Major-Clanger wrote:
Ufthak Blackhawk from Brutal Kunnin

I love that book, and it would be awesome to have him in plastic!

I wouldn't hate that. It would be nice for the BL model range to expand past the Imperium too.

While that would be cool I think I’d still rather have a new infantry kit, tankbustas or lootas/burnas than just a single character. Both would be best, of course.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
While that would be cool I think I’d still rather have a new infantry kit, tankbustas or lootas/burnas than just a single character. Both would be best, of course.

Ultimately Orks did pretty well in terms of kits out of the last few editions, and Ork players might have to accept an odd character is all they're gonna get this time.

Honestly I wasn’t expecting any new Ork models in 10th. But updated Tankbustas would be nice.

Skin cloak, cloaky skin.

Another Ghoul hero?

Doom divers!

Let's be kind and say it's something dark eldar

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Let's be kind and say it's something dark eldar

Haemonculus has a similar coat, so who knows?

Could also be an ossiarch bonereapers character like this guy for the Dawnbringers campaign?

So how many rumour engines did last weekend's reveals solve?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So how many rumour engines did last weekend's reveals solve?

Counting on Warboss Kurgan's site, just 6:

two for the Babouls, two on Seargeant Stone, and one for the Ghould Ambassador and the Nurgle Horseman. The two Baboul ones were known to us already from the spanish leak.

Terrible stitching on that skin cloak, zero artistry.

Plenty of Warhammer denizens have cloaks of skin so difficult to rule anything out.

A tail do some kind.

Some manner of Lizardman beastie.

Something dinosaur-like just after everything in the Seraphon update has been announced...

Exo....dite?!

Assuming the artist knows what they're doing it's an aquatic reptile.

So could be a seraphon critter or fish elf critter.

Looks less like a scaly skin to me, more like some carapace? Since Sylvaneth already got something I don't think its a bug for them so maybe Idoneth crabs?

 Matrindur wrote:
Looks less like a scaly skin to me, more like some carapace? Since Sylvaneth already got something I don't think its a bug for them so maybe Idoneth crabs?

If it's a close-up of a crab claw, it could be something Slaanesh too.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


A tail do some kind.

At this point wouldn't surprise me if it was some kind of new Necromunda beasty.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Let's be kind and say it's something dark eldar

Haemonculus has a similar coat, so who knows?

It could be mandrakes. The KT teaser video did have some dark eldar looking buildings, and they need a plastic kit and would fit well in KT.

Arm mutation for chaos mega gargant.

It looks like a bonito fish

Tsagualsa wrote:
It looks like a bonito fish

Yeah, was about to say I’ve seen spikes like that on fish before. And we can’t see either end of the piece so it could be a tail missing the fin.
More damp elves? Or are the Fishmen making their triumphant comeback in W: TOW?

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:
It looks like a bonito fish

Yeah, was about to say I’ve seen spikes like that on fish before. And we can’t see either end of the piece so it could be a tail missing the fin.
More damp elves? Or are the Fishmen making their triumphant comeback in W: TOW?

There are some lizards and turtles as well that have similarly scaled tails, so it could be almost anything in that vein too. And it can always be some sci-fi/alien/chaos/weird thing nobody has ever seen before

Maybe it's generic warbeasties for WarCry: Ghur?

More likely, it might be that Idoneth are one of the two Order WarCry warbands coming this year.

We have four Order warbands coming, per the roadmap.

Stormcast, Seraphon, and Daughters of Khaine already have theirs.
That leaves:
-Lumineth
-Idoneth
-Sylvaneth
-Fyreslayers
-Kharadron Overlords
-Cities of Sigmar

Out of all of those?
Lumineth+Idoneth are active in Ghur, as are Fyreslayers and Sylvaneth.

I guess one of these can reasonably be assumed to be Cities of Sigmar, for that sweet sweet tie-in with the army release for AoS and whatever it is that Dawnbringers is supposed to be. But still, Idoneth warband is a likely guess.

I wouldn't actually bet on Cities. A tie-in would dilute the overall Dawnbringers/Freeguild launch I think.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I wouldn't actually bet on Cities. A tie-in would dilute the overall Dawnbringers/Freeguild launch I think.

Ah well, we'll have to see. If it's Idoneth, that seems to match that other recent engine pic with some mist and a tentacle, and possibly also the one with the elvish-looking hand holding some sort of mist bottle or brazier.

Screamer killer alternative arm.

Some beast's tail? Lizardmen?

Teabagging.

Sorry. Sand. Sandbagging

They're stealing my armies on parade concept!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Teabagging.

Sorry. Sand. Sandbagging

I suspect a necromunda weirdo, failing that either a guard or gsc character nobody asked for maybe.

Dudeface wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Teabagging.

Sorry. Sand. Sandbagging

I suspect a necromunda weirdo, failing that either a guard or gsc character nobody asked for maybe.

Another one that's almost comically unspecific, this could be from any of the 40k-adjacent universes/games. Somehow, i get a HH feeling from it, but that might be wrong. My guess is yet another celebratory/special/limited miniature that nobody saw coming, LOV-themed Grombrindal or something like that.

Plastic Death Korps Marshal.

I'm going to guess scenic base for Karandras. Why? Because....It's time

 Theophony wrote:
I'm going to guess scenic base for Karandras. Why? Because....It's time

Aha! Jokes on you.

Plastic Karandras was released in 2004. But he’s so stealthy, nobody noticed and he can’t be seen.

A curious piece. The size of it makes me think a gigantic diorama model like The Something of St. Katherine, but surely the window to include something like that for Guard has closed for the moment?

I think those sandbags look a little too unstable to be piled up like that for a fancy base ornament of something man-sized.

I wonder if one of the new Kill team sets will have a more temporary style of camp/ammo dump as it's terrain.Concrete, sandbags and camo netting kind of thing.

