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So I looked into this, and the earliest known published recipe for Shepherds Pie dates to 1849, and indicates that it is prepared using sliced (not minced or ground) meat of any kind. Covered in mashed potato and baked, no pastry - its a casserole, not a pie.

A recipe for a shepherds pie was published in Scotland about 10 years later that featured minced mutton served with mashed potatoes in a pastry, which is what I'm guessing some of you think Shepherds pie is, but this is not the original recipe, and not what most of the world thinks of when discussing shepherds pie (though I think the presence of hte pastry probably makes it better than the typical shepherds pie the rest of us know).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Lightsabers are considerably less deadly since Disney took over.

Reva got stabbed twice and survived. She stabbed the Grand Inquisitor, and he was fine after a day or two. Sabine, totally fine after a day or two.

Anakin got hit twice during two fights and lost limbs!

Didn't realize you were old enough to have had your dad come over with the First Fleet

Same, i never knew you needed lamb to be a shepards pie.

Kinda makes me wonder what other foods could be represented on models. A plate of sandbags would be fairly unappetizing, but a ogor would probably eat it regardless.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Same, i never knew you needed lamb to be a shepards pie.

Lamb = Shepherds Pie

Beefs = Cottage Pie.

But both are utterly vile.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


But both are utterly vile.

HOLD IT!

This man right here is the most crazy of all!

Do we need a Pie thread, maybe in Off Topic?


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 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


But both are utterly vile.

HOLD IT!

This man right here is the most crazy of all!

Look, pal. If I wants me Mince and Tatties, I’ll have my Mince Tatties. No need to stack it atop each other like some kind of primitive Hipster!


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Sod it.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/811889.page#11601009

The Great Dakka Pie Fight is on!

chaos0xomega wrote:
The shepherds pie I just ate was made with pork *shrug*

Then that my friend was not a shepherds pie! God only knows what it was but a shepherds pie it was not.

Shepherds pie= lamb/mutton
Cottage pie = beef.
Weird pork mash combo= WTF!

And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.

Well this thread has been a joy

I remain in the camp that declares the rumour engine shows foodstuffs as the first to declare as such in this thread.

I concede there is a chance it is entirely coincidental, but I think it is unlikely. Re. similarity in paint texture and tone- I'd refer to the similar tan-brown colouration of pie crusts, roast poultry, and sandbags. A lotta food is shades of beige...

Andykp wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
The shepherds pie I just ate was made with pork *shrug*

Then that my friend was not a shepherds pie! God only knows what it was but a shepherds pie it was not.

Shepherds pie= lamb/mutton
Cottage pie = beef.
Weird pork mash combo= WTF!

And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.

That'll be yer swineherd's pie, that will

https://www.riverford.co.uk/recipes/swineherds-pie

The only Sheperd's Pie i know is 3 ingredients (and spices)

Mashed Potatoes
Corn
Ground beef

(Steak, blé d'inde, patate, caliss)

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
The only Sheperd's Pie i know is 3 ingredients (and spices)

Mashed Potatoes
Corn
Ground beef

(Steak, blé d'inde, patate, caliss)

This is why Americans shouldn’t try and do food

Andykp wrote:
And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.

Shepherd's Pie is only called 'pie' in an ironic way, like a Glasgow Kiss or a Chelsea Smile. That's the best a shepherd could do, no fancy pastry for them!

Andykp wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
The shepherds pie I just ate was made with pork *shrug*

Then that my friend was not a shepherds pie! God only knows what it was but a shepherds pie it was not.

Shepherds pie= lamb/mutton
Cottage pie = beef.
Weird pork mash combo= WTF!

And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.

Are you trying to tell me that my shepherds pie was actually deconstructed bangers and mash?

Again though, I go back to the original recipe for Shepheds Pie which called for any type of meat.

Crispy78 wrote:

Andykp wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
The shepherds pie I just ate was made with pork *shrug*

Then that my friend was not a shepherds pie! God only knows what it was but a shepherds pie it was not.
Shepherds pie= lamb/mutton
Cottage pie = beef.
Weird pork mash combo= WTF!
And a pie crust doesn’t have to be pastry. A potato crust is still a pie crust.

That'll be yer swineherd's pie, that will
https://www.riverford.co.uk/recipes/swineherds-pie

Heh, wonder when they came up with that name.

Where do we stand on Stargazy pie?

Know what, I'll take that to the pie thread.

Apple Pie please. The other forms of pies are errr a thing to avoid.

I shudder to think of what kind of mystery meat pie the astra militarum could provide during a campaign.

