.

I must admit, the first time I built a Valk, I may or may not have "flown" it around my house

The before and after photos are striking! Very nice job reviving the Valk, Brian.

Rogue Wolves wrote:

Briancj wrote:So, a quick personal note. I hate it when toys aren't played with. This may be sappy, but being able to salvage 'junk' and bring it back to the tabletop gives me a deep feeling of satisfaction, both as an adult, and my inner child. Pew. Pew. Pew*.

I must admit, the first time I built a Valk, I may or may not have "flown" it around my house

Not gonna lie, I have done it with both my Valks. I just am sad I don't have a 3rd arm so I can play with all 3 at once.

well that is indeed a impressive modal you have made there, well done.
i think it will look awesome when it is painted looking forwerd to it ^^

sparkywtf wrote:

Rogue Wolves wrote:

Briancj wrote:So, a quick personal note. I hate it when toys aren't played with. This may be sappy, but being able to salvage 'junk' and bring it back to the tabletop gives me a deep feeling of satisfaction, both as an adult, and my inner child. Pew. Pew. Pew*.

I must admit, the first time I built a Valk, I may or may not have "flown" it around my house

Not gonna lie, I have done it with both my Valks. I just am sad I don't have a 3rd arm so I can play with all 3 at once.

Ive heard of people doing this with the new ork fighta kit.... Not that I would know....*ahem*

Rogue Wolves wrote:

Briancj wrote:So, a quick personal note. I hate it when toys aren't played with. This may be sappy, but being able to salvage 'junk' and bring it back to the tabletop gives me a deep feeling of satisfaction, both as an adult, and my inner child. Pew. Pew. Pew*.

I must admit, the first time I built a Valk, I may or may not have "flown" it around my house

Dude, totally... I sit about with new Nids going "om nom nom nom nom nom" somewhat akin to Alan Tudyk in Firefly with the dinosaurs

DUDE! when i was a wee littly boy, we used to walk the train tracks out in the woods of PA, and on the only day i remember, we saw a Military Plane fly by, and a homless camp (with no one there), there were tables, dressers, and a dinosaur toy with woody (toy story) on top! man that was awsome

Superb job on the Valks.

That Valk needs "Lazarus" on it somewhere...

Ok, I'll add to this.

When I completed my Possessed Death Guard Land Raider I pushed it around my desk making engine noises like "Braaawwww...(clutch shift)...brraaaawwww" and when it came into contact w/ some IG PDF models I had on the desk the Land Raider roared "RRAAAGGHHH" and then "OHHMMMMM NOM NOM!" (think 'cookie monster') as it started chewing on the IG who were screaming "AAaaaahhh!!! AAaauuuuggghhhh!" (think Sam Kinison)

My wife asked me what I was doing. I said "modeling" and went back to feeding IG to my Land Raider, albeit more quietly.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Ok, I'll add to this.

When I completed my Possessed Death Guard Land Raider I pushed it around my desk making engine noises like "Braaawwww...(clutch shift)...brraaaawwww" and when it came into contact w/ some IG PDF models I had on the desk the Land Raider roared "RRAAAGGHHH" and then "OHHMMMMM NOM NOM!" (think 'cookie monster') as it started chewing on the IG who were screaming "AAaaaahhh!!! AAaauuuuggghhhh!" (think Sam Kinison)

My wife asked me what I was doing. I said "modeling" and went back to feeding IG to my Land Raider, albeit more quietly.

If I had room in my Sig for this... it'd have been there already... dude, you are a legend!!!

Skalk is the most siggable person on dakka...

Define squiggable! for those of us ( me ) who have been hit to many times in the head

Oh and skalk . Nom nom nom nom nom nom nom... too funny - found myself walking down the hall at work saying that.

Back on topic. Brian... since your a big IG player can you show a army shot. I look forward to be amazed! Curious to see all the stuff you have been collecting.


SL

Ask and thou shalt receive. All pics are zoomable in the gallery.

Group shot:



Artillery and Ordinatus:



Men and Imperial Navy:



Mechanized Forces:



I also have about 20-30 more mans, special characters, and whatnot, 20 more Praetorian Rough Riders to build, and three more Chimera Hulls.

Awesome Brian, simply awesome


btw... On that logic, If I ask for a million pounds, would you give me it?

stunning force there mr brian. just decided to pop in and actually comment on the things that are happening.

the valk looks sleek and too clean for frontline work but i liked the back story you gave it.

any hoo good lookin

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Awesome Brian, simply awesome


btw... On that logic, If I ask for a million pounds, would you give me it?

As the song says...

"Yes...in a minute."

Lmfao...

Briancj wrote:

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:

Brian wrote:"call sign Harridan"

thats gotta get confusing during a Tyranid invasion

Oddly, it is fluff. 'nids wiped out Ryza, and the good El-Tee is a monster-hunter. Thus, "Harridan".

No Ice Man, Goose, Maverick??

In you Mech shot what is the tank in the center front?
Baneblade andf variants? looks smaller than iI thought

also on the right is a chimera mantacore with artillery parts to swap out?

Some great stuff in this thread, which has attracted a massive amount of attention - now including mine.

Subbed and I agree Valks are too clean

TSD

Solar_lion wrote:In you Mech shot what is the tank in the center front?
Baneblade andf variants? looks smaller than iI thought

also on the right is a chimera mantacore with artillery parts to swap out?

Center tank is a stretched Leman Russ, you can look earlier in the thread to see how I constructed it. Pimp my Russ, baby. And, yes, I've started building my Artillery Chassis to be swappable. The chimera is good like that, if you do not glue on the back deck/roof piece. Stuff can slide right in and out.

thesupplydrop wrote:Some great stuff in this thread, which has attracted a massive amount of attention - now including mine.

Subbed and I agree Valks are too clean

TSD

Everyone thinks my Valks are too clean, but I point at pictures of the Blue Angels, and say "THAT" is what I'm going for.

Ah the Blue Angels yes!! Now I see it...

Almost as good as our Red Arrows huh?

TSD

Nothing beats our Red Arrows display team

I was (and still am) seriously considering painting SOMEthing in Red Arrows colors. They're the dog's bollocks! I also want to paint some "Rescue" valks in US Cost Guard colors. This may still happen. Eventually, I want to be able to field an entire Apocalypse-level Imperial Navy Air Force.

IN OTHER NEWS.

I just spent an absurdedly stupid amount of money on a Rivarossi Allegheny 2-6-6-6, with full DCC and Sound. I suspect only one, maybe two people understand what that is. This note is for them.

--B.

You bought a Train? O_o


is it going to be an ork train?

Nice stuff man! you should have said something earlier!

Hey I can be number 2!

I thought about trains for awhile, but too expensive and space taking for me right now. I would love to make a modern layout though.

And rescue valks would be awesome to see.

No. My other hobby is Model Railroading. It is OO scale, for you horrific Brits.

Briancj, you live in the state of Defiance Games!

I, in fact, regularly go to the Hobby Bunker, in Malden, which is a few blocks away from the former Wargames Factory now Defiance Games!

Briancj wrote:I, in fact, regularly go to the Hobby Bunker, in Malden, which is a few blocks away from the former Wargames Factory now Defiance Games!