Scenic base of the Perturabo model, smashing the defences of some unimportant planet.

I don’t think it’s for necromunda because sandbags aren’t their kind of thing and the main focus currently is vehicles

 lord_blackfang wrote:
A curious piece. The size of it makes me think a gigantic diorama model like The Something of St. Katherine, but surely the window to include something like that for Guard has closed for the moment?

Maybe, maybe not.

It could always be an additional scenery piece for Guard.

Sandbags? Blasphemy!

Guard battlements should supported by the bodies of dead Cadians and nothing less!

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Scenic base of the Perturabo model, smashing the defences of some unimportant planet.

Why would anyone want a new model of the most boring (Chaos) Primarch in the setting?

 Dysartes wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Scenic base of the Perturabo model, smashing the defences of some unimportant planet.

Why would anyone want a new model of the most boring (Chaos) Primarch in the setting?

A) In plastic.
B) For 40k
c) I quite liked him in HH: Angel Exterminatus, and Siege of Terra -

I'm gonna bet it's Yarrick because these bags give me Armageddon defense lines vibes for some reason

 Dysartes wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Scenic base of the Perturabo model, smashing the defences of some unimportant planet.

Why would anyone want a new model of the most boring (Chaos) Primarch in the setting?

That's not how you spell [insert 5-6 worse Chaos primarchs names here].

I’m hoping it’s some actual terrain for a change.

Next KT set? It’s supposed to go on the world where the fragments of the Hallowdark hulk crashed.

 Irbis wrote:
I'm gonna bet it's Yarrick because these bags give me Armageddon defense lines vibes for some reason

You surely meant his so far unknown daughter, Sebastienne Yarrick

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sandbags? Blasphemy!

Guard battlements should supported by the bodies of dead Cadians and nothing less!

Sorry, but there is a shortage of Dead Cadians as the majority of their bodies blew up when Cadia did , So the new poor grunts have to build with bags of locally sourced dirt. Once supply chains are re-established we will return to using dead "Cadians by the way of Plutark IV" bodies.

 Theophony wrote:
Once supply chains are re-established we will return to using dead "Cadians by the way of Plutark IV" bodies.

That's Platuan IVth, TYVM.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Plastic Death Korps Marshal.

I think Guard "Giant centrepiece/diorama that has rules for some reason" model is a pretty good bet. Perhaps a new version of the DKK Quarter Master and retinue, rather than the Marshal?

 Jadenim wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Plastic Death Korps Marshal.

I think Guard "Giant centrepiece/diorama that has rules for some reason" model is a pretty good bet. Perhaps a new version of the DKK Quarter Master and retinue, rather than the Marshal?

I think if the Quartermaster were coming, it would be as part of a Command Squad rather than a standalone. The Cadian Command Squad, for example, has two "locked" spaces in it for a Master-Vox and a Medic. A Death Korps Command Squad may have an Artillery Coordinator and Quartermaster in lieu of those two.

The Marshal as a standalone is something we already kinda/sorta know is their intention via the FW Compendium update that told you to look at the Castellan for their rules.

New Ratling snipers, because they need a few sandbags to stand on to see over any amount of terrain.

Terrain for the new set of starters

When was the new terrain for 9th first revealed in relation to 9th's reveal?

Why would Space Marines have sandbags to fight Tyranids?

I think there's more than just Marines fighting the 'Nids.

Im suprised people dont realise this is Renegade Guard confirmed!

I guess it could be a new set of Kill Team barricades.

Otherwise it could really be the base for anything 40k wise.

New one

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New one

Something for Lizardmen, i'd say

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New one

Something for Lizardmen, i'd say

Its definitely a tricky one with no particular design features or symbolism.

Half circle, spikes. Clearly a trap for a new Ogre Squigcatcher.

Could be an iron halo for a loyal SM captain.

Does anyone have the 40K roadmap? I can’t remember if it suggested any Chaos book might be early out the gate.

Could be some sort of dastardly double bluff and it's on an Imperial base.

Although, wasn't Chaos and admech immediately after SM and nids?

 Olthannon wrote:
Could be some sort of dastardly double bluff and it's on an Imperial base.

Although, wasn't Chaos and admech immediately after SM and nids?

Admech and necrons.

Chaos SM are after that with a spring 24 release.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Does anyone have the 40K roadmap? I can’t remember if it suggested any Chaos book might be early out the gate.

Spoilered for size:

Could well be CSM then. Outside chance though.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could well be CSM then. Outside chance though.

Don't forget the other Chaos codex coming in spring. No harm in giving them some more models to go with the centerpiece Primarch they recently got.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Could well be CSM then. Outside chance though.

There was a stray chaos marine biker kit that never surfaced, rumored by someone who was, iirc, otherwise almost entirely correct.

That's a weird bit of kit of an Eldar Ranger.

Shame someone had to bring that dead horse of a meme into this thread again, though, Geifer.

 Dysartes wrote:
Shame someone had to bring that dead horse of a meme into this thread again, though, Geifer.

That's your mind speaking. But in your heart you know that horse will never be dead enough.

 Geifer wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Shame someone had to bring that dead horse of a meme into this thread again, though, Geifer.

That's your mind speaking. But in your heart you know that horse will never be dead enough.

Now that GW is actually shining some light on the issue and making definitive statements, do we think that old horse can finally rest?

 Nevelon wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Shame someone had to bring that dead horse of a meme into this thread again, though, Geifer.

That's your mind speaking. But in your heart you know that horse will never be dead enough.

Now that GW is actually shining some light on the issue and making definitive statements, do we think that old horse can finally rest?

It will just turn out that the horse was Cypher all along. And Alpharius. In a costume.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Shame someone had to bring that dead horse of a meme into this thread again, though, Geifer.

That's your mind speaking. But in your heart you know that horse will never be dead enough.

