That looks rough, not elegant. It appears to be made from a bone shaft with a bone cross piece and two real skulls impaled on the crosspiece as clubs. The whole thing being crudely held together by leather straps. The splitered ends on the shaft and crosspiece is what suggests bone to me.
I'd say Chaos, Orks, or Death. Orks seems unlikely based on the hand, and Death tends not to use crude bone weapons. The hand does look like Flesh Eater Courts however.
My guess is FEC. I checked the new leaked ghouls with halberds sprue and this hammer was not on it. Why do I bring this up? I think it points to multiple new FEC kits.
KidCthulhu wrote: My guess is FEC. I checked the new leaked ghouls with halberds sprue and this hammer was not on it. Why do I bring this up? I think it points to multiple new FEC kits.
Supposedly this is a "huge" release. Whitefang called the model wielding this the "judge".
Ohman wrote: FEC makes sense. Looks a bit rough though, would have guessed terrain myself.
By the way, has anone solved a rumour pic lately? Seem likes ages since a saw a solved one.
I just looked it up, the last solved rumour engine where two for the Inquisitorial warband solved on the 1st of May so quite a while ago
Before that every we had a rumour engine solved every month since November 2021. And that was only a single month pause so three months now is quite a long time.
Over the whole lifespan of the rumour engine there where only 5 months without solving one which where:
11.2021
08.2021
06.2021
09.2018
06.2017
So three months in a row is quite strange.
Wonder if that was planned or if something went wrong?
Could be FEC related. Super outside chance it’s Kuornoth for Stick Pixies. The drippy bits being the velvet coming off newly grown Antlers rather than anything manky.
Nevelon wrote: Horns and slime could be nurgle. Or those new swamp orks.
With nurgle I would expect more decay than just slime so holes and pus. This seems more like some kind of fabric hanging off. Could very well be skin and for FEC Also interesting are those spiderweb paint lines on the bottom of two of the horns. Doesn't seem to fit GW usual clean painting schemes
It’s not, but I wish it was a shard of Kurnoth. The Old Stag appears in the novel Dark Harvest by Josh Reynolds and is so cool. A giant stag that’s also a tree, and somewhat resembles a man. Something along the lines of a sylvaneth version of the monster from the Ritual
GaroRobe wrote: It’s not, but I wish it was a shard of Kurnoth. The Old Stag appears in the novel Dark Harvest by Josh Reynolds and is so cool. A giant stag that’s also a tree, and somewhat resembles a man. Something along the lines of a sylvaneth version of the monster from the Ritual
Worth mentioning that Whitefang has been dropping hints of Kurnothi this year as part of Dawnbringer.
There was also this:
Kurnothi actually means the sylvaneth/elf/(or even human maybe) worshippers of kurnoth
the fauns and centaurs are the one blessed by kurnoth to resemble some wild beasts
And some sylvaneth are also considered as kurnothi.
The Old Stag has weird tree dogs (because kurnoth had hunting dogs) but the sylvaneth in the book hate him and want to keep him asleep. Though spite tree revenants would probably love him
The big question is if they become part of Sylvaneth or if they stand adjacent to it as their own fully fledged army. There are pros and cons to both approaches
The big question is if they become part of Sylvaneth or if they stand adjacent to it as their own fully fledged army. There are pros and cons to both approaches
Sylvaneth. As much as I'd like them to be their own army, I don't see it happening.
I would love to see Kurnothi finally make it to AoS proper. But they can join a long list of factions they have teased that I would love to finally see in plastic.
GaroRobe wrote: The Old Stag has weird tree dogs (because kurnoth had hunting dogs) but the sylvaneth in the book hate him and want to keep him asleep. Though spite tree revenants would probably love him
GaroRobe wrote: The Old Stag has weird tree dogs (because kurnoth had hunting dogs) but the sylvaneth in the book hate him and want to keep him asleep. Though spite tree revenants would probably love him
Only takes Alarielle to change her mind.
The Old Stag wasn't Kurnoth.
"Dark Harvest" has an...interesting explanation of how this stuff works.
Spoiler:
In Wald, a village in the Ghoul Mere, it is said the Everqueen tamed and then flayed the Old Stag and from the meat she pulled a single seed that would become Kurnoth. That which remained was submerged in the mire, dreaming of carnage in his name, guarded by her Sylvaneth, later Wald would be built atop it.