Well, I now have new Infantry from them!

Hey, without us "horrific brits" you lot wouldn't even have locamotives or a country (joke, well the country bit is a joke, and the locomotive bit is true )

Yes, true about the steam locomotives. But damn, so many of Britains' bad boys came here to start up.

mmm DCC! -is it pre-loaded with sound? Or can you add your own sonds to it?

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Hey, without us "horrific brits" you lot wouldn't even have locamotives or a country (joke, well the country bit is a joke, and the locomotive bit is true )

We would also not have steamships, dreadnoughts, or proper fish and chips. So many things to be grateful for!


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Or umbrellas. Or Fig newtons. Or Top Gear. Or a reason to say "Well, the French helped us win one war..."

I also broke down and put the base 6th edition rulebook on preorder at my FLGS. Sigh. But I ain't shelling out for the stupid collector or gamer's edition CRAP.

Not even for the awesome lasgun power cell box?

I am wondering if those things would fit properly in my airsofting tactical vest...

Briancj wrote:

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Hey, without us "horrific brits" you lot wouldn't even have locamotives or a country (joke, well the country bit is a joke, and the locomotive bit is true )

We would also not have steamships, dreadnoughts, or proper fish and chips. So many things to be grateful for!

You have dreadnoughts

Nice looking guard army Brian

That looks like one huge train.

Flinty wrote:Not even for the awesome lasgun power cell box?

I am wondering if those things would fit properly in my airsofting tactical vest...

What? box? You've seen this?

Brian... click it... click it now

OMG... http://www.spaceparanoidsonline.com/

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Brian... click it... click it now

OMG... http://www.spaceparanoidsonline.com/

I know.

But allow me to one-up you.

http://www.roguesynapse.com/games/last_starfighter/Starfighter.exe

O_O Oh crap... Old I feel now, mmmmm?!

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote: mmmmm?!

This made me think of a Skeksis

dsteingass wrote:

Flinty wrote:Not even for the awesome lasgun power cell box?

I am wondering if those things would fit properly in my airsofting tactical vest...

What? box? You've seen this?

http://imgur.com/a/Fbh2R

I think the actual WD is out now, so it might not be a real surprise, but GW seems to be selling some of their random assorted items in lasgun power cell tins.

Army looks great man, I love the conversion posted on the first page!

Just the dice come in the tin power cell

That is an incredibly impressive display of force. I'm not a huge IG fan (philosophical differences) but man you've got a great army.

That's a huge army!

Thanks for all the kind words! My army isn't nearly as large as my previous IG army, which had grown to about 120 men, 32 rough riders, two Baneblades, and about 20 Chimera and Russ-hulled variants.


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So, here's Salvage Valk #2. Thanks to the successful salvage of the canopies from #1, and a pair of canopies from poda_t, I should be set on canopies for the entire project!

This Valk is in fairly good shape. Missing the rear ramp, rear landing gear (worst part on the valk is the rear landing gear, shears off if you look at it wrong), a side-door, one engine intake, and the pilot and gunner have lost their heads. Otherwise, it is a good Valk. The original owner did an okay paint job, edged all the panel lines, painted the cockpit, etc.



I'm going to repaint the pilots, give them their heads back, and that'll be that. I've already salvaged parts from the bitz box, and the remaining Salvage Valk. I'm going to try and build a replacement tail and the 'elevator' wing between the booms, before going to eBay and buy bitz. If I can manage this, then I can move to painting this Valk immediately.

This Valk is going to be a 'rescue' craft, since I've always wanted to paint THIS scheme:



We'll see how it goes, I have a selection of Tamiya painting tape coming to me in the next couple of days.




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A little more work needs to be done, some edging and some 'nega-rivet' drilling, but the new tailplanes are IN PLACE.

Any rescue divers?

Nice repair job on that Valk.

I like the red and white paint scheme, my initial thought was barbershop pole though: *)

Can't wait to see it painted up.

D

Miss Dee wrote:Any rescue divers?

I would have to do a major disassembly job to get at the interior, so probably no divers/equipment on this one, alas.


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I have purchased the bitz required to salvage the last Valk to full flight status from Imperial Armoury. They're in the UK, so it'll take awhile to get here, but that's okay. Total cost for all three Valks is now at a little under $70, and I'm happy with that number.

Hopefully, the bitz to finish the last of my Tau projects will be here soon, so I can finish them and paint them and throw them up for sale. Time to move my old Dark Angels collection to eBay as well.




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I had forgotten how much I hate painting red.



Cockpit glass and frames thoughtfully provided by poda_t for an absolutely reasonable price. I had to replace one section of the glass thanks to an overly aggressive postal service. Cockpit glass in place temporarily for the shot.

Hi, kids! Miss me? Forget who I am? That's okay. Dakka is fickle.

Have a Rescue Valk! I'm at the point where all the main colors have been laid down, layered, re-layered, and OMFG I HATE PAINTING RED AND WHITE WHY DID I DO THIS TO MYSELF?!

Here's some in-progress pictures, so you can see the layers going down.




And here's the primary painting complete. Next up, putting dark back into the recesses, chipping it up, and applying decals. A bit of work needed on the interior cockpit details.









The first person to say that it looks like a Poke'ball gets my foot up their

Actually it looks like a rescue plane. You should put a big white cross on the wings and fuesellage (sp).

i agree its a reseque plane

Now my candystriper IG have a ride

I kid, it's looking good!

It looks great! Man I swear, the new Citadel base white covers red in one coat!

dsteingass wrote:It looks great! Man I swear, the new Citadel base white covers red in one coat!

Yeah, I wish I had some of that. Or more foundation. Oh well!

Thanks for the kind words, folks. I'm going to fly WM360's candy stripers to the hospital.

It looks really great! And i feel for you.. red and white is a real pain in the a** to paint

you're doing a great job with the valks! i just got a shadowsword home and god damn! trust me, The guy who put that one together must have got really really high! wth, he must have been high before he even started! There's like 4 bottles of superglue on it and the parts are all put on backwards and upside down and gak.. i can say that it's almost beyond salvageable.

gotta save em all?

It CAN be salvaged..you have the technology...

alabamaheretic wrote:gotta save em all?

My boot. Your








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This, right here, is what I think Nids should look like. *A*L*I*E*N*

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Nard%27s_Nid%27s

Briancj wrote:

alabamaheretic wrote:gotta save em all?

My boot. Your








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This, right here, is what I think Nids should look like. *A*L*I*E*N*

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Nard%27s_Nid%27s

Those almost look cel shaded... Nice. they hurt my eyes..., but nice.

yea but it was too good to resist there mr brian

That pattern looks cool on the Valkyrie

the valk looks nice in that color!

I was gonna say candy cane.....


xD


Rescue valk is awesome. I can understand hating white but why hate red? its one of the best colors to highlight!

In any case....

Keep up the good work!

alabamaheretic wrote:gotta save em all?

Ramos Asura wrote:I was gonna say candy cane.....


xD


Rescue valk is awesome. I can understand hating white but why hate red? its one of the best colors to highlight!

In any case....

Keep up the good work!

alabamaheretic wrote:gotta save em all?

even coverage is a pain with red.

Getting a solid foundation down of White, Red, or Yellow, on large flat surfaces, is a paint in the .

