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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
That's disappointing but not unexpected.
I really was looking forward to the new designs CMON showed off a few years ago.
Maybe they'll be able to take the figures that already were being worked on and roll them into a new sci fi game? Perhaps without the stigma of being called Sedition Wars?
Nobody can argue that the designs themselves weren't nice looking.
With CMON's advances in plastic figures maybe a rebranded and renamed game could do a lot better, especially if they just let Mike sculpt and farm the rules out to one of the teams they like to work with.
A man can hope at least. I had fun the few times I played the game. Lopsided game at times, but fun nonetheless...
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Post by: Talking Banana
Perhaps this will clear the way for CMON to release a new, better sci-fi miniature boardgame?
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Post by: Bioptic
Oh no, I was really looking forward to owning some of these designs at a non-bonkers price:
http://studiomcvey.highwire.com/products/sedition-wars-limited-edition?pagesize=40
The 30% off Christmas coupon has long expired, sadly.
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Post by: DaveC
Funny thing is some of the new minis even made it to tooling for production I know the Gnosis suits are done.
So perhaps they may show up some day in some form whether it's this game or another - CMoN still hold the rights to this game. (Note this is speculation on my part not something I have been told). It would be shame not to get them out there I have a set in resin and they are great minis and there are some great designs that have never been shown (The resins are priced on a very limited run basis there are only 50-100 of each mini in existence).
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Post by: AlexHolker
I still think it's insane that he threw away the most interesting thing about the setting. Instead of going with the Sixth Day approach, this should have been a setting where science proved the soul exists, and is capable of transferring your soul into a "blank" clone to cheat death.
You want a reason for Drones to be a downtrodden underclass? The technology doesn't work on Drones, which "obviously" means they don't have souls, which according to the zeitgeist means you can't enslave them any more than you'd enslave a toaster.
You want a reason for the Strain to be the stuff of horror stories? In a world of immortals, there are biomechanical horrors that corrupt as often as they kill, and you can't come back if the Strain gets into your black box.
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Post by: Necros
Sad to see it go, but I can see why. Still, I think it would have been cool to keep it going as just a line of sci fi minis. They're all good sculpts. Maybe they could be redone in regular resin or metal for the smaller figs?
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Post by: Siygess
Before I forget can someone point me at the latest version of the rules / solo rules / campaign so I can grab them in the event they vanish along with the forums?
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
Sorry to see it go, but glad I was able to move mine last year.
Kickstarters are not having a good track record/long life...
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Post by: Siygess
Thanks Dave!
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Post by: MLaw
I hope CMON picks it up. I have wanted a Gnosis unit for a long time but the rent is too high on his boutique figures. We know CMON has picked up floundering titles before so hopefully that's how this plays out.
Another possibility would be Mark Moondragon from Dreamforge picking up those ranges to flesh out his setting and establish his actual game. Either way, the development is troubling but hopefully not the last we'll see of this range.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
Pretty disappointed to hear this, a lot of us spent some serious time getting that game into shape (which, while not perfect, was still solid IMHO), but all that fallout from the 1.5 rules set and people not being used to PVC torpedoed it I guess.
And CMON presumably wouldn't "pick it up" since they were already partners.
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Post by: MLaw
I'm not sure what your logic is here.. If anything I would think it would provide inroads not some sort of barrier.
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
I think a rebranding would be the best course of action. Maybe a somewhat modified/ streamlined ruleset (like get rid of some of the obtuse terminology).
There definitely is a solid set of rules and lore already in place. Since McVey is very much still involved with CMON, I hope the two can work something out to everyone's benefit.
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Post by: Azazelx
The name is poison. Better to let it rest.
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Post by: Dark Severance
highlord tamburlaine wrote:I think a rebranding would be the best course of action. Maybe a somewhat modified/ streamlined ruleset (like get rid of some of the obtuse terminology).
I took a read through the book again since it has been awhile. I think it rebranding would completely help, especially if they swap out terminology. It took me awhile to remember that vectors is LoS and a few other things which made it confusing or read like a technical manual, instead of a game with similar rules that other games have (give or take a few things).
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Post by: JamesY
I hate to say this, as I've been a fan of Mike's work for about 25 years, but it's about time. The forum was dead, the game is dead.
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Post by: Necros
I liked the minis a lot.. well the material could have been better but sculpts were great. I had planned to build a high tech IG army with them, but ended up selling them later on. I saw the boxed game on amazon recently for like $20.