That's a model I haven't thought of in a looong time, and it would work so well. Especially since the preyton's lore was that it looked like a stag and tricked Bretonnian knights into following them, so it could attack and eat them. Perfect for the FEC
Undeadish by the look of it but is it FEC or other faction? Also for AOS or maybe rather Warcry/Underworlds? Would be funny if it is just some weirdo decoration for not undead hero.
Are dragons ever associated with tomb kings tho? A giant snake maybe, but a dragon? The wings also look like they’re not going to be huge so they’re probably varghulf size
Varghulf was my first thought but it does look too decayed for that. New Tomb King dragon would be absolute amazeballs...
Looks very vertical tho, so the miniature is fairly upright... I'm gonna do a crazy guess that it's a... whatever the ogre-sized FEC winged ghoul hero is.
Yeah those look closer to morghast wing size than zombie dragon size. Of course it could be something for flesheaters only or soulblight and flesheaters
Not skarbrand; it’s subtle but his wing fingers still have flesh on them whereas the rumour image has bare bone like the undead models. So probably some new undead thing.
GaroRobe wrote: I wonder how they got the body on? That spear too is too wide to fit through the mouth, so maybe the stabbed the person with the non pointy end?
I know “it’s magic” is a lame excuse, but if you’ve made dark pacts for necromancy and bone crafting, and want to make a point by displaying a corpse prominently, you going to let reality and the laws of physics get in the way?
I think not.
Thinking about it again, I feel that I’ve seen this setup before. Old black coach?
The "spear" looks crafted in one piece with the shaft.
Also looks like it could be part of a chaos star vehicle decoration.
My conclusion: Traitor Guard tank upgrade.
GaroRobe wrote: I wonder how they got the body on? That spear tip is too wide to fit through the mouth, so maybe they stabbed the person with the non pointy end?
"Talk back to me again and I'll make you eat that bloody spear. Blunt-end first."
What's the 'teardrop' shaped mass where the skeleton's right arm should be? Is that meant to be cloth, like the remains of a shirt or coat?
Also, the wound to the side of the skull could be a bullet-hole.
I doubt it is for 40k though. They wouldn't miss the opportunity to add cybernetics or recognizable faction armour (almost certainly guard) to a skeleton.
I actually thought that could be a thing and googled it. For that humiliation alone, I will be making an anti-anti scalpers group, where exclusive models are sold for unreasonable prices. I shall call it Evil Bay. Or E-bay for short.
I actually thought that could be a thing and googled it. For that humiliation alone, I will be making an anti-anti scalpers group, where exclusive models are sold for unreasonable prices. I shall call it Evil Bay. Or E-bay for short.
GaroRobe wrote: Are dragons ever associated with tomb kings tho? A giant snake maybe, but a dragon? The wings also look like they’re not going to be huge so they’re probably varghulf size
In WFB, no. Nor have dragons been mentioned in the history of Khemri. And anything bigger than "normal" for Tomb Kings is a construct. Even the giant skeleton that the Tomb Kings had was a construct instead of just the skeleton of a dead giant.
However, as someone else noted, there was a "zombie dragon" in the Warmaster Tomb Kings list. So a Tomb Kings dragon wouldn't be completely without precedent. Still unlikely, though, imo.
GaroRobe wrote: I wonder how they got the body on? That spear too is too wide to fit through the mouth, so maybe the stabbed the person with the non pointy end?
I know “it’s magic” is a lame excuse, but if you’ve made dark pacts for necromancy and bone crafting, and want to make a point by displaying a corpse prominently, you going to let reality and the laws of physics get in the way?
I think not.
Thinking about it again, I feel that I’ve seen this setup before. Old black coach?
You are forgetting that the blade is quite thin and you could do it quite easily at a diagonal. As someone who has worked a lot with human remains, you'd be amazed at how easily it is to manipulate them.
As for the what army is this - whatever is the undead in AoS these days.
Thinking about it again, I feel that I’ve seen this setup before. Old black coach?
Yeah it does bring that piece to mind.