 Fayric wrote:
I shudder to think of what kind of mystery meat pie the astra militarum could provide during a campaign.

Corpse-starch is an established in-universe thing.

Voss wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I shudder to think of what kind of mystery meat pie the astra militarum could provide during a campaign.

Corpse-starch is an established in-universe thing.

It also can’t be the only foodstuff, entropically, or you’d run out of people quite quickly. Plus not every Guardsman is a hiveworlder too busy trying to figure out how they keep such a massive roof dome supported to worry about the food; some of them are from agri-worlds, forest worlds, garden worlds, and regular old Developed Worlds, and so would have at least heard of things like fruit.

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
The only Sheperd's Pie i know is 3 ingredients (and spices)

Mashed Potatoes
Corn
Ground beef

(Steak, blé d'inde, patate, caliss)

Thérèse sort de ce corps!


For me a pie is a dessert (apple pie, maple pie, etc), all this meat talk is confusing

While pie is awesome, it's probably time to wipe off the crumbs and wander back in the general direction of the topic, folks...

 insaniak wrote:
While pie is awesome, it's probably time to wipe off the crumbs and wander back in the general direction of the topic, folks...

Is it permissible to have all future posts contain a pie section and a rumour mill section?

Cause I would both love to talk about the various elements of pies. But also, the pic from the 17th. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/17/the-rumour-engine-17th-october-2023/

Part of me wants to say ork because a rocket sniperrifle is just silly enough for them. But all of it is too smooth, that scope isn't nearly over the top enough to be on an ork gun. Ratlings maybe? It would mix well with the sandbag/pie basing material that started off this pastry prosperity.

Something else I noticed. Does that look like a pistol grip on the bottom? Pistol with a bipod?

It appears to be a foregrip rather than a 'pistol' grip.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It appears to be a foregrip rather than a 'pistol' grip.

Certainly possible and would make more sense. But do foregrips often have what looks to be a trigger guard sorta thing? Does look like there's a bit of metal in front of the fingerholes ya know?

cody.d. wrote:
Certainly possible and would make more sense. But do foregrips often have what looks to be a trigger guard sorta thing? Does look like there's a bit of metal in front of the fingerholes ya know?

I wouldn't think too hard about it. This is a weapon designed by the same company who added rail-systems to bolters yet mounts nothing on them (with scopes sitting on something else entirely further down the gun). It could just as easily be the trigger in an unusual place (trigger on an RPG-7 is well towards the front of the launcher after all).

The bipod makes me think it’s something Imperial. Because it’s a very Imperial bipod.

As a short ranged commando weapon it is silly, but just about plausible.

Unless………….this is the fore grip of a more regular launcher, and we’re not seeing the long tubey bit?

I’ve seen foregrips with triggers but typically it’s for a secondary weapon. Like a single shot grenade underslung on an assault rifle.

Could be an over-the-shoulder type of thing too; that would place the main trigger relatively closer to the muzzle than you’d normally expect.

That launcher gives me steel legion vibes:

(Pic from user Riocordo)

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I shudder to think of what kind of mystery meat pie the astra militarum could provide during a campaign.

Corpse-starch is an established in-universe thing.

It also can’t be the only foodstuff, entropically, or you’d run out of people quite quickly. Plus not every Guardsman is a hiveworlder too busy trying to figure out how they keep such a massive roof dome supported to worry about the food; some of them are from agri-worlds, forest worlds, garden worlds, and regular old Developed Worlds, and so would have at least heard of things like fruit.

....sure?
Fruit exists. That doesn't change anything about cannibalism being an established part of the Imperium of Man.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The bipod makes me think it’s something Imperial. Because it’s a very Imperial bipod.

As a short ranged commando weapon it is silly, but just about plausible.

Unless………….this is the fore grip of a more regular launcher, and we’re not seeing the long tubey bit?

Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.

Just how weirdly this dohicky is mapped does make me think a pistol, and a pair of rocket pistols is a tankbusta staple. And we are overdue a tankbusta kit, possibly it'll be released with the upcoming ork codex? Buuuut, it also has a certain lack of randomly bolted on metal plates to be proper orky.

There is also that Kustom megablastaish barrel we've seen recently. Duel kit would be fantastic. Oh, maybe grot snipers? Them having nicked loot would also explain the food base bit we've seen.

cody.d. wrote:
Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.

Again, overthinking it. GW designers =/= gun designers.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
Hmm, if it was a launcher with the usual tube would the scope not be on the side rather than the top? Otherwise it'll be a struggle to use without putting your torso in backblast zone.

Again, overthinking it. GW designers = gun designers.

Belt fed rocket launchers anyone?