Kinda hoping they will still sell the minis in their online store, been wanting to get ahold of some of them, but never did, and my new toys budget is blown for this month already.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
MLaw wrote:I'm not sure what your logic is here.. If anything I would think it would provide inroads not some sort of barrier.
I'm in agreement that they could do something with it. I was just saying that I wouldn't call using something they have access to already "picking it up."
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Post by: MLaw
spiralingcadaver wrote: MLaw wrote:I'm not sure what your logic is here.. If anything I would think it would provide inroads not some sort of barrier.
I'm in agreement that they could do something with it. I was just saying that I wouldn't call using something they have access to already "picking it up."
Ah, I gotcha. I had been under the impression that CMON was just handling distribution.. so (at least from my understanding) McVey owned the IP and all rights.. which would mean he would have to legally hand it all over to them for them to take the reigns and make it their own thing. Personally, I would want to see the assets re-purposed in the same way that they did Ron N Bones. I didn't back the KS but picked the Alabaster set up on Amazon for a song.. the rules and tiles were not really something I would want to deal with but the miniatures and concepts for the setting are cool enough that I would want to have a sleek game to fit those things in, even if it meant buying a new core set.
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Post by: insaniak
Uriels_Flame wrote:Sorry to see it go, but glad I was able to move mine last year.
Kickstarters are not having a good track record/long life...
Sedition Wars was the early poster child for 'How to Screw Up a Successful Kickstarter 101' so its tottering aimlessly around the room for a while before finally expiring quietly behind the couch shouldn't really be taken as indicative of anything to do with the ongoing health of other Kickstarter projects.
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Post by: Kalamadea
I recommend picking up the terrain pack while they're still around to to anybody that hasn't, so many awesome useful bits in there. Objectives and doors and turrets and all kinds of fun stuff, that's what I'll be sad to see go. The game? Notsomuch. SO glad I got mine on superclearance and didn't buy into the original KS, and I suspect the main game be around for a while yet on secondary online stores
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Post by: MLaw
Kalamadea wrote:I recommend picking up the terrain pack while they're still around to to anybody that hasn't, so many awesome useful bits in there. Objectives and doors and turrets and all kinds of fun stuff, that's what I'll be sad to see go. The game? Notsomuch. SO glad I got mine on superclearance and didn't buy into the original KS, and I suspect the main game be around for a while yet on secondary online stores
ARG.. you had to say something. I had checked an hour or two at MiniatureMarket and there were still some in stock.. just went back.. NOPE.. sold out.
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Post by: Moopy
This was the first miniatures game I funded on Kickstarter (Ogre was the first board game). So very very excited for it.
It was also the first disappointment from Kickstarter. There were others, but man... such is fate.
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Unfortunate and quite expected...
They should reboot it instead of putting it under the rug and pretend it is not there, the IP had potential and the space for non Gothic chi fi is relatively free.
I think McVey misunderstands the potential the IP has despite the damage he has managed to put on the IP.
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Post by: MangoMadness
Lol, it was dead upon release.
I did like the drones, the bases and the markers that clicked onto the bases were a good idea, the rest was pretty crap
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Post by: Theophony
I bought 5 sets through Miniaturemarket for the $18-27 range during sales and regular clearance and only had a couple of miscasts (the drone gun platform thing both times). Also bought someones pledge from on here to get the exclusives at a bargain, may have been Necro's  . I never even read the rule book as everyone dissed that, and all the counters have been separated into baggies. The bases are great, I love the strain models and most of the peacekeeper models are awesome, I just dont like the sniper figure. I was planning on using the models for Warpath as humans and plague figures, but I guess that's still a long ways off. I hope Mike and CMoN can keep the style and I think switching to Boardgame plastic would work for this. Heck they could reskin Zombicide and do Zombicide: Strain Plague or something. The Zombies being controlled by the strain.
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Post by: RiTides
DaveC wrote:The forum will be open until the 29th of February. It's had some intermittent server issues over the last few days due to increased traffic but it should be back later or I'll chase it up. So if you want any information from it get it now as it won't be rehosted once the forum is switched off when it's gone it's gone.
I spoke to Mike 2 weeks ago about this and it was decided to close the forum due to the low usage levels it just doesn't justify the costs of keeping it open any longer. He has no plans to release any Sedition Wars stuff or any SMV limited resins in 2016. The SW follow up stuff is moth balled and is unlikely to see release (better to write off the cost now than put more money that may not see any return). Mike's just not interested in doing another game anymore.