Very coincidental that the black coach has a 40 years of warhammer article on the community site this week
Saw that, and it saved me the trouble of digging around for my old coach. I remembered it had a skeleton on a spike in an unusual way, and wanted to check vs. the rumor pic. But the old kit was not a though the mouth spike, but through the ribcage.
The rim at the top of the blade bears a resemblance to a khopesh so I'm going way out on this limb over here to tentatively suggest that it might possibly be for Tomb Kings.
Flesheater Courts are insane vampires - they do have skeletal units such the zombiedragon and terrorghast. In theory they can access almost anything Soulblight can, save for a lack of professional armour smiths and any ghosts.
The other thing is that because some kits are shared with Soulblight, an update on something like a Terrorgast would update both armies
Astmeister wrote: Someone pointed out that FEC is the only AoS faction missing in 3rd edition.
Yeah, and we know it's coming. We also had an entire unit leaked for them via a literal sprue.
There's a WarCry release coming in the winter, with Order and Death being the 2 factions noted.
Out of the Death factions? Only Ossiarchs and Nighthaunt are missing a warband now. Bonereapers are the most likely culprit for this model, as there's been a rumor for awhile of them getting "skeletal bowmen"...and a bird to go with them wouldn't be remiss!
Although they could throw an entire curveball, and have it be a warband of Deathrattle Skeletons. There's a mention of "grim skeletal woodsmen" in the most recent Gravelords book.
I would still love to see GW do to Kroot what they did to Genestealers. Keep a core of Kroot models in the Tau army; but then take those same models and separate them out into their own army complete with even more alien allies for them.
With how diverse and dominant, but visually and mechanically, the battlesuit style Tau have become; it just makes so much creative sense to let the Kroot become the core of a Xeno allied force of other races working with the Tau. Far more than squeezing them into the army and ending up with it overloaded.
Overread wrote: I would still love to see GW do to Kroot what they did to Genestealers. Keep a core of Kroot models in the Tau army; but then take those same models and separate them out into their own army complete with even more alien allies for them.
With how diverse and dominant, but visually and mechanically, the battlesuit style Tau have become; it just makes so much creative sense to let the Kroot become the core of a Xeno allied force of other races working with the Tau. Far more than squeezing them into the army and ending up with it overloaded.
Im not liking the idea of making a new army out of a specific unit. Feel like GW tried that before with less than inspiered results. Harlies had to go back to main Aeldari dex, and writing a codex around Angron beeing an unstoppable tank that ressurects is just silly.
Overread wrote: I would still love to see GW do to Kroot what they did to Genestealers. Keep a core of Kroot models in the Tau army; but then take those same models and separate them out into their own army complete with even more alien allies for them.
Kroot used to have a chapter approved "kroot mercenaries" list in 3rd and 4th edition. no allied xenos, just lots of additional kroot varieties and specialty units. it could be found in issue 265 of white dwarf (issue 263 in the US) and was reprinted in "chapter approved 2003"
as far as the image goes, iirc the Greater knarloc had an option for a twin linked kroot-gun (with stats comparable to a twin linked autocannon), though the kroot-bolt-thrower was the better option for it. but i kinda doubt that they'd release something that big for the tau that isn't a battlesuit.
They chose a weird photo to go with. The top raven looks like it’s molded into the rock like it’s actually sitting on it and it’s legs are just dangling from either side. Maybe it’s a fantasy crow that just sit differently than their real world counterparts
The star on the spear looks like it could well be Chaos. If not then the whispy nature of that effect and the pitting on the blade would suggest death.
Also the end of that magical whispy stuff looks like the dog spot's head from A Nightmare before Christmas
Overread wrote: The star on the spear looks like it could well be Chaos. If not then the whispy nature of that effect and the pitting on the blade would suggest death.
I'm thinking it's Valkia as well. Her current spear is pretty bland and doesn't have a khorne icon on it, so the lack of one on the new spear isn't a dealbreaker
Otherwise, something for warcry? Even though we already have flame based fighters
Looks like StD, but they dont usually have special effects magical smoke swirls.
Perhaps GW decided they have done enough of classical chaos warrior style to hook the community, and no go on to do weird AoS style like perhaps a Centaurion unit.
Got scope and a bi-pod with what looks like a krak missile ready to go. Were it not so Imperial looking, it'd be inclined to say it's from those legendary ork sniper units that gave the Celestial Lions so much trouble on Armageddon.
