Is pretty much delineated. Now it just remains to fill the void left by raising the superstructure platform about four inches.I already have ideas about adding another deck to the interior and with access to the rear of the titan in the mode of the FW Warlord That should fill the space nicely.
I have a suggestion for you, before you go to paint it.
Take a steel wire brush (manual one, that is) and brush the whole thing over, lightly. That should give it some texture on the smoother parts of the plastic- scratches and little holes suitable for a god-machine that's seen combat for thousands of years.
Well she's gonna have legs but we have to start with a single step (Groan!)
First the basics.... The Greaves
I'm using a 3D image provided by joazzz2 on Deviant art for my inspiration
One of the problems with the representation of many Imperial Titans I notice, especially those that CoD for detailing bitz, is the panels are not truncated. This causes a boxy square look that is æsthetically unpleasing.
Wow, this glorious monstrosity is really coming together! Great to see.
Desubot wrote: Jesus didn't realize the feet was baneblade sized.
The 3d design suffers from the common issue of overscaling the titan. Blackadder has a much more sensible scaling more inline with the FW titans, although a little larger due to some torso alterations. I think his scaling looks much closer to ideal. Still huge
I would suggest, for the legs, go with steel. See if you can't find a Hirth joint that's been made for making railings out of pipe- that should allow for both adjustability and strength, without having to wrench down on a pressure fitting.
Because remember, it's coming up on 20 lbs now. That's without the main guns or superstructure, without the arms, without the paint, or the detailing, or the interior devices (and you may yet want to put in a working plasma ball or something for the core), and without the legs.
At this point, stability is, I think, more important than weight- at least for the supporting structure.
I was scrolling down and was like "Woah, those legs are huge!". And then I saw them next to the titan, and realised they're about half of what they're going to be...
Well she's gonna have legs but we have to start with a single step (Groan!)
First the basics.... The Greaves
I think it's been 11 years since I've logged in to Dakka, but I just had to today. Please don't follow this picture for inspiration, PLEASE. Your project is absolutely amazing, but it would be an awful travesty if you made the legs like that. Infantry are supposed to be able embark / fight from / disembark from those legs.It's actually a core design feature of the whole thing. If you tilt the legs like that, it will also tilt the floors that the infantry have to stand on. And not by a little. It'd become difficult for them just to stand up inside, much less walk around. I'm not saying you need to model the interior of the legs the way you modeled the torso, but it would be a real shame if it looked like anyone who did ride inside the legs wouldn't be able to stand up.
And while I'm posting, I have had a question about the engineering section for a while. Why does the engineering section stop at the (for lack of a better description) top shoulder platform? There's a lot of space up there, buildings even, and I'm surprised you haven't modeled a hole in the shoulder platform so that the engineering section extends up another story or two. It would give space to model a truly massive reactor. It might have to be oblong, extending more in the Z axis than the X or Y axes. But I could see something like the coils on a plasma gun, extending upwards as if the plasma gun was held straight up. Just a thought.
I think the top would either run off the core reactor, or have a separate reactor of its own. Some Emperor class Titans from the GC era (like Dies Irae) are described as having no cathedral on top, so the design has to be universal enough to allow variation like this, and the primary reactor should be contained within the core titan.
Regarding the leg angle- the slant does look aesthetically better. Maybe the solution is to have tilted legs, but horizontal interior flooring? The walls of the interior would be sloped as a result.
I think it's been 11 years since I've logged in to Dakka, but I just had to today. Please don't follow this picture for inspiration, PLEASE. Your project is absolutely amazing, but it would be an awful travesty if you made the legs like that. Infantry are supposed to be able embark / fight from / disembark from those legs.It's actually a core design feature of the whole thing. If you tilt the legs like that, it will also tilt the floors that the infantry have to stand on. And not by a little. It'd become difficult for them just to stand up inside, much less walk around. I'm not saying you need to model the interior of the legs the way you modeled the torso, but it would be a real shame if it looked like anyone who did ride inside the legs wouldn't be able to stand up.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply and I hope the response is not too off putting but I've already played around with the greaves quite a bit combining the best features and adding modifications I deemed necessary (But nothing is etched in stone I hasten to add.)
First I do not hold with the Space Marines rattling around in the greaves trying to stand on a shifting floor with every step the Titan takes plus when the model is static say on a shelf I plan to display him in the classic Emperor pose with legs slightly spread, greaves at an angle to the ground/shelf for maximum stability.
A pose I'm sure a working Emperor would take when firing at an enemy. When you speak of Infantry I presume you mean Space Marines.... I'm not up on Titan lore but I was under the impression that they transported armoured combatants(?)
I plan to have my Marines held in place with harnesses as in the 'Drop Pod' model which would be the only way they could survive the walking jostling.
Once the Marines prepare to disembark the Titan can assume a stance that is more conducive to discharging the personnel.
And while I'm posting, I have had a question about the engineering section for a while. Why does the engineering section stop at the (for lack of a better description) top shoulder platform?
I've always felt the main body of the Emperor titan held all the business end of the of the vehicle; Command deck, Engineering, Reactors, Machinery.
The top hamper being reserved the worship of the Machine God Omnissiah or Deus Mechanicus the supernatural entity worshipped by the Tech-priests and other servants of the Adeptus Mechanicus as the embodiment and bestower of all knowledge and technology in the universe.
There's a lot of space up there, buildings even, and I'm surprised you haven't modeled a hole in the shoulder platform so that the engineering section extends up another story or two. It would give space to model a truly massive reactor. It might have to be oblong, extending more in the Z axis than the X or Y axes. But I could see something like the coils on a plasma gun, extending upwards as if the plasma gun was held straight up. Just a thought.
Other than the manufacture of the deck I've done little in planning the superstructure which will be a project almost as big as what has already been done. I do have a Skitarii crew and tech priests and Belisarius Cawl to inhabit the deck once completed but all that is far off even in the planning stage.
Right now I have the model sitting on the floor of my den. Even without legs it's two feet tall and I'm wondering what to do with it when it's done. We might be talking over a meter and a third tall when finished.
In 2nd edition Epic, the Imperator titan could transport Space Marines (or any other Imperial infantry you wanted to bung in there), but the intended transportees were Titan Tech-Guard. Skitarii, in other words. Perhaps they have magnetic shoes.
AndrewGPaul wrote: In 2nd edition Epic, the Imperator titan could transport Space Marines (or any other Imperial infantry you wanted to bung in there), but the intended transportees were Titan Tech-Guard. Skitarii, in other words. Perhaps they have magnetic shoes.