The red you're seeing took two layers of "Red Gore" followed by four to six layers of "Blood Red". Very, very time consuming.

Ahhhh I getcha. I getcha xD
Well in any case the final result looks great!

That totally looks like a medevac ship. Really good colors, clean and tight lines... that's a really good paint job. Staggering that it is a salvage from someone elses nightmare. Well done!

I'm telling you guys..butcha don't believe me..the new base white..one coat, I guarantee it! I have proof!

I believe you, Dave, but the paints I have are...the paints I have.

I believe you as well, I just have nowhere to buy them aside form a long drive or online.

I swear my kind has that toy... No, wait its just an awesome paintjob. Cracking stuff mate

If you put a great big red cross on it do you think chaos would stop shooting at it...? Can just see a load of chaos space marines now... Hold your fire abaddon, it's the medi-vac. He's in a bad way, lets give em room lads, give em room! Ha!

Great start on this so far.

TSD

yes they would let it pass

*secretly chaos corrupt medivac

Well...

It *IS* red.

Blood for the blood god?

RED WUNZ GO FASTA.

Samm-Hain?

See? It'll get past EVERYONE.

Briancj wrote:Well...

It *IS* red.

Blood for the blood god?

RED WUNZ GO FASTA.

Samm-Hain?

See? It'll get past EVERYONE.

Zoom zoom..

I have weathered and decal'd the ship. Pics tomorrow, when I have better light.

Two salvage Valks down...one to go. What shall I do with this last one? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

put nose art on it

^ Yeah. How about Enola Gay?

I was considering it. However, it brings up YET ANOTHER THING I hate about Valks.

One side of the valk is perfect for nose art. Flat, open panelling.

The other side is ruined by the stupid moulded-on 'steps'.

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I know, you're QUIVERING with excitement.







Enjoy. I need a stiff drink, and someone to paint the rest of my miniatures for me.

I removed the "stepes" on my valk and pinted a dragonhead on each side. worked really well

Also, That rescue valk looks so awesome! great job there!

And for the last valk, Why don't you paint wings on the wings?
and then paint a head or something on the nose? like an eagle or dragon or something else that flies.. Maybe a butterfly?

HELL YEAH!! Paint a butterfly on it! just for the giggles?

I have 6th edition.

Oh. My. God.

God damnit, i sometimes wonder why i ever bother with pre-ordering GW stuff.

LOLS Vit

I have the psychic cards, picked em up today... their cool little box though is gak and flimsy... que me making a new one out of plasticard to replace it....

Briancj wrote:I have 6th edition.

Oh. My. God.

Good "Oh. My. God." or bad "Oh. My. God."? I want to know reactions before I waste my precious resources on the thing...

Monkey, are you a casual player, hardcore tourney player, in between?

The Valk looks badass Brian! Well done on the paintjob!!

Monkey..resistance is futile...Really though, it's a lot of win so far IMHO, and I'm a very casual player.

I am disturbingly pleased with my Rescue Valk. I need an Imperial Navy Launch Bay Diorama.

Medics on stand by ?

diorama??? I think you should build the whole Medicae ship to go around it!

dsteingass wrote:diorama??? I think you should build the whole Medicae ship to go around it!

Seconed.

Very casual player. Very casual, like, go months between games and when I do play at all frequently skit by on roughly knowing most rules...
This all said, I will be highly interested when DA come out.

Then you'll love 6th edition, Monkey. Go buy it.


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Miss Dee wrote:

dsteingass wrote:diorama??? I think you should build the whole Medicae ship to go around it!

Seconed.

Oh, sure. And which spare bedroom do you people seem to think I have, to store such a thing?

The loft.

I just want to lay down some coherent thoughts. I know, difficult for me.

First off, I'd like to address the main rulebook itself. Full-color across the board, with a VERY high quality binding. Several fold-out inspirational sections, large artwork, etc. One 'bookmark' ribbon. I really think they should have put in about four or five of these. This is the best book I have seen GW put out, ever. It should last a very long time. Compare this to the 3rd edition rulebook, which fell apart in days.

Additionally, aside from featuring a WOMAN in the first few pages, the book has an entire hobby section, and the whole book really pushes the HOBBY. Hard. Big displays, well painted armies, quicky 'get up and running' painting and modelling tutorials, a section of kitbashing. The downside is many paragraphs of self-serving "WE'RE THE BEST!" gak which is, frankly, a load of total bs. But, it is the in-house publication, and they're allowed to say whatever they want. The section on finecast, and the amount of extra product you have to buy to prep them (scraping tool, sanding sticks, liquid greenstuff) is an embarrassment, and probably the section of the book that is the most egregious when it comes to bold-face lies.

Throughout the entire book, there are call-outs talking about creating an ongoing Narrative with your games. The "British" viewpoint on the game (non-tournament, play in the pub) is gloriously on display, here.

The battles section is GREAT, a real touchback to early 40K where even the battlefield wanted to kill you. 6th Edition 40K is not a sterile tabletop. While I don't think they went far enough, the 6E battlefield is a living, INTERACTIVE tabletop. I'll touch on this again in a little bit.

Finally, I almost want to cut out and scan the back six or seven pages of reference. There's an ENTIRE game reference back there, along with a list of all basic troop statlines AND every weapon in the game (and upcoming weapons, too!).

All in all, I feel the rulebook is actually WORTH $75. Of course, I paid $60, after tax. *ahem* I could compare this $75 to, say, a $75 self-contained game, but that's really comparing apples to kumquats and, as such, will be discouraged.

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The FAQ's.

While it is GREAT that they had them up on Zero Day, they suck. I mean, seriously and fully SUCK. People are already all over GW for things like the Winged Daemon Prince in the CSM codex being an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT UNIT TYPE than the...Winged Daemon Prince in the Daemons codex. Hopefully, we'll see some 6.1 FAQs up, but I can't help but feel that the FAQs were an afterthought.

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The rules themselves.

Overall, I think this is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE worth of improvement. While I see where their proofreaders screwed up, overall it is a solid set of rules. There are some issues.

1) Fliers and AA. Until all armies get some AA rules AND Flyer rules, we're in a serious 'have nots' situation. Also, the Necron Flyers are ABSURDEDLY undercosts for what they can do, given the nerf to transports. Oh. My. God.
2) Allies. Great for casual players, awful for Tournaments. The "Allies" chart is an absolute JOKE, and should be thrown out by your local gaming group.
3) The WTF moment.

Every new set of rules has had the WTF moment. In the last edition, it was the Mechanized Tide. In this edition, it is the "Look out, Sir!" rule. One rule affects the ENTIRE game, and has already proven to slow down close combat to nothing, as people game the "Character" rule, to gain an additional save. I can see that, for tournaments, this is rapidly going to be the 'new meta'.

We are, for better or worse, back in "Herohammer". Maybe it is good to sell to teenaged boys a game where their Superhero gets to smash through a hundred enemy men, rend tanks, and brutalize the battlefield. This is what 2nd edition came down to, and it is what we've come down to now...except without the cheap Vortex Grenade to drop at the feet of the Superhero, with a smile. People will need to adjust to this, just as they needed to adjust to Mechanized Crush.

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For the fluff/casual player.