Needle pistol of some sort? Not a clue. Whatever it is interesting. Probably end up being some weird mechanicus do-dah.
Votann? That grip where it's angled like that seems to be similar to how several of their heavy weapons grips are. Doesn't really line up with the grips for Imperium weapons that I can find.
Snrub wrote: Got scope and a bi-pod with what looks like a krak missile ready to go. Were it not so Imperial looking, it'd be inclined to say it's from those legendary ork sniper units that gave the Celestial Lions so much trouble on Armageddon.
Needle pistol of some sort? Not a clue. Whatever it is interesting. Probably end up being some weird mechanicus do-dah.
It would have to be Mechanicum, because we know it isn't Mechanicus.
There's a sandbag that looks like a pie next to a sandbag that looks like a turkey next to a sandbag that looks like a wine bottle, so 100% confirmed it's not ratlings becaouse ratlings would have food, not sandbags
Not only is that almost definitely a pie, but in front of it appears to be a bottle of wine, and the "sandbag" behind it actually appears to be a turkey or cooked bird.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Curious to see what that missile launcher is attached to. The bipod and scope imply that its almost certainly a hand-held weapon system.
Armageddon Steel Legion had a similar styled missile launcher back in the day with the externally mounted missile/warhead, but not bipod (I think there was a scope).
IIRC, the Valhallan missile launcher had a similar scope/bipod arrangement, but was not an external warhead and was more like a bazooka/AT4/carl gustav, etc. in the sense that it was a large-diameter tube.
I seem to recall seeing someone did a fairly accurate conversion/model based on it like 15 years ago that was featured on the GW site - I'm talking like back when they still published the weekly Black Gobbo article. Quick googling didn't turn up anything, but I remember the similar trace of bullet-holes across the concrete slab that was being used to provide cover.
It absolutely does look like a pie, but they wouldn't put a pie on a model for 40k.
For the record, the reason I think this is tied to a Combat Engineers unit along with those 2 Rumor Engines is that the most recent Cadian novels have been weirdly specific about Combat Engineers. There's also been a lot of art of Cadian Snipers, despite no longer being buildable outside of the Kasrkin box, which would fit with a Pioneer/Combat Engineer unit if they chose to do so.
Yeah, thats what I was thinking too - christmas/holiday miniature. Could be Da Red Gobbo in his sleigh pulled by a team of squigs led by Rude-olf the red-nosed squig, bringing grenades, turkey, wine, and pies to all the good little grots for the holidays.
Kanluwen wrote: It absolutely does look like a pie, but they wouldn't put a pie on a model for 40k.
I don't know on what table you're rolling these arguments up, but that's got to be at least
We literally have two Ratling Sniper models in BSF, neither has a pie. One does have a fridge though.
They sometimes use the rumour engine to show commemorative / special edition stuff, you know. I could see it being a hint of the Christmas miniature.
I know they use it to show commemorative/special edition stuff.
I just think that too many people are sticking to the goofy answer, while ignoring that we saw a lot of sandbags as part of the Cadian releases and that it's a box full of sandbags, grenades, and a canteen/bottle.
Which is it more likely to be:
-A Pie, somehow painted exactly like the sandbags surrounding it
-A sandbag with a hole poorly sculpted into the fabric
?
Kanluwen wrote: It absolutely does look like a pie, but they wouldn't put a pie on a model for 40k.
I don't know on what table you're rolling these arguments up, but that's got to be at least
We literally have two Ratling Sniper models in BSF, neither has a pie. One does have a fridge though.
They sometimes use the rumour engine to show commemorative / special edition stuff, you know. I could see it being a hint of the Christmas miniature.
I know they use it to show commemorative/special edition stuff.
I just think that too many people are sticking to the goofy answer, while ignoring that we saw a lot of sandbags as part of the Cadian releases and that it's a box full of sandbags, grenades, and a canteen/bottle.
Which is it more likely to be:
-A Pie, somehow painted exactly like the sandbags surrounding it
-A sandbag with a hole poorly sculpted into the fabric
?
It's far more likely that it's a pie and a turkey than the idea that it just happens to be a sandbag that coincidentally has the characteristics of a pie including the round shape, a clear crust and hole a hole right in the middle, that's placed right next to another sandbag and 2 bottles that coincidentally happen to look just like a turkey.