I had always suspected the troops carried in the greaves were in some sort of harness at least while the Titan was ambulating. It stands to reason that footing would be difficult when the floor is swinging 20 meters fore to aft a couple of times a minute or more. Likewise unarmoured troops would be pounded to a jelly if not secured down in some way.
my Skitarii will be sequestered in the upper deck Cathedral area barracks as befitting their exalted status of body guards for the Tech Priests elites.
I like the idea of having harnesses, maybe something like a rollercoaster ride would look good? You could have long rows of benches to seat whole squads on given the size.
My perception of the bulk of the greaves was seriously flawed and until I started on the second level structure was this apparent. The corner spires were too bulky and would have necessitated cutting down the central second level structure making the flying buttresses too small as well and perhaps unworkable. The biggest flaw was my persistent insistence on using the Sanctum Imperialis beautiful double doors as a focal point of the greaves This may or may not be workable......
Anyway I'm back on track with a minimum of hand-wringing and downtime. I frequently make errors taking the time to correct them is always a priority with me because good enough is Never Good Enough.
While working I happened to glance a the seeming pile of rubble in the corner of my workshop. A sad array of unfinished Emperor Titan parts that bear little resemblance to what may prove to be my best effort to date.........
Before I get too smug and self-satisfied I just repaired the interior of my Warlord. and I was surprised at the lengths my OCD drove me three or so years ago. As I contemplate doing an interior for my Emperor Titan I thought I'd refresh myself on my previous construction.
Over the years the glue had lost it's grip on the aluminum impregnated wall coatings I used for much of this model inside and out and pieces were rattling around inside. I found some two decks down in the Engineering bay.
Anyway once all put together I fired up the interior lighting (surprisingly it all functioned) and took these images so I don't have to disassemble it again until when and if I decide to upgrade the paint.
So here's five pictures of the Command deck and Tech Priest balcony replete with Altar to the Machine God, Omnissiah.
one of the hazards of working without a plan is you lead yourself down a primrose path only to find the portion you are working on does not fit with the rest of the project.
I have to estimate the height of the finished Emperor Titan and then figure out how tall each of the components need to be to give me a proper proportion.
I'm figuring the completed Emperor will now be a meter and a quarter tall since the lower legs fill the space between the feet and the hip. That leaves virtually no room for a thigh.
As it stands right now without the superstructure it is 33 inches (0.8382 meter) tall. and it still needs about 6 inches of thigh length minimum even if I put the knee joint directly above the topmost section of the greave.
Looks like a lot of people will be getting their wish that I should make it taller. Right now I'm figuring 240 scale feet (73.152 Scale Meters). 80 feet taller than the Warlord.
The left leg is covered with the basic skin and the proportions look about right. I'm toying with the idea of having the egress on the inner side of the greaves where it would make more sense rather than the front plus it would lend itself better to have the troops exit the greaves under the full protection of the Titan guards until they are formed up as a full company. Plus the inner toes would incorporate the descending stairs to the ground leaving the front toes uncluttered with the steps.
I think, tactically speaking, that front or outward facing egrii would be the best- Yes, you don't have physical cover from the legs, but I think the benefit of having unobstructed lines of fire, and movement, would outweigh that. Remember, if the doors are on the inside, they have to immediately make a right angle turn to advance, completely breaking any momentum they might have coming out.
With regard to the earlier questions about troops fighting from the legs; there is a superb White Dwarf article about the release of the Titans back when Epic: Space Marine was a thing. I'll see if I can scan it or take pictures. The story is told from the perspective of a "Tech-Guard", which were not Admech at the time, but rather Imperial soldiers who fought from titans, etc. The Admech have developed a lot since then. The story mentions that the Tech-Guard do actually have magnetic boots and they lock them into place. It's a stonkingly good little piece of fluff, so I'll try get a copy of it for you. Simply as inspiration.
I do love how you conceptualise design elements I'd probably never dream of, build them, then off-handedly scrap them and create something even better ...
Oh, and more of your "naked torso in the mirror" shots, please ...
Marines don't take cover! They charge forward protected by their faith in the Emperor! Doors to the front, sir, or the Inquisition will be dispatched post haste!
I do love how you conceptualise design elements I'd probably never dream of, build them, then off-handedly scrap them and create something even better ...
Oh, and more of your "naked torso in the mirror" shots, please ...
Wha!!!! I hadda go back to page 12 August 2017 to see what you're talk'n 'bout. anyway, enjoy.
JohnnyHell wrote: Marines don't take cover! They charge forward protected by their faith in the Emperor! Doors to the front, sir, or the Inquisition will be dispatched post haste!
With regard to the earlier questions about troops fighting from the legs; there is a superb White Dwarf article about the release of the Titans back when Epic: Space Marine was a thing. I'll see if I can scan it or take pictures. The story is told from the perspective of a "Tech-Guard", which were not Admech at the time, but rather Imperial soldiers who fought from titans, etc. The Admech have developed a lot since then. The story mentions that the Tech-Guard do actually have magnetic boots and they lock them into place. It's a stonkingly good little piece of fluff, so I'll try get a copy of it for you. Simply as inspiration.
That would be great but Imperial Soldiers and Skitarii with Magnetic boots I don't buy, Space Marines maybe as their suits are powered. Even so if they need harnesses for a pod drop they need them to keep from rattling around in a bouncy jouncy Imperial Walker greave.
JohnnyHell wrote: Marines don't take cover! They charge forward protected by their faith in the Emperor! Doors to the front, sir, or the Inquisition will be dispatched post haste!
With regard to the earlier questions about troops fighting from the legs; there is a superb White Dwarf article about the release of the Titans back when Epic: Space Marine was a thing. I'll see if I can scan it or take pictures. The story is told from the perspective of a "Tech-Guard", which were not Admech at the time, but rather Imperial soldiers who fought from titans, etc. The Admech have developed a lot since then. The story mentions that the Tech-Guard do actually have magnetic boots and they lock them into place. It's a stonkingly good little piece of fluff, so I'll try get a copy of it for you. Simply as inspiration.
That would be great but Imperial Soldiers and Skitarii with Magnetic boots I don't buy, Space Marines maybe as their suits are powered. Even so if they need harnesses for a pod drop they need them to keep from rattling around in a bouncy jouncy Imperial Walker greave.
Skitarii have metal legs, they could magnetise the lot! I do prefer the idea of half a Chapter's worth of Marines pouring out though...