WOW. Working terrain! Fortifications! Objectives with cool rules! Allies! Narrative battles! Campaigns! A VASTLY improved table setup and mission generator! Go out there and build your EPIC battlefields, folks! Crack open the BBQ grill, open up some cold ones, and get ready for a CRANKING GOOD TIME. It simply is NOT a better time to be a fluff/casual 40K player.

Build those objective markers. Build those terrain pieces. The battlefield setup rules which explain how to lay out fortifications, terrain, and objectives are wonderful. Don't skimp on the random objectives, and the mysterious terrain. Unlike in Fantasy, this really HELPS 40K build an exciting, unpredictable battlefield. Yes, it is entirely possible that the Comms Relay Objective you MUST TAKE AT ALL COSTS is in the middle of a razorwing hive nest.

Embrace the random, embrace the fluff, throw out the Allies table in favor of your own. Make great terrain. Make great battles. Make great stories.

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For the tourney player.

I'm so very sorry. This rulebook is a big middle finger to your desires to have a streamlined coherent set of rules, where there won't be any disagreements, and the 'roll a d6 rule' will never be used. Heck, I know most of you will be ignoring all the terrain rules, get pissy about the allies metagame, and will be convinced that all is lost. Oh, and then you'll be annihilated by Necrons, over....and over....and over...

No, in all seriousness, this rulebook is several pounds of screaming declaration. This is not a game designed for tournament play. End. Of. Story.

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For the tournament organizers.

Can I buy you a beer? No, really. Good quality stuff, because you're all going to be drinking heavily. I'm really sorry.

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The Codexes.

Way, way too early to see the Meta, but here we go. Metagame and Allies will be discussed in their own sections. Armies with a flyer are [marked]. Armies with an actual Skyfire unit are *marked*. Armies with flyers AND a skyfire unit are [*marked*]. A flyer is an army with a Flyer or a Flying Monsterous Creature. Forge World units are NOT considered, here. Flyers are NOT considered for the purposes of Skyfire, I'm looking to denote armies that have dedicated Skyfire/AA platforms.

Black Templars - Slight buff. New wound allocation rules buff codexes with lots of ICs.

[Blood Angels] - Mixed. the loss of +1 Init off of Furious Charge hurts the entire army. FNP changes are a wash, I think they're better now. they have a Flyer.

[Chaos Demons] - I think they're somewhat hosed, but since they don't use vehicles, they will be less affected by the meta change than most. However, the power weapon nerf affects them a LOT. They DO have Monstrous Flyers, so that's a big buff.

Chaos Space Marines - Hosed until the new codex, which will catapult them into top tier or make a lot of CSM players so. Very. Angry. Reason: Cultists.

Dark Angels - Hellllllloooooooooooooooo DEATHWING and Ravenwing! Welcome back. New Codex will vault them into a top tier army, NO PROBLEM. AND they gain a Flyer!

[Dark Eldar] - Can't charge out of the webway anymore. But they have a Flyer. Lack of AP2 close combat weapons will force a change to bring the units that have them into play. Their vehicles are now stupidly fragile, and flickerfields need a FAQ ASAP.

Eldar - Uhm. Yeah. Anyone got a Samm-hain army around? No? Bonus: DE Harlies are better than Eldar Harlies...but you can take them as allies, now! Most powerful Psykers in the fluff...ohhhh, so sorry. Thankfully, you have Eldrad, right? Right? Bueller?

[Grey Knights] - Somewhat Nerfed. The GK meta has to be seriously re-thought, as the mechanized rush and Psyfleman Dreads will be going down like tin cans in a shooting gallery. However, Psyfleman Dreads are also one of the only non-deciated AA platforms in the game, due to their strength, range, number of shots and twin-linking-looking-for-6's. The loss of AP2 acorss the board hurts, expect to see Terminators-as-troops make a MASSIVE appearance. They have a Flyer, so they're still in the running for top tier.

[*Imperial Guard*] - A wash. Hydras are now dedicated AA platforms, and Mech Guard is vulnerable. But IG has the tools in their Codex to cope, and cope well. Top tier army, welcome to the age of the powerblob. Only Army with Flyers AND AA.

[Necron] - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Buffed so high, they should be banned from tournaments. Necrons are the OMGWTFBBQ codex. 36" transport unassaultable flyers! Everything causes glancing hits! Swooping attacks ignore cover and smoke! Still causes night fighting, and acute senses no longer counter it! Zam! Blam! Blooey! Every Necron player should be rolling around on the floor, laughing until they pass out with glee. Any Necron player who dares make a complaint should be punched in the face. Twice.

[Orks] - Hard to say. Trukks are stupidly fragile (like Dark Eldar) but the new wound allocation rules give them massive power blobs. Expect a return of Flash Gits. They have Flyers, which automatically buffs them to mid-tier or higher. The loss of the +1 Init in Furious charge HURTS them. Precision Strike off of IC's HURTS them, because most of their blobs have a single 'important' model. However, a unit of Nobz on Bikes, which is an all-character-army, is this brutal thing of legend. Also, Mega-Armoured Nobz are BACK IN THE GAME, thanks to the power weapon nerf. I think it is a good day to be an Ork.

Sisters of Battle - Only Codex whose special rules can buff allies! WOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Purge with fire, sisters, it's a disco inferno! This is the "Dark Horse" candidate for top tier army.

[Space Marines] - Light buffs, nothing seriously nerfed. Will be interesting to see if Vanguards can make a come-back. Lysanderwing makes a strong showing here. Gained a Flyer that assists Deep Striking. HMMMMMM.

Space Wolves - Buffed, I think. Their usual mech tactics got nerfed, but they may be the best Psykers in the game now. And with a plethora of characters and TONS of ICs, they will play the Herohammer Metagame very well. Spamming Long Fangs is a good AA defense, and most builds have this built in, so the lack of a Flyer won't hurt them as much as other armies.

Tau Empire - Spanked. While Rapid Fire helps them a lot, and I expect them to become the second best vehicle killer in the game, the loss of Target Locks and the new Wound Allocation rules mean Tau players have a lot of re-thinking to do. Stealth Suits are now VERY powerful, and a unit of 2 Gun Drones off of a vehicle can deny an objective. There's a lot of whining right now, but I think that this is another "Dark Horse" Codex once the meta settles out. Not setting the Skyray as a Skyfire vehicle is one of the stupidest decisions made. It makes it an artillery platform only, and not a very good one at that. HOWEVER, once a markerlight touches an enemy flyer, that flyer is *$@#()$ DEAD from Seeker Missile Spam. This Codex is the most nerfed in the Flyer Meta.

[Tyranids] - Man, this one's tough. The loss of synapse creatures (fearless) to go to ground is off-set by Monstrous Flyers, and the fact that they have NO VEHICLES. Everything they have either contests or outright claims objectives. With the new battles, and monstrous creatures being able to take cover again, this goes into the "Dark Horse" category.

So, let's top five:
1) Necrons
2) Necrons
3) Necrons
4) Grey Knights
5) Imperial Guard

Dark Horses: Sister of Battle, Tau Empire, Tyranids

Possible big losers: Tau Empire, Chaos Space Marines.