SMV is working on the miniatures for at least 2 other games right now. Mike would rather just concentrate on making miniatures in future as this worked out much better for him with Blood Rage, The Others and Zombicide Black Plague.
DaveC wrote:Funny thing is some of the new minis even made it to tooling for production I know the Gnosis suits are done.
So perhaps they may show up some day in some form whether it's this game or another - CMoN still hold the rights to this game. (Note this is speculation on my part not something I have been told). It would be shame not to get them out there I have a set in resin and they are great minis and there are some great designs that have never been shown (The resins are priced on a very limited run basis there are only 50-100 of each mini in existence).
Thanks for the excellent info, DaveC! I would love to see those Gnosis suits come to light, especially if they're already tooled! Seems like they could work quite well in Xenoshyft if both parties were willing?
Would you mind if I asked what your personal plans are going forward, since you seem to have had such close involvement with what could have been future releases here (all of which looked stellar, btw - McVey really can sculpt!!).
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
I say roll it all into Zombicide Season 4: Zombicide in Space!
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Post by: DaveC
RiTides I've not had much involvement for awhile now other than keeping the forum ticking over I helped Nick with the solo rules and that's the last real input any of us have had.
The Arms of Sorrow rules were written they even made it to play testing but they were just an extension of the base BfA rules that a lot of people have no time for.It was set on a ship so there were rules for hull breaches and breaking through walls the Vanguard also had formation rules that gave them bonuses (they were written by the same writing team as the 2nd printing rulebook - who later parted ways with SMV) In the end there was little point in developing them further and work stopped. A reboot was a real possibility up until a few months ago but that's off the table for now Mike hasn't said it will never come back just that he has no interest in doing it now or in the near future so maybe some day?
Once the forum closes that's me done although I'm happy to help Mike out in future if needed. I enjoy the game it probably helps that I know it inside out, errata and all so I have no issues playing it, sure it still has it's flaws and issues but I get enjoyment from it I'm happy (maybe I'm just easily pleased  ) A lot of people put a lot of work into getting it to where it is now so it's a pity it ended how it has but I understand that decision. Keep in mind I know far more about what happened here than most and I enjoy reading the theories people have some are closer than they know but there's a few key bits of info missing and what I know I was told in confidence or is covered by NDA so it's not my place to discuss it. There was mistakes on all sides some avoidable some not but that's water under the bridge and I think everyone learned a lot from the process.
Remy Tremblay really deserves the credit for the sculpting on the new stuff he now works full time for SMV and Mike had him do the bulk of the SW, Blood Rage and The Others minis he also did a good few ZcBP sculpts which Guillotine games commission SMV to do (he was supposed to work on earlier Zc sculpts but didn't have the time) I'd say he's busy working on the Chronicles of Hate now. Also credit to Remy for taking it on himself to translate all of the SW rules and scenarios into French.
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Post by: Theophony
Remy is one of the reasons I got Blood Rage, such awesome work he does. Any word of when Chronicles of Hate will come out?
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Post by: RiTides
DaveC wrote:RiTides I've not had much involvement for awhile now other than keeping the forum ticking over I helped Nick with the solo rules and that's the last real input any of us have had.
The Arms of Sorrow rules were written they even made it to play testing but they were just an extension of the base BfA rules that a lot of people have no time for.It was set on a ship so there were rules for hull breaches and breaking through walls the Vanguard also had formation rules that gave them bonuses (they were written by the same writing team as the 2nd printing rulebook - who later parted ways with SMV) In the end there was little point in developing them further and work stopped. A reboot was a real possibility up until a few months ago but that's off the table for now Mike hasn't said it will never come back just that he has no interest in doing it now or in the near future so maybe some day?
Once the forum closes that's me done although I'm happy to help Mike out in future if needed. I enjoy the game it probably helps that I know it inside out, errata and all so I have no issues playing it, sure it still has it's flaws and issues but I get enjoyment from it I'm happy (maybe I'm just easily pleased  ) A lot of people put a lot of work into getting it to where it is now so it's a pity it ended how it has but I understand that decision. Keep in mind I know far more about what happened here than most and I enjoy reading the theories people have some are closer than they know but there's a few key bits of info missing and what I know I was told in confidence or is covered by NDA so it's not my place to discuss it. There was mistakes on all sides some avoidable some not but that's water under the bridge and I think everyone learned a lot from the process.