Logic would dictate they exit the rear. I've compromised and allowed for a inner thigh exit. to have them exit to the front piecemeal may appeal to the 40K genera but not to common sense. After all we're not exiting a one shot beach landing craft.
I think we all have slightly different ideas of how, exactly, the troops in the greaves are utilized.
You seem to be imagining them as an occupying force, deployed after the Titan has taken up a position, but might still be under fire. Sort of using the Titan as a FOE.
Me, I see the Titan's leg troops as Breachers- the Titan kicks into a building or city wall, plants its foot, and disgorges troops as exactly a landing craft, with the troops rushing out into an active firefight.
JohnnyHell wrote:Corner turrets on the upper deck look phenomenal!
Yeah I've reinstalled the turrets; actually I forgotten I made them months ago.
Anvildude wrote:I think we all have slightly different ideas of how, exactly, the troops in the greaves are utilized.
You seem to be imagining them as an occupying force, deployed after the Titan has taken up a position, but might still be under fire. Sort of using the Titan as a FOE.
Me, I see the Titan's leg troops as Breachers- the Titan kicks into a building or city wall, plants its foot, and disgorges troops as exactly a landing craft, with the troops rushing out into an active firefight.
First FOE??? I found 36 acronyms but none seem to fit...... I hate acronyms, they are suppose to save what; time, typing, space, breath?Invariably they have to be explained anyway so where is the savings?
I see the greaves as a massive troop transport pretty much as you describe but the models I've seen including the one I am following have a single door that only one or two troops can exit at a time; easy pickings for an alert foe, A company disgorged quickly through massive double doors can bring the fight to the enemy as a cohesive force plus the spraddled legs in the classic titan stance lend themselves to an easy exit down the inner side toe ramp/steps.
ignores the problem completely but in the scene at the 4:43 minute mark shows the exit door easily 20 feet above the ground with at least a 6 foot drop to the top surface of the front toe.
From what I remember of the old Apocalypse rules released by GW, they should have doors on multiple sides, to deploy in multiple directions. That could solve the issue by making a door everywhere...?
It seems I am again in the situation where I cannot compromise this construction by taking short cuts.
Originally this thread was a tutorial on how to make a quick and gratifying Emperor Titan out of recycled plastic debris and GW bitz plus some plasticard. I expected to bring the thing in for about a hundred bucks American.
Starting with the waffle lenses and a few items purchased on Amazon The project has now run into about twice as much which still isn't bad but far beyond what I hoped for.
In the series of images presented here is My solution to a problem that has vexed me since beginning; how am I to reconcile the leg joints? So here's my solution......
A ball joint ankle. In the two images above I made a cup recess for a two inch wood drawer pull ( A design I made for my scratch built Warhound years ago) so who's to say, "You have to keep teaching an old dog the same old tricks."
By carefully cutting out and stacking the waffle pieces and reinforcing them periodically I managed to build a close tolerance socket fit for the drawer pull knob. This will allow the foot to pivot front to back and side to side and any combination in between
The upper part of the assembly captures the ball and with luck provide sufficient friction to keep the ball in position by clamping it in place. Otherwise I'll have to reinforce the cup with A4 epoxy resin as I did on the Warhound.
Yeah, that's me. Five years ago I somehow lost all my bookmarks and relied on replies to get them back as at the time I was posting on 15 different forums. Apparently I never heard from 40K on Line so they got lost....... Needless to say I've finished the Warlord (at least well beyond what is done in my last post on that forum). Dakka, Warseer, BoLS are just about the only forums left from the originals. I drop fourms that do not seem to be interested in what I post e.g. I'm about to drop BoLS.
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Gold is where you find it but from the moment I saw a couple of these in my neighbor's recycling I knew I would some day have a use for them. All along I was thinking some FW/GW futuristic Plasma weapon for a big Titan.
But the unique and unusual design works well with my plans to build a troop transport greave interior right down to recesses for the huge actuators that stabilize the foot and the levels to hang the troopers shoulder harnesses when their being transported.
Its been five days, I need my next hit of Blackadder awesomeness! D:
Seriously though, whatre you up to? Silence for this long either means a distraction (hopefully a positive one) or something *really* cool coming our way soon... which one is it?
I modified the side toes to be shorter than the front and rear toes for what I consider aesthetic purposes and I made the ramp a bit shallower than on the image as well again because I think it looks better.
You have the patience of a saint, replicating so many parts. Amazing as always though, and nicely paced updates so that we can all recover from and pick our jaws from the floor in between..
I've been requested to provide Scale for the Emperor Titan. Unfortunately the legs are not attached to the pelvis, in point of fact the upper leg segment has yet to be designed. But one lower leg is avail so for reference we can compare it to a standard Space Marine Trooper and to a Warlord Titan that I just happen to have.....
That leg on it's own is just ridiculous, serious amount of plastic - even with your ingenious waffle core, this will no doubt be a hefty model when finished
It's time to put my theories to the test. Yesterday began designing what I hope will be a movable leg system that will use friction locks to maintain the pose.
The PVC pipe couplings have "O" ring compression gaskets that will lock the upper thigh in place yet allow me to change the position in seconds.
I'm telling you man, shoulda gone with steel for the leg supports. Keep it from being top-heavy, be sure it'll stand up under the weight. But we'll see how it goes, I guess.
It is my hope to have fully articulated legs on this beastie although I will not go to the effort I went to with my Warlord giving the legs a "Toe in" and "Toe Out" capability. That was much too much and although workable I have never employed that feature when posing my Warlord.
Finally I can get a glimpse of what I have been working toward for these past few weeks; with the hip connect scaled to size, and the upper leg finally attached at the knee. I can now make some inroads towards an actual knee structure. I am now thinking of cutting the knee joint into the upper tier of the greave. which I believe will look much better.
Very very nice! It's all coming together nicely! I'm sure when it is mounted that everything will look fine. Add some weight at the bottom if need be, but very very very very niiiiice work so far!
Ha! Well I wanted to set up the model to see if the sizes were in scale but the upper torso was too heavy to suspend over the lower torso and legs. I instead Photo shopped a quick composite to present here. First the image of the torso and the legs and then the green screen composite. The legs right now are like a house of cards so mounting the body on them is not possible.
My local hobby supplier has let me down and I cannot get the large amount of strip styrene of a particular size I require. Normally I cut my own but even that did not produce enough.
Are you planning on keeping the very square look of the 3d render? I have to say, it looks unpleasantly boxy, and not in keeping with the other titan designs (even the Lucius pattern Titans have more of an angular look, rather than boxy). The original model also had rounded leg armour for the crew areas, as seen in this image.