Note that both 'losers' are just possible, as one needs the Meta to settle down, and both have the promise of new Codexes soon. CSM is a "Big If".

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The Metagame.

The Power Weapon Nerf is big. Power weapons are AP3, and that means TEQ is the new King of the Battlefield. (TEW == Terminator Equivalent, aka 2+ saves). The fact that a 'power weapon' is now a sword (AP3, Str), Axe (I1, +1 Str, AP2), Maul (+2 Str, AP4, Concussive) or Lance (weird)....means you can declre what weapons your unit has before the battle. Expect a LOT of magnetized weapon arms coming into play, ASAP, until this is clarified. The Chaplain Crozius is AP4. That's got a lot of players honked. I also think GW missed a great chance to make Chainswords stand out. They're the same as all other CCWs like knives. They should have been (-1 Init, +1 Str). OH WELL.

"Look out, Sir!" - This is the game changer. It buffs characters, super-buffs Independent Characters, will cause the WAACs to conga-line their troops, and super-buff already existing Deathstar Units. It also slows down handling wounds in shooting *AND* close combat, with CC taking a seirous hit. Tourneys are going to have to radically re-calculate the time it takes to play a game. I hate this rule.

Vehicle Damage/Hull Points - Vehicles are going to be glanced to death, but you no longer have to worry about a glancing hit making your vehicle useless. Squadron Damage is now SANE. Hull points have been applied poorly, not enough thought went into this. A chimera is 3 HP, a Land Raider is only 4. Weapon destroyed results are now randomized, put those sponson weapons back on.

Movement - Nerfed for everyone except Flyers and Necrons. Embarking/Disembarking is a lot more LOGICAL, but people are going to be upset at such a radical change to the rules. Random charge length is another nerd-rage inducer.

Pre-measuring - All in, baby. And it is about time. The movement to cut out all guesstimating (Which favored people like myself) is complete.

Wound allocation - Closet models get killed first. You can't kill a model you can't see. Precision strikes. A lot of stuff that's going to slow the game down, create new shenanigans...and most casual players will roll right through, because we won't be trying to WAAC our way through a battle.

Pysker Powers - Wow, total upheaval, in firing, using, and the 'new random powers'. Lash...sucks even worse now.

Objective Claiming: Vehicles can't claim objectives. Units *IN* vehicles can't claim objectives. They've defined EXACTLY what can claim, and what can "Deny". This change is very important, and nerfs vehicles. If you want to hold an objective, you have to put boots (claws, hooves) on the ground.

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The Missions/The Battlefield

Just simply awesome. Three radically different table deployments, six 'regular' missions and a few 'Example' missions of 'make it up yourself'. Terrain is defined, buying fortifications is a BLATANT 'buy our product' rule...but one that will be good once people start building themed terrain for their armies. Setting up terrain goes like this:

Place your fortifications. Roll for terrain density. Players alternate placing the available terrain. It is OKAY to set up terrain to help your army. You are encouraged to work with your opponent to create a narrative.

You can also just place everything randomly. Obviously, tournaments will go with fixed terrain, because that's what tourney players want, and placing terrain before each battle slows things down way too much, especially when combined with the wound allocation slowdown.

Random battlefield effects, a list of well-defined terrain types (trewnches, tank traps, razorwire, etc) and a list of random objectives and random 'battlefield debris' makes for an exciting time. You can, of course, also allow for people to choose their objectives, or place specific objectives and debris to create a stunning narrative battle scenario!

I cannot stress how much the Missions and Terrain rules have riveted(*) down that this is a HOBBY game, meant to be played together with people to create an epic adventure.

(*) See what I did there, -=]_.=- ?

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Overall, I think this is a serious WIN for my style of 40K play. Enough so that I'm going to try and put together a local group that plays the game for fun. I am genuinely excited to play Warhammer 40K again.

But the WAAC/hardcore/'ard boyz are going to dislike it a lot. Unless they're Necron players. Those people are still rolling on the floor, laughing and gasping for breath.

But, understand this: We are back in the land of Herohammer, where Mighty Heroes stride the battlefield. A "Hero" is going an Independent Character, in 2+/?++ armor, with an AP2 weapon, and some form of high mobility, or lots of cannon fodder to hand wounds off to. Be the rules, he WILL be in front, leading his troops. Ground transports will fall back to a secondary role, eclipsed by Flyers. Battletanks may see an increase in use, but the fact that they can be glanced to death in a single round is...bothersome. All in all, it'll take about a month for the Meta to settle down, and as Codexes and FAQs get issued, you'll see the power structure settle as well.

Still. Unbelievably great to be a Necron player, good to be Guard and Grey Knights. Everyone else is...about the same.

--B.

Exalted!

But I think your off on your ork assessment. Though I admit I don't understand the overall rule set yet anywhere near as well as you do.

Looking forward to learning though!

Yeah, I just don't know how to 'call' Orks. One thing is for sure, KFF is still a good thing.

Thanks for the Exalt! I think that's my first one ever!

There is defiantly some good buffs in the rules for orks... but as I add all the little things up I think in total, it's a miss rather than a hit. But nothing so bad that it'll prevent me from working on and playing my army. So I'm good.

So, what about Thunder Hammers?

CSM no Multi Meltas on foot troops oh ffs

shasolenzabi wrote:So, what about Thunder Hammers?

No real change.

Are they all counting as AP-2? Lysanders counts as AP-1

Woot Papa-Nid is a Dark Horse to the power of two

me likey... plus your breakdown is insightful! Never been a Tourney player, now it seems I never will... not a big loss to me tbh...

But can you clarify Monstrous Creatures and Monstrous Flyers for me please, as well as if anything to do with fliers effects gargoyles?

Briancj wrote:

[Necron] - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Buffed so high, they should be banned from tournaments. Necrons are the OMGWTFBBQ codex. 36" transport unassaultable flyers! Everything causes glancing hits! Swooping attacks ignore cover and smoke! Still causes night fighting, and acute senses no longer counter it! Zam! Blam! Blooey! Every Necron player should be rolling around on the floor, laughing until they pass out with glee. Any Necron player who dares make a complaint should be punched in the face. Twice.

Still. Unbelievably great to be a Necron player, good to be Guard and Grey Knights. Everyone else is...about the same.

Oh I was and still am laughing once I saw the FAQ.
Still doesn't mean we (Necron players) are crazy unbeatable, we just reflect the fluff so much more now.
Necrons have been the top of the food chain of technology fluff wise and its a proud day to see it actually mean something.
Great job going over the rulebook Brian and thanks for sharing!

EDIT: Oh and yes, if ANY Necron player complains they should be punched with all the fury of a raging Bloodthirster.

shasolenzabi wrote:Are they all counting as AP-2? Lysanders counts as AP-1

Nothing in the FAQ about Lysander. Thunderhammers in the main book are as they were in 5th.

AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Woot Papa-Nid is a Dark Horse to the power of two

me likey... plus your breakdown is insightful! Never been a Tourney player, now it seems I never will... not a big loss to me tbh...

But can you clarify Monstrous Creatures and Monstrous Flyers for me please, as well as if anything to do with fliers effects gargoyles?

MC's are pretty much at 5th, but they can use cover now. MC Flyers are, basically, organic Flyers and they have their own entire two page rule section.