Remy Tremblay really deserves the credit for the sculpting on the new stuff he now works full time for SMV and Mike had him do the bulk of the SW, Blood Rage and The Others minis he also did a good few ZcBP sculpts which Guillotine games commission SMV to do (he was supposed to work on earlier Zc sculpts but didn't have the time) I'd say he's busy working on the Chronicles of Hate now. Also credit to Remy for taking it on himself to translate all of the SW rules and scenarios into French.
Once again, thanks for the extremely informative post, DaveC!
The sculpting on the recent releases is top notch, and SMV were very smart to hire Remy Tremblay! Mike's stuff is amazing too, of course, but they've really been able to output a lot with Remy, from the above list.
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Post by: Absolutionis
Don't they still at least have the master molds of the original models? Can the models not eventually be remolded in another medium?
The sculpts themselves were actually rather fine. The Strain eventually became repetitive, but that wasn't too big of a deal. Reaper Bones maybe?
Then again, with people buying the core game for $20 or so with all those models, it'd be a rather difficult sell. Reminds me of the popular Warzone sprue by Prince Albert games that sold 28mm models for around $1.50 per soldier. Those models outlived the game tremendously and were simply known for a cheap way to get okay looking stuff.
I wonder if Sedition Wars's Terrain Set will be known the same way AT-43 is known as that game with the cool crates.
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Post by: MLaw
Absolutionis wrote:Don't they still at least have the master molds of the original models? Can the models not eventually be remolded in another medium?
The sculpts themselves were actually rather fine. The Strain eventually became repetitive, but that wasn't too big of a deal. Reaper Bones maybe?
Then again, with people buying the core game for $20 or so with all those models, it'd be a rather difficult sell. Reminds me of the popular Warzone sprue by Prince Albert games that sold 28mm models for around $1.50 per soldier. Those models outlived the game tremendously and were simply known for a cheap way to get okay looking stuff.
I wonder if Sedition Wars's Terrain Set will be known the same way AT-43 is known as that game with the cool crates.
Those Warzone sprues were about $.80 a soldier when my son bought them
The terrain for Sedition Wars was always hard to find. Now it's almost impossible.. in contrast, I can still find AT43 crates :/ In fact I think Chaosorc probably has the starters for stupidly cheap still.
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Post by: Pugnacious_Cee
coolminiornot.com's store shows more than 2000 in stock for the Sedition Wars terrain, priced at $39.99.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
On release, SedWars was a sub-par game with nice minis, but potentially salvagable with a streamlined, balanced 2nd edition.
The actual 2nd edition rules and cards that took extra money to fix nothing (but actually made tings more unbalanced?) - that was the real nail in the coffin.
Oh, well...
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Post by: MLaw
Pugnacious_Cee wrote:coolminiornot.com's store shows more than 2000 in stock for the Sedition Wars terrain, priced at $39.99.
Oh really.. going to have to hit that up..
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Post by: MangoMadness
JohnHwangDD wrote:
On release, SedWars was a sub-par game with nice minis, but potentially salvagable with a streamlined, balanced 2nd edition.
The actual 2nd edition rules and cards that took extra money to fix nothing (but actually made tings more unbalanced?) - that was the real nail in the coffin.
Oh, well...
Rule changes wouldn't have changed the map tiles with only 1 point of entry an each wall leading to the very predictable choke points.
Unfortunately when they chose to use large map tiles they didnt understand/care that it limits the map variation which leads to predictable movement paths in the scenarios.
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Post by: Theophony
MLaw wrote: Pugnacious_Cee wrote:coolminiornot.com's store shows more than 2000 in stock for the Sedition Wars terrain, priced at $39.99.
Oh really.. going to have to hit that up..
Or miniature market got 7 in, at $27.98
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
True, true about the maps. But there were bigger fish to fry than those.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
I now see copies for $10 + $10 S&H on ebay. $20 for the bases is probably a steal.
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Post by: Piston Honda
I saw one sell for 7.99 not too long ago.
Oy vey.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
If they weren't so heavy, you'd want to bundle them in as part of a "$100 mystery box" promotion, FREE with any purchase over $200...
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Post by: Breotan
This was the Kickstarter where I learned the importance of the phrase, "Define 'plastic'" - a phrase I thought I'd never actually have to use.