I think the minarets are a nice addition to the design, but the lack of curves really hurts the aesthetics. Especially when you went to such great effort to make a beautiful, curved head in line with Mars-pattern Titans.
Adding a curved plate to the front three sides, with a curved recess to accomodate the toe, would look much better I think. I appreciate this is significantly more difficult to do though.
Well you can make yours in any shape you want but I always found the inverted trashcan/flower pot shaped greaves on the Emperor lacking panache and the Helsreach Inquisitor animation sealed the deal for me. The flying buttresses and staging decks all go to make this the apex of Emperor design.
Of course, it is your Titan to build as you wish I didn't mean that you should use the legs of the old design, but something between the two.
So if you take the design you have currently, instead of leaving the panel with the three gothic arches flat, you could curve it out somewhat, a bit like a church apse at the end of the nave. That would keep the feel of the Helreach film version, but prevent the legs from looking so blocky compared to the rest of the design.
Here is an example of an apse. Now, for your leg, I think the curve could be far more gentle, rather than semi-circular, and when viewed from above, the sides probably shouldn't form a circle. But having some curve would smooth out the whole thing, and make the design look more three dimensional. It would also look like an applied armour plate to protect the crew-hold behind. So basically a much flatter version of the apse below on the front three sides.
I can't see the curved approach working on this. Given the gothic detailing shown in the video and Mr Bs work thus far, the flat expanse of plastic is not going to be a flat expanse of plastic for long. Have faith in the Master of Engineers, he shalt delivereth a machine of purity and pure destruction. The Xenos will quake in the their heretical boots...
How finicky are you going to get with the detail? I mean, the Warhound can get away with some utilitarianism- smooth armour, with the occasional trim piece- but this is a literal walking cathedral. It's gonna need crennelations and quatrefoils and rosettes and gargoyles and plinths and alcoves and eaves and finnials and...
Tyr13 wrote: ... So, its been two weeks now... I have to admit, Im starting to get a bit worried. Everything alright at Blackadder Mansion? :/
It may have toppled over on him and he is trapped. Too bad he never got the vocalizes working on the warhound or it could tell us little Timmy fell in the well.......blackie got nabbed by the cops for buying too many lighting panels.
The tedium of making dozens of these structures; revising, chopping and rebuilding better representatives of them seemed like not the most interesting aspect of this build.
I finally have enough, eighteen, for the first tier of the greaves and, with slight modifications, I have devised of a better way to produce the second tier,eight in all, that is less labor intensive.
Couple that with an abscessed tooth, a root canal, and a mild case of the flu made me less than amenable to communicating my meager progress with my peers.
The castle portion of this construct will necessitate a lot of repetitive work and no I am not going to "cast" or 3D print any portion of the requisite components. In my warped OCD way I consider that cheating
Of course I am hypocritically not above using bitz.
Anyway thank you all for the concern about my well-being. I should be back in the groove after I finish modifying the rest of the eighteen above.
Uggg, root canals. I managed to dodge one for a chipped tooth I have, but the prospect was certainly not one I was looking forward to. Your progress is looking good so far!
To be a bit self serving I'm feeling much better and the past few day have been most productive. The gabled naves in the first level greaves give the appearance of homogeneity even though they aren't exactly the same.
Once he has a crotch and hips it’ll look fuller and more like your inspiration. Stunning work. I kno what you mean by “appearance of homogeneity” - I’ve found that scratch building is often about making parts that appear to look the same when together, even if every piece is sliiiightly different.
JohnnyHell wrote: .........I know what you mean by “appearance of homogeneity” - I’ve found that scratch building is often about making parts that appear to look the same when together, even if every piece is sliiiightly different.
Yeah, well we're talking about FW products so inaccuracy of replication is considered as character.
JohnnyHell wrote: .........I know what you mean by “appearance of homogeneity” - I’ve found that scratch building is often about making parts that appear to look the same when together, even if every piece is sliiiightly different.
Yeah, well we're talking about FW products so inaccuracy of replication is considered as character.
Haha very true - I’ve never bothered replicating the misformed, bubbled casting look though! :-D
A flurry of activity this week finally putting the finishing basic touches on the spaced corner greave armour and casting the hip joints with aircraft grade industrial resin.
I'm particularly proud of these hips and knees as they are an inch wide and barely a quarter in thick but they will bear the weight of bowling ball mass of the torso and a lot more but still not give a clunky appearance. Once the Hips are mounted I can add decorative gewgaws and details and the huge hydraulic cylinders that will stiffen the structure so it can be posed........
I've decided to make the troop egress through the rear of the greaves and under the foot pad area as opposed to the traditional staircase down the front toes although I shall be keeping the center doors on the three sides as well but the design of the Epic Emperor was poorly thought out and made no real allowance for the purported troop transport alluded to in the rules and text description
Very nice! Fully support your decision; creative liberties must be taken! Anyways, very nice design, it’s truly amazing to see how it started to how it is now.
Of the questions I get most often is; where do I get these crazy ideas and those that question my sanity, but is really it's just my questioning how would something like these Titans actually work.
In the images below there are actuators that seem to serve no function and if they did they would be far too small to be effective.
Drawing on my aircraft experience I liken the actuators here to the landing gear on jumbo jets such as B747 and L1011 airliners. In particular the 747 has landing gear struts that are as thick as a man's torso. How much larger would the walking hip and knee actuators have to be on an Emperor Titan to be adequate to support the mass and function as a real mechanism would need to.
The biggest problem I have with most of the scratchbuilt Titans is the hydraulics when represented are totally too small in diameter to do the requisite job they are supposed to do.
So the next few posts will be dedicated to the walking actuators and hopefully I can make them sufficiently large enough to be believable.
My thought on the size of those actuators is they use materiel and manufacturing processes tbat, while stagnant in their time, are still way ahead of us.
Anvildude wrote: Bleah. I think it's just people not realizing how mechanics work. Like folks making tank gun barrels that are super thin.
Huh? In 40k, they tend to make tank barrels too thick! Isn't the Leman Russ battle cannon a 200+mm monstrosity that is basically a massive gun-howitzer?
I am pretty sure Titans use a lot of anti-grav tech in order to function. I think this is hinted at in some sources. Smaller actuators in that context could work, but bigger will likely look more balanced.
I've raised quite a few hackles with my last post especially on FB where I pointed out the inadequacies of some renderings of 40K machina.