Mr.Malevolent wrote:
Oh I was and still am laughing once I saw the FAQ.
Still doesn't mean we (Necron players) are crazy unbeatable, we just reflect the fluff so much more now.
Necrons have been the top of the food chain of technology fluff wise and its a proud day to see it actually mean something.
Great job going over the rulebook Brian and thanks for sharing!

EDIT: Oh and yes, if ANY Necron player complains they should be punched with all the fury of a raging Bloodthirster.

I'm afraid I have to disagree, but I 'll be polite. The only weakness of the Necron Codex is that you can be utterly wiped out by a Sweeping Advance, and no special rule can save you. That's it. I feel that every Codex should have SOME kind of weakness, but all the recent Codexii have thrown this out the window.

Necrons control the tabletop (Can create Night Fight AND difficult/dangerous terrain), have Flyers that can move 36" and either draw a deathray that kills everything it touches OR deliver a unit of troops six times farther than most other transports in the game, has the ONLY Chariot in the game, a Chariot that aniihilates anything it PASSES, followed up by a DEVASTATING charge. Your entire army can glance any vehicle to death in a single round of shooting, two of your four vehicles have FOUR hull points (as opposed to three), *AND* you have the ONLY unit in the entire game that can DESTROY a vehicle's armovr value, or remove armour from a multi-wound model. Oh, and that AV reduction on vehicles happens BEFORE you roll to penetrate the vehicle's armor (send in Scarabs and something else, that something else hits 'at the same time' as per the new FAQ)! And that's just the tip of the iceberg. From a gameplay standpoint, you have a half dozen builds (likely more, now) as opposed to the standard 2-3 builds in a given Codex. So you're less likely to be BORED!

I have my Bloodthirster Fist Ready.* (Note: Not for you, you know the gift that's been given.)

--B.

(*) It is just one of those Hulk Fists I spraypainted red.

PS: I have a small Necron force, but I was so horrified by the Codex (and the need to buy all new models, since the ones I had were pretty much useless except the scarab bases) that I put it away.

Thanks. Yeah Necrons are expensive to build on.

Briancj wrote:The only weakness of the Necron Codex is that you can be utterly wiped out by a Sweeping Advance, and no special rule can save you. That's it. I feel that every Codex should have SOME kind of weakness, but all the recent Codexii have thrown this out the window.

Well thats what I was trying to say but failed miserably. They are definitely not unbeatable, we are still walking skeletons with weaker armour then we did before (3+ down to 4+) and pretty much crumble in assault. However, all those things you listed I don't ever use or if I do, use lightly. I don't like the idea of the Chariot sweeping attack (I didn't even like it back in 5th), not a fan of Flyers in general and Scarab Farming was never my thing either (maybe one swarm for me and thats it). Like a great man once said, "with great power comes great responsibility". I know I'll be one of the few Necron players who doesn't rub it in everyones faces.

Now did Reanimation Protocol get nerfed by AP on close combat weapons? I didn't notice anything, I thought maybe you caught something I didn't.

I haven't checked. What happens when you smack a Necron with an AP3 weapon?

He gets back up.
Then you hit him again lol

Well, if they can get back up after being hit by an AP3 weapon, then they can get back up from being thwapped with a Power Sword.

Very nice commentary, Brian. Thanks for posting it.

Thanks for the detailed analysis. It's pretty much what I figured; My CSM more or less stayed the same. I tend to run termie heavy, so the hits on transports for my troops is offset by my termies not being afraid of CC as much. Specially my Khornate chainfist squad!

Orks being my other army, glad that MANz are now viable in a big way. hopefully the rumored plastic box comes out soon. Dakkajet just got even more silly, and since the hits I roll with my lootas tend to only ever be 6's, being able to move them around helps a bit. My kan wall lists took a "bit" of a hit. 2hp is kinda offset by no longer being wrecked on a 4+ pen hit.


Also, I LOVE the rulebook overall. I love all the fortification rules, the building rules, and the dynamic battlefields. Me and my buddies are definitely the fluffy-every-game-has-a-story types. Very rarely did we ever roll for deployment or mission type.

Can you explain what you mean about "transports being nerfed" ? I've finally got enough Chimera kits amassed to give my Guard a "static gunline blob" element as well as some mobility. I'd like to be able to have a sacrificial flank and a mechanized scoring flank.




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..as for the "Look out Sir" rule, for Guard officers anyways, you could always use their bodyguards or CC members to absorb their wounds, I see it as just an extra reroll no?

dsteingass wrote:Can you explain what you mean about "transports being nerfed" ? I've finally got enough Chimera kits amassed to give my Guard a "static gunline blob" element as well as some mobility. I'd like to be able to have a sacrificial flank and a mechanized scoring flank.

GW made a mistake, and did not allocate enough Hull Points to vehicles. They all need to be upped by 1-2 HPs. There's too many things out there that can glance a vehicle to death in a single round of fire. Vehicles are TOAST. YakFace ran a Kan gunline and got erased against a not-very-shooty-army.

This has to be FAQ'd.

..as for the "Look out Sir" rule, for Guard officers anyways, you could always use their bodyguards or CC members to absorb their wounds, I see it as just an extra reroll no?

According to the FAQ, bodyguards in an IG command platoon enable you to auto-pass the LOS rule, as long as the wound is assigned to the Bodyguard.

The "Look out, Sir!" rule is the game-breaker in 6th edition, and they WILL have to FAQ it.

I suppose the rule could just be ignored without affecting the game too much eh?

It would certainly speed up wound allocation.

Brian, can you explain in-detail why the LoS is such a game breaker? Please describe the "abuse" step-by-step so even I can understand it.

The LOS seems like it is more in line with Necromunda gameplay from what I've read...25% of the body, head, arms, and legs, wings and other appendages don't count.

LOS, in this case, means "Look out, Sir."

I will give an example.

You have a Death star. This unit is based around an Independent Character (IC). Since ICs that join a unit are now part of the unit (no more 'fighting as a separate unit), you can do things with them, etc. Your Deathstar follows the new TEQ (Terminator Equivalent) metagame, and have an armour save of 2+/++ In this case, the invulnerable save is irrelevant.

Due to the 'wound closest models first, and you can't move to another model until you take down the closest model' rule, and LOS, you put your IC UP FRONT. He takes all the wounds. All of them. He saves on a 2+, and since he's an IC, he HANDS OFF THE ONE IN SIX UNSAVED WOUNDS...on a 2+.

This means there is a one in 36 chance he's going to take a wound. And you have to roll EACH wound separately, due to the LOS rule. So, if I throw 20 wounds on the Deathstar, we have to roll EACH WOUND ONE AT A TIME. "Does not wound, does not wound, does not wound, wounds, I take my LOS roll and it transfers, does not wound, does not wound..."

It is just obscene.

An easy fix has already been suggested, and that's to declare any LOS attempts BEFORE you make your saving throws. Then you can still roll groups of dice, allocate wounds, and roll them.

Well.... and I'm going to be cheeky here... that's not how LOS works.

You have to "pass on" the wound before the saves are made, at the wound allocation stage. Not after the saving throw is failed. That's very clearly stated in the description of the rule.