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Post by: Siygess
Yeah it's sad.. I told a few friends about a ~£15 deal for the core box and they snapped them up. They all said the same thing; Great bases and it comes with a free game.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Welp, looks like everything's truly dead now, as my link to the forum material no longer works. Such a promising-looking game to be the one that scared me away from Kickstarters on my first go! Being tricked into paying more money for a second flawed edition of the rulebook where almost nothing got changed-hooray!
I'm not even sure if I have enough material to make the game workable if I ever even got the courage to open the damn box again. It's been closed in the corner since about a month after it came, when I had hopes to re-sell it.
Anyone know if there's an Ebay market for the exclusive miniatures, like "not-Riddick"?
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Post by: Breotan
Paint them and put them in your display cabinet.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Unfortunately $150 is a lot for a bunch of display models, when that's all my 40k stuff has been for 20 years, lol.
SedWars was an important kickstarter lesson, being very early on in the miniatures kickstarter business and one of the first of Restic miniatures. Just bummed I had to learn it firsthand, but at least it tought me a very important lesson of restic, which is to never buy any more!
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
AegisGrimm wrote:Welp, looks like everything's truly dead now, as my link to the forum material no longer works.
Such a promising-looking game to be the one that scared me away from Kickstarters on my first go! Being tricked into paying more money for a second flawed edition of the rulebook where almost nothing got changed-hooray!
I'm not even sure if I have enough material to make the game workable if I ever even got the courage to open the damn box again. It's been closed in the corner since about a month after it came, when I had hopes to re-sell it.
Anyone know if there's an Ebay market for the exclusive miniatures, like "not-Riddick"?
Good riddance to bad garbage.
I was OK with the game itself, got through the minis build and played a few games, feeling that the game had potential if someone would just clean it up to make it simpler and less baroque, without the complications for complication's sake. I, too, paid for the revised rulebook, and was completely infuriated that they charged money for doing basically zero work on it. That was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
I'm sure there's several-fold more material in the toolkit needed to make "proper" a not-Space Hulk game of some sort, adapted to a simpler, cleaner game engine. But with how shabbily the backers were treated, and for how sour the taste is, why would anyone bother?
Eh, throw them up and see if anybody bites.
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Post by: Necros
I ended up selling all of my KS minis a while ago, but always regretted it since I do like em. actually ended up buying the boxed game again later for $20  I'm gonna be using them for sci fi skirmish games
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Post by: insaniak
I still have all of mine. I toyed with the idea of making an Eldar army out of the human models from the box set, but that may or may not ever actually happen.
No idea what to do with the Wave 2 models, as most of them are just so poor.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
Still have to finish mine, the restic hate prevents me to continue
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
Having missed the kickstarter, I still want to try and track down some scenery and wave 2 figures. Game wasn't that bad when we pawned it off on our cousin, who will read/ play just about anything.
Those figures have gotten a lot of use in a lot of games as well (seeing as how we painted them pretty decently for him).
I'm still saddened by the lack of cool second box stuff that got shown off ages ago.
My hope is McVey and Guillotine team up again and take some of those created assets and put t hem to use in a fresher, shinier game that won't be tarnished by the ghost of seditious wars of the past.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
What scenery in particular are you looking for?
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
Just a scenery pack. I figure I'd paint it up to go with the set we already painted.
Seems like a good pile of scifi bits, but considering how much Deadzone stuff I've got at this point...
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Well, I've got a bunch of doors and some Samaritan bits you can have if you want them, but the Strain bits and the guns I'm keeping.
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Post by: MangoMadness
Vokker Dragu or whatever his name was is the best wave 2 model as he is actually a good sized model, the rest are just crap, i wish i could get $2 each for them, I would probably be happy to get $1.
Actually, i might start giving them away for free when i sell other models just so i dont have to look at them ever again
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Post by: 455_PWR
Glad I bought two more promo sets after wave 2, they add so much more to the game. The market has completely dried up. They used to sell for around $15 a piece, now the only place to get a kickstarter set with promos cosistently is Noble knight, which is selling it for $250! They do pop up much cheaper on ebay from time to time. Imho they are still worth something, if folks want to sell them for a dollar I'd be happy to pay!
I wish I would have bought a resin set from the ks, I would love to have a resin Riddick.