Seriously? You completely ignore the point being made just to keep repeating "Sandbags!"?
If people are going to completely ignore the point being made just to keep repeating "pie", "turkey", or "ham" why not?
Because back when the rumor engine first dropped, I did talk about how the bit that people kept saying was a "turkey" looked just to be a sandbag laying flat with another sandbag wedged in next to it. The paint strokes seem to be very similar to the actual sandbags sitting out next to the box.
Seriously? You completely ignore the point being made just to keep repeating "Sandbags!"?
If people are going to completely ignore the point being made just to keep repeating "pie", "turkey", or "ham" why not?
Because back when the rumor engine first dropped, I did talk about how the bit that people kept saying was a "turkey" looked just to be a sandbag laying flat with another sandbag wedged in next to it. The paint strokes seem to be very similar to the actual sandbags sitting out next to the box.
My post was addressing your point. You ignored it just to repeat "It's sandbags!" again. You asked if it was more likely to be sandbags, or a pie that just happens to be coloured similarly to sandbags.
Between these two options:
1. It looks like a pie and turkey because it's a pie and turkey
2. It's a sandbag that coincidentally has the characteristics of a pie including the round shape, a clear crust and hole a hole right in the middle, that just happens to be placed right next to another sandbag and 2 bottles that just coincidentally also make up the shape of a turkey (your claim)
That the first option is the most likely. The second would be quite a big contrivance.
It clearly resembles a pie and turkey. You've even acknowledged that yourself yet for some reason think that's some far more wild idea than it being 2 sandbags and 2 bottles that just happen to have all the expected characteristics and be coincidentally arranged to look like a pie and turkey.
Claiming that the designers accidentally arranged them to make something that just resembles a pie and turkey and no one realized is pretty absurd.
Look there are certain things in the world that don't make sense
Shepherds pie is not a casserole, its Shepherds Pie
Just the same as how many Shepherds Pies have beef in them instead of mutton. Since everyone calls a Cottage Pie a Shepherds Pie (even though we all know its the wrong name).
Good god. Someone inform the King, London Tower needs to be reopened immediately for this man and his absolutely debased opinion.
Andykp wrote:How the merry hell is shepherds pie a casserole!
That's what I'd bloody well like to know! An utterly abominable thought. I need a very strong cup of tea, right this very second just to deal with the knowledge someone believes this. I feel I may faint.
Shakalooloo wrote:It's not covered in pastry.
No pie crust or pastry shell, ergo not a pie
It most certainly is covered in pastry. Lots of it in fact.
chaos0xomega wrote:I'm eating shepherds pie right now
You most certainly are not.
Overread wrote:Look there are certain things in the world that don't make sense
Yes, like these absolute loons who think shepherds pies are casseroles!
Shepherds pie is not a casserole, its Shepherds Pie
Thank you! A voice of reason in this choir of lunacy.
Just the same as how many Shepherds Pies have beef in them instead of mutton. Since everyone calls a Cottage Pie a Shepherds Pie (even though we all know its the wrong name).
This confused the hell out of me as a kid. I knew shepherds meant sheep, yet none of the shepherds pies I ever ate contained it. Very frustrating for a small boy to try and wrap his head around.
chaos0xomega wrote:The shepherds pie I just ate was made with pork *shrug*
This thread got very funny overnight, and not just because of Kan ignoring reality (again). I had never thought of the difference between Sheppard's and Cottage Pie.
I think what I've been having for years is Cottage Pie called Sheppard's Pie, which is disappointing as my dad is English and should know better.
So I looked into this, and the earliest known published recipe for Shepherds Pie dates to 1849, and indicates that it is prepared using sliced (not minced or ground) meat of any kind. Covered in mashed potato and baked, no pastry - its a casserole, not a pie.
A recipe for a shepherds pie was published in Scotland about 10 years later that featured minced mutton served with mashed potatoes in a pastry, which is what I'm guessing some of you think Shepherds pie is, but this is not the original recipe, and not what most of the world thinks of when discussing shepherds pie (though I think the presence of hte pastry probably makes it better than the typical shepherds pie the rest of us know).