Gitsplitta wrote:Well.... and I'm going to be cheeky here... that's not how LOS works.

You have to "pass on" the wound before the saves are made, at the wound allocation stage. Not after the saving throw is failed. That's very clearly stated in the description of the rule.

Not cheeky, open discussion of rules is important.

Check out page 16, Gits. The issue is that on page 16, it says "or unsaved wound", thus after the save is failed. Now, in the entry for assault, it does NOT say that. So, we have a classic GW problem.

AH... yes... yes we do. And it's going to make a huge difference as to the abusability of the rule. Nob bikers are looking good... guess I'd better pick some up. *sigh*

Brian, thanks for the rules rundown. Very interesting, though suffice to say the fact I just picked up chaos marines and my main opponent is necrons.. well..

So I run my Mega nob with 30 boys. You have to kill me 30 times if nobody but my nob is visible cause all my loyal troopers all throw themselves in front incoming fire?

got that right?

SL

It depends on which writing of the LOS rule is correct... by the earlier description of the rule... no, by the later description of the rule, yes.

Right now it's 50/50 until it's FAQ'd.

And how are you getting a mega armored Nob in with a bunch of boys? Are they now an IC or an upgrade? (haven't gotten that far in the book)

Well, you'd have to pass all the LOS rolls too. And be a giant douche.

Be a giant douche. The orks lost a lot of other things this edition... if they give us this, you'd be a fool not to use it.

well this sounds like the anally retentive ten year old in my LGS will be even more anally retentive this edition... having said that, I still refer to him being ten when he's in fact pushing 20... but anyways... stupid 6th ed

Gitsplitta wrote:It depends on which writing of the LOS rule is correct... by the earlier description of the rule... no, by the later description of the rule, yes.

Right now it's 50/50 until it's FAQ'd.

And how are you getting a mega armored Nob in with a bunch of boys? Are they now an IC or an upgrade? (haven't gotten that far in the book)

Sarcasm the lost art. Good thing I didn't start whining about my Necrons.. Glance. glance . glance and glance, glance.. ( necron version of the NIds Nom Nom Nom !!!)

PS. I turn 50 this year..... Glance. glance . glance and glance, glance

and i"m thinking of painting my Necrons yellow with checker shoulders...

Add some Terminators too...

If you add a nob to a mob of Boyz, then you have to do that new funny math to figure out that the Nob is worthless because it uses the majority stats in the open, discarding the Nob's modifiers

Well, the Nob is the hidden powerklaw...which, thanks to "Precision Strike" and the soon to be plethora of snipers... Isn't so hidden anymore.



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Stepped on and broke my flatbed scanner, today. FML.

Someone give me some GOOD news.


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Here's a shot of all three Valks:



And here's what I'm working on, next!



Oh, airbrush. How do I love thee, let me count the ways. Yes, there's overspray. Yes, there's evidence I didn't thin my paint correctly. WHO CARES. So...easy...

Briancj wrote:Well, the Nob is the hidden powerklaw...which, thanks to "Precision Strike" and the soon to be plethora of snipers... Isn't so hidden anymore.



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Stepped on and broke my flatbed scanner, today. FML.

Someone give me some GOOD news.


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Here's a shot of all three Valks:



And here's what I'm working on, next!



Oh, airbrush. How do I love thee, let me count the ways. Yes, there's overspray. Yes, there's evidence I didn't thin my paint correctly. WHO CARES. So...easy...

Glorious freedom of time aint it.

Ah youve joined the airbrush crew! It really is ridiculous how easy it makes things.

Rescue and recovery wing is looking very good!

Thanks, folks!

I have a couple of nice things going, here. I have the start of a casual play group for 40K 6th edition. I'm learning to spraypaint, thanks to my friend Galorn.

I need to pick up some better 'bulk' paints, spraypainting with ANY small bottle paint is a serious waste of money, on the scale of the Ordinatus.

FYI: Citadel paints thin down to airbrush level at about 2 parts paint to one part water. Of course, this is a NEW bottle, and hasn't had a chance to dry out yet. YMMV. Remember, consistency of 2% milk.

briancj wrote:Enjoy. I need a stiff drink, and someone to paint the rest of my miniatures for me.

That is how I am going to end all of my thread updates from now on (or until I forget / get tired of it).

If you are using a detail AB, with a tiny needle, you are going to need them the consistancy of skim milk..water may not work for all of them, windex works, but IMHO Acrylic Thinner is best.

Haven't gotten there yet. Soon. Thanks!

Practice, practice, clean, clean..that's what airbrushing really means!

that sounds like it could be a mary popins song!

Hmmm...How could you take Rosie the Riveter and make her rivet gun allow her to fly...I'm thinking that would be the League Mascot!

lol! i can see her now..

Yeah its all about patience, and bloody cleaning the airbrush constantly. I reccomend getting some proper airbrush cleaner for those times when even strippig it apart doesnt seem to work.

I find a 1:1 of paint:acrylic thinner works great for me.

Windex to clean...definately cheaper, but yeah..sometimes it needs a good AB cleaner, but normally, I just use Windex.

Oh yeah, i save the pricey ab cleaner for when it seems unpossible to make it work again.

Although the ab cleaner does do a good job of lubing up all the mechanisms, whole some other cleaners just remove the grease as well, and can cause stiffening.

Check out this LEAGUE-SPONSORED CONTEST!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/459468.page

are you entering brian?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe.

I did! Have a vague idea of what I'd like to do. No idea how to do it.

It all starts with gluing one thing to another

How about grenades Brian? They were pretty much just useless wastes of points in 5th Ed, what do you think of them now? Worth taking?

Depends on a lot. Since only a single squad member can throw a grenade, when shooting, it should be treated as an additional, free, squad special weapon. Assault-based squads should always remember to throw a grenade. I am seriously considering taking my 'grenade thrower arm' collection, and modifying all my IG squads as a reminder.

I think it is cool, BUT.

The crux of 6th edition:

If you are a casual player, you find all of this stuff great, and you don't mind the extra 25% it'll take, time-wise, to play a game.

If you are a tournament player, WTF MY GUYS DON'T GET THOS EGRENADES IT'LL SLOW THE GAME DOWN THIS IS *#W)$#*)$*#@, @#!*)#@ YOU GW I [ QUIT | WILL RANT | WILL SELL OFF ALL MY MODELS ] (circle one).

Well then, Tournament players are knobs then..get a life

I do feel very sorry for Tournament Players. Once again, they did not get the streamlined rule system they've been angsting for, since the beginning of the major tournament scene (back in 3rd edition, no less). But they seem to think that they're the (a) target audience or, worse, (b) IN THE MAJORITY.

Sorry, folks. Not even close.

I dunno, you can post an army list in some parts of Dakka, hoping to get someone helpful and knowledgeable to help you out, and instead get berated, ridiculed, and called names for not knowing something....Some people are just asssholes like that.

I read battle reports, and have a collection of names whose reports are AWESOME. (PE: I hate video reports, because their claims of 'high quality' are laughable..but that's another rant).

I read P&M plogs.

I poke my nose into the DCM section.

I poke my nose into the non-GW games section.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's about it.