Now that GW is actually shining some light on the issue and making definitive statements, do we think that old horse can finally rest?

It will just turn out that the horse was Cypher all along. And Alpharius. In a costume.

Poor Changeling. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

Looks like a limpet mine on a stick?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Looks like a limpet mine on a stick?

Some sort of explodo-lance, but eeeevil.

Another GSC character

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Another GSC character

I think it's something either Chaos-Knighty, a Warpsmith or some Daemon Engine. It uses the same design cues as some of the Warpsmith gubbins etc.

Absolutely no idea on this one.

Butt end of a spear/halberd/banner.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Another GSC character

I think it's something either Chaos-Knighty, a Warpsmith or some Daemon Engine. It uses the same design cues as some of the Warpsmith gubbins etc.

On a serious note (although we know that GSC really have not enough characters), IMO it looks like Votann tech that could be used by their notpsykers.

i'll say its some sort of electro whip thing

Detonating lance tip

It is from the same model or range as this rumour engine:


Same markings, same fitting (which is very Khainite Shadowstalkers in style). But the explosive device is too futuristic to fit AoS. Wood, crude/pragmatic design, tribal markings, elfish fitting, small runes, elfish blade design: the only group all of these traits fit are Exodites.

 Vovin wrote:
It is from the same model or range as this rumour engine:


Same markings, same fitting (which is very Khainite Shadowstalkers in style). But the explosive device is too futuristic to fit AoS. Wood, crude/pragmatic design, tribal markings, elfish fitting, small runes, elfish blade design: the only group all of these traits fit are Exodites.

What we take for an exploding part could be some sort of 'nock' (the part which links an arrow/bolt to the string of a bow or crossbow) to fire these Spears/Bolts with an up-sigmared take on a Repeating Bolt Thrower.

Tsagualsa wrote:
What we take for an exploding part could be some sort of 'nock' (the part which links an arrow/bolt to the string of a bow or crossbow) to fire these Spears/Bolts with an up-sigmared take on a Repeating Bolt Thrower.

This is also a clever deduction. Seems more plausible than my take. So Khainite Shadowstalkers are back in the race.

It's Kroot!


Not my image, but a great spot!

The bomb looks like a totem, so that would fit. But the the spear tips are decidedly elven in design.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's Kroot!

Spoiler:

Not my image, but a great spot!

Great spot indeed!

There's also that one blade-thing with the Tau caste runes that never was resolved, that everyone thought would be related to Farsight but wasn't:



Both could be well for the models coming with the T'au codex in Spring 2024.

 Vovin wrote:
The bomb looks like a totem, so that would fit. But the the spear tips are decidedly elven in design.

And the runes are on the Kroot we recently got.

Kroot Cavalry is my bet.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kroot Cavalry is my bet.

Knarlocs or maybe even Great one?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kroot Cavalry is my bet.

Knarlocs or maybe even Great one?

Probably the seldomly-mentioned Mid Knarloc

If a man's allowed to dream for a moment, stuff might even point towards a soft launch of Exodites... some of their spears showing up on Kroot is something you can easily justify by the Kroot's mercenary nature, they could have received Exodite-made weapons as either payment or spoils of war (and promptly marked them with their runes)... a first step towards establishing an aesthetic for the Lizardy Boys.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kroot Cavalry is my bet.

Knarlocs or maybe even Great one?

They're all great knarlocs, Brent.

The runes look more like a Incubi/Witchblade crossover than Kroot runes. And the fitting of the tip on the wood is clearly elven and not Tau or Kroot - it is a 100% match with Khainite Shadowstalkers. So I am not convinced that these are Kroot.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's Kroot!

Spoiler:

Not my image, but a great spot!

What are those from? I’m drawing a blank

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's Kroot!

Spoiler:

Not my image, but a great spot!

What are those from? I’m drawing a blank

Farstalker Kindred Killteam. The leader's sword, one of the longrifles stock, and a breastplate.

 Vovin wrote:
The runes look more like a Incubi/Witchblade crossover than Kroot runes. And the fitting of the tip on the wood is clearly elven and not Tau or Kroot - it is a 100% match with Khainite Shadowstalkers. So I am not convinced that these are Kroot.

They're literally on the Kroot Farstalker kit. It's Kroot.

The triangles have a different direction. Kroot: upwards/downwards. Aeldari: in direction of next rune.

edit: Ok, I see it now. It is not written from left to right like on the warband, but from top to bottom.

There is a curve to the "shaft" coming out of the head. I don't think it is meant to be something solid like wood, but instead flexible and mid-swing.

I reckon this is a weapon like a bolus, which would fit with Kroot (and Exodites for that matter, but I'm in favour of the runes matching the Kroot runes).

The most disappointing thing would be just a new Krootox with a bolt thrower and kroot gun option.

It'd be a lot more exciting if it's finally time for a bit more focus on the auxiliary side of Tau forces. Perhaps even with a 'flat bear' Nicassar in the Lord of War slot.

 Tastyfish wrote:
The most disappointing thing would be just a new Krootox with a bolt thrower and kroot gun option.

It'd be a lot more exciting if it's finally time for a bit more focus on the auxiliary side of Tau forces. Perhaps even with a 'flat bear' Nicassar in the Lord of War slot.

They introduced some knight-sized allied species called the Vorgh in the recent past...

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
The most disappointing thing would be just a new Krootox with a bolt thrower and kroot gun option.

It'd be a lot more exciting if it's finally time for a bit more focus on the auxiliary side of Tau forces. Perhaps even with a 'flat bear' Nicassar in the Lord of War slot.

They introduced some knight-sized allied species called the Vorgh in the recent past...

I'm conflicted. On the one hand I want to say that doesn't achieve much until it translates to models. On the other hand, if it's a chance for a big centerpiece model, it might actually make it to plastic. On the other, other hand, we already have giant Tau robots in the Tau army. Do we really need giant not-Tau robots on top of that, especially if one ends up inferior to the other?