Part of the charm of many Forge World vehicles is the anachronistic technologies; battle tanks that look like they would be at home on a WWI battle field. Treaded tanks that compete with a-grav skimmers. hulking great bipedal automata that stretch the limit of credulity.
Apparently I have crossed the line by attempting to rationalize the designs to make them appear functional in the real world.
Don't get me wrong, I love the FW genre for the charm of the components but
Need I remind you that the game can be played with coloured shoe boxes, blocks of wood and chess pieces if realism isn't necessary. No one needs to spend a couple of weeks salary on a highly stylized ten kilo chunk of resin to field a Titan.
That said I offer my version of the leg actuator system.
As some have pointed out, the shock strut of the landing gear is a closed passive hydraulic system relying on compressed air and hydraulic fluid to provide a metered cushion for landing. Forge World provides no source of hydraulic pressure in any of their models and it is the cross section area of the cylinder that determines how adequately the mechanism protects the mechanical vitals of the machine. Land a 747 with a collapsed strut and you are likely to incur structural damage necessitating a very detailed inspection not to mention numerous lawsuits from irate passengers with suddenly occurring compressed vertebra.
My shock struts will provide indication that the situation exists and allowances have been made for the problem plus they will serve as a function by locking the knee in any configuration other than a straight legged stance.
Seconded. I love that you put thought into the why as well as the how you build things.
Most GW stuff is hilariously designed and would all fail all kinds of physics tests. Not to mention a “pistol” is the size of a large real world carbine - with that as a basis I don’t understand why people would expend their energies defending stylistic, deliberately distorted designs by someone else. Each to their own. Keep making the awesome!
I went through these evolutions with my warlord until I got it right (To my eye anyway) lengthening and shortening the upper and lower legs about three times in total each.
Brave indeed . Still, the ability to adapt halfway through makes the process more interesting, and if your warlord is anything to go by, will result in a very good looking model.
Love your work, nothing wrong with using RL physics/engineering to make it as complete as possible. It's your model, do what works for you! Plus it looks great which is a huge bonus for us ^_^
Anyway I knew there were actuators there but I fought the temptation to make the toes movable as the effort I put into movable toes on my Warlord was pretty much for nothing. I rarely pose it with the toes flexed.
Another tidbit of detail is the corner spires have pointy bits on both ends.
The Devil is in the details. Since I found out last week courtesy of HelsReach 11 that the corner spires are pointy on both ends; Egad!!!!! I've come up with a way (I think) to make the legs pose-able to a degree. The image in my last post shows internal cylinders that while I know they had to be there. None the less; it is nice to have verification.
I've also worked on the Upper leg housing and made the foot pad ankle gimbal system a reality that I believe will be strong enough to support the 10 kilos of mass this model will ultimately have.
Right now I am just toying with the components to see what can be done.... I may have to scrap the idea of the internal mop handle for a more utilitarian center column.
I had the same idea when i saw the Titan in Helsreach, I will follow your topic with interest, it looks really good for now, can't wait for the beast to be finished ! Good luck with it
Can you not run a piece of PVC the same size as the mop handle down the middle where the Mop Stick was? I like the aesthetic of the ridges on the mop handle piece.
Dynas wrote: Can you not run a piece of PVC the same size as the mop handle down the middle where the Mop Stick was? I like the aesthetic of the ridges on the mop handle piece.
See, this is why I should post more images than is necessary.
I used a wood dowel for the center post and wrapped the dowel with 0.020 inch sheet styrene so I can glue styrene pieces to the center column. The mop handle is just there for eye candy. The recesses in the handle coincide nicely with the toilet tissue spools that will serve as actuators. None of these components will serve any practical function.
The above view is of the internal structure where I hope to be able to house twenty to forty troop harnesses and still have room for the stabilizing cylinders
The view above is of the rear disembarkment doors which I feel are much more practical that front mounted doors as it give the troops the ability to form up before confronting their adversaries. Not in the best Imperial tradition I know but definitely saner.
The friction gimbel works as designed and I am hoping with the 20 odd pounds of Emperor Titan they will provide the requisite stability. The stabilizers may offer assistance there.
This structure will slide out of the greave to reveal the inner transport chamber and the mechanical walking devices/components. I'm going to be hard pressed finding room for all that needs to be here and still have room for activation.
I worked yesterday evening into the early morning hours to assemble the working joints of both legs albeit with temporary diameter screws 6-32 until I found out if the design is viable.
In the basic pose, legs straight, the inner side toes had just the right amount of clearance between the greaves at the most minimum width adjustment of the pelvic block.
I had made allowances for up to an inch per leg but it wasn't needed. If the model could actually walk, the inner toes would clear each other with each step.
Next I adjusted the pose with one foot forward as if stepping out. The adjustment was made gingerly as all the friction axles aren't in place yet so the knee joints and hip sockets are rather stiff in appearance,
The dual axle hip sockets worked as planned, allowing the legs to be placed one behind the other as would be necessary if this contraption could walk as a true biped instead of a baby's rocking waddle which would look comical on a battlefield.
Again the limited range of motion due to the small temporary hardware limited the viability of the pose. With the right diameter hardware the poses will have a more fluid appearance.
That is looking damn impressive. The ability to abduct the hip joints is seriously impressive engineering. Is there any rotation along the leg? Ah! The feet are on a ball joint, that would hypothetically permit rotation. (I mention rotation because without it a walker cannot change direction... I know you are aiming for the realism factor )
Haighus wrote: That is looking damn impressive. The ability to abduct the hip joints is seriously impressive engineering. Is there any rotation along the leg? Ah! The feet are on a ball joint, that would hypothetically permit rotation.
Overall it looks fantastic.
Shame on me; it never dawned on me tha that the foot could be rotated....... but that would necessitate the greave would have to rotate as well........
Haighus wrote: That is looking damn impressive. The ability to abduct the hip joints is seriously impressive engineering. Is there any rotation along the leg? Ah! The feet are on a ball joint, that would hypothetically permit rotation.
Overall it looks fantastic.
Shame on me; it never dawned on me tha that the foot could be rotated....... but that would necessitate the greave would have to rotate as well........
Damn!
Based on the way your greaves are built, there is some play for the foot to be rotated without impinging on the greave. As only a small amount of rotation would be needed for the titan to change direction (and these things are hardly going to be expected to change direction suddenly) I don't think rotating greaves would be necessary. Any greater manouevrebility could be obtained using lateral shuffling if necessary, as the hip abduction and adduction allows for that. The titan would generally be striding straight ahead, so I doubt it would make much aesthetic difference to have the greaves match the foot rotation.