H.B.M.C. wrote: Lightsabers are considerably less deadly since Disney took over.
Reva got stabbed twice and survived. She stabbed the Grand Inquisitor, and he was fine after a day or two. Sabine, totally fine after a day or two.
Anakin got hit twice during two fights and lost limbs!
Didn't realize you were old enough to have had your dad come over with the First Fleet
Kinda makes me wonder what other foods could be represented on models. A plate of sandbags would be fairly unappetizing, but a ogor would probably eat it regardless.
I remain in the camp that declares the rumour engine shows foodstuffs as the first to declare as such in this thread.
I concede there is a chance it is entirely coincidental, but I think it is unlikely. Re. similarity in paint texture and tone- I'd refer to the similar tan-brown colouration of pie crusts, roast poultry, and sandbags. A lotta food is shades of beige...
Andykp wrote: And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.
Shepherd's Pie is only called 'pie' in an ironic way, like a Glasgow Kiss or a Chelsea Smile. That's the best a shepherd could do, no fancy pastry for them!
Then that my friend was not a shepherds pie! God only knows what it was but a shepherds pie it was not.
Shepherds pie= lamb/mutton
Cottage pie = beef.
Weird pork mash combo= WTF!
And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.
Fayric wrote: I shudder to think of what kind of mystery meat pie the astra militarum could provide during a campaign.
Corpse-starch is an established in-universe thing.
It also can’t be the only foodstuff, entropically, or you’d run out of people quite quickly. Plus not every Guardsman is a hiveworlder too busy trying to figure out how they keep such a massive roof dome supported to worry about the food; some of them are from agri-worlds, forest worlds, garden worlds, and regular old Developed Worlds, and so would have at least heard of things like fruit.
Part of me wants to say ork because a rocket sniperrifle is just silly enough for them. But all of it is too smooth, that scope isn't nearly over the top enough to be on an ork gun. Ratlings maybe? It would mix well with the sandbag/pie basing material that started off this pastry prosperity.
Something else I noticed. Does that look like a pistol grip on the bottom? Pistol with a bipod?
Kanluwen wrote: It appears to be a foregrip rather than a 'pistol' grip.
Certainly possible and would make more sense. But do foregrips often have what looks to be a trigger guard sorta thing? Does look like there's a bit of metal in front of the fingerholes ya know?
cody.d. wrote: Certainly possible and would make more sense. But do foregrips often have what looks to be a trigger guard sorta thing? Does look like there's a bit of metal in front of the fingerholes ya know?
I wouldn't think too hard about it. This is a weapon designed by the same company who added rail-systems to bolters yet mounts nothing on them (with scopes sitting on something else entirely further down the gun). It could just as easily be the trigger in an unusual place (trigger on an RPG-7 is well towards the front of the launcher after all).
Fayric wrote: I shudder to think of what kind of mystery meat pie the astra militarum could provide during a campaign.
Corpse-starch is an established in-universe thing.
It also can’t be the only foodstuff, entropically, or you’d run out of people quite quickly. Plus not every Guardsman is a hiveworlder too busy trying to figure out how they keep such a massive roof dome supported to worry about the food; some of them are from agri-worlds, forest worlds, garden worlds, and regular old Developed Worlds, and so would have at least heard of things like fruit.
....sure?
Fruit exists. That doesn't change anything about cannibalism being an established part of the Imperium of Man.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: The bipod makes me think it’s something Imperial. Because it’s a very Imperial bipod.
As a short ranged commando weapon it is silly, but just about plausible.
Unless………….this is the fore grip of a more regular launcher, and we’re not seeing the long tubey bit?
Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.
Just how weirdly this dohicky is mapped does make me think a pistol, and a pair of rocket pistols is a tankbusta staple. And we are overdue a tankbusta kit, possibly it'll be released with the upcoming ork codex? Buuuut, it also has a certain lack of randomly bolted on metal plates to be proper orky.
There is also that Kustom megablastaish barrel we've seen recently. Duel kit would be fantastic. Oh, maybe grot snipers? Them having nicked loot would also explain the food base bit we've seen.
cody.d. wrote: Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.
Again, overthinking it. GW designers =/= gun designers.
cody.d. wrote: Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.
Again, overthinking it. GW designers = gun designers.
cody.d. wrote: Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.