I pretty much stick to the P&M section myself...Really only talented people hang here, OT is full of hatefulness, and people who seem to have no talent at all. I like being around talented folks and seeing their creations.

dsteingass wrote:I pretty much stick to the P&M section myself...Really only talented people hang here, OT is full of hatefulness, and people who seem to have no talent at all. I like being around talented folks and seeing their creations.

I've been to the OT thread once, and thats the only time I've ever been there.. its like take the worst quality of some of our common off-topicers (me of course), and mulitply it by the fact that they dont have to stop!

Rogue Wolves wrote:
I've been to the OT thread once, and thats the only time I've ever been there.. its like take the worst quality of some of our common off-topicers (me of course), and mulitply it by the fact that they dont have to stop!

lol I'm gonna have to move there if we're not careful, my thread is getting too OT for the mods lol xxx

Supply drop has been recovered! Four bottles of Folkart paint for airbrushing, and four new spankin' cans of Rustolem Primer (Black, Dark Grey, Light Grey, Brown).

LET THE GAMES COMMENCE!

^ oh snap brian, I think that means updates in the near future

Yay! Paint!

awesome sauce let the painting commence!

MWAHAHAHAHA!

1/8" MDF + Friend with a Tablesaw == Ready-to-jigsaw terrain bases FTW!

Off to BBQ and poker.

Hee hee!

In my most recent eBay purchase, one of the random metal bitz is a Skullz limited edition Imperial Credit:

sweet find brian

Git... I was bidding on one of those...

Need to cast that bad boy up! Doesn't even look to be hard for that piece.

what is that?

Rogue Wolves wrote:what is that?

Several years ago, and in an alternate, cooler dimension when GW was still trying to be awesome, by buying stuff from GW, you got 'Skullz'. Basically, points. You could spend these points on things. Most were fairly boring some, like the coins, were interesting. A few (like the mega-awesome limited edtion Adepticus Mechanicus set) were...mega-awesome.

dude why cant GW be cool anymore!

I've got the cool Ultramarine standard bearer. I really want to get the iwo jima piece to, but it goes for $50+

just saw all those skulls program models... so awsome!

Those are rare bitz! Good find man!

Great work mate! I'm really digging the colors on those Valks, especially the rescue valkyrie. looking forward to more!

One of the reasons I haven't been making a lot of updates:

http://youtu.be/J6SKXJMlODE

My other, OTHER hobby.

On track to see if I can finish up the two lingering Tau pieces, as well as get my last supply drop shipments OUT to the UK.

OH... and it's a steam engine too! I love model RRing... just suck at it. No talent (or patients) for electronics or building terrain. I suppose I should divest myself of most of my stuff so someone else can enjoy it.

Nice vid Brian!

Gitsplitta wrote:OH... and it's a steam engine too! I love model RRing... just suck at it. No talent (or patients) for electronics or building terrain. I suppose I should divest myself of most of my stuff so someone else can enjoy it.

Nice vid Brian!

Thanks! I will note a few things:

1) With DCC, the 'electronics' side of the balance sheet is pretty much done.
2) The locomotive is making all of the noise in that video.
3) I'm now curious as to what model railroad stuff you have.

Some HO, last stuff has been N just for space considerations but I'm really interested in early steam era or industrial logging/mining operations... which N is NOT a good scale for. Actually I have a ton of locos & cars... just nothing to run them on.

And my early experiments in DCC pretty much failed completely. Chips would fail (had a real MRR guy do the install), etc. That was N scale though.

We can discuss over PM.

Hell I can't fault you for that Brian, My other hobby is Comics

plus with all the writing I've been doing recently I've just not had the heart for hobby stuff.

Hokay, moving on, we're in the home stretch when it comes to "Old Projects on the Shelf of Death". I have a bad habit of starting a project and NOT FINISHING IT. Usually I get bored, or distracted, or hit the painting stage and go 'meh'. So, as my loyal followers...err...readers can see, I have been going through and knocking out all of these old projects. It really feels good to FINISH them, and it clears the decks for me to focus on...The Big O.

Here's the work I've done today. All the fiddly bits for my Air Caste Devilfish/Skyray combo. I love to look of the Tau, even if I don't think the race belongs in the GRIMDARK. Anyways. The two Tau models (this one and the walker Hammerhead) were just "Ideas I had in my head", as I have no real intention of building up a Tau Force. Now, my Kroot on the other hand...

(ahem)



Every option you can take is there. One of the nice things about the person who designed the initial Tau Devilfish/Hammerhead design is that the various 'option holes' are all the same size. The same mount point can handle the Commander's Copula, the Burst Cannon Turret, and the Main Gun turret. (And, by default, the Skyray Turret, which was forced to use the same mount point.) This gives you some interesting conversion options, without having to hack the main hull, which is a pain in the arse.

Briancj wrote:I do feel very sorry for Tournament Players. Once again, they did not get the streamlined rule system they've been angsting for, since the beginning of the major tournament scene (back in 3rd edition, no less). But they seem to think that they're the (a) target audience or, worse, (b) IN THE MAJORITY.

Sorry, folks. Not even close.

I don't feel sorry for Tournies (that's what I call tournament players) at all. I think GW threw them a huge bone w/ vanilla "one size fits all" rules for weapons & vehicles, no wargear cards, etc. They are the reason we didn't have good things for a long time.

But the pendulum is swinging back. 6th reminds of 2nd in many ways, and in my world that is a very awesome thing.

I noticed your supply drop included Folk Art paint! I'm still experimenting w/ a couple things but if I get the results I'm looking for I'm going to share a new line of inks I found while at my FLCS (Friendly Local Craft Store) the other day.

Thankfully, I only attend one tournament a year.

I feel sorry for the Tournies because they've convinced themselves that they are the driving "force" in 40K, and that GW should bow to their whims. But they're the minority, and *WE* are the majority. And 6th edition was a big win for us.

I hate putting it in 'us versus them' terms, but the fact remains: GW Design Studio produces hobby games. GW Corporate wants to move product. GW as a whole entity moves to these two drummers.

..and WE keep buying the gak!

Briancj wrote:Hokay, moving on, we're in the home stretch when it comes to "Old Projects on the Shelf of Death". I have a bad habit of starting a project and NOT FINISHING IT. Usually I get bored, or distracted, or hit the painting stage and go 'meh'. So, as my loyal followers...err...readers can see, I have been going through and knocking out all of these old projects. It really feels good to FINISH them, and it clears the decks for me to focus on...The Big O.

When you say the Big O, do you mean the Big F? As in Fachen? As in Big Fachen Missile launcher?

Or did I miss something?

Yes, the Big Ordinatus.

..PAINT IT!

Indeed.. ..PAINT IT!

the tribe has spoken paaaaaiiint iiiiitttt.....

Paint it! No one gives a darn about Tau anyway... unless you're providing tartar sauce and lemon with your Hammerhead.

I care. They're bugging me, and I have to clear them out, before I can make progress on anything else.

OK... get a bucket of Sherwin-Williams, a blow dryer and some medium brown acrylic stain... and viola... you're done!

I'm...sensing something from you, Gits... I'm not sure what it is, but...there's definitely something.

LOL! I'm just not a Tau guy, that's all. Go play with your fishies Brian... I'm sure they deserve some attention. I'm just anxious to see the monstrosity painted and ready to field.