The game was not bad (not the best, but not bad). The minis were cool, the scale issue really isn't that big of a deal for board game minis. The only issue was that we all thought the minis would be resin showcase quality for cheap, and they weren't. This didn't break the game for me.
I just wish McVey made rules for all the extra resin mercs, aliens, etc, he made and sold. I've got a slew of them laying around waiting to get used.
DaveC, do you have a copy of the AOS rules or any new unit rules to pass on to the community? If so we can keep the game alive as much as we can.
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Post by: DaveC
455_PWR wrote:
I wish I would have bought a resin set from the ks, I would love to have a resin Riddick.
zedmeister was talking about the AoS resins there was no option in the KS or afterwards to get the KS models in resin. I was lucky to get a few of them but not all from Mikes collection mostly the females that had a suffered most from shrinkage.
455_PWR wrote:
I just wish McVey made rules for all the extra resin mercs, aliens, etc, he made and sold. I've got a slew of them laying around waiting to get used.
DaveC, do you have a copy of the AOS rules or any new unit rules to pass on to the community? If so we can keep the game alive as much as we can.
The Bounty Dogs never got as far as rules AFAIK I only have rules for the Vanguard and Strain
Posting the rules is difficult they are owned or at least have rights over by 3 different parties (maybe 4) and all would have to agree. I have asked for permission to post them before but it was declined and I am still covered by my NDA so I won't be going against that.
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
455_PWR wrote:The game was not bad (not the best, but not bad). The minis were cool, the scale issue really isn't that big of a deal for board game minis. The only issue was that we all thought the minis would be resin showcase quality for cheap, and they weren't. This didn't break the game for me.
When you write "not bad", I'm assuming you're talking about minis quality and inclusion of board game components, as opposed to the rules, scenarios and playing experience, no? Or did you play your way through the scenarios?
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Post by: 455_PWR
DaveC, I completely understand. You should suggest to all four that the rules be made in a pdf format and sold on drivethroughrpg or wherever else for $5. They may not sell a ton, but those of us who bought the LE resins would love to try them out in a game, and I would gladly pay $5.
Did you get a resin of the not-Riddick Keegan Kor miniature? There were very few made as they only came in the resin Kickstarter set, which was quite limited (my understanding was the game was resin and you got all stretch goals in resin too!!) If so could you post a pic here?
JohnHwangDD, The resin minis are awesome, the plastic minis were great (but hard to clean, I didn't mind the size shenanigans... just the loss of detail on some of the smaller plastics), the rules weren't bad in my opinion. The core set is a steal for what it can be bought for at this time, whether for gameplay, the minis, or using the bases for infinity - they work very well for infinity! I have also played both 1st and 2nd editions. The second edition rules are more streamlined and less confusing. I like Sedition Wars enough that I bought two extra sets, every resin sold after it's release, and I'm not looking to sell it. It has a very unique theme/setting, unique gameplay, storyline, aesthetics, etc. The game reminds me of b-sieged or Deathwatch Overkill. It is a good, fun game (that my group has enjoyed playing through), BUT it is not the best game I have ever played (zombicide BP, wwx, KD, etc are up near that point... 40k used to be until the formation mess it has become). However, I own many games that aren't top tier games that I thoroughly enjoy.
Mike also reminds me of Poots... they are stellar guys who really care about the gaming community if you ever meet them. Money has dictated how both have made decisions in their games, but those tough spots aside, they are really good people at heart.
BTW, I have to say... I have seen your avatar for quite some time now, and I have to say it is awesome and makes me laugh everytime I see it. Kudos good sir
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
Thanks. I like the SW minis; I just don't like playing the game itself. For what I'd want to play with the stuff, I'd only need the KS extras, not the actual game itself.
Glad the avatar brings a smile to your face.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
The firebrand got rules for all models released at the time, they were in one of CMON's magazines and I think later released in free PDF?
But yeah, I've never heard of rules for bounty dogs.
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Post by: 455_PWR
That is correct! I bought 5 copies of that magazine to clip the cards, and have the pdf too. Right now we are missing rules for the bounty dog crew, the massive gnosis suit squad and character, and the awesome new strain minis. I believe the gnosis suits and some of the new strain were going to be in the first expansion that never came to be.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
Here's a site that has some resources for Sedition Wars, including cards for every KS figure that are formatted way better than the ones that came with the game-I use this guy's stuff for every game I possibly can, his rules summaries are awesome:
http://www.orderofgamers.com/games/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster/
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