In other words, the only potential modification needed for foot rotation would be actuators allowing a small degree of rotation at the ankles?
Automatically Appended Next Post: This is if you want rotation of course! It is really optional for the look of the thing. The range of movement is already more than most such models get!
Blackadder, I think you underestimate how many of us are checking in every day to see what you’ve created in each step of the project. Your work is amazing!
I don't get it; have I complained about not getting replies? I went back two pages to check. I for the most part get more responses from Dakka Dakka than many of the other forums I frequent. I haven't gotten one on BOLS for months it seems although this last post did bring out one
Anyway here's an update and thanks for all the replies; I really appreciate them.
In No Particular Order:
Yesterday I replaced the temporary 6-32 hardware with 10-32 screws and this morning I beefed up the third tier to receive the full 10 kilos of weight it must endure for decades at the least. This little top hat style construction bears easily twice that even without reinforcement so I'm certain even with the top hamper it will serve.
I'm rather surprised at the interior of the second tier not needing further bracing but I'll add some anyway now that I have a good idea of the direction I'll be pursuing finishing up the articulation mechanisms.
The_Blackadder wrote: I don't get it; have I complained about not getting replies? I went back two pages to check. I for the most part get more responses from Dakka Dakka than many of the other forums I frequent. I haven't gotten one on BOLS for months it seems although this last post did bring out one
I haven't been on BoLS in months since the admins there basically killed the forum. Your thread was the only thing keeping me there till I found out you were on Dakka too!
and the axle sleeves for the knee and 'medial hamstring tendon' actuator (For want of a technical term) need to be pared down and encased.
Looking good! The term would be knee flexor actuator The opposing actuator would be the extensor. With your knee being a simple hinge, it won't need any of the medial and lateral stabilisers like a human knee that can provide a small degree of abduction/adduction or rotation at the knee (depending on the angle of flexion).
Lovely work as always. I'd also like to back your placement of the 'foot' egress doors. There are, literally, thousands, if not TENS of thousands (hundreds of?) lost STC patterns. Who is to say the "standard" pattern isn't the more common, and sensible, one...lost to the ages?
Be sure and give your STC Pattern a good name and background, Arch-Magus.
So the think with building with matrices and strong geometric shapes is that, as long as properly constructed, greatly increase the overall strength.
You inadvertently picked the strongest possible building material you could use for s project like this. the only way you could have more structural integretity is if they were triangles.
Love the work brother.
You could always cross brace (literally in a X) as it effectively makes 4 triangles. It doesn’t look like you need it here.
Wow. cant wait to see it done and painted. Are you going to put a thin "floor piece" on the inside of those lower legs chambers so you can actually place models inside it?
After a bit over a year it is beyond gratifying to sit in front of this construction and gingerly assemble the dozens of components that make up imperius Rex (Not it's name but what came to me yesterday evening when assembling the legs. "First you have to vacuum the floor and dust the furniture" was my better half's injuncture when I proposed to display this creation on the rug in front of the TV. (lest it be damaged if it topples over)
My primary concern was ameliorated when it stood without the aid of something to lean against.
A thing of beauty. Hips look a bit thin but I assume they are using some sort of “space metal”. Amazing and super impressive work. I have enjoyed following this for many months and it’s pretty awesome to see it standing like this
Ssgt Carl wrote: A thing of beauty. Hips look a bit thin but I assume they are using some sort of “space metal”. Amazing and super impressive work. I have enjoyed following this for many months and it’s pretty awesome to see it standing like this
The hips need to be fleshed out (groan) Most titans of this type have two spindly looking tubular thigh structures which would be inadequate for my purposes. Since this at the moment is only the basic structure there is a lot of detail planned to build up the hips and pelvis substantially.
Right now I am just pleased that the structure can maintain the weight of the upper structure.
This beast is so magnificent! A true god-machine in the ....plastic . You need to send photos to Forgeworld and tell them you got tired of waiting for them to get off their butts and make one. Now you can spend the $5,000 on something else.
The process was relatively painless although there were a lot of precision cutting to do I watched old reruns of the Monty Python series while doing the work and the time went swiftly. I never tire of their skits.
Personally, I'd add even more detail. Like, little dags, bits of moulding, tiny little arcs and alcoves and flashing and fleur-de-lis and rondels and just... make it look like a cathedral. Maybe even find some monopose Marines or Admech or something and glue them on as bas reliefs or effigies- like, put in wall tombs of past techpriests and stuff. Things to show that this is a millennia-old object of veneration and religion, even more than it is a war machine.
Not going to lie, weapons is the part I am most interested to see. You take so much care to keep things plausible, I really am looking forward to seeing a gun that is the size of an Airbus.
Sorry to be doling these updates out in dribs and drabs but I want to show the internal structure of these yokes so those who follow can adapt the construction to their projects.
The yoke as you can see is a simple basic structure and I use the geometric forms to cut the angles precisely.
Whilst at present the structure looks somewhat crude. A bit of judicious sanding will bring everything into line for a lightweight strong structure that can handle the one kilo weight of each gun...........
Catwalks on the guns would be *amazing*!
Though youd also need some kind of access from the shoulder... could be interesting to see how you engineer a connection someone could feassibly climb down without falling to their death.
Whoa I made a real mistake posting the picture of the gatling gun. Everyone thinks that I built it. That weapon was built for Odin Warbringer, the two meter tall Warlord scratchbuilt by BullfrogUK.
It is one of the arms I am considering making for my Imperator but I am only starting the build. I posted it because I liked the catwalks though I not too enamored with the ammo belt. Sorry for the confusion.
If not, may I suggest a Volcano Cannon and a Turbo Battering Ram(Big O style, for extra points)?
I'm a fan of the classic Plasma and Hellstorm cannon combo. Leave destroying other titans to the escorts, almost nothing is equivalent to an Emperor class, so it can focus on the important work of wiping out armies of lesser troops
The ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit and would be super difficult to make. I vote that, but maybe restyled along the lines of the new Knight plasma weapon?
JohnnyHell wrote: The ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit and would be super difficult to make. I vote that, but maybe restyled along the lines of the new Knight plasma weapon?
Blackadder made a stunning attempt with the head of the Emperor though, so I have complete faith that he could make an excellent plasma weapon, even with lots of curves!
I think making the weapon less bulbous and, er, phallic, probably would be a good design choice.
If not, may I suggest a Volcano Cannon and a Turbo Battering Ram(Big O style, for extra points)?