Kroot are a nice thought. They actually stand a chance of getting kits and maybe more of an expansion than a single redone metal or resin unit. But I certainly hope at some point GW gets sick of all the Tau robots and goes back to making Tau an alien alliance. I mean, they brought Squats back, so it wouldn't even be the weirdest thing ever.

That all said, the writing doesn't look like what the Kill Team Kroot have to me. The Kill Team models seem very angular while the writing on the arrowheads seems to have more of a swing to it.

We’ve hit a bit of a snag – see, after our experiments with the Rumour Chain last month, our old Rumour Engine is sulking and only showing us things from the very near future. This morning it had the gall to transmit a picture of some disgruntled engineers complaining about a fictional machine on the internet.

While we get this sorted out, here’s an image from the stack we managed to siphon before the Engine got all judgy.

Looks like something scouty?

Warcry maybe

Kroothound cloak

Forgot the context:

We’ve hit a bit of a snag – see, after our experiments with the Rumour Chain last month, our old Rumour Engine is sulking and only showing us things from the very near future. This morning it had the gall to transmit a picture of some disgruntled engineers complaining about a fictional machine on the internet.

While we get this sorted out, here’s an image from the stack we managed to siphon before the Engine got all judgy.

Makes me think it's something for Harbingers?

I'm at a loss though. Maybe it's a quick release of a new Skink ambusher hero, since that's a glaring omission in the book.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Forgot the context:

We’ve hit a bit of a snag – see, after our experiments with the Rumour Chain last month, our old Rumour Engine is sulking and only showing us things from the very near future. This morning it had the gall to transmit a picture of some disgruntled engineers complaining about a fictional machine on the internet.

While we get this sorted out, here’s an image from the stack we managed to siphon before the Engine got all judgy.

Makes me think it's something for Harbingers?

Possible- sometimes the text has no relation to the picture, sometimes it does, and Harbingers is one of the big things that is coming up soon to soon-ish. There are also a lot of weird things they could put in there, and the cloak certainly would not look out of place on e.g. a goblin, or an ogre or whatever.

Giving Kroot; triangular medal thing, bird quill spikes etc.
the arrows are not quite right though.

And kroot?

Ninjed

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Giving Kroot; triangular medal thing, bird quill spikes etc.
the arrows are not quite right though.

Some Squigs, e.g. Mauler Squigs, have similar quills/horns, and that metal tag would not be a bad fit for gobbos.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Giving Kroot; triangular medal thing, bird quill spikes etc.
the arrows are not quite right though.

Some Squigs, e.g. Mauler Squigs, have similar quills/horns, and that metal tag would not be a bad fit for gobbos.

Ah, the legendary KrootSquig!

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Giving Kroot; triangular medal thing, bird quill spikes etc.
the arrows are not quite right though.

Some Squigs, e.g. Mauler Squigs, have similar quills/horns, and that metal tag would not be a bad fit for gobbos.

Ah, the legendary KrootSquig!

Who knows, some of the Chaos Warhounds were spiky boys as well. I still think that's a Kroot skin, but i have no idea who would wear that It's also eminently possible that it's just a random cloak on any random figure, with no deeper thought behind it.

I'm just gonna go ahead and say it's a Chameleon Skink and Kroxigor Warspawned hero combo, with the Kroxigor having a massive bow.

Legendary plains grots huntaz.

There were rumors floating around about a new army/faction coming in 10th edition so it is very possible it’s a standalone Kroot sub faction or Exodites ?

Says Skaven to me...

Those arrows do not look 40k to me, unless it is for a grotty corner like Necromunda.

Even if Exodites were using bows, they would look much sleeker I reckon.

 Haighus wrote:
Those arrows do not look 40k to me, unless it is for a grotty corner like Necromunda.

Even if Exodites were using bows, they would look much sleeker I reckon.

Counterpoint: the triangular metal tag on the cloak is a style element that appears several times on the Kroot Killteam, and they do have two bow-like weapons in that set.

Maybe a remiagining update on the Ratskins gang for Necromunda? Or a specialist unit for Ash Wastes Nomads.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Those arrows do not look 40k to me, unless it is for a grotty corner like Necromunda.

Even if Exodites were using bows, they would look much sleeker I reckon.

Counterpoint: the triangular metal tag on the cloak is a style element that appears several times on the Kroot Killteam, and they do have two bow-like weapons in that set.

I can see Kroot using techno-bows, but those do not look like techno-arrows.

The cloak does look extremely Kroot-y though. As you say, the traingle tag matches very well.

The proportions look strange. Kind of short cloak and/or huge arrows. Looks like a smallish guy having bolts for a boltthrower.

Dont get why kroot would be wearing a kroot cloak, and why they would suddenly use low tech weapons.

Ps: There is at least one skaven asassin with that exact triangle detail, but its such a basic symbol it really dont say a thing.

Yeah. Unlike the previous three pieces that actually tie together, aesthetically, and then have the Kroot details from the literal Kill Team we got...

This one just feels different. From the arrow fletching being fairly primitive to the "cloak" feeling more like a concealment piece than a decorative piece?

Might be Scourge Privateer-themed. They did fold a chunk of the Beastmasters stuff from the Dark Elves into that grouping and have established them as grabbing beasties for the various factions in the Cities of Sigmar.

So does the new Deathleaper solve any of the old REs?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So does the new Deathleaper solve any of the old REs?

As far as I can tell... no. Which is surprising. Had a chance of quite a few misleading parts...

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Doesn’t look very Niddy?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:



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Doesn’t look very Niddy?

It looks like a Squig Squid? Or some sort of sea-creature? You can just spot the beginning of a dotted/mottled pattern on it at the bottom, makes me think it is something alive/organic. Probably unconsequential base chaff on something mostly unrelated.