Again, overthinking it. GW designers = gun designers.
Belt fed rocket launchers anyone?
I'm assuming HBMC meant it to be a not equals sign.
Norn Queen Yurei wrote: Do we have any hint when/if Necrons are coming out before Christmas?
The original roadmap had them at “Winter 2023” so I would assume before the end of the year. Don’t know if we have a more recent update. But with the reveals they’ve given us, we are ramping up for a release soonish
Norn Queen Yurei wrote: Do we have any hint when/if Necrons are coming out before Christmas?
The original roadmap had them at “Winter 2023” so I would assume before the end of the year. Don’t know if we have a more recent update. But with the reveals they’ve given us, we are ramping up for a release soonish
For GW marketing "winter" covers December / January / February (Meteorological Seasons for anyone curious). Both the Guard and World Eaters releases were listed as "Winter" on last year's 40k roadmap, and released in Jan / Feb respectively.
I fully expect Necrons and the HH mystery army to follow a similar pattern, maybe Admech too.
Norn Queen Yurei wrote: Do we have any hint when/if Necrons are coming out before Christmas?
The original roadmap had them at “Winter 2023” so I would assume before the end of the year. Don’t know if we have a more recent update. But with the reveals they’ve given us, we are ramping up for a release soonish
For GW marketing "winter" covers December / January / February (Meteorological Seasons for anyone curious). Both the Guard and World Eaters releases were listed as "Winter" on last year's 40k roadmap, and released in Jan / Feb respectively.
I fully expect Necrons and the HH mystery army to follow a similar pattern, maybe Admech too.
The fact they stuck the year on there implied Dec for me, otherwise I would have thought winter 2024 would be more accurate. You are correct, they could go with the season not the year.
Still with the last leaks I’d think sooner, rather then later.
The roadmap is a GW publication. It could be clearer by writing Winter 23/24, but you'll have to wait for an errata to fix it. Until then when you discuss it with anyone, just roll off which interpretation is correct.
cody.d. wrote: Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.
Again, overthinking it. GW designers =/= gun designers.
Let's look at PSRL-1 (murican made RPG-7 knockoff for special forces that was only 20x more expensive, heavier, and less ergonomic):
What do we see here? Ah, yes, front bipod (bottom pic), forward "pistol" grip, scope on top, the works. Must be made by GW designers too, eh?
It would be nice if this meant an army expansion of Daughters of Khaine. And I mean expansion with real units, not the far more likely single clampack standard bearer this might be.
Are we expecting another Order warband for Warcry that might turn out to be Daughters?
Geifer wrote: It would be nice if this meant an army expansion of Daughters of Khaine. And I mean expansion with real units, not the far more likely single clampack standard bearer this might be.
What, another one? They got the Melusai, Khinerai, and the addition of the Shadowstalkers!
Are we expecting another Order warband for Warcry that might turn out to be Daughters?
We're expecting another Order warband for WarCry, but I doubt it would be Daughters since they already have the Shadowstalkers.
Whitefang said that is Morai heg : also known as the "Crow-Goddess," the "Keeper of Souls," the "All-seeing One" or the "Crone," is the Elven goddess of fate and death. Within her rune pouch, she holds the fate of all mortals. It is considered a dark practice to openly pay tribute to her."
Also for warcry Next banda are order VS death. Maybe this new death aelves VS death (osiarchs)?
zamerion wrote: Whitefang said that is Morai heg : also known as the "Crow-Goddess," the "Keeper of Souls," the "All-seeing One" or the "Crone," is the Elven goddess of fate and death. Within her rune pouch, she holds the fate of all mortals. It is considered a dark practice to openly pay tribute to her."
Also for warcry Next banda are order VS death. Maybe this new death aelves VS death (osiarchs)?
There is lore of DOK who do not follow Morathi so it is possible this is a splinter cult who worship Morai-Heg in place of Khaine or Morathi. Or another attempt by Morathi to use a dead god for her own purposes.
Morai-Heg had ties to the Shadow King, Alith Anar, whose fate is one of the unknowns.
Sidenote:
I phrase it like this as he had a massive encampment of Shadow Warriors towards the end of the End Times: Khaine book. It's also heavily implied that he and his followers were granted entry to the 'safehouse' that was created for Araloth.