I'm a fan of the classic Plasma and Hellstorm cannon combo. Leave destroying other titans to the escorts, almost nothing is equivalent to an Emperor class, so it can focus on the important work of wiping out armies of lesser troops
Isn't that the loadout for an Imperator rather than a Warmonger though? Warmonger should have a vengeance laser and big missiles.
JohnnyHell wrote: The ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit and would be super difficult to make. I vote that, but maybe restyled along the lines of the new Knight plasma weapon?
Blackadder made a stunning attempt with the head of the Emperor though, so I have complete faith that he could make an excellent plasma weapon, even with lots of curves!
I think making the weapon less bulbous and, er, phallic, probably would be a good design choice.
Does the, "Ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit" have a name or an image. I'm not well versed on alternate weapons so pictures would be a big help.
If not, may I suggest a Volcano Cannon and a Turbo Battering Ram(Big O style, for extra points)?
I'm a fan of the classic Plasma and Hellstorm cannon combo. Leave destroying other titans to the escorts, almost nothing is equivalent to an Emperor class, so it can focus on the important work of wiping out armies of lesser troops
Isn't that the loadout for an Imperator rather than a Warmonger though? Warmonger should have a vengeance laser and big missiles.
Yes, traditionally. However, the very first image in the thread is an Imperator with that loadout, so I imagine the weapons choices are fairly fluid The names don't mean that much anyway- they are both Emperor-class Titans, with the same chassis. None of the other Titan classes are divided by loadout any more.
JohnnyHell wrote: The ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit and would be super difficult to make. I vote that, but maybe restyled along the lines of the new Knight plasma weapon?
Blackadder made a stunning attempt with the head of the Emperor though, so I have complete faith that he could make an excellent plasma weapon, even with lots of curves!
I think making the weapon less bulbous and, er, phallic, probably would be a good design choice.
Does the, "Ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit" have a name or an image. I'm not well versed on alternate weapons so pictures would be a big help.
whalemusic360 wrote:I'm assuming the one on this fella.
Is coming up Roses. Not only is it the right size but when temporarily positioned on the Munitions arm it was the perfect height so it could be arranged without shimming.
JohnnyHell wrote: The ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit and would be super difficult to make. I vote that, but maybe restyled along the lines of the new Knight plasma weapon?
Blackadder made a stunning attempt with the head of the Emperor though, so I have complete faith that he could make an excellent plasma weapon, even with lots of curves!
I think making the weapon less bulbous and, er, phallic, probably would be a good design choice.
Does the, "Ludicrous bulbous plasma weapon was iconic on the plastic kit" have a name or an image. I'm not well versed on alternate weapons so pictures would be a big help.
I am pretty sure its just a Plasma Annihilator that has a different design, maybe early 30k plasma before it got into 40k style we see today. Per wiki, they only ever have Hellstorm Cannon and Plasma Annihilator as their arms. Hull mounted weapons vary.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperator-class_Titan
The one weapon I have fallen in love with since I first became aware of the 40K Universe was the dual plasma Annihilator. Which was the main weapon of the Stormblade and the Warhound. It was the first scratchbuilt large weapon I built besides the relatively simple Volcano cannon and various main battle cannons for my Baneblades.
That said I am going to try to build the fantastic over/under main battle annihilator for my Imperator as my first project. I believe this to be the most difficult of all the Emperor/Warlord weapons, the others being simple barrel shaped projectile and energy types. Oh, and I gotta make a claw.... if only for my own amusement (No snide commentary please.)
So here we have the central frame of the piece 14 inches (36,0 CM) long (subject to change) of a weapon I judge, at the present, will be between 18 and 20 inches long when finished.
The one weapon I have fallen in love with since I first became aware of the 40K Universe was the dual plasma Annihilator. Which was the main weapon of the Stormblade and the Warhound. It was the first scratchbuilt large weapon I built besides the relatively simple Volcano cannon and various main battle cannons for my Baneblades.
Did you mean the Plasma Blastgun?
My favorite Warhound weapon combo is the Vulcan Mega-Bolter and the Plasma Blastgun!
But the Plasma Blastgun pales in comparison to the fury that is the Plasma Annihilator!
My favorite Warhound weapon combo is the Vulcan Mega-Bolter and the Plasma Blastgun!
But the Plasma Blastgun pales in comparison to the fury that is the Plasma Annihilator!
Really, they called it a Plasma Blastgun? Sounds kind of Orky; anyway just as there are all sorts of calibers for projectile weapons there are all energy levels for Plasma weapons I'm sure. I've even seen Space Marines with hand-held pistol-style Plasma weapons.
I seriously think you should rethink mounting this thing on it: Granted, no-one would ever play against you, and your titan would probably melt, but it'd be glorious!
While measuring up the Sunburst Annihilator I compared my two scratchbuilts for size and relative scale. Overall I am pleased that my Lucius Warlord isn't very overshadowed.
May I have your assistance? This is about 20" long, closed, and can expand open (it's a squirt gun). Based on all of your excellent research, where do you feel this would 'fit', Titan-Scale-wise?
Briancj wrote: May I have your assistance? This is about 20" long, closed, and can expand open (it's a squirt gun). Based on all of your excellent research, where do you feel this would 'fit', Titan-Scale-wise?
Spoiler:
Thanks for your help!
--Brian
It looks like it could be a gatling gun for a Reaver or quite possibly for a Warlord although the the barrels appear too thin for a Warlord.
I would caution on using toys to complement your models because in the end that is what they look like.
The 'gun' appears to have five barrels; four surrounding the fifth which is not the arrangement of a Reaver Gatling gun.
20 inches long is too long for a Reaver weapon IMHO. About ten inches would be even too long but I would have to see how it appears.
BTW If you were motionless in space as opposed to relative to the earth and a planet the size of Earth slammed into you at 18.5 miles per second. Splat!
Depending on the type of plastic, you could probably part it out pretty effectively.
The blue bit especially- the sight could be re-purposed into some sort of industrial stack, and the rest of it would fit alright as a mechanical core of some sort- pumping station, core drill, that sort of thing.
Yeah, I know this is pretty dry stuff, especially when I'm not even sure the D@mned thing will even work out or even if I got the scale right but getting there is half the fun as the saying goes.
Dynas wrote: Speaking of cost. If you are willing to share, how much $$$ and Time have you put into this custom build so far? What do you estimate it will end at?
I've spread the cost out over a year and a quarter at an average of about $30 dollars a month so under $500 dollars.