Some weirdo naked snail? Nurgle or Sylvaneth?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some weirdo naked snail?

....a slug?

 Haighus wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some weirdo naked snail?

....a slug?

You are correct. Found what is a difference in English for both snail and slug.

I'm thinking that the Idoneth are getting a WarCry set.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some weirdo naked snail?

....a slug?

You are correct. Found what is a difference in English for both snail and slug.

No problem I think I have come across the naked snail concept before.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm thinking that the Idoneth are getting a WarCry set.

The weird stalk things as well as the general shape of it somehow makes me think 'Samurai Kabuto', they had weird ones in all manners of stylized shapes:

Regarding the text for the new rumor engine... Wraith construct?

I think it could be a Sylvaneth beetle

It could be a big "meat eating" flower, like a mix of the stranger things monster and piranha plants

I’m going to say… new Necromunda beastie. Either some sort of sludge-beast or one of the weirder plants they have, like a brain-leaf.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Something orky?

Gotta be a giant or ogre of some sort.

First thought was some skaven thing with a chunk of warpstone.

The fastening style is similar to this:



Especially the worn, crossed leather straps.


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 Nevelon wrote:
First thought was some skaven thing with a chunk of warpstone.

I'm thinking ''classic'' style trolls, old-school river trolls had similar weapons (without the stone):



The hammer/mallet above is a classic stone troll/ common troll weapon, and we also have that spider-skull thingy from the older unsolved images, which could be some sort of trophy, armour or banner?

Prophet of Da Gorkamorka!

Mega gargant. I’m waiting on them to release a chaosy variant

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Looks to me like a stilt or something. Anyone also see a foot/shoe in the top left corner?

 Segersgia wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Looks to me like a stilt or something. Anyone also see a foot/shoe in the top left corner?

You have good eyes, that might be very well true! Stilts and similar things have been 'in fashion' lately, just like lite-model-standing-on-brute-model teams, so that might be the direction this is going. Necromunda had some dust-walkers on stilts in pre-concept art shown years ago, maybe it's them? Or some stilted gobbo?

Kind of, but a nail looks to be going through it.

I suspect that’s just the back bit of the wood?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kind of, but a nail looks to be going through it.

I suspect that’s just the back bit of the wood?

Eh, for about half the factions in AOS nailing your shoes to your feet seems like something they'd be down with

I was thinking Bonesplittas first but I don't think they use nails. Also looks a bit small for a gargant? Probably for an ogre.

I dont think anyone would make a stilt out of a rock stalactite and then drive a nail thorough the foot to keep it in place.

The stone trolls, uh, I mean rockgut troggoths, already have a very similar fitting on a club with the same crossed rugged leather straps.

 Fayric wrote:
I dont think anyone would make a stilt out of a rock stalactite and then drive a nail thorough the foot to keep it in place.

The stone trolls, uh, I mean rockgut troggoths, already have a very similar fitting on a club with the same crossed rugged leather straps.

Yeah, i think Trolls or reimagined Trolls is the most likely, that would also be a good explanation for some more weird bits and bobs, the rivertrolls of old had all sorts of rubbish and trinkets on them.

I would love to see some Chaos Trolls, though I don't get that vibe from these rumor engine pics.

All your base.

Looks like a Saturnalia turkey, cooked with the typical accoutrements of frag grenades, molotov cocktails, and pie. The sandbags set up around the firepit are an important part of the tradition, allowing the shrapnel to be captured and kept as good-luck charms.

This will be a Christmas tie-in.

I think we'll be seeing some more Death Korps models soon.

Combat Engineers were mysteriously absent from the FW drop, and the DKoK transfer sheet has minefield warning signs.

Would it be too on the nose if it was the xmas mini for this year?

Death Chefs of Krieg

Plastic ratlings, we all know they are hobbits really.

Ratling Snipers embracing the fantasy halfing/hobbit stereotypes?

Or Genestealer Cultists smuggling weapons in Christmas food crates

Ratling Sniper with Tactical Turkey

Glad I'm not the only one seeing a turkey

 Asmodai wrote:
Ratling Snipers embracing the fantasy halfing/hobbit stereotypes?

They already do a bit, one is literally eating an apple. Most guardsmen have probably never even heard of an apple!

Wine, pie and turkey.

Xmas diorama is a good guess, otherwise ratlings. Those are the only options, really.

It's either Ratlings, or the Middle-earth Hobbits are about to get a serious boost to their killing power.

 Snrub wrote:
It's either Ratlings, or the Middle-earth Hobbits are about to get a serious boost to their killing power.

That moment when Sauron steps forward and hears "click".. priceless

One ring to rule them all, and in the Darkness, a Sniper

Unless Ratlings are going to 32 or 40mm, I don't think this is them. It looks like part of an objective marker or a token.

It's interesting how many sandbags are there.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Unless Ratlings are going to 32 or 40mm, I don't think this is them. It looks like part of an objective marker or a token.

It's interesting how many sandbags are there.

Could be part of a Ratling Kill Team.

Two words for you.

Stumper.

Muckstart.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Unless Ratlings are going to 32 or 40mm, I don't think this is them. It looks like part of an objective marker or a token.

It's interesting how many sandbags are there.

I think it may be part of a large diorama or scenic base together with that other sandbaggy picture we had some weeks ago. Also, either Christmas thingy or Ratlings, not much else would make sense with IG stuff + pie.

I don't know what to make of the "pie", but I do not think it is a delicious dessert.

Might be that there's an incoming Combat Engineers kit, with an ability to "reinforce" scenery to provide some bonuses when IG occupy it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I don't know what to make of the "pie", but I do not think it is a delicious dessert.

Might be that there's an incoming Combat Engineers kit, with an ability to "reinforce" scenery to provide some bonuses when IG occupy it.