Kanluwen wrote: Morai-Heg had ties to the Shadow King, Alith Anar, whose fate is one of the unknowns.
Sidenote:
I phrase it like this as he had a massive encampment of Shadow Warriors towards the end of the End Times: Khaine book. It's also heavily implied that he and his followers were granted entry to the 'safehouse' that was created for Araloth.
Did that safe house realm thing not also get all wrecked? Been yonks since I read Khaine, but I’m sure that plan failed.
Kanluwen wrote: Morai-Heg had ties to the Shadow King, Alith Anar, whose fate is one of the unknowns.
Sidenote:
I phrase it like this as he had a massive encampment of Shadow Warriors towards the end of the End Times: Khaine book. It's also heavily implied that he and his followers were granted entry to the 'safehouse' that was created for Araloth.
Did that safe house realm thing not also get all wrecked? Been yonks since I read Khaine, but I’m sure that plan failed.
I genuinely don't know. The whole immediate End Times lore was a garbled mess of novellas, novels, and WD articles.
FWIW, things like the Acorn of the Ages for Sylvaneth have to come from somewhere. Some of them were in the safe realm.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Looks very Dark Elf-ish. Needn't necessarily be Daughters. Could be the long-awaited Malerion stuff (or however you spell trademarkable Malekith).
I suspect Malerion's guys are more of a new edition starter army. Yeah, just a feeling, nothing to back it up. But if they are, we shouldn't expect to see any rumor engines that are conclusive enough to spoil the surprise.
This banner looks like a Khainite skull. I don't know what Malerion and Morathi are up to these days, but I wouldn't expect Khaine worship in Malerion's realm. Can't let all that prayer go to the competition, right?
They don't have a High Elf mandala I can spot, but for the Dark Elf one? Morai-Heg's the one down-right in the inner circle from the Khaine sigil in the center.
It definitely looks like it has the bones of the Dark Elf sigil.
chaos0xomega wrote: Are we sure thats elven? Looks like a stylized eye of horus to me.
I saw an eye above a khorne icon initially.
The thing is, all of this is true. It look like an eye, over a khorne rune, done in an elven style.
Obviously it must be traitor berserker elves?
Don't make me dream
Chaos elves are a pretty untapped vein. Not sure how well that fits into the AoS lore. I think they technically exist in old 40k lore, but don’t get mentioned much. Probably a lot of overlap with the existing evil, just not in a chaos way ranges we have already. Might make for a fun warband in one of the spinoff games.
tangent
Spoiler:
Back in 5th edition WHFB, you could have chaos warriors with additional hand weapons, but they didn’t include the option in the kits at the time. Now you could give them the mark of khorne to frenzy them, and with the extra HW they were blenders. I don’t know if I ever went full blender, preferring the mark of slanesh for the phycology advantages. But I did kitbash a unit of “when witchelves go bad” by replacing the laspistols on some howling banshees and adding some extra stabby bits.
Excuse the rough work and paint, these ladies date from the mid/late 90s, I’ve come a long way since then
H.B.M.C. wrote: Are the Mist/ShadowElves we see sometimes part of the Daughters line up? Or have they never really been expanded upon?
So in theory the whole of the Shadow Realm is basically ruled by Maliketh and his Shadow Aelf faction. They are the big nation that rules and Morathi and her Daughters of Khaine are a tiny force in a small secluded corner of the realm (the most shadowed).
So it is strange that one of the biggest forces in the entire game and lore is basically "missing" for so long. We get the odd mention here and there in the lore, but basically they've not been greatly touched upon and have been holding back for ages.
Overread wrote: Sweet looking model! Kind of surprised its a regular overlord and not a named character!
To be fair, it is a very normal looking Lord that happens to be caught at a very particular moment as it phases in/out. If you look beyond the green swirls nothing is particularly stand-out
So its really an exceptional "action pose". Overall a lovely model though.
Scottywan82 wrote: Neat model. I wonder what the issue was that they held this for after the last round of reveals.
Could be anything from just production slot access or perhaps the teaser is from a 3D design and they found some issues with parting and casting the model in plastic.
Someone inform the King, London Tower needs to be reopened immediately for this man and his absolutely debased opinion.