Due to a bit of luck and some overzealousness I made this coil core literally twice as long as it needed to be so I now have the option of building two of these extremely futuristic weapons.
The problem is; Are they too slick looking for my lumbering Imperator?
Also the gun mount I made may be too crude for the Sunburst Plasma Blaster....... Does anyone else think that name is more appropo for a 1960s bubblegum jawbreaker?
Anyway I've managed to wrap the first strand of coil material around the core and am letting it dry overnight before installing all the almost one hundred strands for these two Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters..whatever
Perfect Organism wrote: How do you get the coils to wrap around the structure? Heat gun, or just slow pressure and a big curve to work on?
The 1/8th inch rods bend easily around the curve. but to increase the speed of production I bend the rods by hand around a one inch dowel first to impart a permanent curve before gluing. I am trying to cut down on waste by doing a quarter of the circumference at a time instead of bridging the gaps.
Perfect Organism wrote: How do you get the coils to wrap around the structure? Heat gun, or just slow pressure and a big curve to work on?
The 1/8th inch rods bend easily around the curve. but to increase the speed of production I bend the rods by hand around a one inch dowel first to impart a permanent curve before gluing. I am trying to cut down on waste by doing a quarter of the circumference at a time instead of bridging the gaps.
I was talking about where one end of the rod you are bending meets the other end of the rod. Are you just so precise that they go together seamlessly (in which case I applaud your skills even more), or do you have another trick or plan for covering the spot.
Theophony wrote: I was talking about where one end of the rod you are bending meets the other end of the rod. Are you just so precise that they go together seamlessly (in which case I applaud your skills even more), or do you have another trick or plan for covering the spot.
The initial rod, the only strand in place now was installed as a single piece and is indeed precisely square to the lateral axis of the weapon. It is imperative to have this master coil square so the collars at either end of the coil will be perpendicular to the longitudinal axis otherwise they will look sloppy. Once I established this single precise strand each subsequent wrap will be made in four segments to save material with a single strand every inch or so to maintain the proper spacing. When I begin the wrapping process I'll show the interim steps to make this explanation visually clear.
The weapon has four channels running the length of the 'barrel' which is at odds with other plasma type weapons where the coils are continuous. These channels add a lot to the styling of the weapon and were added by the artist to mask the overall blandness of the coils if otherwise. I can see the need artistically but the design is compromised in the practical sense as the coils would build intensity and power with each wrap as would an actual linear accelerator.
Hrm... I would suggest going with a different style of building here. Start with the fingers, and the joints, then figure out how you'd need to build the hand portion to fit them, I'd say.
The first joint indicated by the axles will be where the finger joins the palm so three joints all together to the fingertips except for the thumb which will have two.
One of the duties of posting these updates is to show my failures as well as triumphs.
I've wasted a few days on trying to make the coils on this Plasma Blaster and I am not enthused with the result so before I try a different approach I'll show what did not work out.
Note: The rods are staggered only as a demonstration. When they are glued they will be flush with the edge.
Of course I shall have to bend these to the shape of the coils.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Bend Angle Radius:
The relationship between the strength of a material and the amount of curve that can be imparted to the the material before the fatigue point where it will crack instead of take the curve.
In aircraft it applies to aluminum alloys etc and the metal fatigues when too much stress crystallizes the area being bent to a point of material failure.
Boiling water or a hair dryer should be all the heat you need, honestly. Actually, polystyrene takes well to hot-air bending- I once molded some around my hand for a school project, using a heat gun (and a kevlar glove so I didn't burn myself).
I wish you the best of luck with your bending jig, and the current plasma weapon you are making. If the styrene tubes end up not working well for the coils, I want to share with you what I plan to use for titan scale plasma weapons, in case it could be helpful to you. The dollar tree has anodized aluminum floral wire that is quite soft, and flexible. It is a little under 2mm in diameter. Do you think that could be helpful in your build? (picture in spoiler)
Syro_ wrote: I wish you the best of luck with your bending jig, and the current plasma weapon you are making. If the styrene tubes end up not working well for the coils, I want to share with you what I plan to use for titan scale plasma weapons, in case it could be helpful to you. The dollar tree has anodized aluminum floral wire that is quite soft, and flexible. It is a little under 2mm in diameter. Do you think that could be helpful in your build? (picture in spoiler)
Spoiler:
My coils are 1/8 inch (3,2 MM) in diameter which lie within the parameters of the Sunfury coils (According to my calculations.) but I appreciate the interest and the information.
I'm glad to hear it worked! It turned out great IMO. Also, wow, even after following along for so long, and seeing the scale shots, it's still hard to wrap my head around the scale of an Emperor Titan done right.
Whereas my coils could work on a gun upward of 20 inches but I made the coil extra long to allow for selvage. BTW Nature does that on the DNA molecule and is the reason we age.
“Blackadder: Making DakkaDakka bigger and better since 2008”
Now I want a bumper sticker saying it
Seriously impressive work. I guess I wasn’t paying attention to the picture of the original as I thought the coils wrapped all the way around in a 360degree circle . One of the many reasons that I cannot tackle a behemoth project like this .
Theophony wrote: “Blackadder: Making DakkaDakka bigger and better since 2008”
Now I want a bumper sticker saying it
Seriously impressive work. I guess I wasn’t paying attention to the picture of the original as I thought the coils wrapped all the way around in a 360 degree circle . One of the many reasons that I cannot tackle a behemoth project like this .
Yeah; I don't know how these coils operate either with huge gaps in the What! Magnetic Field, Inductance, Proton acceleration? but they do look cool as s*** and I can't wait to do the gap detail.
I'm still thinking that the side channels are overlays instead of inlays, and that's how it works.
Either that, or hidden in the middles are places where they loop back into themselves, creating a much more complex magnetic field to properly shape the plasma into a projectile.
The biggest problem is I overestimated the size of the gun. The onscreen gun is 18 inches (46 CM ) overall
I would argue that if anything, you've underestimated it. The armaments on an Imperator are supposed to be substantially larger than those on a Warlord.
Also, as far as the coils go, on the warlord's gun, to me it always looked like it has 4 distinct set of rounded-off square-ish coils, kind of like the cross section below - the red part is the part of the coils you can see, with the blue part hidden underneath the "worky bits". Somewhere near the barrel of the gun, the plasma from all four coils are combined into the "projectile" of the gun.
. Proper angling of the panels is a good idea, and it looks like the grid will allow you to easily replicate the angles. Bonus!
(with a thumb as there isn't a saluting Orkmoticon)
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