There’s definitely a Turkey and wine bottle there. I’m betting it’s a pie as well so it’s likely a holiday diorama

The "turkey" is sandbags in the crate.

I reckon that's the other side to this:


And ratling picnic christmas model certainly seems a good guess.

Tyranids are coming for your holiday meal! Stand fast loyal imperial citizens! The only thing between them and that pie is you and your lasgun. Hold the line!

Maybe some Ratling hero mini diorama. Magogg is long dead at the time of 4th Tyrannic Wars but there could be some other, now famous, one.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Two words for you.

Stumper.

Muckstart.

I actually get this reference! Oh my Primarch, could you imagine if they really went there?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Two words for you.

Stumper.

Muckstart.

That would be amazing.

I’d rather they did a normal squad over a special character, but my money is on Christmas special model.

It's Ratlin' time.

Ok, saw this in another forum:

 Oguhmek wrote:
Ok, saw this in another forum:

Depending on size, dont Rat Ogres need an update?

I didn't see this posted earlier.

Am I imagining things, or does the manticore solve a rumor engine? I think we had a scorpion tail looking pic a few months ago

 GaroRobe wrote:
Am I imagining things, or does the manticore solve a rumor engine? I think we had a scorpion tail looking pic a few months ago

At least going by Warboss Kurgan's list, no: https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#unsolved

We only had that 'fish'tail thing, which the Manticore does not solve.

Troll, judging by proportions?

^ could be.

Could also be Rat Ogre.

Ghouls. There's bone driven through it.

And the fringe possibility, Ogre Gorger

New Crypt Horrors?

Bad case of Tennis Elbow to me!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Ghouls. There's bone driven through it.

FEC bones are A) white, not black, B) usually almost the size of the limb they pierce through, not microscopic in comparison, C) end in obvious epiphysis at least on one side...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
And the fringe possibility, Ogre Gorger

Oooohhhh. Good call! Suitably pallid looking flesh. You may be on to something.

I’ll stick an entire internet away in case you’re proven spot on in future.

Lawks knows it needs doing.

Gorger with a weapon crudely pinned in place of one had, maybe. Or a FEC critter with similar accessory (remember some of the new ones have actual metal weapons now). Not a standard ghoul though; too big.

I thought those were likely arrows of some kind

Or sticks

I don’t think they’re bones tho

I don’t even know anymore.

Flesh Eater Courts?

Looks like something for Warcry.

 Matrindur wrote:
Flesh Eater Courts?

Looks like a Vampire that has been almost destroyed, in the progress of regenerating (the head etc. look like it's still somewhat animate, and the organs could be regrowing) that someone turned into a banner/voodoo doll. So either the enemy of the FEC, or some particular metal FEC that slew a rival vamp and are now feeding on it repeatedly. It's practically vampire-prometheus, only that they're not stopping at the liver.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Flesh Eater Courts?

Looks like a Vampire that has been almost destroyed, in the progress of regenerating (the head etc. look like it's still somewhat animate, and the organs could be regrowing) that someone turned into a banner/voodoo doll. So either the enemy of the FEC, or some particular metal FEC that slew a rival vamp and are now feeding on it repeatedly. It's practically vampire-prometheus, only that they're not stopping at the liver.

That was my thought that it was a vampire which had been seriously hurt but was regenerating and some how being preserved or in the process of regen or something like that .

Sorcerer's vampire on a stick. Why learn necromancy the hard way when you can just wave around a stick and see what happens?

 Geifer wrote:
Sorcerer's vampire on a stick. Why learn necromancy the hard way when you can just wave around a stick and see what happens?

Ushoran-in-a-can.

Ogres maybe? It looks vaguely like a finger with a nail gripping the vampstick at the bottom above the ENG. If it is, then it's a big hand and big hand means big orc or ogre. And ogres like to eat don't they? What would an ogre like more then a replenishing source of meat on hand.

I'm guessing an ogre magic user of some sort. Vampstick probably acts as one part magical focus and one part mid-battle snack.

Thinking scenery.

Id say maybe FEC, but they had some warcry releases already. I was thinking maybe it’s a FEC that’s trying to resurrect a dead vampire by filling his corpse with organs to restart their heart

Honestly FEC have one of the smallest model lines in the whole game. If any faction is going to get a lions share release of loads of new kits its them. Even Fyreslayers get more random kits, even if most of them are just more leaders.


Plus several of the Flesheater kits would count as an update for Soulblight as well. New Zombiedragon/Terrorgast would be a big update for both armies.

 Overread wrote:
Honestly FEC have one of the smallest model lines in the whole game. If any faction is going to get a lions share release of loads of new kits its them. Even Fyreslayers get more random kits, even if most of them are just more leaders.


Plus several of the Flesheater kits would count as an update for Soulblight as well. New Zombiedragon/Terrorgast would be a big update for both armies.

There is rumor that FEC is getting a large range refresh. With them potentially having the Christmas slot I imagine they could get an army box with new kits.

Poor guy died from the heart growing to fill his whole chest cavity

 Eldarsif wrote:
There is rumor that FEC is getting a large range refresh.

Or, rather, a range.

Right now they're 2 and a half kits and a couple of characters. They're not quite Fyrslyrs levels of bad, but they're up there.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Poor guy died from the heart growing to fill his whole chest cavity

…and his heart grew three sizes that day…

Which is not normal or healthy.

It’s an Arch.



But not, y’know. The bad kind.

That's a lot of base real estate that's not having a model standing on it so probably something big that's mostly hovering or leaping.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That's a lot of base real estate that's not having a model standing on it so probably something big that's mostly hovering or leaping.

Or a terrain piece/obstacle set. Doesn't underworlds occasionally have sets of terrain to put on the boards?

Come on Kurnothi!

Kruleboyz as it looks swampy.

I'll throw a bone and say it's something Skaven.

Has anyone gone through previous rumour engines to match them up to the new Nid stuff yet?

 General Kroll wrote:
Has anyone gone through previous rumour engines to match them up to the new Nid stuff yet?

Yeah, IMO nothing there compatible with any new Nids.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
Has anyone gone through previous rumour engines to match them up to the new Nid stuff yet?

Yeah, IMO nothing they’re compatible with any new Nids.

Thanks

Might this be part of the Realmgate Troggoth that TGA is speculating about?

The curving vine/stick looks elven to me.

I retract my earlier statement. Part of the scenic base for Ushoran.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I retract my earlier statement. Part of the scenic base for Ushoran.

Bold guess. Can you state your reasoning?

Quick question: Did the Tyranids preview resolve any open rumour engines?

SKR.HH wrote:
Quick question: Did the Tyranids preview resolve any open rumour engines?

Incredible, but no. FYI, the best rumour engine compilation is Warboss Kurgan's long-running one: https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html

It offers a 'jump to first unsolved' option and is usually updated within hours after a reveal.

Tsagualsa wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
Quick question: Did the Tyranids preview resolve any open rumour engines?

Incredible, but no. FYI, the best rumour engine compilation is Warboss Kurgan's long-running one: https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html

It offers a 'jump to first unsolved' option and is usually updated within hours after a reveal.

Thanks for that... I checked Warboss as well... but couldn't believe that there wasn't a single reveal...

Very strange...

Tsagualsa wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
Quick question: Did the Tyranids preview resolve any open rumour engines?

Incredible, but no. FYI, the best rumour engine compilation is Warboss Kurgan's long-running one: https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html

It offers a 'jump to first unsolved' option and is usually updated within hours after a reveal.

I really want to know when we will finally get the rumour engine from 2021-11-16 resolved

 Matrindur wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
Quick question: Did the Tyranids preview resolve any open rumour engines?

Incredible, but no. FYI, the best rumour engine compilation is Warboss Kurgan's long-running one: https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html

It offers a 'jump to first unsolved' option and is usually updated within hours after a reveal.

I really want to know when we will finally get the rumour engine from 2021-11-16 resolved

Spoiler:

I think the current record-holder is that FEC character that eventually got released as a holiday miniature, if this is something similar (i.e. a single character of no particular import) it can easily be years until it gets out

Given what we know now, could that be from a Votann kit?

 Jadenim wrote:
Given what we know now, could that be from a Votann kit?

I dunno, all those little squares and the circle inside perpendicular lines screams necron to me.

Tzeentch? Ghouls?

AoS but what faction? Vultures? Maybe Ghouls?

Candles on the base- I'd say Ghouls..

Giving more credence to that chunky ghoul release happening in winter.

That would be nice, if only because I swear “FEC getting a big wave of releases” has been a repeated rumour for years at this point ??

Standing on a ruined statue also says ghouls to me. Symbolic of their fall and madness or whatever.

What could be cool is that if this is a Ghoul Character, for the model’s face to have some resemblance to that of the ruined statue.

Nha will be a harpy or other fly beasty.

Mmm. Handy.

Could be Blood Bowl. Could be Genestealer Cults looking at the industrial vambrace?

Vampire team at last!

Does the scale on that seem big to anyone else? Like giant or ogre?

I see where you’re coming from. But we’ve seen ever more impressive detail being added, so could just be a really good macro lens?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I see where you’re coming from. But we’ve seen ever more impressive detail being added, so could just be a really good macro lens?

I’m constantly surprised by the amazing work and detail levels people can get on minis. It would not shock me to see a model end up being a normal 1” scale when I thought that level of detailed highlights were not achievable on that scale.

GW’s painters tend to be pretty consistent though, and those highlights, especially on the nails, do not look normal to my eye.

Yeah definitely looks ogre/giant scaled though I've no idea what for..

Looks like sports gear alright.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I see where you’re coming from. But we’ve seen ever more impressive detail being added, so could just be a really good macro lens?

More like good eyes, a magnifying glass and really steady hands. All things I don't have, so you know that I know what I'm talking about.

If it's just a regular old dude, the painter really put the work in.

A comprise, perhaps? Vampires have been unusually tall of late. Combine that with GW's super buff dudes aesthetic and matching, hammy hands and a "regular" sized sporty vampire may end up a lot easier to get that level of detail on than some poncy elf.

Could be a Star Player or Big Guy for a Vampire team? We’ve seen a pleasing symmetry of Blood Bowl releases lately, with a plastic team followed (sometimes preceded?) by associated Big Guys and Star Players.

It does look pretty big. It's not too bestial, talon wise. Maybe Ogre something or other?

Hmm something about those fingernails, the shape and colour doesn't look normal or natural. Where have I seen fingernails extend or raised up like that before, not sure.

Anyway it's probably something new for one of the niche or specialist games.

I wish it was a Blood Bowl Giant. So yeah I'll just say that.

Ghoulish BB?

The equipment looks too fine for a Giant or Ghoul to me.

I pulled up the picture on my phone and had sit it down, causing me to see the picture upside down, it immediately made me think of the hand jester of most of the 40k sorcerers. Could it be a new chaos hero or a Primaris Psyker for the Astra Militarum army.

 Genoside07 wrote:
I pulled up the picture on my phone and had sit it down, causing me to see the picture upside down, it immediately made me think of the hand jester of most of the 40k sorcerers. Could it be a new chaos hero or a Primaris Psyker for the Astra Militarum army.

Does not look like anything IG, especially with that knuckle duster. Chaos? Maybe but it seems more BB than 40k to me.

It kind of looks like a Kroot hand in layout (almost looks like two opposing thumbs and two fingers) but none of the rest of it screams Kroot to me.

Something about the bracer makes me think Necromunda.

True, it is similar to some of the plastic Hive Scum.

Someone on Facebook suggested Zoats. Do they have double thumbs? It definitely looks like a second thumb on this photo.

Screams Blood Bowl to me.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
Someone on Facebook suggested Zoats. Do they have double thumbs? It definitely looks like a second thumb on this photo.

I am almost positive it is a Zoat hand.
The Archivist model has 4 digits, with a second thumb type configuration.
Look at pics of the pistol hand.

Nah, Zoat hands seem more clawy. And scaly.

Giant team for Blood Bowl. Instead of each figure being on a single base, each limb is based individually and has its own tackle zone.

I wondered Slaanesh blood bowl, but Kill team/necromunda zoat could work as well

I second blood bowl giant. The hand is too big and detailed, plus it has only four digits.

That and the armor looks blood bowly

 GaroRobe wrote:
I second blood bowl giant. The hand is too big and detailed, plus it has only four digits.

That and the armor looks blood bowly

The 'knuckleduster' is a typical BB visual cue, so i'd say BB giant/troll/frankenstein/ogre or something like that. Albion Giants for BB, anyone?

I hope we Will see the Next bb team at gencon. Is there any information about reveals?

Oddly no announcement at all about a GenCon reveal. Not so far as I’ve seen anyways.

 Nevelon wrote:
Does the scale on that seem big to anyone else? Like giant or ogre?

Yes

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oddly no announcement at all about a GenCon reveal. Not so far as I’ve seen anyways.

I don’t think it’s something they do consistently is it?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oddly no announcement at all about a GenCon reveal. Not so far as I’ve seen anyways.

Lets have some hopes.

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Still seems odd there’s no GW Panel, given GenCon is a sizeable event.

I can’t find a Gencon preview from them last year either.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still seems odd there’s no GW Panel, given GenCon is a sizeable event.

Possibly still on 10th ed 40K hype train, with most of their area set up to do demos of that - though interestingly at the GW events side of thing it's very heavily Kill team focused.
Including Action Figure Kill Team, which I don't think I'd seen before as an official event.

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Giant team for Blood Bowl. Instead of each figure being on a single base, each limb is based individually and has its own tackle zone.

By the way this is a great idea, and could be done with creatures like Hydras etc. as well.

Giants made their way into underworlds, so its possible

Guess who also has two thumbs and massive fists - Krootox!

Generally pointy claws though, and I don't think any are armed with knuckle dusters in the Far Stalkers Kinband. The wrist armour/forearm might not be a million miles away from the Cut-Skin's though..

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oddly no announcement at all about a GenCon reveal. Not so far as I’ve seen anyways.

Still expecting it because that's the natural spot to spoil all the 10th marine stuff after Tyranids got a big release a week ago. Perhaps even with dates for the first codex release and models

 Tastyfish wrote:
Guess who also has two thumbs and massive fists - Krootox!

Generally pointy claws though, and I don't think any are armed with knuckle dusters in the Far Stalkers Kinband. The wrist armour/forearm might not be a million miles away from the Cut-Skin's though..

Yes!!!!

 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Oddly no announcement at all about a GenCon reveal. Not so far as I’ve seen anyways.

Still expecting it because that's the natural spot to spoil all the 10th marine stuff after Tyranids got a big release a week ago. Perhaps even with dates for the first codex release and models

Surely it would’ve been announced by now? It’s this weekend.

Base? Scenery? Not immediately recognising the armour.

Looks like Death stuff on a base, has an ancient feel to it.

Feels like WarCry scenery.

The helmet makes me think of the new death rattle skeletons. Is that a plaguebearer skull at the top of the stairs?

Are they coming out of the stone steps or have they been blasted into it?

New terrain for AOS/Warcry?

Ushoran is coming.

That's my bet.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Are they coming out of the stone steps or have they been blasted into it?

If we’re at the bottom of steps looking up? It almost looks as if something has run down from the top to encase them. But that wouldn’t explain the rocky bits.

I love the look of that! Reminds me of the scene were Conan finds his sword in Conan The Barbarian. Feels like a scenic base rather than terrain.

Are we looking up the stairs? Or down the stairs?

I originally thought it was looking down but the placement of the skull at the top of the image makes me think we are looking up

Yeah that’s my thinking too. Very steep and shallow steps though.

 Ohman wrote:
Are we looking up the stairs? Or down the stairs?

Yes. /Eschermode

I'm wondering if the coloured stuff is coming down the stairs in a wave darker coloured (than the stone) cooling something.

If it was hot, I don't think you'd have grass specifically growing next to the skeletons - could it be the return of Aekold Helbrass?

 Tastyfish wrote:
I'm wondering if the coloured stuff is coming down the stairs in a wave darker coloured (than the stone) cooling something.

If it was hot, I don't think you'd have grass specifically growing next to the skeletons - could it be the return of Aekold Helbrass?

It could be that it's acidic troll vomit - it partially digested the armoured dudes, and is melting the stone. We have some background descriptions for a huge troll-like creature in one of the 'Harbingers' stories iirc, and have other stuff that might be related in the rumour engine.

 Tastyfish wrote:
If it was hot, I don't think you'd have grass specifically growing next to the skeletons - could it be the return of Aekold Helbrass?

Don't tease me like that. I just saw him (briefly) in a new Warhammer Total War III trailer today

(Yes, I'm still salty about Aekold being reduced to a severed tongue used as a magic item )

Top of the stairs is the top of the photo I’d say. As the skull there looks to be say on the top step as it were.

Looks like yeah with the grass etc it’s old and the skeletons have been there a long time.

Ghouls, necromancer, marauders?

You mean Cities of Sigmar right or possibly elves, but perhaps not quite as delicate workmanship as they'd make. So yeah I'd settle on that being a fine warhammer held by some knight on foot or horseback or perhaps a unit of armour bashing hammer troops.

Just the kind of weapons a king would make sure his noble warriors had for battle

An elegant weapon from a more civilized age.